If tomorrow is war, if tomorrow is a campaign ...

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If tomorrow is war, if tomorrow is a campaign ...


It is known from the documents of the military archives that the 1941 war of the year that has begun has caused various feelings and deeds of the population of the USSR - from the readiness to protect their land, relatives and close people to fear, bewilderment and panic.

From the memoirs of veterans, books, films, we know a lot about the political and economic conditions of the pre-war Soviet Union. The surrender of the TRP norms (ready for work and defense) for young people was not so much a duty as a need to prove their physical and moral preparedness for life, the defense of their beloved Motherland. Conducted general training of the population in military operations, including the ability to handle weapons, medical care, evacuation schemes were developed. In one of the most popular songs of those years were the words: "If tomorrow is a war ....". All were convinced that the Red Army was the strongest of all, more prepared and has the best weapons. And the fact that the long-awaited victory was paid for by millions of human lives, the destruction of thousands of cities, tens of thousands of villages and villages requires us, the descendants of the victors, to think about protecting our state.

We, the people of the new generation, who do not think of their life without a mobile phone, a computer with access to the world wide web - the Internet, a TV set, a convenient and fast means of transportation - a car.

Imagine that in one instant the whole set of civilization will stop, stop, turn off and you will not immediately understand that the war has begun. You will not be able to contact your children, parents. The streets will be cluttered with abandoned cars and blocked by military vehicles and army barriers, will suddenly light up at home, which will increase the fear and panic of the people. The military will call for calm, but scared, people who do not understand will break through the cordons of the military, they will not be stopped by the number of people running around.

Suddenly, the radio stations will receive even more receivers, television sets and the announcer in a monotonous voice will read the same message that the Russian government has resigned, and Islamic terrorists have seized power.

Everyone will be ordered to either be at home or register, which for many can end in tragedy.

Western countries will immediately decide to intervene in the conflict in order to protect the population.

The surviving residents will pray that some order will appear ... ..

You can say that this situation is unlikely that time is now different. When you imagine that people are exploding at home, people are dying - delusion quickly disappears.

Until this terrible scenario becomes a reality, it is necessary to be prepared for the worst scenario.

The way mobilization training is organized at the present time convinces us that the majority of the population does not know what to do when attacking a country. The people, as always, rely on the hereditary ability to defeat any enemy. Only need to consider historical the lessons of these victories are significant human and material losses, a long recovery of the country.

We hope that the leaders of the country have taken care to effectively repel aggression, no matter how high the technology used by the enemy, so that the weapons available in our army will allow us to repel the attack on the far borders and to protect the population as much as possible.

We hope for the ability of our politicians and diplomats to exclude even the very possibility of aggression against our Motherland.

Some actions of the authorities cause questions and bewilderment.

Why is there no educational program for the public on how to act in the event of an enemy attack? Or the leadership is indifferent to the fate of the people in case of emergency?

Why formed sniper units are trained in action in urban environments?

Why did the military exercises “Center - 2011” focus on methods of dealing with terrorists, and not confronting external threats?

What explains the purchase for the fabulous sums of foreign military equipment of NATO countries?

Why are Israeli Drones, not adapted to work in the climatic conditions of our country, while curtailing its own production?



Discouraging and outraged by the news that the Ministry of Defense, refusing to buy AK-74, deprived the work of the residents of the town-forming enterprise in Izhevsk.

The Ministry of Defense, carrying out military reforms in terms of redrawing the organization and structure of the country's Armed Forces, did not convince the citizens of the state of the need for this, and most importantly, that these changes would strengthen Russia's defense capability.

There are many questions, but there are no answers. Therefore, the above scenario does not seem so incredible.

The country's leadership is planning to re-equip the Russian army during 2011-2020. The astronomical sum of 22 trillion rubles is allocated for this. Of these, 80% for new weapons and 20% for development.

Our country has always been famous for talented designers and craftsmen. The developments of specialists in the field of creating military equipment are surprising and admiring.

The Russian fighter 5 generation T-50 PAK FA exceeds the American equivalent of the F-22 in weight, cost, flight range without refueling and requires a minimum length of the runway. At joint exercises, the Russian SU-35C fighter shot down an analogue of the American production F-35, preventing him from even getting closer to launch an attack. The SU-34 front bomber was baptized in 2008, completely destroying Georgian air defense in three days. The newest models of combat helicopters are equipped with unique weapons and equipment, allowing them to effectively carry out the tasks of destroying the enemy on the ground and in the air.



Thanks to their weapons, missile submarine cruisers of the new generation can become a reliable shield against external attack, their missiles can overcome the most modern enemy missile defense.

The Russian Air Force bomber, the White Swan Tu-160, is admirable. The aircraft is able to fly without refueling 14 thousand. Km and reaches the territory of America in three hours.

A reliable nuclear shield can be new developments of designers of rocket technology.

Decades of constant change in the country have stratified and divided society. Most of the country's population does not live, but constantly struggles for their lives, seeking for means of subsistence. The younger generation is disoriented and has neither the knowledge nor the ability to survive in the event of an attack of external enemies. Negative processes occurring in the army make it far from attractive to young citizens of the country.

In such conditions, the formation of moral principles, the establishment of principles and the cultivation of love for the motherland among the younger generation of the country is impossible. And, therefore, there is no certainty that they will be able to win in the event of external aggression.

Military schools of all types of troops are being reduced, and in the near future the country will face the problem of the lack of professional army personnel.

In any war man wins. Of course, it is important that the Russian defender have the most advanced military equipment of the highest class. But no less important are the personal qualities of each warrior - to be skillful, courageous, to possess the knowledge and skills necessary to perform combat missions, to possess high moral and moral qualities.

