Vladimir Putin: New integration project for Eurasia - the future that is born today

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Vladimir Putin: New integration project for Eurasia - the future that is born today


On January 1, 2012, the most important integration project will start - the Single Economic Space of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. A project that is, without exaggeration, historical a milestone not only for our three countries, but for all states in the post-Soviet space.

The path to this milestone was not easy and sometimes winding. It began twenty years ago when, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Commonwealth of Independent States was created. By and large, the model was found that helped preserve the myriad civilizational, spiritual threads that unite our peoples. Save production, economic and other ties, without which it is impossible to imagine our life.

You can evaluate the effectiveness of the CIS in different ways, talk endlessly about its internal problems, about unrealized expectations. But it’s hard to argue with the fact that the Commonwealth remains an indispensable mechanism for bringing together positions and developing a common point of view on the key problems facing our region and brings visible, concrete benefits to all its participants.

Moreover, it was the CIS experience that allowed us to launch multi-level and multi-speed integration in the post-Soviet space, to create such popular formats as the Union State of Russia and Belarus, the Collective Security Treaty Organization, the Eurasian Economic Community, the Customs Union and, finally, the Common Economic Space.

It is characteristic that in the period of the global financial crisis, which forced the states to look for new resources for economic growth, the integration processes received an additional impetus. We objectively approached the idea of ​​seriously modernizing the principles of our partnership, both in the CIS and in other regional associations. And they focused primarily on the development of trade and industrial relations.

In essence, this is about turning integration into an understandable, attractive for citizens and business, a sustainable and long-term project that does not depend on the current political and any other market conditions.

I note that such a task was posed when creating the EurAsEC in 2000. And ultimately, it was the logic of close, mutually beneficial cooperation, understanding of the common strategic interests of Russia that led Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan to the formation of the Customs Union.

1 July 2011 of the year at the internal borders of our three countries was removed control over the movement of goods, which completed the formation of a full-fledged single customs territory with clear prospects for the implementation of the most ambitious business initiatives. Now from the Customs Union we are taking a step towards the Common Economic Space. We are creating a huge market with more than 165 million consumers, with unified legislation, free movement of capital, services and labor.

It is fundamentally important that the SES will be based on concerted actions in key institutional areas - in macroeconomics, in ensuring competition rules, in the field of technical regulations and agricultural subsidies, transport, tariffs of natural monopolies. And then - and on a single visa and migration policy, which will remove the border control at internal borders. That is, to creatively apply the experience of the Schengen agreements, which have become a blessing not only for the Europeans themselves, but also for all who come to work, study or relax in the EU countries.

I will add that now no technical arrangement of the 7 thousand of the Russian-Kazakhstan border will be required. Moreover, qualitatively new conditions are being created for enhancing cross-border cooperation.

For citizens, the removal of migration, border and other barriers, the so-called “labor quotas” will mean the possibility to choose where to live, get an education, work without any restrictions. By the way, in the USSR, with its institute of registration, there was no such freedom.

In addition, we significantly increase the volume of goods for personal consumption, which can be imported duty free, thereby saving people from demeaning checks at customs posts.

Extensive opportunities open up for business. I am talking about new dynamic markets, where uniform standards and requirements for goods and services will apply, and in most cases unified with European ones. This is important, because now we are all moving to modern technical regulations, and a coordinated policy will allow us to avoid technological gaps, the trivial incompatibility of products. Moreover, each of the companies of our countries in any state - member of the SES will actually enjoy all the advantages of domestic producers, including access to government orders and contracts.

Naturally, in order to gain a foothold in such an open market, businesses will have to work on their efficiency, reduce costs, and invest resources in modernization. Consumers will benefit from this.

