How we looked for lost polymers

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Sanctions, crisis, we all die, I cut Khan, Carthage (in the sense, the Kremlin) must be destroyed, Russia cannot survive - you hear it every single day. Well, someone believes, someone doesn't. However, if a person is told every day that he is a donkey, then in years through 20 it will be as pretty as he gallops. Checked by Ukraine.

Somehow, driving along the roads of our area, we came across a zone. Not the one with the towers and prisoners, and industrial. To be honest, we saw her a year ago, and then she didn’t look optimistic. A bunch of construction sites.

After a year, everything changed a little. In general, if you believe some of the media, then our industry is a complete fur animal. Except tanks and there is nothing airplanes, and if that is, then not comme il faut.

Communists and old people in our city are still sighing about what we will sow and thresh in terms of sanctions and crisis. Say, there were two factories for the whole Union, the Rostov and Voronezh Selmashs, they all sold and plundered. Voronezhselmash was standing in the very center of the city, and now the old buildings are really demolishing. Yearning...

But we kind of found it.


The day was a day off, because there was no one in particular.




And this is Siemens for Selmash. Looks more modest.


This is the plant for the production of optical cable "Svyazstroy". Already working. This can be seen in the coils.





These are three in one (the third part after the first two are not visible): a plant for the production of metal from ordinary steel grades for the construction industry and from alloyed steels for mechanical engineering (with a capacity of 300 thousand tons per year), a plant for the production of steel structures and a metal profile production plant and tiles.

Voronezh region does not possess deposits of iron ore. We were surprised, but knowledgeable people said that it would all work on scrap metal.


At first we thought it was such a mini-elevator. Almost guessed. This is a specialized logistics complex for seed products and plant protection products.


Another agricultural warehouse. The roof did not go, the architect Kuzu's father built.


Furniture factory. Well, it will do.


Elevator. New. In general, three years in the field of shortage of these gizmos. Harvest hoo th.

Here is a "field of miracles." In general, four more complexes are being built there, but it’s too early to talk about them.

And now fast forward a little south. Almost on the border with Ukraine. In Kantemirovsky district. There, last year launched a miracle complex. And this year one good man was there to visit, and despite the ban, he slightly clicked the phone. And shared.

The complex is designed for 5 000 cows. With all the infrastructure and farmland for grazing and growing fodder. And no worse than in Holland or France. Although it is located ... far from civilization.


This is not ATGM went to Ukraine. These shitty sow grass and fertilize it. The tractor in the wet black soil is not very, and these - just right.


Milking carousel. Manually only put on the tube. The rest is automatic. Each cow in the ear chip, so that the system knows who milks and how much at the exit. Draws charts and issues recommendations.


Life with relative amenities. Front food, rear - convenience. Also, everything is automatically deleted. There are no windows, fresh air is provided. Well, or not to relax.




Nursery garden. Also in the open air, only in such houses here. Six months in a manger, then in the field.


Here he is, a reindeer. Maybe the joke was, and maybe not. Said that deer. Looks like ...

I do not know how anyone, but my opinion - not all of us are so bad as they try to tell us. Hope it will be better. Maybe not quite simple and easy, but it will be. As always, historically. Much was, of course, about it, but nothing. And the cows will grow, and the plants will be completed, and the polymers will be there. Russia in ancient times, too, was not immediately formed. And what we have already experienced in our stories - count, start again. So calmly descend from the mountain, calmly swim across the river ...

We will have everything. It's a question of time.
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  1. +42
    26 March 2015 05: 00
    Roman FOTKI is good and impressive .... only I have a question, who are the real owners of these plants? ... how often does the director get appointed from the outside and the real profit goes somewhere to the Anglo-Saxon bank and settles in the budget of their countries.
    1. +30
      26 March 2015 05: 11
      I fully support the opinion. My sister lives in Sands. She talked about how Moscow dealers bought a flour mill, what kind of policy they are pursuing .... Everything is bought up by visitors on the ground. There are few advantages for the local population. Profit goes in an unknown direction ...
      1. +56
        26 March 2015 05: 24
        Business is business, here other people's money and where they go do not need to be considered.

        It's important that:
        1. The company was built at its own expense.
        2. The population is paid salaries.
        3. Taxes are paid to the state.

        And what they do with the profits is already their business, but usually investors are building something in those countries in which they have mastered.
        1. +9
          26 March 2015 05: 40
          Business is business, here other people's money and where they go do not need to be considered.


          Your words to the ears of the guys from WASHINGTON, POLAND, ENGLAND and then sticking sticks to our business wherever they can.

          Read on the internet how the Poles clamp our business at home ... this is heaven and earth compared to RUSSIA.
          1. +28
            26 March 2015 06: 20
            In the construction of individual private small enterprises, industrialization and modernization of Russia will not be carried out.

            This requires political will and financial influence of the state.

            To hide state savings not in a hill overseas in foreign banks and papers at a scanty percent, but to invest in the Russian economy, industry, agriculture, and infrastructure.
            Everywhere, and not only in the Voronezh region, to plan and massively, as in the 30s of the last century, to revive large collective agricultural enterprises, factories and factories.
            But this has not yet been observed, as before, the authorities tryndit about the desirability of an investor, better than a foreign one, forgetting that there are few who want to invest in a state that itself takes its capital abroad.
            1. +11
              26 March 2015 10: 03
              Quote: vladimirZ
              In the construction of individual private small enterprises, industrialization and modernization of Russia will not be carried out.

              This requires political will and financial influence of the state.
              To hide state savings not in a hill overseas in foreign banks and papers at a scanty percent, but to invest in the Russian economy, industry, agriculture, and infrastructure.


              Already passed.

              As soon as you start telling investors where to invest and how to manage profits, there will be no factories or cows

              Small and medium-sized businesses - the basis of the welfare and development of the country

              State care - infrastructure and business conditions


              1. +2
                26 March 2015 16: 12
                Quote: bulvas
                As soon as you start telling investors where to invest and how to manage profits, there will be no factories or cows

                The experience of Belarus shows something else.
                1. +2
                  26 March 2015 18: 57
                  comparison of economies
                  1. +5
                    26 March 2015 22: 46
                    not a fact. go to the hinterland and ask grandfather how he lives in retirement
                    1. -1
                      28 March 2015 18: 32
                      ask the blacks what they live on. The average American, who has loans alone for 30 years. That’s what will come of it.
                2. +4
                  27 March 2015 17: 38
                  Quote from bulvas (2):
                  Already passed.
                  (In the sense of political will and financial influences of the state, and investments in the Russian economy, industry, agriculture, infrastructure.)

                  Yes, bulvas (2) passed, and the results were super surprising for the whole world: in just 10-20 years, Russia from a backward agrarian state turned into the second world industrial power in the world.
                  Socialist Russia with a centralized and planned economy defeated virtually the whole of fascist Europe, independently restored the cities and factories destroyed by the war, first went into space, created a nuclear shield that still protects us all, built hundreds of new cities and factories.

                  And what has capitalist liberal Russia achieved after 1990, in 25 years, with such a vaunted "private medium business" and liberal oligarchic capitalism?
                  - Destroyed industry, agriculture,
                  - a raw materials appendage of the West with complete product and industrial dependence on other countries,
                  - the mass of the unemployed and the poorest,
                  - a bunch of national smoldering conflicts,
                  - and the bleak prospect of being secondarily destroyed by dozens of states under pressure and the threat of war from the united, imperialistic Western world led by the United States against Russia, striving to capture Russia’s attractive natural resources.

                  So that you went through the history of your state at school, and not studied it. And evaluate it from the bell tower of your consumer illiterate egoism.
                  Alas, there are many of you, products of liberal capitalist ideology. The one, the dominant ideology, which seems to be under the Constitution, we should not have.
              2. 0
                26 March 2015 17: 36
                the state’s concern is that inflation shouldn’t eat profit,
                so that the private owner can defend his rights and that borrowed capital for the growth of production be at a sane price
              3. +1
                27 March 2015 12: 06
                Quote: bulvas
                Small and medium-sized businesses - the basis of the welfare and development of the country

                What are the countries where small and medium-sized businesses are the basis of wealth. Do not call Switzerland.
            2. -4
              26 March 2015 14: 56
              All this "trifle" is not fundamental for the development of the country.
              1. +3
                26 March 2015 17: 31
                But you are in vain ... hi
            3. +1
              26 March 2015 22: 43
              100 percent true. But .... they took it there, from there they took it at a percentage. , given with percent. Who pays? But all percent. pays the one who "WORKS AT ALMOST LOSSES ENTERPRISE", AT THIS OWNERS OF THESE "RAVEL" DO NOT HURRY TO SELL THEIR YACHTS. This is a business .... to give the amerikosy dough to borrow from them. Something tells about the TIME, despite the ostentatious patriotism.
            4. +1
              27 March 2015 11: 38
              ... and the money (profit) goes abroad! ...
              Yes, and the dog is with them, they go! Investors - British or African, it doesn't matter - have invested, and, of course, they want to "recapture" their money back, and with a profit; and one should not think that they need these profits to burn their lives in Hawaii or the Canary Islands (though not without it ... all the people ...) This is - as a rule! - business people, and this money will go to the construction of the same complex ... or two ... or ten ... If only the officials did not interfere, bribes would not be insolent! ...
        2. -2
          26 March 2015 14: 54
          It is important that not only goods go into the country, but also money is invested in defense. And the rest is not important.
        3. +6
          26 March 2015 16: 11
          Quote: Tetros
          1. The company was built at its own expense.
          2. The population is paid salaries.
          3. Taxes are paid to the state.
          4. They kill all local production (dumping) with low prices, and in the event of a crisis or sanctions it takes production abroad, leaving empty cases (which we are currently observing).
          You need to build your own, and not hope for investors. hi
          1. -1
            26 March 2015 23: 39
            An example of a motor is indicative.
        4. 0
          26 March 2015 16: 52
          And still produce products and go to the market!
        5. 0
          26 March 2015 17: 30
          It is also important that in the case of a big kipish, God forbid, of course ... all this will instantly fall into the right hands and will work only for the state and in heavy duty!
          1. Alf
            +1
            26 March 2015 19: 47
            Quote: igorka357
            It is also important that in the case of a big kipish, God forbid, of course ... all this will instantly fall into the right hands and will work only for the state and in heavy duty!

