Underwater lighting systems. Current issues and press disputes

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In late February, a board meeting of the Ministry of Defense was held, dedicated to the security of the Arctic borders of the country. During this event, the heads of the military department headed by Minister Sergei Shoigu discussed various aspects of the development of the armed forces group in the Arctic and the necessary measures to ensure the security of this region. It is planned to build military camps, rebuild airfields and build new facilities. In addition, several new systems of strategic importance to the country's security are to be deployed in the Arctic.

Underwater lighting systems. Current issues and press disputes


In addition to new military facilities in the northern regions of the country, components of the Unified Arctic Lighting System should appear. Using this system, it is planned to monitor the air, surface and underwater conditions, which will allow timely notice of emerging threats and take the necessary measures. One of the main elements of the new complex should be the so-called. The Unified State System for Lighting of the Surface and Underwater Conditions (EGSSONPO), which will work in the interests of the naval fleet. Its main task will be to collect information about the situation in the northern seas, as well as search for various ships, submarines and other potentially dangerous objects.

It should be noted that the development of EGSONPO started a long time ago - the corresponding order appeared at the beginning of the two thousandth years. However, to date, only some individual elements of such a system have been created, and the beginning of the operation of a full-fledged complex still belongs to the foreseeable future. Such features of the project can not but cause concern of the military department, specialists and the interested public. In recent weeks, the national press has even developed a real discussion on the prospects for monitoring the Arctic.

11 February, the newspaper “Military Industrial Courier” published an article “Homeless Arctic” authored by Rear Admiral of the Institute Atoll, Rear Admiral Sergei Zhandarov. In this publication, S. Zhandarov once again raised the issue of building a system for tracking the situation on the seas surrounding Russia. Earlier, the reserve rear admiral repeatedly addressed this problem: in recent years he has published several articles that revealed the features of the current situation and made certain proposals.

The author began his article “Stray Arctic” with a reminder that the construction of EGSONPO was set by the document “Fundamentals of the Russian Federation policy in the field of naval activities before 2010 of the year” adopted by 15 years ago - 4 of March 2000 of the year. The deadlines indicated in the “Fundamentals of Politics” ended several years ago, but Russia still does not have an EGSONPO defending the northern borders. Currently, work is carried out in accordance with the Strategy for the Development of the Maritime Activity of the Russian Federation before the 2030 Year, adopted at the end of the 2010 year.

S. Zhandarov recalls that the “Strategy” clearly indicates the goals and deadlines for the implementation of the EGSONPO construction project. Thus, the Unified System should cover with its equipment the exclusive economic zone of the country. At the same time, by the year 2012 it was necessary to “close” the Arctic direction by 30%, and by 2020 - by 50%.

Currently, in order to protect the northern borders of the country, the Ministry of Defense is engaged in several projects related to the restoration of existing and construction of new facilities in the Arctic. The main work in this direction is planned to be completed by the end of this year. In addition, a joint strategic command has already been formed, which will be responsible for the actions of the troops in this area, and exercises are being held with the landing of troops on the ice.

In parallel, recalls S. Zhandarov, funding is allocated for the design work. Thus, the federal target program “Development of OPK-2020” for the period 2011-2014 provided for 3,2 a billion rubles to organize the groundwork for the creation of an integrated network-centric underwater observation system. However, such a system still does not exist and does not monitor the situation in a strategically important area.

The author of the publication "Stray Arctic" recalls that from 2000 to 2013, the year in our country was developed and put into service one stationary hydroacoustic complex. However, this system has not yet been installed, and instead of these works, according to S. Zhandarov, the officials of the Ministry of Defense prefer to open new projects, design and development and research.

Illustrating the complexity of the situation, the Rear Admiral of the reserve recalls the events of the past year. According to him, from February 11 to 13, the American submarine USS New Hampshire (SSN 778) monitored the Russian ships in the Barents Sea and revealed the Northern Fleet's strategic containment.

