Officers and "jackals"

Discussion .. This is a word from which something ominous is coming to me even now. No, I didn’t happen there, thank God, although I could thunder for a sweet soul. As, however, any soldier is not immune from this. In our country, the debats were not created for the re-education of those who got there, but for the intimidation of soldiers in ordinary units. It is not by chance that after serving a term appointed by the tribunal, the soldier returned to the unit, to serve the term “appointed” by the oath .. Well, there, he was an example of what happens for violation of discipline. Therefore, the more unbearable the life of the "condemned" will be, the more effective will be the "living weapon of intimidation "soldiers. Officers like to bark on occasion:" Did you want to do this? Ask Ivanov what is there? "


Ivanov has long been asked, and his sullen silence, acts "more abruptly" than the most eloquent stories. So .., he said that all movements there or jogging, or marching. Stroyev - "zapadlo", so all the time running, at least a year, at least two, at least three .. He said that there "standardschina" complete. The charter is actually a good thing, but only on condition that it is respected by all, both subordinates and superiors.

How to get there? As a rule, after a trial court. Also a repulsive sight, like a public execution.
There are no acquittals on demonstration courts, the case is “sewn” conscientiously. And punished severely, so that the soldiers and their comrades in attendance would be unaware.

Officers and "jackals"


And me, and several other guys, were literally saved by our colleague and friend Valei Oleg (in the photo, second from the right). It was in the 96 year in the village of Kamenka, Leningrad region. We served in the 1-m self-propelled division of the 805-th artillery regiment.
Started история So..

Charging

As usual in 6.00, the orderlies turned on the lights in the barracks and after a second there was a shout: "By-olk, Rise!" Everyone got up and began to dress slowly. There was a chance that the person responsible for the division would not come to the “rise”, then it would be possible to sit in the copter and not run, with a bunch of similar eccentrics stripped to the belt with the letter “M”, in search of shelter from the prickly autumn snow, cold wind and "shakal" eyes .. But in the "disposition" suddenly shrill hissed: "Seka!". Someone saw that our responsible man had entered the barracks. The mood was spoiled in the morning, as today the deputy commander for educational work (“commander,” in short), Major Nikulin of the Guard, came to the “rise”.

Major Nikulin was a pretty slippery companion. On the one hand, the soldier tried to climb into one well-known place without soap, on the other, we knew which side he was on ... Devotedly looked into the commander’s eyes, but changed drastically when he went on vacation, for example. My first acquaintance with him was remarkable in that for the first time my illusions about army service were dispelled. My father was an officer, he taught at the NVP (elementary military training) school, and, from childhood, I remember the words that "there is such a profession - to defend the Motherland!" By the way, there was a radio circle at school, which in fact was actually a sabotage school. All those who visited him, and there were a lot of them, knew the Morse code, the basics of orienteering and military topography, survival in the forest, calmly held a weapon in their hands. In a word, they didn’t even need to be taught anything in the army. But Major Nikulin knew that the soldier lacked discipline and therefore fought against its violations even before they were committed. And now, immediately after the oath, they call me a blotter, and there, at the laid table, almost all of our division command is sitting. I walk as it should, like nothing bad .. Nikulin gets up, starts yelling something about the fact that I am a bad soldier, that the officers answer boldly, and during his monologue, he hits my face a couple of times. Not painful at all, but somehow disgusting. Well, I think, all my life my father was preparing for a decent service in the army, and then some figure in the rank of major beats in the face. He continues to shout, and I think: "When I managed to nadzerzit officers, it seems like -" two hours from the train. "Then he begins to shake some piece of paper in front of me, saying:" You will not be so easy to live with me how he lived in a civilian! Understand me? "As if he knew how I lived .. Only then it dawned on me that this piece of paper was a characteristic from the school from which I had been dismissed at one time. Naturally, not for good behavior, and Major Nikulin decided to deliver a preemptive strike, to prevent confusion in the division.

