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Expert: The West needs to reconsider its attitude to Ukraine after statements about the "dirty" bomb

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Sergei Grinyaev, head of the Center for Strategic Estimates and Forecasts, said that after the statement by the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov, which does not exclude the creation of a so-called dirty bomb, Western countries need to reconsider their attitude to the current Kiev authorities.

Expert: The West needs to reconsider its attitude to Ukraine after statements about the "dirty" bomb


Dirty Bomb - Hypothetical weapon with conventional explosives, stuffed with radioactive substances. Such ammunition, the use of which is equivalent to nuclear terrorism, has not yet been used in real conditions.

Earlier, Turchinov answered a journalist’s question about the possibility of creating a “dirty” bomb in Ukraine, saying that Kiev plans to use all available resources, including for the production of weapons.

"What it is there - dirty or clean - this is a separate technological issue," - cites the words of the Secretary of the NSDC RIA "News".

“Such statements, especially on behalf of a politician invested with power, make you think very strongly. There is a possibility of creating a “dirty” nuclear bomb in Ukraine, since this country has a fairly well-developed nuclear energy, a country that has nuclear repositories on its territory, ”noted Grinyaev.

The expert stressed that the "dirty" bomb can become a kind of deterrent weapon.

“Western partners of Kiev need to reconsider their relationship with the current Kiev authorities and think carefully whether Washington or Brussels is ready to take responsibility, including for acts of nuclear terrorism, for which, according to Turchinov, Kiev is ready for today,” Grinyaev concluded .
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  1. Byshido_dis
    Byshido_dis April 10 2015 09: 39
    +17
    What are all naive))) While Ukraine will dance to the tune, all this will continue ...
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    2. Aleksander
      Aleksander April 10 2015 09: 40
      +19
      Expert: The West needs to reconsider its attitude to Ukraine after statements about the "dirty" bomb

      They will also help ....
      1. Момент
        Момент April 10 2015 09: 44
        +11
        This is already a concrete blackmail of Europe. Until Europe understands that those who have been brought to power will blackmail them, if only it would not be too late.
        1. Telakh
          Telakh April 10 2015 09: 47
          +4
          We pretend to play by their rules. They pretend to accept our game and play along in response.
          And what kind of fuss is happening behind the screen - it will become clear only after a couple of generations on scanty declassified documents.
          Well, since a significant part of the population needs information that is "chewed and ready for assimilation," and not input for analysis, there are such talking heads.
          1. Friday
            Friday April 10 2015 09: 57
            +34
            We are all joking and joking, but in fact we have a psychiatric hospital nearby and have neither fences nor gates.
            1. 41 REGION
              41 REGION April 10 2015 10: 25
              0
              Quote: Friday
              We are all joking and joking, but in fact we have a psychiatric hospital nearby and have neither fences nor gates.

              They want to build a fence lol so let their europe heal.
              1. Telakh
                Telakh April 10 2015 11: 03
                +2
                Europe itself is already with enviable schizophasia.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 10 2015 10: 52
              +3
              In this hospital, killers of psychopaths are kept without a fence and guard, which is much more dangerous than ordinary lunatics.
            3. noWAR
              noWAR April 10 2015 11: 12
              +9
              Quote: Friday
              We are all joking and joking, but in fact we have a psychiatric hospital nearby and have neither fences nor gates.

              Quote: victorsh
              So Papa Turchin is a former Bendera. Including hatred of Russia in his blood.

              It's all scary ...
            4. oleq197429
              oleq197429 April 10 2015 12: 15
              +1
              gave gas, electricity, brought a truce ,,,
              The answer is to rename the city - the stars on the shoulder straps ,,, found themselves.
              Putin will probably replay
            5. Lelek
              Lelek April 10 2015 12: 27
              +3
              Quote: Friday
              near us we have a mental hospital and it has neither fences nor gates


              ... and all the "psychos" with grenades in their hands, and their orderlies are priests-defrocked without conscience, honor and human appearance. Eg, a product of Western democracy.
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 April 10 2015 10: 39
          +3
          Quote: Moment
          This is already a concrete blackmail of Europe.


          First of all, it’s a direct blackmail of Russia ...

