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Azerbaijan at a dead end: devaluation, failure of TANAP and recognition of the Armenian Genocide

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Azerbaijan at a dead end: devaluation, failure of TANAP and recognition of the Armenian Genocide


Misfortunes never come alone

Azerbaijan is going through one of the most difficult stages in its newest stories. It all started when the Central Bank made 21 in February devaluation of manat by 35,5%, setting the official exchange rate of the national currency at 1,05 manat for $ 1, instead of the former rate in 0,78 manat for $ 1. The drama of the situation was that several days before that, President Ilham Aliyev loudly assured all citizens that no devaluation was planned. Three days after the devaluation, the president called this step deliberate and necessary, which for many has become monstrous. Overnight, depositors of Azerbaijani banks lost $ 1 billion. The average monthly salary was officially announced 442 manat ($ 560), and then became equal to $ 420. 30% has devalued pensions, salaries and scholarships.

Moreover, since the beginning of 2015, the currency reserves of the Central Bank have decreased by $ 4,29 billion (31,2%) and as of March 31 amounted to $ 9,47 billion, reports Trend. Local experts believe that if the Central Bank’s participation in strengthening the national currency continues at this pace, by the end of 2015, all its reserves may be exhausted. But this is only one side of the coin. The other side is that the gold and foreign exchange reserves of Azerbaijan, which, according to some data, amount to $ 50 billion, are mainly stored in Western banks. And now, under various pretexts, they refuse to give them to Azerbaijan. This gives grounds for some experts to assume that the West is preparing a “monetary revolution” in Azerbaijan, meaning that all this can lead to a social explosion throughout the country, where, according to the politician Erkin Gedirli, “power from top to bottom is based on financial support ". “There is no ideology, rule of law, judicial authority as such. The only thing on which loyalty of citizens rests is money. The government has won over all these years the loyalty of citizens. Now, when money becomes less, it is difficult to continue in this spirit, and over the years it will become impossible in general, ”Gadirli believes.

Overnight, the authorities' myth about the “analogous development” of Azerbaijan collapsed. In recent months, I remember a number of I. Aliyev’s trips to European countries, where he, having “the greatest number of gas trumps” amid deteriorating relations between the West and Russia, tirelessly assured everyone that “Azerbaijan is able to become the only alternative for Europe to provide gas ". At the same time, the Azerbaijani side verbally, although it asserted that Baku is not going to compete with Moscow in this direction, in fact, on the sly, did everything to ensure that Europe chooses the Azerbaijani TANAP pipeline, and not the South Stream gas pipeline. Recall that the supply of TANAP (project cost - $ 10-11 billion) at the first stage will be 16 billion cubic meters, of which 10 billion is intended for Europe, and 6 billion - for Turkey. In the future, it is possible to increase the capacity of the pipe to 31 billion cubic meters. Commissioning of the gas pipeline is scheduled for the middle of 2018, and after the completion of the construction of the Trans-Adriatic Gas Pipeline (TAP), approximately at the beginning of 2020, gas will also be supplied to Europe. According to the partnership agreement signed by 13 in March, 58% share in the consortium belongs to SOCAR (Azerbaijan), 30% Turkish “Botash” and 12% British BP. It was assumed that, for the first time, only Azerbaijani gas would be pumped through TANAP, but at the same time the issue of Turkmenistan’s participation in it, and even, according to some Baku media, Iran was discussed. On March 17, a solemn TANAP groundbreaking ceremony was held in Kars, Turkey with the participation of the heads of Azerbaijan, Georgia and Turkey.

After that, not entirely clear things happened that made the experts change their views on the TANAP perspective. The first blow came from the Turkish Minister Taner Yildiz, who said that "in the case of a profitable commercial offer, Turkey may sell shares in the TANAP project." Note that this statement was made two days after the visit of Turkish President Recep Erdogan to Tehran. It forced some observers to speak about a new strategic energy alliance of Russia, Turkey and Iran. Such opinions were further strengthened after the signing of the well-known agreement of the “six” with Iran in Lausanne, and the subsequent decision of Vladimir Putin to lift the ban on the supply of the C-300 missile system to Iran. Against the background of the changing priorities of Turkey in the choice of partners and the deepening economic and financial crisis in Azerbaijan itself, some Baku analysts have already begun to doubt that I. Aliyev will achieve his goal in this direction. Especially since the country's poorly depleted budget is unlikely to withstand such a burden. And some in Baku, at last, recalled that the “brotherly” “Muslim people” lived in Iran.

As they say, trouble never comes alone. Following this, events occurred that literally put all of Azerbaijani society into an apocalyptic shock. Recall that April 12 held a traditional mass in memory of Christians who became victims of the genocide in the Ottoman Empire in the period from 1915 to 1923 in the Vatican. In his speech, Pope Francis assessed these events not only as the Armenian genocide, but also the genocide of all Christians - both Orthodox and Catholics. In addition to 1,5 million Armenians, in those years almost 1,4 million Greeks, 800 thousand Assyrians, 500 thousand Yezidis and 200 thousand Molokans were killed. At the same time, the liturgy itself took place according to the so-called “Armenian rite”, where the highest hierarchs of the Armenian church were present. And on April 15, the European Parliament (EP) adopted a resolution stating that "the tragic events that took place in 1915-1917 against Armenians in the territory of the Ottoman Empire are genocide." The resolution calls on Turkey "to use the commemorative events on the occasion of the centenary of the Armenian Genocide, to reconcile with its past, recognize the Armenian Genocide and thus, pave the way for genuine reconciliation between the Turkish and Armenian peoples."

Turkey’s reaction to these events was harsh, which in some sense is even understandable. But what is happening in this connection in Azerbaijan is an obvious stir. All socio-political forces of the country, ranging from members of parliament to opposition politicians and analysts, turned against the Pope of Rome and the European Parliament. As if having forgotten how enthusiastically the recent visit of I. Aliyev to the Vatican was received in Baku, during which the importance of various cultural projects implemented by the G. Aliyev Foundation was emphasized. All fell on the pontiff. He was accused of being a "descendant of criminal conquistadors," and the president was reminded of the restored Vatican catacombs, of the expensive gifts that were presented to Francis. As for the EP resolution, MP Ganira Pashayeva said that this decision, "based on lies, will never be taken by any Turk." According to her, "the whole Turkish world must rebel against this slander."

All this you can write for a long time that is not included in the plans of the author. The leadership of Azerbaijan has not been able to develop a more or less correct strategy in the matter of choosing allies, to create a coherent foreign policy platform. The country is at an impasse.
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  1. Begemot
    Begemot April 21 2015 15: 07
    +13
    It is not surprising that the world is polarizing and it is necessary either to create your own pole of attraction, which is rather impossible for a little Azerbaijan, or choose who you are with. And for both ours and yours, as Aliyev has been acting lately, you can hang in the air, which nobody managed to do for a long time.
    1. ilyaspb
      ilyaspb April 21 2015 15: 28
      +17
      And what should they choose? They consider themselves part of the Turkish people. Consequently, the point of attraction is Turkey.
      1. Millibyte
        Millibyte April 21 2015 15: 54
        +4
        They are called that: the Transcaucasian Turks!
        1. Russian Uzbek
          Russian Uzbek April 21 2015 18: 23
          +2
          Actually, they are rather the Transcaucasian Tatars
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz April 21 2015 19: 20
            +8
            Quote: Russian Uzbek
            Actually, they are rather the Transcaucasian Tatars

            Azerbaijani Turks, and the fact that from the bulldozer who spoke Turkic in Russia immediately called Tatars spoke only of the incompetence of these people.
            1. Talgat
              Talgat April 21 2015 20: 24
              +6
              Yes, Eraz agrees,

              But just do it all. that Azerbaijan is an established state, oil revenues (like us) can help, so what? The main thing is that people live well

              The conflict in Karabakh was fanned by liberals in the era of the collapse of the USSR as one of the means of the collapse of our homeland

              Now we have an ambiguous situation - on the one hand, as an ally in the CSTO Armenia, but God forbid, what will begin, how will the Kazakhs or Kyrgyzs (and the Russian Federation is full of Turkic peoples) go to their own, to the Azerbaijanis? This will never happen - it’s clear to everyone already

              In general, there is no military solution, and it is not necessary - I need to come up with something, I don’t know what, but I need to - somehow sort this out. And Azerbaijan would be a very valuable participant in the EAEU - it’s a pity that so far this is not an option

              And with Turkey, I, too, in the place of the Russians would not put an end to them - and GDP and Erdogan bluntly stated that Europe "dynamite" Turkey with EU membership - they will never accept us said Erdogan - and indeed Europe will not accept Turkey - the difference of culture and mentality and Turkey is too big for the Europeans - but we can accept that - of course - not in one day - Moscow was not built right away - there are disagreements over Syria, etc. - but there are gas prospects and Turkey's refusal of sanctions -

              in general, the Turks are not our enemies, but they can become friends (even from personal experience - when you have to communicate with a Geyrope resident abroad - you can clearly see that he is holding you for a "subhuman" - Thank You! Fine smiles! looks at you like a yellow monkey)
              And in Turkey, I feel comfortable, any Turk (not Erdogan and the government) at the household level - treats with sincere sympathy and friendliness

              Visas were already canceled - we constantly go on vacation - overstocked with Turkish goods - in fact, Turkey is much closer to the CU and the EAEU than Vietnam itself

              No wonder our NAS offered to invite Turkey to the EAEU
              1. Horn
                Horn April 22 2015 06: 54
                +4
                how can the Kazakhs or Kyrgyz (and the Russian Federation is full of Turkic peoples) go on their own, on the Azerbaijanis? This will never happen - it’s clear to everyone already

                - That was already. They don’t really like Azerbaijanis in Kazakhstan-Uzbekistan. The situation was especially tense in the places of compact residence of Azerbaijanis and Meskhetians. Almost everyone left. Only a negligible amount remained. Here, where they live in separate families among the Kazakhs, everything is more or less calm. Kazakhs, like Russians, are quite friendly for the most part. Well, with the exception of either wild or imagining themselves descendants of Genghis.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS April 21 2015 22: 14
              +3
              Quote: Yeraz
              Azerbaijani Turks, and the fact that from the bulldozer who spoke Turkic in Russia immediately called Tatars spoke only of the incompetence of these people.

              Rather, about indifference in this matter.
        2. McLuha-MacLeod
          McLuha-MacLeod April 22 2015 10: 35
          +1
          They were always called Caucasian Tatars.
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      3. Alekseev
        Alekseev April 21 2015 15: 59
        +10
        Quote: ilyaspb
        And what should they choose? They consider themselves part of the Turkish people.