            Will not pass. In Russia, private property is inviolable. Recently there was a scandal with a pharmaceutical factory and what, did it pass into the right hands?
        6. 0
          28 March 2015 12: 34
          I do not agree about the profits and foreigners in our territory.
          1. The Directorate is a non-resident; it obeys, executes, corresponds, first of all, to the policy of its state. "If tomorrow is a war" these industries will stop and will not be able to continue working without foreign support.
          2. After "perestroika" and the destruction of Soviet production, a fairly large number of enterprises appeared on the territory of Russia, the owners of which are foreign companies, they are also managers. Some of these industries do not have a full cycle and, to one degree or another, depend on imported components, i.e. there is no 100% localization, in a "stressful" situation they will stand up for a simple one.
          3. Even if the production cycle is complete and it is located in Russia, the equipment used in such companies is 100% imported. foreign production. In the end, this again leads to dependence on imported supplies of spare parts. There are imported machine tools that require an annual renewal of software licenses, otherwise the equipment is blocked and we get a heap of expensive metal, again "if tomorrow is a war" ...
          4. Profit. This component affects all factors in production in general, as the products are sold in Russia, for rubles, and having a foreign owner (investor), profits, loans, costs, are always converted into foreign currency. Comments, hopefully redundant.
          5. Salaries are paid to the population ... they are reducing their staff in a twinkling of an eye, only profit (currency) is starting to decline, the past year is an example.
          6. Construction at your own expense, the only thing you can argue with especially, but only again, is the cost of construction in foreign currency, and this, in the end, affects the cost of the final product, although this is already an inevitable evil, because Russian production was deliberately destroyed during the years of "perestroika" and restoration still requires loans and equipment, which there is nowhere to take except abroad ...
          Here is such a gray picture. Of course, we are recovering, Putin is scurrying around as best he can. State policy should be built in the direction of the development of own production, independent of any foreign companies. The accession to the WTO greatly hinders development, as On import, I would put barrage duties on many positions in order to develop production in Russia. This is especially true for low-profit production, but there are regions where cities sit without work, and from this we could begin, so to speak, to adopt the Chinese experience.
      2. +22
        26 March 2015 05: 56
        Quote: Minus
        . Profit goes in an unknown direction ...

        Profit is leaving ..
        1. In the pocket of the one who built it all.
        2. On the development of the enterprise, otherwise it will not live long.
        3. Taxes go to where the commerce is registered.
        Quote: Minus
        There are few pluses for the local population

        For the local population, these are jobs, salaries.
        1. -3
          26 March 2015 06: 30
          In this case, there was a reduction in salaries and staff.
          1. +3
            26 March 2015 06: 59
            Quote: Minus
            In this case, there was a reduction in salaries and staff.

            What is the company called and where is it located specifically?
            1. +1
              26 March 2015 16: 13
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              What is the company called and where is it located specifically?

              Volga Automobile Plant.
        2. BMW
          +10
          26 March 2015 06: 53
          Quote: Alexander Romanov

          Profit is leaving ..
          1. In the pocket of the one who built it all.
          2. On the development of the enterprise, otherwise it will not live long.
          3. Taxes go to where the commerce is registered.
          For the local population, these are jobs, salaries.


          By your comment you can understand that you have never worked in production.
          1. Taxes are paid not where the production is located, but where the legal entity is registered.
          2. Salaries in the bulk consist of two parts: white and black. The exception of state employees and enterprises of a national scale.
          3. All enterprises with good and stable profits belong to Muscovites. And whoever tries to resist, either gets ruined or gives up the business (all or part) under the threat of life. We have many such examples.
          1. +5
            26 March 2015 06: 58
            Quote: bmw

            By your comment you can understand that you have never worked in production.

            Nope
            Quote: bmw
            1. Taxes are paid not where the production is located, but where the legal entity is registered.

            For especially smart, I repeat
            3. Taxes go to where the commerce is registered.
            Quote: bmw
            2. Salaries in the bulk consist of two parts: white and black.

            The time for gray salaries is running out, people began to think about their own pension. Your koment was late, by 5 years.
            Quote: bmw
            3. All enterprises with good and stable profit belong to Muscovites.

            Shaw really belay
            Quote: bmw
            . And whoever tries to resist, either gets ruined or gives up the business (all or part) under the threat of life

            Yes, they kill on the right and on the left, they threaten, they take them away. Here I am writing, they still shit, they ruin the country. Banshees need to be lustrated for such articles angry
            1. BMW
              +1
              26 March 2015 08: 10
              Quote: Alexander Romanov

              The time for gray salaries is running out, people began to think about their own pension. Your koment was late, by 5 years.


              Yes, you have pink glasses. Although it may, where you live - everyone thinks about retirement, apparently nobody thinks here. Pension reform is stalled now as never before. Who believes in her? I personally do not. With such reels from side to side !!!!! Even I don’t know anyone who would believe in her. And salaries, as were black, remained.

              Quote: Alexander Romanov


              Yes, they kill on the right and on the left, they threaten, they take them away. That's what I write, yet they shit, the country is destroyed in the bud.


              Our local oligarch won a tender for the construction of the central market, demolished the old one, began to build a new one, Muscovites came and took a part (I don’t know how many percent they won). For two months I tried not to go anywhere and was heavily guarded (I know for sure). Everything went quietly and did not appear anywhere, just one close "individual" turned out to be too chatty.
              1. +1
                26 March 2015 08: 30
                Who cares if the local oligarch holds the market or Maskovsky? the main thing is that cucumbers would be cheaper, right? A black salary, of course, is paid, but not as before: the minimum wage + the rest, but usually 50/50, 75/25, etc. nafig salary, if you do not take a worthwhile thing on credit?
                1. +2
                  26 March 2015 15: 07
                  What does CREDIT have to do with salary? The theme "to live in redit" from the evil one. What to boast about?
                2. +1
                  28 March 2015 15: 31
                  Quote: Saber
                  What difference does the local oligarch hold or Maskovsky? the main thing is that cucumbers are cheaper


                  Hyh. Maskovsky has more appetites, to hell with you, and not a cheap cucumber. It will cost the same, hopping and in the network of maskovskih shops, well, a little cheaper.
              2. +10
                26 March 2015 08: 51
                Quote: bmw
                Who believes in her? I personally do not.

                Negro problems, the sheriff doesn’t care.
                Quote: bmw
                And salaries, as were black, remained.

                Quote: bmw

                Our local oligarch won a tender to build a central market,

                For a bribe wink And then those who he threw and advised not to greet, arrived, I correctly understood what was written wink
              3. +5
                26 March 2015 08: 58
                Quote: bmw
                And salaries, as were black, remained.

                As far as I know, in almost all more or less large enterprises, the salary is white. We do not take office managers into account.
                1. +2
                  26 March 2015 23: 42
                  In Voronezh, in construction, the white-black ratio is 10-90. Do not like it - go fuck.
            2. +7
              26 March 2015 09: 18
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              . Banshee so vosche lustrate for such articles


              Someone on Ukrosaytah overstated. Come on, lustrator ... I'll show you.
            3. 0
              26 March 2015 09: 52
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The time for gray salaries is running out, people began to think about their own pension. Your koment was late, by 5 years.
              - unfortunately, another 5-7 years will go away. Alexander, did you do pension co-financing?
              1. 0
                27 March 2015 12: 16
                So far, more is spent on the maintenance of the FIU than it earns, as long as there are preferential pensions for deputies, military pensions, etc., for which the state DOES NOT PAY, nothing good will come of it. Deposits will be reset after 10 years.
            4. +1
              26 March 2015 15: 05
              Where and WHERE does "the time of gray wages go ..."? Well, yes ... Now that after the "dollar - 60 rubles" salaries "have grown fourfold, or sevenfold, not 20 times ...", as if it will be easier for the people to live and "abroad will help us", as always, to withdraw money from the country ...
            5. Alf
              +3
              26 March 2015 19: 55
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The time of gray salaries is running out, people began to think about their pension.

              You are right, people are starting to think about their pension ... and understand that, firstly, they cannot live on it (unless this person is a bureaucrat), and, secondly, they are unlikely to survive until the pension, because. retirement age will not increase today, so tomorrow.
              The average life expectancy of Russians in 2014 increased to 71 years. [3]
          2. +5
            26 March 2015 08: 26
            Muscovites are oh, what are different ... Nearby was a factory, razderbanili. Muscovites are now gluing boats to parts of the factory, and locals are all eager to get there, salaries are high.
            1. +4
              26 March 2015 15: 09
              In our city everything that after "perestroika" was bought by "Moscow" is already absent. Everything is bankrupt, EVERYTHING !!!
          3. 0
            26 March 2015 10: 16
            1. He wrote so (see clause 3). But to be more precise - then at the place of tax accounting (this may be where the legal entity and where the production). Further, the profit is distributed to shareholders (registered, as an option, in offshore - so the state will not receive taxes on this profit)
            3. And to whom do these Muscovites belong? And WHERE do they spend this money? Obviously they don’t go to the Volga and don’t dress in products of the Ivanovo Sewing Factory.
            1. +1
              26 March 2015 19: 27
              The state has already received all taxes and fees - both VAT 18% and 20% profit, and even from the salaries of employees who, judging by the appearance of the factory workers, are most likely completely white, and this is even more than 50% of the salary amount (by the way, personal income tax is transferred to the budget locally, despite where the lawyer is registered), there are still all kinds of taxes on land, on property and so on, which are also not all in the federal budget, but some remain in the region. So after all this, the board of directors of this OJSC, part of the shares of which the company owns from offshore, decides whether to withdraw the remaining profit by paying 9% tax on dividends per hill or invest in development!
          4. +4
            26 March 2015 12: 06
            Quote: bmw
            . Salaries in the bulk consist of two parts: white and black

            You have not refuted Alexander in anything, only made it clear that you did not work as an economist in production. Salary is not profit, but cost. The "black" salary is not included in the cost price, therefore, this is a distribution of profits. In general, be careful about the word "profit". This is just one of the components of the mechanism for filling the budget, so to speak, the formation of a "tax base". It has nothing to do with reality. Just like expenses and income are not receipts and payments, and profit is not account balances.
          5. +4
            26 March 2015 15: 01
            Right. In our Kuban (after the flood in Krymsk) everything that previously belonged to the governor began to belong sharply - to Moscow. There is no difference, in principle, that he is an enemy (the governor is a latifundist, according to the Western press, before the flood, THE BIGGEST IN THE WORLD !!!), that these are not comrades to us.
        3. +2
          26 March 2015 06: 54
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          For the local population, these are jobs, salaries.

          Alexander, you understand that at modern, let's say, "factories" the staff is very small, it is clear that the return from a modern "combine" with a staff of 500 people is higher than that of the "soviet" years of the 80s, with 3000 thousand hard workers ... so the "jobs" are sooooo small. (better than no argument!)
          1. +7
            26 March 2015 07: 16
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            return from a modern "plant" with a staff of 500 people, higher than that of the "soviet" years of the 80s, with 3000 thousand hard workers.

