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At the IDEX 2015, Hyundai Rotem showed a model of its new main battle tank K2 Black Panther.

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South Korean industry giant Hyundai Rotem showed off a mockup of its new primary combat tank (MBT) K2 Black Panther at IDEX 2015 held in February 2015 in the United Arab Emirates. The company sees the Middle East and Africa as potential buyers of its new tank.




New South Korean tank K2 Black Panther

In December, 2014, the Korean industrial giant Hyundai Rotem Co, signed a contract worth 820,29 million dollars with the Office of Defense Procurement for the supply of MBT K2 to the South Korean army. It is assumed that the initial order will consist of 100 tanks with subsequent orders for the supply of more 400 tanks.

K2 will be the main battle tank with an “ideal concept” that will maximize combat effectiveness and optimize the human-machine interface. It is distinguished by a modern cannon with lethal firepower, a compact high-power diesel power unit for excellent maneuverability, modern armor and an active defense system for increased survivability, combat information and control system, onboard electronics and excellent fire capabilities, etc.

The K2 Black Panther MBT has a crew of three crew members, including the commander, gunner and driver. The main armament consists of an X / NUMX-mm smoothbore L / 120 cannon with an automatic loading mechanism. Automatic loader provides loading ammunition in motion, even when the tank is moving on an uneven surface. The 55-mm gun can fire at approximately 120 shots per minute. Additional weapons include an 10-mm coaxial machine gun and one 7,62-mm machine gun mounted on the turret roof.

MBT K2 equipped with composite armor and dynamic protection units. The complex of active protection installed on the tank protects against anti-tank guided and unguided missiles.

At the IDEX 2015, Hyundai Rotem showed a model of its new main battle tank K2 Black Panther.

New Turkish tank Altay

The K2 Black Panther tank was also chosen by the Turkish Ministry of Defense as the base for the local Altay MBT.

Altay is a modern third generation main battle tank designed and developed by the Turkish company Otokar for the Turkish army and foreign markets.

To date, the first prototype of the Altay tank has already passed during tests over 2000 kilometers. At the OTOKAR tank training ground, two prototypes showed a special presentation to the guests of the ceremony. During this show, the running characteristics of the ALTAY tank, for example, acceleration, maximum speed, side ramp, suspension work on a section with rabbings, off-road driving, were demonstrated. At the end of the show, the guests had the impression that after the completion of the development, the tank could become the most modern tank in the world.

The main armament of the Altay tank is an 120-mm smoothbore 55 caliber cannon firing various types of projectiles. The Turkish company MKE was identified as a manufacturer of 120-mm / 55 caliber guns as part of technology transfer from the South Korean company Hyundai Rotem.

Description

The K2 Black Panther is the main battle tank of the new generation MBT, designed and manufactured by the South Korean company Hyundai Rotem. K2 was first shown to the public at the Defense Exhibition ADEX in South Korea in October 2009 of the year. This new tank can replace the K1 tank and other obsolete MBTs, which are in service with the South Korean army. Korean company Hyundai Rotem has signed a contract for the supply of an unspecified number (probably 29) of K2014 (Black Panther) tanks for the South Korean army on 100 on December 2. Currently, production of the K2 MBT is under way, and according to the schedule, the tanks will be delivered from the middle of 2015 of the year to December of 2017. Basically, the Altay Turkish-made battle tank uses systems developed by Hyundai Rotem for the K2 MBT. Altay will have higher chassis performance than K2 Black Panther MBT. It will have a Turkish tower with a modified design and a higher level of booking compared to K2. In September 2013, South Korea submitted an application with the K2 Black Panther to participate in a competition for a promising Peruvian tank.

The options are:

K2 PIP. In the next few years, an improved version of the K2 tank will be released from the pre-production lot. The following improvements will be implemented:
- Modernization of semi-active suspension units to active suspension units
- Integration of the high-resolution terrain scanning system into the vehicle's suspension system. This will allow the car to “pre-plan suspension behavior” by scanning the nearest terrain at a distance of up to 50 meters in all directions and calculate the optimal position of the undercarriage in order to increase the terrain even on uneven terrain.
- Integration of active defense anti-missile system.
- Installation of non-explosion type DZ units (NERA).
- Theoretically, the replacement of the 120-m gun L55 electrothermal-chemical gun, which will significantly increase the firepower and useful capacity of the machine.

