"Poison anti-Russian" in Ukraine

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"Poison anti-Russian" in Ukraine

This is how the Ukrainian “fighters for independence” spray 20 for years with the deadly “anti-Russian poison” over the heads of our people in Ukraine. And it must be clearly understood in order to have time to produce an effective antidote!

Incredible pain covers every thinking person, when in life he is faced with examples of Russian-Ukrainian reality. Because it is a very special reality - one in which such phenomena as the Russian-Ukrainian border are quite possible according to the fate of living people, or the recent ruling of the Ukrainian Constitutional Court, supported by the pro-Russian president (?), In which the banner of the Great Victory is outlawed . Everything that personifies this exceptionally special, incomparable, unusually emphasized, contemptuous and boorish attitude to everything Russian belongs to this reality. And this attitude entered everyday life, became its integral part and filled it with its content. And therefore it is not surprising that with such content the Russian-Ukrainian partnership causes very complex, inexplicable feelings - from sincere bewilderment to complete human despair. And what feelings can arise when in our public consciousness an integral image of some deep, sacred concept — that which is our given, identifies us — is being destroyed in an artificial way and so cynically and purposefully?

This is not new in life, when, for whatever reason, something unites into several fragments, and a very painful process of forming a new reality takes place. It is clear that the Russian world is subjected to a perfidious, carefully planned intervention, and these processes shape its difficult fate, drawing it into artificial, contrived ideas and dogmas that have nothing in common with the Russian World. This happens at the very time when other civilizations display irrepressible strivings for unity, unity, and integrity. This artificially created phenomenon requires a very serious understanding from us.

Pseudoscience for false scientists

“Since the goal of Ukrainians is negative, it’s
breaking a single national culture
Russian tribes, then I do not consider him
a cultural movement, I consider it
nasty culture, and already on these
reasons I am not a supporter
Ukrainians. "

From the last word of the deputy
The Austrian Parliament and the Galician Seym D.A. Markov

History would have every chance of becoming an exact science if, in the process of the development of society, it was not a matter of manipulation. But alas! You can't call it exact science today. The problem is that we have exactly as many stories as benefits from its rewriting. So they write - who is in that much, in pursuit of short-term political, or some other benefit, without thinking about the consequences. This consumer approach has been known for a long time and attracted the attention of thinkers of different eras. It happens this way: an idea that is absolutely scholastic, not supported by facts and evidential base, arises in some inflamed brain. Then, as an assumption, it is picked up in narrow circles, where it is enriched with even more speculation and myths, and after some time it is given out for pure truth and the real reality is adjusted to it and the historical fate of a huge mass of living people is formed.

The brightest of such examples is the short history of the country, in spite of everything that continues its strange existence - Ukraine. And the paradox is that, on the one hand, it is possible to give examples for as long as you wish, that in the depths of time, until the second half of the 19th century, neither such people, Ukrainians, nor such land, the territorial-geographical concept Ukraine had never existed. That is, Ukraine was, but in the Slavic world, Ukraine with an accent on the first syllable was called a certain border area, the limit, the line beyond which another territory began. And this, you see, very different things. On the other hand, the real Ukraine and the real Ukrainians are not fiction, but an absolutely real reality! And this reality is peculiar: Ukraine and Ukrainians are there, but there is no future! Not because someone interferes and does not give, but because, by definition, there is no place for him, there is no future! And there is a natural doubt: something is wrong here ...

In the historical documents, we will never meet Ukraine, there is Russia, only Russia is everywhere! Russia as a single territorial-geographical concept, Rusich, Russians, Rusyns - as a single ethnos. Yes, Russia is diverse - Black Russia, White Russia, Great Russia and Little Russia. As you can see, there are many names, but one meaning. And the value is unity! Unity is spiritual, cultural, mental, formed over the centuries. But what is unity for pseudoscience? Therefore, we have the misfortune to see that Russia is Small, as it was called in ancient times in all European documents, Russiae Minorum (Latin) is renamed Ukraine and is endowed with a completely different historical fate. But Russia is Small (minorum), it does not mean derogatory and diminutive, but quite the opposite! Small - this means the original, primary source, spring, maternal womb, which gave life to the sacred, sacred concept of Russia, Russia. How can all this be Ukraine? After all, if someone suddenly decides to call our planet Mars, it does not at all mean that we suddenly all become Martians! And we are allowed to call our cradle is not knowing what a meaningful word and look forward to, what will be our happiness? It is like changing your proud name for some kind of click and, under this guise, running around for a money transfer and sincerely wondering why it is not being issued to you ...

Great, diverse Russia experienced different times, epochs of ups and downs, disagreements, troubles and struggles, and of course the triumph of victories. But, no matter how complicated her path was, she was always and everywhere aware of a single spiritual tradition — the Orthodox and Russian linguistic traditions. And after repeated attempts to subjugate Russia with the help of a knightly sword ended in failure, it became obvious to our enemies that nothing could be achieved by force, other methods are needed. And it must be said that historically it happened that in the 19th century Black Russia - Galicia remained under the cultural influence of Poland, that part of Poland, which was later occupied by Austria-Hungary. But all this time, a part that seemed to be divorced from its maternal Russian ethnic group did not lose its spiritual and cultural connection with it.

After the failure of the Polish uprising 1863 of the year, and Poland, its largest part, was then part of the Russian Empire, anti-Russian sentiments were so reactionary that representatives of the Galician Russian youth and intelligentsia fell into their turbulent flow. This was how a marginal idea about the Ukrainian people was sucked from the finger, supposedly having nothing in common with the Russian people. The idea turned out to be so tenacious that in the shortest possible time it turned into a turbulent current, the whirlpool of which dragged in enormous intellectual forces, which, with sufficient funding from Poland and then Austria-Hungary, concocted the Ukrainian language at an accelerated pace. His task was to show an exceptional difference from the Russian language, so the spelling of the Little Russian dialect of the Russian language was deliberately changed beyond recognition, he was obviously further enhanced by Polonism, the words of other European languages, or simply invented in the most unimaginable way. It got to the point that there was such an idea - to translate the Newspeak into Latin spelling, and only the indignation of the masses saved the people from such a step. In parallel, and just as quickly, culture was being created, history was being rewritten, and even in the spiritual sphere, fierce pressure was being put on — the so-called Uniate Church was imposed on the people, who had nothing to do with Orthodoxy.

As we can see, there was a typical case when a notorious heresy, stuffed with pseudo-scientific dogmas and myths, was artificially turned into an anti-system, contrary to common sense. The task of this anti-system was to destroy! The betrayal, hypocrisy, unjustified by any beautiful words of cruelty and blatant lie - this was the solemn opening of the Ukraine project, an exceptionally revealing phenomenon of inflamed human consciousness. Is it not so if even when he was treated like an exalted priduri, from historical monograms, documents with a root were torn out pages in which there was even the slightest mention of Russian affiliation. There was a substitution of concepts - everything that was Little-Russian, Galician, was renamed Ukrainian, as well as the historian N. S. Trubetskaya gives an example in his monographs how he found books on Russian history in the Belgrade Historical Library, in which all the words Russian, Russian and etc. they were simply crossed out by hand in ink and signed by hand - Ukrainian, Ukrainian. And the monstrous examples of the Austrian concentration camps Talerhof and Terezin in 1914-1916, where people accepted martyrdom only for their Russian name, is this an example of WHAT?

“All the barbarities of the famous
We felt the “culture-triggers” of the Germans
deeply but what they experienced from their
persons transformed from Rusyns into "Ukrainians"
it is quite ... fit the saying ...
“The person hurts the most if he bites him
own dog ... "

Priest Henry Polyansky, prisoner of the camp "Talerhof"

"Who uses the Russian language can not be
good austrian: good austrians
are only Ukrainians, so all members of the Russian
people's party - traitors, because they are not Ukrainians "

Lawyer F.Vagno, Vienna

I want to emphasize that history only turns into a scientific value, when in the process of a historical series of events and dates its specific meaning is traced. It is this meaning that is the main historical moral idea, because it is capable of explaining a great deal, dotting i, revealing the truth and even using historical experience, avoiding tragic mistakes. In this regard, let us ask ourselves a natural question: What is the point in the existence of the Ukraine project? Until now, no one has received a clear sane answer to this question, and indeed, no one asks anyone about this specifically. There is yourself and everything. And its existence is presented to us as a matter of course. Moreover, svidomye patriots thinkers provided Ukraine with a thousand-year history and declared it the cradle of human civilization. That is, wishful thinking was given. And this is the basic meaning - a lie.

In the sacred list of liberated nations
"We, the good gentlemen, do not care about the Russian people!
First of all, the world revolution is important for us ... "

(From the speech of V.I. Lenin)

The truth was told by Ilyich, he felt sincere and uneasy feelings towards the Russian people, as clearly shown by the results of his titanic work ... A large-scale man thought! To destroy the old was not enough. It was necessary to build something new. Revolutionary messianism encompassed all spheres of social and political life and the idea of ​​liberation from autocracy among the nations turned out to be the way. The territory of the country was divided into national-territorial administrative districts, called republics. The Ukrainian SSR turned out to be one of them, while its territory was significantly enlarged due to the southern lands of the Azov Sea.

Galician, Polish-Austrian miserable, but despicable idea of ​​Ukrainianness was taken as the basis of national construction. A very tragic period of total Ukrainization began. People were recorded by Ukrainians, the Ukrainian language was implanted in educational institutions — the very one otrivtovanny ... The people at first fiercely resisted, but having understood all the hopelessness of their position, they simply passively ignored all Ukrainian innovations. The people continued to speak in Russian, to think in Russian, to read in Russian. Then, several thousand Ukrainians (!) Were recruited from Galicia, who joined the education and management system and, under the strict guidance of L. Kaganovich, did a great deal to erode the Russian spirit from the Little Russian territories. And by the 30 years, when the pressure of Ukrainization had weakened somewhat, it became obvious that it was impossible to destroy the Russian spirit among the people. And this is evidenced by the whole history of the Ukrainian SSR, where all the years of Soviet power had to exert titanic efforts in order to maintain artificially the level of Ukrainization of the population. Huge funds were invested in Ukrainian literature, art, science, but the people preferred to read Russian, watch Russian, study in Russian schools.