And today he, as a responsible officer, appeared on the rise. The division was built, he was told who was appointed by the cleaners in the unit. From the first battery Valey Oleg was appointed. Zampolit warned us for the hundredth time that he would smoke near the entrance to the barracks and count how many laps we run around the parade ground. But we knew that he would smoke a cigarette, and he would go to a warm place somewhere, a “jackal”, after all, was also a man. Well, we ran a couple of laps, we look, it is not. We smoked in the sports area and began to infiltrate a couple of people in the barracks. Come and see the picture. Valeic is sitting on a stool in some incomprehensible state in the "disposition", and he is supported so that he does not fall on the floor, Private Brower, blood flows from Oleg's head ..

And this is what happened .. When we ran out for charging, Valeic went to the toilet while he was washing there, then yes, this young fighter, by the name of Brower, took the harvesting equipment out of habit and started quietly cleaning himself. I must say that Brower was the only young man in the first battery, and it so happened that he did not go for exercises, but he was a permanent cleaner in the morning. At this time, for some reason, the "political leader" returned to the location. Seeing that instead of Valeich cleaned young, he went berserk. Oleg washed himself at that time, and not finding a mop at his usual place, because he thought that today he would have to clean himself, he returned to the location of the battery. It was there that got "under the hand". The major snatched the mop from Brauer and hit Oleg in the temple with a hammer.

Then he just left. Brower tried to help Valeic in some way, but where are there. Meanwhile, we returned, delivered Oleg to the medical unit, and after a short time we learned that he had been placed in a garrison hospital.

Booze

It must be admitted that the officer scuffle in Kamenka is so customary that if Oleg had not received such a serious injury, we would have forgotten this case the next day. But the "jackals" and so at that time everyone got it, and then everyone understood that because of such a caregiver you just could not return home. We had to somehow put them in place, but how? Someone suggested writing a letter to the committee of soldiers' mothers, even, hehe, to the president. In general, they did not agree on anything concrete, but decided not to let the jackals hush up the matter. In the meantime, bad news came that Oleg had already been taken to St. Petersburg to the district hospital, that he would be operated on, and he had amnesia. I remember that for some reason everyone was anxious at heart, and this was felt among the boys .. Major Nikulin was removed away from the soldiers for the position of the head of the club. That's right, by the way they did it, the people have already gone about their way. Through the informers, the command found out that there was a booze in the unit. People are tired of being held for sheep, the situation could get out of control. From the very beginning I was sure that I would hold meetings, write letters, etc. it makes no sense, and decided to take revenge on the major in person. I don’t think that I was right then, but for the sake of truth I’ll say that I first wanted to burn his car. What does it have to do with a car (?), But somehow, nothing else came to my head in 19 for years. Then he decided to burn him in the apartment, but the boys said that he had a small daughter and I refused this stupid thought at all ..



After Oleg was taken to St. Petersburg, there was no news of him for a long time. But we learned that we had a criminal case on non-statutory relations. Not weak, huh ?! In general, while we were ranting on the topic of injustice, the authorities acted. In one morning, with a divorce, we took away our "young" somewhere, and for about a day we did not see them at all. It turned out that our former “educator” and companions sought a report from them that hazing thrived in the division, and the fault of this was Valya, your humble servant, and several other names. They didn’t achieve much, they simply didn’t let anything out of the classroom for about a day, neither eat nor (sorry) to ... en. We must pay tribute to the lads, only a couple of people agreed, and not because they were somehow afraid of me, I'm sure of it.

Meanwhile, the major drew a certificate that he was wounded in Chechnya. Who served in 1995 as part of 1, the GARDEN knows that it could only be hit with a head-on self-propelled gun if there was too much. Then they turned the case as if in the battalion "hazing" acquired such proportions that the major-political officer could not stand it, took up the harvesting equipment and let’s fight with her, damned.

