At IDEX 2015, Rheinmetall surprised by its high-power laser installed on the GTK Boxer platform.

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At IDEX 2015, Rheinmetall surprised by its high-power laser installed on the GTK Boxer platform.

Rheinmetall has invested significant amounts in the design and development of high-power HEL (high-energy laser) lasers for combat use. At IDEX 2015, the company showed a system installed on a multi-role armored vehicle Boxer 8x8 MRAV manufactured by ARTEC.

The concept of the Boxer family is based on a single chassis and interchangeable functional modules that are installed for specific user tasks. These modules, mounted on the chassis, created to obtain maximum operational flexibility, in turn served as an impetus to the development of a wide range of specialized options.



ARTEC company multipurpose Boxer 8x8 MRAV armored vehicle with a rooftop 20 kW laser

During tests conducted in Switzerland in 2013 in the presence of several high-level foreign delegations, Rheinmetall showed its HEL system installed on three ground platforms. In addition to the Boxer MRAV, the other two platforms were the RUAG Defense M113 tracked armored personnel carrier and the Tatra 8x8 off-road protected truck.

The RUAG M113 BTR was equipped with an HEL powering device with a power of 5 kW, which received the designation Mobile HEL Effector Track V, which successfully demonstrated the remote detonation of ammunition. The third container installation HEL with a power of 50 kW on the Tatra truck 8x8 received the designation Mobile HEL Effector Container L. The Roman numerals V, XX and L correspond to the categories of the laser 5 kW, 20 kW and 50 kW.

In parallel, Rheinmetall Air Defense also tested its Skyshield air defense system, in which the 35-mm gun was replaced with a HEL installation. During tests in Switzerland, the Skyshield HEL laser actuator was able to successfully destroy several attacking mortar shells.

Presented at the IDEX 2015 exhibition, the 20 kW mobile unit under the designation Mobile HEL Effector Wheel XX, installed on the GTK Boxer, features a special executive module HEL, which fully takes advantage of the proprietary know-how of Rheinmetall, which is based on beam stacking technology. In addition, this technology allows not only to implement the imposition of several lasers on one firing platform, but also the addition of several rays of different platforms. This allows you to get almost unlimited (for example, 100 kW and more) output power in accordance with the development of air defense requirements. As a result, the HEL installation can provide effective protection against a wide range of modern air threats.

The combination of HEL Boxer is a newest system that implements the technology of mobile high-energy laser weapons - the integration of the laser module (including power supply and cooling) and the Boxer machine with its inherent high level of protection and unique mobility.

The HEL Boxer installation is capable of neutralizing modern air and asymmetric threats. It is notable for its excellent reconfiguration of the threat: from the disabling of optical-electronic systems on aircraft, knocking down UAVs, to neutralizing the ammunition of weapons systems without their destruction and neutralizing unexploded ordnance and clearing obstacles on the battlefield.

HEL Boxer has many advantages: mobility, low cost of destruction, the ability to disable optical-electronic systems, UAVs, destroy ammunition systems of weapons systems, unexploded ordnance, etc.

According to the data of Rheinmetall, the destruction range of this technology demonstration sample is 3000 meters - an increase of 1000 meters compared to the results of previous demonstrations of HEL installations.



Exhibition IDEX 2015. Rheinmetall company booth. Close shot of the HEL module installed on the Boxer

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  1. +1
    27 March 2015 06: 15
    They just thought of this. Back in the 90s, we had a "COMPRESSION" complex that could realize several beams with different parameters at once!
    The 1K17 complex had an automatic search and guidance on objects flashing from the radiation of a multi-channel ruby ​​solid-state laser. a crystal. The working fluid of the laser is yttrium aluminum garnet with neodymium additives, which allows developing high power in a pulsed mode.
    1. +21
      27 March 2015 07: 45
      Yes, the type of this machine can definitely cause compression ..
      1. 0
        28 March 2015 16: 15
        Everyone laughs at their lasers, and in fact such a laser armored cars can burn all optical sensors to real tanks in minutes, and even to the eyes of the mechanics, this is quite serious.
    2. -6
      27 March 2015 08: 02
      Quote: Good
      They just thought of this. Back in the 90s, we had a "COMPRESSION" complex that could realize several beams with different parameters at once!

      So where is he?
      1. +8
        27 March 2015 08: 28
        Quote: professor
        So where is he?

        Where is the "Iron Ray" professor?
        1. -9
          27 March 2015 11: 35
          Quote: Timeout
          Where is the "Iron Ray" professor?

          Getting ready for deployment in regular parts ... request
          1. +10
            27 March 2015 12: 03
            Quote: professor
            Getting ready for deployment in regular parts ...

            Palestinians have to polish rockets to a mirror shine laughing
            1. -1
              27 March 2015 12: 13
              Quote: GRAY
              Palestinians have to polish rockets to a mirror shine

              Firstly, not missiles, but mines, and secondly, it will not help. The laser even burns the mirror.

              Quote: WABAN
              meaning from these lasers? when ordinary fog or smoke negates its characteristics, dear toy, it may take years to come up with when they come up with a powerful pocket battery

              It does not negate, but only worsens the performance.
              1. MMX
                +7
                27 March 2015 13: 25
                It does not negate, but only worsens the performance.