It is known that the army and the people are inseparable. Therefore, reforming and re-equipping the Armed Forces of Russia is impossible without positive changes in Russian society, the rise of the national economy.
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  1. piwnik22rus
    -2
    3 October 2011 07: 54
    Another commercial. If everything would be so.
    1. LESHA pancake
      -1
      3 October 2011 15: 50
      in any case, you need to put pressure on the opponent’s psyche with similar videos. The opponent needs time to determine which weapon is dangerous for him.
    2. +11
      3 October 2011 20: 26
      Although advertising, everyone who respects himself and his homeland should think that this is possible in our country as well. The experience of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and African countries shows that, paradoxically, the enemy is not asleep. Remember the repeated statements of various Western politicians that Russia has too many minerals and it is time to continue to share in this spirit. Remember our Army, its new look. Everyone condemns that the Red Army was not ready to repel aggression. But at present, we can, and even with great difficulty, fight only against Georgia. Against a normal serious opponent, we are weaklings. Some will disagree. And in vain. During the war, more than 1 million of our compatriots served with the Nazis. How much will it be now? We have 200 thousand deviators, and they are supported by parents, relatives, friends and friends of friends. Here you have the minimum number of not quite friends of our country, i.e. us with you. Our current rulers only save on everything in the army, but build bridges, host Olympiads, organize world championships and other stupid events that the people don’t really need. And the people continue to live in poverty, in barns, and get drunk. But this does not bother any of the rulers. Their beloved and unique EdRo party enacts one law after another, which are anti-people. But for some reason we are running to the polls and, according to officials, fully support their anti-people course. DAM declares that it chooses the people whom it trusts to rule, but everyone already knows who will be president and prime minister, which party will occupy the leading constitutional majority in the Duma. And the tandem members lack the courage to admit that they are no longer the actual leaders of the people of Russia. That those officials who now support them and stand up with applause at their entrance, if the power changes, will even more actively support others. In Ulan-Ude, the mayor Aydaev. Before joining EdRo, he changed several parties. There are few of them. And here it took root. According to rumors, they are often confirmed that if Buryatia votes as it should, then the president will be taken to Moscow, and he will be appointed president of Buryatia. And that would be something he would promise GDP when he came to Buryatia. So the people choose for you !!!!
      1. Volkhov
        -2
        4 October 2011 03: 51
        They just need silence for another year. Then nothing.
      2. erik777
        +1
        22 October 2011 21: 14
        I support AleksUkr. Enemy No. 1-NATO, since its inception, has been and remains our enemy. Now NATO is deploying missile defense systems directly on the borders with Russia, only a fool believes Obama’s words that this is all just to repel the threat from Iraq. They are aimed at us.
        Yes, this is an advertising video, in which half of everything that is shown is made and developed in the USSR. 1/4 - only the modernization of Soviet weapons. And only the remaining 1/4 of the new weapons. If tomorrow is a war ... but this is not 41 years old, we do not have such patriotism (do we have it at all?) As it was then. Then the children of 14-16 years old ran away to the front to defend their homeland. We went into battle with the words "For the Motherland! For Stalin!" On June 22, the army consisted of more than 3 million people. And by mid-July it was 11 million ... In the USSR, patriotism was instilled in children from childhood: October, pioneers, Komsomols, good Soviet films and cartoons. And now children grow up on Batmen and Spidermen. Any child knows what the Statue of Liberty is, and only a few (children of the same age) know that we have a Motherland. In case of war, China can put about 100 million people under arms !!! And we ... if we're lucky 2-3 million. NATO regular army and even more.
        The disarmament of the nuclear potential of Russia and the United States is currently underway, if the United States is only at hand, because they have so many types of weapons and recruits for waging war, then this is bad for us, because only the nuclear shield is holding back and holding back the world from war for over 50 years.
        More than 80% of all weapons in the Russian Federation are a gift from Soviet times. Soldiers who have served say that they held weapons in their hands at most 3 times: on oath, and 2 times at a shooting range. We have forgotten how to not only do, we cannot even follow and support the existing equipment. The army is being destroyed by "reforms", the fleet has already been destroyed ... we had the best nuclear submarines in the world, which have no analogues in the world to this day. Torpedoes developing speeds of up to 700 km / h under water, there were 7 of these submarines (Kursk 1 of them) 2 remained.
        The USSR played a leading role on the world stage, one of 2 superpowers ... Now, all the power of Russia on the world stage is determined in kilometers of the gas and oil pipeline to the West. Now the superpower is 1-USA, it was 2, and for 20 years now they have been trying to hammer us that we are on the path of progress, that every year everything is better and better. If before we were really safe from external threats, now we can’t talk about it, there is no more bipolar world.
        1. Alexnov2001
          -2
          25 October 2011 22: 53
          Torpedoes, developing 700 km / h under water ... This is of course cool!
    3. ytqnhfk
      -2
      4 October 2011 09: 20
      No, it’s not advertising, it’s true that corvettes launch boats as well (bore) I don’t know everything about helicopters. I saw some types of performance characteristics below, but I think this is our trick (they always sell weaker for export than they supply to our troops). Well, and about the data they didn’t give any! In order to understand how effective this is against the analogues of foreign countries, you need to know their characteristics and possibilities!
    4. borkovn
      -4
      4 October 2011 18: 24
      Congratulations to you for these words.
  2. ZEBRASH
    +8
    3 October 2011 07: 54
    I can only agree that the TRP is a good idea, and, in my opinion, a necessary one. I won’t discuss the rest
  3. Motherland
    -2
    3 October 2011 08: 18
    It would be nice to increase the service life in the army, I would gladly serve 2,5-3 years, in any case, I would have taught more and better. TRUE, and in truth a very good thing now, there is a weak alternative to it - these are military patriotic sections. although it may be a little exaggerated, but raise pride and the level of patriotism.
    1. Volkhov
      +1
      3 October 2011 10: 31
      Serve 3 months.
      1. Motherland
        -7
        3 October 2011 10: 34
        Not served at all
        1. Volkhov
          +1
          3 October 2011 16: 19
          Don’t judge what you don’t know - 1 year is better for a conscript shooter, and specialists should serve for a long time under a contract - otherwise it is only a waste of time and money.
          1. 0
            4 October 2011 08: 42
            He served the 2 of the year, and I’ll say with confidence that the service begins after the 1 of the year. Before the perestroika, more money was allocated to the army than now. And the Geneva Convention decided to have a certain percentage of special forces, landing, marines, etc. But in the USSR, in order to get around this misunderstanding, practically all the troops were trained according to one scheme - hand-to-hand combat, parachute jumping, shooting from various weapons and much more. The difference in the fighters was only in uniform. You just check out what kind of defense would be organized at that time if in each the village was a lot trained fighters. The situation now is discouraging, one hope for the Russian winter)
          2. -7
            5 October 2011 00: 58
            a fairy tale wizard you yourself then served that you cheerfully reason the campaign you are from boltologists if you understand the arrows
        2. Mesniy
          -3
          4 October 2011 10: 06
          Everyone understood it right away. Say this in the barracks - they will strangle you with footcloths.
          1. -1
            4 October 2011 10: 21
            What did they all understand? They would strangle you Guy-Gu! And what, let me ask you, prompted you to such an absurd conclusion?
            1. SAVA555.IVANOV
              -4
              4 October 2011 10: 25
              HE IS ALSO A PATRIOT AND LOVES OUR FORMER USSR, ONLY CRITICALLY CONFIGURED))))))
        3. andr4ew
          -3
          4 October 2011 17: 27
          health does not allow everyone
        4. Mesniy
          -4
          4 October 2011 20: 59
          Motherland,
          It would be nice to increase the service life in the army, I would gladly serve 2,5-3 years
          Son, when they call you, and you get into the barracks, immediately say this to the old-timers, and all the rest will be in the shekolada! am
          1. -5
            5 October 2011 01: 06
            spirits they are spirits as they do not increase their term they can not serve without a mother
      2. -5
        5 October 2011 01: 03
        3 months, so you’re a spirit or a mutilator, my son served in intelligence for reconnaissance, and the sergeant guy in training in the Kolomna drove fires and extinguished 3 months you’d like to look at such heroes live, and after training he got into gyumri and his co-service in 201 crew in tachikiston shut up please
    2. misim
      -3
      8 October 2011 00: 22
      I agree, and I support, many do not support these statements and opinions, but it’s a pity ... Young people have gone sluggish, skinny like shrimps it’s scary to call such people to drill ...
  4. +2
    3 October 2011 08: 21
    No one is going to defend their homeland ... Young people after playing Call of Duty are only capable of domestic violence, they rest and complain in the army for a year (as in wartime the prosecutor’s office is going to accept their complaints, otherwise commanders will pick them up for battle). Our rulers, when attacked, drape to their overseas villas. In the meantime, they will show us single samples of new equipment and sell it abroad.
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      +15
      3 October 2011 08: 44
      You are smart you know you are younger and !!! ????? We are also pulling my strap in Arman. 2 friends in Ingushetia in 2010 died. And your fucking generation fucking the USSR fucked up for cola Chinese jeans and porn, smart guys you shit pancake not in authority pissed away the country, all sit straight and do not blame because my generation will have to restore everything that you have stretched and drunk (and the authorities do not need to blame, they would have wanted to save the country then, sorry I was a baby then). You hob add how many decades of work is now needed to restore everything and ??? !!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. Motherland
        -2
        3 October 2011 09: 50
        Consider that generation also nothing to do with their brainwashing properly ... And the youth really want to honestly work for the country
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          +9
          3 October 2011 10: 08
          So there’s nothing to pour slops on us, we are young while many still receive education. And in the world see what’s going on a. Everything is going to hell soon there will be such wars, and my generation reminds me of veterans when the country needs to be restored and all the freaks in the face for their homeland are given. I think we will also someday sit as veterans and heroes of labor, but it will be later and now we need to learn. By the way, science, my generation has already begun to move slowly, I know what I'm talking about, just everything in front of my eyes and so on.
          1. Motherland
            -5
            3 October 2011 10: 31
            I don’t pour anything, I am still learning, and in the future I will give in the face for the Motherland.
            1. Alexey Prikazchikov
              -3
              3 October 2011 10: 36
              Okay, sorry, I just can’t. After the Caucasus, I tear the roof off scary looking for some 2 seconds.
              1. oper66
                +1
                4 October 2011 18: 36
                reactive psychosis syndrome - the result of post-traumatic or psychic shock transferred to assaative irritants, the Vietnamese syndrome, when not provoked, passes through an indefinite period of time in the absence of a constant irritant and not looping in the past
          2. oper66
            +2
            4 October 2011 18: 30
            Lech, my advice to you as an older major, yes, and even on this site keep the fervor many there are former military men, but it’s not like they didn’t even see the horrors of war, for them shouting drunk in the gateway is like thunder, throw off the fervor and reduce the syndrome with respect j
            oper66
        2. -9
          3 October 2011 20: 29
          Work for the country, but not in Russia. Ask university graduates! Then you will change your opinion.
      2. SAVA555.IVANOV
        +4
        3 October 2011 10: 47
        PATRIOT AND IN YOUR MICRO-DISTRICT SELL DRUG? ADDRESSERS SEE EVERY DAY SKIES AND! YOU FOR YOUR CONTEMPORARIES TO DECLINE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOU WILL SELL THE ASSEMBLY OF YOUR DOGS AND LOOK AT WHEN ONE SHOPPING, PUNISH AT LEAST ONE ROOM, SO YOU WILL LEARN THIS UNIT FOR YOU. AND DON'T JUDGE THE SENIORS WHEN YOU DID NOT DO ANYTHING, WE PASSED THE COUNTRY? You hit us in the back and you will try that you would not judge
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          +5
          3 October 2011 11: 20
          I don’t know how in the microraens of your shit, but in the 90s, shit was in bulk. I’m alive on the outskirts, if you don’t take it, Krasnoyarsk is in Siberia, and so my area, and not even a few in the 90s, were the most miserable cops there, in principle. Syringes used to lie right in the stairwell. I remember how a kid from the third used high school students raped right in the entrance, the guard was shorter. Now it’s probably the quietest areas of the city. At night, gazelles from dozi’s with armed cops constantly travel. I DO NOT UNDER UAZ AND GAZelle. Alcoholics and homeless people to the heap used to be everywhere everywhere, and it’s not uncommon to see them. And the districts themselves have become very clean. Our city of identity has changed a lot and prettier youngsters with beer before in bulk it was so well you see horseradish too. The Shalawas have all been either from Uraine or from China. Well, those constantly press raids spend. And with regards to youth, much depends on the parents, gave birth to educate and you can not give birth then. And about being stabbed in the back, I’ll say they would like to smash this tattered Kremlin to shreds because they wanted it because. Passive you and we are different. With regards to the army, I will say so much has changed very much specifically on my example, if we say so to us even as people were treated. And the armament and uniform are new even sports suits for physical education issued. They lived in cubicles, fed themselves with one word, even in everything changes. Personally, I’m calm for the army.
          1. SAVA555.IVANOV
            -6
            3 October 2011 12: 01
            OUR PEOPLE (THE FORMER USSR) HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO DISCIPLINE AND SUBMISSION OTHERWISE AND IT COULD NOT BE ONE ENEMIES ONLY, IT IS VISIBLE VERY GOOD NOW. THEIR DUTIES fused with ETNOPRESTUPNIKAMI and destroy STATE NATION -Russian, Soviet ROD, SUCH QMS AND SITE VERY MUCH HERE THEY ARE cLEVER, threatened, cursed, BUT THEIR DUTIES THEY DO NOT WANT TO EXECUTE THEIR SALE prostitutes))) They "woodpecker" NOT UNDERSTAND THAT TOMORROW THEIR CHILDREN WILL BE SELLING AT THE BAZARA, JUDAS
            1. Alexey Prikazchikov
              +4
              3 October 2011 12: 16
              Guy, well, have a drink, sedative, Lord, go get some sleep, probably red eyes from sleepless nights. Go outside for a walk chtol well get a kopeck piece for yourself if from the doves then a boy. Well, you don’t need to whine, I wrote specifically about my life; let’s comment on it, but why don’t I go on that thing. And by the way, you would be about to sell me there you would say. I’ll tell you what when our bmdeha was shelled, three children pulled us out of it - Ingush (16 boy, his brother is 11 years old and his sister is 11 years old), they saved us, consider it like this, and here you are treating me for something that kindles hatred. People they are people everywhere and shit everywhere is enough.
              1. SAVA555.IVANOV
                -13
                3 October 2011 13: 05
                THERE IS BECAUSE OF THOSE AS INTERESTED IN PEDICS, TOLERANT GUYS, YOU ARE NOW WHATING TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY THAT EVERYTHING IS NOT LIKE AND YOU ARE DESTROYED AND SUCH AS I COME TO YOU. IF PEOPLE EVERYWHERE PEOPLE SO WHY ARE YOU NOT RELAXING IN THE CAUCASUS WITH YOUR GIRLS ?! YES AND THE CITY OF SKY WHAT DOES DIASPORA HOLD? GO SMART "KEEP" THE MARKET ANYWHERE IN THE CAUCASUS. YES AND IT WAS NOT HEARING ABOUT THE REWARDING OF THESE CHILDREN FOR YOUR SALVATION, TRY TO ACHIEVE AND THEN YOU WILL BE BELIEVED AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE A GRATEFUL PERSON
                1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                  +8
                  3 October 2011 13: 33
                  Firstly, I don’t like normal fagots, I just don’t like them, I’m just sorry they are moral invalids and don’t understand this myself; secondly, I’m father-in-Russian German (she is from the former German Democratic Republic), but I consider myself Russian. Secondly, there is such a term nation in a nation includes many Russian peoples, this is a nation but not a nation, if we create an empire and not a mono-ethnic country like Ukraine or Estonia, then we must create a nation and unite all Russian peoples, this is a tree trunk, its roots are the rest of the branches. The Czechs of Dagi and the rest of the Caucasians will also enter there, but as equals, and if we get hold of it we will quickly get this arrogance for the first time. Well, of course, the second way is that genocide can be destroyed by all non-Russians, but what scum you need to be in order to consider this option, I don’t even know. And the one who talks about dressing up the Caucasus is not a traitor; you shed blood for him; it was for us to judge who was there. And thirdly, who needs these kids, we got to us, they dialed us up to half an hour, and that’s all. We really didn’t remember the names; I only remember Zulfiya and that’s it. And by the way, our markets are all covered and our government in our city forbade all non-citizens of the Russian Federation to sell their products on the markets. And so that the resellers did not buy food from the peasants and did not sell them to the trident, they created a network of stores. Clean meadows there all our local quality and at normal prices, because of this, many villages from the ashes began to revive.
                  1. SAVA555.IVANOV
                    -1
                    3 October 2011 14: 23
                    BTW, I AM FROM UKRAINE AND NOT RUSSIAN, THOUGHT WE HAVE THE SAME TRUTIONS ARE DIFFERENT, AND IF I SERVED IN THE NORTH ME THAT NOW DECIDES HER AND ALL THOSE WHO WASN'T WELL ()) FOR THIS SETTLE LIFE, YOU HAVE GIVEN YOUR PEOPLE AND LIFE FROM OUR GENERATION TO YOU NOW FOR 40
                    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                      -4
                      3 October 2011 14: 37
                      And then what if you have a lot of people there and then we have chtol so should take a photo Krasnoyarsk admire which city. We in Siberia do not particularly like vsklybok vskih, and there is no such confusion. Well, what about the beautiful wrote, wrote what I see and what I think about, I have nothing to be ashamed of. And by the way, you don’t have to save up different things about the north and the Caucasus, we were drowning in blood there, and you, in the worst case, in a sheepskin coat, stood on the tower and that’s all. Sincerely.
                      1. SAVA555.IVANOV
                        -5
                        4 October 2011 10: 45
                        Say thank POLITSII- POLICE has not performed his duties with taking bribes from PLEASURE chocks when they commit crimes, pose as a business and OBORZET ALLOWED SOME nations and they began to put himself above others, because YOU the bullets and send conscripts because they themselves crap ONLY THE PEOPLE AND THERE IS A GREAT WARRIOR, AND ALL THESE "SPECIALISTS" CAN ONLY IN PEACEFUL TIME Mock people, AND IF AN ENEMY WOULD COME AT US IN MY TIME FROM THE NORTH ?? YOU PROBABLY HAS BEEN LITTLE OR EVEN IN THE PROJECT WAS NOT))) WE ARE YOUR DREAM cherished each in his place and raised YOU WITH US YOUR older comrades firmly and consciously Man, it remains only to instill YOU RESPECT TO ITS SENIOR countrymen, as some PEOPLES OF SAME CAUCASUS. MUTUALLY
                      2. -4
                        5 October 2011 00: 26
                        Sava, here you are a leper, that you held a candle, I despise you, you ordinary under a pee --- shh eh -removed- you can bark and screech like a ferret
              2. Drevnij
                -6
                3 October 2011 18: 41
                Dear Alexey! here I read your skirmish with others and caught myself on the fact that even though you are learning, you are writing incorrectly with errors. I'm ashamed of your education ...
                1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                  -2
                  4 October 2011 05: 55
                  I’m in a hurry and the clave is sticking.
        2. Motherland
          -3
          3 October 2011 12: 36
          You know what it already is, I don’t know the phone, or rather I don’t remember, you call you say who the athletes come from where they beat them all if it didn’t help then they write to the FSKN.
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            -4
            3 October 2011 12: 40
            Uh, what are you talking about?
            1. Motherland
              -1
              3 October 2011 12: 45
              Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
              PATRIOT AND IN YOUR MICRO-DISTRICT SELL DRUG? ADDRESSERS SEE EVERY DAY SKIES AND! YOU FOR YOUR CONTEMPORARIES TO DECLINE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOU WILL SELL THE ASSEMBLY OF YOUR DOGS AND LOOK AT WHEN ONE SHOPPING, PUNISH AT LEAST ONE ROOM, SO YOU WILL LEARN THIS UNIT FOR YOU. AND DON'T JUDGE THE SENIORS WHEN YOU DID NOT DO ANYTHING, WE PASSED THE COUNTRY? You hit us in the back and you will try that you would not judge