Thus, the entire Soviet history of the Ukrainian language and everything connected with it exclusively occupied the niche of the Ukrainian rural hinterland and a narrow stratum of zealous enthusiasts-enthusiasts, and the people simply got used to their Ukrainian name, because it could not prevent them from realizing their involvement in Russian World.

It can be concluded that the national problems of the USSR were laid when it was created, and all the years of its existence, they only matured and waited in the wings. But Ilyich was warned by his comrades-in-arms that a rude intervention in the national foundations, all these national experiments, could end very badly. But, based on his deep feelings for the Russian people, everything is quite natural ... And the problem is not that Little Russia was turned into Ukraine, but the fact that the Ukraine project was created as Anti-Russia. And for natural reasons, it cannot be used as a basis for state-building where a strong state is planned. After all, his calling is to destroy! So, it was pre-experimented before the 1991 of the year ... And therefore the national composition of those present in the Bialowieza Forest is quite natural - Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian ... Does this mean anything to you? The union is indestructible, however ...

The case of Lenin-Stalin selflessly loyal!

The appeals of the so-called patriots of independent Ukraine are very touching to fight the totalitarian socialist past. Fight with what and with whom? To be objective, the Ukrainian patriotic forces, as well as the Ukrainian authorities, should not spit on Lenin-Stalin, but glorify them, build monuments to them, or, at worst, hang their portraits with Ukrainian touching embroidered towels.

Moreover, because they continue the Leninsko-Stalin's hopeless deed of Ukrainianness and in this creative field are like-minded people rather than opponents. But alas, the miserable "Svidomo" Ukrainian fool turned out to be so ungrateful as it was greedy. Under the universal groan of the Ukrainian curses, for twenty years now, an indescribable sawing and hauling around the entire Soviet noble inheritance has been carried out at Kurkul corners. And what inheritance !!! Ukraine entered an independent voyage with a nuclear power, with an army in size and armament, one of the most powerful in Europe, with highly developed industrial energy, metallurgy, mechanical engineering, shipbuilding, chemical industry, aviation, defense industry, space industry, rocket engineering, electronics, the highest level science, education. For the 1991 period of the year, hundreds of high-tech high-tech high-tech users worked and developed in Ukraine and new ones were built. And where today, after 20 years of independence, is it all? WHERE?

But I want to talk about something else. The most tragic and incomparable loss is the loss of one’s good name, one’s essence, one’s beginning, one’s being.

Anything material is quite possible to establish, recreate, restore, strain and create a new one. But the loss, the rejection of his Russian name puts the newly-minted country in a dead end position. And above all, the problem is that it is impossible to build a modern state building on the Ukrainian foundation. After all, an independent Ukraine did not think of anything more than to disgust to abandon its historical heritage. She disassociated herself from everything Russian and has repeatedly demonstrated that from now on she is not inspired by either all-Russian values ​​or a rich all-Russian great cultural heritage. Ukraine now has its own home-grown history, where the pantheon of pride of the so-called nation consists of unsuccessful losers, traitors, crooks and mentally ill people. This list is unpleasant for me to even list ...

But this is today's reality! These little people, or rather their portraits are hung in all Ukrainian schools and children are forced to cram their biographies, and they are brought up on their "glorious" examples. That is, a glaring thing has happened - a huge layer of historical memory has been cleaned up, and this emptiness in the sphere of values ​​and national symbols must be filled with something. And what if Ukraine has no independent traditions of state-building, and national-Ukrainian treasures in the form of Taras Shevchenko with a heavy unkind eye and the poetry of a bloodthirsty ghoul are a dubious legacy. Well, still hopak, Ukrainian wreaths, ribbons, rushnichki, and then what? Where national-Ukrainian was not enough, it was filled with western postmodernism. It turned out a layer of cake from the savagery of Ukrainians and elements of Western culture with the "high" values ​​of the consumer society.

Today’s Ukraine with its deranged ambitions (as the classic said: for a million - ambitions, for pennies - ammunition) - is a kind of cart drawn by a pair of skinny oxen, but on which the emblem of the Ferrari car brightly glistens, and in the pocket of an expressive horseman, dressed in a frayed jeans, embroidered Ukrainian shirt and a secular tuxedo, hidden sincere, expressive dule. A strange sight ...

Russian against Russian, or kill a Russian in your head against the wall!

If we delve into the complex Ukrainian processes in more detail, we will see for ourselves that with manic crying wildness, the first hope that is still able to leave the last hope to the people who have wandered into a complicated labyrinth, which binds it, despite all the madness and bile, with its Russian beginning. After all, to be objective, the Russian language, as the main thread of this connection, as the mother tongue for the majority of the country's population, for twenty years has not bothered not only some, albeit modest, development, it is driven into a humiliating, highly offensive situation - language minority!

A good minority - Russian is native to 70% of the country's population! Russian schools, so numerous under Soviet rule, have become very rare in present-day Ukraine, and he himself, the Russian great and powerful language, has become a bargaining chip in Ukrainian political rat fuss, in which, in order to break through to the coveted power, half of political dealers promise one part of the divided Ukrainian people, which will give it a decent status of the state language, and the other, on the contrary, swears to its electorate that it will never allow it.

All this is the twenty-first century, where spiritual persecution, crusades and religious expansion are somehow not accepted. But apparently nationally-svidomye Ukrainian renegades live by their own special calendar ... How not to recall in this connection the words of the Ukrainian first president, the one who successfully steamed in the unforgettable Belovezhskaya Pushcha: “Ukraine needs its own church!” Said in the style: it’s all ! Where I couldn’t say such a one from which to blind, probably, I didn’t know myself ... And his other follower was so successful in the field of false spiritual church construction that even his not aesthetic profile was minted on a ringed anniversary coin next to the face of the Ecumenical Patriarch. In both!

The mind is incomprehensible, but this deceitful and inhuman project - “Ukrainians”, despite its obvious subversive all-destructive essence, continues to exist, moreover, it works and everything to which it does not touch - turns into a gnashing of all-Russian hateful hatred for everything Russian! And his main messianic task is to RUSSIAN vs. RUSSIAN! Some incomprehensible by reason, the demonic denial of itself!

Oh great, but simple mystery

With Russia it's over ... In the aftermath
We ditched her, talked,
Proluzgali, drank through, spit,
Zayzgali on dirty squares,


Sold out on the streets: no need to
To earth, republics, yes freedoms,
Civil rights? And the people of the motherland
Himself dragged on pus like a carrion.

Maximilian Voloshin, 1917 year

Yes, sometimes it happens, the problem seems so great that you don’t even know which way to approach it. But with regard to Ukraine, not everything is as hopeless as it may seem at first glance. Believe me, every fool will always find the right tool. Is always! And everything is very simple, like God's day, you just have to treat its existence exactly as it deserves it. There is an antidote for poison, a system can be built and used against the anti-system, the truth exists and always prevails against lies, if it is in capable hands. What is Ukraine? This is a monstrous lie mixed in human vices, feeding on human misery and humiliation! And it is necessary to talk about this not in a whisper, but openly and loudly. Here, remove from her exaggerated grandeur and arrogance the anti-Russian orientation and it will not immediately begin, because it was conceived and created, as an anti-system, as anti-Russia, created not in the name of good and light, but in spite of everything that has a Russian name, despite to the human mind itself. This and above all this can explain all twenty years of Ukrainian independent madness - all these unbridled, unpredictable political freaks, silly aspirations to move in all directions at the same time, all this insanity, unpredictability, overt rudeness.

But the most important thing is that this project during this time has discredited itself so much, so has driven itself into a dead end that it is not difficult to overturn this moral wretchedness and drive it out of the Russian land, because its limit has almost been exhausted, and to create Ukrainian nationalist manure except mud wattle and daub for anything worthwhile - IMPOSSIBLE! And this miracle of an unearthly place in the dustbin of history has long been prepared. Even then, in the Polish, shkvarchaschem rage and hatred musty corner of the Austrian barracks, Bandera smelly hideout in Tomiko complexed, horny alcoholic jerk-kobzar, Lenin and Stalin and Khrushchev's mockery of the memory of our Russian ancestors, and of course in a very hot Oak woods of the steamy Belovezhskaya Pushcha, under the cold Russian vodka and crispy cucumbers ...

Only one unbearably hard Russian heart - that during these monstrous years, so many kind and honest people suffered, deceived, robbed, humiliated and offended, so many human fates broke through the angular knee! This is our common Russian misfortune, with which we live and which we will have to beg for a long time as a terrible, mortal sin. Because there is no worse sin in the world than betrayal of his honor, dignity, and the blessed memory of our ancestors, who lived Russian and died - Russian, in the name of our bright future.

How can we hear something from the lips of the Russian president today: “about the people of Ukraine, not just close to us, but fraternal ...” So I want to ask: what does the respected Mr. President say? For us, the brotherly people are Polish, Czech, Slovak, Serbian, Georgian, Armenian and many others, for the freedom and independence, and simply the human existence of which our ancestors shed their Russian blood. The people of Ukraine are not a brotherly people, they are Russian people, as well as the Belarusian people are Russian people, one people! One! And if you find the strength and political will to recognize it as a given, then much will be in its place and the energy freed from the struggle with lies and contrived national obscurantism will be useful in the creative work of building our common Russian home!

After all, this is a great thing, it is not ours - simple, humble inhabitants, this is the business of statesmen who have the authority and power to decide our simple but so complex human destinies. And Russia can be revived only together, in unity, as it has been repeatedly verified by history - ALL RUSSIAN WORLD! It's so easy to understand and really implement! It is enough to ask simple workers, whether they want unity and a common great destiny, or just sit like a owl in their musty, supposedly national corners and wait for the weather by the sea? And they will tell the whole truth, because they are tired of this booth, lewdness, hopelessness. Because they want to live, work, raise children and see their Fatherland prosperous and proud of its greatness! Our common homeland - one for all! And be proud of the way that only a sincere, Russian soul can.

