Izumo helicopter carrier introduced into the fleet in Japan

Yesterday in Yokohama, a helicopter carrier (squadron destroyer-helicopter carrier) DDH 183 Izumo, which became the largest military ship built after the Second World War, was incorporated into the Naval Forces of self-defense in Yokohama. bmpd.

“Izumo is a ship of the 22DDH project and is a full-fledged anti-submarine helicopter carrier of aircraft-carrying architecture with a full displacement of 27 thousand tons (standard 19,5 thousand tons) and a length of 248 meters. The ship’s hangar has a length of 125 m with a width of 21 m and is equipped with two lifts, ”the blogger quotes technical characteristics.

The article states that the ship is capable of carrying up to 14-type helicopters of the Sikosrky SH-60 type and can receive Boeing Bell V-22 Osprey converters, which Japan plans to acquire in a short time.

At the same time, the Japanese military denied that "Izumo can be adapted for the base of Lockheed Martin F-35B carrier-based combat aircraft."


"The construction of two ships of the 22DDH project (24DDH) to replace the outdated squadron-bearing helicopter carriers of the Shirane type was authorized by the Japanese Ministry of Defense 23 on November 2009 g," the blogger writes. The lead ship was officially laid in January 2012 r, launched in the 2013. Its construction cost the treasury $ 1,5 billion.

After the solemn ceremony, the helicopter carrier proceeded to Yokosuka Naval Base.

The second ship of the same type (the project is designated as 24DDH), laid out in October of 2013, is scheduled to be handed over to 2017 in

Comments

[Decathlon]

The Japanese were lucky, they did not have Serdyukov ...!

[Kostyar]

Well, the target ..... !!!
Here the Chinese have fun when they drown this trough .....

[Archon]

Interesting, and for what minuses?

[PSih2097]

Quote: Archon

Interesting, and for what minuses?

for not knowing the materiel of a likely adversary, a light aircraft carrier is ...

[sds555]

A good ship, but it’s not clear, one was built over a year and the second four, there is no money

[insafufa]

Remind our cruisers PLO type Moscow

[Boa kaa]

Quote: insafufa

Remind our cruisers PLO type Moscow

If you remove the weapon that was placed on the tank and forecastle 1143, then it will not be Moscow (in / carrier t. Zhanna D "Ark), but a normal" Minsk ".
The excuses that the japanes are not going to place Penguins on it - for the gullible: they will strengthen the flight deck with heat-resistant tiles - and it will be normal "vertical" AVU. Believe me, they will come to this by the logic of the development of events.

[gjv]

RCC "Leningrad" in 1990

Quote: insafufa

Remind our cruisers PLO type Moscow

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

If you remove the weapon that was placed on the tank and forecastle 1143, then it will not be Moscow (in / carrier t. Zhanna D "Ark), but a normal" Minsk ".

In terms of displacement and configuration of the flight deck (without cantilever overhang), it is nevertheless really closer to pr. 1123 "Moscow", "Leningrad".
The Charles de Gaulle has a 195 m long flight deck, while Super Etander, Rafal and Hokai fly. What can we say about verticals, when they need them, the cunning Japanese will cram no less than helicopters.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Decathlon

The Japanese were lucky, they did not have Serdyukov ...!

To begin with, they did not have Gorbachev and Yeltsin.

Unfortunately, now we cannot build an AB or even a helicopter carrier on our own in an acceptable time frame. According to the most optimistic estimates, the Nevsky Design Bureau gave 5-6 years to build such a ship - but these calculations were made before the Nikolaev GTE and foreign diesel engines disappeared.

[Archon]

well ... there are enough specialists, but those that are not enough can be invited from abroad. there would be money, materials and a clear firm order - then an aircraft carrier can be built in a year. But is it necessary? all the same, we live in the future, we must use space more actively

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Archon

well ... there are enough specialists, but those that are not enough can be invited from abroad. there would be money, materials and a clear firm order - then an aircraft carrier can be built in a year

Yes, yes, yes ... a simple question - what kind of power plant will we take for an aircraft carrier? And on what GCC will we build it?

