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The foreign ministers of the "Norman Four" have agreed to create working groups in Ukraine

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The main outcome of the negotiations of the foreign ministers of the "Norman Four", which took place in Berlin, was an appeal to the Contact Group with a call to immediately create working groups on Ukraine. In addition, the parties supported the OSCE proposal to replenish the list of weapons that should be removed from the contact line.

The foreign ministers of the "Norman Four" have agreed to create working groups in Ukraine


At the same time, the topic of entering the peacekeeping contingent into the territory of Ukraine, which Kiev advanced, did not find support among the negotiators.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that the meeting was “useful,” and although “many controversial ideas” were suggested, Russia defended the agreements reached by 12 in February during the summit in Minsk.

As a result, the foreign ministers agreed that the Minsk agreements should be implemented in full, "not only in their military units, but also in the political, economic, humanitarian."

The main outcome of the talks was the decision to establish working groups on security, humanitarian issues, the political process and issues of the economic restoration of Donbass.

“We understand that the implementation of the appeal (to the contact group for the creation of working groups) will take some time, but our common determination to achieve concrete definition of all the steps agreed by our leaders is encouraging. I think that in the near future we can see concrete results, ”RIA quotes Lavrov as saying. "News".
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  1. kelevra
    kelevra April 14 2015 08: 50
    +20
    As you like, but I am against this four. Because the representatives of the DLNR must be there without fail! They are the most interested persons in the conflict, their fate is decided, they suffer human and economic losses.
    1. Finches
      Finches April 14 2015 09: 01
      +5
      The fact is that in this "four" three people do not decide anything at all, but only puff out their cheeks for the sake of importance ...! Rather, two puff out their cheeks, and the third, so, they hold him by the clown! The fourth gentleman, a diplomat to the marrow of his bones, cannot simply send the American sixes in Russian "Fuck you ...!" laughing
      1. science fiction writer
        science fiction writer April 14 2015 09: 13
        0
        Now the groups, tomorrow the groups have subgroups, after tomorrow the subgroups have departments, subdivisions, etc. E Europe and who and when will put your junta in Kiev to the nail?
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    2. Kostyar
      Kostyar April 14 2015 09: 12
      0
      They are engaged in boltology, and nifiga is still not clear ....
      Maybe the militia, have long since taken Kiev ...?!
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 April 14 2015 09: 21
        0
        I think that in the near future we can see concrete results, ”RIA Novosti quoted Lavrov as saying.

        Namely: what will the Americans respond to these negotiations with?
      2. Vend
        Vend April 14 2015 09: 24
        +1
        Let's wait, it will soon become clear why this is all done. I can only assume that to ultimately discredit the United States and remove this thief country from the list of superpowers that influence politics and create chaos for our own benefit. There is a big political game, a lot of running. As a result, I hope Ukraine, and some other countries will disappear from the face of the earth, as incapable of existence.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin April 14 2015 09: 48
          0
          Quote: Wend
          I can only assume that to ultimately discredit the United States and remove this thief country from the list of superpowers that influence politics and create chaos for our own benefit.

          To discredit to whom? And where is the list of powers from which someone can be deleted?
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought April 14 2015 09: 26
      +3
      Ukraine wanted to spit on all these agreements, the APU is constantly violating the ceasefire and will soon unleash full-fledged military operations as soon as an order is received from Washington.
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    5. vodolaz
      vodolaz April 14 2015 11: 36
      0
      Yeah, these agreements would still be implemented. Anyway: where are the representatives of New Russia?
  2. Teberii
    Teberii April 14 2015 08: 51
    +10
    We continue to push the water in the stupa. There are no concrete solutions.
    1. asadov
      asadov April 14 2015 09: 00
      +4
      The main decision of this meeting, I believe, is the refusal to enter the peacekeeping contingent.
    2. holod19
      holod19 April 14 2015 09: 02
      +4
      There are no solutions and never will be! because Kiev doesn’t give a damn about all fours of the six of the eight
  3. Lukich
    Lukich April 14 2015 08: 52
    +10
    [quote] [/ I think that in the near future we can see concrete results, ”RIA Novosti quoted Lavrov as saying.
    quote]
    yes there will be no results. the junta will go to war again
    1. Imperialkolorad
      Imperialkolorad April 14 2015 09: 05
      +1
      Sanctions against Ukraine to introduce and in the future the Nuremberg tribunal to fascist criminals. It is a pity in the foreseeable future only desires and dreams, because the United States does not surrender its bastard children so easily, and the evil done to Russia becomes an indulgence in general for any bloodiest crimes.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek April 14 2015 10: 59
      +2
      Quote: Lukich
      yes there will be no results. the junta will go to war again


      Option number 1 is the main one. But first - a bunch of provocations, otherwise DILLs are not "dill". bully
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 14 2015 08: 52
    +6
    appeal to the Contact Group with an appeal to immediately create working groups in Ukraine.