How can you look at tomorrow with such universal tension and fear, pessimism? There is a lot of business, but few people ... Yes, just call the Russian people, from shocks, lies and despair scattered around the world, slandered, called, deprived of their proud name, create human conditions for life and honest work, and here it is - worthy a cause, a common cause for a huge single ethnic Russian dominant, and this is our bright future - Here it is Great Russia! Because the greatness and power of it in the heart of each of us. After all, the fate of each of us is Russia, our native and beloved sacred homeland.
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  1. -6
    3 October 2011 18: 18
    He speaks beautifully! Fooled Russia is to blame for everything, even the fact that Ukraine is opening its fraternal embrace, and We are rudely pushing them away and pushing them straight to the EU!
    1. Bogatir
      -16
      3 October 2011 21: 06
      Ugra are not related to Slovenianism.
      1. raf
        -1
        4 October 2011 15: 52
        ABOUT ! Here he is, the most "sloven" "Slovenian" in the world, our miracle Yudo Bogatir! It was a long time since his comments were not visible, I was already worried about what happened or what! Thank God he is alive! Ask that I am so worried about him? It's so boring without clowns!
      2. Alexey Prikazchikov
        -4
        7 October 2011 12: 46
        Actually, these are not the Slavs of the khozls, but half the Turks, half the Tatars, and even Jewish blood mixed in them ..
        1. Tyumen
          -3
          7 October 2011 21: 40
          Boy, go to bed.
        2. SAVA555.IVANOV
          -1
          7 October 2011 22: 30
          OLYOSHA ARE YOU SHOWING IN PINE!?)))
      3. SAVA555.IVANOV
        -2
        7 October 2011 22: 36
        Bogatir YOU SHOW GEORGE BUSH ISSUING OUT!))))
    2. -6
      8 October 2011 23: 35
      esaul judging how you got hired by the rating on this site
  2. +3
    3 October 2011 18: 22
    Who pits us? Yes, thanks to Pan Yushchenko, today they don’t even disguise themselves.
    1. Ivan35
      +14
      3 October 2011 19: 24
      Moreover, we should not help those who are currently bleeding 2 parts of one essentially people
      Without Ukraine and Ukrainians, our future Union cannot become great - therefore, NO ANTI-Ukrainian attacks! Let the government and Putin trade for gas, etc. - but we should just repeat - Ukrainians and Russians are one nation
      1. BOSS
        -22
        3 October 2011 19: 39
        I do not think that we are one people, we are Russian, they are Ukrainians, of course they are similar in some respects, but obviously not one people.
        1. Bogatir
          -24
          3 October 2011 21: 11
          Seriously - different, you say it right.
          1. Evil Tatar
            -6
            4 October 2011 14: 29
            Do not drive ... Bastard!
            1. -7
              8 October 2011 23: 44
              you don’t see here they were filled with a pide --- rastov bunch of Ukrainians yes Kazakhs no dialogue there is paranoia pid ---- sy
        2. German
          0
          3 October 2011 21: 55
          if you talk like that, then you are no better than those who fought under the banner of the OUN-UPA! and on May 9 beat veterans!
          1. Bogatir
            -21
            3 October 2011 22: 10
            On May 9, there was a provocation of the Russian 5th column from Odessa near Markov and funding from the Russian consulate.
            - I propose to expel this consul, Markov, on a ferry to Kerch, and close the organization with a court - as a reminder of the Moscow Ukrainian.
        3. SAVA555.IVANOV
          -3
          7 October 2011 22: 39
          BOSS YES YES YOU RIGHT !!!!! LETTERS ARE DIFFERENT !!!!
        4. -7
          8 October 2011 23: 42
          we’re the only villainy in them, and they’re far removed — they don’t know their origin and howl like a flock of devils unless it’s normal that Ukrainians and Ukrainians fought on the side of Basayev and the hotab, and for sukoshvilyat so they are Ukrainians -deleted- geeks
          1. -5
            9 October 2011 00: 12
            Whose minuscule is it, but the truth is you won’t shut it up, your citizens and citizens fought with militants with a hutab and a basaev sniper and an instructor and just militants for fake dolars and sukashvilyatami except military volunteer militias weapons recruited your military enlistment offices yes to hell, it’s deleted - the truth is, and it’s not here you are and rushing bastards
      2. Bogatir
        -25
        3 October 2011 21: 11
        Russians have not the least relation to Ukrainians. I understand that someone is fooling around without Ukrainian genetic support such as Korolev, Lulka, Mikluha-Maklay, Tsilkovsky, etc. But look for brothers in Estonia and Finland (who refused to dismantle minefields). Your kinship is Meria, Murom, Chud, Mordvinians, etc. - Ugra with balalaikas.
        1. 0
          3 October 2011 23: 25
          Yes, we somehow figure it out ourselves, where are we to look for relatives, okay?
        2. Evil Tatar
          -5
          4 October 2011 14: 30
          Troll, went to the swamp!
        3. SAVA555.IVANOV
          -3
          7 October 2011 22: 42
          Bogatir ALREADY HAVE ALREADY HELPED THE INTEREST IN THE FUN !!!!!
        4. -4
          8 October 2011 23: 48
          Hear a blunder, Start a blog and give it out with a bang ... here you can only throw links to your revelations ...
  3. Motherland
    -6
    3 October 2011 18: 27
    Yes, the hatred of the authorities was transmitted to the people ...
    1. escobar
      +9
      3 October 2011 19: 47
      No, brother, this is not true. We love Russia with all our hearts, and scum - their minority (insignificant)
      1. Bogatir
        -14
        3 October 2011 21: 15
        We love Ukraine, and on the horde to dabble with the Horde banana-republican essence.
    2. Bogatir
      -18
      3 October 2011 21: 14
      Power is the people, though not everything is perfect yet. It is in the eastern countries - power is transferred from power, and the people are a herd. But these Kremlin Eastern traditions are of little interest.
      1. +1
        3 October 2011 23: 27
        Interestingly, where does this rich man eat?
        Judging by the speeches, they are like an ass.
        1. oper66
          -1
          4 October 2011 00: 39
          not like an ass but an ass
          1. Evil Tatar
            -3
            4 October 2011 14: 35
            Bogatyr (MIRACLE) - the ass itself, ass and eats ...
      2. Evil Tatar
        -3
        4 October 2011 14: 35
        Rich-and-and-ry - the troll scoundrel!
    3. Evil Tatar
      -3
      4 October 2011 14: 32
      Power is politics ...
      Two subjects (states) solve the problems that have arisen ...
      What do we ordinary people have before that?
      We lived together and we will live when "these" are toppled ...
      Everything else is crap!
  4. jamert
    -13
    3 October 2011 19: 44
    Well, firstly, the first mention of the term "Ukraine" refers to the XII century.
    Secondly, for anti-Russian sentiments in Ukraine, it is necessary to blame first of all Messrs. Luzhkov-Zhirinovsky-Zatulin, as well as their masters - Putin and Medvedev. The more Russians pour g ... on Ukraine and Ukrainians, the higher the rating of nationalist parties. Even in Donetsk, Svoboda has 2,5 - 3 percent.
    Go on, gentlemen.
    1. Tyumen
      -3
      3 October 2011 20: 34
      Continue? Where are you from?
      1. Bogatir
        -15
        3 October 2011 21: 17
        It is time in Tyumen to develop the ideas of Great Tartaria.
        1. Evil Tatar
          -3
          4 October 2011 14: 38
          Do not touch the sacred, x @@ weaves!
    2. Bogatir
      -21
      3 October 2011 21: 16
      Muscovy is utopian - it will destroy itself, it is a natural process.
      1. Tyumen
        -1
        3 October 2011 21: 35
        Utopia is a pipe dream, an ignoramus, and Russia is real, in contrast to an independent fiction. And in 20 years you will be scribbling your pearls from the Ukrainian region of the Russian Federation.
        1. Bogatir
          -17
          3 October 2011 21: 49
          Not 20 years, but less - there will be no Russia, there will be the Kuril Islands, China, Ichkeria, Degestan, Finland, etc.
          This process is already clearly visible. Everything artificial with the illusion of the general - falls apart by itself.
          1. Tyumen
            -2
            3 October 2011 22: 29
            More artificial than Ukraine, I have not yet seen.
          2. Evil Tatar
            -6
            4 October 2011 14: 40
            Do not use dumb pills, devil!
          3. +1
            4 October 2011 17: 24
            I understand that you are a troll, and judging by your comments, filled with "youthful maximalism" just a jerk. Therefore, I appeal to sane people who consider themselves patriots of Ukraine. Do you really think that if the Holocaust happened in Russia, according to the worst scenario, namely, its dismemberment into quasi-states, which will certainly be accompanied by civil war and the so-called humanitarian operation of NATO and other well-wishers, will leave Ukraine aside. To hope for this, to say the least, is naive. Huge crowds of refugees, the growth of social tension and, as a result, the collapse of the economy, which is far from the strongest, are guaranteed to you. And this is just the way, as they say, at a glance, I have no doubt that there will be many such negative factors. which will call into question the very existence of the Ukrainian state. Therefore, if you are truly patriots of your country, then do not wish the collapse of your closest neighbor, let's better be strong and rich ...
            1. -2
              4 October 2011 17: 32
              CORRECT UKRAINE TEMPORARILY invented by chimeric Built Create aimed at SEPARATION AND IMPLEMENTATION hostility between one nation like Belarus - an obstruction of the Zionist center at 20 century as Mina waiting to happen - GIVE IDEA samostiynogo dalsche ITSELF WILL GO AS FAMILY WHEN siblings INHERITANCE divide UP IMPROVED HOSTILIA AND KILLING
            2. SAVA555.IVANOV
              -1
              7 October 2011 22: 52
              YES BEAT AS WE CAN FOR YOU, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANY FIGHTS WITH THE DIRECT HEAD CHAPTER, DO NOT BE AFRAID, BECAUSE HE IS ON THREE RANKS ABOVE, WE UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, THOUGHT RUSSIA HAS BEEN A LITTLE POLICYMAN
      2. -4
        3 October 2011 23: 29
        Yes, if Muscovy destroys itself ... By the way, Muscovy is where?
        Is this a state? Or is it an area in Ukraine, near Ivano-Frankivsk?
    3. Evil Tatar
      -4
      4 October 2011 14: 37
      I agree, it's time to stop sharing the indivisible
      And for politicians, take your head in your hands and stop thinking in the ass!
      To all politicians ...
    4. Don
      -2
      4 October 2011 16: 11
      jamert do not tell tales, in our Donbass nationalists never won more than 1%. In the Donbass, we always respected and voted for those people who achieved something, and not for philosophers, bandurists or musicians. Look at the composition of the Party of Regions, many started ordinary workers like Skudar, Boyko and others, and then rose to the rank of plant directors. and look at the composition of Freedom in the Lviv administration.
  5. Superduck
    -1
    3 October 2011 20: 59
    What nonsense is that, not mastered.
    Let each of us ask himself better what he did to preserve friendship between the countries, at least passively, how many times he didn’t stick into the hohlosrach, tried to understand and understand the role of the OUN and the NKVD, to realize the tragedy of the people, divided half of the 20th century on different sides of the barricades. Not to notice politics where there is none. No, we have to admit that the division in our minds has already occurred, and only a few are beginning to think about what to do now, and thousands are simply not thinking. What the fuck "unification" can be talked about already, it's worth while thinking about not crossing the point of no return, as it happened with the Poles, Chukhonts, Georgians ... There is only one step left, and it’s fucking kicking the British intelligence, the demon is already long inside each of us.
    What a fool sincerely thinks that the problem is in the UPA old people rattling old bones in Lviv. Units in Ukraine do not like Russians, I myself am Russian, I have never hidden this anywhere, I have a lot of friends among nationalists and those and those. The problem is not in Russians, the problem is the awareness of Russia, its power and the goals of power. Unfortunately, I have to admit that the new president of Russia is not the best candidate for this business.
    1. Bogatir
      -12
      3 October 2011 21: 51
      Ukrainian patriotism is not divided into the illusion of "brotherhood". I personally want to treat Russians well, but not to the Horde.
      1. Superduck
        0
        4 October 2011 00: 15
        Quote: Bogatir
        I personally want to treat Russians well, but not to the Horde people.

