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Ukraine is Russia

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Ukraine is RussiaUkraine is a kind of disease, more precisely a political sect disguised as a nation

I always liked simple reasoning. That is, those that are understandable to anyone, with any education.

If you have to search for and use any special momentum to explain the essence of the topic, then something is wrong.

And then - absolutely no one wants to be clever. Even if it turns out.

And from these very positions of simple presentation of my own thoughts, I decided to express my opinion about what is happening in Ukraine and around it (and even then, it’s true who don’t speak on this sore subject in our time).

I am convinced that the truth is banal. This is what we have heard many times and dismiss regular conversations on such topics literally - well, okay, in short, everything is clear, we are talking and ... we forget about the main thing.

This is an amazing thing: taking something as banality, for some reason we are not trying to “embed” it in our everyday life or, especially, to rebuff those who are trying to somehow cancel this banality, give white to black and vice versa. Often we are looking for some complex descriptions and explanations of what is happening, either by complexing, or acting under the pressure of some circumstances, or by not wishing at all to follow the “trends” (often artificially created)).

But, rather with the introduction, in fact, I proceed to the main point, the reasoning on what is happening in Ukraine.

Friends, we are all with you (and I would like to add - sensible people), obviously, we understand that "Ukraine is Russia." I put quotes solely in order to just somehow highlight this thought. Banal thought.

And let us begin to say this banality out loud, often and in spite of any criticism from any side and who and what thinks about this somewhere far or not.
Actually, this is the first thesis and the first, most important statement that I would like to fix.

We can begin to argue - right away - this or not. But it is long история, but I would like to say a few main things in a not very long article, without leaving much attention to the details of my thoughts.

I do not run from disputes and counter-arguments, but the format of the article does not imply a bilateral dispute. Details and disputes can be presented in other articles or at round tables, etc., I am ready to further argue on these topics and deploy hot and long discussions, but here I would just like to formulate the main thing in the form of theses or something like that.

And so:

1. Ukraine is Russia. This is the first thesis.

Ukraine is a part of Russia, which due to a number of circumstances, is completely man-made, cut off from Russia by forces interested in weakening Russia, the Russian people and the Russian world.

I didn’t say anything new, I understand that this is just another commonplace thing (for sensible people), however, we are all the time embarrassed to say it out loud. And in vain. Less hypocrisy and playing giveaway with our enemy is more truth and common sense. It would be more useful for all of us.

Kuchma, the former president of Ukraine, wrote his book Ukraine — Not Russia — a few years ago, guided by a political order and a false understanding of his place in history. He wrote it, by the way, in Russian, which he himself frankly and frankly admitted.

And the second point I would put the following:

2. The inhabitants of Ukraine are Russians, in their overwhelming majority ethnic Russians, and if you take even higher - generally by 99% (the conventional value, if someone does not like it - let it be 98 or 95% or even 90%, this is not so important, the main thing that it is close to the upper threshold in 100%) people of Russian civilization. Regardless already from ethnicity.

The fact that ALL UKRAINE SPEAKS IN THE RUSSIAN LANGUAGE CONFIRMS THIS BANALITY.

In general, for a person's identity, the key role is played by THREE FACTORS: language, history, religion.

What we see today in Ukraine - the demons of the current government (and the past, especially in 1991) try to get rid of the Russian language as much as possible, to limit the influence of Orthodoxy and the churches of the Moscow Patriarchate, the history has already been rewritten and as it happens in such situations of fairy tale writing - it It turned out the most "ancient" for the true "Ukrainians" ("it was foldable on paper ...").

They try to make non-Russians out of Russians, changing their identity and, most importantly, SELF-IDENTITY, the way a person perceives and positions himself in society.

The third point in importance, complementing the second, but also having an intrinsic value — and I would like to point out in particular the following:

3. Ukraine is a kind of disease, although it would be more accurate to say - POLITICAL SECTOR MASKING TO A NATION in the generally accepted sense of the word. Belonging to the "Ukrainians" - is belonging to the sect.