            So, will we build shovels?
          2. +9
            26 March 2015 09: 08
            Andrey Yuryevich
            The return on the modern enterprise is higher .. Yes, well?
            Is this an excuse for what or to whom?
            If you destroyed an enterprise where 3000 people worked, and in exchange they built 500, then the remaining 2500, where did you go to waste?
            Or, as liberal-minded people dream, do you need labor migration, today here, tomorrow there, and the day after tomorrow somewhere else?
            So where to arrange 2500 people, if nothing else is being built in this town?
            In other words, the very communists are right when they say that the economy in our country is built a little bumpy and is also directly hostile to man, because it provides only one thing, to squeeze out profits to the maximum, without bothering with other issues from social programs to finding jobs for those who don’t lucky to be among the lucky ones.
            In the country, it is required to lay tens of thousands of kilometers of roads — it would seem where to make efforts — we are building around and near Moscow, well, part of the federal highways and that’s all.
            In the country it is required to raise agricultural production, we are producing an all-Russian garbage dump called a megalogor such as Moscow ... This is in the presence of millions of hectares of abandoned land bought under dubious laws 90 ..
            Pictures are good .. yes, optimistic pictures. So everywhere .. but unfortunately lubok, this is not all reality.
            Example? Take the city of Vladikavkaz, the former factory of OZATE. Now the trading platform of the Arctic store, how many people work in the Arctic, and how many worked in the OZATE? The difference is thousands. Where didn’t work already, who went from the taxi driver to the bandits or died out like a mammoth and, mind, then, in those areas, and with the available labor resources, it was long possible to set up assembly of agricultural machinery, to ensure the same SEVKAVKAZ-whoever thought about this-no one, driving vodka is easier, more profitable and better, as a percentage of the cost. .kayf and not a business.
            Another example, in the Soviet era, Tsvetmet managed to build plant buildings nearby to ensure the full production cycle, what now? Around and near-ruin, only Tsvetmet is dusting and poisoning the city ... And this, jobs, is ensuring the peace of the population , this is a decrease in aggression in society, this is the destruction of the social base for terrorist recruiters in Sevkavkaz ...
            1. 0
              26 March 2015 09: 24
              so all the same, will we build shovels? In our workshop, a shift of -15 people on CNC machines produces five times as many Soviet times (and I think you can cut half without harming production) to build roads? yes forward, I’m sure you will find dozens of vacancies for a bulldozer, excavator, grader! I don’t propose a handyman; there the Tajiks have firmly taken a niche; you won’t pull the hot asphalt against them in the heat.
              1. +3
                26 March 2015 16: 07
                saber (1
                A fan of social Darwinism?
                Come on, cut back, do not give the locals a job, hoping for Tajiks, your destiny in this case will be sad.
              2. +3
                26 March 2015 20: 09
                saber "so all the same, it's a question, are we going to build shovels? In our workshop, a shift of -15 people on CNC machines produces five times more Soviet times (and then I think you can cut half of it without damaging production."
                What a dashing cavalryman are you.))) Half cut without prejudice to production?))) Cut machines or people? If people nevermind that these are people and they have families, some kind of their own plans for life.))) If so, then ...
                I think it's fair to start the reduction with you.
            2. +1
              26 March 2015 15: 11
              The country also has an army ... But who will feed, water, and shoe it?
              THESE? Don’t tell my old age !!!
              1. -7
                26 March 2015 16: 08
                Sit in old age and don’t pee ..di, all the same, it’s not long to live ... He will not feed the army ...
          3. +3
            26 March 2015 09: 46
            Contrary to the opinion of many, screaming all nonsense at the expense of the Communists in general and the Communist Party in general, I have to say to you-
            On the last day of the outgoing 2014, President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin signed the long-awaited "Law on Industrial Policy in the Russian Federation." And the signing date is December 31, 2014, a few hours before the New Year’s chimes fight, is also symbolic.

            Thanks to the initiative of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the concept of this law was prepared and proposed to all fractions in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation. It should become a system document for the new industrialization of the country and a turn in the development of the Russian economy from a “well economy” to an innovative development economy. All this was realized at the cost of great collective efforts.

            The adoption of the law on industrial policy gives the Communist Party a great propaganda advantage in reaching out to voters, that we are not only a party of the word, but also a party of real affairs. All this was the development of the Communist Party program "Modernization without stops" for the entire economy. Every month we organized meetings with the leaders of the current federal government, contacts with the leaders of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation to promote our industrial initiatives.

            This is not Zhirinovsky’s chatter and not Mironov’s verbiage, together with boltology such as, for example, Andryusha Isaev from United Russia.

            This LAW, the key to the development of the country.
            As the Chairman of the Central Committee of the Communist Party G.A. Zyuganov, at the legislative level, the Communists managed to advance in the following:

            The Law on Strategic Planning in the Russian Federation was adopted in 2014;

            Law on the State Defense Order (adopted with our amendments, agreement on a conciliation commission);

            The Law on the Foundation for Advanced Research (Analogue to the USSR State Committee for Science and Technology, adopted at the initiative of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation);
            1. -1
              26 March 2015 15: 13
              The presence of "laws" is compensated by the NON-OBLIGATION of their implementation. (Russia).
              1. +3
                26 March 2015 16: 09
                scorpiosys (
                As you know, this stupid slogan is ejected forever when no one wants to do anything, but take advantage of something made by others who want a lot. For example, 90 years.
          4. -3
            26 March 2015 12: 10
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            3000 thousand hard workers ..

            So no profit is enough, feed, bring-take such a horde. That is the reason for the collapse of the USSR, and they said-the Englishwoman is crap.
          5. Alf
            0
            26 March 2015 19: 57
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            3000 thousand hard workers ....

            Maybe, after all, not with 3 MILLION, but with 3 THOUSAND?
        4. +2
          26 March 2015 10: 00
          This is not so bad, but what is really bad is that:
          1. Foreign owners have their own hand in the executive and legislative branches
          2. With this hand (and not traditional competitive advantages) they strengthen their market positions - suppress local competitors.
          3. A foreign owner can (if, for example, there is political pressure in his weatherland) VERY EASY to destroy the business he built here - and a violation in one link of the business chain will hit the whole chain.
          I think that you will be surprised to find out who owns the enterprises that produce bread, milk, meat in your city.
          There are undoubted advantages: perhaps, thanks to the European business, which has invested in projects in our territory, we are witnessing a split in Europe regarding the position in Russia.
        5. 0
          27 March 2015 06: 05
          There are at least two reasons in your post
          1. Or are you a representative of liberalism ...
          2. Either you thoughtlessly use the imposed template of "your own opinion" by the same liberals, well, you can say a victim of liberalism ...
          I will try to explain for you (if this corresponds to paragraph 2) or for readers ...
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Profit is leaving ..
          1. In the pocket of the one who built it all.
          2. On the development of the enterprise, otherwise it will not live long.
          3. Taxes go to where the commerce is registered.

          Well, here's an example for you - Roshen confectionery in Lipetsk wink ... Well, yes, he does pay taxes to the Russian treasury and creates jobs laughing . But the profit goes to him, and guess why he eventually uses it ??? Probably to help the Russians in the Donbass laughing , because he gets profit from the "Russian working cattle"?
          And do not minus laughing , you cannot solve the problem with minuses, for a start, to solve something, you should try to comprehend it. And how do you actually differ from cattle? The article perfectly shows - in the new cowsheds, cattle are happy laughing , you state the same
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          For the local population, these are jobs, salaries.

          For cattle, this is the same "jobs" and "salary" ... what So I'm sorry, but how exactly do you differ from cattle ??? The fact that she is horned and four-legged, and you are hornless and two-legged does not give you the right to divide, some kind of more compelling argument for difference is necessary, for example, REASON, that is, the ability to act meaningfully ...
          So forgive the truth, but judging by the comments, there are only two options described above. This is not a transition to personalities, just you were "lucky" and it was your comment that came to hand feel ... In fact, the problem is much broader and more numerous, and its variant is the second. Just a misunderstanding, I am struggling with this as best I can ... Do not believe the "free market" - you are not the chosen one, and you will not be lucky recourse .
      3. +3
        26 March 2015 09: 14
        Quote: Minus
        There are few advantages for the local population. Profit goes in an unknown direction ...

        You might think that the profit should go into the pocket of the local population. lol
        Who bought the company - that’s the profit, and large projects often do not start to pay off right away, first you need to repay the invested money and this can take more than one year.
        1. 0
          27 March 2015 06: 12
          There above is my comment about "profit" laughing ... Well Duc is how the "major battalion" will attack in Ukraine, then you are right laughing ...
          The Major Battalion is a combat group of army special forces made up exclusively of "God's chosen" type of parashenka, tymoshenko, well, those who profit "legally" and their offspring ... They have no armor, no weapons, because of their exclusiveness, they crush the enemy with divine superpowers laughing
      4. +1
        26 March 2015 10: 24
        Quote: Minus
        I fully support the opinion.

        Similarly! so now all over Russia: somewhere better, somewhere worse, but this is not the 90s and not even zero. The development has begun. And for locals, one advantage is work. But not thousands, but, in the best case, hundreds of people work at these industries, so far there aren’t enough for everyone.
        I agree with the author
        And what we have already experienced in our history - consider it, again the start. So calmly go down the mountain, calmly cross the river ...

        And the herd is already growing ... bully
        1. +1
          26 March 2015 15: 15
          But not the "30s" either. And not in the pocket of the country. And in the pocket of the capitalist. Then into the pocket of the enemies of the imperialists.
      5. 0
        26 March 2015 15: 00
        Dealers pursue a policy - invest less, take more. And about the Moscow businessmen ... Dig up the factory management and do not be surprised if they will be your fellow countrymen who moved to Moscow about fifteen to twenty years ago.
    2. +7
      26 March 2015 05: 14
      Even if, at first, this is so - nothing lasts forever under the moon. Especially now, when the cohort of "untouchables" is melting like March snow ...
      And such constructions in a suitcase "over the hill" cannot be carried with you!
    3. +7
      26 March 2015 05: 21
      I have a question here, not even one, in connection with your statement appeared.
      In great China, which is the most presumptuous of all, the plants of Bosch, Philips, and other dormouse who belong to? Whose engineers and workers work there, in China, which is the most presumptuous?
      1. +12
        26 March 2015 05: 52
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Bosch, Philips and other Sony plants to whom belong?

        In all firms operating in China, 51% of the capital (stock) belongs to the state. But they do not take part in the management. Accordingly, the profit is divided and remains in the country !!!! They can’t work differently. Therefore, China is developing.
        1. 0
          26 March 2015 06: 08
          Quote: devis
          In all firms operating in China, 51% of the capital (stock) belongs to the state.

          Yeah, Toyota opened a factory and now 51% owned by China laughing
          1. +1
            26 March 2015 06: 57
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yeah, Toyota opened a factory and now 51% owned by China

            to find something that China does NOT belong to! they clean everything around quietly, not only the hammer and the saab ...
            1. +4
              26 March 2015 07: 17
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              to find something that does NOT belong to China

              It will be more correct, if something is not produced by China. And it belongs, it’s a little bit different.
              1. +1
                26 March 2015 19: 09
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                to find something that does NOT belong to China

                It will be more correct, if something is not produced by China. And it belongs, it’s a little bit different.

                a moot point Sasha, because the previous brands I mentioned are not in China ... but Chinese.
        2. -1
          27 March 2015 04: 45
          China is developing because it was not divided into 15 parts.
          1. 0
            27 March 2015 19: 26
            VseDoFeNi
            And who divided the Union into 15 parts, if not those who still sit in power chairs with specific princes, screaming both at the hand of the market and the liberal paradigm of the country's development?
            30 years from the beginning of the hunch building and 25 years of liberal insanity, a sufficient period to show that they could or sign their own worthlessness - that’s what they fully show the second.
    4. +11
      26 March 2015 05: 52
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      .as it often happens the director is appointed from the outside and the real profit goes somewhere to the Anglo-Saxon bank and settles in the budget of their countries.