        But in Turkey, who do they consider?
        And are they ready to join the Turkish state, at least as a federation and a complete vassal? Like Canada and the USA.
        After all, then the need for local "Aliyevs" becomes questionable.
        1. ilyaspb
          ilyaspb April 21 2015 16: 15
          +3
          In Turkey, they are also considered Turks. Azerbaijanis call themselves divided people.
          And when choosing a different point of attraction, the need for the Aliyevs does not become a question? Why this remark in this context?
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 29
          +6
          Quote: Alekseev
          And are they ready to join the Turkish state, at least as a federation and a complete vassal?

          federation and vassal is not applicable when people are of the same blood. This is the same as saying whether the DPR and LPR are ready to become part of Russia as a federation and vassla. These are people of the same Russian blood. also here.
          After spending a week a month I could not get rid of the Turkish dialect, because the languages ​​are so close that one absorbs the other in an instant.
          Therefore, I do not go there permanently, because I understand that you can go against assimilation when there is opposition, and when the cultural environment is the same and everything is the same, everything happens instantly.
          Quote: Alekseev
          After all, then the need for local "Aliyevs" becomes questionable.

          Clearly Aliyev does not need, as well as a union with the Azerbaijanis of Iran. We are talking about the people.
          1. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev April 22 2015 15: 05
            0
            Quote: Yeraz
            Therefore, I do not go there permanently, because I understand that you can go against assimilation when there is opposition, and when the cultural environment is the same and everything is the same, everything happens instantly

            I don’t quite understand, are you against reunification (if it’s one people) and naturally assimilation? If so, why.
            By the way, what is your name in Azerbaijan? For example, Chechens have Nokhchi, and you?
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz April 22 2015 15: 37
              0
              Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
              I don’t quite understand, are you against reunification (if it’s one people) and naturally assimilation? If so, why.

              No, I don’t mind, because I don’t call it assimilation, everything is single.
              Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
              By the way, what is your name in Azerbaijan? For example, Chechens have Nokhchi, and you?

              We call ourselves Turks. Turks are Azeri-Turk. Azerbaijanis, like Dagestanis, are a bunch of Lezgins, Avars, Turks and all Azerbaijanis together. Just because of the strong position of the Turkic language and culture, one mixed up with the other.
        3. satris
          satris April 21 2015 17: 23
          +4
          Turkey offered them back under Heydar. And he replied: one people - two states. He hoped for oil and gas. Enough for a while.
      4. ltshyi01
        ltshyi01 April 21 2015 16: 05
        +4
        Д
        Quote: ilyaspb
        And what should they choose? They consider themselves part of the Turkish people. Consequently, the point of attraction is Turkey.

        Do not care who they consider themselves! Even if each of them is a direct descendant of the prophet, but in the world the crisis (political) and aside, they won’t be left out.
      5. Kent0001
        Kent0001 April 21 2015 17: 52
        +4
        No questions, the landmark of Turkey, then Turkey. Then you need to follow and follow the policies of Turkey in everything. And then Ilham decided that he could lead his party with the EU. As a result, we get what we get. To GDP again go to bow, oil kingdom damn ....
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 21 2015 17: 57
          +2
          Quote: Kent0001
          And then Ilham decided that he could lead his party with the EU.

          And I wonder which party Ilham leads with the EU? Gas pipes? So they go through Turkey. And they will never go through Russia, this is stupid and unprofitable.
          Quote: Kent0001
          To GDP again go to bow, oil kingdom damn ....

          The fact that he will flee to Moscow while staggering his throne. Russia loves, like London, which it often scolds for harboring different personalities, also hide all Akaevs, Yanukovychs and other gangs who robbed their people, and also hid the former president of Azerbaijan.
      6. afrikanez
        afrikanez April 21 2015 20: 34
        0
        They only need to unite. what
    2. sasha52ru
      sasha52ru April 21 2015 15: 32
      +7
      Moreover, the countries of the former union are all looking for where softer and where sweeter. Only they don’t understand one thing, that their West uses only for one purpose, to annoy Russia!
      And it turns out as always, or simply put as in Ukraine!
      1. Vend
        Vend April 21 2015 15: 55
        +9
        Here I look at the former Soviet republics, separated from Russia, well, they can’t fix life. All of them through one place. People run to work in Russia and other countries. problems with the economy, the countries themselves are a bargaining chip for the US and the EU, there is no development. But is it worth it independence, then to cave in under the USA and the EU?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS April 21 2015 18: 17
          0
          Quote: Wend
          Here I look at the former Soviet republics, separated from Russia, well, they can’t fix life. All of them through one place. People run to work in Russia and other countries. problems with the economy, the countries themselves are a bargaining chip for the US and the EU, there is no development. But is it worth it independence, then to cave in under the USA and the EU?

          From Russia, too, are fleeing, and the "brains".
          1. user
            user April 22 2015 10: 53
            0
            From Russia, too, are fleeing, and the "brains".


            If the "brains" are running or running away, how was Russia able to rise?
            And those fleeing who believe that Anglo-Saxon sausage is tastier than their own, but they forget that there the most important thing is the packaging.
            1. ilyaspb
              ilyaspb April 22 2015 11: 35
              0
              You are all about sausage. Any experienced programmer, artificial intelligence specialist received more than one offer from Western offices. They promise first of all the prospects for professional development, excellent equipment, advanced international projects, a team of professionals and completely different money.
              1. bubnila-70
                bubnila-70 April 22 2015 12: 23
                0
                ANY GRADUATE PROGRAMMER becomes experienced over time. The "brain drain" is a gathering of promising, young, talented researchers. And programmers in the Russian Federation are like filthy mushrooms ...........
                1. ilyaspb
                  ilyaspb April 22 2015 12: 44
                  0
                  For your information, any modern product of the military-industrial complex, automobile industry, and the aviation industry for the most part (in terms of production and maintenance costs) consists of software. And the competitiveness of the corresponding products to a greater extent depends on the quality of the software.
                  Programs are not only Windows, MS Office, Angry Birds and Solitaire.
                  Everything around is crammed with processors running expensive software: washing machines, expensive cars, modern honey. equipment, hard drives, wheel balancers, not to mention rockets, which consist of dozens of electronic units containing from one to 30 (maybe even more, have not yet met) processors, microcontrollers and FPGAs.
                  There is NO sufficient number of programmers in Russia capable of creating competitive products in the field of embedded software and artificial intelligence.
                  Even for calculating a piece of iron that is optimal in strength and weight, very complex and expensive software is required. The same with the calculation of thermal conditions. Not owning software development technologies is not possible to create anything modern.
                  1. user
                    user April 23 2015 10: 45
                    -1
                    Even for calculating a piece of iron that is optimal in strength and weight, very complex and expensive software is required. The same with the calculation of thermal conditions. Not owning software development technologies is not possible to create anything modern.


                    I’m wondering how we used to do without this software, at the institute we learned to count on a slide rule, and what is the most interesting thing that we are still proud of was designed without any software (this applies to air defense and the air force). In the simulation, yes used, but this is a different story. This is firstly, and secondly

                    Everything around is crammed with processors running expensive software: washing machines, expensive cars, modern honey. equipment, hard drives, wheel balancers, not to mention rockets, which consist of dozens of electronic units containing from one to 30 (maybe even more, have not yet met) processors, microcontrollers and FPGAs.


                    as far as my memory serves me, all programs for these electronic components are written in machine language, which, in principle, has nothing to do with the software that you listed.
                    1. ilyaspb
                      ilyaspb April 24 2015 11: 33
                      0
                      I’m wondering how we used to do without this software, at the institute we learned to count on a slide rule, and what is the most interesting thing that we are still proud of was designed without any software (this applies to air defense and the air force). In the simulation, yes used, but this is a different story. This is firstly, and secondly

                      1. Development times were longer.
                      2. The number of developers was greater.
                      3. The cost is also greater than when using the software.
                      4. Machine tools allow for more accurate calculations (since this does not already require huge time costs).
                      Modeling is never a separate story, but part of the development.
                      If you do not understand the development, do not talk about it out loud. Leave it to the developers. Moreover, do not try to argue with the developers.
                      as far as my memory serves me, all programs for these electronic components are written in machine language, which, in principle, has nothing to do with the software that you listed.

                      Most likely, memory doesn’t change you, you’re just trying to talk about what you don’t know. These programs are written in high-level languages ​​for a very long time. The reasons are the same.
                      1. user
                        user April 24 2015 12: 35
                        -1
                        These programs are written in high-level languages ​​for a very long time.


                        I must disappoint you, iron programs were written in machine codes and are written for this, there are a number of good reasons for this, and not the poverty of the customer, well, at least in the ISS JSC named after academician M.F. Reshetnyova. "
                      2. ilyaspb
                        ilyaspb April 24 2015 14: 05
                        0
                        You just made anti-advertising for this organization.
                        Although, most likely, you heard a ringing, but don’t know where it is. No one writes in machine codes. If they write, then in assembly language (the difference seems to be huge). And then, there must be very good reasons for this.
                        About customer poverty - development in high-level languages ​​is cheaper. Again, it says that you do not understand anything in development.
                        International standards for software development in the aerospace industry oblige the developer to cover the source code with tests, which is not possible when developing in assembly language. Russia recognizes these standards.
                        You can talk with students anything, but the program does not make your desire a modern product. But what about modernity - the average level of programmers in our defense industry does not even allow projects to be completed on time, as an ineptly built program crumbles and itself generates errors.
                      3. user
                        user April 27 2015 12: 35
                        0
                        You just made anti-advertising for this organization.


                        Well, this organization does not need special advertising.

                        No one writes in machine codes.


                        I wrote about programming iron.

                        - the average level of programmers in our defense industry does not even allow projects to be completed on time, as an ineptly built program crumbles and itself generates errors.


                        But for some reason the defense industry complex looks no worse than that of the bourgeoisie (this is me about the air defense, the air force and a number of other areas, alas, not in all). Well, if your program crumbles and itself generates errors, then you have gaps in education. I can recommend "Fundamental Algorithms" and "Structured Programming", and a lot more.
                      4. ilyaspb
                        ilyaspb April 28 2015 17: 17
                        0
                        I wrote about programming iron.

                        And I'm about programming iron. Have you written a lot of iron programs? Not a lab, but out of production? The firmware level programs for the garland also do not count.
                        Well, if your program crumbles and itself generates errors

                        Like any balabol student, you become personal when there are no arguments. You can recommend any books by Fowler.
                        I can recommend "Fundamental Algorithms" and "Structured Programming", and a lot more.

                        This is not about software architecture. Examples from Knut illustrate the disgusting programming style in places.
                        But for some reason, the military-industrial complex in our country looks no worse than that of the bourgeoisie (I’m talking about air defense, the air force and a number of other areas, alas, not in all).