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              1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                -3
                3 October 2011 12: 59
                Clearly, thanks, I will know if that. Although I say we have fewer drug addicts, it just became something to compare with.
                1. Motherland
                  -3
                  3 October 2011 14: 34
                  There are few addicts, and those who rarely but consume a lot ...
                  1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                    -3
                    3 October 2011 15: 00
                    It’s how rarely he uses drugs, it’s not alcohol, it rarely doesn’t work out such a breakup, then there will be mothers not scorching.
                    1. Motherland
                      -3
                      3 October 2011 15: 05
                      I don’t know, I’m familiar with some who drink it, but not very often, but of course I drink and smoke all kinds of rubbish, but the former athletes ...
                      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
                        -3
                        3 October 2011 15: 54
                        Well, maybe the streoids or something else there but just like that once again it’s just impossible I’ve seen nariks with half-rotten veins, as the regime didn’t accept all the buy-by.
                      2. Motherland
                        -3
                        3 October 2011 15: 59
                        Not stroyoyda it certainly is hash, etc. They don’t inject but smoke or NES, Yaga, etc.
                  2. andr4ew
                    -4
                    4 October 2011 17: 41
                    drink vodka better than feed the French
                    1. Motherland
                      -3
                      4 October 2011 18: 39
                      This is not for me, but for the acquaintances I don’t use.
          2. -4
            4 October 2011 06: 43
            Motherland, you are an ulcer on a healthy body of patriotism, but a cool ulcer wink
            1. Motherland
              -4
              4 October 2011 11: 27
              And what is the ulcer ??? wink
        3. -7
          5 October 2011 00: 29
          By the way, the surname of Ivanov is not rusky, it is an acquired nickname appropriated from pseudonyms or by persons with a strong nationality as commisaro pravdin, etc. you are a Jew
          1. Motherland
            -3
            5 October 2011 10: 55
            Quote: opium21
            By the way, the surname of Ivanov is not rusky, it is an acquired nickname appropriated from pseudonyms or by persons with a strong nationality as commisaro pravdin, etc. you are a Jew