TECH SPECS
weaponry


The main armament of the K2 Black Panther tank is an 120-mm smoothbore L55 cannon, manufactured under license from the German company Rheinmetall in South Korea. The gun has an automatic loader that provides charging even while driving on an uneven surface. The 120-mm gun has a firing rate of up to 10 rounds per minute. Having the ammunition onboard the 40 of different types of shots, the Black Panther tank can “arrange the fire hell” for enemy positions for almost three minutes before it is necessary to replenish the ammunition. In the automatic loader in the body is placed the entire 16 shots and 24 shots. K2 tank can fire a variety of ammunition from the gun, including, but not limited to, improved armor-piercing discarding sabot projectile with a tungsten core of local development and improvements that have significantly better broneprobivanie compared with tungsten projectiles of the previous generation, as well as universal cumulative antitank projectiles (HEAT ) like the American M830A1 HEAT MP-T, which can be used against personnel, unarmored and lightly armored vehicles on ground and low-flying helicopters. Paired 7,62 – mm machine gun mounted to the left of the main gun. The 12,7-mm heavy machine gun K-6 is mounted on the roof of the turret on the right. On each side, in the front of the tower, smoke grenade launchers in the visible and infrared spectra (VIRSS) are installed, which also increases the defensive level of the Black Panther tank.

Construction and protection

The layout of the K2 tank is traditional, the driver’s compartment in front, the fighting compartment in the middle and the power block in the stern. Protection Black Panther consists of composite armor of an unknown type and an active protection system in which DZ blocks are used. The K2 tank has a crew of three: the driver sits in the center of the hull, the commander and the gunner in the turret. The K2 MBT protection systems include a millimeter-wave radar mounted on the turret, which acts as a missile attack warning system (MAWS). The tank's computer calculates the attacking ammunition by triangulation, immediately warning the crew and firing VIRSS smoke grenades, which effectively block optical, infrared and radar signatures (signs of visibility). When installing an anti-missile complex, the radar is responsible for tracking and targeting attacking missiles. The K2 also has a radar warning receiver and a radio disturber. Four all-view receivers warning of laser irradiation also give the crew a warning that the car was "noticeable" and the computer can give a signal to launch VIRSS grenades in the direction of the beam source.

Mobility

The K2 Black Panther has a MT 833 MT diesel engine from Tognum. Engine power 1500 HP allows you to get power density 27,3 hp / t. The fully automatic transmission of the K2 tank includes five forward gears and three reverse gears. MBT K2 on coated roads develops a maximum speed of 70 km / h, while in off-road conditions it is capable of maintaining speeds up to 48 km / h. It accelerates from 0 to 32 km / h in seven seconds. It can overcome slopes of 60 degrees and vertical obstacles 1,3 meters in height. Chassis K2 Black Panther: on each side there are six double rubberized track rollers supporting rollers, a driving wheel in the back and a steering wheel in front. The upper part of the chassis closed armored screens. Tank K2 Black Panther is equipped with an advanced suspension system with hydro-pneumatic blocks In-arm Suspension Unit (ISU), which allows you to separately control the progress of each support wheel. This allows the tank to bend so that the main armament can have a declination angle to -10º.






Examples of blocks hydropneumatic suspension

Instruments and accessories

The K2 Black Panther tank is equipped with a modern fire control system connected to a millimeter radar installed in the front of the tower, as well as a traditional laser range finder and wind sensor. The system is capable of operating in automatic tracking mode when it captures and tracks specific targets at distances up to 9,8 km using thermal imaging optics. This allows the crew to conduct accurate fire while on the move, as well as to effectively hit low-flying targets. The gunner's sight is designated as Gunner's Primary Sight (KGPS), the commander's sight is Korean Commander's Panoramic Sight (KCPS). The commander has the opportunity instead of the shooter to take control of the tower and gun. Tank K2 Black Panther is equipped with a system of collective protection against weapons of mass destruction. The detachment of ammunition is equipped with a lifting panel to protect the crew from the explosion of ammunition. The automatic fire extinguishing system is programmed to detect and extinguish any fire when it occurs inside the car, atmospheric sensors warn the crew of the tank entering the danger zone. Tank K2 can cross the river 5 depth meters with the help of an air intake pipe, which also serves as a control room for the commander. Preparation of the system takes about half an hour. The tower becomes watertight when a barrier is crossed, but the chassis can take about two tons of water to eliminate unnecessary buoyancy due to the presence of air inside the machine and to maintain a strong adhesion of the tracks to the bottom. In addition, the tank is ready for battle as soon as it appears on the surface.