                        What do you have to do with air defense and the air force that you declare the state of the defense industry in these areas?
                      5. ilyaspb
                        ilyaspb April 24 2015 14: 48
                        0
                        Information for consideration. About what the attempt to write code of modern complexity by old methods comes to.
                        http://ko.com.ua/kachestvo_vstraivaemogo_po_ili_pogrom_vsyo-taki_sluchilsya_9851
                        8

                        And here about how responsible avionics developers do it.
                        http://habrahabr.ru/post/182564/
                        http://habrahabr.ru/post/144686/
                      6. user
                        user April 29 2015 10: 50
                        0
                        Modern solutions for the control and monitoring of aircraft control systems (Flight Control System) is a complex hardware-software complex, the work of which, perhaps, in general, is not known to any of the employees and developers.


                        After reading this line, I didn’t even read (this is one of your links). if the author thinks so, then who is in charge of the project, or if the crowd gathered, they scratched their tongues and let the article squeeze, and then reviews of the projects on the same article.
                        All your reviews are at the level of a failed loser. You yourself don’t hear anything, and don’t want to, so I stop further communication. As for you personally, you at least assume for a moment that the person with whom you are communicating is no more stupid than you, well, at least he can read well and naturally analyze, otherwise the meaning of your communication is a mystery to me. Until . . .
                      7. ilyaspb
                        ilyaspb April 29 2015 12: 24
                        0
                        As for you personally, you at least suppose for a moment that the person with whom you are communicating is no more stupid than you, well, at least he knows how to read, and naturally analyze

                        Alas, this cannot be assumed of you if you prove to the avionics developer that the avionics software is written in machine code. Would you be able to analyze, would not do it. It is logical to suppose that the direct executor knows better than you what languages ​​he uses? But your ability as a couch analyst was not enough.
                        otherwise the meaning of your communication is a mystery to me.

                        I tried to understand the source of your stupidity. It seems like pride + illiteracy. This conjecture is confirmed by the fact that you have left the answer to the question about the sources of your competence.
          2. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev April 22 2015 15: 08
            0
            Quote: RUSS
            From Russia, too, are fleeing, and the "brains".

            These are different things. Brain drain is almost everywhere, maybe only from the USA they don’t leak and that’s all.
        2. Talgat
          Talgat April 21 2015 20: 02
          +6
          Quote: Wend
          former Soviet republics separated from Russia

          in fact, many did not "separate" - liberals seized power in Russia and "threw" the republics
          1. ilyaspb
            ilyaspb April 22 2015 12: 27
            0
            Well, what are you omitting the role of Belarus and Ukraine in this process. Yeltsin was with Kravchuk and Shushkevich.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 21 2015 15: 58
        +6
        Quote: sasha52ru
        Only they don’t understand one thing, that their West uses only for one purpose, to annoy Russia!

        It is not necessary to make everyone blind and only people in Russia all-seeing.
        Everyone perfectly understands who the West is and who Russia and that everyone respects their interests. Therefore, no one looks through the pink glasses. For the occupation of Karabakh and the destruction of the inhabitants of his Armenia, nothing, but for the Crimea of ​​Russia under all sorts of sanctions. So that the people perfectly see the duplicity .
        1. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev April 22 2015 15: 14
          +1
          Quote: Yeraz
          and the occupation of Karabakh and the destruction of the inhabitants of his armenia are nothing,

          So ARMENIANS HAVE A VERY STRONG LOBBY. So what is the Russian benefit in supporting Armenia? Yes, no, but someone Yeltsin knocked out on this step and dragged Russia into your conflict. I even know who) We stuck on for the most part, but it’s just not possible to have Whiti.
        2. sem_juver
          sem_juver April 22 2015 19: 31
          0
          Well, of course! But then Azerbaijan does not succeed in reproaching what? And the destruction of the Armenian inhabitants of Kirovobad, Sumnait, Baku, etc. can simply be attributed to the war? This is an excellent approach, characteristic of the Turks.
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    6. Eugene-Eugene
      Eugene-Eugene April 21 2015 18: 32
      +4
      And both ours and yours, as Aliyev acted lately, can be hung in the air

      Absolutely right, a short post-Soviet time passed when the wreck of the Union plowed the world ocean in free navigation. Now you need to choose which beach to be nailed to. It seems that at the moment Azerbaijan has made this choice in full growth. The next in line is Uzbekistan, whose leadership throughout 90-s has cult its political untouchability.
  2. vanavatny
    vanavatny April 21 2015 15: 09
    +8
    the farther in the economy, the more pulls to fight, I hope it will cost soldier
    1. avg
      avg April 21 2015 15: 36
      +2
      In addition to all of the above, they also spent on the "European Games" (from 12 to 28 June 2015). Now Aliyev's wife runs all over Europe, inviting tourists. So, there won't be any provocations until July.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver April 21 2015 16: 20
        +8
        Everything is simple. Oil has fallen, and what is in the economy of Azerbaijan, in addition to oil and gas? Russia can sell at least S-300.
        Oil will rise, and Aliyev will again be able to successfully portray the successful head of a successful almost European power. Unless, of course, he sat before in his chair, otherwise he would not have sat down on a bunk, or even on a stake.
  3. Turbo rabbit
    Turbo rabbit April 21 2015 15: 12
    +8
    A nefig rushing around.
  4. Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 April 21 2015 15: 15
    +7
    The northern furry animal crept imperceptibly ... Aliyev hoped to sit on several chairs, but the consequences of such a policy overtook him, and with it the country he leads ... Share, but you still have to choose a priority.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun April 21 2015 15: 32
      +6
      Quote: Vyacheslav73
      hoped to sit on several chairs, but the consequences of such a policy overtook him, and with it the country he led.

      And by the way, he is not the first and not the last. But I hope Aliyev has the wisdom and will to admit mistakes.

      The other side is that the gold and foreign exchange reserves of Azerbaijan, which, according to some sources, amount to $ 50 billion, are mainly stored in western banks. And now they, under various pretexts, refuse to provide them Hands to Azerbaijan

      Hmm .. worthy students of their teacher))) it reminds me of someone.
  5. Pfcts
    Pfcts April 21 2015 15: 16
    +12
    Very strange. If in Turkey they react painfully to the mention of the genocide in the Ottoman Empire, but at the same time they deny the fact of genocide not so zealously, and some Turkish leaders do not deny it at all, then Azerbaijanis have an incredible anal explosion due to the phrase "Armenian genocide" ... Why be so indignant then? The successor of the Ottoman is Turkey, in case of recognition it will compensate (by analogy with Germany and the Jews), Azerbaijan is formally nothing to do with.

    But in general, the situation is interesting, relations between Turks and Azerbaijanis began to resemble relations between Russians and Ukrainians.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS April 21 2015 15: 33
      +4
      Friendship is friendship, and there are separate tablets.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 15: 36
      0
      Quote: Functional
      But in general, the situation is interesting, relations between Turks and Azerbaijanis began to resemble relations between Russians and Ukrainians.

      In what interesting place did it begin to remind ?? Not even close.
      Azerbaijani Turks and Turkish Turks are much closer and their attitude is on a completely different level, even in the best years of the brotherhood of Russians and Ukrainians.
      1. Pfcts
        Pfcts April 21 2015 15: 53
        +3
        in many places. and everywhere there is a question of money.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS April 21 2015 15: 56
        +3
        Quote: Yeraz
        Quote: Functional
        But in general, the situation is interesting, relations between Turks and Azerbaijanis began to resemble relations between Russians and Ukrainians.

        In what interesting place did it begin to remind ?? Not even close.
        Azerbaijani Turks and Turkish Turks are much closer and their attitude is on a completely different level, even in the best years of the brotherhood of Russians and Ukrainians.

        What exactly is the attitude better and how are you closer?
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 11
          -3
          Quote: RUSS
          What exactly is the attitude better and how are you closer?

          There is no conflict, we are better, we are cooler, which infuriates others in relations with Russia.
          We perceive each other really, as one people as it is. The Turks do not call us Azerbaijanis, but call Azeri-Turk. The feeling of one blood is real.
          The motto of the state at the official level is 1 people 2 state.
          Turks don’t throw a tantrum, because Turkish is not an official state language, or Turkish channels have banned television, although Russia and Russians have thrown a tantrum. It’s because the Turk seems stupid to impose his pronunciation on the other Azerbaijani Turk. Since we understand perfectly well each other, which Russia and Ukraine do not have and did not have, and that is slowly starting in Belarus.
          You will never hear that the Russian leader once came to Kiev and said this was the birthplace of my ancestors, that is where our fathers come from. It is recognized in Russia that it is believed that there are no Ukrainian nation and people, in principle, but were originally Russian.
          And Erdogan, having arrived in Kazakhstan, said this is the birthplace of our fathers, and the Cossacks are our great ancestors, our brothers.
          Yes, and stupidly on the mental level, kinship is much closer, I grew up in Russia and I know what I'm talking about.
          1. Pfcts
            Pfcts April 21 2015 16: 26
            +4
            you can be called brothers and allies, you can make loud statements and visit each other. only this has nothing to do with real politics. and in real politics it seems that as soon as the question of money arises, the Turkish Turks overturn their Azeri brothers over and over again, even on the "Armenian question"
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 40
              -1
              Quote: Functional
              as soon as the question of money arises, Turkish Turks overturn their Azeri brothers over and over again, even on the "Armenian issue"

              so it’s all backed up by economic and political issues.
              So Erdoganchik tried to push the Azeri-Turks in an attempt to open the border with Armenia, only the Turkish Turks going out into the street showed him that he wouldn’t get the border. There are some points that are backed up by blood.
      3. quote
        quote April 21 2015 16: 07
        +1
        MP Ganira Pashayeva said that this decision, "based on lies, will never be accepted by any Turk."
        How quickly they "tied up" the Turks, but it looks like something.
        "It's not us, they killed themselves" (there was genocide, nothing to do with us.)!
      4. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul April 21 2015 17: 34
        +2
        Azerbaijani Turks and Turkish Turks are much closer and their attitude is on a completely different level, even in the best years of the brotherhood of Russians and Ukrainians.
        This friendship will last until the United States appears. yes
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  6. Abbra
    Abbra April 21 2015 15: 17
    0
    Baku has time to think. With whom? How? Why?
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 April 21 2015 15: 27
      +1
      Does Russia have time to think before contacting Turkey?
  7. 0,5
    0,5 April 21 2015 15: 18
    +4
    Aliyev will be in Moscow on May 9 at the Parade
    1. STALGRAD76
      STALGRAD76 April 21 2015 15: 35
      0
      Are you already a colonel? Congratulations grow before your eyes ......
      1. 0,5
        0,5 April 21 2015 16: 37
        +1
        Quote: STALGRAD76
        Are you already a colonel? Congratulations grow before your eyes ......