          THEM, such as a pastor, rotten and gutting, there is ALWAYS nothing to lose ... The state is falling apart with terrible acceleration ... And in the end they can do anything ...

          And if you associate with the threats of terrorist acts on the territory of ALL of Russia, the statement does not sound frail ...

          PS It’s time to shoot the frenzied ... Although it is cynical, but, it seems, the only right way ...
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 April 10 2015 11: 17
            +5
            First of all, it’s a direct blackmail of Russia ...

            In this case, maybe it is time to declare Ukraine a terrorist state? There are all objective prerequisites for this !!!
        3. yushch
          yushch April 10 2015 11: 47
          +2
          Experts have repeatedly said that the states have so far failed to drag Russia into an open confrontation with Ukraine by junta provocations. They also spoke of a serious provocation that could drag Russia into the war.
          A dirty bomb explosion is likely to provoke Russia in retaliation.
      2. BARKAS
        BARKAS April 10 2015 09: 44
        +4
        Quote: Aleksander
        They will also help ...

        And I even know who will be blamed for this!
  2. 2sila
    2sila April 10 2015 09: 39
    +5
    The client for the MTR has matured.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought April 10 2015 09: 41
      +2
      For the West, Ukraine is in its current state as their son of a bitch.
      1. ArchiAntiPendos
        ArchiAntiPendos April 10 2015 09: 51
        +1
        It is for them, that before, after that - NOTHING, if before, they were protected by the interests of Russia and somehow they had to be noticed, but what was there to be considered, because this umbrella subsequently became the subject of bargaining for Vitka with the coveted geyropa, now , the country does not use dill only lazy geyropeets or geygemon-democrat or geygemon-republican.
    2. Smoked
      Smoked April 10 2015 09: 42
      +2
      +1 Point-U on the tonsils.
      1. science fiction writer
        science fiction writer April 10 2015 09: 48
        +2
        To treat such, Bullet is a good pill. laughing am
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  3. persei
    persei April 10 2015 09: 41
    +3
    ... and how such normal women gave birth ... ????
    1. victorsh
      victorsh April 10 2015 10: 39
      0
      So Papa Turchin is a former Bendera. Including hatred of Russia in his blood.
  4. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov April 10 2015 09: 41
    +7
    In my opinion, for such statements of politicians it is necessary to judge, and then hang, although you can preventively bullet in the forehead
    1. Penelope
      Penelope April 10 2015 09: 44
      +3
      No one wants to have a monkey with an atomic grenade on the European continent.
      1. 97110
        97110 April 10 2015 09: 50
        +7
        Quote: Penelope
        No one wants to have a monkey with an atomic grenade on the European continent.

        If they are firmly convinced that the grenade is for Russia, they will want, with a few exceptions, ALL Europeans. Remember Hitler in 1936 - who was against it?
      2. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m April 10 2015 10: 15
        +1
        Already have. And no one asked if they wanted to or not. The black uncle commanded.
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    3. Dimka
      Dimka April 10 2015 09: 48
      +1
      They need to be tested! We are not barbarians. And we always have time to hang up.)
  5. Abbra
    Abbra April 10 2015 09: 42
    +9
    Here, even the most stupid Yankees should get to whom they contacted. A major special operation is urgently needed to take Turchinov to Kashchenko’s hospital.
    1. Balamyt
      Balamyt April 10 2015 09: 49
      +3
      What is the export there ??? It’s time to open a branch there! Among the clients are the whole Parliament and the government. And these are only those who first need to be treated! wassat
    2. 97110
      97110 April 10 2015 09: 54
      +2
      Quote: Abbra
      Here, even the most stupid Yankees should get to whom they contacted.