Once again, in other words: involvement in "Ukrainians" is the involvement of Russians in a certain community with their rules, invented by the leaders and ideologists of the sect, involving, of course, using the technologies of involvement in the sect, whatever it may be.

At the same time, there are all signs of a sect in “Ukrainians”

A) Rituals and slogans: "who does not jump ...", "glory to Ukraine", "heroy glory", "Ukraine - the price of Europa ...", "Putin is a bad person" and so on and so forth.

This is very exciting, especially for young people, they are generally greedy for everything new, hormones in their blood are raging, they are looking for activities and adventures, they need a way out of energy, they are ready to run after any newly appeared prophets. By and large, young people do not care - to build or destroy, wherever you direct their energy - there they will rush.

Modern technology allows you to direct the crowd in almost any direction. It is necessary that the whole country jumped - they will jump. It is necessary to shout all sorts of nonsense - they will shout, including infants. These are all technologies that are particularly effective after preliminary training in schools and universities. If the media and social networks are connected to this, then how far can you go to a given goal. And the youth of Ukraine for more than 20 years daily and consistently processed in the right direction.

B) National heroes: the old ghouls are swept away and pulled out onto the white light and made heroes - murderers and ideologues of murderers, even recognized as such by the Europeans (which, of course, is not the main thing for us, because of the fact that the Europeans are actually limited in fact) Bandera, Shukhevych and let's face it - a completely mediocre poet Taras Shevchenko (yes, a poet, but a poet, let's say, of the third level, if I'm wrong, correct it and the main thing - prove the opposite).

AT). Images of the future: Ukraine is Europa. Here, simply an element of religion - we, "Ukrainians, do not understand what it is, what follows from this (we have beautiful pictures before our eyes), we only theoretically imagine how this can affect our life, but we just need" Ukrainians " to believe in it. This is an analogue of “paradise” for believers. No one in Ukraine seriously tries to analyze the realism of his dreams, the main thing here is to believe. We see an absolutely fantastic belief of “Ukrainians” (Russian patients, in other words, or Russians in a sect) in "paradise on earth" - europeanism.

4. Symbols, values. Here it is more than appropriate to make the main values, for example, embroidery and the “Holodomor”.

It is necessary to invent WHAT WE ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS, FIRST FROM RUSSIANS, and to make this the central elements of propaganda always and everywhere. Hence the "marches embroidered" candles for the victims of the "famine". Of course, the “Holodomor” is also a technology of mind control. Here you can add the value of "European" and the value with the opposite sign, for example, "we are not padded jacket".

The “Holodomor” was created as a value for a long time, tediously, but stubbornly and consistently. Yushchenko did his job. Everyone laughed at him, his passion for "folk pots", and he consistently did his job. And he prepared the ground (then it was too early to revolt the Natsik and “Ukrainians”). The Holodomor was created, like the Holocaust in its time, on lies and distortions of historical truth in order to create a “pivot point”, in this case Ukrainians. The nature of creating a “famine” is on 100% technology for creating an important element of the sect.

Now the summary (repetition is the mother of the teachings), repeat the CANTERITY:

1. Ukraine is a part of Russia.

2. Ukraine is a sect.

3. Ukrainians are sect members, "sick" Russians (they need to be treated and most can be cured unequivocally).

4. The control of the West by the current situation in Ukraine is the technology of separation of part of Russia (Ukraine) from Greater Russia, used by our enemies - the Anglo-Saxons (mainly the United States, but also Great Britain) and Germany (unfortunately, unnaturally and never became our natural ally ).

Of course, this article is very tempted to give a recipe for "what to do." There are a lot of actions that are needed, I will not dwell on this article, but I will limit myself to one, too commonplace advice / reasoning: it is impossible to win the battle while sitting in a fortress.

In the defense of war is not won. To defeat the United States — and this is today the main enemy of the Russian World and Russia — you need to move the theater of war into their territory.

Returning to Ukraine.