      That's right, there is nothing to post pictures of obscure enterprises. Everything is collapsed, there is no industry. Everything is sold over a hill. Do you not see, Putin is draining the country before your eyes. Yes, you take off your pink glasses at last.
      With the advent of Putin, not a single plant was built. It was only collapsing. Every day of the tale, even Banshee and he began to talk about non-existent factories. You also have to go down to Photoshop, Roma from the entire Communist Party to you am
      1. -1
        26 March 2015 05: 58
        It’s necessary to go down to Photoshop,


        smile why so photoshop ....

        Imagine, for example, that you are presented with a beautiful cardboard box, dollars, beautiful girls, vodka, gold and other charms are painted on it and they say it all lies there .... you open it and there it is .... donut hole .... just right hanged so lit like a sucker, it's a shame.
      2. +2
        26 March 2015 06: 54
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .Yes, take off your pink glasses at last.

        When they say:
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Everything is collapsed, there is no industry. Everything is sold over a hill. Do you not see, Putin is merging the country before your eyes

        So the glasses are brown. smile
    5. +1
      26 March 2015 06: 48
      I sincerely envy the people of Voronezh ... look around (Ural) melancholy takes ... there are ruins, but there are no Siemens, but why not ... Voronezh is somewhere in Europe ??? wink
      1. 0
        26 March 2015 07: 33
        At our place in Kursk, the Mayak plant has been covered for many years. It is simply amazing that nothing is still being carried from the buildings. And once he made batteries for submarines.
        1. +1
          26 March 2015 19: 44
          Quote: Basarev
          It’s amazing that nothing is carried from the hulls yet.

          it’s just amazing that you haven’t stuffed the cons yet ...
          1. 0
            26 March 2015 20: 05
            So there’s no longer a battery pack - why a plant with old technology. It is necessary to raise a new one, with the desired profile.
    6. +2
      26 March 2015 08: 29
      I know only about 1 plant from those listed in the article, the cable plant Svyazstroy, owned by OJSC Svyazstroy-1, Voronezh, the plant produces not only optics but also "copper" (coaxial, twisted pair). Everything about which Roman writes is good, but there is a nuance, as an example with this particular plant and with optics ... yes, the plant produces a cable, but the optical fiber itself meets modern standards, it has historically been produced by only 2 countries of the USA and Japan, these are companies such as OFS, Corning, Fujikura, Sumitomo. So it turns out, like everywhere else, we will make the cable itself, but the main components can be taken only over the hill.
      Well, if only the same fiber in Russia they started to do it would be super ...
      1. +6
        26 March 2015 09: 28
        Well, here you are definitely not right.
        Back in the 2000s, Svyazstroy began to master the production of optics. I myself then worked in the "Centertelecom" system, I was connected with the cable. So, already in 2001, when I came there, 80% of the optics were transported from Odeskabel in Odessa. 20% had their own as an experiment. At first, our optics were installed ... well, let's just say where you could put them. Where the requirements were less. Then the quality leveling began.
        The development of optocable we had as much as it was, the question was not even in technology, but in technologists and workers. Brought to Germany for training.
        And now it works, and it works normally. On the streets when the cable is pulled through the hatches, if you look closely - all local.
        As if the ass calmly, and ask is from whom.
        We have our own fiber, I can tell you that for sure. Yes, it's hard to compare with "Fujikura", but in the price / quality ratio it is quite wow. And in today's conditions, generally honey.
        1. 0
          26 March 2015 21: 15
          Banshee
          Our defense industry takes your cable and that’s good. Last year we reworked all the controls, from old cables to optical fiber. Engineers did not complain about the quality.
        2. 0
          27 March 2015 12: 46
          You apparently didn’t understand me correctly, I didn’t try to dispute the production of the cable, they have been producing it for a very long time, the same Svyazstroy, Eurocable, Incab, Samara Plant, etc. ... The cable is of our production, but the optical fiber itself (that there is an environment in which light is distributed) it doesn’t exist, the standards G.650 - G.655 that are now used are quite high, so it’s a rather complicated process to establish own production of fiber. So it turns out like everywhere else, without imported components so to speak, you can’t create a cable. I hope this situation ever changes.
          1. Air
            Air
            0
            30 March 2015 06: 16
            I completely agree in you
    7. +8
      26 March 2015 09: 16
      !!!
      Thought so, what to ask!
      I will answer.

      Cowshed - "Molvest", ours, Russian.
      A trio of metal plants - two local, one Muscovites.
      Furniture factory "Angstrem" - local.
      "Svyazstroy" (cable) - local, there, of course, there is no one among the shareholders, but when there were still vouchers, my father and I bought a bit. They send 2-3 thousand a year ...
      Veropharm is building a drug building - yes, it’s now.
      Well, Siemens in half.
      Elevator - local
      Logistic complex for seeds - local. The second, with a curved roof - Muscovites pile.

      We have such a governor, he will write off the earth to anyone, if he does not drip into the budget. Rumor has it that he is in the grain elevator, but by and large, no one cares about it.
      1. dmb
        0
        26 March 2015 10: 37
        Doesn't it seem to you Roman that this position: "but by and large, no one cares about it." - smells bad. Do not take it personally (for I respect you), but the footmen have always been proud of the opportunity to finish off the pieces from the master's table.
      2. 0
        26 March 2015 11: 34
        Quote: Banshee
        Trio of smelters

        By the way, Roman, what about the history of the planned nickel mining?
        1. +1
          26 March 2015 19: 47
          Quote: saag
          Quote: Banshee
          Trio of smelters

          By the way, Roman, what about the history of the planned nickel mining?

          we have this plant, it is dying safely (Sverdlovsk region) because it works to the west, and sanctions in this matter rule ...
      3. +2
        26 March 2015 12: 23
        Good afternoon! I'd add about Angstrom, the one that is a furniture factory. My wife and I took furniture for a long time to a large room, came to a local furniture store (located 50 km from the Moscow Ring Road), many different manufacturers, chose a wall from Angstrom. The price is certainly not cheap, but worth it. The appearance and quality of the materials is good enough, with the exception of processing the edges of furniture plates, they are rather rough and you can peel the skin about them, the loops are definitely not ours, well, the question is about the rest of the little things, where is it done? Whose raw materials for the plates are also unknown. Of course, it would be nice if there was a full production cycle from the smallest plug to the equipment on which the plates are made, etc.
        1. +1
          26 March 2015 20: 09
          A full cycle is not needed, good subcontractors are needed, supplying high-quality fittings and preferably Russian factories.
    8. +1
      26 March 2015 12: 38
      here, an excellent article, read, admired, smiled, thanks to the author)))) tanks, tanks, planes, airplanes, but the economy should also be on top, especially with all sorts of sanctions ...
      1. +1
        26 March 2015 19: 50
        Quote: Sasha 19871987
        here, an excellent article, read, admired, smiled, thanks to the author)))) tanks, tanks, planes, airplanes, but the economy should also be on top, especially with all sorts of sanctions ...

        You need to admire in small towns, away from the province, there is an oil painting! and regional centers are not the place where the bulk of the population lives and tries to survive.
    9. 0
      26 March 2015 18: 25
      a drop in the sea.
      Today I went to buy a microwave stumbled upon the Belarusian Midea, from the Belarusian sticker on it, but the Talmud. These enterprises are basically from the same series. Where petrochemistry, chemistry, microelectronics, pharmaceuticals, engineering, etc.
      where nano is not necessary to tell, in the course of what I wish you.
      Sitting on resources and not processing them is very embarrassing.
      zy.Esli someone doubts the validity of words, try to answer a simple question why "Russian" milk has risen in price by more than 1.5 times?
      1. 0
        26 March 2015 21: 17
        Quote: twviewer
        Why did "Russian" milk rise in price more than 1.5 times?

        Where is it? In Karelia, since last fall, the rise in price of dairy products is not more than 15%, milk 5-7%, depending on fat content.
        1. 0
          27 March 2015 00: 12
          Quote: non-primary
          Where is it? In Karelia, since last fall, the rise in price of dairy products is not more than 15%, milk 5-7%, depending on fat content.

          in St. Petersburg, the cheapest milk cost about 30 now about 45
    10. +1
      26 March 2015 20: 36
      Who invests in production is profitable, as well as new jobs and tax payments to the budget are created.
    11. 0
      27 March 2015 15: 59
      Yes, look at her contented face, go sour to her.
  2. +20
    26 March 2015 05: 11
    I dare to assure you, in the Southern Urals, new factories and large farms have also formed a decent amount.
    Now I would still have to resolve the issue of "outbid" ... Tomatoes from the field - 17 rubles / kg (in season), in stores cheaper than 80 rubles / kg have not seen! The same situation is with the rest of agricultural products.
    1. +5
      26 March 2015 05: 17
      Tomatoes from the field - 17 rubles / kg (in season), in stores cheaper than 80 r / kg I have not seen! The same situation with the rest of agricultural products.


      And not only agricultural products ....
      often products in RUSSIA are very cost-effective but various taxes and resellers (speculators or intermediaries as you like) lift prices to heaven wanting to get the jackpot immediately.

      The recent jump in the dollar in RUSSIA and beyond it the prices are connected with the actions of just such people ...
      Roughly speaking, we were raped by us at the same time ... I don’t know how to deal with such people in RUSSIA ... the strings from them go to the upper echelons of power.
      1. VAVAN
        -1
        26 March 2015 05: 40
        in ancient Rome there was a hard cantrol for such outsourcing, the ruler set a fixed price and who raised it, executed ..........
        1. msm
          msm
          -1
          26 March 2015 17: 53
          Therefore, the empire of the Romans has existed for a thousand years! Yes
      2. +4
        26 March 2015 05: 58
        Quote: The same LYOKHA

        The recent jump in the dollar in RUSSIA

        The fact of the matter is that there was no sharp jump, as it was in 1998. Everything was clear and the people on the dollar course were not sickly welded, unlike 19998. It was gradually reduced and that's it belay
        1. -1
          26 March 2015 08: 18
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          people on the buck course are not sickly welded unlike 19998.

          Yes, you my friend terminator! Who was sent to us from the future? laughing
          1. +1
            26 March 2015 08: 53
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Who was sent to us from the future?

