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Pima air museum and American airpower museum: a pair of Lockheed Sr-71A and another Lockheed GTD-21B

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Lockheed SR-71 is a strategic supersonic reconnaissance aircraft of the USA. Unofficially, it was called “Blackbird” (Blackbird Russian). I already managed to look at it in Dayton, but it was in a dim room and was not allowed close to it. Now let's take a closer look.
I immediately warn you about the order of 130 photos and it’s more like a walk around.




Since I have already talked about it, then there will be information about a specific aircraft and a description of pictures. The first plane was also in the room. This is Pima Air Museum ....



Immediately begin with zaklepochek, maybe here it was completely impossible to consider it completely. Our board with serial number 61-7951 is the second Sr-71 built and the oldest surviving board.



Main rack niche



Separately exhibited a Pratt & Whitney J58-P4 turbo-jet engine



Our aircraft rolled out after the assembly of 20 on October 1964 of the year and made its first flight of 5 in March of 1965 of the year.



It was used to test all systems and flew mainly from Palmdale California.



In 1971, the aircraft was handed over to NASA to replace the YF-12, which was lost in the crash.



In order to hide the use of this aircraft by NASA, it received the designation YF-12C and the serial number 60-6937.



The comic situation was that this serial number belonged to one of the most secret aircraft of the CIA, A-12.



In October, 1978, the aircraft was returned to the Air Force and returned to its original number.



And just two months later, the plane was deposited at Palmdale.



And after all the Sr-71 were written off from the Air Force, it became possible to put it in the museum under the number 61-7951.



inscriptions



Attempt to see it entirely



Cabin



Lockheed GTD-21B is right there. The creation of an unmanned reconnaissance aircraft was a response of the CIA to the defeat of a U-2 rocket over Sverdlovsk and the subsequent promise of US President Eisenhower not to conduct more manned reconnaissance flights over the territory of the USSR. Lockheed's proposal to use the Starfish unmanned version - QF-104 with A-12 has not received support.



Work on the creation of a new reconnaissance UAV - Tagboard program - started on the instructions of the CIA 10 in October 1962. Initially, it was called Q-12, but then received the name D-21 (from Daughter - daughter). Separate reconnaissance equipment section
“Daughter” was designed by the same team of “skunks”: by and large - the UAV is derived from A-12. "Disposable" unmanned aircraft made entirely of titanium.



He was able to reach speeds of more than M = 3,6 at an altitude of more than 30 km and a distance of more than 2000 kilometers. Due to the cleaner aerodynamic shapes and smaller geometrical dimensions, the D-21 had a reduced effective dispersion surface and higher aerodynamic quality compared to the progenitor.



It was intended for high-altitude reconnaissance flights in hostile airspace and dumping a container with a film at the end of the flight. D-21 rescue and reuse was not intended.



A detachable container with reconnaissance equipment weighing about 192 kg was installed at the bottom of the fuselage in front of the bend line of the wing. D-21 was painted with the same ferrite-based black paint as the SR-71. This was done to dissipate heat from the surface of the aircraft, as well as reduce the radar visibility of the aircraft.



Tests of experimental LA X-7A, equipped with a ramjet engine, confirmed the possibility of abandoning expensive J-58 TRDF in favor of ramjet company Marquardt (San Fernando Valley). It was based on the RJ43-MA-11 engine used on the Bomarc IM-99B SAMs. To use it on a high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft at low pressures and high temperatures, the cruising speed and altitude of the engine were significantly increased, and it was possible to restart it (using triethylborane). Duration of the engine XRJ-MA20S-4 increased to 1,5 h.



Already 7 December 1962 was made layout D-21 and transferred to the landfill to determine the EPR.
To launch D-21 on the basis of A-12, 2 of the carrier (06940 and 06941) were specially built, designated M-21 and nicknamed “Mother Goose”. D-21A was installed on a pylon above the tail section of the M-21. In flight before the start, the air intake and the nozzle of the D-21A engine were closed by a fairing. The reconnaissance detachment took place after the carrier aircraft was accelerated to a speed of M = 3,2, sufficient for normal work of the direct flow engine. Managed the flight of the drone over the radio second member of the crew.