Imagine that a huge angry dog ​​grabbed your “cookie” in the teeth and, holding her teeth tightly, holding it. If you, wanting to pick up a cookie, pull it and continue to pull, then most likely it will fall apart into several parts. At best, you will get only a portion of this cookie. And you need the whole cookie. So - this is a bad strategy.

Now imagine that this angry dog ​​is the United States (or rather, Omerik is a country that is now very different in all respects, say from the classic US country 50-60x), a cookie is Ukraine (part of Russia, see p.1 above), and you (the one who is trying to pull a cookie from an angry dog) - and there is Russia.

The correct strategy is not to pull the cookies at the risk of breaking them, but to hit the dog in the head. She opens the jaws of pain and thereby gives the cookie, it will not be up to her. This is the solution to the problem. She herself will release from the mouth of that in a fit of greed and captured that does not belong to her.

Can it become cynical (to the extreme)? A couple of snipers in Ferguson, acting the same way as illegal and sneaky ACTED Americans in 1993 year at the Government House in Moscow or Kiev IN FEBRUARY 2014 years, are able to change the situation with the stability in the United States beyond recognition. Heavenly hundred Omariki.

But Fergusons "there" can (or - should?) Be a lot. These elites of the Western world understand only power. This is commonplace. Well, it is necessary to implement it without any complexes. And we thereby preserve millions of lives, by the way, and on all continents.

We will save billions and trillions of dollars, rubles and yuan that can be spent by mankind on research, medicine, the extension of people's lives, science, the development of civilization in general, and not on the arms race and on wars.

Trite?

Once again - yes.
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  1. Vezhchel
    Vezhchel 20 March 2015 21: 54
    +36
    The West has always sought to "tear" Ukraine away from Russia, to oppose Ukrainians to Russians.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 20 March 2015 21: 58
      +46
      Ukraine is probably so ..))) Or rather they want it to be so .. bully
      1. bort4145
        bort4145 20 March 2015 22: 00
        +34
        Old as the world banality: DIVIDE AND RULE... And people hawala.
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        2. DDR
          DDR 20 March 2015 22: 26
          +25
          Quote: bort4145
          Plain as old as the world: DIVIDE AND CONQUER. And people hawala.

          So it's time to divide the "mattress" into fifty new countries bully laughing
          1. Penzyac
            Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 13
            +9
            Quote: DDR
            Quote: bort4145
            Plain as old as the world: DIVIDE AND CONQUER. And people hawala.

            So it's time to divide the "mattress" into fifty new countries bully laughing

            Yes, enough of three or four parts ...
            1. Blondy
              Blondy 21 March 2015 03: 39
              +16
              Quote: PENZYAC
              So it's time to divide the "mattress" into fifty new countries
              Yes, enough of three or four parts ...


              And let’s recall the story, the United States was so well divided into North and South, and so far this is sitting in the native white’s blood, though over the past hundred years everything has been diluted there by emigrants. But the indigenous ones are now their elite. So you need to take lessons from history and use them to the fullest. For example, southern regular conservative traditions and unscrupulous northern mercantilism.
              You can also divide into indigenous and "come in large numbers". Well, the traditional black and white sore.
              1. SAXA.SHURA
                SAXA.SHURA 23 March 2015 14: 20
                +3
                Native American Indians there, and not whites that had never been there before Columbus, and blacks and whites, these are all newcomers.
            2. Kassandra
              Kassandra 21 March 2015 08: 22
              +8
              five darling, five ... you forgot to count Alaska wassat