            I’m not from the past, to laugh at you from the future laughing
      3. -3
        26 March 2015 15: 22
        What are you crying for? You (and us) were blessed with a "cheap ruble", deprived you (and us) of the "problem of choice", such as "what to buy from the next payday? This, or THIS ...".
        Now "neither this and not THIS ..." There are NO problems with the choice! And this is good...
    2. +2
      26 March 2015 06: 40
      Quote: vlad_m
      I dare to assure you, in the Southern Urals, new factories and large farms have also formed a decent amount.

      Yes, this is so and almost all of this was formed with the support of large industrial enterprises, for example, from Chelyabinsk and Tyumen!
    3. +2
      26 March 2015 19: 52
      Quote: vlad_m
      I dare to assure you, in the Southern Urals, new factories and large farms have also formed a decent amount.

      do not say for the entire southern Urals, regional centers live, the rest survive.
      1. +1
        26 March 2015 20: 19
        andrei yurievich "do not speak for the entire southern Urals, regional centers live, the rest survive."
        The people in the country do not dangle here and carry crap.))) We have 10-12 regions where, what and how is done. The rest ... there are a lot of differently damaged ones, and this is a fact.
  3. +4
    26 March 2015 05: 14
    All this is available throughout the country, but more is needed. Let's hope that soon this will no longer surprise anyone (there will be many everywhere).
  4. 0
    26 March 2015 05: 38
    it’s good that they are building and what has already been built. But who is the master and where will he go? Yes, many are built, but many are destroyed. I spent a month wandering around Altai in search of a not very expensive house and saw such desolation and devastation that at least make films. Cellular communication is not even everywhere. I immediately dismantled such houses and drove on. And before these once probably good villages, we don’t start getting into it, just a taxi. This is not a grumbling old man, just a statement of fact. In foreign policy, I'm still for Putin for 80-90 percent.
    1. 0
      26 March 2015 06: 01
      Quote: vjatsergey
      Yes, many are built, but many are destroyed.

      That's right, everything is destroyed!
      Quote: vjatsergey
      e. Moreover, before these once probably good villages, we don’t start getting into it, just a taxi.

      By taxi to the village wassat
      Quote: vjatsergey
      about foreign policy, I'm still 80-90 percent for Putin

      Shame on you, he’s draining Russia, why don’t you take it recourse
      1. +4
        26 March 2015 10: 37
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: vjatsergey
        about foreign policy, I'm still 80-90 percent for Putin
        Shame on you, he’s draining Russia, why don’t you take it

        Alexander, you have a good mood today, and trolling from under the clave is still rushing. laughing
        Oh, they’ll ruin your mood!
      2. +1
        26 March 2015 15: 26
        Through oil pipelines, it drains the future of our children. Soon they will get to the point that the devils (God forgive me) will jump out of the bottom of the earth and cripple all the pipelines themselves. They will have nothing to hell, to drown !!!
    2. KOH
      +9
      26 March 2015 07: 11
      Russia in my opinion, this hour resembles a large house with many rooms, where for 10 years they thumped, staged brothels, fought on booze, sold everything that is possible from home ... and now they began to restore order, and since the population has we are not in such a territory as in China, for example, cleaning is slower than I wanted, plus a bunch of well-wishers of external and internal ...
      1. +3
        26 March 2015 09: 29
        Great comparison!

        I would also add that breaking has always been easy, and restoring is more difficult.
    3. 0
      26 March 2015 20: 35
      vjatsergey "it's good what they are building and what has already been built. But who is the owner and where will he go? Yes, a lot is being built, but a lot is being destroyed. I spent a whole month in Altai in search of a not very expensive house and saw such desolation and devastation that at least films take off. "
      You probably dreamed?)))) Now they will answer in this vein.))) The countryside is also sad: in Kurgan, Omsk, Kirov, many areas of Chelyabinsk, the eastern part of Orenburg, the north of Udmurtia, the north of Mari El. This is where I drove offhand. The outflow of population, poverty, roads killed, collapsed farms and skeletons of enterprises. Some areas are afloat, but there’s nowhere to work. Here the factories showed it well.)))) There would be more of these.))) We also build and develop.)))
  5. +4
    26 March 2015 06: 26
    It is pleasing that Russian industry is recovering. And not only military.
  6. KOH
    +4
    26 March 2015 06: 27
    I read some comments, and I immediately recall the story from Yeralash, when the illusionist turned the boy into a goat, and he said: "I don't believe that, that's all!"
    Many thanks to the author for the selection, we have Zyuganov who loves to yell that they ruined everything, it’s not for nothing that the grandfather thinks what to sow on the plot, apparently his electorate ...
    Our television basically shows one negative, but we need more of these stories ...
    1. 0
      26 March 2015 09: 38
      KOH
      "We have Zyuganov who loves to shout that they have destroyed everything, it is not in vain that the old man thinks on what to sow on the plot, apparently his electorate ..."
      But whose electorate is EP? Do not be shy, the same one that sows the plow is under the threat of dismissal, forced to vote for not sowing, not plowing, but skimming the cream.
      Whose electorate is the LDPR? And the one who weaned to sow, plow and work-lumpen-proletariat, as they say. Yes, a handful of about and straightforward, right?
      Wed? Well, here with a yellow flag, it’s not at all a desire to talk where and who ..
      Can you share your thoughts, is the very same Zyuganov wrong. When pokes his face into the fact that in a country with the largest hydrocarbon reserves, the price of fuel and lubricants is prohibitive? And this price pulls the rest. Is it wrong when he says that all these games of liberals from the ENERGY SYSTEM of the country led to a jump in prices? Having created around any generating facilities any buy-sell mafia that lifts prices?
      Having supported in many respects the foreign policy of the President and the Government, the Communist Party faction insists on changing the internal socio-economic liberal course, which led the country to a crisis state. The measures taken by the Government do not solve the problems that have arisen, but rather exacerbate them. Especially with regard to raising the key rate to 17%, which blocked the access of enterprises to loans. The idea of ​​a new industrialization of the country on the latest scientific and technical basis remains relevant. It is in this context that the issue of import substitution should be considered. It is very important in the framework of anti-crisis measures to pay close attention to mid-level high-tech companies, especially those that manufacture various electronic devices, microelectronics. Everything possible must be done to prevent their bankruptcies, in order for them to develop successfully in times of crisis, because this is a matter of both our national competitiveness and our national security.
      So the young man is zealous with a blazing gaze. If you did not have a horizon above the bush in which you were sitting, you would not scream as loudly as the hero of one song ...
      1. -2
        26 March 2015 15: 28
        Duc ... The country is it, ours! But the "hosts" are stray. Or "re-entry".
      2. -1
        26 March 2015 19: 18
        Mdya .. here with the thoughts of the minusers is clearly..problems, well, at least something, for the sake of decency they wrote, and this is not there .. an image with respect to this immediately arises, a bunch of gray with a man with a staff ...
  7. 0
    26 March 2015 06: 31
    the fact that everything is bad is the propaganda of the fifth column, writers, and enemies of the country ...
  8. +10
    26 March 2015 06: 31
    For those on an armored train. Even Lenin wrote that everything that the capitalist invests in the development of production is for the benefit of the people, but everything that he devours, skips and spends on his mistresses is money spent in vain. And what about the local population - does it want to work? And if he wants - then here it is, there is where to work. So there are a lot of such construction projects. And for the distrustful - the site "made by us".
  9. +3
    26 March 2015 06: 40
    All this is good. The main thing is that "Monsanto" with its planting materials and other modified products does not get there. And then the head of the Russian Grain Union is not drawing very bright prospects.
  10. +1
    26 March 2015 06: 58
    "... We were surprised, but knowledgeable people said that all this will work on scrap metal."

    At least the question wasn’t asked where did so much scrap for the production of rolled metal come from?
    1. +4
      26 March 2015 07: 19
      Quote: saag
      At least the question wasn’t asked where did so much scrap for the production of rolled metal come from?

      From Russia.
      1. BMW
        +2
        26 March 2015 07: 49
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        From Russia.


        From Ukraine, because the ATO.

        Zadornov joked: when Ukraine pulled its troops to the border, scrap collectors began to pull up from Russia.
        1. +1
          26 March 2015 08: 54
          Quote: bmw

          From Ukraine, because the ATO.

          Yeah, but the ATO is over, the plant will be closed, yes laughingAlthough no, the plant was built, and the metal was dumb, so Putin unleashed a warrior in Ukraine to provide the plant with metal. Well, in fact, we have a dinosaur president good
          1. +8
            26 March 2015 09: 36
            Quote: saag
            At least the question wasn’t asked where did so much scrap for the production of rolled metal come from?


            And all that you feel bad and tasteless. What are you sitting here then, our sad?

            Set, set.

            We have two burial grounds here, South Eastern Railway and Rechflot. So there will be enough of them for almost a year of work. Old barges and locomotives are standing, maybe there will be time, I’ll roll, shoot. And about the auto-dump just silent. With the aspirations of our car enthusiasts, I don’t know where, how, and we have this inexhaustible source of metal.

            To the cows claims, I hope not? And then you never know ...
            1. -1
              26 March 2015 11: 37
              Quote: Banshee
              Set, set.

              Finally, bravissimo, people started asking questions, not consuming TV

              "Why are you sitting here then, our sad one?"
              No need to be so killed about this, the heart suddenly can’t stand it :-)
            2. Luzhichanin
              +1
              26 March 2015 12: 48
              Quote: Banshee
              To the cows claims, I hope not? And then you never know ...

              is there a deer? laughing
  11. +6
    26 March 2015 07: 51
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Minus
    . Profit goes in an unknown direction ...

    Profit is leaving ..
    1. In the pocket of the one who built it all.
    2. On the development of the enterprise, otherwise it will not live long.
    3. Taxes go to where the commerce is registered.
    Quote: Minus
    There are few pluses for the local population

    For the local population, these are jobs, salaries.

    twice plus you for the video and commentary ... you should be happy and not like the liberals to look for a problem where it doesn’t exist - it’s better for them to waste wasteland overgrown with weed, but no one’s stuffing his pocket ...
  12. +2
    26 March 2015 08: 02
    Another agricultural warehouse. The roof did not go, the architect Kuzu's father built.

    Why the warehouse. The factory should not be beautiful?)
    1. +3
      26 March 2015 09: 38
      Photo so-so, it’s necessary to see with your eyes. A similar picture was posted on the local site, they wrote that it was a small aircraft production plant with a runway on the roof. And everyone believed it.
  13. +5
    26 March 2015 08: 03
    He himself took part in the construction of the Beloyarsk NPP (Zarechny), Sverdlovsk. region. And also UMMC-Steel (Tyumen). drinks
    1. +2
      26 March 2015 08: 26
      Quote: Krona
      He himself participated in the construction of the Beloyarsk NPP

      Thanks Colleague for the reservoir !! hi I'm going on Saturday ... winked They will also regret that they were born fish! am
      1. +2
        26 March 2015 08: 55
        Quote: retired
        They will also regret that they were born fish!

        Not Yurok, you won’t cross the locals there! The people there are strong winked
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. +7
          26 March 2015 09: 12
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Not Yurok, you won’t cross local ones there!