      Are you hoping it's a secret even for the dumbest Yankees? When were they stopped by any moral considerations? Read Marx about "there is no such crime ...". And Russian folk tales, or something. On the topic "greed will destroy the frayer."
    3. mihasik
      mihasik April 10 2015 10: 20
      +3
      Quote: Abbra
      Here, even the most stupid Yankees should get to whom they contacted

      They just very well understand who they contacted.
      Al Qaeda, ISIS is a striking but not legitimate example of a US product. And the ghouls from the Ukrainian junta, the very thing is recognized by EVERYONE as legitimate authority! That is, it is not terrorism, but the "defense of the" independent "state," by all available means.
      Played out a pancake in a handshake.
  6. Afinogen
    Afinogen April 10 2015 09: 46
    +3
    Turchinov himself must be fed with radioactive waste. It seems that cockroaches live in his head, but you have to think of such a thing.
  7. mig31
    mig31 April 10 2015 09: 47
    +5
    Israel would have already bombed having heard this ....
    1. Smoked
      Smoked April 10 2015 09: 51
      +4
      No, from the beginning they would have shown a picture in the style of the State Department

      and then to bomb.
  8. Karasik
    Karasik April 10 2015 09: 48
    +4
    Not only the West, but also Russia should reconsider its attitude to the current Kiev authorities! These maniacs MAY use such weapons! And it will be applied in close proximity to the Russian borders. How radiation spreads - everyone knows.
  9. kelevra
    kelevra April 10 2015 09: 49
    -1
    Westerners, if they are at least a little people, probably already thought about it! If this is not their initiative! But the priest about the production of an atomic bomb with dill, it is impossible. Technically, all the power, plutonium, reactors and fuel for them, was delivered from Russia! Dill has nothing no, to create a bomb! Say the Americans will help, they will not help. Their fuel is not suitable for Soviet-type reactors. They tried already in 2008 to load their fuel into dill reactors, almost the second Chernobyl did not happen, they do not like to talk about it, but this a fact! And to build new reactors for American fuel, excuse me, this is ten years and several hundred billion dollars, no one will do this! To create a dirty bomb, another thing is to "contaminate" an ordinary projectile with nuclear waste. It's not a big job, but Westerners will not agree to this, they do not control the way they want. All power is in dill!
    1. Naum
      Naum April 10 2015 10: 57
      +3
      All the "music" is ordered by mattress covers. They do not care about Europe, even if a hundred "dirty" nuclear bombs will explode there. They feel safe behind the Big Puddle and in every possible way want to unleash the Third World War in Europe. As in the previous two, they rely on someone else's misfortune to warm their paws well ...
      Do everything for this.
      Definitely: The USA, this is the center of World Evil, must be destroyed!

      WAKE UP YELOUSTON !!!
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  11. Decathlon
    Decathlon April 10 2015 09: 50
    +1
    Are there any preventive measures for "nuclear terrorists" ?! Well, so that later on at the meetings of the European Union parliament in gas masks and OZK not to appear. Think, think, "bright" European minds, we have warned you!
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  13. Khagysh
    Khagysh April 10 2015 09: 51
    0
    Where are they going to throw their dirty bombs? Suicides!
  14. not Russian
    not Russian April 10 2015 09: 52
    +1
    It’s clear from my eyes that I didn’t come up with it myself.
  15. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 April 10 2015 09: 53
    +3
    Only having something serious at hand with the Americans can they butt and condition them. Missiles in Cuba, bombers in Venezuela, and periodically pop-up nuclear submarines in the Gulf of Hudson. And so the hedgehog is clear that the pastor would not have made such a statement without the approval of the black dad.
  16. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 10 2015 09: 54
    +1
    Yes, Europe does not care if the bomb is fired far from its borders. Europe can help with this. That certainly would not have reached her. And the Russians will be to blame. Remember how America hid the Natsik after the Second World War? Here it will be the same.
  17. Watchdog
    Watchdog April 10 2015 09: 54
    +6
    Vomiting face! The question is why we are silent about the aggravation of the situation in Donbas. "Do not they dare, perhaps, the commanders of strangers to tear off their uniforms against the Russian bayonets"? Honestly, this year everyone is already seriously tired of all this talking shop in the mainstream of the hohlodurdom. No, I'm not one of those who "fancies himself a strategist seeing the battle from the outside." Put Putin in - bring Putin out - not mine. Many smart people NTsUO + supercomputer - I trust them. But, to be honest, this burden is already tired.
  18. mamont5
    mamont5 April 10 2015 10: 00
    +1
    Quote: Aleksander
    Expert: The West needs to reconsider its attitude to Ukraine after statements about the "dirty" bomb

    They will also help ....