At the same time, we can talk about the beginning of this “competition of jurisdictions”, about the struggle for the entrepreneur. After all, every Russian, Kazakh, Belarusian businessman gets the right to choose - in which of the three countries does he have to register his company, where to do business, where to engage in customs clearance of goods. This is a serious incentive for national bureaucracies to engage in improving market institutions, administrative procedures, and improving the business and investment climate. In a word, to eliminate those “bottlenecks” and gaps, which have never been reached before, to improve the legislation in accordance with the best world and European practice.

At one time, it took the Europeans 40 years to go from a European coal and steel union to a full-fledged European Union. The formation of the Customs Union and the SES is much more dynamic, since it takes into account the experience of the EU and other regional associations. We see their strengths and weaknesses. And this is our obvious advantage, which allows avoiding mistakes, preventing reproduction of various kinds of bureaucratic overhangs.

We are also in constant contact with the leading business associations of the three countries. We discuss controversial issues, we consider constructive criticism. In particular, the discussion at the Business Forum of the Customs Union, which was held in Moscow in July of this year, was very useful.

I repeat: for us it is very important that the public of our countries, businessmen perceive the integration project not as upper bureaucratic games, but as an absolutely living organism, a good opportunity for the realization of initiatives and success.

So, in the interests of business, it has already been decided to begin the codification of the legal framework of the Customs Union and the SES so that economic actors do not have to make their way through the “forest” of numerous paragraphs, articles and reference norms. Only two basic documents will be enough for them to work - the Customs Code and the Codified Treaty on the Customs Union and the SES.

Since January 1, the EurAsEC Court will also work in full format. Not only the states, but also those involved in economic life will be able to go to court on all the facts related to discrimination, violation of competition rules and equal business conditions.

The principal feature of the Customs Union and the SES is the presence of supranational structures. They also fully include such a basic requirement as minimization of bureaucratic procedures and focus on the real interests of citizens.

In our opinion, the role of the Commission of the Customs Union, which already now has significant powers, should increase. Today there are about forty of them, and in the future - already within the framework of the EEA - there will be more than a hundred. This includes the authority to make a number of decisions on competition policy, on technical regulations, on subsidies. Solving such complex tasks is possible only by creating a full-fledged, permanent structure - compact, professional and efficient. Therefore, Russia has put forward a proposal to create a KTS Collegium with the participation of representatives of the “troika” states, who will work as independent, international officials.

The construction of the Customs Union and the Common Economic Space lays the foundation for the formation in the future of the Eurasian Economic Union. At the same time, there will be a gradual expansion of the circle of participants in the Customs Union and the SES due to the full involvement of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.

We do not dwell on this and set ourselves an ambitious task: reach the next, higher level of integration - the Eurasian Union.

How do we see the prospects and contours of this project?

Firstly, it is not a question of re-creating the USSR in one form or another. It is naive to try to restore or copy what is already left in the past, but close integration on a new value, political, economic basis is the imperative of the time.

We propose a model of a powerful supranational association capable of becoming one of the poles of the modern world and at the same time playing the role of an effective “link” between Europe and the dynamic Asia-Pacific region. This means, among other things, that on the basis of the Customs Union and the SES, it is necessary to move to closer coordination of economic and monetary policy, to create a full-fledged economic union.

The addition of natural resources, capital, strong human potential will allow the Eurasian Union to be competitive in the industrial and technological race, in competition for investors, for the creation of new jobs and advanced production. And along with other key players and regional structures - such as the EU, the USA, China, APEC - to ensure the sustainability of global development.

Secondly, the Eurasian Union will serve as a kind of center for further integration processes. That is, it will be formed by the gradual merging of existing structures - the Customs Union, the Common Economic Space.

Third, it would be a mistake to oppose the Eurasian Union and the Commonwealth of Independent States. Each of these structures has its place and its role in the post-Soviet space. Russia, together with its partners, intends to actively work on improving the institutions of the Commonwealth, saturating its practical agenda.