        Something is not noticeable.
        Do not spit on cliches then, stop this spouse about the horde, Finno-Ugric and others (by the way I’m Finno-Ugric by kind), no one hears you anyway, and you are harassed. All Slavs are a hellish mixture of blood born of Turks, Huns, Scythians and well mixed by the 2nd great migrations of peoples.
        1. senya
          -1
          7 October 2011 23: 31
          I, too, am Finno-Ugric by birth ... but Russia is my MOTHERLAND .... and Russian ... although I’m a Mordvin on my passport ... I won’t catch those who trash my RUSSIA ...
          1. -2
            9 October 2011 00: 12
            I’m Russian -20 percent Tatar (on the grandfather’s line, I’m from ELABUGA and live in Ukhta (Komi)) I SUPPORT YOU ON 100
      2. Evil Tatar
        -3
        4 October 2011 14: 44
        Devilothyr, as I say to Tatar, close the slice of your bread, idiot is a provocateur-ghoul-troll ... Evil is not enough for you ...
        1. svvaulsh
          -1
          4 October 2011 21: 36
          Guys, do not worry, you! Just ignore his comments and don't answer. To calm the nerves, you can minus, although he is not worth it.
  6. zczczc
    +1
    3 October 2011 21: 16
    I believe that those who recall the fascists with a kind word should be remembered well, so that the little hands would shake at the very thought of blathering something in favor of the Germans. Literally, I would have planted a new one for every veteran who fought on the Germans' side and now goes to all kinds of gatherings there. Godikov so 10 - it will be normal. Let the Europeans flush ...

    And I wouldn’t touch the young, they were brainwashed there, it’s not the business of the lost to press. For the promotion of symbolism - yes, by law.
    There is no real anti-Russianness in Ukraine, this is all superficial. You just need to knock out the soil in the form of veterans.
    1. Bogatir
      -15
      3 October 2011 21: 22
      Quote: zczczc
      I believe that those who recall the fascists with a kind word should be thoroughly minted so that the little hands would shake

      - Yes, it is necessary to arrange lustration with the Kremlin’s fascist system - together with Germany, they started the 2nd World War in Europe.
      The Kremlin is still the rest of fascist shit.
    2. Tyumen
      -4
      3 October 2011 21: 50
      You mixed everything up. Yes, nobody is interested in these mossy Bandera, this is paraphernalia. Such youth did not appear because of them, but rather, they were dug up for the sake of youth. Just as a symbol of the struggle with the Russians. But other people teach Russophobia, and in a different way.
      1. zczczc
        -4
        3 October 2011 23: 48
        Tyumen35, so where did I get it - I need to select the symbol and say. A living symbol is por-German veterans.
    3. -4
      3 October 2011 22: 16
      That would be young and touch ... Kick your ass and put in a corner ...
      It is a pity there is no time machine of these assholes in 41-th to send ....
      1. Bogatir
        -10
        3 October 2011 22: 29
        Quote: solodova
        That would be young and touch ... Kick your ass and put in a corner ...

        - Judges who? Garlic from the mouth - in Russian rushing.
        Quote: solodova
        It is a pity there is no time machine of these assholes in 41-th to send ....

        - But what is there - in the 39th, when the Kremlin conceived the second world war with other fascists. He just returned from his parents' living room and said with his grandfather - whom the fascist Kremlin, under the bullets of the NKVD detachment, was sent to attack with bare hands ...
        Kremlin rot must die - this is natural.
        1. zczczc
          -5
          3 October 2011 23: 50
          Bogatir, I’d be silent about the garlic! Not looking there ...
        2. Evil Tatar
          -5
          4 October 2011 14: 48
          By garlic, mean no ghouls!
          And leaving the devil out of his mouth than rushing? The whole site stinks with your shit! Damn you!
        3. -7
          10 October 2011 11: 52
          Do you even know who these heroes were? Change your nickname, since you don’t like Russian so much. Or are you Asian? Or are you sure of its Sanskrit origin? What kind of hero are you?
          Quote: Bogatir
          - Judges who? Garlic from the mouth - in Russian rushing.

          Garlic is a natural antibiotic with a strong specific smell, for which the Europeans did not like it, did not use it and ridiculed Russians for it, but there were often dezentery in Europe ... so it’s better to smell like garlic than ...
      2. Tyumen
        -4
        3 October 2011 22: 32
        Then perhaps they would become heroes.
      3. oper66
        0
        3 October 2011 23: 07
        there is a joke about the hunchback with ebn, god gave the astronauts a time machine for treating them at orbstation and said the pen would turn a year younger and would return to the ground, these two mudzones would quickly rejuvenate and command the cool astronaut, and they wrapped the second space in diapers. what are you doing yes says I want to drive them back and have an abortion like this with the heroes and their masters themselves they are bells and whistles
      4. zczczc
        -2
        4 October 2011 00: 03
        solodova, no, you don’t need young people - we still have to live with them, and they with MP40 did not go against their own. And whoever went, let them sit in the second round - since they did not teach their sons, they didn’t spend much time under Stalin.
        1. -7
          10 October 2011 11: 50
          Yes, I’m talking about permanently, they would have looked and returned, then it would not have been a shame to live next to them ...
          Recently I talked with one young man. Grandfather was a prisoner, they sent him with a penal battalion to the war, the Germans captured, then strangled two guards, stole a bicycle and fled on it. He returned to Russia and went to Moscow to marauding ... According to the granddaughter, they did everything then .. It was not otherwise that the Nazis themselves released him as a deserter, but only the war was already lost.
          His granddaughter - the Nazi, an admirer of Hitler, wants everything connected with the exploits of our soldiers, sings odes to Hitler. So what is a grandfather, such is a grandson.
          Here I would send the granddaughter for good. No regrets. We have not so many of them, Russia would not have emptied tea.
    4. Mesniy
      -15
      4 October 2011 16: 14
      I agree, but together with the fascists and komunyak it is necessary to crumple, they are twins with the fascists - brothers
      1. -1
        4 October 2011 16: 36
        tell me, I’m new to you on the site, what is rushing from the negatives and filth that you carry as the last mongrel by order of the hatred with which you bother people what you inherited from, you are not from the nobility, as I understand it, but from the courtyards you have no sense of tact characteristic of people of the upper classes, I followed your comments, you were the last of those haters, but rather Jewish tailors' blood and even your narrow aspirations to eat and bark about the future, you have no stranger among your people, shorter moral, removed swearing --- dead read not Russian but Russian degenerate
        1. Mesniy
          -7
          4 October 2011 20: 38
          Stupid, yes, that’s enough of a blow. You can’t be so emotional. And by birth I am a Kuban Cossack, they were all my ancestors, many of them, by the way, were killed by the Jews.
          And my comments are from the heart, no one ordered them, something to flog about stupid things. I put a minus sign, and calm down, otherwise you’ll hysteria like cheap stuff.
          1. -3
            4 October 2011 20: 59
            then the Cossack’s frets, the sherbin’s surname is familiar to you, or I unsubscribed for opus. I don’t just write off the kondrashka, it’s just rubbish to write something that you say not to the Cossacks by chance at Shakhov, huh? I’ll now put the pros to you so that you lose the shoulder straps of the admiral of the pirates of luck countryman
            1. Mesniy
              -5
              4 October 2011 21: 21
              I have his book, the history of the KKV in two volumes, the shahs — deleted — I think. Well, as I wrote my opinion, I will write so
              A + - this is garbage in general, I think, car chases ... childhood
              1. -5
                4 October 2011 21: 24
                I agree, but Shcherbina is my surname and P.F. my great-grandfather, but we can remove the shards from your epaulettes and you may wake up and not all the fuckers do you think
                1. Mesniy
                  -5
                  4 October 2011 21: 30
                  Great! winked
                  And I don’t consider all shit-eaters, only fascists, communists and Muslims - fundamentalists.
                  Yes, and don’t worry about car chases, here the boobies are raising me by leaps and bounds, you alone cannot cope with them. wink
      2. Don
        +1
        4 October 2011 17: 18
        Again, the Local Communists are to blame for everything. Where did you see the twins? Did the USSR or the Communist Party offer to turn half the world into a colony and turn the population into slaves or turn them into slaves? The Communist Party suggested, at that time, a progressive path. I’m not a communist, but I understand very well that in the USSR they did a lot of good for an ordinary person and for the development of the state. There were cleansings under Stalin, but sometimes it is necessary to strengthen the state. If Peter I had not carried out purges and reforms, Russia probably would not become an empire. If Cromwell had not purged, Britain would probably not have become an empire, if the USA had not organized the genocide of the Indians, he would not have been what he is now.
        1. Mesniy
          -5
          4 October 2011 20: 45
          That is, you put the USSR on a par with medieval despotism and admit that komunyaki treated the people of the country as colonizers to savages? Well, it’s meritorious, you’re not hopeless, glad.
          Things are easy, remember that the jugashvil forbade the communists to vote against the fascists in the Reichstag, and this was the beginning of Hitler's ascent.
          And then German military specialists prepared for the USSR and worked out jointly, then a pact on the division of Poland, and Soviet newspapers applauded the fall of France. And the 3rd Reich denied the denial of any raw materials.
          add 2 + 2 and you will understand everything.
          1. Don
            -2
            5 October 2011 16: 03
            And to the question, the USSR or the Communist Party suggested that the world be turned into a colony, and the population either cut out or turned into slaves? -You still didn’t answer. And as usual, I twisted everything in my own way, I didn’t put anything on one board. I gave historical examples when radical transformations were simply necessary, by the way, do you also refer the United States to medieval despotism? Since when did the colonialists (if you consider the USSR as such) give them higher education instead of turning people into slaves? Since when the colonies builds rocket-building, tank-building, electrical and other plants, and doesn’t only develop mining? Since when have slaves and savages been treated in the colony for free. Or can you give an example of some Nigerian who became Prime Minister of Great Britain or a Vietnamese who became president France?
            Quote: Mesniy
            Things are easy, remember that the jugashvil forbade the communists to vote against the fascists in the Reichstag, and this was the beginning of Hitler's ascent.