In conclusion of his article, S. Zhandarov noted that for reasons of secrecy he has no right to disclose all the details of the current situation. Nevertheless, he believes that this should be done, since the reports to the military and political leadership of the country have not yet been heard.

The article “Homeless Arctic” by S. Zhandarova raises a major problem: despite several years of work and solid funding, the program to build the Unified State System for Lighting Surface and Underwater Situations is far from complete. Some successes have already been achieved, but construction must continue for quite a long time.

It should be noted that in the discussions of the article there are different opinions, from the full support of the author to suspicions of bad intentions. Since S. Zhandarov is one of the leaders of the Atoll Research Institute, which develops various systems for the fleet, he is accused of lobbying the interests of his organization and trying to "knock out" a new order for his institute. Nevertheless, one should not forget that in the defense industry the interests of individual enterprises often coincide with the interests of the state in the field of security. In addition, S. Zhandarov, suspected of lobbying, raises an important issue directly related to the security of strategically important regions.

Exactly one month after the “Homeless Arctic”, the newspaper “Military Industrial Courier” published a new material on the development of surveillance systems in the northern regions. The reason for writing a new article "Hydroacoustic sadness" for the authorship of Maxim Klimov, allegedly, was the publication of S. Zhandarov. M. Klimov indicated his agreement with S. Zhandarov on the importance and severity of existing problems, but noted that the content of his article and the proposed solutions to the problem can be argued.

M. Klimov recalled that the technical level of Okepribor OJSC, which is the main developer of new hydroacoustic systems, as well as other enterprises in the industry, is quite high. There is no serious gap in quality between domestic and foreign developments. Nevertheless, Russian specialists are lagging behind their foreign counterparts in the ideology and concept of building hydro-acoustic complexes, which accordingly affects the combat qualities of their developments.

M. Klimov believes that the responsible persons understand the situation and take measures to get out of it. Nevertheless, the course of work and the characteristics of new systems are still affected by negative factors in the form of the problems of the past decades and the late start of attempts to rectify the situation. In addition, the author of the article “Hydroacoustic Sadness” recalled the difference in the methods of project management. Thus, foreign developers conducted large-scale studies, as well as engaged in full-scale testing of new systems, including the involvement of entire ship groups. As a result, foreign experts managed to find the most convenient and sophisticated technical solutions that were later used in practice. For obvious reasons, Russian engineers now cannot use this approach.

The article “Hydroacoustic sorrow” also mentions other features of foreign developments. So, in the fifties of the last century, the United States began the deployment of a strategic underwater lighting system (FOSS) called SOSUS. The various components of this system, distributed across the oceans, made it possible to search for enemy submarines with great efficiency. In the sixties, the US Navy mastered the operation of SOSUS together with a patrol aviation, surface ships and other equipment equipped with sonar systems, which increased the efficiency of the search tasks. Finally, in the eighties, the SURTASS system was built, based on new ideas. The main difference from SOSUS was the creation of a continuous zone of hydroacoustic lighting in the right areas, which are of great importance from the point of view of strategy.

Such an idea, tested in practice and confirmed its advantages, has not yet become widespread among the responsible persons of Russia. Here M. Klimov points to the problems of ideas promoted by S. Zhandarov, namely his proposals for using an upgraded version of the IGC-608 complex or similar systems. According to M. Klimov, such ideas, despite the existing progress, more resemble the SOSUS system than the more modern FOSS. For these reasons, the outdated ideology of the complex should have an impact on the combat capabilities of the complex, including on combat stability. When using modern search tools, the proposed complex can be “neutralized” by detecting and destroying some of its elements.

In addition, M. Klimov strongly disagrees with S. Zhandarov on the feasibility of creating new FOSS on the network-centric principle. He believes that it is this architecture that is capable of creating a highly efficient, stable and relatively inexpensive system. High priority is given to the use of standardized components with an acceptable cost. M. Klimov also proposes in some cases to sacrifice the characteristics of the complex in favor of saving budget funds.