    In what? Making a bomb? Doubt? With such a "government" no one can guarantee in which direction such a "present" will fly. And Europe, for all its blinkeredness, understands this. Even the United States understands this.
  19. fomkin
    fomkin April 10 2015 10: 01
    +4
    This kind m ..., you need something like this:
  20. morpogr
    morpogr April 10 2015 10: 03
    +1
    So that it works then when the Turchins will be present next to the check and after this dirty bomb the world will become a little cleaner from such freaks.
  21. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 10 2015 10: 07
    0
    Here are the stupid Yankees then they are being wound up. Otherwise, this scum mittens would not be barked, but would be silent in a rag.
  22. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 10 2015 10: 09
    0
    “Kiev’s western partners need to reconsider their relationship with the current Kiev authorities and think carefully about whether Washington or Brussels are ready to take responsibility, including for acts of nuclear terrorism, for which, according to Turchinov, Kiev is ready today”


    Well, let's say the West does not even allow the thought of revising its relations with Kiev, whatever it says. The main task is to punish Russia as sensitive as possible.
  23. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot April 10 2015 10: 12
    +2
    Don’t forget!
  24. press officer
    press officer April 10 2015 10: 14
    +5
    Quote: Friday
    We are all joking and joking, but in fact we have a psychiatric hospital nearby and have neither fences nor gates.
  25. CONTROL
    CONTROL April 10 2015 10: 16
    +3
    ...And what?
    Quite in the style of h.h.h.l.o.v - "bite ...", spit in soup, shit on Red Square ...
    only without humor, but very, very seriously!
    Dirty bomb aimed only against the civilian population; weapons of illegitimate "power"; usurpers, "caring for the people", the weapon of the powerless - but evil ...
  26. pravednik
    pravednik April 10 2015 10: 18
    0
    One can only say. WAIT.
  27. robsafin
    robsafin April 10 2015 10: 23
    0
    how much can you endure the antics and statements of these? maybe it's time to act ...
  28. Slon1978
    Slon1978 April 10 2015 10: 24
    +3
    A dirty bomb is certainly unpleasant, but not fatal. The Ministry of Emergency Situations will be forced to wash out buildings, deactivate, collect waste water, restrict movement around the block, etc. Plus there are psychological risks for the area of ​​the explosion, few people want to live there, the price of buildings will drop even if the background is restored to normal. This is all difficult and costly, but not irreparable. But in the case of establishing a Ukrainian trace, I think an entirely adequate response would be to launch missile strikes on workers' residences and private mansions, dachas, etc. the entire Ukrop elite - including Pastor Turchinov, and write down all the dead relatives as incidental damage. Maybe it would not hurt to warn about such a scenario, to organize some kind of "leak".
    1. alex86
      alex86 April 10 2015 19: 41
      0
      Quote: Slon1978
      The Ministry of Emergencies will be forced to do the washing out of buildings, deactivate, collect waste water, restrict movement in the quarter, etc.

      I think (and according to some of my practice) you significantly underestimate - it will not be a few blocks, but tens of square kilometers per unit. And the decontamination process will be similar to the Chernobyl one. There are not very complicated ways to implement a "dirty" bomb: each NPP has a liquid and solid waste storage facility and an ISF (nuclear fuel waste storage facility). Everything that is stored there is not very difficult to place in a warhead, for example, "Tornado" or "Hurricane", or "Tochki" and send us across the border. With liquid ones it is even easier: To drain into the Seversky Donets - and very large areas will become practically unsuitable for life. And you can't do with Decontamination ...
  29. Yasondinalt
    Yasondinalt April 10 2015 10: 25
    0
    Maybe they have a dirty bomb already detonated there? And due to radiation they carry what horrible?
    1. jjj
      jjj April 10 2015 10: 59
      0
      Chernobyl legacy
  30. vkl-47
    vkl-47 April 10 2015 10: 28
    0
    What a disgusting face ...
  31. givigor71
    givigor71 April 10 2015 10: 38
    0
    Quote: Friday
    We are all joking and joking, but in fact we have a psychiatric hospital nearby and have neither fences nor gates.