            Once again, information that wasn’t proved by you. Where are the facts? This is another fiction of yours. You generally have an original history. Open once again a history book for the 10th grade and not necessarily of a Russian edition, but for example published in the USA or Great Britain. everything is written in black and white: the 2nd world countries started on the axis! The Japanese invaded China (Manjuria), the Italians in Ethiopia as early as the 31st. And in the Spanish Civil War, only the USSR helped the legitimate government and specialists and technology. Where were your Pindos and the British? And notice all this was until the 39th year. And how many times did Stalin in the 37th and 38th years proposed Britain and France to conclude a military alliance? But they hoped until the last that Hitler would go to the east. And who betrayed Czechoslovakia and Poland? the USSR? The Poles themselves were happy to tear a piece from Czechoslovakia when it was divided. And why pity Poland, she was an enemy of the USSR from the moment of its reconstruction in 1918. The USSR acted as a sound logic of any the state .And it was beneficial to cooperate with Germany until the 39th. The Soviets had to create a strong modern army, and the Germans had to recreate their own, it was a mutually beneficial partnership.
            1. Mesniy
              -3
              5 October 2011 16: 54
              Regarding the quote you quoted, it was even in the Soviet textbooks, only the Red-bellied men otmazyvali there along the way, but I don’t want to argue with you, the course of history confirms my words, all empires collapsed in the 20th century, by the end of 21 all the regimes in the communal reserves will collapse, already wallow and crack. And you can continue to blow the pioneer dawn and drip bile and ananize on a scoop.
              And we enjoy life!
          2. -2
            5 October 2011 16: 12
            Quote: Mesniy
            Things are easy, remember that the jugashvil forbade the communists to vote against the fascists in the Reichstag, and this was the beginning of Hitler's ascent.


            Oh, how ... Stalin forbade German(!!!) Communists vote against the National Socialists in the Reichstag ... And so Hitler won the elections ...

            Listen, you have a cool shit, share where you take, I also want to chase like that ... But if I also turn against Communists and the USSR, I’m sorry for that, but I’ll endure for the sake of such a parish. LSD is clearly resting ... I want it to be a bit too ...
            1. Mesniy
              -3
              5 October 2011 16: 55
              Whoever studied at the soviet school knows that, look through the old textbooks.
  7. oper66
    +1
    3 October 2011 21: 18
    the story is one and the truth is one, and how not to rewrite and redo the truth of the history of the Russian people is one and the population of Ukraine is one people with us except those who caved in under the Poles and another dishonesty from the west and carry out a team of hosts the term Ukraine appeared in the 12th century and even earlier it was but it meant the border region of Ukraine called not only the territories that are part of modern Ukraine but also other border areas my ancestors the Black Sea Cossacks came from the Zaporizhzhya section who came to the Kuban but my grandfathers and great-grandfathers called themselves Russian - they’ll put everything in its place and reward everyone according to their merits and Russia and the Russians were and will be no matter how much the henchmen zapadensky
    1. Bogatir
      -8
      3 October 2011 21: 35
      Exactly - there is no history of Moscow lies and never was. Ugrian herd certainly does not think so, but it does not change anything.
      - Holodomor 32, the expansion of the Ugrofin culture, the crimes of the NKVD, launched the 2nd World War with the Germans, the occupation of territories, not several agreements with Khmelnytsky, the destroyed Sich, the front of the UPA, shot in Katyn, etc. ...
      - All this is something that Ugra does not see in history, but nothing - but they see everything.
      1. zczczc
        -3
        3 October 2011 23: 53
        Idioten test, by golly ...
  8. Bogatir
    -6
    3 October 2011 21: 42
    No lies needed - the Kremlin is = fascism. Kremlin fascism unleashed the Second World War - destroying Poland, attacking Finland, shooting into the back with NKVD detachments, attacking people with their bare hands, UPK NKVD’s mock-ups, rashing Polish officers, etc. ...
    Moscow is not a fascist horde condemned in Nurburg.
    1. German
      +2
      3 October 2011 21: 59
      where would you be now (and just do it?) if it weren’t for the Kremlin? if the Ounovites won and take off like that?
      1. +5
        3 October 2011 22: 06
        so it happened and someone drunk on a fence instead of his mother finished here he is wooden and sawdust in his head
        1. Bogatir
          -4
          3 October 2011 22: 14
          shnaya worthless ugra - filter the bazaar.
          1. zczczc
            +3
            3 October 2011 23: 57
            You do not need to be offended, but sit down and think. And think hard.
            What you think you already thought it seems to you. We must still think.

            Take a piece of paper, draw circles, who was for whom, what land he defended, which peoples received this land after the war, and which were taken away and for what. There is nothing better than brain work with a pencil in your hand.

            Here on my table under the glass is a map of Europe to the Urals. I look at her and see a lot, but what’s on your table besides a mouse pad?
          2. Evil Tatar
            0
            4 October 2011 14: 54
            Both of us, in our balak, chock zapadentse ...
            Already something has been taught through joint efforts, the devil ...
      2. Bogatir
        -6
        3 October 2011 22: 07
        There would now be more than 100 million Ukrainians - and that I will never forget the eel.
        1. +3
          3 October 2011 22: 33
          if you hadn’t masturbated your fate, then the Chinese heroes would have overtaken the room heroes I read you asked for a mug to show on your avatar or you’re ashamed to see a wooden mug with gulchite and shut up with a trash like that about the filter there can’t be another conversation, and since you're frostbitten you probably on the fence they crunched in the winter in a severely frozen cold
          1. Vidgit
            +1
            4 October 2011 10: 14
            There was one such nat. an offshoot of "KTV KTV" or "kotobood". It looks like his new nickname was called a hero.
        2. Tyumen
          +1
          3 October 2011 22: 33
          Did Yushchenko tell you this? Or your * historians *?
        3. 0
          3 October 2011 23: 36
          Strange, like not a full moon, why is this aggravation?
          The poor orderlies in the mental hospital ... We see tired of listening to this barking and allowed to the computer, perhaps, the keyboard will not flood with saliva ...
    2. Evil Tatar
      -2
      4 October 2011 14: 51
      Huh?
      Remember, your bazaar, when you piss yourself before death, with Tatar fingers on your throat ...
  9. Andrey2302
    0
    3 October 2011 21: 50
    Russia and Ukraine are one nation and one people. But until Ukraine understands that they are not the Euro Union, Nato is useless. In addition to being closer to Russia for strategic reasons. They will continue to push us away (Russia) It is a pity that when they understand it will be too late.
    1. Bogatir
      -7
      3 October 2011 22: 01
      Neither Russia nor the Finno-Finnish people — no side to the Slovenians.
      Quote: Andrey2302
      They will continue to push us away (Russia) It is a pity that when they understand it will be too late.

      - We have understood everything over the centuries, we still have not understood it. Well, look for "brothers" and the guilty ones - this is so mentally characteristic of you - to whine ...
      1. Tyumen
        0
        3 October 2011 22: 35
        And who has been crying for 20 years that Russia has eaten them? You still remember Hohlokost.
        1. -1
          3 October 2011 23: 37
          He began to repeat ... Right now, go in a circle, hold on, people!
  10. Bogatir
    -6
    3 October 2011 22: 22
    There are no Russians as a nation - this is an artificial entity based on warped history, language and state religion. And the confirmation of this is that the Russian emigrants are assimilated the most.
    1. -1
      3 October 2011 22: 53
      Bogatir Such an eccentric, break out. HA HA HA !!!!
      1. zczczc
        -1
        4 October 2011 00: 01
        figwamYes, he got drunk, I think. Just corny drunk.
      2. +1
        4 October 2011 00: 15
        Oban ... here is a hedgehog !!!
        So there are no Russians ...
        The new term is still the state religion. I wonder what?

        I wonder what it is there, beyond the eastern border of Ukraine, eh? Do not know?

        Probably, there is the edge of the world, populated by these ... eels and carp. Finnish and. Artificially, it turns out, divorced. Mutants.

        The recipe, it turns out, is simple: it takes the civil Finnish eel (straight from the lake), it fits its brains with distorted history in a distorted language. And then everything is polished by the state religion.
        Well, what kind of eel will endure? Of course, it mutates. But he hates those who are so ... umutanted.
        And then he climbs into the Internet, takes his nickname is rich and carries nonsense.