The first flight of the M-21 was performed on 1 on April 1964. 22 December 1964 was the first flight from the D-21, and 5 March 1966 was the first launch of the D-21A, which flew 150 miles (278 km). During the fourth launch of D-21 (504) 30 in July 1966 in the area of ​​Midway, he was “caught” by the shock wave from M-21 06941 and hit the carrier. Lockheed test pilot Bill Park and the “launch management officer” Ray Torrick ejected, but during the ejection, his high-altitude compensating suit was damaged, and after splashing in the open ocean, he immediately drew water.
Due to the loss of both aircraft, the flights of the remaining M-21 were no longer made.



But C. Johnson was convinced of the high performance of the D-21 and soon released a modification of the D-21B with a rocket booster, launched with the B-52H. Our unit never flew. It was deposited in the 1976 year and was placed in the museum in the 1993 year.



And we again consider our Sr-71



There is also a suit of the pilot of this aircraft.



General view of the pilot in the ejection seat.



Immediately there is a layout of the nose of the aircraft with the skin replaced with fiberglass


It's the same



On the other hand



Nasal rack, look into the niche



Niche, part closer to the nose



The part is closer to the feed



Actually nasal rack



Lower part view towards the nose



Main rack niche



Main Rack Wheel



Cabin



Photo 43.



Right motor



Photo 45.



The J58 engine was developed by the Pratt & Whitney Aircraft Division of the United Aircraft Corporation in the early 50s for the United States Navy. It has been designed to operate at high speeds (M-number 3,0 and above) and at high altitudes (over 80000 feet). The J58 was the first engine capable of operating normally in afterburner mode for a long time and it was the first engine tested in flight at M 3 speed in the Air Force.



A feature of the J58 engine is that it is both a turbojet and a straight-through jet engine.



Since the engine operates in an environment of elevated temperatures, it uses low-volatile JP-7 kerosene, which requires a chemical injection system.



Photo 48.



Photo 53.



Engine nozzle



We look inside



Photo 49.



Main Stand



visible to what extent the wheels are erased



Photo 56.



Now go to the plane, which is set up on the street parking in the American airpower museum. 61-7959 SR-71A, next to Eglin AFB, FL ("Big-Tail" version, with additional sensors and cameras).



The aircraft was rolled out after assembly as Sr-71A 16 August 1965 of the year. But in fact it was used as a test board for testing sensors, for which he received an elongated 9 foot tail in the 1975 year.



Tests showed that with such an add-on the plane almost did not change its behavior, but the new sensors did not show a serious positive change, so this refinement did not go into series.



The program was closed and the plane made its last flight on October 29 1976 of the year.



Therefore, we turn to looking at the aircraft. Fortunately he is in the sun and you can see everything is fine.



view of the rack



Front view



Lantern



Photo 66.



Different elements are sharp, it did not work all at once



Engine nacelle J58



Here you can see all the rivets.



Photo 70.



Photo 71.



right engine



Photo 73.



general view on the right



the same tail extended to 9 feet



From this perspective, unfortunately the pillar



There is no fence between the road and the airplanes on the static. They can be viewed when the museum is closed.



Glasses are not covered in Pima.



Photo 79.



Photo 80.



back view



Engine air intake



Photo 83.



Photo 84.



Photo 86.



Then all sorts of perversions go on: remove from here to here and so on.



Photo 89.



LDPE is big, the plane is small



The plane is big, LDPE is small



Photo 92.



right view



Empennage



Photo 95.



Photo 96.



Photo 97.



Rear view



general rear view



Photo 100.



Photo 101.



Photo 103.



Photo 104.



general view from the left



Photo 106.



Bottom part



all sorts of inscriptions are useful and not very



Main stand cleaning niche



more inscriptions



the wheel of the main rack, the manufacturer is visible



powerful stand itself



Photo 113.