[Archon]

Technologies are created, bought and copied. Specialists are trained or invited. everything is possible, there would be resources, desire and a head with brains

[Archon]

why can the Chinese build an 15-story hotel in 30 days, and we stretch everything for years?

why do all our super-designs lie on the shelves and get permission for years, and when they get it, they’re not the very best, but at least to catch up with rivals?

[sancho]

I disagree! They were very unlucky with their "friends" - the Americos!
Since 1947, the Japanese have lost all their individuality and identity. Almost lost their culture. They became samurai, geisha of the Anglo-Saxons.
Despite all our wars with Japan, I think that it was a worthy opponent! Which could be respected. Only at us and at them people could sacrifice themselves in a war like that!
And, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, forgive Amer of this, can anyone ...?
Even little Vietnam didn’t break!

And, after 1947, the enemy was not even worthy of respect!

They are sorry ....

[jjj]

Russia's reciprocal step could be the deployment of "Bastions" and SAM on the islands of the Kuril ridge

[anakonda]

Quote: jjj

Russia's reciprocal step could be the deployment of "Bastions" and SAM on the islands of the Kuril ridge

You didn’t even carefully read the article — it’s an anti-submarine helicopter carrier, it’s unlikely to appear close to the Kuril ridge, its business is to sink submarines.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: anakonda

it’s an anti-submarine helicopter carrier, it is unlikely to appear close to the Kuril ridge, its business is to sink submarines.

Ships of this class are so good in that take away the helicopters, land the F-35B, set the appropriate tasks - get AVU.
I want to remind members of the forum that on the mortgage board of the aircraft carrier "Kiev" it was written "Anti-submarine cruiser with aircraft weapons ...". And when the Yak-38 was landed, it became a multipurpose aircraft carrier ship.

[Bombardier]

Quote: sancho

I disagree! They were very unlucky with their "friends" - the Americos!
Since 1947, the Japanese have lost all their individuality and identity. Almost lost their culture. They became samurai, geisha of the Anglo-Saxons.
Despite all our wars with Japan, I think that it was a worthy opponent! Which could be respected. Only at us and at them people could sacrifice themselves in a war like that!
And, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, forgive Amer of this, can anyone ...?
Even little Vietnam didn’t break!

And, after 1947, the enemy was not even worthy of respect!

They are sorry ....

In vain you regret so condescendingly, however much you bitterly cry later, carry out the educational process for 10-15 years and voila - the job is done! And the Japanese fleet of surface ships - we only have to lick oneself!

[Oladushkin]

I think this is not entirely true. Having lost in direct confrontation (by the way, without the USSR, the United States wouldn’t have burned out with Japan), the Japanese simply changed their tactics — they now conquer the United States through calculators, ledgers, business technologies, incorporating bushido (the way of the samurai) into the management of their megacorporations.

[Nayhas]

Quote: sancho

Since 1947, the Japanese have lost all their individuality and identity. Almost lost their culture. They became samurai, geisha of the Anglo-Saxons.

You do not spread your erotic fantasies to the Japanese. With originality and individuality, everything is more than normal with them; Russians can also give odds.

[sancho]

Quote: Nayhas

Quote: sancho

Since 1947, the Japanese have lost all their individuality and identity. Almost lost their culture. They became samurai, geisha of the Anglo-Saxons.

You do not spread your erotic fantasies to the Japanese. With originality and individuality, everything is more than normal with them; Russians can also give odds.

This is you, probably about this identity - the US naval and air bases in Okinawa, Kyushu, Yamaguchi, Tokyo ?!

And, their individuality and pride in Hiroshima and Nagasaki develops under the striped flag?!? Or isn’t it?

Something not very similar to national pride and the Bushido code, the last 60 years?!?!

Quote: Oladushkin

The Japanese simply changed their tactics — they are now conquering the United States through calculators, ledgers, business technologies, incorporating bushido (the way of the samurai) in the management of their megacorporations.