            Is this addressed to whom?
            1. -4
              9 October 2011 02: 47
              ivanvu555save
      3. oper66
        -2
        3 October 2011 15: 13
        Aleksey about the bombing of the BMD, I realized that there was an urgent strike in Ingushetia and took part in the KTO, participated in a military exit, or they just fired at you and how they left you not shot, I realized that your car was alone and in Ingushetia which is forbidden. clarify the situation without offense and even the question of how the conscript took part in the battle or did you bass
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          -1
          3 October 2011 16: 01
          2 bmdekhi and a local UAZ, some bureaucrats sapravazhdali said they sat down and drove off questions, we didn’t ask anyway, and these children went for wild garlic by chance, I honestly can’t put my mind to it, and still wonder why they started to help. It was just that the guys on the second car reacted quickly, heavy fire to the side from where the fire was fired and started to start so they probably escaped, but I had to drive my friend inside. Then, before the control, they somehow pulled the freak out of this, they stole it there. themselves in part.
          1. oper66
            -1
            3 October 2011 16: 13
            understand, thanks for clarifying good luck
      4. 0
        3 October 2011 21: 15
        at the expense of prosrallly
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    2. LESHA pancake
      -2
      3 October 2011 15: 52
      what the . .
      Your family will begin to cut you without hesitation rush to save her.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        -3
        3 October 2011 17: 01
        So are you me?
    3. -3
      3 October 2011 21: 07
      cool to do let's go to the partisans hi are looking for all over the country, but for now we will be looking from under tishka we will swim to Britain and blow up the big ben! funny isn't it? but if you look at the "terrorist" countries, many think so. one thing scares us if we didn't have to think so seriously
  5. Mahamont
    +1
    3 October 2011 08: 41
    NVP should be returned to school. I even remember what it's called).
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      +3
      3 October 2011 09: 04
      So my brother, 11th grader, returned him and they teach Kalash to disassemble it, but in my filthy childhood he wasn’t jealous of me
      1. -3
        3 October 2011 09: 14
        Not everywhere returned, unfortunately ...
        And in my childhood (USSR) we had a shooting gallery at a school (on the 3 school of the district), so there they also shot from small pieces. Not often, but still ...