    and the doctors from this hospital called "dill" all fled, so there is no one to treat a huge number of patients ... laughing
  32. Share
    Share April 10 2015 10: 50
    +1
    That there is a "dirty" bomb .. Even if the new government had an atomic bomb and they would use it, no one in Europe would notice it.
  33. Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 10 2015 10: 58
    0
    And the uranium deposits can make a dirty bomb in Ukroreich there, too, a critical mass is needed for the fission reaction, it is 1 kg of uranium and 25 kilograms was spent - the product is like a bomb dropped on Hiroshima.
  34. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky April 10 2015 10: 58
    +1
    A dirty pastor, with a dirty bomb in dirty pants - the new elite of Ukraine!
  35. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss April 10 2015 11: 14
    0
    For more than a year now I can’t understand in Ukraine that all social issues have been resolved? resolved issues of an economic nature? are these morons from the junta nothing more to do?
  36. toad
    toad April 10 2015 11: 14
    +1
    This statement is yet another attempt to force Russia to intervene. He himself didn’t come up with this, they prompted him, but only tell me that, and then they themselves.
  37. NordUral
    NordUral April 10 2015 11: 20
    0
    Pr idurki maydanutye.
  38. Evgen2x
    Evgen2x April 10 2015 11: 26
    +2
    All hohland is a dirty big bomb !!
  39. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 10 2015 11: 30
    0
    Are they completely crazy there?
  40. evm-2005
    evm-2005 April 10 2015 11: 42
    0
    Well, that's a threat. The real one.
    I believe that the response is provided for by action plans both in the country and outside.
    We will simulate:
    1. -This link in verbal rhetoric, having nothing to do with real.
    - There is no certainty about this, given the degree of idiocy in Kiev.
    2. - implement a threat on the territory of the LPR and the DPR with the next failure on the Debaltsevsky and Mariupol directions, or on the way to Kiev.
    - Will we limit ourselves to the next statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and cries of inadequacy? Hardly...
    3.- realize the threat on the territory of the Russian Federation at the next failure on the Debaltsevsky and Mariupol directions, or on the way to Kiev.
    - We are responding on an "adequate" scale.
    The resulting fit into the enemy scenario of the development of the situation with a given result.
    We will not be able to respond. We will be forced to move in the indicated direction.
    Something I do not see alternatives other than preventive actions by aviation at nuclear facilities and waste storage sites, as well as places to ensure the fulfillment of the threat (depending on the chosen method of charge delivery), despite the claimed air defense system strengthening by them. What this means, I think, is clear.
    So emotions are good, but you need to prepare for specific events.
    I hope that I am not the only one pessemist (not to be confused with a pessemist).
  41. atamankko
    atamankko April 10 2015 11: 45
    0
    The West will receive Ukrainian gifts.
  42. Samarin
    Samarin April 10 2015 12: 07
    0
    Quote: Penelope
    No one wants to have a monkey with an atomic grenade on the European continent.

    The monkey already has a grenade, only the ring has not yet pulled ...
  43. Logist
    Logist April 10 2015 13: 43
    0
    Considering the ability of Ukrainians to conduct grayness, I won’t be surprised if any factory (producing this bomb) takes off into the air, making a bunch of square meters unfit for life. km Hohland ... These things are not joking ...
  44. meriem1
    meriem1 April 10 2015 13: 46
    +1
    A "dirty" bomb is a hypothetical weapon with conventional explosives stuffed with radioactive substances. Such ammunition, the use of which is equivalent to nuclear terrorism, has not yet been used in real conditions.



    How was it not used ??? And in Yugoslavia ???
  45. Pomah
    Pomah April 10 2015 15: 32
    +1
    I understand everything, I accept everything ... beautiful right words, etc. but ... Where are the specific cases, how long will our feet wipe about us?
  46. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 April 13 2015 06: 46
    0
    The West has already forgotten how dangerous it is to flirt with the Nazis.
    It is unlikely that the French and Englishmen in the 1938 year in Munich, giving Hitler freedom of action, understood that Hitler would hit them first and not the USSR.
    The Nazis have their own logic, a dirty bomb with the same probability can hang over Berlin, Paris and London. Blackmail is the usual Nazi method for extracting money.