They began to take us to the prosecutor's office one by one, in the city of Vyborg for interrogations. Vyborg is a beautiful city. Probably it would be great to take a walk with your beloved through its ancient streets or the embankment of the Gulf of Finland. For some reason I remember the huge black stones covered with green moss - the remains of an ancient fortress. You will laugh, but they really, like living, silent observers, contemplate what is happening around. And, probably, give their, highly experienced assessment of our life with you. And while they are contemplating, they are trying to put us on a discussion board. I will not talk about the interrogations, there was nothing remarkable about them. But no, one moment was. For some reason, one "comrade" wrote that I was forcing him to go for an addition to the dining room. I looked at his name, the investigator blundered. I still want to ask "Mohonyu" why he wrote such nonsense, because never such was not. Well, I would have written what I beat, I took the money ... Although there was no such thing, but at least the charge would have been more impressive. And then, dining, "additive" some ..

Diverged edges

Then, the calls to the prosecutor’s office stopped abruptly. We have long been in the dark about what will happen next, until I met with Oleg. He said that after he had a surgery, an investigator came to him, who was leading the case of Major Nikulin. He shook the file with the case on us and said: You have two options: first, the major will be given a "condition", you will be treated, and you go to complete your term, and your sidekick will go on a Stolypin car to the disbat. Or: you refuse to complain to the political officer, you are commissioned and you go home, and your friends quietly continue to pull their “strap” in part until the demob itself, and as you know, it is inevitable! Choose



Oleg then asked me when he saw that I was not very happy about his story: "Did I do the right thing, that I gave up?" Well, what can you say, of course right! How it all could turn alone God knows, and so, everyone returned home. As for the major, we never saw him again. In his place came a new commander. We had no conflicts with him. When the day of our retirement arrived, he volunteered to take us to the bus stop. We didn’t move 15 meters away from the headquarters of the new deputy politician to start the song: “They say it would not hurt to“ put down ”for the demob. Okay, at least not for me, I’ve been here recently, but you need your officers with whom you served ..”