Materials used:
www.defence-blog.com
www.janes.com
en.wikipedia.org
www.hyundai-rotem.co.kr
www.youtube.com
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  1. Magic archer
    Magic archer 24 March 2015 05: 51 New
    20
    At the very top photo it looks very much like Leclerc. But in general, Koreans are great! We created a tank on our own!
    Yesterday I watched a video where the militia talked about the appearance of a new tank at dill. And it’s called Black Panther ... Coincidence! ???
    1. sclerosis
      sclerosis 24 March 2015 07: 34 New
      0
      I saw it too. I think not a coincidence. Run in, test in a real battle. I am sure that not only Koreans, but also Western (first of all!) Manufacturers of weapons, electronic warfare systems, etc. take full advantage of the moment and test their new developments in the Donbass.
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 24 March 2015 08: 14 New
        28
        Do not panic, comrades, there are no Korean tanks there.
        1. Zymran
          Zymran 24 March 2015 12: 33 New
          10
          There are even Abrams


          1. alex-defensor
            alex-defensor April 15 2015 23: 26 New
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            Quote: sclerosis
            Batkat, test in a real battle. I’m sure that not only Koreans, but also Western (first of all!) Manufacturers of weapons, electronic warfare systems, etc. take full advantage of the moment and test their new developments in the Donbass


            The possible result of such a "run-in" is highly doubtful, since the militias hardly have the latest weapons (to the effect of which it is necessary to "tame" equipment), and if they do, then in single copies. And if so, it is easier to fire at the car at the range.

            In addition, it is said that this tank is still a prototype, and therefore if it is not in a single copy, then certainly their number can be counted on the fingers of one hand, and these copies will differ significantly, such people will not be thrown into real combat.

            Listen to all kinds of tales less, and indulge in fantasies.
        2. RAA
          RAA 24 March 2015 21: 16 New
          -2
          But at least there is one, the militia told truthfully.
    2. svp67
      svp67 24 March 2015 08: 08 New
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      Quote: Magic Archer
      But in general, Koreans are great!

      Well, they’re not alone, there the Germans realized their ideas ... The machine is certainly powerful, it only causes a lot of questions to me, it is INNOVATIVE painfully, as well as a very complicated Chassis
      1. Magic archer
        Magic archer 24 March 2015 08: 28 New
        +4
        As for the Germans, you are the point! There are a lot of tanks created on the Leo 2 chassis! The same Arjun, and Panther has German roots. hi
      2. ibnvladimir
        ibnvladimir 24 March 2015 17: 27 New
        +2
        And where are the off-road tests, is it designed for export? Or Russians have nothing to surprise?
    3. svp67
      svp67 24 March 2015 08: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And it’s called Black Panther exactly ... Coincidence! ???

      It's just that the tank is painted in black tones and "black panther" is a proper name for a particular vehicle. As well as here BMP and T64 under different names
    4. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 24 March 2015 11: 33 New
      +6
      "On my own" is not entirely true. The first South Korean tank "88" (aka K-1) was developed by the American company "General Dynamics" since 1981 on the basis of its own design M1 "Abrams". The new Korean tank was even tested in the United States at the Aberdeen Proving Ground in 1983 under the brand name XK-1 "Rokit". On the 88 tank, at the insistence of the Americans and with the consent of the Koreans, the West German engine MB871 Ka501, a multi-fuel 8-cylinder diesel engine with a capacity of 1200 hp, was installed. and automatic transmission ZF LCG-3000. This tank has been mass-produced since 1984 at the enterprises of the Hyundai Heavy Industries Group, which used the experience it gained in the development of the K-2 tank. By the way, the engine and transmission installed on the latter are derived from the above licensed West German samples.
      And "Black Panther" in Donbass, in my opinion, is of the same category as "White Tiger". We'll know for sure when the militias will kill him or capture him.
    5. Dinko
      Dinko 24 March 2015 13: 16 New
      +3
      Moreover, according to military experts, it claims to be the world leader bypassing the German Leopard!
    6. Saratovets
      Saratovets April 12 2015 19: 43 New
      0
      Not his own, based on Korean Abrams taken
  2. Alexander V
    Alexander V 24 March 2015 05: 59 New
    +3
    Turkish tank ALTAY
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    2. gjv
      gjv 25 March 2015 14: 26 New
      +1
      The technology is German-Korean, but the gun is Turkish MKEK. And the name - Turkish Altai - sounds certainly quite threateningly aggressive. But such surnames at them (how specially ?! fellow ).
      The tank was named after Army General Fakhrettin Altai, who commanded the 5th Cavalry Corps during the Turkish War of Independence 1919 - 1923.
  3. bolat19640303
    bolat19640303 24 March 2015 06: 21 New
    +6
    Masha is good, but not ours. A little expensive, a little complicated. Why take 2 tons of water in the chassis when overcoming a water barrier? To exclude excessive buoyancy ??? To grip the tracks with the bottom? Our cars do without it.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 24 March 2015 09: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: bolat19640303
      Why take 2 tons of water in the chassis when overcoming a water barrier? To exclude excessive buoyancy ??? To grip the tracks with the bottom?