In particular, we are talking about the launch of specific, understandable, attractive initiatives and joint programs in the CIS. For example, in the field of energy, transport, high technology, social development. There are great prospects for humanitarian cooperation in science, culture, education, cooperation in the regulation of labor markets, and the creation of a civilized environment for labor migration. We inherited a large legacy from the Soviet Union - this is the infrastructure, the existing production specialization, and the common linguistic, scientific and cultural space. Sharing this resource for development is in our common interest.

In addition, I am convinced that the most liberalized trade regime should become the economic basis of the Commonwealth. At the initiative of Russia, as part of its chairmanship in the CIS in 2010, a draft of a new Free Trade Zone Agreement was prepared, based, by the way, on the principles of the World Trade Organization and aimed at the full-scale removal of various barriers. We count on serious progress in the coordination of positions on the Treaty during the next meeting of the Council of the CIS Heads of Government, which will take place very soon - in October of 2011.

Fourth, the Eurasian Union is an open project. We welcome the accession of other partners, above all the countries of the Commonwealth. At the same time, we are not going to rush or nudge anyone. This should be a sovereign decision of the state, dictated by its own long-term national interests.

Here I would like to touch on one, in my opinion, a very important topic. Some of our neighbors explain their reluctance to participate in advanced integration projects in the post-Soviet space by the fact that this is allegedly contrary to their European choice.

I think this is a false fork. We are not going to shut ourselves off from anyone and oppose anyone. The Eurasian Union will be built on universal integration principles as an integral part of a Greater Europe united by common values ​​of freedom, democracy and market laws.

Back in 2003, Russia and the EU agreed to form a common economic space, coordinate the rules of economic activity without creating supranational structures. In the development of this idea, we suggested that the Europeans together think about creating a harmonious community of economies from Lisbon to Vladivostok, about a free trade zone and even more advanced forms of integration. Forming a coherent policy in the field of industry, technology, energy, education and science. And, finally, on the removal of visa barriers. These proposals are not hanging in the air - they are discussed in detail by their European colleagues.

Now the Customs and, in the future, the Eurasian Union will become a participant in the dialogue with the EU. Thus, entering into the Eurasian Union, in addition to direct economic benefits, will allow each of its members to integrate into Europe more quickly and in stronger positions.

In addition, an economically logical and balanced partnership system of the Eurasian Union and the EU can create real conditions for changing the geopolitical and geo-economic configuration of the entire continent and would have an undoubted positive global effect.

Today it is obvious that the global crisis that broke out in 2008 was structural in nature. We still see his acute relapses. The root of the problems is in the accumulated global imbalances. It is very difficult to develop post-crisis models of global development. For example, the Doha Round has practically stalled, there are objective difficulties inside the WTO as well, the very principle of free trade and open markets is experiencing a serious crisis.

In our opinion, the solution can be the development of common approaches, as they say, “from below”. First - within the existing regional structures - the EU, NAFTA, APEC, ASEAN and others, and then - through a dialogue between them. It is from such integration “bricks” that the more stable nature of the world economy can emerge.

For example, the two largest associations of our continent - the European Union and the emerging Eurasian Union - based their interaction on the rules of free trade and compatibility of regulatory systems, objectively, including through relations with third countries and regional structures, are able to extend these principles to the whole space - from the Atlantic to the Pacific. On the space that will be harmonious in its economic nature, but polycentric in terms of specific mechanisms and management decisions. Then it will be logical to start a constructive dialogue about the principles of interaction with the states of the Asia-Pacific Region, North America and other regions.

In this regard, I note that the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan has already started negotiations on the creation of a free trade zone with the European Free Trade Association. The agenda of the APEC forum, which will be held in Vladivostok in a year, will occupy an important place in the themes of trade liberalization and the removal of barriers to economic cooperation. Moreover, Russia will promote a common, coordinated position of all participants in the Customs Union and the SES.

Thus, our integration project reaches a qualitatively new level, opens up broad prospects for economic development, and creates additional competitive advantages. Such a combination of efforts will allow us not only to fit into the global economy and trade system, but also to actually participate in the process of developing solutions that set the rules of the game and determine the contours of the future.