                Uh-huh, and the target will hang in the air for now and wait until the "deteriorated characteristics" achieve the result ...
              2. +2
                27 March 2015 15: 29
                Quote: professor
                It does not negate, but only worsens the performance.

                Moreover, this very much depends on the ratios of the characteristic particle size of the suspension and the wavelength of the laser used.
                1. -4
                  27 March 2015 15: 31
                  Quote: tchoni
                  Moreover, this very much depends on the ratios of the characteristic particle size of the suspension and the wavelength of the laser used.

                  It depends on many parameters, there are wavelengths for which the fog is almost transparent.
                  1. +1
                    31 March 2015 13: 18
                    but there is no laser that can arbitrarily select the radiation frequency depending on the weather.
                    1. 0
                      31 March 2015 16: 38
                      Quote: yehat
                      but there is no laser that can arbitrarily select the radiation frequency depending on the weather.

                      Of course there is- tunable laser
              3. +3
                27 March 2015 15: 33
                By the way, the question is about the iron beam. How does he deal with a series of several mines?
                1. -2
                  27 March 2015 17: 18
                  Quote: tchoni
                  By the way, the question is about the iron beam. How does he deal with a series of several mines?

                  He does not cope in any way, he is not yet in service. But the ancient Nautilus coped with a bang.
                  1. 0
                    28 March 2015 08: 29
                    Quote: professor
                    But the ancient Nautilus coped with a bang.

                    Interesting video. But, I’m afraid it only proves that the Führer is great and the Reich is eternal, but it still sheds little light on the question of the effectiveness of combating a series of mines (up to 30 pieces, namely, how much a good mortar calculation will produce in a minute). The flight time of a mine of a distance of 3 km is approximately 15-20 seconds. It takes 4-6 seconds to destroy one mine (according to the video), the interval in the series between mines is up to 2 seconds ... Therefore, without resorting to a full-scale experiment, we can conclude that a series of 3 minutes will be intercepted with a guarantee of 5- 6 will most likely be intercepted, and a series of more than 8 minutes will most likely not be completely intercepted ...
                    1. -2
                      28 March 2015 08: 47
                      Quote: tchoni
                      to the question of the effectiveness of the fight against a series of mines (up to 30 pieces, namely, so much a good mortar calculation will be released per minute) it still sheds weakly.

                      Nobody will allow a "good mortar crew" to come within shot range of a guarded object, turn around and fire for a whole minute. He will be destroyed on the way.

                      The system will destroy single shells fired on a regular basis.

                      Quote: tchoni
                      ... Therefore, without resorting to a full-scale experiment, we can conclude that a series of 3 minutes will be intercepted with a guarantee, of 5-6 it will most likely be intercepted, and a series of more than 8 minutes will most likely not be completely intercepted ...

                      How many mines can an alternative system intercept? wink
                      1. 0
                        28 March 2015 11: 09
                        Quote: professor
                        How many mines can an alternative system intercept?

                        Not at all .... Oleg, the question was asked not to lower the sons of Israel below the baseboard, but to understand how effective this system is.

                        Nobody will allow a "good mortar crew" to come within shot range of a guarded object, turn around and fire for a whole minute. He will be destroyed on the way.

                        Unlikely. It’s very difficult to fight a mobile mortar group ...
                      2. 0
                        28 March 2015 11: 50
                        Quote: tchoni
                        Not at all .... Oleg, the question was asked not to lower the sons of Israel below the baseboard, but to understand how effective this system is.

                        What does the sons of Israel have to do with it? In the article, the system is not theirs, and I brought the video of the American system.

                        How effective the system can show only the fighting and only they are sworn.

                        Quote: tchoni
                        Unlikely. It’s very difficult to fight a mobile mortar group ...

                        No mobile group will be allowed to approach the distance of the shot. A mortar, and only one children can use a single and one-time mortar.


                      3. 0
                        28 March 2015 20: 28
                        Quote: professor
                        No mobile group will be allowed to approach the distance of the shot.

                        Tady on which X such a system?
                        If they can shoot one, they will be able to dozens ....
                      4. 0
                        28 March 2015 20: 32
                        Quote: tchoni
                        Tady on which X such a system?
                        If they can shoot one, they will be able to dozens ....

                        To intercept single mines.
                      5. +1
                        29 March 2015 17: 27
                        Quote: professor
                        To intercept single mines.

                        Illogical. If you can prevent the launch - why bother and intercept?
                      6. 0
                        29 March 2015 20: 15
                        Quote: tchoni
                        Illogical. If you can prevent the launch - why bother and intercept?

                        Protection of advanced bases for example.
                      7. 0
                        30 March 2015 08: 39
                        I do not quite understand the logic ....
                        If we allow a single launch, we, purely logically, are forced to allow the possibility of a series .... But it is difficult to intercept it (we sort of figured it out)
                        If we do not allow a single launch, there is nothing to intercept .....
                      8. 0
                        30 March 2015 09: 34
                        Quote: tchoni
                        I do not quite understand the logic ....
                        If we allow a single launch, we, purely logically, are forced to allow the possibility of a series .... But it is difficult to intercept it (we sort of figured it out)
                        If we do not allow a single launch, there is nothing to intercept .....