    In working groups create subgroups and so on ad infinitum. But Kiev did not comply with the agreements, and does not comply. From time to time they hang noodles over the phone on the ears of Merkel and Olanda.
  5. Kovlad
    Kovlad April 14 2015 09: 01
    +4
    Yes, this farce is already sick! Why put the agony of ruins? Buried, cried, remembered. Why do people have to pull out veins?
  6. fomkin
    fomkin April 14 2015 09: 04
    +1
    This is called a wrinkled forehead in concern.
  7. Egoza
    Egoza April 14 2015 09: 05
    +3
    I liked more that the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the FRG appealed to Russia and Ukraine to support the OSCE mission financially. They do not have enough money "for life" Has Germany already become so poor? Together with the whole EU? And someone who, and Ukraine will "support". In addition, there were talks about peacekeepers, "but did not receive development." Well, yes, Petya dreams that they will bring in peacekeepers, but without Russian troops. This is an indisputable condition. Found fools!
  8. anakonda
    anakonda April 14 2015 09: 10
    +1
    You can introduce peacekeeping troops / ethnic composition and nationality to determine by negotiation / and harshly suppress any provocations, and so the war can last indefinitely, as we have with Azerbaijanis.
  9. Abbra
    Abbra April 14 2015 09: 13
    +1
    I dream of a new film "Meeting on the Dniester" (continuation of the film "Meeting on the Elbe")
  10. holod19
    holod19 April 14 2015 09: 16
    +3
    And also to the results of the negotiations, a summary from the DPR: "The key news of Monday evening are as follows. 1) Shooting is going on along the entire line of contact between the LPR and the punitive troops. 2) The forces of the junta drove the defenders of the DPR from the outskirts of the village of Peski (which was previously controlled mainly by punishers) and are trying to do the same in the Spartak area, in both cases, the risk of a breakthrough into the suburbs of Donetsk.

    21:25. Denis Pushilin, vice-speaker of the People’s Council of the DPR, said that military action from Kiev was aimed at discrediting the OSCE mission in the Donbass.

    “In our opinion, all military actions undertaken by Kiev are aimed at discrediting the OSCE mission to ensure effective monitoring and verification of the ceasefire. And this is done with the aim of once again raising the question of introducing UN peacekeepers into the conflict zone. Any decision of Kiev on the powers of the OSCE or the introduction of peacekeepers will be a violation of both the spirit and the letter of the Set of Measures for the Implementation of the Minsk Agreements, ”the Donetsk News Agency quoted Pushilina as saying.

    21:33. A group of hackers CyberBerkut announced the names of foreign military instructors who, according to activists' website, will prepare provocations. The group notes that among military instructors there are citizens of Poland, Estonia, Finland, Turkey, Norway, Latvia, France, Denmark, Austria, Iceland, Germany and other countries. The largest number of specialists are sent to Ukraine from the USA. There are no independent confirmations of the information.

    ... It is still impossible to say whether there is a "solution of operational-tactical tasks" or the same spring attack of the junta has begun, about the inevitability of which the specialists wrote for so long. There is too little information as of 22:15 p.m. Moscow time, and therefore we cannot yet confirm the data on the “big losses” of the defenders of Donetsk.

    22:30 p.m. So far, unconfirmed information has been received about the return of the LPR and DNR artillery to positions held before the withdrawal under the Minsk agreements.

    22:45. Neighborhood of the city of Horlivka is also subjected to shelling.

    23:00. In Berlin, negotiations are underway between the foreign ministers of Russia, Germany, France and Ukraine. Discusses "the situation in the Donbass and the implementation of the Minsk agreements." All that is known from there so far is a tweet from the Kiev ambassador that “the situation in the negotiations of the Norman Four is tense.”

    23:10. The shelling of Donetsk by punitive artillery, which had been quiet for two hours, has resumed and has not ceased, the Donetsk News Agency reports. The Ministry of Defense of the DPR notes that it has not yet returned fire at the positions of the Armed Forces.

    23:50. The Donetsk news agency, citing the Ministry of Defense of the DPR, reports of intensive shelling of the positions of the army of Novorossia from the village of Experienced (near Donetsk) from all types of weapons, including heavy artillery.