          Maybe not retype. But I’ll try ...
          Hi Sasha! hi
  14. +2
    26 March 2015 08: 24
    Also drove by. This zone, if my memory serves me right, is located about 30 km beyond Voronezh. side of Ostrogozhsk. Really impressed. And now there are more and more such zones throughout the country.
    1. +2
      26 March 2015 09: 39
      Towards Novovoronezh. I also plan to roll on a new nuclear power plant. That's where the construction!
      1. +1
        26 March 2015 10: 25
        Quote: Banshee
        Towards Novovoronezh.

        Well then I remember correctly. If you go to Ostrogozhsk, then first you need to go to Novovoronezh.
        Good afternoon, Roman. hi
  15. Fox
    +1
    26 March 2015 08: 32
    Quote: saag
    "... We were surprised, but knowledgeable people said that all this will work on scrap metal."

    At least the question wasn’t asked where did so much scrap for the production of rolled metal come from?

    the rubbish is nearby ... dragged from there.
    1. -4
      26 March 2015 08: 35
      Quote: Fox
      the rubbish is nearby ... dragged from there.

      There is where to carry, do not fall for stamps
      1. +6
        26 March 2015 08: 57
        Quote: saag
        don't fall for stamps

        That's right, the article FALSE, FALSE and FALSE again. People don’t see, these plants are simple photoshop. Everything is destroyed. These are simple decorations, for Putin’s PR. Nobody works there, they don’t pay salaries, there’s no metal. Oil in Russia and gas also run out , the maximum is enough until the end of the year. Infa 246%.
        1. +2
          26 March 2015 09: 17
          in the Nizhny Novgorod region such objects take a picture - a minimum of a week is necessary!
        2. +1
          26 March 2015 09: 17
          Ha, a lie a lie and Putin’s PR ...
          Romanov, do not visit Ukrainian sites in the morning!
          1. +5
            26 March 2015 09: 26
            Quote: AlNikolaich
            Romanov, do not visit Ukrainian sites in the morning!

            This is TRUTH, here is the evidence, look at the photo, it is written there. We arrived on the day off and therefore there is no. HAHAHA. Yes, whoever believes in this is the same real fraud. They drank money, built the scenery and surrounded the fence so that the journalists wouldn’t did not recognize.
            Putin can only build prisons, here is the proof in this video, millions of doomed Russians will sit there crying
            1. 0
              26 March 2015 15: 33
              Touch the windows. First BIG, and then bricked up to half. Oh, those children with ArchiCAD in my hands. Shaw, they didn’t know why they were painting the house?
            2. 0
              28 March 2015 08: 41
              And at the end of the video, financial details. The fight for democracy?
  16. +2
    26 March 2015 09: 07
    Well, about two factories in the whole USSR, you bent! in Novosibirsk there were at least 4 of these selmash - Sibselmash, sibtekstilmash and so on ... though Boria Yeltsin ruined everything ... but under the USSR it was huge factories!
    1. +1
      26 March 2015 09: 40
      Exactly, "Sibselmash" was, yes. God grant that at least a couple will be restored.
      1. +2
        26 March 2015 10: 43
        Quote: Banshee
        Exactly, "Sibselmash" was, yes. God grant that at least a couple will be restored.

        Even in Bryansk there is a small factory - "Bryanskselmash". Now I have cooperated with the Belarusian "Gomselmash", so they produce good products.
    2. +1
      26 March 2015 11: 40
      Well, about two factories in the whole USSR, you bent! in Novosibirsk there were at least 4 of these selmash - Sibselmash, sibtekstilmash and so on ... though Boria Yeltsin ruined everything ... but under the USSR it was huge factories!


      I agree. There is, of course, some optimism for Voronezh. However, the pace of enterprise commissioning does not stand up to criticism. Returning to those very times, i.e. Soviet can say that the number of newly created enterprises with the number of working Russian personnel is IMPORTANT compared with the same pace of the late 70s and 80s. A simple example in our city. The excavator plant has practically stopped production and can barely breathe a wagon. Previously, 10 and 20 thousand people worked for them, respectively. Now throughout the country they have reported on the opening of a new HITACHI plant with a staff of working ... 200 people. to return to the old jobs of the old factory ... you need to build 50 plants. Draw your own conclusions.
      1. +1
        26 March 2015 15: 20
        The number of jobs, unfortunately, is reduced due to improvement and robotization of production ... Progress.
    3. 0
      27 March 2015 01: 36
      Krasnoyarsk combine.
  17. +4
    26 March 2015 09: 14
    We were poured with shit at first in the 90s and we sincerely believed that we were a miserable, dirty pig country inhabited by alcoholics. There are alcoholics, there are bad roads, there is corruption, BUT your mother, why doesn’t anyone ever say good things ???? !!!! That in the USA there are no drunks and corrupt officials? Not in Europe? In Asia? We are building many factories, agriculture, which the liberals buried a long time ago, for some reason is flourishing in earnest. I judge in the Amur region. He moved to live in a village, so there is no place for cows to graze ALL the lands around are sown with a local enterprise. Surprisingly, the head there is not Chinese and not Armenian, but the most ordinary Russian man. The city where I was born, Blagoveshchensk, has changed beyond recognition in 10 years! He became handsome, well-groomed. But we are only learning to sing this, for we did not know how to do it before. We were taught to complex and not raise our heads. But enough of us, it's time to be proud of our country. Don’t become alcoholics yourself, don’t take bribes, throw cigarette butts into the ballot box, don’t write past closets in closets and everything will be fine. And also our family is reborn, where there is a father and mother, and the president is a real man, and the army is polite, which you can be proud of.
    1. -1
      26 March 2015 12: 10
      Quote: dejavu
      In Asia?

      Yes, there is, only now they open the Asian Hitachi plant in Russia, and not Sibselmash in Japan
    2. msm
      msm
      0
      26 March 2015 18: 36
      Alcoholics are

    3. 0
      28 March 2015 08: 43
      Thank. Countryman.
    4. 0
      29 March 2015 00: 02
      I agree with you! I can not plus, because a beginner needs ten comments, and nevertheless .... Fiercely plus!
  18. 3vs
    +1
    26 March 2015 09: 15
    "We will have everything. It's a matter of time."
    Our Naglo-Saxon "partners" will do everything so that we do not have this resource - time.
  19. +1
    26 March 2015 09: 22
    And the cows will grow, and the plants will be completed, and there will be polymers. In ancient times, Russia also did not immediately form. And what we have already experienced in our history - consider it, again the start.

    A couple of questions:
    And why not a single physiognomy responsible for bringing the country to the level of "start again" suffered? Why did the radiant one declare that "we are not in the 37th year", "there will be no revision of the results of privatization," "amnesty for capital," "we have no oligarchy"?
    1. 0
      26 March 2015 09: 29
      because, dear, unfortunately, otherwise it will be hellier for you to live poor and hungry for some time without a XNUMX% guarantee of correcting the situation ... unfortunately this is reality ...
  20. +4
    26 March 2015 12: 39
    I looked on YouTube the channel’s forward time, well, damn how many really necessary and useful things are happening in the country ..... we need to show all these new factories, the development of industry so that our opposition does not crow, that the country does nothing and show the Supreme Rada less. ... already pulled up
  21. +2
    26 March 2015 14: 01
    I agree with the author. They are all naked theorists, creating their reality from the go..n that pours from the box. Those who do not know and know little. As a rule, this is the so-called. For some reason, the creative intelligentsia in our country call this ballast or parasites, as they like, the elite, and at one time they buried this "elite" behind the fence of the cemetery.
    1. -2
      26 March 2015 15: 35
      Live in our time, and then "sing" about it.
  22. Tribuns
    0
    26 March 2015 14: 01
    "So let's calmly go down the mountain, calmly cross the river ..." and thoroughly sweep away the western "herd" with its sanctions ...
    That is, everything will be done in accordance with the well-known joke about the old, experienced bull and his young fellow bull, who saw a herd of cows below the mountain, across the river ...
  23. 0
    26 March 2015 14: 02
    The question of ownership of the means of production is fundamental. Especially in light of the nationality of the owner of the means of production. In Kamchatka, we have the head (almost - for he is the chairman of United Russia) of the city district, Mr. Slyshenko, the owner of at least six non-weak companies. Nevertheless, he occupies such a position. And so it directs that the whole city hiccups. The prosecutor’s office is silent. I don’t know, probably everything is formally legal. But in the air is what is in the cesspools, which have not been cleaned for a long time .....
  24. 0
    26 March 2015 14: 34
    We will have everything. It's a question of time.

    I agree with the author of the article.
    A photo of "agricultural holdings" 100% owned by the oligarchs .. sorry nothing.
  25. +2
    26 March 2015 15: 14
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    .as it often happens the director is appointed from the outside and the real profit goes somewhere to the Anglo-Saxon bank and settles in the budget of their countries.

    That's right, there is nothing to post pictures of obscure enterprises. Everything is collapsed, there is no industry. Everything is sold over a hill. Do you not see, Putin is draining the country before your eyes. Yes, you take off your pink glasses at last.
    With the advent of Putin, not a single plant was built. It was only collapsing. Every day of the tale, even Banshee and he began to talk about non-existent factories. You also have to go down to Photoshop, Roma from the entire Communist Party to you am
    Dear, I can confirm the REALITY of these factories and productions from the article. This area is called "Industrial Park" Maslovsky ". All the pictures are real. And the first was the plant" Simens ". For non-believers, come, I will show you. And there they began to withdraw the production of secondary factories, so that they would not interfere in the city. And more. that the plant SK, "Shinny", VASO, GOO, VMZ, VVRZ, MCh, TMP and others are working to write an article, or believe so (though I don't promise the photo, regime ones)?
  26. Antsifer
    +1
    26 March 2015 15: 18
    everything is normal with us. and still catch up.
  27. 0
    26 March 2015 16: 02
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yeah, Toyota opened a factory and now 51% owned by China

    to find something that China does NOT belong to! they clean everything around quietly, not only the hammer and the saab ...
    about Saab, expand the idea, please
  28. 0
    26 March 2015 16: 09
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz

    judging by the comments, are you a fan of frenzied war communism?
    1. 0
      26 March 2015 19: 21
      erseer
      Judging by my comments, I am a supporter of healthy pragmatism, not social Darwinism and a vulgar understanding of liberalism. Fershtein?
  29. 0
    26 March 2015 16: 24
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    ... there is nothing to post pictures of obscure enterprises. Everything is collapsed, there is no industry. Everything is sold over a hill ...
    Sorry for the curiosity, but still I would like to get answers to several questions: what are you yourself? how many jobs have created? What is the share of the country's budget?
  30. 0
    26 March 2015 16: 44
    Quote: vjatsergey
    it’s good that they are building and what has already been built. But who is the master and where will he go? Yes, many are built, but many are destroyed. I spent a month wandering around Altai in search of a not very expensive house and saw such desolation and devastation that at least make films. Cellular communication is not even everywhere. I immediately dismantled such houses and drove on. And before these once probably good villages, we don’t start getting into it, just a taxi. This is not a grumbling old man, just a statement of fact. In foreign policy, I'm still for Putin for 80-90 percent.
    I can offer 49 acres in the Voronezh region.
    a small house (it looks like a hut, but half of the house inside has been repaired in full), there is electricity, a few meters to the gas, asphalt is right up to the house, there is a river nearby, there are no problems with communication, there will be an oil factory nearby, there will be few 49 acres - you can 300 hectares to arrange for rent, 22 km to Voronezh. half a lama of "wooden" all the fun :-)
    never an advertisement if what ... the neighbor is just selling a year and a half already - some skimmers around ...
  31. 0
    26 March 2015 17: 38
    Quote: scorpiosys
    All this "trifle" is not fundamental for the development of the country.

    in countries of "real, genuine democracy" this, as you said, "trifle" is the main labor supply.
  32. +1
    26 March 2015 17: 59
    Quote: msm
    msm

    what is left of the empire?
    and what remains of the swaggering Spain, well, the one that caravans of galleons exported gold and silver from America?
    what is the "queen of the seas and okians" England now?
    Where is the "millennial Reich" of Germany now?
    everything flows and changes ...
    1. 0
      26 March 2015 19: 30
      erseer
      Well, let's begin, you are our expert ..
      The Spanish disease that struck Spain and ultimately led to the death of the Spanish Empire, a contagious thing, shifted to Russia, the same sore, a bunch of compradors taking everything abroad, leaving crumbs in the country.