Photo 114.



under the plane



so stand looks in full face



attempt to look into the air intake



Photo 118.



Photo 119.



Photo 120.



Photo 121.



Photo 122.



Photo 123.



niche bow stand



Photo 125.



here, too, all sorts of inscriptions



and what tires are not white here? :-)))



That's the name of the pilot why here



inscriptions



under the cabin all sorts of inscriptions and incomprehensible ledge



In total, the 32 boards were released and at the moment they are all written off and the 30 side order can be seen in US museums and one in England.



Flight performance
Crew: 2 person
Length: 32,74 m
Wingspan: 16,94 m
Height: 5,64 m
Wing area: 141,1 m²
Empty weight: 27215 kg
Maximum takeoff weight: 77100 kg
Payload mass (equipment): kg 1600
Weight Fuel: 46180 kg
Engine type: Turbopramotny engine
Model: Pratt & Whitney J58-P4
Maximum thrust: 2 x 10630 kgf
Afterburner: 2 x 14460 kgf
Engine weight: 3200 kg
Maximum permissible speed: M = 3,2 (at a bow temperature <427 °, acceleration to M = 3,3 is allowed)
Supersonic cruising speed: M = 2,8
Range of flight: 5230 km
Range: 2000 km
Flight duration: 1,5 h
Practical ceiling: 25910 m (85000 ft)
Rate of climb: m / s 60
Takeoff / Run Length: 1830 m
Wing loading: 546 kg / m²
Thrust-to-weight ratio: 0,36
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  1. prosto_rgb
    prosto_rgb April 10 2015 07: 44
    +9
    Article is super!
    Particularly pleased with the number of high-quality photographs from a variety of angles.
    In terms of the safety of their achievement, the Americans are well done, that's what they should learn from them !!!
    What would later not work like this:
    (photo from the site buran ru)
    1. Simple
      Simple April 10 2015 13: 39
      +7
      On your photo is a model of "Burana" made of wood veneer in a scale of 1: 3 for blowing in a wind tunnel.

      In comparison, compare with the "Lockheed Sr-71" model for the same purpose. ...
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb April 12 2015 02: 00
        0
        I completely agree with your comment.
        Unfortunately, I don’t know whether it is customary to make such models in the "western" aircraft industry. I know that, at least in the civil aircraft industry of the USSR, wooden models of serial aircraft in full size were made. As they were modernized, the corresponding changes were made to them.
        Demonstration of this particular photograph, among other things, had as its purpose to acquaint readers with this particular model (which, unfortunately, is in a deplorable state), since in my opinion, this photo is very rare, compared to the number of photos about "Buran".
        Quote: Simple
        On your photo is a model of "Burana" made of wood veneer in a scale of 1: 3 for blowing in a wind tunnel.

        When I saw the photo, I didn’t even think about the scale, I was simply surprised by the very fact of the presence of this model. It seemed to me that the experienced mock-ups or models were then simply taken apart.
        Can you explain in more detail about the scale of exactly 1: 3, I'm just not at all on the topic of applying scales to aerodynamic models (there are some criteria for choosing one or another scale).
        PS
        What is the scale and what is the standard range of scales I know by hearsay.
  2. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich April 10 2015 07: 48
    +3
    Good photo review! Funny, this super car was created by the people of the United States more than forty years ago!
    And yet, they were able to launch a man on the moon!
    Now America can neither one nor the other ... Where did everything go? After all, there is no perestroika with Gorbachev
    they did not have Yeltsin. Where did it all go? America lives in the past as we live in heritage
    THE USSR! And if in Russia they are still trying to create something new and interesting, then for some reason in the states for what
    they don’t take it, everything turns out F35, or something like that ...
    1. Falcon
      Falcon April 10 2015 10: 38
      +4
      Sly respected!
      F-22 has long been in the air, F-35 is not as bad as it is painted, RQ-4 Global Hawk, RQ-170 Sentinel, V-22 Osprey, X-47 UAV. This is only aviation.
      Do not forget the aircraft carrier with the electromagnetic catapult Ford and the Zumwalt destroyer.