USA - conquer through calculators, ledgers, business technologies, sorry Chinese already!

And, in the management of their mega-corporations is no longer going to Bushido, but BIN TsZYA "School of Military Philosophy", "Military School" (Ch.)

Japan, at the moment it is just another non-sovereign puppet of the "striped". Very addicted to the money needle-geisha. Which, if rock the boat, can again get on NAGASaki or HEROshima.

[Greenwood]

Well, they said something stupid, admit ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: sancho

I disagree! They were very unlucky with their "friends" - the Americos!
Since 1947, the Japanese have lost all their individuality and identity. Almost lost their culture. They became samurai, geisha of the Anglo-Saxons.

Only outwardly. At the same time, Japan rose to the level of the first economy in Asia and in the 80s was the main economic opponent of the United States (fighting with us for the place of the main villains in Hollywood films).
Moreover, it was the Yankees who ensured a successful start for Japan: they needed a rear for the war in Korea and an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" in the Far East, but at the same time they did not need a strong Japan. So Japan got an American "umbrella", an opportunity to save on its own military budget, American investments and a "turn a blind eye" to the actual revival of the zaibatsu (the Yankee zaibatsu family "vertical of power" knocked out, but the debris quickly gathered into new corporations).

Quote: sancho

Despite all our wars with Japan, I think that it was a worthy opponent! Which could be respected. Only at us and at them people could sacrifice themselves in a war like that!

You only do not tell the Chinese about a "worthy opponent". And the Filipinos. And the Malays. In general, everyone who was "lucky" to get into shared prosperity.
Nanking. Rangoon. Singapore. Manila And finally, Detachment 731.

[Greenwood]

In fairness, it is worth saying that during the Russo-Japanese War, the Japanese treated the captured Russian sailors with respect, they were well fed and generally lived in Japan quite well for prisoners.

[RIDIK]

So I want to say "BEAUTIFUL", but you understand that it is not ours and sadness

[Hellbringer]

Do not forget that Medvedev was standing above Serdyukov (in the Mistral case).

[company]

You have designated two links of not a short, not a simple chain.
Sincerely.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Hellbringer

Do not forget that Medvedev was standing above Serdyukov (in the Mistral case).

and who was standing over them? if you don’t tell, or we’ll scream again - we’re a good king, but the boyars ... don’t shake INTERNET, without Putin there would be no appointment of a stool ...

[222222]

Helicopter carrier Izumo was added to the Japanese fleet "
Pearl Harbor 2? When??

[PSih2097]

Quote: 222222

Helicopter carrier Izumo was added to the Japanese fleet "
Pearl Harbor 2? When??

I’m afraid it will be not in Hawaii, but in Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands ...

[Mareman Vasilich]

No, it is the Anglo-Saxons have become generous, allowed.

[MBA78]

if you consider that their continent can go under water ... then such a ship is really needed

[Rustam]

Decathlon RU Today, 10:45 AM New
The Japanese were lucky, they did not have Serdyukov ...!

A good slogan, and now in more detail what does Serdyukov, UDC and Japan have to do with it! I look forward to a clear answer

[Skif83]

Serdyukov was not, and the helicopter carrier was laid including and taking into account the taberetkin, and his pernicious role in the army! Because its main goal is Russia!

[Rustam]

Skif83 (2) SU Today, 13:12 PM ↑ New
Serdyukov was not, and the helicopter carrier was laid including and taking into account the taberetkin, and his pernicious role in the army! Because its main goal is Russia!

Once again and clearly please

and the helicopter carrier was laid including and taking into account the taberetkin

more details

and his pernicious role in the army! Because its main goal is Russia!

here too

[PSih2097]

Quote: Rustam

Can't read between the lines?

[Rustam]

PSih2097 (2) SU Today, 19:29
Can't read between the lines?