        In the tale, huh?
        With a terrible end.
        I beg your pardon if that ... that I was obviously getting rich ...
    2. Evil Tatar
      0
      4 October 2011 14: 59
      Yeah ... And Peter 1 was an Estonian, oh no - a Nanai, oh no, an Indian, or a black ... Well, look there, in the annals of the devil ...
      And in general, it is immediately clear that the devil has not been obsessed in other people's hands for a long time ...
      Maybe lucky soon ...
  11. Strelez
    0
    3 October 2011 22: 39
    Russia was and will be, but everyone has enough problems, no one will win from the war!
  12. mox
    mox
    -3
    3 October 2011 22: 46
    Throwing shit on the fan. Hohlosrach type was not there for a long time.
    1. Tyumen
      -3
      3 October 2011 22: 54
      And this is a heroic affair - a bunch of unfounded allegations. This work.
  13. -5
    3 October 2011 23: 42
    Such a bunch of freaks - indeed, only a hero ass for the forces.

    Quote: mox
    Hohlosracha type for a long time was not.


    This is not a hochlosrach. And Ukrainians, and Ukrainians have nothing to do with it absolutely. Just one mental patient is having fun, as he can. And such, forgive, both in Russia and in Ukraine in every Durkee in bulk. Not everyone on the Internet has the opportunity to get out, yes.

    And one by one abnormal conclusions are not worth it.
    1. slan
      -5
      3 October 2011 23: 46
      Quote: Banshee
      And one by one abnormal conclusions are not worth it.

      You better track who he puts the pluses on a regular basis (now there were none), and not with ordinary epaulets. This one even though openly says that he thinks, rather than raves. Inferiority complex...
      1. -6
        4 October 2011 00: 02
        Quote: slan
        You'd better follow who puts them a plus sign regularly (now there were none), and not with ordinary epaulets.


        And how will I do it? It (maybe) admins can trace, and I, forgive, the same user, as well as you.
        If someone puts - means, supports his opinion. Which once again confirms my previous statement, that he is not the only one. But ... everyone here has the right to express what he thinks. Probably fair. However, it’s not for me to judge, because I also say what I think.
        1. slan
          -3
          4 October 2011 00: 09
          I didn’t put it that way, I'm talking about the fact itself. Before, I also tried to compete with him in fool with a fool)), while I noticed that he was not alone unfortunately.
      2. Superduck
        -4
        4 October 2011 00: 21
        Quote: slan
        You'd better follow who puts them a plus sign regularly (now there were none), and not with ordinary epaulets.

        I sometimes put, sometimes cons, is this a crime? All the same, everyone doesn’t care what he says, but I don’t put a person for the post. However, you are always off topic. I allow the admins, if there is such a desire, to give a report to everyone who wants to whom I put what.
        1. slan
          -4
          4 October 2011 19: 24
          Quote: SuperDuck
          I sometimes put, sometimes cons, is this a crime? All the same, everyone doesn’t care what he says, but I don’t put a person for the post. However, you are always off topic.

          Well, if you were alone, I'm talking about the system. And I'm not talking about the minuses, but about the pros, Banshee said that he is a lunatic, and I noticed something else. Why are you all bothering?)) I later thought later that I would take it personally ...
          Have you even traced the topic at Bogatyr?)) Still, how subjective is people's perception.
    2. oper66
      -1
      4 October 2011 00: 31
      sorry chizare lombroso did not live up to now I think that this individual would be very interested in him when constructing the biological theory of crimenogenicity of the person, he would just study it and maybe, to his surprise, I would not be able to find brain substance in this cranial box I don’t deny that the spinal cord of the specimen under the designation hero is available because it performs vital functions - it pours shit on the site in relation to the Russian people and in his head he echoes and confusion he is an obvious zombie since he can’t think for himself and how same stupidity
  14. -5
    4 October 2011 00: 14
    look at U-Tube, it is relevant both in Russia and on ukruin- After all, we have the BEST country !!! (forbidden clip)
  15. karnics
    +4
    4 October 2011 00: 59
    Brothering Russ! but it’s not awake, like stupid rams, let’s not rejoice our enemies, we will become shoulder to shoulder together with the wall and we won’t let the Zhidovin rule us ... So Svyatoslav Khorobry would say now if he were alive.

    I am Ukrainian, but this is only one of the names of my nation. Ukrainians are Russians, as well as Belarusians and Russians ... We are fraternal peoples and we must not survive together otherwise ...
    As for Galicia, the last state education in the territory of Galichna was the Principality of Ruske (Galicia-Volyn)
    it is a historical fact ... and its inhabitants inhabited ...
    1. oper66
      0
      4 October 2011 01: 08
      Odi Russian people I don’t see a difference between us and everyone has relatives that in Russia and in Ukraine I am against those reptiles who raised their heads and stick their tongues out and shout at the Russians and misrepresent the history of the Nazi henchmen appropriating them heroes while humiliating and insulting WWII veterans to you Ukrainians need to fight with them and not be fought in Bendery
    2. NUT
      NUT
      -5
      4 October 2011 10: 07
      Quote: karnics
      We are fraternal peoples

      those with whom we don’t drink, also want this, do not spare huge amounts of resources and resources, so that we do not become One People
  16. -7
    4 October 2011 01: 46
    KIEV, October 3. In the course of recent closed talks with Russian President and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and Vladimir Putin, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych issued a series of ultimatums in response to a proposal to join the Customs Union. In particular, he threatened, in response to expensive gas, to expel the Black Sea Fleet from Crimea and place missile defense on Ukrainian territory, writes "Mirror of the Week
    "You can keep the price of gas, but at the same time lose Ukraine. The choice is yours," the publication quotes Yanukovych with reference to its sources.
    At the same time, according to sources, Putin did not try to exert severe pressure on Yanukovych on the issue of Ukraine joining the Customs Union. He only tried to explain that no one was waiting for Ukraine in the EU; that the EU will never make a decision that is perpendicular to Russia's interests; that Moscow’s interests in the European Union are guarded by a number of countries led by Germany; that Ukraine is not the price of gas, which Russia is ready to change if Ukraine enters the Customs Union. The high gas price will not allow the Ukrainian authorities to implement ideas ahead of the elections aimed at raising salaries and pensions. The rating will collapse, and Banking will lose power, reports
    "Choose - either you are friends with us, or the electorate is not friendly with you," the weekly explains the essence of Putin's arguments
    In turn, according to the newspaper, Yanukovych made it clear that Ukraine does not agree to join the CU. According to him, “if the Russian side does not intend to fulfill its promises (regarding the reduction of gas prices - editor's note), then we will look for other ways to restore justice. As you can see, the price of natural gas - $ 2012 - has been included in the 416 budget. It will be very difficult for Ukraine, but we will stand. Just in this situation we will understand that we are not connected by friendly relations with your country. The presence of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol will be questioned; our non-participation in the missile defense program and a number of other initiatives and organizations, which which Russia is very wary. You can keep the price of gas, but lose Ukraine. The choice is yours, "- retells the publication of Yanukovych's position. As explained in the material, the Ukrainian president is afraid of becoming dependent on the Kremlin and does not want to share his powers.
    “Yanukovych categorically does not want to be a minority shareholder in the territory that he sincerely considers his hunting farm - joining the Customs Union would give the Kremlin owners the right to determine where and what share the president of Ukraine will have.

    Here you are the brothers Slavs and the whole friendship you are bargaining and he is africa bargaining for fear of yanek for his opu place with a yudka in the next chamber will be a little later and in the future can visit the bottle
  17. -2
    4 October 2011 02: 22
    Quote: opium21
    Here you are the brothers Slavs and the whole friendship you are bargaining and he is africa bargaining for fear of yanek for his opu place with a yudka in the next chamber will be a little later and in the future can visit the bottle