      Of course, you can argue for a long time that this is not a technique, but many simply have no analogues in the world, and no one even develops something similar. And all this is alive in the "metal" and works.

      You can throw hats at me for a long time and shout that all this is very expensive. But they can afford it. And they buy all this equipment. And the goods cost exactly as much as they are willing to pay for it. And for this technique there is someone to pay.
      1. servant.
        servant. April 10 2015 11: 15
        0

        F-35 ..........
      2. iwind
        iwind April 10 2015 11: 53
        +1
        Quote: Falcon
        Of course, you can argue for a long time that this is not a technique, but many simply have no analogues in the world, and no one even develops something similar. And all this is alive in the "metal" and works.

        Do not lie! F-35 shrink! He doesn't fly at all! and cost at least 300 million, with a helmet of 7000000 thousand Zimbabwean dollars. After all, it’s so easy to write, and to design and create by yourself how expensive and complicated it is better to leave the shit. And there you see the problem (F-35) will dissipate itself.

        Quote: serviceman.
        F-35 ..........

        A bit more informational clip about the status of the project.
        1. Falcon
          Falcon April 10 2015 16: 25
          +1
          Quote: iwind
          Do not lie! F-35 He doesn't fly at all!

          Generally the first flight in the 2006 year. The fact that they cannot bring it to condition is simply the complexity of technology.
          And according to your logic, does our T-50 fly? Well, some kind of test samples fly, but who really knows what's inside. Maybe he will differ from Su-35 only in design? Maybe it will bring to condition even more years 15 will be.
          How many T-50 do you plan to make 60pcs before 2020? And F-35 2000-3000pcs.
          In this situation, it is better to have 3000 "as if not flying" F-35 than 60 "as if flying" T-50
          1. iwind
            iwind April 10 2015 18: 21
            0
            Quote: Falcon
            Quote: iwind
            Do not lie! F-35 He doesn't fly at all!

            Generally the first flight in the 2006 year. The fact that they cannot bring it to condition is simply the complexity of technology.
            And according to your logic, does our T-50 fly? Well, some kind of test samples fly, but who really knows what's inside. Maybe he will differ from Su-35 only in design? Maybe it will bring to condition even more years 15 will be.
            How many T-50 do you plan to make 60pcs before 2020? And F-35 2000-3000pcs.
            In this situation, it is better to have 3000 "as if not flying" F-35 than 60 "as if flying" T-50

            That was sarcasm.
            Check out my previous comments on the F-35 (I'm the main advocate of the "devil" here ...;)
            Once again, I’ll repeat that now the main way to fight the F-35 is not to create your competitor, but to throw shit and think up the article about which F-35 is bad ...
      3. sssla
        sssla April 10 2015 18: 39
        0
        Quote: Falcon
        F-35 isn’t as bad as being painted,

        And why are they asking ALREADY about half a trillion to modernize this miracle ?????
        1. iwind
          iwind April 10 2015 19: 18
          0
          Quote: sssla
          Quote: Falcon
          F-35 isn’t as bad as being painted,

          And why are they asking ALREADY about half a trillion to modernize this miracle ?????