Of course we can just not bullshit but sane sentences with specifics

[Aleksandr12]

We ought to help them with this. Serdyukov will not be jailed anyway (during our lifetime, for sure), to undergo plastic surgery under a Japanese man and launch an MO into theirs (or whatever it is called). Let it hurt them there, he does not know how to work differently, maybe such a "benefit" from him will

[Rustam]

Let them harm there, he doesn’t know how to work differently

Sporny who harms how

[saag]

destroyer-helicopter carrier, in which case the aircraft carrier and displacement are not very large

[boa constrictor]

The main thing is to press more, and lower, then - deeper !! If two - yes in a bunch - you can make a good island !!

[Nayhas]

Quote: saag

destroyer-helicopter carrier, in which case the aircraft carrier and displacement are not very large

Displacement is clearly underestimated.

[holgert]

.... I also think that it is underestimated !!!! Explicitly 35-49000t minimum !!!!

[Samaritan]

Congratulations, well done!

[Figvam]

"the larger the body, the louder it falls"

[Stiletto]

Wow, Yokosuka! And we are silent about the Mistral, neither ships, nor money for them ... Pichalko.

[Alexey RA]

Yesterday, in Yokohama, in a solemn atmosphere, a helicopter carrier was introduced into the Naval Self-Defense Forces (destroyer-helicopter carrier) DDH 183 Izumo

Features of the national classification.

If the Japanese qualify for a classic AB, then they will obviously have it as some kind of DDA - an aircraft carrier destroyer.

[yehat]

or a police patrol ship ...

[September]

That's right, the army is not!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Alexey RA

Features of the national classification.

According to the results of 2MB, they are forbidden to have an aircraft, fleet. Then the concessions went. Self-defense forces began to be built. But heavy ships - you can’t ... That's why they call it destroyer-destroyer ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

According to the results of 2MB, they are forbidden to have an aircraft, fleet. Then the concessions went. Self-defense forces began to be built. But heavy ships - you can’t ... That's why they call it destroyer-destroyer ...

Article 9. Sincerely striving for international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever reject war as the sovereign right of the nation, as well as the threat or use of armed force as a means of resolving international disputes.
2. To achieve the goal indicated in the previous paragraph, land, sea and air forces, as well as other means of war, will never be created in the future. The right to a state of war is not recognized.

The Japanese, having received such a constitution, bowed - and began to strictly observe a letter the law.
You can’t land, sea and air forces? Hi! So there will be Self-Defense Forces.
Can't ships rank higher than the destroyer? Hi! Then Japan will have oh-oh-really big destroyers.

[boa constrictor]

And - to Pearl Harbor !! Exactly - will come to them - Komuto Herovato !! Will come back from China !!

[Greenwood]

China has never won a warrior, especially from Japan, do not have illusions. And even on the sea at China there is no chance at all with its antediluvian vessels against ultra-modern Japanese ships.

[Joro]

"Destroyer helicopter carrier"? Why are you guys so modest? It should have been called a helicopter-carrying boat.

[Stirbjorn]

A helicopter carrier is an offensive weapon, and the Japanese are forbidden to have offensive weapons, so you have to shaman with the names)

[ava09]

They threw money away, again the Anglo-Saxons were not taught good. It’s useless to butt them with even a hundred aircraft carriers, neither with Russia nor with China.

[avt]

Quote: ava09

They threw money away, again the Anglo-Saxons were not taught good. With at least one hundred aircraft carriers, it is useless to butt off either Russia or China

With this approach, in the war of 1904-1905, the "macaques", "koekakam" urapatriots have already once piled on the floor of Sakhalin and the Kuril ridge, and before that to the Chinese. So do not forget that they took Port Arthur twice - first from the Chinese , then at sea, too, it was in the same sequence. You can piss over them as you want on the Internet, BUT - they ALREADY have an aircraft-carrying ship for 27000 afloat, and from the Far Eastern factories they just can't do anything but water roll out two corvettes for 2000 tons from the boathouse. These are the laughs, however.

[ava09]

Anyone can write nonsense, but it is more difficult to realize the event ... The war with Japan was lost by politicians, not by the army. The Japs were already squealing from the impossibility of continuing the war, when Nikolashka simply "leaked" it.