    Hmm, so judging by the text, they are both traders.))) This one says give the gas price lower, and the other way you enter the vehicle (in which the decisive word is still ours) fellow ), I think this is just an example of normal communication between two oligarchic structures. And the Slavs, not the Slavs, are just not important here. Each pulls a blanket over himself. IMHO
    1. oper66
      -5
      4 October 2011 02: 35
      since I’m talking about the same ones, I don’t think they are Slavs, they are not people and opium correctly says traders they always sell trades left and right, they buy some and others like a girl break after 7 abortions because I don’t give because the girl and secondly after that it’s spinning, like that, and Yanukovych and gas will not be cheaper for the population, they will only win a share for the resale of gas to Europe
  18. URB
    URB
    -3
    4 October 2011 02: 47
    I read comments and think what kind of people live in our countries! but in fact, if you look, we didn’t do anything wrong with each other! these are all politicians .... and you, removed, use your ready-made information instead of your brains and say what you are told
    1. -4
      4 October 2011 05: 11
      Well, that’s all right. From the suggested, heard and seen, we choose what (in our opinion) seems logical and correct to us. Do you have something different?
  19. 0
    4 October 2011 09: 54
    In 1974, they traveled from the Stavropol School of Communications to the Strategic Missile Forces Championship in Radio Sports in Lutsk.
    In Kiev, we dressed up in sportswear because the population reacted negatively to the Soviet military - as commanders explained to us.
    Near the military unit stood a village. Last night we decided to take a walk on it. Dressed up the uniform. Guitar. We went to the village on the main street, became a line and with Russian folk songs passed through the whole village.
    All the girls in this village came to us. We spent the whole night by the fire near a pond. The songs were sung by Russian and Ukrainian. Not any incidents. There were NO hints.
  20. NUT
    NUT
    -5
    4 October 2011 09: 56
    judging by the comments of those with whom we do not drink, everything goes as if by lubrication
    the process is at the start and soon the Pskov regiments will go to fight Ryazan, Chernihiv Vladimir, Rostov Novgorod and everyone will yell- I am not Russian- I am Rostov and he is not Russian- he is Novgorod ... and there the new mom will come in time
  21. -4
    4 October 2011 10: 37
    Well, in general, yes) A ​​neighbor is a neighbor, a crowd is a crowd, a village is a village, a street is a street. Survivability is not our thing.
    1. -4
      4 October 2011 13: 08
      Do not fence in nonsense. There are much more smart people than idiots. Who, except barking with foam at the mouth on the topic of national superiority, cannot vomit anything else from himself, will still end up like some historical lovers of "pure blood". That is, a carcass in a fire in the backyard.
  22. Graaf
    -2
    4 October 2011 11: 26
    I read the article and was horrified. I read the comments and realized that the people (using the comments) for the most part practically do not understand the essence of what the author wrote. The article is cut into pieces of hatred, lies (well-camouflaged), rejection of Ukraine (as a fait accompli, but by the way the author of Belarus has not yet slandered it for some reason), bile (the old Soviet kegebeshno-cop), which becomes scary because the author presents his paranoid - as a dogma which should act. Taken out of context, phrases, a bit of the old Soviet history of the USSR, counter propaganda a la KGB, a bit of history (put on the page as they said above), overt nationalism (oddly enough Russian, it shows in every line), the accusation of everything. And everyone is to blame - but not me, all these politicians are bastards. Ukraine as a state is either unable to die to the delight of him (the author). What is it? Ukraine is a fictitious state, because he (the author) so wants to say - pour mud.
    Dear author! Your article reveals the spirit of Goebel's propaganda. Yes Yes! Exactly. With something I can agree, with something not. But in the bulk of the text, it is all too often false, outright lies (that Russians are pinched - I am Russian and I don’t observe this all over the country, it’s everything in your fevered brain has turned upside down), that the Ukrainian language is being implanted (! - it's not a problem for me to communicate in Ukrainian or Russian, despite the fact that I learned Ukrainian 20 years ago), Taras Shevchenko with a strange look. That the titular nation of Ukraine is the Russians. What are you carrying? My classmates from Moscow, having arrived in Kiev for a week, did not see the problems about which you write so "burningly" at all. Their words were - guys, as we sometimes envy you for good (and these are businessmen who created their business from scratch, did not use the money of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and they did not have dads and mothers who financed them), they did everything themselves.
    So bad that Ukraine as a state took place? But no! Aftars are located (as you can’t remember the old Soviet school of counterpropaganda) that pretend to be true.
    Frankly, the article is a rare lie and a mare.
    And I can advise AFTAR only one thing ... as Ilyich (Ulyanov) said - you need to be treated, my friend, to be treated! And from myself I’ll add ... in a mental hospital!
    1. oper66
      -5
      4 October 2011 13: 41
      Lenin's naschet, you are a lot wrong, because of your youth, you did not get such a science as the history of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), the most obligatory subject, and in the army you probably didn’t write notes on Lenin’s works. it goes that the Russians should artificially put themselves in a humiliated position in relation to the national outskirts of the empire for the oppression of national minorities under tsarism, I advise and you will understand that the Jews who came to power at 17 sought to destroy the self-consciousness of the Russian people and their pride, even this cross Ulyanov was afraid of Russian spirituality and respectfully he called the population of central Russia GREAT RUSSIA and the division of the territory of Russia according to national characteristics and the creation of republics is the result of his work, in fact, what we are reaping under the tsar in RUSSIA there was no division according to national characteristics, but there were provinces and all peoples had equal rights, by the way in the USA there is no territorial division according to national signs and there is an ad unit of pos triplets on a territorial basis with US citizenship and nationality does not play a role in state construction, well, except for the ghetto, a compact settlement by race
      1. Graaf
        0
        4 October 2011 14: 38
        Per66
        Judging by the number 66, is your birth year? I am mistaken? My year is 63, so what about the course of Marxism-Leninism - he outlined both in the army and at the university what it is and what it is eaten with, too. As for the history of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks - for me this is not an empty phrase, I know what it is. As for turning to me, you - I always prefer to write to you, to a stranger - have raised me like that, I think you too.
        And as for the rest ... the Jews are to blame, etc. Well, what can I say, there is a lot to argue about, and the truth, as always, remains with seven seals. Incidentally, the truth is, too. And what we were taught in the USSR, much was given to me only by a positive perception of the world and an understanding of the essence of the process and dirty politics. There are relatives in Russia and Belarus - they do not allow me to deny them, because they are closer than all the politicians of the Russian Federation, Ukraine and Belarus!
        1. oper66
          -3
          4 October 2011 15: 01
          I ask you to apologize to me Your Grace (joke) Yes, 66 years of birth for you, of course, I’m sorry just for the relationship YOU have communication between people like-minded people and I didn’t like you in service there are many colleagues and friends in the Vinitsa region, there are many friends and friends in Enakievo, but I want to note that in the territory of the current statehood of Ukraine neo-fascist henchmen spread and do not give in to the Baltic states and the people of Ukraine not only are silent and welcome their policies, but at the level of personal communication we are friends and at the state enemies, and this is the merit of connivance at the onslaught of the UUO officers and your conciliatory behavior.
          FOR POISONS I WILL APPLY APPEARANCE ONCE AGAIN AND TO WORK THEN LENIN RANGE BE LOVE YOUR LIGHTNESS
          1. Graaf
            -2
            5 October 2011 18: 05
            ... I read yesterday, according to your understanding, Lenin's work, it says - study, study and study again! But it turns out strangely, gentlemen (as now they like to dignify themselves) - they cannot understand simple things, history does not stand still, it is happening every day, every minute. And they still want to return it back, or - specially sent "Cossacks" who sit and flood on any topic, not knowing its essence and not understanding the importance of the question of history.
            And for the poking and Your Grace (I'm not a royal person!) - I beg your pardon, but I don't really like your "familiarity" (joke)!
            1. -6
              8 October 2011 23: 53
              history is being created well, why don’t the creators create history history of statics what has happened can’t be changed but you’re so lousy that’s why they say create it and historians now as well as artists are creative pide ----
      2. NUT
        NUT
        -4
        4 October 2011 15: 58
        [quote = oper66] will satisfy Lenin [/ quote
        I do not argue and I want to remind you that the main task of this team was the complete and merciless destruction of Russia and all Russian, for this,

        first of all, we were deprived of faith, history, and truth.
        many independent states were created, including Belous, Don, Ukrainian, Volga, Zavolzhsky, etc., etc.

        and to each of these countries (no doubt), the very ones with which we do not drink could easily and can come up with their own language, true faith, centuries-old history and teach them to be proud

        who benefit and have spent billions writing history and mother tongue for Ukraine?

        why GMC gives as a gift 30l. gasoline (like 30 pieces of silver) to the one who speaks Belarusian at a gas station?

        Why is this education reform that lowers our students to the level of their bachelors?

        no matter how they officially called us, we will always be Russian to them and they cannot let us out of shit

        Well, if one of ours continues to divide himself into Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians, he can proudly consider himself a faithful Leninist and with trepidation lay wreaths at his monuments
        1. -5
          10 October 2011 12: 40
          Well, I'm a Leninist, then what ... but you either did not understand something, or beguiled. "Merciless destroyer of everything Russian" ....
          what grass do you confuse globalists with communists?
  23. -6
    4 October 2011 13: 16
    Quote: opium21
    Here you are the brothers Slavs and the whole friendship you are bargaining and he is africa bargaining for fear of yanek for his opu place with a yudka in the next chamber will be a little later and in the future can visit the bottle


    Unlikely. The fact that Yanukovych does not want to share is normal. He was not behind this climbed into the chair. I understand humanly.
    The fact that bargaining like a slut on the side of the road is also clear, for the price of gas brings a lot of European money.
    And do not say that it is insignificant. It would be insignificant - so they would not have clung.
    And everything else - the vehicle, missile defense, Black Sea Fleet - components.
    Bara fight - at lackeys forelocks crack.
    Hey, they'll find out everything there, and we calmly see and discuss.
    Without all raids. For neither Putin nor Yanukovych draws on icons. So let them ...
    They will understand there without us, then why are we here?
  24. -1
    4 October 2011 13: 50
    Bogatir the word Slavs is spelled through А or you were not taught there overseas
  25. aleksandr55
    0
    4 October 2011 14: 05
    It is not clear that there are so many controversies around the article? The fact that the bar (lads) will not share the money is their problem. My cousin and sister live in Ukraine, so now they treat me like foreigners? at Chernobyl I did not think that I was in a foreign state. You at least look around you what is happening in Russia and Ukraine. But now it turns out that two fly into the abyss and at the same time sort things out. Not then the West destroys the Russian people so that someone will stay. If you think that our "friends" divide us into Russians and Ukrainians in relation to our future destiny, then you are very mistaken. Even the so-called "elites" are constantly made to understand that they are slaves and cattle. what should the rest of us expect?
  26. oper66
    -5
    4 October 2011 14: 45
    THERE IS A SUGGESTION Let us make a fortune in ordinary Slots I’m going to turn it off. HE ALREADY GENERAL IS A LARGE PIRATE GENERAL FORWARD BY ITS ADVANTAGES BEFORE ORDER AND Ignore the comments.
    1. -9
      10 October 2011 12: 37
      I tried to put Mesnoy’s pluses so that I could withdraw to zero, but in the second comment I couldn’t hold back - he went through the subject of the Great Patriotic War vilely, and that’s all ... Her hand didn’t lie down plus to put up as an abomination ...
      Better to just ignore them ..
  27. Evil Tatar
    -2
    4 October 2011 15: 03
    The article is competent, correct ...
    Comments are conscious - worthy!
    But let's say the troll under the nickname stolen from the Russians!
    And what kind of hero is he? Do not hell defile the big name of the heroes of RUSSIAN!
    Let the villain NICK replace! For example on the Ghoul - in tune ...
    1. Superduck
      -5
      7 October 2011 10: 24
      Quote: Evil Tatar
      Do not hell defile the big name of the heroes of RUSSIAN!

      Bogatyr is a Mughal word :-)
  28. Sobibor
    -10
    4 October 2011 16: 01
    Think narrowly, gentlemen, imperialists. Already, would have written about the terrible penal servitude of the Lviv metro.