          and where do they ask? can you give confirmation of your words?
        2. servant.
          servant. April 10 2015 20: 00
          +1
          The refinement of the aircraft to mind lasts the entire period of its operation, which we have what amers have.
        3. Falcon
          Falcon April 11 2015 11: 32
          0
          Yes, at least ten trillion. If there is anyone to pay, then why not.
          Just keep in mind that technology is created with this money, not vodka
      4. jayich
        jayich April 10 2015 23: 32
        -2
        The thrush is a very beautiful car, something like a flying saucer.
        But this is perhaps all that they have wonderful in aircraft construction, in my opinion.
        They made fun of UAVs, such as Buran and UAVs, so UAVs, now almost any military aircraft can be converted into an unmanned aerial vehicle.
        Ford aircraft carrier, ha ha ha, the electromagnetic catapult is also an achievement for me, and not the fact that it works, and so is the barge and barge, and the trains on the magnetic cushion have been rolling for quite some time, nothing of the same original meaning.
        The B-22 mixture of hedgehog and rhino does not reach the plane in speed and carrying capacity, and compared to the MI-26 it nervously smokes on the side, in comparison with the MI-8-17 family it is inferior in reliability.
        The destroyer Zamvolt is also an achievement for me, RHYTHM-200 on LK-60 is an achievement. MRK "Buyan" is much more interesting than this zamvolt, 14000 tons versus 950 tons, 80 versus 8 cells for storing missile weapons, i.e. on the "Leader" of a similar displacement, it will be, according to the most conservative estimates, up to 120 UKSK cells. Even the modernized Admiral Nakhimov will be much more terrifying than this marginal tin can.
        Damn, the same "Losharik" technology, this zamvolt will shut up even though it is a research apparatus.
        For the money that they trickle into their useless military programs. Already it would be possible to make an orbital warship in 1000 tons. And it would have been a long time ago to create a traveling rocket engine, but at the output they have another iPhone.
        1. sssla
          sssla April 11 2015 07: 16
          0
          Quote: jayich
          Thrush is a very beautiful car

          If she is beautiful, then you are a beauty with a se of 15 cm
        2. Falcon
          Falcon April 11 2015 11: 46
          0
          Quote: jayich
          MRK "Buyan" is much more interesting than this zamvolta

          UUU thunderstorm of the seas! with a zrc needle, so generally satellites will probably be knocked down.

          Quote: jayich
          UAV, now almost any military aircraft can be converted into a drone

          Well, yes, but why? Probably that he took off and landed himself? The essence of the UAV is not in their flying qualities, but in the electronics on board. In intelligence and objective control. This is the main problem, technology and cost.

          Quote: jayich
          According to the most conservative estimates, the "leader" will be up to 120 cells of the UKSK.


          Leader is the answer to Arleigh Burke. I want to remind you that we do not have yet destroyers and cruisers of the fourth generation in general! Of course, most likely the Leader will be much better, but so far there is not even an approved project as far as I know ...
        3. Falcon
          Falcon April 11 2015 11: 53
          0
          Quote: jayich
          Even the upgraded Admiral Nakhimov will be much worse than this coastal tin


          Well, I believe that Admiral Nakhimov is a very beautiful ship, why is it immediately worse?

          In general, this is a modernization of the third-generation cruiser (not even the fourth), and of course it will be very good, it only glows on the radar so that it blinds the eyes.

          For you, like many here, it seems to me that the approach to imported equipment is not quite right. Competitor or enemy (or Western partner laughing ) must be respected! It is necessary to look at their technologies, steal their experience, and recognize their achievements in order to create an answer better worthy and stronger! And we all throw hats and shout that they have all the shit full, and we have everything so super, and nothing more needs to be done.
    2. sssla
      sssla April 10 2015 18: 36
      0
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      And yet, they were able to launch a man on the moon!

      Yeah, chasssss !!! To the moon, yes, but excuse me with it, you’re a fan of Mamerick
  3. Aleksiy
    Aleksiy April 10 2015 07: 48
    +6
    Thanks for the detailed photo review. As for me, such a beautiful and fast-moving airplane, there is something cosmic in it.
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    2. Col.
      Col. April 10 2015 11: 33
      +4
      Quote: Aleksiy
      beautiful and fast aircraft