I agree, the officers need it, and I’d have great pleasure in raising a hundred grams now, and more than once, for my commander Captain Golub Igor Alekseevich. Here with him, I believe that he served. His entire regiment knew and respected. By the way, he kept as a rule never to touch a soldier with a finger, although he could. And the dick could send any commanding strategist, if he began to force the soldiers to do useless work. In short, a normal guy. And we did not leave money for the sing of those who nearly rolled the debat. They were surely sent a new political officer, because they knew that they didn’t shine anything from us except a strong Arkhangelsk word. Yes, and what to take with them, in a word - "jackals".
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  1. strelok-07
    strelok-07 30 September 2011 00: 39 New
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    Your confession reminded me of the times of my service. I believe that you did the right thing and your colleague Oleg went against the truth for noble purposes. Once in a disbath, you would become embittered all over the world, bring much sorrow to your near and dear ones, and nobody needed the truth for which you were going to fight. I know what I'm talking about, served in the disciplinary battalion system for 9,5 years. Everything was, but I thought, and now I think that the fittest part of the blame for the crimes in the Armed Forces lies with the officers and ensigns, not the soldiers. I also heard about your Kamenka, a “rotten” place, of true unit officers.
  2. Bashibuzuk 31 August 2017 12: 18 New
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    I did not serve there, but some moments are very annoying.
    1. ".... I must say that Brower was the only young one in the first battery, and it so happened that he did not go to charge, but was a permanent cleaner in the morning. ..." - but Brower would not be "permanent "a killer - then the incident would not have happened. It is clear that no one in the ".man dreaming to relax .." will not turn the only young one, he seems to be just incredibly lucky that he turned out to be the one and only disconnected young man.
    2. Buza ... about which the informers reported. In general, I know that in any case there are always grater-disassembly and rumors circulate at any level. But, so uniquely perceived that the soldiers, they say, start a booze, and even in such a way that the officers were excited - it leads me to an unequivocal opinion - not everything was so calm "in the Danish kingdom."
    What happened?
    And there was precisely "hazing."
    Excuse me, Alexey Nesmelov, I do not believe the accuracy of the above.
    How many were young? Of which only two wrote obscene nonsense? So, it means that your “grandfathers” were so intimidating the rest that they would not write anything under pain of pulling out their teeth.
    No matter how “jackal” this major is, in my life I won’t believe that the political officer will, for no reason at all, play with all the dope MOP for the old-time soldier. AT THE WITNESS.
    Oleg, I guess, just sent a political officer, with a young one. Show your toughness. Well, I ran into.
    And the rest, "grandfathers", let's develop plans for revenge, right up to the arson of the apartment?
    Did you even serve there? Or were they in a gang of gangs?
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    I myself, practically, ended up in the place of this major. One to one. But he didn’t break anyone’s head.
    And I know very well how rotten the structure in which this is possible.
    I didn’t have a club. On the ship, somehow, clubs are not provided. But no one was going to kill me, set fire to the dark suit. And then only treated with respect.
    So .... I do not believe in objectivity. I do not believe.
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    And the fact that “jackal” is enough - do not go to the grandmother.
  3. Paranoid50 31 August 2017 17: 13 New
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    Wow - an article of 2011, still has not caught my eye. Damn it, the duration is 1996. The first year (month) of my service ... And (almost mysticism) today, 31.08.2017/20/XNUMX - exactly XNUMX years from the moment of our collective "flight". Nothing special, lightly waved their fists within the company, call to call. “Aggravating” was that they were in attire, in the galley. The reason was completely crazy - it all started with musical preferences (rap-cal, pop-sucks, etc.). Word for word, it started ... It would have carried it, but, as often happens, there were "informants" ... For seven days from the battalion commander, and for some, the company sold three more. It happens, where without a "lip". laughing Here, as they say, without complaints, they got the case. There was, of course, "hazing", but "light", almost statutory. Anyway, I think that the team was lucky - the company was strong. Of course, everything happened, including and "jackals" (I do not like this word) threads skipped. It was a matter of the Komvzvoda-three, being responsible that day, came into the company for evening calibration, literally "in the trash", and even with the dog. And all would be fine, BUT: the "dog" was a reckless Doberman without a muzzle. yes The result is four fighters with bites of various lousy. And every morning, body examinations were already carried out on their subject. yes The next day, the “beneficiary” personally apologized to half of the company. I don’t know how they settled down with the hospital and medical unit (a dog bite is difficult to confuse with other wounds), but they hushed up. True, an apology was knocked out of him .... by blackmail and deceit, taking "to show off." They threatened that everything was filmed, shaking the camera taken in the HSC yes So, as regards the article, the truth, as usual, is somewhere in the center. And the fighters are not angels, but some representatives of the officer corps also, sometimes, should "hold onto the brain."
  4. Nic
    Nic 2 September 2017 18: 33 New
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    I don’t know how in the modern army (most likely everything has degraded so much that even bullying is lacking), but there was nothing educational and positive and all the more ridiculous in what happened between the insane soldiers of the late USSR who fell into complete infantile insanity. Nobody wrote anything sensible on this subject, but in order for an outsider to imagine what was there (of course, the army was large and not everywhere it was really quite bad) you should first read Lord of the Flies and the stories of Russian writers about no less “positive” charms serfdom, especially what the landowners did with the courtyard. Given that most of the soldiers were first “Gerasimi”, and then “Saltychikhami”, it is not difficult to guess that the service in the SA damaged their brains for life. In short - the SA and the Navy of the late USSR were commonplace colonies for youngsters and there is nothing funny about it.
  5. Sergey Experienced 2 September 2017 22: 53 New
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    Hazing at you dear in the division was Akhov! Well, all the officers and prosecutors took up arms against you furry! The battery commander, whom you call a man and feel warm feelings along the way, is a floor rag. But what about it - the boss sends you and doesn’t touch you with a finger ... He would have put a young fighter whom you put into action. I did so ... appointed " demobilization "outfit and gave time to clean the toa


    summers and such as your ears in my eyes put things in order ... And



    There were no shoots and no suicides among the young people. And the political leader certainly went too far .... I probably had to wrap the stick with a rag to collect cattle in the herd!