    The Ministry of Defense does not confirm the information that the DPR forces were driven out of the village of Peski. "
    And what the hell are the negotiations after that? Our leaders only interfere with the militia to finish off the ukrop reptile! As soon as the militia rushes, as soon as the "boiler", then immediately MINSK, six (OH, FOUR),
    It's disgusting to hear about it !!!!
  11. Kovlad
    Kovlad April 14 2015 09: 22
    +1
    Most of all, I am amazed, well, somewhere, in something, I can still understand a prostitute, the girl was not fed sweets in childhood, or she wanted a "high life" in her understanding ... I just can't understand: Klimkin, Pavel Anatolevich
    [edit | edit wiki text] Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    There are articles on Wikipedia about other people with that last name, see Klimkin.
    Pavel Anatolyevich Klimkin
    Ukrainian. Pavlo Anatoliyovich Klimkin
    Antrittsbesuch ukrainischer Botschafter Pavlo Klimkin im Rathaus von Köln-7273 (cropped) .jpg
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    Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
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    since June 19, 2014
    Head of Government: Arseniy Petrovich Yatsenyuk
    President: Petr Alekseevich Poroshenko
    Predecessor: Andrey Bogdanovich Deshchitsa

    Birth: December 25, 1967 (47 years old)
    Kursk, RSFSR, USSR
    Education: Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology
    Pavel Anatolyevich Klimkin on the Wikimedia Commons
    Pavel Anatolyevich Klimkin (Ukrainian. Pavlo Anatoliyovich Klimkin; born December 25, 1967, Kursk) - Ukrainian diplomat and statesman, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine since June 19, 2014. Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary Ambassador (22.12.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX).

    Contents [remove]
    1 Biography
    2 Personal life
    3 Notes
    4 References
    Biography [edit | edit wiki text]
    Born December 25, 1967 in Russia in Kursk.

    In 1991 he graduated from the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology, faculty of aerophysics and space research with a degree in applied mathematics and physics.

    THIS!!!? WHO?!!!
  12. Fox
    Fox April 14 2015 09: 54
    +2
    What the hell are working groups? How much can you masturbate?

    Only a complete idiot may not be clear that in a civil war in Ukraine no version of a peace agreement or an end to the war is possible.

    Only one option is possible - the complete defeat of the so-called dill army, the capture of Kiev and the complete physical extermination of all ukrofashists who resist.

    There can be no peace agreements or cease-fires. The fascist junta that seized power through a coup must be completely destroyed.

    What the Kremlin "doves of peace" are hoping for is absolutely not clear. With bendero-fascist ghouls and ghouls, peace is not possible a priori.

    It’s bitter and embarrassing to observe this mouse fuss with truces. Who benefits from this? After all, anyway, sooner or later, will have to destroy the Kiev fascist evil.

    Why prolong this burdensome agony? After all, every day of the war brings new sacrifices, Russian people die. In the name of what? To then drive the Novorossiysk republics into fascist reservations anyway?

    Read what ordinary militia soldiers write about peace talks. Someone asked them what they want?

    People want a free and dignified life, which is impossible in principle under the existing power of the fascist junta.

    Only a war until a complete victory over the ukrofashists will give people both freedom and the opportunity to build their future lives not by someone’s order, but of their own free will.
  13. Karabin
    Karabin April 14 2015 09: 57
    +1
    As a result, the foreign ministers agreed that the Minsk agreements should be implemented in full, "not only in their military units, but also in the political, economic, humanitarian."

    Let me remind the distinguished public that the Minsk agreements do not provide for any DNR-LNR, and even more so for Novorossia.
    I dare to suggest that the failure of the agreements will definitely hang on the militia.
    Conclusion: Russians in the Donbass are being killed and will be killed.
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Kremlin will announce these things as an internal affair of Ukraine. At the same time, Russia will remain under sanctions.
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU April 14 2015 10: 58
      +1
      I support, there are no republics, but there is the shameful ORDILO of Ukraine. But the opinion of the inhabitants of Donbass does not bother anyone. Partner Petya and partner Vova will decide for themselves.
  14. Nikaviz
    Nikaviz April 14 2015 10: 02
    0
    There is no point in discussing without a mat ... fool angry The only way !!!!!! am
  15. koksalek
    koksalek April 14 2015 10: 06
    0
    Create a group to create groups of creators of groups for doing nothing!
  16. Alexander I
    Alexander I April 14 2015 10: 27
    0
    There are more troubles from this four of troubles than good from their gathering and constant spending of money. Let them gather for their personal. Solved issues without DLNR. It’s like doing what not to do.
  17. t118an
    t118an April 14 2015 11: 59
    0
    Yes, everything is falling apart "four" ... outdated itself if not completely outlived ..., "four" is in talks conducting .. immediately they say there are battles, shelling, wounded and killed ... this four ... "Trojan horse" after the "Debaltsevskiy cauldron" for a respite and rotation of the APU troops ... and ... we are the world, the world and people breathed a sigh in Donetsk and Lugansk after intense shelling ... and now the "four" have outlived their usefulness. The Armed Forces of Ukraine regrouped, instructors arrived. ..Because "Minsk-3" .. after some "boiler" ..
  18. wladimir
    wladimir April 14 2015 12: 10
    0
    you need your groups, you just need to chat, and the war has begun again.
  19. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat April 14 2015 12: 52
    0
    No, explain the sense from them? Forgive me for a year now, they'll be masturbating, but what's the point? Some kind of kindergarten, pants with shoulder straps, "Here Petya and Vasya had a fight. Now they will shake hands and the conflict is over ..." Well, this does not happen.