      To overcome rivers over course. In case of poor adhesion to the bottom (sand / silt), the tank can easily be demolished by the current, the driver may lose orientation and then write and lose ... Also, with insufficient adhesion to the bottom, the tank may simply not get ashore. Therefore, crossings are prepared by engineering services, level the coast, pour stones, set marks. Without this, it’s even dangerous to wade, not to mention the bottom at 5 meters depth.
      Quote: bolat19640303
      Our cars do without it.

      At ostentatious exhibitions on the concrete gutter ...
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 24 March 2015 09: 22 New
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        Quote: Nayhas
        At ostentatious exhibitions on the concrete gutter ...


        Why for? All our equipment, which is in service in tank and mechanized military units, passed at one time a full range of tests.
        Saying this, you simply spit on the work of people who were directly involved in these very trials, as well as on the work of those who were involved in the development and production of our tanks.
        This is not good.

        I propose to see how and where tankers of the 4th Guards TD, T-80U vehicles learn to overcome water obstacles:


        And this is a "training" in the Urals, the tankers of the Central Military District are trained to overcome water obstacles on the T-72B:

        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 24 March 2015 09: 33 New
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          Quote: wanderer_032
          Why for? All our equipment, which is in service in tank and mechanized military units, passed at one time a full range of tests.

          Watch the video carefully. The tank enters exactly in the place indicated by the landmarks and exits the same way. Why? Yes, because it is in these places that the bottom is leveled and covered with stones. Also, pay attention to the presence (or rather, almost no) flow. In real life, there will be no such conditions, no one will level the bottom and sprinkle it with rubble. At the end of the video 1:38, the mechanic driver says exactly what the dispute is about, "there is a current, water flows, it practically does not cling to the ground ..."
          1. wanderer_032
            wanderer_032 24 March 2015 09: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: Nayhas
            At the end of video 1:38, the mechanic driver says exactly what the dispute is about, "there is a current, water flows, it practically does not cling to the ground ..."


            Of course, any such technique has a tendency to the so-called ascent effect due to the air that is in the internal volumes of the machine, but this is fixable. You can load the tank with additional ballast, for example. As additional ballast, use improvised materials (bags filled with rubble or sand, or waterproof bags with ordinary soil), in general, any heavy improvised items can be used.
            The tank loaded with additional ballast can easily and confidently overcome the water obstacle "with news".
            In addition, before the tank unit performs the forcing of serious water barriers, engineering exploration of the coast and bottom surface of the forced water barrier is carried out.
            As for the armored vehicles of motorized rifle units (infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles), in our army they can all overcome water obstacles without preparation, because they have the appropriate equipment.
            1. wanderer_032
              wanderer_032 24 March 2015 10: 04 New
              +2
              As for the Korean vehicles, I suppose that they were equipped with kingston in order to be able to land tanks from landing ships on the sea coast.
              This is dictated by the need for Korea to be a peninsula, i.e. a land plot on 3 sides surrounded by water.
    2. luiswoo
      luiswoo 24 March 2015 09: 18 New
      +2
      Well, the T-14 is not easy and not cheap either - you have to pay for progress ...

      http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/342506.html
      Actually, they are similar in size and contours of the case, the T-14 only has no second influx over the engine. It is interesting to see how he will show himself on the polygon track.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 24 March 2015 18: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: luiswoo
        It is interesting to see how he will show himself on the polygon track.