I am convinced that the creation of the Eurasian Union, effective integration is the path that will allow its participants to take a worthy place in the complex world of the 21st century. Only together can our countries be among the leaders of global growth and civilizational progress, to achieve success and prosperity.
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  1. Motherland
    +1
    4 October 2011 19: 42
    As you hear such speeches, I want to be present there and shout at the top of our tongue!
    1. Ivan35
      +7
      4 October 2011 20: 29
      But I think it’s necessary to unite — and right now — without waiting for the Communist Party to come to power
      External enemies do not wait - and a weak Russia will always be the target of attacks, will not be able to protect its interests even in the Arctic, even in Syria, and so on. Will be forced to make concessions to both pendos and Turks and China

      The unification of the 3 republics and their military - economic potential creates opportunities to speak with opponents from a stronger position

      If we can strengthen the position of the communists, then this still "capitalist" alliance can turn into the USSR-2

      So much has been invested in Kazakhstan - and labor and resources - how can we lose all of this! Give China? Or the Islamists? Moreover, in recent years, this republic has independently been able to explore vast reserves of oil and increase production from old fields. And the Russians who live here? Russia cannot leave them. I am constantly writing about Kazakhs - most of them are sympathetic to both Russians and Russia - and support the idea of ​​reunification. No - we don’t need any separate region of Kazakhstan - only reunion with the whole republic!

      Belarus has always been a part of Russia - even a conversation cannot be that we will be "independent" states - we must continue to move along the path of integration - the next step is a common currency and the Eurasian Union -

      You have to understand that there are many opponents of this process - Pendosy, Saxons, China, neighbors like the Turks of the Baltic Poles of Georgia, etc., plus internal enemies - the Nazis (whom they generally planted in the USSR - and Stalin put them to the wall in general) There will be provocations necessarily - comrades - do not give in !!
      1. zczczc
        +8
        4 October 2011 21: 07
        Ivan35, absolutely agree!
        But two corrections:
        1. The Poles will come running when we get to our feet. Mark my word :) They will come running and apologize - they themselves will remember everything point by point, they will decompose everything and apologize. This will happen when we become stronger in Europe in spirit;
        2. Of the existing forces, only the Communists will be able to stop the banal theft of everything and everything. The rest will only pretend.
        1. Marat
          +5
          4 October 2011 22: 05
          1. And not only Poles - if the new union is successful and its model and principles are attractive - then many "smaller" neighbors will enter the "zone" of economic and cultural influence -

          2. I agree - only the communists reflect the interests of the people (all 3 republics) - and to bring the Communist Party to power is the second task after unification. Without them, it would be a variant of Tsarist Russia - nothing too - but there is a lack of social justice and economic efficiency in our climate and geography. Climate and geography "doom" us to variants of the "Soviet Stalinist model"
          1. zczczc
            +2
            6 October 2011 10: 14
            Marat, everyone who came himself is valuable regardless of other characteristics.
        2. Tyumen
          -3
          4 October 2011 22: 07
          You are naive. What the Communists, what edros, one oiled world. The top for the outside world, the opposition for the people. And stop listening to Zyuganov.
          1. mind1954
            -1
            5 October 2011 06: 10
            Explain, explain .... ?? !!
            As my grandmother used to say: "At least a stake on your head, or
            Like peas against the wall! "
            Well, you can’t insert your brains ....