                        We allow single shots since there is no sterile territory. They can always drag the barrel and a dozen mines, set in the direction of the guarded object and manage to fire a couple of shots before they are smashed to pieces. These single shots should be intercepted by the system. It is not designed to intercept battery firing.
              4. +1
                27 March 2015 17: 01
                Quote: professor
                Firstly, not missiles, but mines, and secondly, it will not help. The laser even burns the mirror.

                The question is how quickly and what is the mirror made of. There is an idea to stir up the "onion".
                >> And if you aim such a laser at a disco ball, it will fry everything around?
                laughing
                1. -3
                  27 March 2015 17: 21
                  Quote: GRAY
                  The question is how quickly and what is the mirror made of. There is an idea to stir up the "onion".

                  When they become so much technologically advanced, they will direct their intelligence and energy into a creative channel. laughing
            2. +3
              27 March 2015 12: 48
              Quote: GRAY
              Palestinians have to polish rockets to a mirror shine

              But while in Palestine they do not know about this Jewish laser "miracle weapon" and continue to paint rockets green or gray lol
          2. +3
            27 March 2015 14: 43
            Quote: professor
            Quote: Timeout
            Where is the "Iron Ray" professor?

            Getting ready for deployment in regular parts ... request

            I wonder if the parts are as invisible as the Iron Beam in Singapore?
            1. -4
              27 March 2015 14: 48
              Quote: Timeout
              I wonder if the parts are as invisible as the Iron Beam in Singapore?

              Bitakhon garden though. Namir and Tamuz were "invisible" for almost 20 years. The time will come and we will see another bummer of the Arabs. wink
              1. +3
                27 March 2015 23: 25
                Quote: professor

                Bitakhon garden though. Namir and Tamuz were "invisible" for almost 20 years. The time will come and we will see another bummer of the Arabs.


                You have too much joy just from the fact that you are destroying the indigenous Arab population and seizing foreign lands, relying on external assistance.
                1. -4
                  28 March 2015 08: 41
                  Quote: Dagen
                  You have too much joy just from the fact that you are destroying the indigenous Arab population and seizing foreign lands, relying on external assistance.

                  I will not say anything about "destruction", Assad killed more Arabs in a year than Israel in all conflicts combined.
                  It turns out the Arabs are the indigenous people of Judea. And then who are the indigenous inhabitants of Arabia? wink

                  Quote: Dagen
                  Almost like APU. It’s not we who destroy Donetsk and Lugansk, it’s the militias themselves who fire at their cities!

                  1. Israel is the first to touch no one. They will not shell Israel; they will not sit in ruins. For example, Lebanon has not fired on Israel since 2006 and no one has bombed Beirut. Shelling will begin and the ruins will return to Beirut.
                  2. In LuganDonia there are "volunteers" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and everything is in ruins. In Nikolaev there is the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but there are no "volunteers" and there are no ruins ... request

                  Quote: Dagen
                  Quote: professor
                  Already posted the video.


                  Wrong. In the video, a land-based stationary complex.

                  Wrong. This exhibition model is not capable of knocking down either a mine, or a shell, or even anyone.
                  1. MMX
                    +7
                    28 March 2015 10: 11
                    In LuganDonia there are "militias" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and everything is in ruins. In Nikolaev there is the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but there are no "volunteers" and there are no ruins ...


                    Oh how! I didn’t think there was such a meeting.
                    Here, friends, is an example of a petty, simple manipulation. At the same time, the technique is completely universal and absolutely any side / country can be substituted into this "formula". For instance:
                    In World War II, the Germans destroyed Russian cities and killed their inhabitants. At this time, the German cities were in perfect order (no deaths or destruction). We substitute, in the formula proposed by this citizen, and we get:
                    "In Stalingrad there are Russians and Germans, and everything is in ruins. In Berlin there are Germans, but there are no Russians and there are no ruins ..."
                    And then you can make a simple conclusion: where there are Russians, there is destruction and death. The Germans during the WWII are good, the Russians are bad. Everything is simple.

                    The question arises: could good Germans have set up a Holocaust?
                    1. -8
                      28 March 2015 10: 17
                      Quote: MMX
                      Here, friends, an example of a petty simple manipulation.

                      Here are just no manipulations and distortions. In Nikolaev, more than half of the population is Russian. You won't find Ukrainian speech on the street, but you will meet the Armed Forces of Ukraine and you will not meet "militias". The "volunteers" will come and there will be ruins. This is an axiom.
                      1. MMX
                        +6
                        28 March 2015 11: 16
                        Here are just no manipulations and distortions. In Nikolaev, more than half of the population is Russian. You won't find Ukrainian speech on the street, but you will meet the Armed Forces of Ukraine and you will not meet "militias". The "volunteers" will come and there will be ruins. This is an axiom.


                        Manipulate and distort here only you, dear. I quoted your own words. What you have said is a long-known technique where you can substitute any side, and leave the essence of the problem behind the brackets.
                        Another example:
                        Where there are Germans and Jews, there is a Holocaust. Where there are Germans, but no Jews, there is no Holocaust either. Conclusion - Jews are the source of the Holocaust. This is an axiom.
                        So the essence of the reception is clearer ???
                      2. -2
                        28 March 2015 11: 56
                        Quote: MMX
                        So the essence of the reception is clearer ???