In the matter of organizing underwater lighting systems, there is a specific problem related to the detection of targets and the transfer of information. For certain reasons, a single submarine, discovered using sonar complexes, accounts for a number of objects that are not enemy equipment. Thus, the information collected in full must be processed at the fleet level in order to identify and attack real targets. In addition, this should be followed by the release of information to the National Center for Defense Management, which should receive information only about real targets. It is also necessary to create an integrated FOSS, which will include both stationary systems and hydroacoustic complexes of ships, submarines or anti-submarine aircraft.

Unfortunately, several proposals concerning the introduction of new ideas, including those “peeped” in foreign developments, have not yet come to consideration. The defense industry and fleet command abandoned these ideas for organizational reasons. So, M. Klimov recalls the proposal to test the Irbis hydroacoustic complex, installed on the Nerpa submarine with illumination from external emitters. This proposal was not implemented due to the negative reaction of the management of the Amur Shipbuilding Plant.

M. Klimov refers to the article “Are there modern sonar weapons in Russia?” By well-known hydroacoustics specialists Valentin and Viktor Leksin. They wrote that to create an EGSONPO, modern, efficient and non-unmasking equipment is needed. At the same time, however, the fulfillment of the military requirements for 2020 is impossible when using only hydroacoustic complexes of submarines and similar stationary accommodation systems, since their number is limited and affects the combat capabilities of the entire FOSS. Lexins believe that a promising underwater lighting system should be built on the basis of compact passive stationary sonar systems with a network of remote receivers suitable for rapid deployment in the desired area.

Such an FOSS architecture imposes the corresponding requirements on the equipment used. For example, the main "raw material" for the construction of such a system may become radio acoustic buoys. In addition, small equipment is required that is easy to maintain and repair. Thus, to create highly efficient underwater lighting systems, it is necessary to use integrated circuits and other small-sized equipment. In this area there is a big lag behind foreign developments, which is required to be considered when creating new systems.

On the whole, M. Klimov agrees with Lexins, however, he believes that modern FOSS needs not only passive, but also active mode, i.e. sonar. Such a regime can improve the characteristics of the system, as well as ensure the use of the hydroacoustic complex for other purposes, for example, for sound-guided communication. In addition, sonar is an effective tool for detecting targets in a combat environment.

The publication Hydroacoustic Grief also addresses a specific issue related to FOSS support systems. According to M. Klimov, one should reject the idea of ​​installing sonar systems using special cable vessels or underwater lighting ships. Such vessels can be detected and identified by the enemy, after which the destruction of the hydroacoustic complex becomes not too complicated.

Therefore, the navy needs a number of appropriate equipment and special equipment. Thus, in the installation of FOSS, the surface fleet can be represented by corvettes of the protection of water areas with a set of special equipment, with the help of which they will be able to install the necessary equipment or use various uninhabited and non-crewed vehicles. Submarines, in turn, can be equipped with special containers for transportation and installation of FOSS elements.

According to M. Klimov, remotely controlled equipment is of great interest in the context of EGSONPO and FOSS. Unmanned underwater or unmanned surface vehicles can be used for various purposes, including as carriers of a low-frequency radiator, which will work in conjunction with the ship's sonar system or submarine carrier. Due to the possibility of remotely controlled technology to the optimum position, you can increase the range or depth of target detection, as well as increase the system's resistance to interference.

From the two articles, “Stray Arctic” and “Hydroacoustic Grief”, it follows that our country has quite serious problems with the construction of new surveillance systems for underwater and surface situations. However, there are some developments in this direction. On the basis of existing ideas and projects, some of which, for obvious reasons, are classified, in the foreseeable future, the construction of EGSONPO, set by the current “Development Strategy of the Maritime Activity of the Russian Federation to 2020 of the Year”, will continue. At the same time, during the development of new systems, it is necessary to use not only existing own developments, but also time-tested ideas borrowed from foreign projects.