              California (such as 1/4 of GNP) and Oregon (all of which exist) have long wanted independence.
              1. eugraphus
                eugraphus 23 March 2015 04: 53
                +10
                If the United States were to be destroyed, Alaska would have gone to Russia as a bonus. And what a film it would be - "Alaska. The Way Home"! There are a lot of problems that could be played in the states. To quarrel whites and blacks like two fingers on the asphalt. Fergusson confirms this. And it starts to fall apart, the Mexicans will not miss theirs. The Chinese map in the states is also a different story. Muslims, Indians. The thurms are filled with prisoners with fabulous terms. Just start, so many problems will emerge, it won't be boring.
                1. Kassandra
                  Kassandra 23 March 2015 04: 56
                  +6
                  and they all don't like moromons feel
                  we will reduce the United States to the size of this reservation - Utah, so that all from all sides throw honey from the wings and cocoa bottles to this Salt Lake City. wassat
                2. BLACK-SHARK-64
                  BLACK-SHARK-64 23 March 2015 08: 53
                  +4
                  The article is very logical ... There is grain .. It is necessary to water and wait for seedlings ... That's right, if you do not water and sit on the couch, nothing will grow ... If RUSSIA is profitable, all methods are good and will justify any action !!! angry
                3. BLACK-SHARK-64
                  BLACK-SHARK-64 23 March 2015 08: 53
                  +2
                  The article is very logical ... There is grain .. It is necessary to water and wait for seedlings ... That's right, if you do not water and sit on the couch, nothing will grow ... If RUSSIA is profitable, all methods are good and will justify any action !!! angry
                  Quote: Kassandra
                  and they all don't like moromons feel
                  we will reduce the United States to the size of this reservation - Utah, so that all from all sides throw honey from the wings and cocoa bottles to this Salt Lake City. wassat
          2. bif
            bif 20 March 2015 23: 58
            +42
            Quote: DDR
            it's time to divide the "mattress" into fifty new countries

            THE MOST IMPORTANT WORDS IN THE ARTICLE
            In the defense of war is not won. To defeat the United States — and this is today the main enemy of the Russian World and Russia — you need to move the theater of war into their territory.
            1. Blondy
              Blondy 21 March 2015 04: 46
              +4
              Quote: bif
              In the defense of war is not won. To defeat the United States — and this is today the main enemy of the Russian World and Russia — you need to move the theater of war into their territory.

              RT certainly does its job, I am even to some extent impressed by Kiselev’s aggressive emotionality, but he’s very primitive and frantic. People nevertheless did not gather for a zombie, but sit at home in a relaxed atmosphere, drink beer, watch TV. He needs to study at Putin’s and interviews and press conferences (he also doesn’t do much at rallies, although I liked it about overcoming the difficulties that we create for ourselves, it’s worth it “we”: they create difficulties, but others have to overcome). He has all his friends and colleagues there, but in a soft manner (sometimes not very) obsess ... (well, in general, you understand) so that it doesn’t seem enough.
              Falin would have been good at this place, but where can you find the Falin now.
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            3. Naum
              Naum 23 March 2015 12: 59
              +1
              This is the most obvious thing! The Americans for a long time (one and a half centuries) had no problems (war) on their territory. Fear, its, completely lost! It would be necessary to create them, without waiting for when Yelouston to explode. There are many options to turn on the detonator, there would be a desire!
            4. Grandfather Nikola
              Grandfather Nikola 23 March 2015 20: 12
              +1
              ... and you need to start with the Western curators of ukranstvo, the benefit of ice axes is not a shortage))
          3. karachun
            karachun 21 March 2015 01: 33
            +2
            separation of mattress in front) long-playing Temka
          4. rodevaan
            rodevaan 21 March 2015 06: 48
            +7
            Ukraine is a kind of disease

            - The fact of the matter is that it is a DISEASE! DISEASE of the brainwashed. The unfortunate Russian community of 40 million, duped and deceived so many times by Western henchmen on the territory called "Ukraine".
            But everything has its time!
            The mother of Russian cities - KIEV, must return to the fold in Russia. And he will return. Just everything has its time.