  6. Sergey Experienced 2 September 2017 23: 14 New
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    Hazing you respected in the division was Akhov! Why didn’t I go on physical exercises, like, according to the service life, it is not supposed? Why was the young soldier frowned? The battery commander, whom you call a man and feel warm feelings along the way, a rag ... Well, how does the authorities send you and do not touch you with a finger, you can drink a hundred grams with that ... A real commander, damn it! They didn’t justify the Zampolit, but I think it was difficult for him alone to fight livestock.
  7. yes don't care 4 September 2017 04: 51 New
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    Such a plak cry for those who did not serve? White pancake and fluffy))) There is no hazing, but there is an eternal duty officer)))
  8. Aviaded 8 September 2017 13: 55 New
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    No, I have never been there, thank God, although I could rattle for a sweet soul. As, however, and any soldier is not immune from this. Disbats in our country were created not to re-educate those who got there, but to intimidate soldiers in ordinary units.
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    I want to cry already. From worries about the difficult fate of the conscript, constantly walking under the domoclesque sword of disbath.
    However set aside tears! Carry out the service as expected, not a Borzoi and disbath does not threaten you. I will tell from the experience of my service. In the two years of my service (DMB88), three of our regiment went to the "diesel" and one sat down for 5 years of general operation. Every single one is not just, but got what they deserve. For serious misconduct. You’ve not condemned anyone "for a great life". Minor "pranks", like a self-propelled gun or a booze, were punished with a maximum of "lip."
    Regarding the "eternal cleaner" .... Yes, it is felt that for the spirits in that part there was a real "hanger". The fact that no one hanged himself does not mean that the spirits were simply happy from the orders that prevailed there. It was correctly noted in the commentary above, the commander in that part was not there if he allowed such things to flourish.
    But the major was wrong. How not to twist. Then the commander had enough legal methods to break the horns of the most stubborn and lazy grandfathers. I heard that now, with "democracy", this is much worse.
  9. Fox
    Fox 8 September 2017 21: 11 New
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    there was a case when the ensign and the captain, the signalmen decided to show the power ... they wanted to give orders in training and suspenders ... and we were from the other unit ... jumped next to us, but it was scary, we both engaged in boxing ... jackals otkanuli ... then our lieutenant of this captain noted. for all. different people were.
  10. Sasha_Sar 21 September 2017 15: 27 New
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    You read this nonsense and wonder. I’ll start with the “discord”, or rather, with the soldier who served with us after this “discord”. To be honest, I didn’t feel sorry for him, a man of 5 years urgent served. He flew up in the third year of service for "non-instability", received 2 years of "disband", then still served up to the order. Flew through his fault, never heard from him that he was "framed." The time was then difficult 92 years, with the feeding was "not ice", spinning as best they could to feed the fighters. So he said that in the disbath “they fed much better, everything that was laid down according to the norm was given out rigorously. This was probably a clear example before the rear, that if they find a“ place ”there. By the way, after the“ disbath ”no where there is no record that the soldier had a criminal record that could ruin his life.Now about himself, during his service as an officer he struggled with the "anniversary", officers who treat "conscripts" as serfs treat contempt. These are not officers, but correctly said “jackals.” During the service in the same 92nd was a great desire I didn’t throw one scum into a disbath, but the high authorities didn’t give a course to the situation, so as not to spoil the indicators, while at the same time I tried to turn out “fur outside” and smear Lesha Konyakhin from Moscow from prison. All he could do was what he got I’ve conditionally terminated the contract with him. I completely agree that where the officers maintain discipline in the unit, everything will be OK. And where there is drunkenness and the delegation of their duties to the "gods", there will be trouble. I remember all my “fighters” who served “honestly” by their first and last names, although 30 years have passed. What is happening right now is not comprehensible to my mind. Officers "buy" a position, "buy" the implementation of standards for physical training. Maybe this is not in the combat units, information from the rear. But what can we come to?
  11. Brushing 29 January 2018 00: 39 New
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    Quote: Bashibuzuk

    I myself, practically, ended up in the place of this major. One to one. But he didn’t break anyone’s head.
    And I know very well how rotten the structure in which this is possible.
    I didn’t have a club. On the ship, somehow, clubs are not provided. But no one was going to kill me, set fire to the dark suit. And then only treated with respect.
    So .... I do not believe in objectivity. I do not believe.
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    And the fact that “jackal” is enough - do not go to the grandmother.