The current situation around EGSONPO in general and prospective FOSS in particular has one curious feature. The most important topic in the context of protecting the northern frontiers is discussed by experts not only in the closed regime, but also in the press. In this way, it is possible to draw public attention to existing problems, as well as start a full-scale discussion with the participation of a wide range of competent individuals. The result of this should be the formation of a full-fledged appearance of promising systems that fully meet the requirements of the customer and are almost free from any shortcomings. Nevertheless, the program of construction of EGSONPO in the Arctic is far from complete. Scientists, designers and the military will have to make considerable efforts to complete all the necessary work and build a modern system for detecting enemy ships and submarines.


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  1. -2
    25 March 2015 10: 54
    Now it’s clear why the ruble collapsed in 2 times. Tfu tfu, before the war on the defense industry, money is needed in the budget.
    1. +1
      25 March 2015 12: 06
      And what is the relationship between the collapse of the ruble and the need to allocate funding for the defense industry, do not explain?
      1. +4
        25 March 2015 13: 34
        The only area in which more than 90% of import substitution has passed is the military-industrial complex. All products and costs are in rubles. The government sees that the economic conditions are difficult, and the situation is extremely dangerous - the defense industry must be maintained! An "unpopular" decision is made: it is necessary to compensate for the losses from a 40% drop in oil prices - to devalue the ruble by 40%. Remember, all economists shouted that the ruble exchange rate depends on the oil price only by 25%. Right. Another 15% is needed to compensate for losses in planned areas, such as the military-industrial complex. The military-industrial complex primarily benefits from this, since all domestic production is for rubles, and the sale of exports for the euro and dollar. Therefore, this decision is very reasonable and correct, although it led to inflation. But inflation in this case is a payment for the state's sovereignty. So first figure it out, and then put the minuses in the comment.
      2. 0
        25 March 2015 16: 35
        Quote: Alexander72
        And what is the relationship between the collapse of the ruble and the need to allocate funding for the defense industry, do not explain?

        Reducing the financing of the defense industry, namely rearmament, they already say by 2020, not 50 planes will be purchased by PakFa, but 12 ...
        1. jjj
          +1
          26 March 2015 00: 17
          Ruble devaluation did not increase money supply
    2. +1
      25 March 2015 19: 14
      Quote: AGAIN
      Tfu tfu, before the war on the defense industry, money is needed in the budget.
      Everyone says that we need more. But no one is willing to sacrifice their 10-30% of income. And screaming off the couch is all over.
      I don't understand why you got minus. The methods are, to put it mildly, unpopular for the population. But besides the banal replenishment of the state moneybox, part of the property was returned to Russia, the internal circulation of the damned gray-green piece of paper decreased (although there are still 6apans who run after it "like a dumb with a stupa"). But the "exceptional" by the end of January quickly came to their senses. Something is wrong. Oil prices began to rise (well, they nafig, our wells in Texas are being closed), for gold (these Russians bought so much gold for a cheap price), the non-grip began to rush around the planet with "friendship" (China, India, Cuba) (eh , I started late - Putin has already visited everywhere). Surely, our "crisis" has more positive sides for the State! And the negative pissemists will now write below.
      You can find fault with the government, with Putin, with his "hangers-on friends" ... But we all here stand up for the Motherland, shout "more submarines", "more T-50", "more Armat" ... And no one voluntarily does not wants to back these calls with "his own blood". Nobody has proposed a really working scheme for "sponsoring" the defense industry complex by the population. And our leaders (YES! YES! And whom you sympathize with and whom you hate. They REALLY work TOGETHER) invented and implemented. For which I respect and thank them. Although I am more grateful to all the people of the Russian Federation.
      So, "We try" you wrote the truth, no matter how good or bad it was. And you give him a minus ...

      Threat. Something brought me ... And it all started with the detection network lol and ends, as always, with finances.
      1. +2
        25 March 2015 20: 23
        Quote: Speciolist on harp
        And it all started with the hydro ...
        I apologize: this is not a case about the sewage system ... well, the one who is called in the common people a water pipe? No?
        Then probably it is! laughing
  2. +1
    25 March 2015 11: 53
    From February to August, then? "Comrades" have already lost my fear, I look. What a pity that the first Ash-M will not see water before the 16-17 Christmas tree, oh, what a pity ...
    1. 0
      25 March 2015 15: 25
      Quote: Anton Gavrilov
      From February to August, then? "Comrades" have already lost my fear, I look. What a pity that the first Ash-M will not see water before the 16-17 Christmas tree, oh, what a pity ...