      An interesting fact (few people know): when flying on V = 2.6-3М, the fuselage length of the SR-71 from heating increases by 7 cm!
  4. Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 April 10 2015 07: 49
    0
    Great photo selection.
    The following smiled: “In 1971, the aircraft was handed over to NASA to replace the YF-12, which was lost in the crash. In order to hide the fact that NASA was using this aircraft, it received the designation YF-12C and the serial number 60-6937. that this serial number belonged to one of the CIA's most secret aircraft, the A-12. " Either the Americans have no secrecy at all, or with humor, complete order. Back in the early 90s of the last century, I happened to read about the project of the A-12 hypersonic reconnaissance aircraft, in my opinion it was still called "Aurora", if I am not mistaken. But at the same time, nowhere was there any reliable information that the aircraft had been manufactured and tested.
    1. Engineer
      Engineer April 10 2015 10: 15
      0
      Aurora is a myth.
      1. Aleksandr72
        Aleksandr72 April 10 2015 16: 09
        0
        What am I talking about ?! Therefore, it was surprising to me that there was a serial number on the A-12, and even more so the assignment of this number to the aircraft, which is discussed in the article.
  5. servant.
    servant. April 10 2015 07: 57
    0
    And our legends on the landfill targets: https: //youtu.be/t0TDmwDAve8
  6. Vladimir.
    Vladimir. April 10 2015 08: 04
    +1
    Great review!
    It’s a decent airplane and it left its mark on history. Yes, Americans know how to keep their history.
    Look how clean everything is there! The plane is like new. You look at it and ask yourself: “Why don't we have this?” Such a museum would not hurt us. The history of aviation in the Russian Federation and the USA is rich.

    PS Those who say that the United States cannot do this now, I want to ask a logical question:
    "If at the moment when this aircraft was used, no one except the designers and pilots knew about it, then where did you get the idea that what is now flying in the sky will be declassified? ...
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov April 10 2015 13: 31
      +6
      you need to look at the latitude and longitude where this museum is located

      in Monino (Moscow region) we also have a cool museum. But everything rots there - for it is snow, then rain, then icy rain, then heat.

      they only have to level the bushes there. I laid the asphalt track and it is in good condition for 20 years.

      And I myself personally in the museum the plane skinned with guys all summer - in the fall, volunteers arrived painted it. And what's the point. After two winters - as they did nothing. And the time spent on 4 months of work by a team of 10 people. And this is just the plane (green on the left). And hundreds of them are copies much larger than what we did.

      And hangars ... with meter-long snowdrifts on the roof. The hangars are constantly damp. And how many craftsmen in the 90s titanium poked with other metals. They cut their wings, dismantled the landing gear - but then the situation in the country was an asshole.

      In general, do not compare. Too many but. And it’s very expensive to maintain such a museum. We will not be allowed to exist for 100 years without war. Someone constantly climbs, distracts from peaceful development, from domestic and vital affairs in the state. So the time with money is constantly not enough.

      In a mattress with this simpler




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    3. SeregaBoss
      SeregaBoss April 10 2015 13: 36
      0
      USA fan! And why did you get the idea that we do not have such museums? Please go to Monino (Moscow region) and enjoy the collection of unique equipment. And also everything is clean and sound. He attended school years since 1995-96. hi
      1. Col.
        Col. April 10 2015 13: 51
        0
        Quote: Serge Boss
        And also everything is clean and sound. He visited at school so 1995-96.

        I was born in Monino, I was in the museum in the middle of the 60's, believe me, then it was even better!
  7. montrey
    montrey April 10 2015 08: 21
    +2
    Thanks to the author for the work.