        The ability to assemble, disassemble a machine gun - yes, not bad, but still it’s far from important.
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          0
          3 October 2011 09: 42
          Damn, I gave an example, all the more so in our school in Krasnoyarsk military patriotic clubs cooperate there all sorts of field exits, then in part they go on excursions to shoot a celebration they drive, but not often.
        2. Sergh
          -2
          3 October 2011 10: 29
          Novel, for sure, for sure!
          In the late 70s, I finished school, so I was on the shooting team. We had an excellent man on the CWP, he always walked in uniform, I don't remember, I think he was a major. And we had a shooting gallery in the basement, it was excellent, they did it themselves, so he already gave us two melkans, four packs of cartridges (I’m not lying) and went about his business (trusted), so we prayed for him like that, until we burp shot ... And put boxes and pyromids. Right now, I remember my personal best = 96 points out of a hundred, then I got the badge "Sharpshooter". Well, we went to the districts to compete, everything was interesting. And then they drove to the army training ground from Kalash to shoot, so the girls did not give us a descent. Oh, the time was ... so I think I can still fight if I press!
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            -1
            3 October 2011 10: 34
            It was not his brother who boasted that they were taken to the training ground with a mabuta from the Akameev insects and were allowed to shoot.
            1. Sergh
              -2
              3 October 2011 11: 06
              Yes, it is normal! Anyway, at this age I didn’t understand anything at once. Then, after a week or three came. And now I remember a dream! This is normal, it pleases, not always all at once, but it’s not necessary.
          2. 0
            3 October 2011 11: 38
            I read and remembered, after the "lightning" the "eaglet" rolled. AK at the school there were 4 pieces, they scattered and collected in a moment, the cadets of the military school learned the chips from us. The military instructor was a retired n / a Luchnoi, the earth was down to the ground. to the regional eaglet, the district ones won, from the AKM they fired at the military school 3 times a week. The school has its own shooting range at 50 m, and officers from the neighboring military unit from the PM. A shooting circle, a bunch of sports sections, after school the expected result is 80% of the boys in military schools. Such were the cases ...
          3. -2
            3 October 2011 12: 35
            I also have such an icon, I still keep it. Definitely we will be able to make war, especially if we press it.
            1. Shqvarqi
              -1
              3 October 2011 16: 46
              Heh, I still remember how our military instructor forced me to crawl around gas masks in gas masks ..
              Then they swear, but I remember with a smile :)
  6. Maksim
    -3
    3 October 2011 09: 10
    Russia has a powerful air defense, missile defense, aviation, artillery and ground forces. etc. For example, the first days of the war with Libya, the United States and NATO launched air strikes on radars and airfields. current. so, first of all, our Homeland needs air defense - missile defense. Then we can improve artillery and so on.
    1. Volkhov
      -2
      3 October 2011 16: 47
      What makes you think that Russia is preparing for war with NATO? Open your eyes - and the army and politicians are preparing for joint action with them.
      1. Maksim
        -1
        21 October 2011 16: 23
        if - if everything were so - just b recourse
    2. Maksim
      -1
      22 October 2011 09: 43
      still can not understand what wrote
  7. Motherland
    -1
    3 October 2011 09: 56
    All this is the best. Now the wars begin with gaining dominance in the air and we are not Libya, we all have it, so that all of their soldiers are only in tombs and they cannot return home in any other way, they know that they won’t lose, they will lose even in tens of times more will be. They just wait until we perish ourselves completely. We already belong to endangered nations, and this is unfortunately a fact.
    1. -4
      4 October 2011 00: 23
      Like almost all European nations. Their population growth occurs only at the expense of migrants. http://rezonans.ucoz.ru/publ/3-1-0-16
      And here's an interesting reference: http://ateismy.net/tube/play/Liberalism/Demography
  8. Owl
    +1
    3 October 2011 09: 59
    In Russia there are "leaders" who can in the event of the outbreak of riots. will be asked to send US and NATO troops to guard nuclear facilities, officers of the air defense on duty will carry out the "order of the supreme" and let the C-5, C-17, etc., to land at the country's airfields.
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      -3
      3 October 2011 10: 17
      Crazy yes.
      1. Owl
        -1
        3 October 2011 10: 40
        I would like to believe you
        1. Motherland
          -3
          3 October 2011 10: 49
          It is unlikely that in the event of a war, ordinary soldiers will fight for a tandem. As soon as it begins, all power will disappear and there will be few officers and not generals who were simply sitting on communications like that.
    2. -3
      4 October 2011 23: 56
      One of the real scenarios. And the pendos technology has already worked perfectly in Ukraine, Iraq, Georgia, Ossetia, Yugoslavia, Libya, Egypt. We will be glad that NATO has arrived!
  9. Ion coaelung
    -2
    3 October 2011 10: 12
    You give training seminars to educational institutions on survival, tactical actions, the principle of weapon operation and daily lessons on Country Strike to develop reaction, tactics and intuition !!!
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      -1
      3 October 2011 12: 42
      Ks is not suitable for this, but airsoft is not bad at all in combination with armed assault 2 and constant physical training, plus the study of the mate part, it’s what the doctor ordered.
      1. -2
        3 October 2011 12: 58
        That's it ... And useful, and almost pleasant.
        Especially fresh air, lack of alcohol, exercise, plus some experience ...
    2. -2
      3 October 2011 15: 22