        Welcome to the Tank Biathlon! yes
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 24 March 2015 19: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Bayonet
          Welcome to the Tank Biathlon!

          please joke ... dear hi Bayonet???
          the tank is clearly crude, before 18's-19's, obviously we will not see ...

          and, nevertheless, the inhabited tower with the aft arrangement of the BC, looks more preferable than the DBM ....
          T-94 "Black Eagle"
          1. cosmos111
            cosmos111 24 March 2015 19: 40 New
            +2
            just a quote ...
            "The accumulated and accumulated experience, cries out that if you press hard on Russia, then tanks will climb out of it"
    3. avt
      avt 24 March 2015 09: 30 New
      +7
      Quote: bolat19640303
      Masha is good, but not ours. A little expensive, a little complicated.

      good And most importantly, I did not hear that our tanks drove her into the tail and mane during tests from -50 to +50 and over different terrain. Well, even for advertising there is no video where at least he starts a couple of our 70s it leaves not only through the swamp - along the tundra, on the railway, where the courier "Vorkuta - Leningrad" laughing I’m not talking about the shelling, let it be super secret information. And of course the engineering solution is beautiful, but the question still remains - the fighting vehicle, or an Faberge egg with a cannon?
      Quote: Alexander V
      Turkish tank ALTAY

      Campaign cheaper version.
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      2. cosmos111
        cosmos111 24 March 2015 17: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: luiswoo
        Well, the T-14 is not easy and not cheap.

        A couple of photos and the expected sizes of the T-14 from the Amer website: http: //www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php? 99988-Russian-Pho


        tos- (
        updated-on-regular-basis) / page3871 + 3 D layout ...



        and in comparison with the dimensions of the T-72 ....
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        2. cosmos111
          cosmos111 24 March 2015 17: 50 New
          +1
          and a couple of screenshots from this site: http: //www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php? 99988-Russian-Pho


          tos- (updated-on-regular-basis) / page3870
          клик
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 March 2015 19: 15 New
          +1
          Rather, there will be something similar and there will be no gap between the tower and the hull.
    4. ROMANO
      ROMANO 24 March 2015 20: 27 New
      +1
      First, they create problems for themselves, and then, "heroically" solve them. So what for was it to make an expensive, complex, dimensional and vulnerable (few, they, commanders, sniper were shot?) "Commander's cabin"? What's wrong with a regular snorkel? And for the review, a video camera would be enough. To replace this pipe, you see, and you will not need to take ballast.
  4. silver169
    silver169 24 March 2015 06: 37 New
    +2
    Black Panther is good, but we'd better show "Armata" in detail. Everyone is already yearning ...
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 24 March 2015 07: 24 New
      +2
      Yesterday I saw pictures of Almaty and Kurganets, with sheathed towers.
      1. Pacifist
        Pacifist 24 March 2015 08: 13 New
        +2
        If these pictures are not fake, then the statement about the reduction in mass and the change in the design of the chassis, relative to the object 195, is not confirmed. Taki 7 road wheels, not 6. Which means that the differences in housing are minimal. Hood. We are waiting for more :)
        1. luiswoo
          luiswoo 24 March 2015 09: 27 New
          0
          And how can you tell what type of suspension it has from the photos? The T-14, like the "budget version" of the "object", may, for example, have a torsion bar, for example, and not hydro-pneumatic, like the "object". As it is not clear what they were saving on.
          1. Pacifist
            Pacifist 24 March 2015 15: 07 New
            +1
            Of course you can not say about the type, but at least there is hope. Simply, if they reduced to 6 supporting ones, this would indirectly indicate a significant change in the mass-dimensional parameters of the machine and a serious departure from the original sample, and there remains a chance that the differences are more cosmetic.
  5. Pacifist
    Pacifist 24 March 2015 08: 16 New
    +6
    K2 is a powerful car. It is difficult to talk about its application practice, reliability, and other important characteristics, but by performance characteristics it is one of the most powerful tanks and a very serious opponent. In addition, it looks aesthetically good. Korea turned out to be a very decent car.
  6. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 24 March 2015 09: 00 New
    +8
    "120-mm smoothbore gun 55 caliber"

    Probably, after all, a length of 55 calibers.
  7. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 24 March 2015 09: 37 New
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    It features a modern cannon with lethal firepower

    Oh, those "translators" ... laughing
    It’s as if guns were firing traumatic shells somewhere on tanks. laughing