[avt]

Quote: ava09

.. The war with Japan was lost by politicians, not by the army. The Japs were already squealing from the impossibility of continuing the war, when Nikolashka simply "leaked" it.

Nah! Well, this is concrete nonsense! Well, just like Saddam Hussein, defeated in Kuwait, who declared all this "the mother of all victories" Who and where "squealed" then? "Have seen enough of the pirates of the Caribbean and the drowned fleet had to surface and" smash "? Two or three successful skirmishes under the leadership of Linevich is the way to victory? And what about the really broken armies in Manjuria? In general, if you really bothered to print a profound

Quote: ava09

Everyone can write nonsense, but it is more difficult to realize the event ...

so before it would be better to get acquainted with who and how financed both sides and draw conclusions why the same Angles and Amers decided to stop. And then get up in the pose of wise knowledge.

[Joro]

Quote: avt

Nah! Well, this is specific nonsense! Well, just like Saddam Hussein, defeated in Kuwait, who declared all this, the mother of all victories, "Who and where" squealed "then? “Have we seen enough of the pirates of the Caribbean and the drowned fleet had to emerge and“ smash ”? Two or three successful skirmishes under the leadership of Linevich is the way to victory? Nikolashka, "leaked"? And what about the really defeated armies in Manjuria? In general, if you really bothered to print a profound

He is right. Politics lost the war with Japan. Having complete superiority in forces, means and technologies. The Japanese themselves recognize this.

[Greenwood]

No matter how, the result is important. Moreover, I am not sure of the current Russian politicians either.
As for China, its larger groups were quite successfully smashed by small Japanese forces, which is an indicator of the real combat effectiveness of the Chinese.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: ava09

Everyone can write nonsense, but it’s more difficult to realize the event ... Politicians, not the army, lost the war with Japan.

The war with Japan was lost by the economy.

... on the eve of the war with Japan, there were 321 rounds of bullets missing.
The military department also resorted to orders of cartridges abroad. In 1905, 200 million cartridges were ordered in Vienna (1905 million arrived in 58,1 and 1906 million in 142), 260 million were received by the German Society (1905 million arrived in 41 and in 1906 198,3 million) and in Budapest 100 million (1905 million were received in 40 and 1906 million in 65). Thus, the bulk of orders came after the war ended.

Factories coped with the production of shells peacetime. The war with Japan led to increased demand.
In total, 1276 76 mm field guns took part in the battles, 918 thousand rounds were spent during the war. The shells produced at Russian factories were not enough, so I had to resort to procurement from abroad, which was spent 57 million rubles.

The Siberian and Sino-Eastern roads were not fully prepared for military transport, and the Circum-Baikal and Amur roads were still not ready, providing traffic along Russian territory itself.
Very few trips were arranged on these lines, as a result of which train traffic was delayed for a long time. As a result no more than 8-10 pairs of trains per day could be transported along the Siberian road. This limited the ability to quickly concentrate troops in the Far East.
The war with Japan required enormous stress not only on the railways of Siberia, but the Center’s railways, which gave a significant part of their rolling stock to the Siberian Railway. The weakening of railways in Central Russia greatly worried the General Staff, which did not exclude the possibility of complications with Germany during the war with Japan. The heaviest load of military traffic fell on the Siberian road. By November 15, 1905, 1 soldiers and officers, 294 horses, 566 guns, 230 freight vehicles were sent to the theater of war. And all this was not enough. The outcome of the war could be different with a higher carrying capacity of the Siberian Railway - This conclusion was reached by a special commission, headed by engineer-general N. Petrov, who studied the state of railways in Russia in 1907-1909.

[Bombardier]

I do not think that the Japanese government plans to deal with Russia or China. But they can stand up for their own (as they believe), and the fleet has enough for these purposes. Money down the drain is ridiculous words, here it means not the wind, but the Japanese mean the wind.