      This is, as I understand it, an agit poster designed for Kazakhstan
      1. Motherland
        -5
        3 October 2011 18: 24
        We would like
        1. -5
          6 October 2011 13: 27
          It’s not a problem to print posters, it’s a lot of money going to the polls, soon everything around you will soon become full of faces with yer muzzles .. The problem is that the authorities don’t need it. Well, they do not need patriots who know how to hold weapons in their hands and in which case protect the country ...
          1. Motherland
            -4
            6 October 2011 13: 44
            Yes, and this is sad, before all the residents were ready even now to take weapons and go into battle, but now more and more people are found who say "it would be better if Hitler won", "The USA is the best", "Rashka is already dead" "It's time to get out of the country" and so on
  10. Joker
    -3
    3 October 2011 10: 22
    Note:
    "The Ministry of Defense, refusing to buy an AK-47,"

    - AK-47 has not been produced since about the mid-50s.
    1. -2
      4 October 2011 09: 14
      Exactly, I had the 74, and the Vietnamese ran with 47)
  11. Evil Tatar
    -3
    3 October 2011 12: 34
    Anyway, in an article of any crap I read ...
    More than half of the finger is sucked ... Damn ... Or maybe not from the finger?
  12. -1
    3 October 2011 12: 53
    The rules of the TRP to restore - definitely. NVP instead of BZD - also unequivocally, taking into account the depopulation of the indigenous population of Russia, the hour is not far off when everyone with machine guns under their pillows will have to sleep, like the Israelis. To simplify the procedure for obtaining a smoothbore today, especially in border areas. The government, disarming its own population - wants to see in it only slaves, not free citizens, this is an axiom since the time of Sparta.
    1. -3
      3 October 2011 15: 22
      Yes, getting permission for a smoothbore is not very difficult right now, though for some reason it is 2 weeks to wait for a license and 2 weeks for permission, it is not clear why.
  13. -4
    3 October 2011 13: 18
    If we return to the main idea of ​​the article, I agree that the majority without mobiles and neta will simply "be lost". Who disagrees, try to refuse the phone for at least 2-3 days. This is already an addiction.
    Here are the symptoms and tips http://mirsovetov.ru/a/psychology/psychologic-trick/mobile-dependence.html
    For prevention, I sometimes "forget" my phone at home. But no: I find myself thinking that it is easier to get into no, than to take a book from the shelf and find a question of interest, I am also struggling.
    Regarding "if tomorrow is war" - I agree that the TRP needs to be restored and the obligatory presence in the school of military training lessons with all practical attributes. And also inform citizens about collection points in case of unforeseen situations, etc. (where to get weapons, medicines, where to put the wounded, where to hide, where to get protective equipment in case of chemical, radiation and biological environmental pollution). Moreover, it is necessary to know this even without any war, you never know what happens.
    The question is who will take responsibility for organizing these events.
    1. -2
      3 October 2011 14: 52
      I have not been wearing a cell phone for a month now. The first week was hard, now it’s no problem.
      1. -6
        3 October 2011 15: 18
        Most of my friends would consider this a fantasy. Congratulations.
      2. -2
        3 October 2011 15: 25
        Maybe financial problems? fellow
        1. -7
          6 October 2011 13: 38
          You can joke, but how much can you do without a phone?
    2. -3
      3 October 2011 15: 29
      Municipal authorities.
      You will not believe. In each district there is a person who is responsible for civil defense. And gets paid for it.
      Each state organization writes plans for the Civil Defense and Emergency Situations. For example, we (FIU) have gas masks, L1, an automated employee notification system.
      Only this is not seriously taken by anyone.
      1. -6
        3 October 2011 15: 55
        I will take a word.
        Quote: vlbelugin
        Only this is not seriously taken by anyone.

        Apparently you are right .. Since there is no information about these people. We sometimes have EMERCOM training, but that's what an ordinary person does in this case is unknown. From the school course - in case of a nuclear attack, cover yourself with a white sheet and crawl. From folk wisdom - to crawl right away to the cemetery ..
        1. -2
          5 October 2011 00: 02
          In the event of a nuclear attack, it’s really better to go directly to the cemetery. If you have time yet.
      2. Volkhov
        -3
        3 October 2011 16: 36
        Before writing plans, it is necessary to describe the situation, problems with this. Our civil defense is preparing for the past threat, such as bombing, and the Americans are fleeing to Afghanistan, Svalbard - from flooding. Gas mask does not replace the head.
    3. -3
      3 October 2011 20: 46
      Obviously not EdRo officials and their patrons. Yes, everything needs to be restored. But here compassionate parents, grandmothers will intervene and run to human rights defenders, and those will inflate - militarization of the country. If you are all literate and smart, then block all sites on the Internet with recommendations on how to evade military service. That would be help in defending the country at distant approaches. Dare. Motherland will not forget.
      1. -7
        6 October 2011 13: 37
        Quote: AleksUkr
        If you are all literate and smart, then block all sites on the Internet with recommendations on how to evade military service. That would be help in defending the country at distant approaches. Dare. Motherland will not forget.
        I am not a hacker, for such a fate it is necessary to talk with anonimusami, or who else is capable of such. Yes, that's not the fact that they need it. I would first of all block the EP-lies in nete blocked.
        And parents and grandmothers are unlikely to intervene in additional lessons in military training. The boys themselves will be interested, they will not complain. And grandmothers and parents now seem to be not interfering in anything, the children will soon have all the education paid, and now they will be extorted, but no, everyone is silent ... everyone is happy ...
  14. Max
    Max
    -4
    3 October 2011 13: 30
    The video attached to the article, very clearly shows the full power of the army. Very competently and in fact, walked strictly on the most powerful arguments of the sun.
    The only thing I do not completely agree with is the role that was given to the White Swans. Former pilots told me that carcasses are usually not involved in bombing, the main task will be to launch cruise missiles with nuclear warheads, not flying into the visibility range of enemy air defense.