            And when he returns home, to his homeland, to Russia, - and the disease will pass.
          5. spiriolla-45
            spiriolla-45 21 March 2015 14: 59
            +4
            America must disappear, as the Native American leader said, to the place and without it.
        3. Max_Bauder
          Max_Bauder 21 March 2015 18: 54
          +10
          I disagree a little with the author of the article about the fact that there are no Ukrainians as a nation, maybe there was a long time ago, but now there are already. As it was when the USSR was created. If this date seems close to you, remember the 19th century, was Germany and the Germans, Italy and Italians? What were the Dutch called Belgians? Prussia, Saxony, Bavaria, Württemberg, Sardinia, the Venetian Republic, Piedmont, Helvetia, Flanders, Flemish and other names were relevant, so we will consider that then the people inhabiting part of the territory of Ukraine (part belonged to Poland, part Austria-Hungary) called themselves Ukrainians but undoubtedly the places where they lived belonged to the Russian Empire. And in this empire, it was not customary to separate subjects according to ethnic differences. When the Bolsheviks came to power, how did they gain power in large territories? not by force only, almost all ethnically non-Russian residents of the large former empire joined them, as they promised to create autonomy for them and not infringe on their rights, and created it. It was then that everyone began to recognize how many different nations inhabit Eurasia. Finally, for our lands, they began to distinguish Kazakhs from Kyrgyz.

          As for the Ukrainians, they had the right to the same identity as the Belarusians, Moldavians, because there are gypsies, there is no country, but there are people, and for example, there are 40 million Kurds on Earth, even though their country is not. So with the originality they have everything in order. Although we recognize over the years, but no, centuries of cohabitation with neighbors with Russians, Belarusians, in view of the common racial traits and culture of Russian, Orthodox spirituality, there have been confusions, which is why many mestizos can not be determined by Russians or Ukrainians, and it didn’t matter, but ... until recent events.

          But about the recent events in more detail. It’s not a deep secret, it is clearly obvious even from the side of an outside observer from Central Asia that the Maidan is the work of Americans. Without going into details already asking who is it profitable and who is most screaming, an oil painting immediately emerges. USA. And if we recall the indirect details of the Washingtonians talking about the stained hand, then here are the cookies of the Nulands, the provocation with the Boeing without evidence but with the accusations of Russia, the supply of weapons, instructors, the lands bought in the Donbass by Biden’s son, the leaders of Ukraine raised in the United States, new foreign ministers received a position together with a passport, all yelling to the media of the West, the bulk of the shares of which belong to large corporations of the media to the billionaire morgan, and so on and so forth. Only a fool can ignore such details.

          Ever since the collapse of the Union, the United States, if you were in its place (you put yourself in the place of the enemy so as not to think that that stupid one) would have done the same, the Union fell apart, the Russians shout that we are no longer Communists, but do you care? it is important for you to remove a major geopolitical player from the game! FOREVER! Moreover, it’s free to take possession of nature’s resources like a walker wanted to shove Yukos, and the territory there you can quietly surround it with bases, troops with missiles to blackmail at the right time, put the economy on the dollar’s ​​dependence, quarrel with neighbors, it’s just not right to local conflicts to allow any alliances, it is advisable to tear the country into small countries of autonomy, then you don’t have to worry at all, do whatever you want in the world. So I agree with the author about the stick in the head of the dog. Without Russia and its current leader, not only Russians and other peoples inhabiting a large country, not only neighbors like us, but all around the world will have a khan! For then no one will be able to stop the presumptuous beast.
          1. Kassandra
            Kassandra 22 March 2015 06: 00
            +3
            there is a country like the USA, but there are no sshants

            Ukraine began with the German occupation zone in the Republic of Ingushetia.
            1. hrough
              hrough 22 March 2015 22: 39
              +9
              Quote: Kassandra
              there is a country like the USA, but there are no sshants
              Americans are a surrogate nation. Americans are the British, Spaniards, French, Portuguese, Arabs, Indians and many other nations living in USA. The American language is warped English.
              Quote: Max_Bauder
              I disagree a little with the author of the article about the fact that there are no Ukrainians as a nation, maybe there was a long time ago, but now there are already.
              Ukrainians are Russians, Jews, Poles, etc. living in Ukraine. The Ukrainian language is warped Russian.
              1. Kassandra
                Kassandra 23 March 2015 02: 26
                +2
                the nation implies blood isolation, which is not in Ukraine.