        I got virtual shoulder straps and what is the growth expressed in? If dividends or intellect grew from this, then I could be glad, but three days ago there were gray epaulettes and now stars appeared on them, but this did not affect the changes in my real life ... In the virtual, gray epaulets often minus without reading comments winked
        It's ridiculous to type a dozen minuses for a completely neutral comment.
        I played enough in these games with epaulettes already, burned out wassat
  8. Sergey K.
    Sergey K. April 21 2015 15: 23
    +6
    It was not enough for the Azerbaijani government to start pursuing the same policy as the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine! From hopelessness, such a turn of events is very possible for them.
  9. kuz363
    kuz363 April 21 2015 15: 26
    -4
    Unpredictable Turkey will also act in the future with the Turkish stream. Russia swells dozens of mld. dollars, and the Turks will dictate their fair prices. But for Russia, the train left, nowhere to go. will have to obey.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 21 2015 15: 42
      +10
      If you make a choice between Turkey and Bulgaria, the choice is clearly in Turkey’s favor. Firstly, there are no preconditions for Turkey’s unpredictability, secondly, it is much more sovereign and not subject to shouts from overseas than Bulgaria, thirdly, it is always better to conclude a mutually beneficial agreement with a long-time rival than with a constant traitor. And there are no other countries in the region geography for the pipe. There is still gypsy Romania, but this is not even considered, Ukraine is number two
    2. skifd
      skifd April 21 2015 15: 58
      +2
      Quote: kuz363
      Unpredictable Turkey will also act in the future with the Turkish stream. Russia swells dozens of mld. dollars, and the Turks will dictate their fair prices.


      Try to be on top of the topic before writing. In the first, not "Turkish Stream", but "South". Secondly, only to the border to the border with Turkey. Gas will be sold to Turkey at prices determined by long-term agreements. Next is Turkey's business, it will go gray on the "hub" and determine its "margin" along with the smut, where to put it all. Tell me, you (if you were in Turkey) didn’t think that the desire of every second (or even the first) Turk that you meet is “a feature of the national character” ?! I'm joking a little, of course, but I think there won't be any problems with sales.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS April 21 2015 16: 09
        +2
        Quote: skifd
        Quote: kuz363
        Unpredictable Turkey will also act in the future with the Turkish stream. Russia swells dozens of mld. dollars, and the Turks will dictate their fair prices.


        Try to be on top of the topic before writing. In the first, not "Turkish Stream", but "South". Secondly, only to the border to the border with Turkey. Gas will be sold to Turkey at prices determined by long-term agreements. Next is Turkey's business, it will go gray on the "hub" and determine its "margin" along with the smut, where to put it all. Tell me, you (if you were in Turkey) didn’t think that the desire of every second (or even the first) Turk that you meet is “a feature of the national character” ?! I'm joking a little, of course, but I think there won't be any problems with sales.

        It is the "Turkish Stream" since the "South" was canceled.
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null April 21 2015 16: 15
        +2
        Damage a bit:

        Quote: skifd
        Try to be in the subject before writing . First of all not "Turkish Stream", but "South"; . Secondly only to the border to the border with Turkey ... Gas will be sold to Turkey at prices determined by long-term agreements. Next is Turkey's business, it will go gray on the "hub" and determine its "margin" along with the smut, where to put it all. Tell me, you (if you were in Turkey) didn’t think that the desire of every second (or even the first) Turk that you meet is “a feature of the national character” ?! I'm joking a little, of course, but I think there won't be any problems with sales.


        Gas pipeline "Turkish Stream" should be the only route for the supply of 63 billion cubic meters of Russian gas to the EU countries, which will remove the risks of transit through Ukraine, said the head of the Russian concern Alexey Miller after negotiations with the new deputy chairman of the European Commission on Energy, Maros Shefovich.

        That is, the flow is still Turkish ..

        "We are now drawing the attention of our European colleagues to the fact that we are creating capacities along the bottom of the Black Sea in the direction of Turkey, we create capacities together with our Turkish colleagues to the border of Greece and Turkey, that is, to the border of the European Union such capacities will be created. But what concerns the creation of capacities already on the territory of the European Union, but this is the zone of responsibility of the EU and the European Commission, "Miller said.

        ... and to the border of Turkey and Greece, not Turkey and Russia ..

        That's really true - "Пtry to be in the subject before writing" hi
      3. Pissarro
        Pissarro April 21 2015 16: 16
        +2
        everything is true, except that all the same Turkish, not Southern
        1. skifd
          skifd April 21 2015 23: 11
          0
          Quote: Pissarro
          everything is true, except that all the same Turkish, not Southern


          I beg your pardon, I didn’t sleep at night and, apparently, it was "wedged" wassat request .......
  10. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 April 21 2015 15: 28
    +6
    This is all because Aliyev, the youngest, is trying to please everyone. (Ukrainian scenario). Therefore, the West has an attitude towards him like a lokey and, accordingly, the same attitude towards Azerbaijan.
  11. forester
    forester April 21 2015 15: 31
    +7
    This country, like many others from the former USSR, was engaged in political prostitution for many years. The result is logical: you need to get married on time, while someone needs. And money for Azerbaijanis in the Soviet era was a deity, an artifact, and an aphrodisiac.
    1. 416D
      416D April 21 2015 17: 05
      -1
      forester:
      No need to attribute your occupation to other countries
    2. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 22 2015 12: 00
      0
      We are not a bride, we are looking for someone to marry ... so do not roll your lip, swallow saliva, knock on the wrong door ....
  12. STALGRAD76
    STALGRAD76 April 21 2015 15: 33
    +2
    Difficult period, so what happens to anyone, in recent decades around the world "difficult period" ........
    There are a number of former republics of the USSR that can be set as an example for some "stillborn type states" Azerbaijan is one of such republics deserving respect ...
  13. KBR109
    KBR109 April 21 2015 15: 40
    +2
    Quote: 0,5
    Aliyev will be in Moscow on May 9 at the Parade
    If this turns out to be true ... Belarusians do not scratch your eyes? what
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 15: 59
      +2
      Quote: KBR109
      If that turns out to be true ...

      Consent has already been given.
      1. IS-80
        IS-80 April 21 2015 22: 02
        +1
        Quote: Yeraz
        Consent has already been given.

        This is not your holiday. Why is he going to the capital of the Bloody Empire? After all, it’s the cruel imperial political officers of the NKVD who drove the unfortunate crying Azerbaijanis to German machine guns. How could he do that?
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 21 2015 22: 44
          +1
          Quote: IS-80
          This is not your holiday.

          This is precisely the tragedy of the people, which gave the lives of hundreds of thousands of soldiers for the dismantling of 2 empires.
          Quote: IS-80
          How could he do that?

          He goes to remember the dead.
          1. IS-80
            IS-80 April 21 2015 23: 41
            +1
            Quote: Yeraz
            This is precisely the tragedy of the people, which gave the lives of hundreds of thousands of soldiers for the dismantling of 2 empires.

            Ndaaaa, here it is, however. I thought my ancestors fought so that people would not be burned alive simply because it seemed to someone that they were a lower race. But it turned out they were the usual showdown stabbing so to speak. What else interesting did the mysterious voice in your Azerbaijani head tell you?
            Quote: Yeraz
            He goes to remember the dead.

            Why go so far? Is this your custom I don’t know about? And why to Moscow? Maybe better in Somalia or to penguins in Antarctica?
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz April 22 2015 00: 19
              -1
              Quote: IS-80
              I thought my ancestors fought so that people would not be burned alive simply because it seemed to someone that they were a lower race

              He considered the Slavs inferior this time. Turkey was an ally of Germany and if the battle of Stalingrad were lost, Turkish divisions would enter the South Caucasus and Azerbaijan would be liberated and Azerbaijanis would save the Caucasus from the Armenians.
              Quote: IS-80
              But it turned out they were the usual showdown stabbing so to speak.

              Dismantling of two imepriy. And there is no need to say anything else here.
              My people, your beloved comrade Stalin took deported and many died. And why all ???
              Because everything is beautiful on paper, but not in fact, he understood that with a possible invasion of Turkey, which he planned, Azerbaijanis living on the border with Turkey, unlike Germans for whom were as strangers as Russians, would definitely not shoot Turks but it will happen the other way around and they’ve taken the whole region cleaned up. I don’t need the right books of councils or the Russian Federation, according to which I studied or the wrong Azerbaijan, as you think, I’m talking about a situation from life. And I deported mine and destroyed not the German.
              And they did not notice the strangeness of everything around is not right, only in Russia is everything right ?? Maybe the problem is different ??
              Quote: IS-80
              Why go so far? Is this your custom I don’t know about? And why to Moscow? Maybe better in Somalia or to penguins in Antarctica?

              The main parade was held in Moscow and I don’t feel like scolding. That's all. And in the case of Aliyev, he hardly remembered them, rather he just came to hang out and chat with different leaders.
              1. Rusich is not from Kiev
                Rusich is not from Kiev April 22 2015 15: 54
                0
                Т
                Quote: Yeraz
                He considered the inferior Slavs this time


                This is not enough for you. Are you a fascist? Or Azerbaijanis are the highest nation, and Russians are lower than you. Hmm, someone else is talking about Nazism in Russia. Here they are Caucasian Natsik, not even shy.

                Quote: Yeraz
                .Turkey was an ally of Germany and if the battle of Stalingrad were lost, Turkish divisions would enter the South Caucasus and Azerbaijan would be liberated and Azerbaijanis would save the Caucasus from Armenians


                Do you have documents that Turkey would invade the USSR? Can you give a link, huh? Turkey was not an ally of Germany, do not lie here.
                Delivered, would they kill everyone? I understand everything, but I see such a fascist here for the first time.

                Quote: Yeraz
                Dismantling of two imepriy. And there is no need to say anything else here.

                You need to learn history, read books. Maybe you will not become Natsik, but you will start to think a little. Just like Ukrainians say about the great ukrov and they also do not need to say anything else laughing



                Quote: Yeraz
                Because everything is beautiful on paper, but not in fact, he understood that with a possible invasion of Turkey, which he planned, Azerbaijanis living on the border with Turkey, unlike Germans for whom were as strangers as Russians, would definitely not shoot Turks , but the opposite will happen and they took the whole region cleared

                Planning an invasion of Turkey? What did not intrude? Was Azerov scared? Do you even understand the concept of the word INVASION?
                Remember the kid RI led the whole 19th century warriors from Turkey and there weren’t any riots there, but who fought with Turkey and so on. Remind me what happened in Iran at that time?

                Quote: Yeraz
                My people, your beloved comrade Stalin took deported and many died. And why all ???

                Yes, deported, and not only you. To say how many Russians were deported from their land? To say how many of them died? Already more Azeris. In addition to deporting part of the Azeris from part of the land, he gave you education, industry, and medicine. Not like in RI it was only among the rich, but to all Azerbaijanis.

                Quote: Yeraz
                And they did not notice the strangeness of everything around is not right, only in Russia is everything right ?? Maybe the problem is different ??

                Well, for those who believe that the Slavs are the lowest race, and this does not concern you living in the same country as the Slavs, of course, the problem is in Russia itself. These are the Natsiks of Azeri, Ukrainian, Polish, Baltic who served Hitler for you and those like you are right.
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz April 23 2015 03: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  This is not enough for you. Are you a fascist?