    Z.Y. If a conflict arises, I think it’s reasonable to drop this compressed material to email to politicians who make porridge smile
    1. LESHA pancake
      -3
      3 October 2011 15: 53
      keep it up.
    2. -3
      5 October 2011 00: 07
      In general, the TU-160 was created for strikes against aircraft carrier formations of the enemy's Navy. The Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy operate on the "squares".
  15. jamert
    0
    3 October 2011 19: 52
    Now they will actively begin to minus, but ...

    Why did the military exercises “Center - 2011” focus on methods of dealing with terrorists, and not confronting external threats?


    Yes, simply because the terrorist and sabotage threat is more real than the ephemeral "hordes of NATO"

    In a joint exercise, the Russian SU-35S fighter shot down an American-made F-35 analogue, not even giving him the opportunity to move closer to launch an attack.


    Cool. What kind of joint exercises are they organizing with the use of fighters not yet in service?

    The SU-34 front-line bomber was baptized in 2008, completely destroying Georgian air defense in three days.


    Achievement, damn it ...
  16. matolyan
    -3
    3 October 2011 21: 32
    This is probably a fantasy, or not about our aircraft. While serving I saw only T-72, from artillery systems maximum 2S19 and MLRS "Grad", BMP-2 and a crappy cloud of equipment from the 70s, in a catastrophic situation with communications and battery. So the article sucks, the author would have written better about tits, he probably did better, there is no need to embellish anything !!!
  17. -2
    3 October 2011 23: 17
    And why, when reading this article, which paints everything with rainbow colors, though it does not pay attention to the destruction of the basic institutions of the army system, I remembered Yegor Letov, EVERYTHING IS GOING ON PLAN !!! ??
  18. -2
    4 October 2011 09: 58
    Well, do not forget about our not aging weapon - "Zimushka-winter". And there is still a huge territory - there is much to retreat, respectively, and time to re-form. So many wars won. It costs money to launch an offensive against Russia, this is not in Libya. sand and warmth. We have in the snowdrifts and the chill, swamps and forests, we will blow up the roads. And the supplies still remain from communist times. And the fact that it is necessary to introduce classes on CWP is of course necessary. It was no longer taught to me, but I remember with what envy we leafed through this shabby textbook. There was a lot of battle tactics, how to look out of cover, types of weapons, grenades and the radius of dispersion of fragments of one or another grenade, in general, everything that is interesting to the boy, who may catch fire suddenly a desire to join the army.
  19. -3
    4 October 2011 12: 51
    blah blah blah, go to the ass gentlemen alarmists !!!! At the first volleys, Valera and Co. will be the first to put you on the wall and it reassures .... all the best, whimper on. Elder of the 1st category inventory, mob Prescription of March 13.03.09, XNUMX
  20. -3
    4 October 2011 12: 55
    Quote: Alexej
    We have snowdrifts and chills, swamps and forests, we have eroded the roads


    What is there to undermine something? You can not repair, and so come down. Only on the tank and go.
    1. -2
      4 October 2011 13: 06
      Well, to undermine, so as not to drive on the tank) So that every occupant is stuck on the approaches!
  21. Evil Tatar
    -2
    4 October 2011 13: 21
    When I was called up in 1984, I came to the SA in Lalichi of the Primorsky Territory, fully trained ... Because there was a reserve colonel in the techie, well, a very intelligent officer! Yo! If alive - health! If not, the kingdom of heaven!
    So, what material protects most from radiation? (we will not specify from which ...):
    Concrete;
    Steel;
    Polyethylene (polypropylene, etc.)
    Lead;
    Other?
    When the officers heard my version, they rejected, out of ignorance ...
    And you say CWP ... Of course, it is necessary to renew everywhere! In schools, colleges, etc. Then "mow" will be less than a hundred pounds!
    Shooting training - required!
    I am with Ak-74 standard shooting - easy ... Out of 12 only 6 for spending on a height, half and a machine gun ... The rest, if I had time before the command "Stop firing", help a colleague ... After the field, a letter of thanks to my mother ( always), In the barracks - punishment, all the way to the guardhouse, damn it ...
    Army is THING!
    1. -3
      4 October 2011 17: 00
      And I THANK MOTHER CAME FOR SON internationalists from the recruiting office I was there 4 MEC nobody knew MA ATTACK WAS NOT READY slapped BEEN PREPARED YES WE went to serve knowing what to defend their homeland and now after HELD ideology in the country ZASCHITNIKOV- NO STUPIDITY IS NOT READY TO BELIEVE youth TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE MOTHERLAND I WORK WITH THEM AND SEND THIS TO THE SERVICE THIS ON THE KUBAN OF COURSE THIS IS NOT MOSCOW THERE AND AT OUR TIMES MOSCOWS AND SCREWS SHOULD BE QUIET AND NOW ONE MUCH WILL BE SHIPPED FRIENDLY. INA HAS THE BASIS TO BE THIS REALITY OF LIFE
  22. zczczc
    -2
    4 October 2011 13: 45
    If, God forbid, the war begins, then in two days the veil of liberal fervor will subside and everything will fall into place. Only there will be regret for the time spent ...
    1. -3
      5 October 2011 00: 15
      But the Germans have passed the half way to Moscow in a month, if we have time to wake up now ???
      1. -3
        5 October 2011 00: 21
        and what do you think they’re not afraid of tanks with machine guns, but of Russians who, with the help of such a mother, can give everyone a drink - 80 is nice to us and the whole world is Saxon Serious The worst thing is Russian hand-to-hand fighting, they’re weak at the front and their backside is already fucked up
  23. Dimanser
    -3
    4 October 2011 14: 55
    this video is certainly a balm for the heart! But this dust in the eyes is no accident !!! Perhaps they are playing for time - who needs it, someone will "vparit" this video, but we can study our opinion on the different content of the article .... in short, we need to put an armored train on a side track .. we can it's strange, but this thought has been visiting me for a while 3 years -))
    and can someone tell me the procedure for the military danger or give a reference where it says 1. do-time (store warm things) 2. do-two (store water in the bathrooms, buy cereals, matches) something like that, only rubbish from Civil defense does not offer))
    found one link - http://www.rasvet.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=333:2011-03-2
    1-08-15-20&catid=73:jarovid&Itemid=128
  24. sergkyrsant
    -2
    4 October 2011 16: 38
    Yes ... The lyrics about the TRP and CWP are certainly good) Only one thing is bad - the children are not the same as in the Union .... There is no patriotism, fire in the eyes, ideas in the soul. Degradation is taking giant strides. It is necessary to start the revival small with the same first-graders, giving spiritual "military" food gradually. We need an "idea" for our people, otherwise we will have a khan in a couple of centuries, or even faster =)
    1. ytqnhfk
      0
      5 October 2011 16: 48
      MY SON GROWS ME, I AM Proud AND I WILL GROW IT ONLY WITH RESPECT TO MY EARTH, MOTHERLAND AND NORMAL MAN WITHOUT BORROWINGS FOR OIL AND OTHER PROGRESSIVE LABUD !!! THIS IS BECAUSE THE REVIVAL NEEDS TO BEGIN WITH YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILDREN TO GET STARTED AS REASONED BY CONSCIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING HONOR, JUSTICE! HOW IT WAS HAPPENED IN A PHYSICIAN, BUT I AM SO BROUGHT UP BY myself, LIKE A LITTLE LITTLE COMPLETELY TO SAVE THIS COURSE!
  25. 916-th
    +6
    4 October 2011 19: 59
    What kind of war are you talking about? Either they recently discussed the plans of the "DropShop" half a century ago, or they argued whether the United States would achieve a decisive strategic advantage over Russia, now an introduction to Islamic aggression in the Russian expanses ...