            PS Well, what a mania, flattery in politics is not a damn thing in it
            not understanding and not wanting to understand.
          2. 0
            5 October 2011 09: 08
            Tyumenets, - no offense, I read your comment and remembered the anecdote, the last phrase: ... Everything around is in go-no, and I'm in a tailcoat ... " winked
            1. Tyumen
              0
              5 October 2011 21: 15
              Yes, I do not mind, laugh, what insults? Everything just goes like this, that I don’t believe in either of these.
          3. 0
            6 November 2011 13: 00
            not meant Zyuganov or edro-meaning communist ideology
        3. 0
          5 October 2011 09: 33
          ZCZCZC, I have already briefly mentioned honest communists in my comments .. I would like to say: "Shura! If you love pasta on your ears, then do not persuade your opponents to do it!". I know this pack not by hearsay, but all the "principled guardians of the people" who "stand at the head" are from there. It's useless for me to dissuade you (I THINK ... "), just as you are young and GARACH, but these orthodox people, who, according to the spirit of the times," only combed their hair, "can really teach a lot; and, like millions, collected during the CHARITABLE ALL-UNION CHILDREN'S TELEMARATHON, successfully pilfer on business trips abroad, how to take party grandmothers without documents over the hill and place them on personal accounts, how to humiliate their people, so that they do not think of themselves as a PEOPLE - THE REFUGEER OF HISTORY. as always - "they react reactively to the news of the day -" We will make everyone happy and in a couple of three decades we will all live under communism! " fellow
          1. zczczc
            0
            6 October 2011 10: 16
            esaulI said half honest. Compare with EP :)))
      2. mind1954
        -3
        5 October 2011 06: 04
        Please understand that our enemies, first of all,
        domestic! Do you think that we should unite sooner
        to repel an external enemy.
        And this audience has only one goal - a market for raw materials. And that’s it!
        And so that inside there is no production, no workers,
        engineers, scientists and, in general, educated people.
        In them THEIR hosts see a deadly threat to their thieves and
        treacherous power!
  2. escobar
    +6
    4 October 2011 20: 57
    It’s a pity that the leaders of the Ukraine are talking to us ... But most of the population is for integration with Russia. They are clogging the tanks with European integration - they need us as a second Greece ...
    zuka ...
    1. Marat
      +8
      4 October 2011 22: 19
      It seems to me that this "split" is a temporary concept - on a historical scale, 20 years mean nothing. And for thousands of years the peoples of Eurasia have always united into one strong centralized state

      Anyway, Ukraine will come to both the CU and the CES and the future Eurasian Union - it will be beneficial for the people of Ukraine - the Union is a huge market for the Ukrainian industry and the availability of raw materials and energy, historical and cultural unity of the population - all this will inevitably bring us together

      With Ukraine, the Union will acquire "full strength" - it will be an equal state to the USSR - which will be able to throw off the yoke and become FREE
      1. Tyumen
        0
        5 October 2011 19: 58
        What yoke will Ukraine throw off from the European Union? Stupid, they deflate and abandon Ukraine. In addition to raw materials and energy, they do not need anything from you. Yes and no you have nothing. They squabble for markets among themselves, crush quotas, and here Ukraine. What do you have? Soviet junk with new prodigies? Ukraine is in the ass, and no way out. Both in the CU and in the EU? Do you know what happens to those who try to sit on two chairs?
        1. Marat
          +1
          5 October 2011 20: 30
          Tyumen35
          Read the comment carefully

          What does the EU have to do with it?