                  Is everything okay with his head ?? If Hitler considered you an inferior race, but everyone was told that he would kill everyone, and we said no to you, then we are fascists ???
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  Turkey was not an ally of Germany, do not lie here.

                  Read books Turkey was on the side of Germany and was waiting for the moment to enter the war on its side.
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  You need to learn history, read books. Maybe you will not become Natsik, but you will start to think a little. Just like Ukrainians say about the great ukrov and they also do not need to say anything else

                  It’s not in my native country that people go with a swastika and a bald head, but in Russia there are a lot of such groups, they even note their leader Hitler on the open day. Therefore, it’s not for you to teach us about fascism.
                  And I read enough books, and the Russians, I grew up here and the local propaganda, only unlike some urapatriotic zombies I can turn on the brain and see what’s how.
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  Planning an invasion of Turkey? What did not intrude? Was Azerov scared? Do you even understand the concept of the word INVASION?

                  You really need to drink vitamins. Not because of the fear of Azerbaijanis (learn to write correctly), but because the United States dropped a nuclear bomb on Japan and Turkey was lucky. Read about it at your leisure. But the fear of Azerbaijanis would also not deport.
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  Yes, deported, and not only you. To say how many Russians were deported from their land? To say how many of them died?

                  So this was your leader, for us the leadership was different, so it’s one thing when my father can hit me just like that from a bold, and another thing is a stranger. This is not the same thing.
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  In addition to deporting part of the Azeris from part of the land, he gave you education, industry, and medicine.

                  wai wai, and so we sat on the trees and did not know anything. Thank you for the great))
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  Well, for those who believe that the Slavs are the lowest race, and it’s not for you living in the same country as the Slavs

                  Where did you see that I wrote that the Slavs are the lowest race ?? I cited the opinion of Hitler, not to be confused with mine.
                  1. Rusich is not from Kiev
                    Rusich is not from Kiev April 23 2015 05: 14
                    0
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    Is everything okay with his head ?? If Hitler considered you an inferior race, but everyone was told that he would kill everyone, and we said no to you, then we are fascists ???

                    did you even understand what you wrote? Azeris and Turks Aryans?)) You for the fascists were no different in race from the Slavs.
                    NOT THIS ESSENCE. You don’t remember what question you answered. Did the kid fall into insanity?

                    Quote: Yeraz

                    Read books Turkey was on the side of Germany and was waiting for the moment to enter the war on its side

                    What books are these? Like Suvorov? As I understand it, you’re still a child of the campaign. If you make such statements, then give links to the facts. There are documents confirming your words. At that time everyone was waiting for something, the only fact was that when the German was already in Ossetia, the Turks did not attack anyone, but sat quietly like mice. And you, with your inventions, go to the hohland, they love such people there.


                    Quote: Yeraz
                    It’s not in my native country that people go with a swastika and a bald head, but in Russia there are a lot of such groups, they even note their leader Hitler on the open day. Therefore, it’s not for you to teach us about fascism.
                    And I read enough books, and the Russians, I grew up here and the local propaganda, only unlike some urapatriotic zombies I can turn on the brain and see what’s how.

                    So they don’t go to you, but simply cut them out and drive them off. No need to shave your head to be a fascist. Yes, we honor Hitler, but you seem to have a normal holiday on the day of the massacre of Armenians. Well, and who is worse, the scum of society or you.
                    You have not read books from the word AT ALL. Because only an ignoramus can consider that the Second World War and WWII are just a showdown of two empires. Once again I repeat, ignoramus. Although you are a Nazi and an Azerbaijani.

                    Quote: Yeraz
                    You really need to drink vitamins. Not because of the fear of Azerbaijanis (learn to write correctly), but because the United States dropped a nuclear bomb on Japan and Turkey was lucky. Read about it at your leisure. But the fear of Azerbaijanis would also not deport.

                    You are already completely on a national basis crazy. I say again, such things must be documented. One grandmother said there is no wheel. Stalin wanted no more concessions to the Dardanelles, or rather, the Navy’s base there. What does the bomb have to do with it.
                    Yes, he was afraid you weren’t afraid of urine. laughing
                    I write correctly, for me you are Azeri from the market, an ordinary Natsik and an ignoramus. This does not concern other Azerbaijanis.
                  2. Rusich is not from Kiev
                    Rusich is not from Kiev April 23 2015 05: 15
                    -1
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    So this was your leader, for us the leadership was different, so it’s one thing when my father can hit me just like that from a bold, and another thing is a stranger. This is not the same thing.

                    What, Stalin is ONLY our leader? Him, what did the Russians personally appoint? Your head is not bo, bo? From what lyady this is not your leadership, did you decide so? WAS the USSR and he was a leader for everyone, it was not Russian people who hung his portraits to you, not Russians sitting in your party. You are a kid completely beguiled the coast. You really need to study, study and study again.


                    Quote: Yeraz
                    wai wai, and so we sat on the trees and did not know anything. Thank you for the great))

                    Yes, it was about that. Maybe I will call a dozen scientists to Stalin. Mathematicians, engineers. Can you tell me the percentage of literacy and the number of universities?

                    Quote: Yeraz
                    Where did you see that I wrote that the Slavs are the lowest race ?? I cited the opinion of Hitler, not to be confused with mine.

                    You emphasized this, saying that if Hitler considered the Slavs to be an inferior race, then the Azerbaijanis had nothing to do with war. The fact that your ancestors lived, worked in the same country with the Slavs whom they wanted to destroy is not important to you. The usual Caucasian nation.
          2. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev April 22 2015 15: 32
            -1
            Quote: Yeraz
            This is precisely the tragedy of the people, which gave the lives of hundreds of thousands of soldiers for the dismantling of 2 empires.

            How do you live with such an understanding of the Second World War and the history of the USSR in Russia. I don’t want that such people lived in my homeland. Go to Turkey or Azerbaijanian or denyuzhku more importantly.
            Judging by your comments, Russia is not your homeland, but a place of residence and earnings. Correctly say that Caucasians are almost all traitors.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz April 23 2015 03: 41
              -1
              Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
              How do you live with such an understanding of the Second World War and the history of the USSR in Russia.

              calmly.
              Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
              I don’t want that such people lived in my homeland. Go to Turkey or Azerbaijanian or denyuzhku more importantly.

              I can’t. You deported my relatives (taking into account your understanding of the proposal, explaining what you mean by your leadership) and I didn’t ask here, return the lands taken from me immediately I will fly away.
              Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
              Judging by your comments, Russia is not your homeland, but a place of residence and earnings. Correctly say that Caucasians are almost all traitors.

              hahaha)) the traitors are the Armenians, not us. And if I were a traitor, I wouldn’t openly open my eyes to you, but would shout cheers, down with ukrov and the State Department. So, reconcile)
              1. Rusich is not from Kiev
                Rusich is not from Kiev April 23 2015 05: 26
                0
                Quote: Yeraz
                I can’t. You deported my relatives (taking into account your understanding of the proposal, explaining what you mean by your leadership) and I didn’t ask here, return the lands taken from me immediately I will fly away.

                Why don’t you, have your passport taken away or are you in slavery?
                The leadership was general, so claims against the Communists or the Georgian Cape. Sell ​​an apartment and buy back your land, there will still be.

                Quote: Yeraz
                hahaha)) the traitors are the Armenians, not us. And if I were a traitor, I wouldn’t openly open my eyes to you, but would shout cheers, down with ukrov and the State Department. So, reconcile)

                Ha ha But how do you differ from Armenians? Born and live in a country that you hate and are proud of the fact that you do not hide your thoughts on the Internet. You only live in Russia because nobody needs you in your homeland.
                About ukrov and state dep I say, Caucasians are traitors. You even sold your homeland for money)))
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz April 23 2015 20: 32
                  0
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  Sell ​​an apartment and buy back your land, there will still be.

                  It's not about the money, we were deported, and the lands were given to the Armenians, and how do you imagine my return there and living ??
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  You only live in Russia because nobody needs you in your homeland.

                  Come on, checked? If my citizenship of the Russian Federation and everything is here, why should I live there ?? All my relatives are here and I live in my environment.
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  You even sold your homeland for money)))

                  Less stupid sarcasm. My motherland is in my blood and I have not sold it to anyone and will be in the forefront in case of danger. The Türks have a proverb, the land of the Türk where his horse stepped. So go go boiling in your chauvinism.
  14. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN April 21 2015 15: 42
    0
    Azerbaijan must hold on to Russia, Russia will not throw. Moreover, half of Azerbaijan live off of transfers from Russia. Yes, and Russian equipment buys, and this is, whatever one may say, Russian specialists serving spare parts. An example of friendship with the West is Ukraine and Georgia, do not forget about it. Moreover, Turkey is now actively moving closer to Russia.
    1. Millibyte
      Millibyte April 21 2015 15: 59
      +4
      In the 90s, several directors of Moscow fruit and vegetable bases were shot dead by orders of Azerbaijanis. Now, at all bases, the leaders are Azerbaijanis and prices for fruits and vegetables are synchronized throughout Moscow.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 13
        +1
        Quote: Millibyte
        Now, at all bases, the leaders are Azerbaijanis and prices for fruits and vegetables are synchronized throughout Moscow.

        wai wai it turns out that neither the police ear plugs of the bribe, nor the employees of other law enforcement agencies covering it, not the corrupt officials of the apparatus, but the Azerbaijanis, who allegedly killed a couple of directors, are to blame.
        Oh, you lovers of the thesis, the king is not to blame, it's all the boyars. But even it turns out it's not the boyars and their deputies, but people with a rank much lower))))
        1. IS-80
          IS-80 April 21 2015 23: 46
          0
          Quote: Yeraz
          Ah you lovers of the thesis the king is not to blame, it's all the boyars.

          And you do the opposite? The king is to blame, but the boyars have nothing to do with it? If someone poured debris under your door, do you immediately blame the president for this?
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz April 22 2015 00: 22
            0
            Quote: IS-80
            And you do the opposite? The king is to blame, but the boyars have nothing to do with it? If someone poured debris under your door, do you immediately blame the president for this?

            Here is a typical ratio of either white or black.
            The whole system is to blame, the boyar did, the tsar did not follow and pretended not to see. FISH rots from the head. When Serdyukov all steal and calmly walks, then say that the tsar has nothing to do with it stupidly, but could punish then ?? So no. Even the female brigade dry came out of the water.
            Want to play blind play.
            1. Rusich is not from Kiev
              Rusich is not from Kiev April 22 2015 15: 58
              +1
              Quote: Yeraz
              The whole system is to blame, the boyar did, the king did not keep track and pretended not to see. FISH rots from the head

              But Azerbaijanis are not to blame right? Can you condemn for decency, at least, or your bandits Azerbaijanis is good if they kill in Russia?
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz April 23 2015 03: 43
                0
                Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                But Azerbaijanis are not to blame right?