    And the plane is beautiful.
  8. Head
    Head April 10 2015 08: 40
    +2
    Scary plane. In 89-91, he served as an urgent in the anti-aircraft missile regiment in the Novgorod region as a TsR operator on the K-9 S-200, so often enough during combat duty we were raised on readiness to accompany these reptiles when they took off from the base in Norway. Immediately established mode 2 (I can forget, correct, who knows). He led RT and RL types of reconnaissance. They even were supposed to shoot 3 missiles (5N28V). And then they were removed from service and we calmly sighed. True, there was still a lot of any flying rubbish, such as the RS-135 or satellites.
  9. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 10 2015 09: 04
    +2
    Thanks for the selection of the photo ... it is very instructive and interesting. The US pilots also called the "BLACK DROZDA" "Iron", because when accelerating to such speeds and landing, the pilot had to sit in the cockpit for several hours until the hull of this pipelatsa cooled down. body, if my memory serves up to 400 degrees in my opinion. Therefore, this plane was "titanium". hi
    1. Engineer
      Engineer April 10 2015 10: 27
      +2
      This is a strong exaggeration: over 400 heated only the bow and wing edges when flying at speeds of M = 3,3. It goes without saying that they did not fly at such speeds all the time, cruising at it M = 2,8, there are no such heatings there, and having reduced the speed before landing, the hull will quickly cool down. Mig-25 at M = 3, heating the stainless steel casing does not lead to deformations at all, and the pilots then do not sit there for hours after landing.
  10. 2nd 12th
    2nd 12th April 10 2015 09: 45
    +1
    Good collection of photos. A unique aircraft. The working temperature of the nose and the edges of the wing and the glazing of the canopy is up to 360 degrees, the skin is up to 280. At these temperatures, the steel loses its strength and "creeps". A funny case during the development of a hydraulic system: one of the companies sent a powder in a bag to the competition. The powder turned into a liquid at 120 degrees. and worked confidently at 360.
    The engine at cruising speed gave out 70% of the thrust using the air intake. The transient process was called "air intake start"
    The photo clearly shows the corrugated casing under the wings. Made to compensate for thermal expansion. Otherwise, the rivets would have hurt.
    1. servant.
      servant. April 10 2015 09: 54
      0
      And on the MIG-25 there were no corrugated surfaces, and the rivets did not rip off for some reason!
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 April 10 2015 10: 51
        0
        .... And on the MIG-25 there were no corrugated surfaces, and the rivets did not rip off for some reason! ...

        ..... Mig -25 was an all-welded aircraft made of steel .... There were almost no rivets ... hi
    2. aleks 62
      aleks 62 April 10 2015 10: 50
      0
      In principle, everything is correct, but "... plating up to 280. At these temperatures, the steel loses its strength and" creeps "..... At this temperature, the aluminum alloy" creeps "..... Our designers solved this problem more elegantly, using ordinary steel in the manufacture of the MiG-25, which very unpleasantly surprised the amers when they got the MiG-25 stolen by Belkenko to Japan ... This is not counting the radar station on lamps, which surpassed the characteristics of the Amerovs on transistors ... hi
      1. servant.
        servant. April 10 2015 10: 58
        +1
        Of course, you went too far about radar, but everything is so about lamps! But the lamps weren’t from a good life ...
  11. Yuri from Volgograd
    Yuri from Volgograd April 10 2015 09: 58
    +1
    Masterpiece!
    He cheated time)
    1. aleks 62
      aleks 62 April 10 2015 10: 53
      0
      Masterpiece!
      He cheated time)

      ..... laughing .... A total of 32 pieces of "masterpieces" ..... We had more (about 500) of our masterpieces - Mig-25 .... hi
      1. servant.
        servant. April 10 2015 11: 00
        +1
        More than 1000 of all modifications of the MIG-25! But there is not a single museum exhibit like the Amerov SR-71! ....
  12. PistonizaToR
    PistonizaToR April 10 2015 10: 29
    +1
    Our 25th was welded, no rivets and made of stainless steel.
    1. servant.
      servant. April 10 2015 10: 34
      +1
      The nose of the MIG-25 and the cab duralumin and rivets, stabilizer, flaps too! During strong acceleration, there were times when the lining was in waves ...
    2. Foxbet
      Foxbet April 10 2015 12: 48
      +2
      Quote: PistonizaToR
      Our 25th was welded, no rivets and made of stainless steel.


      Do not. Riveted pile.
    3. gjv
      gjv April 10 2015 21: 13
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      Quote: PistonizaToR
      Our 25th was welded, no rivets and made of stainless steel.