      It is necessary to increase the shift factor at the plant, introduce the 3rd shift. Let them build Ash trees around the clock.
      1. 0
        25 March 2015 19: 48
        There, and so in some places, almost a day on the fly they work for the small salary, so let it be better to go less physically.
  3. 0
    25 March 2015 15: 52
    "USS New Hampshire (SSN 778) tracked Russian ships in the Barents Sea and uncovered strategic containment activities of the Northern Fleet." So they sat in a puddle. How many times have they talked about the fact that it is necessary to finally build multipurpose submarines in the amount of at least 30 pieces, and coastal underwater stationary trackers, but our admirals know better. Ugh, there is no anger at the admirals ... You can say they took them with their pants down ...
    I have been familiar with admiral's hobbies for a long time, as our ship is invited on a friendly visit to a foreign port, for example, San Francisco, so it’s sure that a couple of admirals will fit in. Although they are by no means sideways in the full-time crew of the ship.
    1. 0
      25 March 2015 16: 08
      ... Apparently, they go for shopping and excursions on warships, the poor are hungry abroad, so no one will go on a tour, at least so to see the world .... The last honest and correct admiral was Chernavin.
    2. +2
      25 March 2015 22: 52
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      "USS New Hampshire (SSN 778) tracked Russian ships in the Barents Sea and uncovered strategic containment activities of the Northern Fleet." So they sat in a puddle.

      What's so supernatural? It is peacetime now, and therefore she can walk wherever she wants, naturally observing the tervods and the no swimming zones. What to do with it? Drown? So now is peacetime - no one shoots at each other. And everyone who needed, or just interested, knew about her release and knew where she had gone. Personally, I have her that military service noted in the summary for February 26, 2014. Since then, her BS has been constantly monitored. And if I knew where she was, then the command of the Northern Fleet also knew that "SSN-778" was in their area. So the American woman had no secrecy at all. If there was a war, it would be met in the most appropriate way. Since knowing when and where it is, you can clearly predict the areas where it is going and when and where it will come. And so she walked and walked. Nobody will drown it. How else to drive her out? No way. So no one got into a puddle. These are professional naval sailors who again boast of their ignorance.
      1. jjj
        +1
        26 March 2015 00: 20
        To drown someone else’s nuclear boat in their waters can hardly be considered a useful thing
        1. 0
          26 March 2015 09: 35
          Quote: jjj
          To drown someone else’s nuclear boat in their waters can hardly be considered a useful thing

          From 1950 to 1990, the USSR shot down 50 NATO planes that invaded the territory of the USSR. With submarines it was necessary to do the same when invading our waters, to drown with rocket-torpedoes and depth charges so that it wasn’t bad.
          1. 0
            26 March 2015 11: 48
            SSN-778 was not included in our thermal guides.
    3. 0
      25 March 2015 23: 32
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      that you finally need to build multipurpose submarines in the amount of at least 30 pieces, and coastal underwater stationary tracking means, but our admirals know better.


      Yes, I agree, atomarins are in the north, and some kind of system like amerovskoy "sosus" is probably the second priority after RVSN - as a component of syas

      In the same place, in fact, it is not necessary to "close to Kamchatka" - at least to build a system to see and hear Amerov's strategists within a thousand and a half thousand kilometers from the coast - in order not to let them closer and increase the flight time to Moscow and the central regions

      In general, the centers are not very well located - too close to Europe and the ocean

      In the future, it would be nice to transfer everything that is possible to Kazan, Novosibirsk (and the capital of the EAEU, as our NAS proposed to Astana)
  4. +2
    25 March 2015 18: 14
    Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
    So they sat in a puddle. How many times have they said that it is finally necessary to build multipurpose submarines in the amount of at least 30 units, and coastal underwater stationary tracking means

    Admirals are more stupid than the Air Force lieutenant, that's for sure ... But here's the money ... where to get the money for these 30 multi-purpose submarines? Maybe tell me the wisest?
    1. +1
      25 March 2015 19: 37
      Quote: Zigmars
      Admirals are more stupid than the Air Force lieutenant, that's for sure ... But here's the money ... where to get the money for these 30 multi-purpose submarines? Maybe tell me the wisest?