    You don’t have to trynit .... I as a person who served voluntarily can say 100% that hazing is quite satisfactory for officers .... and even between the officers themselves ... - it all depends on the call if normal boys came, then everyone is happy and everyone is on their own, and if, through one, malacholny people begin to hang themselves up, eat needles and write complaints to their parents, then the officers begin to imitate the fight against hazing ....))))
  12. SASHA OLD April 9 2018 09: 49 New
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    when I served (starting from 2001), we had jackals (especially at the training camp, in Ipatovo, the training camp of the military school, "indicative") and real officers, there were even those about whom the opinion changed: for example, com. companies at the training camp Captain Mishkov - apparently an old man, over 50 years old, later found out that he was only 27 ... just a couple of years before our call, he blocked a young man from a cadet fool who turned with a machine gun to the formation, two bullets flew into it, one in the body, the second in the face (the brain was not hurt, as I understand it, one foreman told me that the sight was terrible, a part of the face was "taken off"), his face was collected in the hospital, and what we considered for miserable wrinkles It turned out to be the consequences of plastic on the face (maybe the wrong plastic, I don’t know, but he looked flax as an old man, no drunken man namely as old grandpa)
    the jackal was the older Pavlov, the commander of the neighboring training platoon, and the jackal was the jackal: the guy with the look of a model was a smooth, fair face with the right features, his pins were always the most brilliant in the construction, like the cockade with buttonholes, the physical box was normal, at first glance - a role model ... but for him to close a soldier on the lip (it was canceled only since 2002) was almost a matter of honor, in this he even poured over the local special officers, when he remained responsible for the company everyone understood that everyone could go on guardhouse, in generally for any trifle, then, as it turned out, he left with the head of the spare part and fuel and lubricants from the fleet, they found out about this, there was a trial, but how it ended - I don’t know, I was sent to the Caspian Border Detachment to catch poachers at the 3rd outpost named after Andrei Babushkina (the outpost is more for internships of young personnel like me, nominal, indicative, they always drive me there to retrain all from school), I stayed there for only a month but I immediately realized how the training differs from normal service ..: I was taught at the radar station in training, therefore the head decided to put I have an internship for the radar - Naiad-5, it’s such a “washing machine” of the Soviet era, where, just like in the movie, a strip runs around in a circle and you can see the dots))) (I didn’t see her in the eye, so I describe it that way) , there is an aggregate room and a waveguide tract with an antenna on a high rack near the barracks. In short, they put a mentor for me - ml.c. Mogutov Andryukha, falling asleep, he managed to tell me: "Small, stay there short, fall asleep - back ... I see" ... well, I looked at the CRT, there are no goals, the demobilization is inevitable. .. and also fell asleep ...
    at some point, an enraged captain flies to the PTN (technical monitoring post) - the head of the outpost and yells: "How many targets are on the site !!!" - "Comrade Mr., there are no goals on the site!" - the awakened Mogutov answered. I also naturally jumped up ... the cap took the ns by the scruff of his neck and pulled out like kittens whipped ... I think - they will drive through the mud in the armor with a duffle bag full of sand, everything is as usual - what to do ... do not care .. .
    it turned out that while we were breathing (as Andryukha later said, he woke up, saw that I was sleeping, kicked - I didn’t react, he looked at the CRT - everything was quiet, I thought that then I’ll break through my chest, after dressing up ... and it turned out twice in short, he also fell asleep again) ..