    How many copies were broken before they came to a common denominator: the main DEATH danger for Russia is the FIFTH COLUMN of traitors, which has not disappeared after the collapse of the USSR. Successors grabbed the baton of the dismantling of the country from the Gorbachev-Yeltsin duet, and now they are also tandemly pulling Russia apart.

    The USA and NATO venture on open aggression only against frankly weak states, and even then, only after provoked internal clashes and civil wars (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, etc.). This is their win-win scenario with minimal risk and loss.

    According to this scenario, Russia is NOT RAPE YET (read - not overripe, not completely rotten), in order to dare to direct aggression against it - it can respond. It will take at least another 10-15 years for modern "effective managers" to bring it to a state of agony. Then yes, then they will come. And now the patient is more alive than dead. And before it's too late, he must be reanimated.

    PS And I don’t believe in all these plans for re-equipment of 2020 - we all see how the reform is proceeding, the state defense order is not chronically fulfilled, including this year. And 20 billion - well, a good prize for those in power!
    1. -3
      5 October 2011 00: 17
      I COMPLETELY AGREE!!!
    2. strictly prohibited
      -2
      7 October 2011 16: 35
      BUMP BROWSERS IN THE FOREVER
    3. -1
      30 October 2011 01: 52
      Quote: 916

      According to this scenario, Russia is NOT RAPE YET (read - not overripe, not completely rotten), in order to dare to direct aggression against it - it can respond. It will take at least another 10-15 years for modern "effective managers" to bring it to a state of agony.
      "- Duc just has a" strategy 2020 "for our" tandem "and EdoRosny. Together in December / March we will go down to confirm our people's blessing of this" strategy " fellow
  26. Dimanser
    -3
    4 October 2011 21: 04
    http://saveyou.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=63 всем кто ГОТОВИТЬСЯ наверное сюда))
  27. zczczc
    -4
    5 October 2011 00: 18
    And I was struck by the cost of the corvette - 10 billion rubles. And as a result, their number is only 6 ships.
  28. Dimanser
    0
    5 October 2011 09: 30
    yes, they may not risk direct aggression, but drug traffic from Afghanistan has already increased, after their presence, and we still give them "corridors" air and airfields ...
    1. ytqnhfk
      -1
      5 October 2011 16: 52
      Because while we are struggling with drugs, they produce it and sell grandmothers and did not bother anyone !! "
  29. kesa1111
    +8
    7 October 2011 00: 16
    2 people are to blame for everything that happens: the president and the prime minister. They are OBLIGED to comply with the laws and be guarantors that all public services will also comply with them. In fact, the prime minister created and headed criminal (gangster roofs) structures from the security forces. As the chief godfather-pest and CIA lackey, he systematically develops corruption and ruins the state. Prezik moronic laws trying to consolidate the transition from laws to concepts. Finding these condoms in power is disastrous for Russia.
    1. 0
      30 October 2011 01: 55
      Quote: kesa1111
      2 person is to blame for everything that happens
      - Yes, no more will be .... Usually so few are just scapegoats.
  30. strictly prohibited
    -2
    7 October 2011 16: 34
    WAR WILL GO 10 TO 40 MINUTES
  31. Russian
    -1
    8 October 2011 08: 23
    watched the video many times "The deadly weapon of Russia"from this thread
    and every time you watch, does not leave a sense of pride in our homeland.
  32. Motherland
    -3
    10 October 2011 08: 04
    Watching the video, you forget about most of the problems of the army and understand that you can sleep peacefully.
  33. lexalex
    -1
    27 October 2011 23: 18
    "The front-line bomber SU-34 was baptized by fire in 2008, completely destroying the Georgian air defense in three days" Laughter and tears, why reminded of shame ... Three days to destroy Georgian air defense ... 2-3 hours, no more - that's real term, if it was the army of the USSR, even during the times of the USSR. And how many of our people were shot down by this "destroyed air defense"? Article - pseudo-patriotic slush ... Ugh !!!
  34. 0
    30 October 2011 01: 46
    The article is good, although I pour salt on the wounds, but sometimes it is necessary: ​​you feel that you are still alive ...... wassat
    And here's the video ..... translate it, but send it to pendants, let them get scared. lol
  35. Evnon
    0
    3 January 2012 16: 17
    If tomorrow is war, if tomorrow is a campaign ...
    I think that as in 41-45 it will not work out until we repeat 14-17.
    our blood remains the same but our brains are not ((...
  36. tanker75
    0
    11 June 2013 20: 16
    As a Chelyabinsk native, I can say that the people are not ready for any war at all. The meteorite clearly showed this, in the event of a nuclear attack, the people will stupidly stare at the windows, the notification service is not ready for anything, the authorities are inactive. Neither in kindergartens, nor in schools, nor in universities have teachers been trained in anything. Ambulances, firemen and cops work only if there is a connection.
    Everything is tied to electricity, in the event of a power failure, the people simply fall into a stupor, but all that is, all due to electricity, gas, water, communication, light, information. We were just lucky that the impact force from the meteorite was not so strong, otherwise, in the month of February, at -20 at night, the millionth city simply froze.