                        "Welcome" is not for me. I am stating a fact. In two regions of Ukraine, the overwhelming majority of the population is Russian or Russian-speaking. In both regions of the Armed Forces. In one of the areas "militias" of all stripes from all over the world. Attention is the question, which of the areas is in ruins? In which area are thousands of civilians killed? Where are the Russians, where is the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or where are the "volunteers"?
                      3. +3
                        28 March 2015 13: 24
                        Why did you bypass Crimea? Where the regular Russian army - in the Crimea - the situation is much better than in Ukraine.

                        And you are rightly talking about the ruins. In the LPR and DPR, the punitive forces of Ukraine are on foreign territory and of course they are not shy about turning foreign territories into ruins. Like Israel in the Gaza Strip.
                      4. -3
                        28 March 2015 13: 52
                        Quote: Dagen
                        And you are rightly talking about the ruins. In the LPR and DPR, the punitive forces of Ukraine are on foreign territory and of course they are not shy about turning foreign territories into ruins.

                        I looked again at the map. There is no LuganDonia on it. Ukraine is, Russia is, but LuganDonia is not. Even Russia did not recognize LuganDonia, so then finish trolling, and they will stop feeding unilaterally.
                      5. +3
                        28 March 2015 14: 13
                        Well, if you started about recognition, then Israel is surrounded by states for which Israel does not exist. Let's translate into your language: due to the emergence of the DPR and LPR, the front line has turned into ruins. And because of the appearance of Israel, Palestine is turning into ruins.

                        And do not show photos of cities, better show the ruins of Palestinian settlements, where later Israeli cities will appear. Or will not appear, because US decides to exchange Israel for warming with League of Arab States smile
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                      8. MMX
                        +5
                        28 March 2015 14: 11
                        "Welcome" is not for me.


                        Of course, it wasn’t invented by you, not to receive laurels for you.
                        And the fact that you use it is on your conscience. Everyone acts to the extent of his depravity.

                        I am stating a fact.


                        So I'm talking about the fact. There are Jews - there is a Holocaust. No Jews - no Holocaust. Everything is simple.

                        Attention is the question, which of the areas lies in ruins? In which region are thousands of dead civilians?


                        Where APU shells and bombs fall.
                      9. -1
                        28 March 2015 14: 15
                        Quote: MMX
                        Where APU shells and bombs fall.

                        In Nikolaev? No. There are no militias and the Nikolaev art academic works there Russian Drama theater and no devastation. It is a fact.
                      10. 0
                        28 March 2015 14: 26
                        Quote: professor
                        In Nikolaev? No. There are no militias and the Nikolaev Art Academic Russian Drama Theater is working there and there is no ruin. It is a fact.

                        And look this ...
                      11. -4
                        28 March 2015 14: 28
                        Quote: svp67
                        And look this ...

                        Well? RUSSIAN Art Academic Drama Theater in the very center of Nikolaev stopped its work? APU closed it?
                      12. +2
                        28 March 2015 14: 44
                        Quote: professor
                        Well? RUSSIAN art academic drama theater in the very center of the city of Nikolaev stopped its work? APU closed it?

                        And someone claimed that it had already been closed? Remind who?
                        Nikolaev is still a Russian city. But, already in it "they drink the blood of Russian babies" [center]
                        And do you think that after this, these children will go to watch performances in the "Russian Theater"?
                      13. -5
                        28 March 2015 15: 56
                        And someone claimed that it had already been closed? Remind who?

                        Punishers, fascists and the junta did not close RUSSIAN Art Academic Drama Theater in the very center of Nikolaev?
                      14. +3
                        29 March 2015 00: 31
                        Yes, I will tell you more than that: they still have not demolished their Motherland in Kiev. And not even Leninov. And the Russian An-225, built in a single copy for the transportation of Buran, is also in no hurry to destroy.
                      15. MMX
                        +3
                        28 March 2015 16: 23
                        In Nikolaev? No. There are no militias and the Nikolaev Art Academic Russian Drama Theater is working there and there is no ruin. It is a fact.


                        APU fired at Nikolaev? No. And the militias do not shell him. But if the militia occupies Nikolaev, then the APU will fire at him, including this theater.
                      16. -5
                        28 March 2015 19: 09
                        Quote: MMX
                        APU fired at Nikolaev? No. And the militias do not shell him. But if militias will take Nikolaev, then the APU will fire at him, including this theater.

                        That's it. "Will take over" and there will be grief, death and devastation and there will be no RUSSIAN art academic drama theater in the very center of the city of Nikolaev.
                      17. 0
                        29 March 2015 00: 34
                        No, you are mistaken (as usual). Will take - and there will be dozens of burnt people.

                        Only there will not be fights there, the Nikolaev Republic will simply appear with the center in Nikolaev, which will begin to fire at the APU. And shelling can destroy, and even not only the theater. They are not used to it.
                      18. +2
                        28 March 2015 15: 27
                        Quote: professor
                        "Welcome" is not for me. I am stating a fact.