      All-welded stainless steel is the compartment of the fuel tanks, as well as the wing consoles in the part where the fuel tanks are also.
      The front part and keels are made of heat-resistant high-alloy stainless steel VNS-5 and heat-resistant forging aluminum alloy AK-4. There are also titanium elements in the wing.
      The rest is mainly structural high-strength high-alloy steel VL-1 (Vladimir Lenin-1, analogues 30HGSA, 30HGSNMA).
      In the photo training (the former, unfortunately not at its best). Counting the number of rivets will be difficult. fellow
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  13. Foxbet
    Foxbet April 10 2015 12: 42
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    Quote: Head
    they took off from a base in Norway.


    They were based not in Norway, but in England - Mildenhol Air Base.
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    2. gjv
      gjv April 10 2015 20: 35
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      Quote: Head
      when they took off from a base in Norway. Immediately established mode 2 (I can forget, correct, who knows).

      Quote: FOXBET
      They were based not in Norway, but in England - Mildenhol Air Base.

      Here are the recollections of the MiG-31 pilot who served in Talag (Arkhangelsk region):
      SR-71 flew in regularly and on schedule. There were two routes of his flight - the right loop and the left loop. What caused this (the direction of its flight along our borders) is not completely clear. He took off from England, refueled in the Norwegian Sea and began to accelerate from the altitude. He went out on his route along the loop at a speed of 3000-3300 km / h and altitudes from 20000 to 24000 m. If he twisted the left loop, then he walked along the Kola Peninsula, Kanin Peninsula, Kolguev Island and began to twist the left loop along Novaya Zemlya with a turn towards Norway, and then descend, refuel and land again in England. If he twisted the right loop, then he went out into the area of ​​Novaya Zemlya and made a right turn, past about. Kolguev, Kanin Peninsula, along the Kola Peninsula went to Norway, then refueled and landed in England. At this time, all our air defense systems (air defense missile systems, RTV and Fighter Aviation) were alerted No. 1, all means of detection and destruction were turned on, and Aviation from different airfields flew out to the point designated for each taking off for interception, at which (if suddenly at some then there will be a violation of the state border by an SR-71 reconnaissance), it will be possible with a high degree of probability to hit the violator, and his debris will fall into the territorial waters of the USSR. But SR-71 never violated the border, did not fly over the "ribbon" and regularly took bearings of all air defense radio equipment that worked on it
  14. Taoist
    Taoist April 10 2015 13: 11
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    I sympathize with the pilots of this "miracle of hostile technology" ... With such a landing gear and specific aerodynamics (I'm not talking about the view from the cockpit), every takeoff and landing is truly a circus trick.
    very complex aircraft ... so complex that it was worth the candle?
  15. Foxbet
    Foxbet April 10 2015 13: 24
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    Quote: Taoist
    Was the "game worth the candle"?


    It was worth it. He did a lot of the tasks before him.
    1. Taoist
      Taoist April 10 2015 21: 07
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      Well, let's put it this way, he was given tasks as they understood that for what this machine was actually designed for him, it was not available to him ... Given that the MiG 25 was not much lower than the performance, which was much cheaper and could be operated by combat pilots and special fuel wasn’t demanded ... here a logical question arises ...
      The car, of course, was a record ... but its expediency is a big question ...
      1. servant.
        servant. April 10 2015 21: 14
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        Well, the feasibility of any aircraft can be called into question.
  16. orsker
    orsker April 10 2015 13: 27
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    Beautiful birds!
  17. 17085
    17085 April 10 2015 15: 14
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    Who will buy ??? There are two ... The problem is to overtake ... They will not be allowed to fly .... A steamer is needed or two ...
  18. SlavaP
    SlavaP April 10 2015 15: 15
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    The bird is really beautiful. And yet, soft and warm to the touch, like a living.
  19. Foxbet
    Foxbet April 11 2015 11: 46
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    Quote: Taoist
    not much lower characteristics had MiG 25


    Had the fortune to fly off on the MiG-25 for as long as 15 years. I know this plane from and to.
    "Blackbird" was afraid of him. But this does not detract from his performed tasks. Let it be not ours. But worth the praise.
  20. Gunther
    Gunther April 12 2015 02: 19
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    Good photo review, but not a good angle.