    And here we are on the street, opposite the sea, it can be seen from the outpost, it is a hundred meters from it ..., it can be seen even at night, it looks like oil in the dark ... but I did not see the “oil” (I'm like a resident of Surgut I knew what the oil looked like))), but I saw a garland, I didn’t understand what it was - it turned out that while we were sleeping we were “passed” to us from the neighboring outpost (we just said and didn’t wait for an answer, the same gouging as we did) that from their section to ours drifts due to a malfunction of the power plant NIS (research vessel), I don’t remember which, not too big, but at night its lights looked like a garland, it was washed ashore strictly on the traverse of the outpost and it ran aground ... while they carried it to us they shouted at us on the Seiner (intercom with civil courts) but we turned down the volume before falling asleep (probably it did I, most likely), the ship is shorter aground, what should I do? We thought EVERYTHING - the service is over - they’ll get dirty, but the captain suddenly started telling us how to act, what to write, we had to break the Seiner a bit, they said we couldn’t transmit it — the damage to the civilian device, we saw everything on the radar, we made the recording, good between the lines "didn’t have to be entered - there were no goals anymore, the ship was not the first such breakdown, someone turns out to be towing it regularly ... the old one, they called back to the port of Makhachkala, requested a tug, everything worked out ... here’s the cap, it’s kind of covering his ass, but on the other hand he’s responsible e was, of course it would have flown, but not very much, and we ... well, maybe they wouldn’t have sent it to a “diesel”, but the lip would have been provided - the cap helped us out, and the person responsible for the outpost, well, I’ve been able to explain myself - there was no kipish ...
    it was only the very beginning of my service, the second month of several years was coming ... I slowly got used to the fact that for a big jamb you can get a reprimand and for a trifle get into a disbat ...
    I love the army, if I did not get type 1 diabetes, I would still serve because I was sent to the mountains further (I became a KO and the head of PSNR-5, a portable ground reconnaissance station-5 - a 60s-70 dinosaur -h, but still relevant by the way!) and there I liked it even more ... the farther from (at first glance) the "greenhouse" training, the more I liked to serve
    1. Qwede 20 May 2018 01: 29 New
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      Sasha, a lovely, sweet story. I liked how you violated the oath while on combat duty, and then warmly remembered the officer who put the bolt on it. If your magnificent story rewrite on honey. topic, then he plays with new colors.
      For example, about how the doctor on duty fell asleep on duty and 3 patients died. But the good head doctor helped to hush up the matter so that the indicators do not spoil. It is so beautiful .... I am just in awe.
  13. Etienne 16 September 2018 05: 23 New
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    I was lucky, the army in question, I saw after 17 years, the first time I got into retraining. Nobody touched us old people, they understood who they were dealing with. He took the oath in August 1965.
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    Non-jackal jackals ... But I wonder what word a soldier who doesn’t want to undergo military training can be called in view of the innate stupidity, real or imaginary, who crawls before a senior call for a year, and then year vilely scoffs at those who are younger, who accepted the oath (I will not remind you of the word) - in fact, does not keep this word - "... I swear ..." and so on and so forth. I understand it this way - if you are such a “cool” pepper, you don’t care about the Charters, what you drafted into the army - if you are such a “pepper” - you had to refuse to serve in the military enlistment office, prove your coolness, go to the end ... And then, like, he promised a bunch (swore) - and off hell - why do you have to keep on wearing clothes, why do something, if I don’t want to, why do I need to learn something, and then "... I’m not supposed to ... “I don’t know, in our reconnaissance reconnaissance reconnaissance regiment’s orders were tough (1984-1989, GSVG), the discipline was specific, the soldiers were taught everything that was necessary, they were hard taught, some they lived on and transferred to the infantry, but - this year, as always, on the day of the Airborne Forces I was congratulated by my former subordinates (already having grandchildren) who quit in 1987-1988 - although I was tearing them hard and mercilessly, everything happened, but I'm sure - no one called the jackals officers of our company and would dare to call them!