                      19. 0
                        31 March 2015 13: 28
                        this is fiction
                  2. +1
                    28 March 2015 12: 02
                    Quote: professor
                    I will not say anything about "destruction", Assad killed more Arabs in a year than Israel in all conflicts combined.
                    It turns out the Arabs are the indigenous people of Judea. And then who are the indigenous inhabitants of Arabia?


                    Do you justify the Palestinian genocide by the fact that Syria is fighting against the rebels and ISIS, which the USA and Israel generously help?


                    Quote: professor
                    1. Israel is the first to touch no one.


                    This is when you did not touch anyone? When in the territory on which the Palestinians lived for centuries as part of the Ottoman Empire, did Israel, consisting of European immigrants, appear?


                    Quote: professor
                    Wrong. This exhibition model is not capable of knocking down either a mine, or a shell, or even anyone.


                    In total, this is a ground-based exhibition model, not capable of anything. Why then refer to the video?
                    1. -4
                      28 March 2015 12: 16
                      Quote: Dagen
                      You justify the genocide of the Palestinians

                      Teach materiel what genocide is.

                      Quote: Dagen
                      This is when you did not touch anyone? When in the territory on which the Palestinians lived for centuries as part of the Ottoman Empire, did Israel, consisting of European immigrants, appear?

                      Troll thickly. The first mention of "Palestinians" dates back to 1964. Before that, it was customary to call Jews "Palestinians". Palestine flag:


                      Quote: Dagen
                      In total, this is a ground-based exhibition model, not capable of anything. Why then refer to the video?

                      "Ground exhibition model, not capable of anything" is the one on the tank chassis.
                      1. +2
                        28 March 2015 13: 21
                        I always thought that genocide is the destruction of a nationality. Isn't this happening to the Arabs in Palestine now?

                        Thickly troll. Note, I do not distort the name of the state, as you do with the LPR. An article with this flag exists in a single copy and is replicated on many sites, while from 1920 to 1945 Palestine was part of the British Mandate, uniting a large number of territories and torn apart by internal contradictions. The flag for this mandate was different. Before the British Mandate, this territory was home to Arabs for hundreds of years and was part of the Ottoman Empire.

                        And yes, the first mention of the Palestinians refers to the Roman Empire.

                        The one on the tank chassis has been museum for 25 years. You won’t believe it, but Buran doesn’t fly now either, and stands lonely at the edge of the Ramenki airfield.
                      2. -3
                        28 March 2015 13: 49
                        Quote: Dagen
                        I always thought that genocide is the destruction of a nationality. Isn't this happening to the Arabs in Palestine now?

                        Exactly this. The real genocide.
                        Abu Mazen's wife is being treated in Israel

                        Daughter of Hamas leader in Gaza went to Tel Aviv for treatment after Gaza stopped shelling Israelis

                        Hamas leader’s granddaughter treated in Israel


                        Quote: Dagen
                        Note, I do not distort the name of the state, as you do with the LPR.

                        LPR states? I’ll look at the map where such a state is ... laughing

                        Quote: Dagen
                        Before the British Mandate, this territory was home to Arabs for hundreds of years and was part of the Ottoman Empire.

                        Yah? And where did the Arabs come from in Judea? wink

                        Quote: Dagen
                        And yes, the first mention of the Palestinians refers to the Roman Empire.

                        Bravo. The ice has broken. And who were they called Palestinians then? What did the Palestinian pound look like for example and what is it called now? wink

                        Quote: Dagen
                        The one on the tank chassis has been museum for 25 years. You won’t believe it, but Buran doesn’t fly now either, and stands lonely at the edge of the Ramenki airfield.

                        What did he know before becoming a museum? Let's get the materiel.
                      3. +3
                        28 March 2015 14: 07
                        Glad for you and them. But this is not an indulgence in the ongoing squeezing of Palestinian settlements.

                        The Arabs came from the same place where Crimea became Russian three hundred years ago. From the same place where modern Europe came from after the destruction of the Roman Empire. And from there, where did the state of Israel come from in Arab territory. That is, the capture and destruction of the current population.

                        You are not to me, but to the NGO that dealt with this machine. Only I'm afraid they won't tell you anything, just like the "iron beam" was shown only in pictures and said that they had carried out a bunch of tests. I do not dispute the existence of the ray, I fully admit that Israel succeeded in doing what was done long ago in the USSR.
                      4. -2
                        28 March 2015 14: 12
                        Quote: Dagen
                        But this is not an indulgence in the ongoing squeezing of Palestinian settlements.

                        The name of at least one such settlement in the studio.

                        Quote: Dagen
                        The Arabs came from the same place where Crimea became Russian three hundred years ago.

                        Where did the Arabs come from in Judea?

                        Quote: Dagen
                        You are not to me, but to the NGO that dealt with this machine. Only I'm afraid they won't tell you anything, just like the "iron beam" was shown only in pictures and said that they had carried out a bunch of tests. I do not dispute the existence of the ray, I fully admit that Israel succeeded in doing what was done long ago in the USSR.

                        On this and finish. The laser on the tank is a museum piece about which nothing is known (maybe he even shot down the Challenger ... laughing ), and the nautilus really intercepted shells and mines.
                      5. +2
                        28 March 2015 14: 40
                        What are the names? All settlement. The modern population of Palestine will not be able and can no longer exist within the territories that Israel generously allocated to them. In parallel, creating new settlements in the occupied zone and destroying the crops of Palestinian settlements.