[ava09]

Prob

Quote: Bombardier

I do not think that the Japanese government plans to deal with Russia or China. But they can stand up for their own (as they believe), and the fleet has enough for these purposes. Money down the drain is ridiculous words, here it means not the wind, but the Japanese mean the wind.

The problem is that they confuse others with their own ... And yet, everyone can laugh, but not everyone can not be funny ...

[Bombardier]

Quote: ava09

1. The problem is that they confuse others with their own ... 2. And yet, everyone can laugh, but not everyone can not be funny ...

I do not argue with the first sentence ... How does it relate to our dialogue?

The second sentence is confused written .. but I'm not talking about that, again, how does it relate to our dialogue?
But in other matters, it’s boring - I’m leaving the dialogue .... Excuse me!

[Kent0001]

I agree. I wonder how many heavy anti-ship missiles (for example ours) are needed so that it is guaranteed to go down, and how is it with the air defense system if that?

[September]

A lot of.

He will not go alone.

[Evil Pole]

Good steamer. I envy the Japs for good but nothing, we’ll catch up

[Bombardier]

Beautiful, devil! And the price is not small: Its construction cost the treasury $ 1,5 billion.

[Professor]

Quote: Bombardier

And the price is not small: Its construction cost the treasury $ 1,5 billion.

For such a price and even Japanese quality ... well, it sucks.

[Bombardier]

Quote: professor

Quote: Bombardier

And the price is not small: Its construction cost the treasury $ 1,5 billion.

For such a price and even Japanese quality ... well, it sucks.

Your humor, with claims to tolling, is not clear! The ship is good and the price is good, what's wrong with my message?

[Professor]

Quote: Bombardier

Your humor, with claims to tolling, is not clear! The ship is good and the price is good, what's wrong with my message?

There is not much $ 55 thousand per ton of the new warship, the Indians laid out more for the repair of the old ship. Japanese-made weapons are always expensive, they have tanks at $ 11 million apiece. They can afford it.

[Bombardier]

Quote: professor

Quote: Bombardier

Your humor, with claims to tolling, is not clear! The ship is good and the price is good, what's wrong with my message?

There is not much $ 55 thousand per ton of the new warship, the Indians laid out more for the repair of the old ship. Japanese-made weapons are always expensive, they have tanks at $ 11 million apiece. They can afford it.

Well, you can normally present the information! Why a troll?

[September]

Humor is a serious sign of intelligence.

But not always!

[Hell's Angel]

Sarcasm professor ... Not all "we will break them" here, some perceive everything normally. Read the comments. The ship is certainly good and the Japanese quality is known to many. The combat capabilities of this ship are also at the level without a doubt. And our shipbuilders can only envy. And there is something to strive for.

[kapitan281271]

Yeah, they already laughed at them so much, how we know how it ended, we need to work and not grind in tongues at state councils

[Good cat]

(destroyer-helicopter carrier) is how ????

[avt]

Quote: Good cat

(destroyer-helicopter carrier) is how ????

As well as an aircraft-carrying cruiser.

[gjv]

Quote: Good cat

(destroyer-helicopter carrier) is how ????

Haruka Ned, a frigate-sized cell phone

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Good cat

(destroyer-helicopter carrier) is how ????

Around the same as full deck control cruiser.
Their lordships in the 70s under this name were dragged through the Laborites, who fell into a rage at the word "aircraft carrier", three "Invincibles."

[Arktidianets]

The Japanese are preparing hard for the landing operations, the commissioning of Izumo is proof of this.

[prabiz]

Good, this is not a frog Mistral!

[donavi49]

Than? He has only helicopter landing capabilities. There is no camera dock. Unloading equipment and machinery can only be in the equipped port.

It must be equated with Cavour. That one is also 27k - only with a springboard and Harriers.

Cavour only:
There are already airplanes and in the future there will be F-35.
The same opportunities for transporting troops in overload with equipment.
There is a convenient aft gangway for unloading on the pier (Izumo has a lateral one, smaller in size and with the requirements of a long pier).
There is an Aster 15.