                Let’s stop thinking in black and white terms. I’ll tell you a secret about perception problems. He is a bandit regardless of the nation, and the Azerbaijani bandit is even worse because he disgraces me and it hurts me more than a Russian, Chechen or other bandit. Each in charge of his blood.
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    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 00
      0
      Quote: RuslanNN
      Moreover, half of Azerbaijan live off remittances from Russia.

      And when you stop repeating this mantura !! This is not Armenia, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan. Look at the structure of the economy of Azerbaijan before making false statements.
    4. Andrew 447
      Andrew 447 April 21 2015 16: 12
      +4
      Azerbaijan must hold on to Russia, Russia will not throw.
      Do we need this? Slightly the wind will change and again We will become invaders for them?
    5. semirek
      semirek April 21 2015 19: 05
      0
      Quote: RuslanNN
      Azerbaijan must hold on to Russia, Russia will not throw. Moreover, half of Azerbaijan live off of transfers from Russia. Yes, and Russian equipment buys, and this is, whatever one may say, Russian specialists serving spare parts. An example of friendship with the West is Ukraine and Georgia, do not forget about it. Moreover, Turkey is now actively moving closer to Russia.

      And what did Azerbaijan gain from independence? Dawn (and the name itself) Azerbaijan - falls on the Soviet era, What now? a lot of unsolved problems, attempts to play on kindred feelings (I mean the brothers of the Turks), Azerbaijan’s place in Russia, under any conditions, although in fact we have it, but its future is only in dreams.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 21 2015 19: 22
        0
        Quote: semirek
        Yes, and the name itself)

        In the sense of?
    6. Samarskiy
      Samarskiy April 22 2015 07: 43
      0
      Turkey is a very insidious enemy of Russia. It is the enemy. Still. Turkey is one of the most aggressive states in the history of mankind.
      They destroyed Byzantium, eliminated the Balkans (thereby laying the roots of almost all conflicts there), and climbed into Palestine and Egypt. Everywhere the most brutal way destroyed the Christian population. The great blood of the Russian people managed to clear our south of this evil spirits. How much blood was shed in the same Balkans.
      Remember a more recent story. During World War II, Turkey occupied a prostitution policy.
      During the war in Chechnya, Turkey was a sanatorium for militants. Now this state is in NATO and, like, is friends with the United States, which does not stop them from destroying the Kurds (thereby helping ISIS), and it is precisely through Turkey that the Caucasian militants flow into ISIS. What a rapprochement here. They need to be aimed at nuclear missiles and hold your finger over the red button.
      They had one moment of enlightenment in history, and even that ended quite quickly.
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik April 22 2015 11: 51
        0
        Quietly, quietly, quietly .... why on behalf of a Russian person do you write such nasty things? Although this is your Armenian nature, out of silence ...
        1. Samarskiy
          Samarskiy April 22 2015 16: 52
          0
          What nasty things? I give the actual material.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 22 2015 15: 39
        0
        Quote: Samarskiy
        Turkey is one of the most aggressive states in the history of mankind.

        aaah yes of course. Where did the Turks before the lovely Europeans laid tens of millions in just 1 war. Angry and treacherous Turks))
        1. Samarskiy
          Samarskiy April 22 2015 16: 53
          0
          I wrote that "one of". To the most bloody, through the efforts of our Russian people, they did not grow up.
  15. Umnichka
    Umnichka April 21 2015 15: 46
    +2
    Article minus. A 30% drop in the local currency against the US dollar is not a depreciation of scholarships, pensions and salaries by 30%, these are different things that are by no means in such a direct proportion. The author of hollow tails, simply beautifully sets out what we like. To put it mildly, he is far from the truth, specifically, it is pleasant for the ear (eye) to lie.
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 22 2015 11: 45
      0
      Looks like a really smart girl))
  16. Yeraz
    Yeraz April 21 2015 15: 51
    -2
    Another anti-Azerbaijani article, only if earlier there were Armenian authors, then right now the separatist stumbling in Moscow.
    The state reserve is sufficient this time.
    The second oil price is rising right now.
    And thirdly, they will start to take less away and the money that they invested in large infrastructure projects has already been paid. Everything will be fine.
    Turkey will not refuse from it regarding TANAP, the cheapest gas will be received from there and the countries of Eastern Europe are very interested in this pipeline. And Azerbaijan has funds.
    Regarding genocide. Azerbaijan’s position on this issue is much tougher than Turkey’s and harsher. Including ordinary citizens of Azerbaijan. Turkey is a brotherly country and Turks are blood brothers. Do not confuse brotherhood with Ukrainians or Belarusians, the perception is on a completely different level. .The fact that Stalin forced all Azerbaijanis to record did not stop making us Turks. You won’t run away from blood. Azerbaijani Turks would remain Turks. Armenians are the only nation that always called us TURKS, unlike the others, who were imposed with an imaginary name.
    And the Turks of Turkey do not have the haughty attitude that exists in the relations of the Slavs. When the Turkish leaders come to Azerbaijan we say the brothers are of the same blood, coming to Kazakhstan they say this is the birthplace of our fathers.

    Therefore, with these weak, stupid articles, a maximum of a certain part of the audience can be deceived. Knowledgeable people understand everything perfectly. 24 We organize funny events in St. Petersburg in honor of the imaginary genocide. And let this PAPA with his homo community recognize this "genocide" 100000000 times.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky April 21 2015 16: 09
      +5
      Quote: Yeraz
      24 organize fun events in St. Petersburg in honor of the alleged genocide.

      Is Rome weak? Or are there carabinieri more abruptly than riot police and cannot buy out compatriots from the "monkeys"? In Baku, at least stand on your head, but in Russia you see yourself as befitting a guest.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 19
        0
        Quote: Tersky
        Is it weak in Rome?

        Perhaps they will gather and mark there, I do not own the info.
        Quote: Tersky
        ? Or are there carabinieri more abruptly than riot police and cannot buy out compatriots from the "monkeys"?

        And what does the ransom have to do with it ?? Since when is picking up in a restaurant and arranging a holiday considered a violation of the law ??
        Quote: Tersky
        In Baku, at least stand on your head, but in Russia you see yourself as befitting a guest.

        In Russia, we are in accordance with the law and denial of the type of genocide of Armenians and the holding of fun events is not punishable by Russian law.

        But the fact that the Armenians magnificently celebrate the days and various heroes of Fascist Garegin Nzhdeh in Russia in pompous tones, that would have bothered you better
        1. Tersky
          Tersky April 21 2015 16: 28
          +5
          Quote: Yeraz
          But the fact that the Armenians magnificently celebrate the days and various heroes of Fascist Garegin Nzhdeh in Russia in pompous tones, that would have bothered you better

          The same goes for them, dancing on the bones is not holidays ..
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 41
            -1
            Quote: Tersky
            The same goes for them, dancing on the bones is not holidays ..

            On the bones? For us, this is a victory over the traitors. And we also celebrate the battle of Canakkale.
    2. reservist
      reservist April 21 2015 16: 42
      +6
      Quote: Yeraz
      24 we organize in St. Petersburg fun events in honor of alleged genocide

      From 1900 to 1922, the Christian population in Anatolia declined from 25% to less than 5%
      quote taken from here http://www.srpska.ru/article.php?nid=19655
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/776/adct866.jpeg
      1. goose
        goose April 21 2015 17: 11
        +4
        I don’t understand on what grounds the Turks deny genocide: there are numerous eyewitness accounts, documents, etc. facts. Or do they believe that if without crowds of water, food, and medicine, crowds of people are driven for weeks under the scorching sun for 30-40 degrees, then someone can survive? I understand that I do not want to admit, but on what basis? I have never heard.
        There is no analogy with the uneducated moron Yeltsin, who took the blame of others on the people of Russia as a whole, only to bend deeper. In his amateurism, he caught up with Khrushchev, but he was half normal in the sense of morality.
        1. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik April 22 2015 11: 42
          +1
          Well, if everything is so clear, why is Armenia refusing the international commission? Why is it not going to open archives? Do you even know how many Armenians were beaten on the ground in 1915?)
      2. sem_juver
        sem_juver April 22 2015 19: 48
        0
        This is normal for Turkish Azeris. To destroy so many people, no matter what faith they are, deny it for a century, set a day when people who are killed will remember and commemorate the holiday, and even order festive restaurants. It says a lot that you are Turks. People have to be.
  17. Babr
    Babr April 21 2015 16: 06
    +1
    Something reminds. The Armenian Genocide.
    Oh yes! The Holocaust.
    Well, no, to them you, as to the moon on foot. tongue
  18. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 21 2015 16: 06
    +4
    The state reserve is sufficient this time.
    The second oil price is rising right now.
    And thirdly, they will start to take less away and the money that they invested in large infrastructure projects has already been paid. Everything will be fine.

    Not convincing even once.
    About the gold reserves have already said, not the fact that it will turn out to dispose of all of them.
    Oil prices are twitching.
    That money will not be withdrawn, but will be invested in infrastructure, time will tell. Profit is long to wait from infrastructure projects, and it is not high, as the rules are indirect. In this case, I'm not talking about the gas pipeline.
    So, not "everything is great".
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 24
      0
      Quote: fzr1000
      That money will not be withdrawn, but will be invested in infrastructure, time will tell. Profit is long to wait from infrastructure projects, and it is not high, as the rules are indirect. In this case, I'm not talking about the gas pipeline.

      Azerbaijan didn’t withdraw money, like Russia did, investing in Turkey, more precisely buying up its oil complex, building new cereal oil complexes. The rest was invested in Azerbaijan.
      There were large infrastructure plans, the main phase of which has already been completed.
      So that everything is fine, but don’t grab and run, as the separatist writes in his article.

      You have to be more objective. The media is a very terrible thing, my friends outside of Russia think that we will soon eat each other here. Of course I say, as it is, there are certain problems, but all the rules.
      The situation in Azerbaijan is similar, I know perfectly well that the article there is also a lie.
  19. falcon
    falcon April 21 2015 16: 17
    +2
    The article is somehow muddy. All in one pile - and the devaluation of the manat and gas,
    and the genocide of Armenians. And some points are generally inexplicable. That author writes
    that the country's foreign exchange reserves as of March 31.03 were 9.47 billion dollars, then
    mentions that, according to some reports, they amount to 50 billion dollars. Oh, about
    that foreign banks do not return this money - this is generally a "gem"!
    How is it technically possible not to return the money? They are on the correspondent accounts
    and you can dispose of them at any time at the request of the bank owner corr.
    account.
    So, I think, from an article a mile away it carries "zakazukhoi". Ah, that's what
    It’s actually happening in Azerbaijan, it’s better for forum users under
    ask the azerbaijan flag.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 31
      +2
      Quote: falcon
      Ah, that's what
      It’s actually happening in Azerbaijan, it’s better for forum users under
      ask the azerbaijan flag.