          In my opinion, it is clear that the Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan will acquire "full" force only upon reunification with Ukraine. And Ukraine needs our energy carriers and raw materials - and our sales market for its industry - and in Europe its industry and goods are not needed by anyone - Ukraine is waiting for the fate of the Balts there - competitors are not needed - the whole industry has stopped
          1. Tyumen
            0
            5 October 2011 21: 04
            Your * Eurasian Union * I understood how the European Union. If I offended, I apologize. It's just that they often write in such a syllable that it is generally difficult to understand what they wanted to say.
      2. 0
        7 October 2011 19: 32
        Your words, Maratisch, Yes to God’s ears ...
  3. Aleksey42
    +6
    4 October 2011 21: 02
    What to say! Let your words be to God’s ears! I agree that the reunification of the republics is possible only on a mutually beneficial basis. both economic and political. But with these serious problems are possible. After all, who wants to share power? I don’t know how in Kazakhstan and Belarus, look at our corruption, what equal rights can exist for business in different countries? The union of Russia and Belarus essentially remained on paper. In general, it would be great! Just do not want, after many years, Russia again accused of occupation and other outrages.
    And I hope this is not just an election campaign.
    1. 0
      5 October 2011 09: 42
      Alexey 42, thank you for the comment and for the position. It was nice to read and make sure that another sober person became more on the horizon! Marat, hello buddy! Although not in everything with you, sometimes I agree, but I always look for your comments winked
      1. Marat
        +2
        5 October 2011 20: 04
        Mutually Yesaul! Always glad to hear from you on the site. We do not have to be 100% in agreement in all details to mutually respect each other's positions. It seems to me that in the main we are united.

        Regarding the Communists, I don’t have the illusion of specific characters and everyone understands that they get money from the oligarchs as well - after all, it is necessary to survive in this reality - they exploit the nostalgia of people for the USSR in their interests and attribute its advantages to themselves