      You know, as far as civil airlines are concerned, you will laugh, but this is so, a young graduate of the school is more scrupulous and more responsible, a pilot with 40 years of experience. He constantly has 100% concentration at the helm, and experienced pilots, as a rule, already feel more free, more arrogant, and the probability of making a mistake is greater. Another analogy with drivers, look at the graduates of driving schools who hold the steering wheel with both hands, the concentration of attention is prohibitive, the pulse is under 100 beats. And the so-called "experienced", who hold the steering wheel with one hand, and sometimes with two fingers.
      I have already suggested 100 times where to get the money !!!!
      1) It was necessary to initially put before the shipyards a plan for the construction of ships how much one submarine should cost, and accordingly, the shipyards should adapt to this plan and look for savings, this could be unification, modularity, etc. etc.
      2) There is money for re-equipment, you just need to set priorities correctly, large-scale production if you did not know it reduces costs, and subsequent boats should cost less.
      3) When the war begins and the enemy knocks on the door, will you also explain to him that there was no money for construction and modernization ?. Survival is above all. In the USSR, the leadership understood this, but the population unfortunately did not understand all this. It is better not to have a jeans and chewing gum tape than to have them and be dead. It doesn’t matter what your wealth is, a car in a garage and how many apartments and millions in a bank, before the war everyone is equal, rich and poor.
      And what do you wonder at admirals are taught to command ship formations during military operations, and not to engage in economic planning and production, this should be done by other people. In America, in this regard, there are the right ministers of the armed forces (minister of the navy, land forces, etc., etc.) who are involved in planning and construction, and there are commanders-in-chief of the navy, air forces, etc., etc. who are doing their job, namely the command.
      1. jjj
        0
        26 March 2015 00: 25
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        A young graduate of the school is more thorough and responsible, a pilot with 40 summer experience.

        But for some reason, young people are not immediately introduced to FAC, and their minimums are not to the maximum.
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        large-scale production if you did not know reduces costs, and subsequent boats should cost less

        Absolutely not a fact. Here, let's say, the fleet’s requirement for the 885 project hulls - each new one must be more perfect than its predecessor. And not on the assembly line of the boat.
        1. 0
          26 March 2015 09: 29
          Quote: jjj
          But for some reason, young people are not immediately introduced to FAC, and their minimums are not to the maximum.

          Because young people always start with second roles always. In addition, the younger generation of pilots trusts computers more, and not their instincts and feelings like the old, it is just as important, because in the event of a conflict situation it can cost a living. At least recall the situation when the pilots did not believe the computer alarm about the approach of the earth, and broke themselves together with the passengers. This is all in the mentality of the pilots of the young and old generation. Young people are brought up in the spirit that the computer controls the aircraft, and the pilot as the controller, and the old one that automation helps a person control the aircraft and nothing more. Many of the so-called experienced pilots of the old generation started as navigators or flight mechanics, then retrained as pilots, which means that already in adulthood they fell behind the helm, of these 40 years, he may have been 30 years as a flight mechanic or navigator. In addition, even when airplanes with a high degree of piloting automation appeared, pilots still did not use them and piloted the plane in manual mode, so that there would be piloting practice.
          Quote: jjj
          Absolutely not a fact. Here, let's say, the fleet’s requirement for the 885 project hulls - each new one must be more perfect than its predecessor. And not on the assembly line of the boat.