    In general, historically, Ukrainians are closer to the Poles - both by blood, both by culture, and by language
    1. -3
      5 October 2011 16: 16
      Who told you that? Poles?
      They lie ...
      They could not, definitely could not, they assessed the Ukrainians as slave cattle in life. And the land too. You haven’t heard about "Rzeczpospolita from sea to sea," have you? In vain ... Listen to the anthem ...
  29. Don
    -4
    4 October 2011 16: 05
    Oh, why are you citizens of the Russian Federation so fooled by such fluderasts as the Bogatyr? A person with zero knowledge of history tells us that it turns out that Russians are not Slavs. I speak Russian, I know Ukrainian and at the same time I can understand what the Pole or Serb is talking about. Ukrainian so but it differs from Russian, as Russian from Polish and Ukrainians are really Slavic people, the same as Slovaks (for example), only they live in the west and in the center of the Ukrainian state itself. Historically, the South-East of Ukraine has never been part of Ukraine itself , not in the time of Bogdan Khmelnitsky, not in the UNR. These lands were captured by the Russian Empire and settled people from central Russia here. The paradox is that the current Ukrainian Nazis should thank the Soviet authorities for such a generous gift in the form of Crimea, the Black Sea, Donbass, Tavria. you and I have much in common and we certainly need an alliance, and above all not because of cultural, historical or linguistic benefits, but primarily because of economic ones. their EU, for which we are only a market for their goods and territory of political influence. Citizens of Ukraine should understand this. Slavs and Turks can really create a new union, economically and politically strong.
    1. Superduck
      -4
      7 October 2011 10: 37
      Quote: Don
      Historically, the South-East of Ukraine was never part of Ukraine itself, neither during the time of Bogdan Khmelnitsky, nor in the UPR. These lands were captured by the Russian Empire and settled here people from central Russia. Paradox

      Chess, or not in the subject, or likened to the author of the article, the main fortresses of Slobozhanshchina were populated by the so-called Circassians (Cherkasy) who were essentially Cossack families who fled from the civil war, the cheeky Khmelnitsky whole regiments. Although they were founded precisely by the representatives of the Moscow kingdom, the governors, where they held detachments of archers, but these settlements were settled by the Cossacks just. These Circassians constituted the main military force of these settlements. Read the history of Raisins, Akhtyrka, Kharkov and other cities of Slobozhanschina which are about 350-380 years old. Try near Kharkov to find at least one village where they speak plain Russian; or surzhik or Ukrainian, you will not hear Ukrainian in the city, but the suburb is already here.
      1. Don
        -4
        7 October 2011 15: 05
        And here is Slobozhanschina? I have listed the regions below. Donbass, Crimea, the Black Sea region, Tavria have never been part of Ukraine, the Russian Empire, having broken the Crimean Khanate, annexed these lands to its territories. And whom did they have to settle there? For the colonization of the territory, people were resettled here from central Russia. In Donbass, in many villages, they also speak surzhik, but mostly no one speaks Russian, Urainian.
  30. Sobibor
    -5
    4 October 2011 16: 08
    You can give the opinion of the Bulgarians on national issues:

    Ukraine - Belarus (original RUS) is the beginning of all slavs. Old Russian language, in which Ukrainian - Belarusian built - the original language of the Slavs. Polonism can not beat if the beginning of the Slavs in Ukraine. Russian language is a new phenomenon. Russian developed under the influence of the CHURCH SLAVIC, who beat the official in the Russian church, and the racial society revolved and grew near the Russian church. Church Slavonic was founded by Klill and method in the dialect of the Bulgarian Slavs from Macedonia near the city of Thessaloniki. We have Bulgarians (+ Macedonians today, since they were separated from us) and there is no case system, because the Slavs (semi-Iranian anti) make up only 20% of the so-called Bulgarian (including today's 'Macedonian') people. The basis of the people is ancient Thracian (+ Traco-Macedonian Peonian paeonian) 60%. In addition, but very important, since they became the engine of the sovereignty of the population on the land which was called Bulgarian - the Turkized Iranian Proto-Bulgarians from the Balka in the Pamirs (the tribes of the Kanasubigi Asparuh-a and the Kanasubigi Kuber-a, and their brother Kanasubigi Kotrag went to the Volga and founded Volga Bulgaria, and brother Altzek went to Apennini / Italy - did you meet the Italian fashion brand BULGARI / BVULGARI?). power-having great-Bulgarians were selected for the basis of writing books of all the so-called Bulgarian (Traco-Macedonian Slovene Proto-Bulgarian) people - the Slavic language which was spoken in the region of the city of Thessaloniki in historical Macedonia, since the Proto-Bulgarians, which before the creation of Danube Bulgaria had a few more Bulgarians, they wanted to have influence over other Slavs THROUGH THE CHRISTIAN BOOKS THAT COME TO KIEV FROM BULGARIA. but, since the local Slavs lived together with the Thracians, Thraco-Macedonians, Proto-Bulgarians (Greeks, Aromanians, too), this Slavic one no longer beat that Slavic Kotori beat on the original
    Slavic lands to the north-east from the Carpathians to the Dnieper - he was already beaten up with new words, atypical for the Slovenes of Ukraine, Belarus, Bad, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia. the roots of the Russian language are preserved and yet
    roots in Kiev (that is, in Russian DE-FACTO Ukrainian roots), but the trunk, branches, leafing, color are NOT ALREADY UKRAINIAN since the scattered people went their own way different from Kiev. and in the church has a contribution
    Slavic old Bulgarian. Our grammar is now different, since we have different roots, but 60% OF WORDS IN RUSSIAN AND BULGARIAN IS THE SAME. Ukraine is the land of the beginning of all slavs. by this logic - there are no polonisms in the Ukrainian-Belarusian, and the Traco-Macedonian Turkic-Iranian-Proto-Bulgarian 'Bulgarians' in Russian.
    1. -4
      4 October 2011 17: 19
      WELL NO CANNOT BE AN EGG BEFORE THE CHICKEN, THERE IS NO SUCH UNDERSTANDING AS THE UKRAINIAN STATE THIS ARTIFICIALLY TEMPORARILY CREATED CONGROMERESS WITHOUT HISTORY AND THE FUTURE SHOULD BE ALREADY SEEN ALREADY
      1. Graaf
        -3
        5 October 2011 17: 57
        ... mistaken dear! The artificially created conglomerate is not just Ukraine, but the Rasse state. All the courtiers of Russia fought and gathered the occupied lands under the authority of the Russian crown. Take a textbook on the history of Russia and carefully read, it is just there that we are talking about colonization and enslavement of peoples and occupied territories. There can be no talk of the liberation movement of these territories (the Bashkirs, Udmurts, Cossacks, Bulgars and other nations and nationalities lived there), because to fill the treasury, maintain the army, pay salaries and other financial issues, new territories were needed, with a new population, with new financial opportunities (in the form of paying taxes to the treasury of Moscow Russia). By the way, the Kiev princes did the same, the whole history of that period shows through the wars for the right to have in their submission the most extensive territory with which, in modern terms - you can download loot. It's funny, but this dough swinging system has a place to be now, which we see every day. Read carefully. And therefore, to talk about an artificially temporarily created conglomerate (no matter how you like it, history is science and accurate, and Kievan Rus was formerly Moscow Russia) without history is a controversial fact. And about ... dirtying your pants - well, my friend, you know better - how to remove them later.
        1. Joker
          -3
          5 October 2011 18: 03
          Quote: GRAAF
          how would you not like, history is science and accurate,


          - ..
        2. -3
          8 October 2011 23: 55
          really for such nonsense and make a story dunce and the count was called the senior assistant of the younger groom
    2. NUT
      NUT
      -5
      4 October 2011 19: 00
      verily from this place the Russian land began
    3. mar.tira
      -3
      5 October 2011 11: 20
      I will not even ask where you got this "knowledge". I just want to say that the civilization of peoples is progressing in everything. Including in updating the language of communication between peoples. The fact that the language of modern Russian people differs from the ancient means that people have found a language convenient for communication, and understandable to all peoples. I think in 200 years the Russian language will be understandable to everyone, as it will adapt to the realities of the modern world. And it is completely incomprehensible to the people of the Middle Ages. And in your opinion, we should descend to the cave image life, and observe the language of the ancient Slavs?
      1. -5
        5 October 2011 11: 52
        Judging by the text, Mr. Sobibor himself is not tightly Russian. And somewhere climbs something there to discuss. You, dear, first master the language you write about and write so that you can be understood without a dictionary.

        Apparently, the Bulgarian brother ... Therefore, it is clear (with difficulty, really) that all Russians from Bulgaria have gone. Anyway.

        This is all somewhat reminiscent of the everyday version, when mom and dad raised a child, and then runs up (in 15-20 years) a crowd of relatives, and tell each other how they raised their children. Fe ...

        Question: why the heck are Bulgarians in this subject?
        1. raf
          -4
          7 October 2011 18: 57
          Banshee at Sobibor, but something flashed about Cyril and Methodius, and so I remembered how during the perestroika the Bulgarians accused Russia of stolen their saints from the Bulgarians! So in Bulgaria there are those offended by Russia! Apparently this is where the Bulgarians are!
    4. raf
      -4
      7 October 2011 18: 46
      sobibor from what you wrote, I almost did not understand what! If you want to be understood on a Russian-language site, write in Russian!
  31. Kudrev
    -2
    6 October 2011 11: 24
    The article was written by a follower of Dr. Goebbels. The author is a fascist without any exaggeration, and this is not a common label, it is DIAGNOSIS. Everything is in exact accordance with the famous recipe for Hitler’s propaganda - the more monstrous the lie, the easier it will be believed.
  32. sirToad
    -2
    7 October 2011 06: 22
    the saddest thing is that relatives are in Ukraine. and also - boys with whom he urgently served. and some cheap srach.
    1. Graaf
      -4
      7 October 2011 18: 37
      + 1000% AGREE!
      They are relatives in Russia and Belarus, and what should I consider them enemies now?
  33. -3
    7 October 2011 13: 52
    Malorosy as Belorosy eventually pour back and there will be one great RUSSIA !!! smile
  34. SAVA555.IVANOV
    -4
    7 October 2011 22: 02
    In general, the Zaporizhzhya Sich consisted mainly of fugitive peasants from Russia of different peoples, were fugitive and from Poland, but small, so that we are brothers and a point
    1. senya
      -4
      7 October 2011 23: 41
      the first mention of kakzak in Russian chronicles in the 15th century ... I do not remember word for word ... during the campaign of the Grand Duke of Moscow to Kazan Vasily ... Ryazan Cossacks and Mordovians on skis are mentioned ... in the troops of the Prince of Moscow
  35. senya
    -5
    7 October 2011 23: 45
    “Having come to them (Tatars), they are Mordovians, on their mouths, with sulits and with slings and sabers, and the Cossacks of Ryazan are also fucking, on the other hand.” Here are some news in which we find the name of the Cossacks: in 1492
  36. Tyumen
    -5
    8 October 2011 16: 26
    Cossacks even then went to fuck?

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