                        Palestine was conquered by the Arabs of Byzantium; before that, the territory of Palestine passed between Persia (Sassanid Empire) and Byzantium.

                        Pff. In the USSR there were also ground systems (intercepting drones): https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=60720210 and https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=61789845

                        On the basis of the latter there was also a mobile complex, now you see finally even Israel has learned to do the same.
                      6. -6
                        28 March 2015 15: 54
                        All settlements.

                        All. I don’t feed anymore. hi
                      7. +3
                        28 March 2015 18: 01
                        Do not worry, not everything in the world is what you want. Have the courage not to come up with excuses, but to admit to yourself that the population of modern Israel considers this land to be their own and purposefully expels people alien to them with alien faith to them.
                      8. -2
                        28 March 2015 18: 56
                        that the population of modern Israel considers this land to be their own and purposefully expels from it a people alien to them with a faith alien to them.

                        Taki reservation!
                        Taki in Freud!
                      9. +1
                        28 March 2015 19: 04
                        I re-read it again. Where is the reservation?
                  3. +5
                    28 March 2015 14: 00
                    Quote: professor
                    In LuganDonia there are "militias" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and everything is in ruins. In Nikolaev there is the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but there are no "volunteers" and there are no ruins ...

                    Here I did not expect from you such a stupidity, I considered you always smart. Sorry, it seems to be wrong.
                    1. -6
                      28 March 2015 14: 02
                      Quote: svp67
                      Here I did not expect from you such a stupidity, I considered you always smart. Sorry, it seems to be wrong.

                      Enlightenment will come to you.
                      1. +3
                        28 March 2015 14: 07
                        Quote: professor
                        Enlightenment will come to you.

                        If at the expense of you - then ALREADY.
                        Here is Lviv a year ago. Everything was there - the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Security Service of Ukraine, the National Guard, the Patriots of Ukraine, were there not only "pro-Russian militants" and the SHO?


                        And if you already follow your logic, then these people here burned themselves the same. How many "green men" were there among them?
                      2. -4
                        28 March 2015 14: 17
                        Tell us about the "green men" who bought weapons in the "Voentorg" and then we will continue srach.
                      3. +4
                        28 March 2015 14: 25
                        Quote: professor
                        Tell us about the "green men" who bought weapons in the "Voentorg" and then we will continue srach.

                        Israel began its present history, the same began, in blood and ruins. And he was able to defend his freedom. But it is not worth saying that he could do it himself, without the support of influential countries, which was far from always open.
                        By the way, here is the city of Torez of the DPR, it has a militia, but there is no APU and it is close and the city LIVES a peaceful life, as much as possible in the front-line city
                      4. +2
                        28 March 2015 14: 45
                        Quote: professor
                        Tell us about the "green men" who bought weapons in the "Voentorg" and then we will continue srach.


                        Such little men appeared and saved thousands of lives. They didn’t appear in the DPR and LPR, now the Ukrainian army is arranging ruins there.
      2. +3
        27 March 2015 08: 32
        alas Professor! 90s did not allow to develop the topic))) now we just remember ..
      3. VAVAN
        +3
        27 March 2015 08: 36
        meaning from these lasers? when ordinary fog or smoke nullifies its characteristics, dear toy, it may take years to come up with when they come up with a powerful pocket battery ............ in the Soviet Union they offered to undermine a nuclear charge in a tube with optics, in a split second before the destruction of this tube, the optics managed to transfer the enormous energy of a nuclear explosion in the form of a laser, but then perestroika came and the program was turned off ........ although the idea is simple and real - (laser projectile) winked
        1. 0
          27 March 2015 10: 03
          Rather, the Americans worked in this direction to pump an X-ray laser. But the direction was, of course, a dead end. To bring down a rocket with such a laser, it was necessary to detonate a charge with a power of about 200 kilotons.
        2. 0
          27 March 2015 11: 59
          when normal fog or smoke negates its characteristics

          or aerosol cloud
      4. -2
        27 March 2015 08: 36
        And here he is, one in the photo. And as far as I know for a long time without entrails.
      5. +1
        27 March 2015 10: 44
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Good
        They just thought of this. Back in the 90s, we had a "COMPRESSION" complex that could realize several beams with different parameters at once!

        So where is he?

        laughing
      6. another
        +1
        27 March 2015 16: 34
        rotting in the suburbs
      7. another
        0
        27 March 2015 16: 34
        rotting in the suburbs
      8. Jet
        +2
        27 March 2015 19: 14
        but it doesn't matter, the main thing is to say everything "is not ours", so it is accepted here;)
      9. +2
        27 March 2015 23: 14
        Quote: professor
        So where is he?


        What are these weird questions? There he, in the photograph, also remained a toy. Only he became a toy long before the toy, which is described in the article, and long before the iron beam.
      10. 0
        28 March 2015 14: 13
        Well Jews ... An inquiring mind ...
      11. 0
        28 March 2015 16: 16
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Good
        They just thought of this. Back in the 90s, we had a "COMPRESSION" complex that could realize several beams with different parameters at once!

        So where is he?