      It’s always better to turn to the original source. And then people are really enraged that they don’t know anything and, having read one article by the separatist, they draw XNUMX% conclusions for themselves and vigorously prove them.
  20. mihasik
    mihasik April 21 2015 16: 17
    +2
    I was able to do this:
    Ilham Aliyev loudly assured all citizens that no devaluation is planned. And three days after the devaluation, the president called this step deliberate and necessary, which for many has become monstrous. Pensions, salaries, and scholarships were discounted by 30%.

    How! And how much are pensions, salaries and scholarships depreciated in our country due to inflation and the pegging of prices for domestic products to the dollar? 50% or 100%? What can I say: "Medvedev-Foreva!"
    By the way, our president also reassured everyone in the fall. And what happened in December?
  21. topicrange
    topicrange April 21 2015 16: 19
    -1
    I warned Azerbaijan, guys Vika Nulland is coming to you, wait for a surprise ... and he did not take long to wait: inflation, devaluation and so on on the list.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 32
      +2
      Quote: topicrange
      inflation, devaluation and so on on the list.

      Yes, what does IT ?????
      Oil collapsed, and here are the results of some points that are too exaggerated in this article.
  22. Samarskiy
    Samarskiy April 21 2015 16: 22
    +1
    Their prezik spun, as in a frying pan))
    Let him think faster, otherwise their embankment in Baku is ideal for a walk for a couple of battalions of "polite people"
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 33
      0
      Quote: Samarskiy
      Let him think faster, otherwise their embankment in Baku is ideal for a walk for a couple of battalions of "polite people"

      Send, there they will be drowned in the Caspian. There were 26 such polite people in Baku who called XNUMX commissars, they are huddled at the bottom of the Caspian. Zhdes))
      1. Victorio
        Victorio April 21 2015 17: 06
        +4
        Quote: Yeraz
        Quote: Samarskiy
        Let him think faster, otherwise their embankment in Baku is ideal for a walk for a couple of battalions of "polite people"

        Send, there they will be drowned in the Caspian. There were 26 such polite people in Baku who called XNUMX commissars, they are huddled at the bottom of the Caspian. Zhdes))


        Well, well, you call it courage, so why is Armenian Karabakh? give the impression of an adult sane person, and stand on their hind legs in those cases when you need to, if not accept, then at least keep silent
      2. Samarskiy
        Samarskiy April 21 2015 18: 05
        -1
        Initially, this comment was different) No matter who lies where. Cases of the past years. Today Azerbaijan is in the sphere of interests of Russia. Under the USSR, too much was invested in this region before. So no one will let Azerbaijan go anywhere. Not to Iran, nor to Turkey.))
        1. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik April 22 2015 11: 28
          +2
          Arrogance and arrogance .... I do not think that some state can achieve much on these qualities.
      3. Sergelis
        Sergelis April 21 2015 22: 04
        0
        Yeraz, your comments are clear, as are your feelings.
        But here are 26 Baku commissars - this has never been done by Azerbaijanis, this is the period of the British occupation.
        And among the executed there were Azerbaijanis
    2. Yabobylev
      Yabobylev April 21 2015 16: 55
      0
      Is it charged between the ears?
    3. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 22 2015 11: 34
      +2
      If you are our enemy, then it is God's grace ... because it is a huge advantage when your enemy is a "high intellectual level table".
  23. apro
    apro April 21 2015 16: 36
    +1
    We love to challenge other people's difficulties, although we cook in one dollar boiler and need to break out together. My opinion, if you choose Armenia or Azerbaijan, then for me it’s easier for me with Baku than with Yerevan, which has ambitions above the roof and always has it in mind, wants to solve Russian hands their problems. There are many more points of contact with Baku than with Yerevan and the Aliyev clan is quite sane and programmatic.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 16: 42
      0
      Quote: apro
      There are many more points of contact with Baku than with Yerevan, and the Aliyev clan is quite sane and programmatic.

      The main part of the audience will not agree with you. Yes, and the policy of the Russian Federation proves this. Only we need to remember Aliyev is not eternal. And with the next, even with a greater desire, it will be impossible to come to an agreement. We need to resolve issues in time.
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik April 22 2015 11: 09
        +1
        That's right, the next question will become an edge about the pseudo-state of Armenia in the South Caucasus.
      2. Samarskiy
        Samarskiy April 24 2015 09: 26
        0
        We will agree. The army is big. There are a lot of guns.
    2. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 22 2015 11: 22
      0
      You are right, but I think Russia is lagging behind in terms of geopolitical thinking. Alliance Russia-Azerbaijan-Iran could create a "Chinese wall" from the Barents Sea to the Persian Gulf. It is a pity that drunk Yeltsin did not listen to Aliyev senior.
  24. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok April 21 2015 17: 01
    +3
    The Armenian Genocide is still a sore subject for some. Moreover, the Armenians clearly remember everything. 1915 Armenians were saved from genocide (final) by Russian Cossacks under the command of Kaledin. They did not let the Turks in until the Armenians evacuated from the villages. What they could, as Christ ordered .... For more, there was no command.
    1. vikingost
      vikingost April 23 2015 16: 10
      +1
      Genosid Armyan Eto Mif..eto Armyanskie Voorujennie Banditi Rezali Mirnix Turkov
  25. Sorokin
    Sorokin April 21 2015 17: 07
    -1
    I don’t know anything about the Armenian Genocide. But he stood in Yekheknadzor 1988. They both shot. Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, even though cigarettes were also customized for our block. But the Meskhetian Turks and Crimean Tatars from Uzbekistan were resettled in Azerbaijan and the Crimea in the same 88. Both of them were shot in 45 were identified. Now flogged. We want our houses back. Stalin settled Russia will answer. All questions to the government of Turkey which did not allow you to drown in the Black Sea in 1946.
  26. faterdom
    faterdom April 21 2015 17: 31
    +2
    They will make a weak link from Azerbaijan in Transcaucasia, for which, having created economic problems, they will try to arrange an Azerbaijani spring with an Islamist bias.
    The Americans hinted to Aliyev quite opaque about the possibility of a color revolution. And all this is in line with drawing Russia now through the CSTO into a new massacre between Armenians and Azerbaijanis (there have been several attempts last year to rekindle this old smoldering conflict). Simultaneously with some events in Central Asia (see diplomatic container to Kyrgyzstan).
    Since the economic and strategic projects of the Americans with the Azerbaijanis failed somewhat (Nabucco), and the emerging rapprochement between Russia and Iran (where the majority of ethnic Azerbaijanis live), and Turkey threatens to lose the foothold of the United States in the Caucasus (Georgia, drifting from adventurous-fitt policy to some rationality, though forced).
    So, it’s a boom to hope that Aliyev is a strong leader and will be able to keep the internal situation under control (he won’t turn out to be Yanukovych, it’s not accepted in the East), and he will decide on his multi-vector nature, because it’s time to choose who to be with.
    This is in addition to the fact that in Russia there is also a very significant and influential diaspora of the Azerbaijani people, whose influence and comfort will also depend on this.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 17: 53
      +1
      Quote: faterdom
      They will make a weak link from Azerbaijan in Transcaucasia, for which, having created economic problems, they will try to arrange an Azerbaijani spring with an Islamist bias.

      Nationalists and Islamists will step forward. The two most active and most important are ready to take radical measures.
      Quote: faterdom
      Since the economic and strategic projects of the Americans with the Azerbaijanis failed somewhat (Nabucco), and the emerging rapprochement between Russia and Iran (where the majority of ethnic Azerbaijanis live), and Turkey threatens to lose the foothold of the United States in the Caucasus (Georgia, drifting from adventurous-fitt policy to some rationality, though forced).

      There will be no rapprochement in any case. Since there is the problem of Karabakh and Armenia behind Russia, which is why Russia will not change its policy, there will be cooperation in different formats, but not strategic rapprochement.
      Quote: faterdom
      This is in addition to the fact that in Russia there is also a very significant and influential diaspora of the Azerbaijani people, whose influence and comfort will also depend on this.

      This diaspora has a ZERO influence !! I know all the leaders of these diasporas, former gangsters or rogues who are under a dense kalpak of the power structures of the Russian Federation, which cover them. Their influence is zero on the Azerbaijanis living in the Russian Federation and especially on Azerbaijan itself.
      1. faterdom
        faterdom April 21 2015 18: 18
        +2
        "By no means" is too categorical. History is going on rapidly, and cases, of which it was difficult to imagine before, spring up like mushrooms after rain.
        As for the diaspora: I understand, it touched a living, but its influence is not very zero, and control of many markets in Russia and dragging numerous relatives here. sending money home. It is also, such a mass of active people, being suddenly expelled (and legally) capable of making a very serious drop in the destabilization of the situation in Azerbaijan.
        As, by the way, we also live for a long time under the sword of Damocles that the long-planned US-Israeli attack on Iran could, due to a gigantic wave of refugees through the Caucasus to Russia (up to 30 million according to forecasts), seriously and permanently destabilize our country.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 21 2015 19: 30
          +1
          Quote: faterdom
          but its influence is not very zero, and the control of many markets in Russia

          On the people and the situation in Azerbaijan, zero.
          Quote: faterdom
          dragging numerous relatives here. sending money home


          According to Vesti.Az, Elena Kuzmina, head of the economic development sector of the post-Soviet countries of the Center for Post-Soviet Studies of the Institute of Economics of the RAS, shared this information in her report in Sochi.

          According to her, at the same time personal transfers of Azerbaijani migrants do not play a significant role in the economy of Azerbaijan.

          “This is because that the volume of remittances received in Azerbaijan does not exceed 3% of GDP, ” she remarked.

          For comparison, the expert noted that in Armenia, migrant transfers account for 20% of GDP, in Georgia 11%.

          Quote: faterdom
          such a mass of active people, being suddenly expelled (and legally) can make a very serious drop to the destabilization of the situation in Azerbaijan.

          Most of these people have long been citizens of the Russian Federation !! I and all my relatives are citizens of the Russian Federation. Love for Azerbaijan and the willingness to fight for it comes only from our blood !! How are you going to deprive me and my relatives of citizenship ?? We don’t have any other. who without citizenship have long been a minority and do not play any role.
          When one of my acquaintances was deported from Azerbaijan, to her amazement they say I was an Azerbaijani, they told her your passport is red, not green, so download the rights THERE!
          Quote: faterdom
          As, by the way, we also live for a long time under the sword of Damocles that the long-planned US-Israeli attack on Iran could, due to a gigantic wave of refugees through the Caucasus to Russia (up to 30 million according to forecasts), seriously and permanently destabilize our country.

          I am for such an outcome, of course the consequences will be difficult, but they will be torn out of the cap of the Iranian regime and will strengthen the situation of Azerbaijan in the future.