      At least, to this day, having relocated the Spanish woman in the country's economy has not been overcome — as we traded raw materials for candy wrappers, we continue, instead of developing our own segments of the industry, without which the country is NOT INDEPENDENT — is it able to understand?

      England? What does it mean ...- a stupid one who believes that England, more precisely Great Britain and the British Commonwealth does not represent anything from itself is a dangerous misconception.

      Defeated Germany, at 45, this is not Germany in the new century, the locomotive of the European Union, the most powerful country in Europe, It’s not enough just to throw off the hegemony of the USA and gain nuclear weapons.
      Anyone who throws bonnets, yells and screams, they say Germany -nothing, does not know the history of both Germany itself and the abilities of the Germans.
      And so, everything flows, everything changes, in sewers you never know what flows ....
      The main thing is not to confuse the sewer, with the study and history ....
  33. +1
    26 March 2015 18: 15
    I drew attention to the "Best goods of Belarus 2011 and 2013".
  34. +1
    26 March 2015 18: 32
    Milking carousel is not bad, but it's yesterday) But also not bad. Somehow I did a cowshed with loose housing - there the cows go by themselves, when they want to eat go to the feed table and then there is a checkpoint with a robot - he scans them and, if necessary, milks them) Now only they do it.
  35. Dudu
    0
    26 March 2015 19: 13
    The sheds in the photo are certainly stylish, but the "reindeer" ribs stick out like in Buchenwald.
    1. +1
      28 March 2015 08: 52
      The calf was recently born. In appearance 2-3 weeks. Maximum month.
  36. +1
    26 March 2015 19: 21
    The article is good. Correct.

    Yes, not everything is perfect and there are a lot of questions, but this is better than an empty place !!!!
  37. 0
    26 March 2015 19: 36
    Well, the authors give, even if they raised the exact information
    Say, there were two factories for the whole Union, Rostov and Voronezh "Selmash", all were sold and plundered.


    but what about the Krasnyarsky, Gomel, Kherson agricultural machine-building plants (these are grandees on a par with Rostov), ​​and after all there were also smaller Lida selmash, Odessa, Saratov plant, Kurgan well somewhere in Central Asia (Kazakhstan or something) and about tractor plants so in general - the whole Ural :))))
  38. -1
    26 March 2015 19: 49
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    erseer
    Judging by my comments, I am a supporter of healthy pragmatism, not social Darwinism and a vulgar understanding of liberalism. Fershtein?

    I disagree. pragmatism from your comments and does not blow.
    so, a set of slogans of the mid-20s - early 30s of the last century.
    1. 0
      26 March 2015 19: 56
      erseer
      Well, if you like, the Social Darwinists are pulling you in a rotten swamp, which for the most part are liberals.
      And experience shows that your activity in the country clearly does not lead to anything positive for 30 years in a row.
  39. -1
    26 March 2015 20: 01
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    erseer
    Well, let's begin, you are our expert ..
    The Spanish disease that struck Spain and ultimately led to the death of the Spanish Empire, a contagious thing, shifted to Russia, the same sore, a bunch of compradors taking everything abroad, leaving crumbs in the country.

    hu out, "spanish disease"? pzhsta decipher, about a smart person.
    pysy: after a decimal place it is accepted to put a space. and then the stream of thoughts, sort of like the right one, resembles the speech of an unconnected, not very smart person.
    and, I beg you, if you insert abstruse words (like "comprador") then, be so kind as to translate them. or a substitute word in Russian. thanks in advance!

    ... the rest is boiled over, for ... (delirium)
    1. -1
      26 March 2015 20: 08
      erseer
      If you have no idea what it is in the world under the designation "Spanish disease" is understood, then what are you trying to chat about?
      Go to school, learn to write competently, without using jargon, but troll, an impolite creature, you will be youngsters on a resource like "VKontakte" available to you in your mind.
      Translation of unfamiliar words, learn vyunyos, take the trouble to find and learn what they mean.
  40. -1
    26 March 2015 20: 10
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    erseer
    Well, let’s start, you are our connoisseur .. nonsense ...

    Have you carefully read what I wrote?
    I'm sure not.
    I wrote somewhere about "I think that Spain or England is nothing"? I didn't write that. ett toko your dotumki. I wrote something about "Germany is the backyard of Europe. The rogue of the world"? did not write.
    so what you say about it?
    1. 0
      26 March 2015 20: 41
      erseer
      Shkolota, change the tone.
  41. -1
    26 March 2015 20: 18
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    erseer
    Well, if you like, the Social Darwinists are pulling you in a rotten swamp, which for the most part are liberals.
    And experience shows that your activity in the country clearly does not lead to anything positive for 30 years in a row.

    how do you know what my activity is in Russia? I didn’t baptize my children (neither my own nor those of others), I didn’t baptize a bottle of "shampoo" on the side of the new ship. I learned about the fact of your presence on this planet absolutely by accident.
    live for concern, but wanted to inquire ...
    and what positive, over the past 30 years, drew from you?
    I promise to share in response, even if I, in your background, get lost.
    1. 0
      26 March 2015 20: 42
      erseer
      There is a common phrase in Russian, indicating the degree of trouble of the opponent, it fully refers to you, until your appearance here ... it didn’t smell.
  42. 0
    26 March 2015 20: 30
    It is good that there is a revival of industry in the Russian Federation. The claim to the government lies precisely in the fact that it is practically inactive, relying only on foreign investors or its own, but on Western loans. To establish a credit system for the necessary industries can not or do not want to? Determine what industries the country needs first and invest in it, having a controlling stake in such industries. Then it would not make sense to apply sanctions to us, if only as political PR. Following the course of the liberal economy led the country into a ravine, from which we get out with material losses. The liberal course is good only under equal conditions for everyone, even for the most seedy African country, and not under the conditions of the dominance of one country, moreover, pursuing a hostile course towards the Russian Federation. And also when all countries obey fair international law, and before that is as far away as from the Earth to the alpha cetaurus of some distant constellation. crying
  43. +1
    26 March 2015 20: 32
    Well, development is on. And now let's imagine how much this development will go at the current pace?
    It is clear that there is some kind of movement. But all this is happening at such a low rate and so unevenly (this situation has been observed for all 15 years of Putin's Russia) that up to an average salary in the country of 50 thousand, you will have to "get off your knees" oh how long.
    After all, are all here patriots-realists-optimists? So do you like this alignment? 50 years to wait until the Far East will be covered by cellular communications ...

    And will capitalism achieve serious results? There are also questions about this. Here you recall the five-year-olds with a kind word, and from the hardworking Chinese army, Russia is getting really anxious at hand.
    These are my thoughts.
  44. -1
    26 March 2015 20: 32
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz

    Quote: vladkavkaz
    erseer
    If you have no idea what it is in the world under the designation "Spanish disease" is understood, then what are you trying to chat about?
    Go to school, learn to write competently, without using jargon, but troll, an impolite creature, you will be youngsters on a resource like "VKontakte" available to you in your mind.
    Translation of unfamiliar words, learn vyunyos, take the trouble to find and learn what they mean.
    when the arguments end, the opponent’s nose shape and his possible age are used.
    The date of my birth is 21.10.1970.
    read about "Spanish flu" yourself: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C8%F1%EF%E0%ED%F1%EA%E8%E9_%E3%F0%E8%EF%EF
    I ask you to compare at least the centuries when "the galleons were carrying gold and silver" and when the "Spanish woman" was drawn.
    pysy: not registered in social networks. not in what.
    Your mind cannot compare with anything ... there is no such scale.
    adjes
    1. 0
      26 March 2015 20: 53
      erseer
      The view is sharp, with a mustard look, incoherent words and slurred speech ...
      "Spanish disease", which has become known to the world since the discovery of America by Columbus.
      The Spaniards, having gained access to the wealth of the new land - mainly gold and silver, instead of using the money to develop their country, began to spend it on the purchase of luxury goods.

      As a result, inflation of unprecedented proportions began in Europe, which, in turn, led to a deterioration in the well-being of the population.
      The "Spanish disease" was also characterized by the high dependence of Spain on its colonies.
      For example, after the British pirates and corsairs sank one of the "golden" squadrons that transported the treasures of the Indians across the Atlantic Ocean, a severe economic crisis began in Spain, affecting all of Europe (in particular, a number of Italian banks, which were the main creditors of the Spanish crown).
      If you do not understand anything in this case, then you are probably struck by the Dutch disease?
      And I hope that French, along with Italian, didn’t hit you? Although there are doubts ..
      1. +1
        26 March 2015 21: 00
        Quote: vladkavkaz
        The "Spanish disease" was also characterized by the high dependence of Spain on its colonies.

        Actually, there are other opinions.
        SYPHILIS - a sexually transmitted disease, manifested by the defeat of all organs and systems of the body. There is an assumption that syphilis was introduced to the European continent by the sailors of the expedition of X. Columbus, who contracted this disease from the native population of the island of Haiti. The first outbreak of S. in Europe, including in Russia, was noted at the end of the 15th century. The disease was described under the names "Spanish disease", "French disease", etc. http://bibliotekar.ru/624-6/37.htm

        Spanish disease
        Жарг. мол. Понос http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/proverbs/12780/%D0%98%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%
        81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F
        1. -2
          26 March 2015 21: 06
          andj61
          The term Spanish disease as applied to fools who whistled a lot of gold for amusement and luxury, instead of modernizing their country, is generally accepted among people involved in the economy, and due to the very syphilis, please, French or Italian disease, as it is called.
          As applied to economics, there is the term DUTCH disease, so if you are not completely at that, then you should not write a comment.