Izumo:
Unlike the Hyuuga, they threw out all the weapons, leaving 2 Fanags and 2 block ROME-116. The same weapon can be put on the Mistral, for example.
Abandoned the feed gangway.
On the plus side there is a large hangar with excellent conditions, a spacious deck on 5 platforms + PSS. Good, even redundant electronic equipment.

[Rustam]

prabiz SU Today, 11:03 AM
Good, it's not a frog Mistral

Why is he a good expert? At a price of 1,5 lard and even without a camera dock?

Yes, the expert, the frog mistral (which the USC only dreams of, because it is not able to build it in such a time) is 3 times cheaper and has more options

[Koresh282]

beautiful what

[rotmistr60]

Another combat unit for the so-called Self-defense forces that surpass the armies of some countries. The United States, Japan, and South Korea are shouting that the DPRK is a threat in this region. Nothing like this. The United States and Japan are a true source of threat. Japan still modestly calls the well-equipped Armed Forces Self-Defense Forces.

[Kornilovets]

When will they start building as fast ...

[mark_V]

Well, I can't understand - why do they need an "expensive barge"? It is understandable for the Americans - to show vassals around the world "support and protection" - to scare, that is. And those who want to fight the world again? New Pearl Harbor?

[MSL]

There is little hope for a new Pearl Harbor, but for a new Tsushima or Port Arthur .....

[gjv]

Quote: mark_V

Well, I can't understand - why do they need an "expensive barge"? ... that they want to fight the world again? New Pearl Harbor?

The new ship of the Japanese Navy under the name Izumo has a deck and is almost the same size as the Sekaku and Dzuikaku aircraft carriers that took part in the attack on the Pearl Harbor base of the US Navy in 1941, but the government insists that it is not an aircraft carrier reports ajw.asahi.com 7 January.
With a length of about 250 m and a standard displacement of 19500 tons, Izumo is the largest ship in the Japanese Navy. On its deck, 9 helicopters can simultaneously land. However, the Ministry of Defense and the Navy command insist that this ship, launched last summer, is "just a destroyercapable of transporting helicopters. " The media in China and South Korea said that this "semi-carrier" is evidence of a roll to the right of Japanese foreign policy.
Shinichi Kiyotani, a war journalist, said that “in accordance with the international standards of this class of ships, Izumo is an aircraft carrier. The government is afraid to recognize this fact, as it fears political consequences. ”

Preparing for landing. When they no longer fear political consequences. They are on a small island, squinting at the whole world, in all directions. Not necessarily - Pearl Harbor.

[Hell's Angel]

More likely Kunashir or Iturup.

[tomket]

f-35 planted, here you have the aircraft carrier.

[Altona]

What strikes me in Japan is that despite the flashy high cost of labor in their country, the Japanese want to do many things themselves, even though they have refrigerators at the price of our VAZs ...

[Greenwood]

They have appropriate salaries, we only have to lick oneself.

[Professor]

At the same time, the Japanese military denied that "Izumo can be adapted for the base of Lockheed Martin F-35B carrier-based combat aircraft."

And what can prevent this?

[shuhartred]

Quote: professor

At the same time, the Japanese military denied that "Izumo can be adapted for the base of Lockheed Martin F-35B carrier-based combat aircraft."

And what can prevent this?

This should be asked by the Japanese military. Somewhere they wrote that their deck was not designed for the F-35. I don’t know whether or not.

[Professor]

Quote: shuhartred

This should be asked by the Japanese military. Somewhere they wrote that their deck is not designed under the F-35. I don’t know whether or not.

F-35 weighs a maximum of 27.2 tons, a tiltrotor 27.4 tons. Special heat-resistant coating of the deck and the aircraft carrier is obtained.

[Victor-M]

We are looking forward to the second Pearl Harbor.

[rotmistr60]

Which Pearl Harbor? The Japanese forgot who dropped two atomic bombs on them (except for the elderly), American bases on their territory. And you are waiting for something illusory. Well wait.

[Victor-M]

Quote: rotmistr60

Which Pearl Harbor? The Japanese forgot who dropped two atomic bombs on them

That's why we are waiting.