          In the meantime, the Azerbaijani authorities are doing this:

          Azerbaijanis banned frequent trips to Iran
          21 April 2015, 16: 24

          Azerbaijani citizens banned from traveling to Iran more than twice a month, Radio Liberty reports. A similar ban has already been introduced at the Bilasuvar customs station.



          According to information, earlier Azerbaijani citizens had the right to cross the border once a week. In the near future, this innovation is being prepared to be adopted at the customs point in Astara.

          The reasons for this ban are still unknown.

          Recall that in 2009, official Tehran unilaterally abolished the visa regime for Azerbaijani citizens, while Iranian citizens require a visa to enter Azerbaijan.
  27. toad
    toad April 21 2015 19: 27
    0
    Another conflict on the border with Russia. You cannot refuse professionalism to the Statesmen. Where do not stick from everywhere, star-striped ears stick out. As if between these ears and pile a bunch.
  28. GDV
    GDV April 21 2015 20: 26
    -1
    Quote: Yeraz
    There is no conflict, we are better, we are cooler, which infuriates others in relations with Russia.


    Dear, you only show that you are greedy for flattery and no more, words or deeds are all, ask yourself if the Turks have a choice - they or you, as you think, they will sacrifice themselves for you.
    There is no need to build illusions: - if, for example, the United States wants to arrange something like the one in Ukraine for you, I think the Turks will not object, I think they will also hold a candle, and come on with joyful cries.
    The East is the case, whoever is stronger is right for you. And the one behind whom the truth is right.
    Do not teach us how to live, and I won’t tell you where to go.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 21 2015 21: 22
      -2
      Quote: GDV
      ask yourself if the Turks have a choice - they or you, do you think they will sacrifice themselves for you.

      Turks, yes, but the current Turkish government does not, like Azerbaijan. Since the pro-Arab Erdogan is in power in one, Aliyev is thinking about her clan in the other.
      Quote: GDV
      No need to build illusions

      I know one thing, after the collapse of tsarist Russia, when the armed Armenians slaughtered Muslims of Azerbaijan regardless of the nation, the Turkish army saved us, ADR was created thanks to the Turkish army !! But then they were forced to retreat and give Azerbaijan advice to preserve their republic, but this is normal and all of this is known in Azerbaijan, Turkey is not omnipotent and as much as possible, what can it do for Azerbaijan and we all understand and look soberly.
      Quote: GDV
      if, for example, the United States wants to arrange something like the one in Ukraine,

      And what did they do to remove the thief and the bandit ?? So, I’ll tell you, many in Azerbaijan will be glad of this. The views on the situation with Ukraine are completely different. And if in Azerbaijan the ultra-nationalist forces will take their place today !! Europeanization, Russification and Arabization of the population. We are Türks and I am for Türkism. Erdogan is crushing at home, Aliev is at home, Nazarbayev is at home. But these forces will make themselves felt, because at the moment of danger for the republic they will come forward Bozqurdlar (Gray Wolves) and these will flee to Moscow, maybe, besides Erdogan, his beloved Palestine will receive him.
      1. faterdom
        faterdom April 21 2015 21: 53
        +5
        Everything is clear with you. Pan-Turkism in a neglected form. The ideology is strong and tenacious, it is useless to argue.
        Only now the Americans will play this ideology in vain, just like Wahhabism, they got it out of the dust of the Middle Ages and forced it to work for American interests.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 21 2015 22: 51
          0
          Quote: faterdom
          Only now the Americans will play this ideology in vain, just like Wahhabism, they got it out of the dust of the Middle Ages and forced it to work for American interests.

          maybe they will play, maybe not, maybe Russia will play this or Iran. Anything can be. Or maybe no one will play or minimally. We can guess. And we will learn about the events after its end.
      2. IS-80
        IS-80 April 22 2015 00: 14
        +3
        Quote: Yeraz
        And what did they do to remove the thief and the bandit ?? So, I’ll tell you, many in Azerbaijan will be glad of this. The views on the situation with Ukraine are completely different. And if in Azerbaijan the ultra-nationalist forces will take their place today !! Europeanization, Russification and Arabization of the population. We are Türks and I am for Türkism. Erdogan is crushing at home, Aliev is at home, Nazarbayev is at home. But these forces will make themselves felt, because at the moment of danger for the republic they will come forward Bozqurdlar (Gray Wolves) and these will flee to Moscow, maybe, besides Erdogan, his beloved Palestine will receive him.


        Yeraz, and who came in return? To remind you? See then do not regret it. And then suddenly it turns out that you are not enough Turks. Well or zradnik. You probably do not have enough war in Azerbaijan? Well, yes, but you don’t have to run to the hero, you have already run away. laughing
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 23 2015 03: 46
          +1
          Quote: IS-80
          And then suddenly it turns out that you are not enough Turks.

          I know my pedigree. Purebred.
          Quote: IS-80
          You probably do not have enough war in Azerbaijan? Well, yes, but you don’t have to run to the hero, you have already run away.

          Escaped? I didn’t run anywhere. I’ll run only in one direction, if the war starts in my historical homeland, then I’ll quickly run there.
      3. Sorokin
        Sorokin April 24 2015 19: 53
        +1
        You know, Mr. Turky. We do not really like such characters! Did you show a little? Azov to you in one place. I in one turn dismantled the very steep Oglu and Kyzy from the CWPT, I don’t really respect Usati it hurts. And so my 2 yur brother, speckled by father Ogly, will catch up. He also does not like you. purchased.
  29. Oquz
    Oquz April 21 2015 21: 14
    +1
    everything will be OK! but only after 2 years ..... while you need to survive the Olympics in these crisis days .....
  30. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel April 21 2015 21: 19
    +1
    Well that’s it, Kamarads, get ready for the Baku Maidan! Amerikosy identified another weak link near Russia. And what is typical, foreign exchange reserves in foreign banks lie, and no one is going to get them out and transfer them to the owners. In time, the late Chavez cashed in and brought the Venezuelan gold and currency home. As, by the way, nobody will touch the German Zolotishko in Yusov’s banks. 21st century pirates, however.
  31. Sargon
    Sargon April 22 2015 08: 28
    -1
    Pan-Turkism as an ideology may be strong, but integration between Turkey and Azerbaijan is really possible. Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks, not to mention the Turkmens, will not give up their sovereignty to education, where Turkey will play the leading role. The Turkmens have drifted away from everyone and imagine themselves to be such a non-aligned Switzerland, and while they have gas it is possible. Uzbeks, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz have more internal contradictions than feelings of kinship. So, the Kazakhs consider themselves more advanced than the Kyrgyz and Uzbeks (partly fair), they envy them in places, but generally say that if they had oil, they would live no worse. In general, there are more chances for unification under the auspices of Russia than for unification under the auspices of Turkey. All the same, more than a thousand years have passed since the time of the Turkic Kaganate, and only 25 since the USSR.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 22 2015 15: 44
      +1
      Quote: Sargon
      In general, there are more chances for unification under the auspices of Russia than for unification under the auspices of Turkey.

      it is this unification that is simply unification, without turning into a single nation.
      And no one talks about the unification of all the Türks. All the same, the national self-awareness is different for everyone.
      There should be a cultural association until the Cossack looks at the Uzbek, as a conditionally Almaty citizen, at a resident of Astana, i.e. the feeling of one blood and unity of simply different places, the connection will only be to the detriment. Because with any mistake everyone will poke at the other. We are disconnected, our consciousness. And until it is united, a single state utopia.
    2. Sorokin
      Sorokin April 24 2015 20: 10
      0
      Quote: Sargon
      Pan-Turkism as an ideology may be strong, but integration between Turkey and Azerbaijan is really possible. Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks, not to mention the Turkmens, will not give up their sovereignty to education, where Turkey will play the leading role. The Turkmens have drifted away from everyone and imagine themselves to be such a non-aligned Switzerland, and while they have gas it is possible. Uzbeks, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz have more internal contradictions than feelings of kinship. So, the Kazakhs consider themselves more advanced than the Kyrgyz and Uzbeks (partly fair), they envy them in places, but generally say that if they had oil, they would live no worse. In general, there are more chances for unification under the auspices of Russia than for unification under the auspices of Turkey. All the same, more than a thousand years have passed since the time of the Turkic Kaganate, and only 25 since the USSR.

      TE, you think that Uzbeks; Ketliks; Kirghiz; lack of ethics; By the way, cotton is not where the gunpowder is. And Kazakhs is the oil salt of the earth?
  32. Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 22 2015 11: 00
    +1
    The author is a well-known come-and he has brains at an impasse. He sees what he wants for reality ... and for some here drooling, wipe and forget! We can be friends or be allies with someone but we will not be an outpost for them. And yet, for those who don’t know, Azerbaijan influences Turkish internal and external no less than vice versa.
    1. Samarskiy
      Samarskiy April 24 2015 08: 40
      0
      Tell it in Ankara, they’ll laugh there)))
  33. galic_25
    galic_25 April 22 2015 13: 25
    0
    Everything is clear with you. Pan-Turkism in a neglected form. The ideology is strong and tenacious, it is useless to argue.
    Only now the Americans will play this ideology in vain, just like Wahhabism, they got it out of the dust of the Middle Ages and forced it to work for American interests.

    THE TRUE TRUTH, EVERYTHING GOES ON THE AMERICAN SCENARIO!
    1. Samarskiy
      Samarskiy April 24 2015 08: 42
      0
      +1
      It is worth taking a closer look at the Azerbaijani living in Russia.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 24 2015 13: 22
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        Quote: Samarskiy
        It is worth taking a closer look at the Azerbaijani living in Russia.

        What are they looking at? The heads of the diaspora are billionaires controlled by the FSB, and ordinary people, he is ordinary people. Even with Russian citizenship, they will not go far in the civil service, especially in the power structures, there are limitations, this applies to other Muslims of the Caucasus, Ossetians are freer in this plan.
        As a matter of fact, Azerbaijanis are widely represented in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, these are precincts and opera. You rarely see Armenians.
        But the prosecutor’s office is the patrimony of the Armenians.
  34. Sorokin
    Sorokin April 24 2015 20: 20
    0
    Quote: Yeraz
    Quote: Samarskiy
    It is worth taking a closer look at the Azerbaijani living in Russia.

    What are they looking at? The heads of the diaspora are billionaires controlled by the FSB, and ordinary people, he is ordinary people. Even with Russian citizenship, they will not go far in the civil service, especially in the power structures, there are limitations, this applies to other Muslims of the Caucasus, Ossetians are freer in this plan.
    As a matter of fact, Azerbaijanis are widely represented in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, these are precincts and opera. You rarely see Armenians.
    But the prosecutor’s office is the patrimony of the Armenians.

    I agree, but in part. It is necessary to have more than two generations. In Russia. And so the Armenians are not bad and sordid opera. Alik Karapetyan hello brother!