        I just want to say that I do not support the functionaries of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation — but their idea — their platform — that is, by strengthening their positions, we will shift power towards the redistribution of income from oligarchs to the people — to the needs of the state and defense social networks. And if they come to power, they will simply be obliged to implement their declarations - and in their declarations everything is correct
        1. Tyumen
          0
          5 October 2011 20: 41
          Everything is correct in the declarations of United Russia, but where is the result?
          And Zyuganov will also declare something to you, he is a professional in this matter.
          In 96g the Communist Party won, but Zyuganov refused the presidency. And why would he do this, because he will have to work, and not wag his tongue. He worked near Yakovlev, being a deputy head. ideological department of the Central Committee, and that says a lot. Whoever believes him is pensioners and a naive like you.
          1. Aleksey42
            +2
            6 October 2011 11: 55
            Personally, I do not have any illusions. Every nation deserves its ruler. Understand one thing: if we continue to walk in line and vote for the ruling elite, then they will definitely not deign to think about you and me. Only a real opportunity to break away from the feeder can be a deterrent. Personally, I voted for Medvedev. What I regret now, but I can’t return the time. I was also embarrassed by the word Communist (apparently, he was still young and green). Now I look at this from the other side: if not the Communist Party, then who? Well, not a bunch of licking under the name EdRo. Believe me, if only Putin leaves the political arena, this horde will immediately go over to anyone, just to get closer to the authorities. Yes, he will also throw tomatoes at his former idol!
            1. Ivan35
              +1
              6 October 2011 18: 08
              I will support you - I agree - the main injustice, after all, in the seizure of national property by the oligarchs - and after all, the bastards did not take the "post office" - but oil and gas - the Bratsk hydroelectric power station - cheap aluminum, etc. will do no good
              And Putin (with all due respect to him and with all his achievements) will not be able to cope with this on his own - since he is engaged by them
              The only way to strengthen the future empire where several republics of the former USSR will be reunited - the only way is to strengthen the power of the people - to "move" the oligarchs - that only communists can
            2. 0
              7 October 2011 20: 34
              Lyokha! Many people here agree with you, but personally I cannot agree with the fact that the rulers do not think about us. Guys, where do you live? On Mars? Or on the couch with Dill and Cupcake? Why don't you see changes for the better? Nobody will give you a golden toilet bowl as soon as he is on the TOP! But, both Putin and Medvedev are pulling and pulling the country out of the shit in which its predecessors drowned it before. Yes, the lads cut the attendants in the 90s! Yes, the stinking bug grabbed a common "property"! But who is going to tell me how the "common commons" should make everyone happy, so that everyone is happy with it? Under socialism it was disgustingly simple: my uncle collected and SHARED! And he divided - as his left leg wanted him on the day of the division! It is clear that the uncle is "united and progressive"! Now this is done by slightly different mechanisms. If it had not been done, we would not have sat and clapped on the keyboard, enjoying our free-thinking! Under the communists, the most courageous thing was to gossip in the kitchen, among our own people. Why don't you want to see the "maternity capital" that you never dreamed of at the commies? Why don't you want to see "gosuslugi.ru"? Why don't you want to see stores filled with everything that you habitually buy, thinking that it has always been this way? Finally, why don't you see grannies buying sugar, cereals, etc. for the settlement? in the days of the crisis? But because the "evil Medvedputs" run the country! Will accept the new and positive - until w-py! The one who lived under "DEVELOPED" can compare. As for EdRo - there is shit everywhere, but laws are adopted and evolve (if you wish, let them read it!) In favor of people! And let the "TANDEM" continue to shuffle the "members" because there is no sufficiently weighty alternative to them in this period! UV! Tired of saying obvious things! Warm greetings to all of you, esaul!
              1. Aleksey42
                +1
                10 October 2011 17: 50
                Esaul, I really hope that you are right. There are economic shifts for the better, I admit it. And the Olympics, and the World Cup in football, and finally the money went to the army. Personally, I am not in poverty. But it's a shame when my classmate died in the mine for 12 thousand a month. It hurts to tears. And it seems like you can say it's your own fault, look for a better job, but only where to find it for a simple honest guy, as they say "from the plow" in a small mining town. It's strange when "black diggers" appear all over the area, these are such illegal angle mini-cuts. It's not a trifle to pick on your pockets. It's a shame when I hear about the salary of teachers in my daughter's garden. And these are generally holy people, docha naturally loves her teacher, and Yuedi, they are sensitive to deception, if you don't put your soul into them, they will immediately understand what's what. It's a shame that the skating rink is paid! And above the entrance there is a banner "United Russia for a Healthy Nation". Why, tell me, is education reform needed? Unified State Exam? All the familiar teachers are shocked. Why can owners of indulgences in the form of flashing lights kill citizens of our Motherland with impunity? Why, after all, should we buy the worst gasoline in EUROPE AT CLOUD PRICES? How did the videos in the Barkov case disappear? I am not saying that the Soviet System was perfect. It was necessary to make adjustments, but not to destroy it to the ground. The Chinese turned out to be wiser than us.
        2. +1
          7 October 2011 19: 50
          Marat! Very WAY reasoning! In the struggle of opposites is born ... Something worthwhile, but it should work! wink
      2. Aleksey42
        +2
        6 October 2011 11: 48
        Thank you, Esaul, for your support. Hopefully, with joint efforts, the truth will speak.
        1. 0
          7 October 2011 19: 44
          Guys, how do you like this version: Mr. Putin is not biased by the oligarchy, but uses it? A hedgehog it is clear that an overwhelming mass of money is concentrated in the hands of moneybags and it is NOT rational to fold all of them at once! It would be more reasonable to use their financial potential, but will a separate, who imagines, burrow into the nail? feel an example? Yukos!
          1. Marat
            +1
            8 October 2011 01: 40
            God knows! Not sure of anything here. On the one hand (as I wrote in many of my comments), yes - Putin almost a chavez - a communist - nationalized the main cash flows - dismissed the oligarchs and sent money to the state and people - creating many state corporations
            As a result, a stabilization fund appeared (earlier these devils plundered it) and external debts were paid. And the collapse of Russia was stopped and even the new Union unites with us and Belarusians - well, well done on one side

            But on the other, I look at the fact that most of the oligarchs still remained - and they own what they built the whole USSR for decades - and they also have a huge influence - they buy who they want - they breed all corruption - the fish is from the head of that ...
            Even if Putin and “our man” are among the bourgeoisie, then we will not spoil anything by voting for the Communist Party - on the contrary, we will help him implement a more correct policy - at least we will shift the vector