  8. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 24 March 2015 10: 02 New
    0
    All qualities are recognized directly on the battlefield for what he is capable of showing time.
  9. GEV67
    GEV67 24 March 2015 10: 26 New
    0
    The main thing is how this tank will behave in off-road conditions and harsh winter and spring mud conditions, then in combat conditions and then we can say what kind of car it is ....
  10. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 24 March 2015 10: 46 New
    +2
    The car is serious, you can’t say anything.
    It was designed on the basis of "Leo", judging by the fact that German specialists actively participated in the development of the tank.
    During the development, the Koreans "borrowed" some technical solutions from our tank builders, because ob. 640 was planned to be equipped with an AZ with very similar basic parameters of work (the location of the ammo rack in the rear of the tower and the basic principle of the automation).
    As for the movement, then the Korean engineers supposedly took the English "Challenger" for the main idea and modified the suspension according to their ideas.
    Such an English-German-Russian peculiar hybrid of engineering solutions has turned out. A very good hybrid, it should be noted.

    We will wait on May 9, let's see what our pile. wink Well, not long left.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 24 March 2015 10: 55 New
      +1
      Video topic:

  11. UNFAMILIAR
    UNFAMILIAR 24 March 2015 11: 29 New
    +3
    And look at the undercarriage, at the skating rink that supports 6, the automatic loader ears stick out, not explicitly, but creative understanding and processing given for T-80 debts, according to the technological level of industry and the capabilities of foreign allies.
  12. Wolka
    Wolka 24 March 2015 11: 36 New
    +5
    the advertisement is really good, now this toy would have to be tested in tank biathlon in Alabino, everything would pass without breakdowns and failures, there would be something to equalize with, and so far, only theoretically might power
  13. CA CA
    CA CA 24 March 2015 12: 31 New
    +2
    From there

    http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/342506.html
    1. CRP
      CRP 24 March 2015 12: 41 New
      0
      Quote: caca
      From there

      http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/342506.html



      why a gun without an ejector?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 24 March 2015 14: 25 New
        0
        Seem in Armata nothing breakthrough in tank building does not wake up.
      2. Yegorchik
        Yegorchik 24 March 2015 15: 37 New
        +5
        Quote: CRP



        why a gun without an ejector?

        And why does he need an ejector? The fighting compartment is not inhabited, the head from the smoke from the loading machine will not hurt.
      3. perfect100
        perfect100 24 March 2015 16: 28 New
        +1
        And without an ejector because the tower is uninhabited. There are no people in it who are not good at breathing burnt gunpowder ...
      4. uwzek
        uwzek 24 March 2015 17: 20 New
        +3
        And why is it needed, this vacuum cleaner? The fighting compartment is uninhabited, let it stink. You can increase the rate of fire ...
      5. SSeT
        SSeT 24 March 2015 20: 52 New
        0
        By the way! there is a good old 125mm just refreshed. And neither a cover, nor an ejector - is the stick simple?
    2. UNFAMILIAR
      UNFAMILIAR 24 March 2015 13: 20 New
      +2
      A light tank with a "rapier"?
    3. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 24 March 2015 20: 04 New
      0
      I can immediately note that the tank is very quiet on the go, despite the fact that diesel rumble is clearly audible in the power plant.
      Despite the size, it seems to go briskly, although the mech.vod "into the furnace" does not throw it.
  14. Jackking
    Jackking 24 March 2015 13: 34 New
    +1
    I wonder what the text was translated by Google translator?
  15. Flanker717
    Flanker717 24 March 2015 14: 45 New
    0
    Quote: CRP
    Quote: caca
    From there

    http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/342506.html



    why a gun without an ejector?


    Judging by the absence of an ejector on the barrel of the gun, the tower is uninhabited. The crew is isolated from contact with spent gunpowder.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 March 2015 14: 50 New
      0
      But the crew is not protected from falling into the side of the tandem grenade.
      1. uwzek
        uwzek 24 March 2015 17: 22 New
        +2
        Are you sure about that?
      2. Massik
        Massik 24 March 2015 20: 26 New
        -2
        There was also an article where it was said about the rejection of unnecessary "bells and whistles". Apparently, the side screens of the DZ were considered "superfluous", we hope that "on the exhaust" we get at least equal to 90CM.
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 24 March 2015 21: 54 New
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          Quote: Marssik
          Let's hope that "at the exhaust" we get at least equal to 90CM.