[major124]

Not our Mistral for an hour?

[Bombardier]

This stain will ...

[seregatara1969]

Sikosrky SH-60 strange helicopter some

[tchoni]

Very beautiful ship. Simplicity, beauty and nothing more. Very japanese

[equal]

Quote: Nayhas

Quote: sancho

Since 1947, the Japanese have lost all their individuality and identity. Almost lost their culture. They became samurai, geisha of the Anglo-Saxons.

You do not spread your erotic fantasies to the Japanese. With originality and individuality, everything is more than normal with them; Russians can also give odds.

This is we Ykosakam, give the odds!

[manguest]

Are they going to land on the Kuril Islands?

[donavi49]

Well, this will not land on the Kuril Islands, there they will not build Piers of such 50 years, where it would be possible to attach Izuma to unload the equipment.

Helicopter assaults, however, and without Izuma, there is someone to throw out. With massaging 50 + helicopters per wave. Another 5 + helicopters in the wave of the weather will not do.

Now it is something like a KUG anti-submarine core. In the future, the VTOL aircraft carrier will be.

[Aasdem]

(destroyer-helicopter carrier) is how ????

and this is the same as in the USSR the PLO-class cruisers of the "Moscow" class grew into the "Kiev" class cruisers, and then into the TAVKR "Admiral of the USSR Fleet Kuznetsov".
They started with destroyers where there was no longer 1 helicopter, but 3, and now the Izumo appeared.
Nice ship!

[denni]

Izumo hint at the Tsushima battle ???

[ICT]

yes just continuity

[MolGro]

good ship sharpened purely for helicopters!
only it will have to be guarded by the weak air defense and the PKR seems not to be!

[Wolka]

Japan is arming again, why would it?

[kelevra]

It's time for us to squeeze the paddling pools with these black Mistralai!

[Rustam]

kelevra (4) SU Today
It's time for us to squeeze the paddling pools with these black Mistralai!

Is it time? or demand a dough and build 15 Grens, how do experts say?

[Greenwood]

Eh, it was necessary to order such ships, and not the wretched Mistral ... And by the way, unlike the French, I'm sure the Japanese would have completed the contract on time without a hitch. These are not corrupt French.

[Rustam]

Greenwood SU Today, 13:13

Eh, it was necessary to order such ships, and not the wretched Mistrals

Who to order from? in Japan - yes it is strongly said - in a dream

the Japanese would fulfill the contract on time without a hitch

They would not even consider such an opportunity, at one time they strongly pressed Paris to refuse us

so don’t bring nonsense and learn the materiel

[Greenwood]

I did not consider the political side of the issue in this case. Moreover, what difference does it make to order from France, which is in NATO and under America, or in Japan, which is also an ally of America ...
About technical characteristics in the course.

[shark]

And I liked the ship. A sensible box. In peacetime, for the demonstration of the pennant and the scuffling of submarines, the partners are the very thing. In a war, I think, it does not take long. In this regard, I like our "Moscow" and "Leningrad", which, unfortunately, no longer exist.

[IAlex]

Well done yapi, everything goes according to plan. Aircraft carriers are already being produced, flight tests of the ATD-X began at the beginning of this year, and by the time they build the next aircraft carrier, they will equip this aircraft with their own aircraft ...

Well, for the time being we will talk about our intention to tell until 2030 ...

[Prager]

we now need to build ships of this class as opposed to the Japanese.

[fa2998]

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destroyer-helicopter carrier, in which case the aircraft carrier and displacement are not very large

And this is the destroyer! He is the record holder for displacement among destroyers! The Japanese were forbidden to build an offensive weapon, so they built a light aircraft carrier (can easily take a couple of Harrier or F-35 squadrons) and called it a destroyer. It was better called a patrol boat (for conspiracy)

[gammipapa]

The Japanese, as a war, are very worthy, and the equipment is just aerobatics, you need to be friends with him, and not to fight.

[monster]

Yamato always had beautiful ships.