        Lasers were replaced by rockets and turned Buratino.
      12. 0
        28 March 2015 16: 16
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Good
        They just thought of this. Back in the 90s, we had a "COMPRESSION" complex that could realize several beams with different parameters at once!

        So where is he?

        Lasers were replaced by rockets and turned Buratino.
    3. +6
      27 March 2015 09: 57
      Aren't you confused by the completely different purpose of the COMPRESSION and HEL Rheinmetall complexes? Compression was developed to disable the optoelectronic targeting systems of enemy weapons. And the 12 optical channels of the system made it possible to make the system multi-channel so that the enemy could not protect their optical systems with light filters of a certain range. This is the purpose of this unique complex.
    4. +1
      27 March 2015 20: 02
      What are you saying? Have you forgotten the engineer hyperboloid Garin? !!!!
      1. Jet
        0
        28 March 2015 09: 39
        what? everyone knows that Garin is a great domestic gunsmith, only money was given to him by the "damned American capitalist" Rowling
    5. +1
      27 March 2015 21: 25
      The project was closed. did not solve the issue of laser power supply.
      Now those. advancement in this area has stepped far ahead, and we have zero
    6. 0
      28 March 2015 18: 23
      while we have nothing further than Soviet developments
  2. +7
    27 March 2015 09: 35
    The HEL Boxer installation is capable of neutralizing modern air and asymmetric threats. It is notable for its excellent reconfiguration of the threat: from the disabling of optical-electronic systems on aircraft, knocking down UAVs, to neutralizing the ammunition of weapons systems without their destruction and neutralizing unexploded ordnance and clearing obstacles on the battlefield.

    Translated from politically correct Russian into Russian colloquial: "We've got a device here. We don't know what the heck is necessary. But the thing is generally very useful. And the coffee is boiling, and the floors are washed, and, if necessary, he can look after the children. True, for now. not very .... Well, you buy ... something cool .. "
    1. +1
      27 March 2015 10: 32
      In vain you are so, the thing is certainly not completed, but if you do not lie about 3 kilometers, then this is a breakthrough in the fight against light UAVs.
      Here's what is interesting, what does the laser feed from? If from the standard BTR electrical system, then the breakthrough is double.
      1. +4
        27 March 2015 10: 42
        In the fight against light UAVs, the main difficulty is the detection of this device. Because in terms of speed and reflective characteristics, the UAV is similar to a large bird. And here are 2 options: either to bring down all the ravens and pigeons in the area (which you agree is not humane), or somehow select the target (which is technically quite difficult)
        But shooting down a low-altitude, low-speed, weakly protected target by 3 km is no problem. Enough for this ZPU. Or a shell with remote detonation. And you see, this is cheaper and much more compact than fussing with a laser.
        1. 0
          27 March 2015 18: 21
          I agree to all 100, urgently need new means of detecting UAVs.
          ZPU for 3 kilometers is not enough. A projectile with remote detonation is also not a cheap thing, so the difficult question is which is more economical. I think with massive use, the laser will show itself. Both economically and in terms of a more versatile device.
      2. +2
        27 March 2015 10: 47
        Quote: tchoni
        Here's what is interesting, what does the laser feed from? If from the standard BTR electrical system, then the breakthrough is double.

        The laser efficiency is 25-30% (on average) of the supplied energy. The installation power of 50 kW then, in general, it is possible to be powered from the BTR engine. Just go while it does not work out.
        1. +1
          27 March 2015 11: 58
          Quote: tchoni
          Just go while it does not work out.

          There is most likely a generator in the kung.
  3. +1
    27 March 2015 14: 35
    good car turned out. we should by no means be left behind in this area!
  4. +2
    27 March 2015 15: 17
    Quote: GRAY
    Quote: tchoni
    Just go while it does not work out.

    There is most likely a generator in the kung.

    BTR has no KUNG. Like the M113. KUNG is only a car on the Tatra 8 * 8.
    And yet - can this shoot (emit) on the go this device?
    This is not in the article. IMHO - it cannot, because it cannot keep the beam on the target. And "Tunguska" can.
    So it turns out that there is mobility - but it cannot destroy air targets on the go, a range of 3000 m, but it cannot hit potential targets - armored personnel carriers and tanks. It seems like a good device - but it’s not clear where its place is on the battlefield ...
  5. AlexanderSS
    0
    27 March 2015 17: 25
    Well done of course, but I wonder what is being done in this direction ...
  6. 0
    27 March 2015 19: 06
    Quote: professor
    Quote: Good
    They just thought of this. Back in the 90s, we had a "COMPRESSION" complex that could realize several beams with different parameters at once!

    So where is he?

    For what purpose are you interested dear?
    1. -6
      27 March 2015 19: 09
      Quote: Good
      For what purpose are you interested dear?

      In order to familiarize yourself with not having analogues in the world. wink It is not clear that he could shoot down what characteristics there were, but the system was already located on a tank chassis. fellow
      1. +3
        27 March 2015 20: 26
        Professor, you are a wise guy, but the Palestinians are not fools, it’s enough to change the tactics of shelling, so they can shoot with a series of mines: solid blanks and combat, in the case when the Jews begin to use the Iron Ray. Here, the laser installation operators need to make sure that the ammunition is burned or destroyed even in the air and is not dangerous, and the blanks will not allow them to do this in a short period of time and quickly reorient the installation to the next mine. In addition, Arabs can use incendiary charges instead of blanks, Jews themselves will burn them in the air, and they will be burned out in the homes of your fellow tribesmen.
        1. -2
          27 March 2015 20: 37
          Quote: ivanovich
          Professor, you are smart, but the Palestinians are not fools,

          No, they are not fools, they are Palestinians. Thousands of rockets fired across Israel, Gaza in ruins, and in Israel one dead from these missiles. And what did they achieve?