          WHAT is the Dutch disease in view of Russia - "Dutch disease" is a phenomenon typical for industrial countries with hypertrophied raw material exports, when the raw materials industry stifles other industries, and income growth leads to an increase in the exchange rate of the local currency due to the depreciation of foreign exchange ... The disease is exacerbated just with the greatest success, when the price of the export product swells.

          With an abundance of natural resources and, correspondingly, huge incomes from their export, the population may feel a sense of false security and dull attention to such critical elements of economic policy as free trade, the effectiveness of the bureaucratic apparatus, etc.

          Will you challenge?
          1. 0
            26 March 2015 21: 55
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            Will you challenge?

            I won’t. This is difficult to argue with, although syphilis was also called the Spanish disease, and in the late 17th and early 18th centuries it was called French, and in France - Italian.
            I'm talking about something completely different: by categorically declaring only ONE meaning of the term "Spanish disease", you are trying to mix with the mud of your opponent - and he is also right - the flu, influenza was also called the Spanish disease or the Spanish flu. And this is not comme il faut.
            It is necessary to be more tolerant of the opponent, more tolerant.
            1. 0
              26 March 2015 22: 08
              andj61
              Dear, you are a lawyer got a job with a loader who is trying to rudely ineptly posing as something smart?

              If you read from the beginning what it is about, then your statement about the "categorical statement ...." allegedly from my side does not stand up to ANY criticism.

              And finally, don’t try to make me complain about rudeness or mixing up the opponent’s mud, since he seeks it himself by writing here pirouettes of inexpressible literature, intentionally distorting the language.
              1. +1
                26 March 2015 22: 25
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                andj61
                Dear, you are a lawyer got a job with a loader who is trying to rudely ineptly posing as something smart?

                The Lord is with you, I’m not trying to be a lawyer with anyone. Read your mutual pick with erseer - it’s hard to name the dispute as an ioe, try to look at it as an uninterested outside observer - and everything will fall into place.
                1. 0
                  26 March 2015 22: 28
                  andj61
                  Yes, to hell with him, this is a troll, is it really not clear?

                  But this is really interesting.

                  26.03.2015 - 14: 01
                  The Russian Security Council has proposed lowering the level of dollarization of the Russian economy and ensuring transparency in pricing. Recently, Russia, together with China, has been actively working to create conditions that provide the opportunity to abandon the dollar.

                  “Representatives of the scientific community spoke out in favor of lowering the level of dollarization of the Russian economy, for the need to ensure transparency in pricing, and to quickly develop conditions for increasing liquidity and capitalization of the banking system. It is proposed to take measures aimed at improving the monetary policy based on changes in the regulated interest rate depending on the dynamics of inflation, production and the stability of the financial sector, as well as non-inflationary increase in the level of monetization of the Russian economy, ”the Security Council press service said.

                  At Security Council meetings, scientific approaches to improving monetary policy to ensure Russia's national security were examined.

                  The Russian economy faces serious external challenges, one of which is the introduction of economic sanctions, including in the financial field, writes Vesti Ekonomika. Sanctions sharply limited the access of Russian enterprises to the global capital market.

                  “Threats to Russia's economic security are also caused by internal reasons, expressed in the absence of a deep scientific study and the validity of measures taken in the sphere of monetary policy,” the Security Council notes.
                  1. -1
                    27 March 2015 00: 23
                    I see that the "Copy | Paste" technology has been mastered to perfection.
                    Incidentally, I can recall that once (in modern history) the leader of the communists simply gave his victory to EBN. and still wanders. truth and "zhirik" also merged then ...
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                      27 March 2015 19: 31
                      erseer
                      In the next manifestation of stupidity, I do not need, go somewhere else, to another place where gossip, rumors and myths are still believed.
  45. A_A
    A_A
    +1
    26 March 2015 20: 36
    Voronezh region is not all of Russia. That is why we have researchers on how to live well in Russia, do not go somewhere to the non-chernozem outback, do not go to Komi, do not go to the Far East? It is easy to write blessed portraits on the example of Moscow or a regional developed center, there is enough positive there and this positive is true. Only not all, and not even half.
  46. +1
    26 March 2015 20: 44
    we have a lot of plants in Novosibirsk in Novosibirsk ... but sibselmash was a plant, uuuh a big word. there were buses on the routes there. there were more boiler houses, now the boiler boilers are ruined by ten. almost all the buildings have been rented out. D. named after Chikalov, the same huge identity fate.
    and cowsheds with robots, although they need to be maintained, do not have so many jobs. Forgive me, but it’s dust in the eyes.
  47. -1
    26 March 2015 20: 59
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    erseer
    There is common phrase in Russian, indicating the degree of adversity of the opponent, it fully applies to you, - until your appearance here ... it did not smell.

    I understand that in fact there is nothing to say?
    Incidentally, I propose to drive your scribble at least through the word. Well, with the aim of at least calculating the error. although the word only on punctuation can hang. only one ", -" means a lot.
    I, for some, helluva lot "educated" quite a decent splinter.
    :-))
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      26 March 2015 21: 07
      erseer
      Do you often see yourself in the mirror?
      Photo shop, it is slightly out of shape.
  48. -1
    26 March 2015 21: 12
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    erseer
    Do you often see yourself in the mirror?
    Photo shop, it is slightly out of shape.

    Now, I’m going to turn the laptop screen to the copier ...
    question about what?
  49. -1
    26 March 2015 21: 25
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    andj61
    In relation to the economy, there is the term DUTCH disease, so if you are not quite in that, then you should not write a comment.

    WHAT is the Dutch disease in view of Russia - "Dutch disease" is a phenomenon typical for industrial countries with hypertrophied raw material exports, when the raw materials industry stifles other industries, and income growth leads to an increase in the exchange rate of the local currency due to the depreciation of foreign exchange ... The disease is exacerbated just with the greatest success, when the price of the export product swells.

    With an abundance of natural resources and, correspondingly, huge incomes from their export, the population may feel a sense of false security and dull attention to such critical elements of economic policy as free trade, the effectiveness of the bureaucratic apparatus, etc.

    Will you challenge?

    about the term "Spanish disease" I gave you a link.
    and this is what is called "in general".
    as applied to you, judging by everything, a successful economist, the rest of society, I think, far from it.
    When you are promoting the interpretation of a phrase of a rather narrow layer of specialists, have the conscience to at least refer to an explanation. rather than referring to the type: this is "everyone knows".
    I understand that my proposal is stupid to challenge
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      26 March 2015 21: 31
      erseer
      You may give something to someone, but you can’t flash it, it’s obviously impossible for you, calm down, find yourself an object for trolling according to your mind and abilities.
      You are not interesting.
      And if you are not able to assimilate the text, take a magnifying glass, read on a new one and so on until complete assimilation.
  50. -1
    26 March 2015 21: 40
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    erseer
    You may give something to someone, but you can’t flash it, it’s obviously impossible for you, calm down, find yourself an object for trolling according to your mind and abilities.
    You are not interesting.
    And if you are not able to assimilate the text, take a magnifying glass, read on a new one and so on until complete assimilation.

    if I'm not interested then be consistent, ignore me.
    I then "umchshchem" did not come out.
    and it’s not from the hands of a troll of a higher level to pay less attention to a lower one. in short, with God, wretchedly-near-uneducated ...
    So, for statistics, is it a good year for you? if not a secret of course.
    By the way, the "minus" button is just a relation to the comment, and does not affect anything :-)
    nasty enough :-))
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      26 March 2015 21: 55
      erseer
      Give a magnifier?
  51. +1
    26 March 2015 21: 55
    Quote: Minus
    I fully support the opinion. My sister lives in Sands. She talked about how Moscow dealers bought a flour mill, what kind of policy they are pursuing .... Everything is bought up by visitors on the ground. There are few advantages for the local population. Profit goes in an unknown direction ...

    The main thing is that all this has already been built and is working. And the owners, if they don’t come up with a muzzle, can be squeezed out gradually. Foreign investors are still screaming that business in Russia is not civilized - we are already designated as bad anyway - we will not dissuade them from this. In war, all means are good.
  52. -1
    26 March 2015 21: 56
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    erseer
    Give a magnifier?

    Has yours dried up?
  53. -1
    26 March 2015 22: 33
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    andj61
    Yes, to hell with him, this is a troll, is it really not clear?

    wonderful, wonderful, maybe you can answer my questions?
    and after that we’ll figure out who the troll is
  54. +3
    26 March 2015 22: 47
    No one will convince me that foreign investors will work for the benefit of Russia. And I don’t understand why our rulers keep their finances abroad and don’t invest them in the economy. And to be honest, I’m very tired of hearing about a favorable climate for Western investors.
  55. 0
    26 March 2015 23: 54
    stuck about “ours can’t do anything”, “we won’t succeed in anything”...
    From my bell tower I will say this:
    1. “ours” can, just remember the so-called “industrialization” - in 15 years they built 40 hydroelectric power plants.
    Hundreds of factories were built.
    2. “We won’t succeed in anything” - see point 1. the grandfathers were able to do it, the fathers continued.
    our country and our people in the 20s, 30s, 60s and 70s were able to do something that no one could imagine.
    Now sanctions have been imposed on us.
    I will say - THANK YOU SO MUCH!
    statistics in my office:
    September - 1 (as a starting point)
    October - +70% to September
    November - 100% to September
    December - 134% compared to September
    January - 90% of September (two weeks of holidays did the trick)
    February - 114% compared to September
    March - 118% compared to September
    forecast for April - 110-120% by September.
    someone will say that “the ruble has fallen against the dollar”... but I don’t care.
    We have everything of our own. well, almost everything - as I understand it, the dependence on consumables is 1,18% and this is really almost nothing, and we are still working on replacement - in half a year we will reduce the dependence to zero.
    Yesterday we agreed to expand the workshop from 340 m2 to 900 m2 (the height of the workshop is also twice as high).
    If anyone thinks that the office is engaged in crap, then he will think so in vain. Quite a high-tech production. at least Americans, Germans, Japanese and Koreans smoke hookah.
    Not a single foreign company was able to combine in its products everything that we managed: 12 years of work were not in vain (if there was serious funding, these 12 years could be compressed to a year or a year and a half, maximum).
    I crumple, and my wallet is happy with our production - let's get more sanctions!!
    Pysy: we work only in “white”. even dividend payments are made through the bank.
  56. 0
    27 March 2015 03: 05
    Sitting with a soft butt on the bare ground will not give you good thoughts... You should not look for freebies, but plow, plow and plow...
  57. 0
    27 March 2015 05: 07
    To understand whether Russia is good or bad, you need to take a train and travel along the Moscow-Vladivostok line. The eyes will open to devastation, the likes of which have not been seen since 1945...
  58. 0
    27 March 2015 12: 01
    good article, Roman, as usual, is on top, keeping his mark. thank you, oh interesting material.

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