          I would like something more modern ... like "Object 187" / 5,6 version of the prototype ((2A66 gun, X-shaped diesel engine)))
        2. Dog of war
          Dog of war 24 March 2015 22: 24 New
          +6
          Apparently, to realize that the tank is going for loading, before which it removes all unnecessary because of the dimensions, is not fate.
    2. CRP
      CRP 24 March 2015 15: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Flanker717

      Judging by the absence of an ejector on the barrel of the gun, the tower is uninhabited. The crew is isolated from contact with spent gunpowder.


      Does this somehow affect the characteristics of the gun itself?
    3. CAMS
      CAMS 25 March 2015 02: 38 New
      0
      seven rinks
  16. CRP
    CRP 24 March 2015 15: 49 New
    0
    Quote: Egorchik
    Quote: CRP



    why a gun without an ejector?

    And why does he need an ejector? The fighting compartment is not inhabited, the head from the smoke from the loading machine will not hurt.

    Well, I didn’t know why it is needed at all)) Does it affect the characteristics?
    1. uwzek
      uwzek 24 March 2015 17: 25 New
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      Theoretically affected. The pressure in the bore increases until it leaves the shell.
  17. magnum1907
    magnum1907 24 March 2015 18: 51 New
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    the Chinese also praised their tank, but at the biathlon it did not show itself very well, even in comparison with our "old tanks". I would like to see these new items from China and Korea with our new "breakthrough" and "stronghold".
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 March 2015 19: 21 New
      +5
      The Chinese at the biathlon didn’t have a half point to the first place, so the Ture-96 proved to be very worthy.
      1. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 25 March 2015 19: 48 New
        +1
        Something is somehow confusing the words "stronghold" and "our".
    2. Anatole
      Anatole 26 March 2015 07: 40 New
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      In shooting, they even showed themselves.
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  19. ROMANO
    ROMANO 24 March 2015 20: 15 New
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    Quote: Magic Archer
    As for the Germans, you are the point! There are a lot of tanks created on the Leo 2 chassis! The same Arjun, and Panther has German roots.


    Arjun, yes. But the "Panther" has a six-wheel suspension, which is more typical of Soviet-Chinese tank building.
  20. Massik
    Massik 24 March 2015 20: 23 New
    +1
    KAZ seems to be in "influx" on the cheeks of the tower with 3 windows in each)))
    1. SSeT
      SSeT 24 March 2015 20: 56 New
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      Does he exist at all? The question is what. There is trite "Cloud" can be
  21. Spas the Great
    Spas the Great 25 March 2015 02: 44 New
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    Of course, Koreans are great!
    Creating a tank yourself is worth a lot!
    Nevertheless, the cost of this "device" is extremely exorbitant for real combat use.
    In a direct clash between South and North Korea: the South will literally "fly into the pipe!" winked
    1. gjv
      gjv 25 March 2015 14: 45 New
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      Yeah! Here is the "Japanese" Type 10, and even cheaper (6,5 million each).
      1. Saratovets
        Saratovets April 12 2015 19: 46 New
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        Japanese generally the most expensive tank
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  22. Bender7
    Bender7 26 March 2015 21: 45 New
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    Well done Koreans, made a great tank really expensive!
  23. Olegmog
    Olegmog 28 March 2015 21: 56 New
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    Armata is waiting, like the parents of a child! Not born yet, but assumptions
    sea! Maybe you don’t have to rush things !!!
  24. Ajsberg
    Ajsberg April 4 2015 11: 31 New
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    I am far from an expert, but I want to add my 5 kopecks to all of the above. "Armata" is, as I understand from everything that is written about it, a machine that meets the concept heavy tank, whereas since the post-war years, our tank building has been engaged in universal vehicles, but in concept it is closer to what can be called a medium tank. The very division into TT and ST disappeared just at that period, being replaced by the concept of the main tank, but, IMHO, to understand the innovations of the "Armata" this is worth remembering. Apparently, the tasks faced by the developers were not possible to implement in the usual universal ST-concept. Hence the larger size of "Armata", which can be seen from the above comparative picture in the message cosmos111. And, of course, even when the new product goes on stream, cars like the T-90 and other modifications will be written off early. Most likely, there will be mixed picking for different tasks.
  25. hoshinokoe
    hoshinokoe April 5 2015 13: 53 New
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    Nobody even saw the tank, but there is already a discussion of the layout and combat characteristics. Let's say who said that it was "Armata" in the pictures with the sheathed BM?