            And I do not support anti-state attacks against the power of the army of equipment (even the Foreign Ministry recently criticized everything amicably) - it seems to me that we are playing into the hands of external enemies - we need to criticize the authorities constructively - and vote correctly - and convince people - and not call them "to the barricades."
            1. +1
              8 October 2011 10: 50
              Marat, you think so sensibly, buddy! As for the oligarchs in the localities, then, after all, not under Putin at the helm, they made their fortunes, became "heavyweights." Just like that - "take and cancel" is not fraught with stability, but we need it? More pragmatically, these capitals, through laws, regulations, emerging situations and (if necessary!) Direct pressure (as in the case of Abramovich's donations to the Sochi Olympics), force them to work for the country. Luzhkov) to get rid of under the most unexpected pretext. To lead SUCH country in SUCH period - it is necessary to be a leader with a stitch and to do business in spite of the buckets of shit that are splashed in your direction. And yet - he who does not do anything is not mistaken! And I really like your last paragraph! Hello!
              1. Aleksey42
                +1
                10 October 2011 18: 00
                I also liked Marat's idea of ​​barricades. In Russia, during the turmoil, such shit climbs like EBNa, that then you will wash off the hell. That is why I am in favor of a strong opposition, so that the authorities are always "in good shape". I squinted a little, and in the next elections you can fly past the box office. By the way, Lukzhkov was very strange, they were obviously afraid that he would not talk too much. And the wording is kind of vague.
          2. Aleksey42
            +1
            10 October 2011 17: 54
            I think we will not learn the truth soon. If ever we find out. The trouble is that now you can easily drown in a sea of ​​information. To filter it you need to be specialist in a wide variety of fields. Or a free independent press. But this is utopia, as recent events show, it is simply not left in the world. By the way, regarding Yukos, look at whose hands were its assets. If I don’t confuse, then this is Abramovich, a friend and ally of Putin, which is somewhat confusing.
  4. svvaulsh
    0
    4 October 2011 21: 05
    I do not want the future with the current leadership!
  5. escobar
    0
    4 October 2011 21: 08
    Although our Yanyk got the upper hand thanks to the promise of rapprochement with Russia ... Kuchma that fox sly licked everyone, but then tastes changed dramatically. Although all of us are puppets in the hedgehogs of aligarchs and Pindos
    1. svvaulsh
      0
      4 October 2011 21: 30
      Yes, and we have not fled far sad
  6. +1
    4 October 2011 21: 43
    But what about fascists? In all the former Soviet republics, they bred.
    1. zczczc
      +1
      4 October 2011 22: 51
      Nick, no way - 99% of them will repaint themselves. And another 1% will feel in a vacuum and will bashfully remove the swastikas on the body.
  7. piwnik22rus
    -3
    4 October 2011 21: 50
    And the one that I finished in the photo is responsible. He threw a pancake to some GRU officers, that is, Kadyrov was torn to pieces by Czechs

    And in general, these Medveputki got it. When will the people rise? I’ll immediately go just give a cry.
    1. Tyumen
      0
      4 October 2011 22: 10
      What, a beerman, did he watch TV with a hangover?
    2. escobar
      +2
      4 October 2011 22: 23
      Soon Pindos will give everyone a cry, Africa example
  8. merkawa
    0
    4 October 2011 23: 11
    All these integrations until the next change of scenery (current power holders)
  9. nickname bj
    +1
    4 October 2011 23: 40
    In fact, acquaintances say that in Kazakhstan the standard of living is higher than in Russia. From this point of view, unification with Kazakhstan personally is to my advantage.
    1. Aleksey42
      +2
      10 October 2011 18: 03
      Kazakhstan is big, Russia too. Everywhere live differently. It is foolish to compare the village of Gadiukino with Astana. The fact is that being together we will definitely win in many positions, this is the main thing!
  10. Don
    +2
    6 October 2011 10: 14
    Let's hope that Ukraine will soon join this Union.

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