          And who spoke about Ash? This is about ensuring safety in coastal areas, which means that a diesel submarine is enough. Why aren’t they building a big lot? They are easier to build than nuclear submarines. There we are riveting Warsaw women in large quantities for export and everything is fine with the deadlines, but as for our orders, plants always pull rubber here. Maybe they are more profitable to build for export than for their own?
  5. 0
    25 March 2015 19: 49
    but NOW you can and ask .. WHERE IS ZIN MONEY?
    isolated .. sort of like YES. but there is NO result .. FOR THIS SHOOT IS NECESSARY!
  6. +2
    25 March 2015 20: 52
    Good evening, colleagues! For some reason, everyone was obsessed with sonar detection and illumination of the underwater environment. But there are others besides this. without revealing the essence I will name the topics: window, loop, orion, undine ..
    Space offers a lot of interesting things. Therefore, it would probably be more correct to talk about an integrated approach (network-centric system) to solving this problem. And of course, infrasound.
    A separate topic is long-range G / A surveillance ships. At one time they spoke a lot about submarines of long-range g / a observation of the military-industrial complex.
    But our views (traditional!) Do not go beyond this:
    "The problem can be solved most fully and reliably using an integrated HIF system, which should consist of the following components:
    basic stationary active-passive sonar systems based on:
    1. long antenna systems and autonomous positional and boundary subsystems such as bottom and anchor sonar stations and buoys installed in a given area and transmitting information via radio channels or cable communication systems;
    2. maneuvering means, including:
    - ships with telescoping and towed sonar stations and complexes;
    - helicopters with helicopter sonar stations lowering the antenna to the calculated depth.
    All data is received by coastal or mobile posts and transmitted to the central post for collecting and processing information. "Http://www.oborona.ru/includes
    Igor Korotchenko believes that the prospects for modern underwater surveillance systems are not bad:
    "At the Innovation Day of the Ministry of Defense, a number of developments of specialized civil institutions were presented, which offer, among other things, acoustic and non-acoustic methods of detecting submarines of a potential enemy. These developments will be in full demand. With regard to the Arctic, another element of control will be the use of modern nuclear submarines of the Severodvinsk class (project 885 Yasen), which will also be able to control foreign activity in the region. "
    If we seriously decided to deal with the Arctic, then we cannot get away from solving this problem. We'll have to create a regional FOSS. We are driven to this by plans to use the submarines of our "sworn partners". The scheme is real and clickable.
    1. 0
      25 March 2015 23: 37
      The question is so complex that there’s nothing to even compare with. What is needed is truly non-trivial approaches to search for detection techniques And simultaneous identification of underwater objects: detecting is not enough. You can detect, for example, by creating flows of bubbles from the bottom every 10 m: where they found a violation of the typical pattern of the appearance of bubbles on the surface from the air, it means a boat or a school of fish. Information is not complete ... Whose boat? Or maybe a jamb? Or killer whale? Identification is needed, and this is orders of magnitude more complicated.
  7. -2
    25 March 2015 21: 57
    The constrictor is right to impossibility!
  8. -1
    April 15 2015 18: 39
    article without editorial revision (MIC) and illiterate "rehash" Ryabov - http://otvaga2004.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=458&p=8#p519971
  9. 0
    April 9 2018 01: 52
    Dear commentators, what is useful for my country RUSSIA in your "Reasoning"? One useless chatter - no more !!!
    Back in 1976, I defended my diploma (on a specific topic) and I know how to determine the location of any submarine (especially a submarine). Sorry, but I will not give the principle and methodology to you here and do not want to. Given the development of modern communication systems and the GLONASS system, a unique opportunity has now arisen - to have a complete picture, in real time, of the location of all underwater vehicles on the globe (estimated accuracy up to 1 km, and at depths up to 1300 m). Of course, I made the calculations from publicly available data. Financial costs ?, - yes they will, (project, technology, manufacturing, testing, possible improvements and launching in a series - 1 year period). It is important that tests of the experimental system can begin within a month.
    I wish you all good health and the application of your knowledge for the benefit of RUSSIA !!!

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