          Quote: ivanovich
          it is enough for them to change the tactics of shelling, so they can shoot with a series of mines: solid blanks and combat, in the case when the Jews begin to use the Iron Ray.

          Unlike rockets, you need a barrel to fire a mine. Moreover, the barrel is not disposable. Let them shoot a "blank" (have you ever seen a blank mine?) And their position will be blown up by artillery.

          Quote: ivanovich
          In addition, Arabs can use incendiary charges instead of blanks, Jews themselves will burn them in the air and they will burn out in the houses of your fellow tribesmen, and maybe in yours too.

          1. It is necessary to speak not in "your", but in "your".
          2. The idea with lighters is complete ... I won’t even discuss it. negative
          1. +2
            27 March 2015 22: 58
            Quote: professor
            2. The idea with lighters is complete ... I won’t even discuss it. negative


            don’t discuss, we don’t care, lighters and ordinary mines will fall on your heads, and there will be no panacea and there will not be a single iron dome, the Jews will have to use nuclear weapons to permanently wipe the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth and thereby stop firing from there
          2. +3
            27 March 2015 23: 19
            Quote: professor
            Thousands of rockets launched across Israel, Gaza in ruins


            Almost like APU. It’s not we who destroy Donetsk and Lugansk, it’s the militias themselves who fire at their cities!
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      3. MMX
        +1
        27 March 2015 22: 06
        In order to familiarize yourself with not having analogues in the world.


        Are there any analogues? Give an example. Very interesting.

        It’s not clear what he could shoot down


        He did not have to shoot down. The purpose of the weapon was different.

        but the system has already been placed on a tank chassis.


        A solution that has no analogues in the world ...
        1. -2
          27 March 2015 22: 07
          Quote: MMX
          Are there any analogues? Give an example. Very interesting.

          Already posted the video.
          1. 0
            27 March 2015 23: 20
            Quote: professor
            Already posted the video.


            Wrong. In the video, a land-based stationary complex.
  7. +1
    27 March 2015 20: 33
    The car is quite interesting, but to put it mildly "raw". It makes no sense to use such installations against conventional mines and shells, but the machine, in theory, should fight very effectively with all sorts of high-precision wunderwaves and UAVs.
  8. +2
    27 March 2015 21: 12
    The efficiency of a diode-pumped laser is indeed higher than that of a lamp, and more than 20%. They, in order to avoid the effect of self-focusing, apparently, many subcritical rays are reduced to the target. Sophisticated and subtle mechanics and optics. At the training ground - it works, I have no doubt. And after the shelling?
    Neighbors are busy with laser settings - it hurts to look at them. So far, IMHO is not a weapon yet. But, the road will be mastered by the walking one. The Germans have always been distinguished by breakthrough engineering solutions. Maybe they really came up with something with adjustments and stability from external influences. And the Israelis quite often proved that they know how to make weapons, and that they work effectively. Anti-aircraft laser systems for ensuring the safety of the population are a good help to the Iron Dome. All the same, his rockets, if you do not reduce their cost, are quite expensive. And the laser pulse is just electricity. And the ground stations of such a defense should still be cheaper than mobile ones.
  9. 0
    27 March 2015 23: 00
    Insolent BLUFF!
  10. 0
    30 March 2015 07: 26
    Quote: professor
    Quote: ivanovich
    Professor, you are smart, but the Palestinians are not fools,

    No, they are not fools, they are Palestinians. Thousands of rockets fired across Israel, Gaza in ruins, and in Israel one dead from these missiles. And what did they achieve?
    disproportionate use of force on your face! where is it looking? winked
  11. +1
    30 March 2015 07: 29
    Quote: Dagen
    Quote: professor
    Thousands of rockets launched across Israel, Gaza in ruins


    Almost like APU. It’s not we who destroy Donetsk and Lugansk, it’s the militias themselves who fire at their cities!

    Got up. He fired at his house from the Grad. Finished off his wife from the SVD.
    Without taking her daughter from the kindergarten, he fired at her from BMD.
    He blew up the factory where he worked, and bombed the Bati mine,
    The airport from a mortar, overlaid with a salvo.
    Bedroom on conditioners, from its MANPADS,
    Neighbors and senior citizens did not flinch a hand.
    I got a Russian "BUK" from the basement that Putin gave
    Direct fire, the Malaysian Boeing shot down for lunch.
    Having crucified relatives in the alley quickly, prick and go went.
    With the DNR separatist, this is how a normal day went.
    Since that "disinformation" even my cat Sema, laughing at the corners.
    I want to ask Svidomo a question: "WHAT DO YOU SMOKE THERE, KHOKHLY?" (c) someone
  12. 0
    April 3 2015 14: 53
    The heavier the boxer the better!

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