                there is no Swiss nation either.
          2. tantalum
            tantalum 23 March 2015 13: 05
            +3
            Quote: Max_Bauder
            about the fact that there are no Ukrainians as a nation, maybe a long time ago, but now there are already

            One could agree that since they appeared as a nation, then so be it, if not for their sick desire, inspired by an inferiority complex, to show that they are better than others. I think if you had even a little remove the case, you also noticed this feature of them. even this could somehow be tolerated if it did not take such disgusting forms among them. Almost every one of this "nation" with whom I dealt always spoke only in Russian and at the same time tried to treat Russia and the Russians themselves with negligence as far as circumstances permitted, of course. Now about the originality and language. In the Stavropol region, in the Kuban people live with a similar originality and language and for some reason they have no problems with self-identification as Russians.
        4. Pilot
          Pilot 22 March 2015 19: 45
          +1
          Neighbor Candon and do not care what nationality he is. Ready sweaty sock in the throat. It's the same here. Khokhlam? sweaty sock in the throat to shut up.
      2. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 20 March 2015 22: 59
        +22
        MIKHAN (6)
        everyone who says that they say Ukraine is a stranger, a different country, a different people, and the like, voluntarily, not freely, for a fee, but whatever, pours water on the Anglo-Saxon mill of discord, hostility and murder, which over the centuries of its work brought many nations together to the grave or lowered to the level of insignificance.

        WHERE "writers", you will go to the millennium in which there was inseparable RUSSIA, if you reject KIEV and everything connected with it?
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 21 March 2015 06: 44
          +4
          Quote: vladkavkaz
          WHERE are the "writers", you will go to the millennium in which Russia was inseparable, if you reject KIEV and everything connected with it?

          So it’s not we who reject it, it’s the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of Ukraine, who consider us to be "musk and oath", the culprits of all their troubles! Let's not engage in self-deception.
        2. Vanko
          Vanko 23 March 2015 07: 33
          +6
          Quote: vladkavkaz
          WHERE are the "writers", you will go to the millennium in which Russia was inseparable, if you reject KIEV and everything connected with it?


          How is this millennium? The Millennium is only after baptism. And before that? Russia did not arise with Christianity, it appeared much earlier.

          If it weren’t for Peter, we would have had 7524 now ...
          1. Kassandra
            Kassandra 23 March 2015 07: 39
            +1
            so they baptized "wrong" - with two fingers ... wink
            so that no millennium - forget bully
          2. andrew42
            andrew42 23 March 2015 09: 37
            +3
            As for Kiev: before the arrival of Oleg it was a city under the protectorate of the Khazar Kaganate, with "overseers" in the form of the Varangians, who finally unbelt, destroying the last heirs of the Slavic princes before that. Arab sources speak about this literally, without speculation. The Kiev glades and the northerners paid tribute to the Khazars (the first through Kiev), the latter directly, and also paid "tribute in blood", participating in the same campaigns against Byzantium. Oleg's arrival only shook this situation, and everything was resolved only 2 generations later - by the deeds of Svyatoslav Igorevich.
            1. crumb
              crumb 23 March 2015 12: 43
              +1
              yes Askold sitting there was a collector of tribute for the Khazars until Helg came and killed him
        3. rodevaan
          rodevaan 23 March 2015 12: 33
          +1
          - Nobody Kiev DENIES! He was and will be the mother of Russian cities! And he must return to Russia. And he will return to Russia.
          Just everything has its time.
      3. FM-78
        FM-78 20 March 2015 23: 31
        +16
        Ukraine - no, there are lands that Potemkin SK brought to Russia (Kherson, Nikolaev, Nikopol, Ochakov and Odessa) and there are other lands (Lviv, Vinnitsa, etc.), please do NOT MISTRATE !!!
    2. Finches
      Finches 20 March 2015 22: 15
      +23
      Left-bank Ukraine! This is Russia! Kiev and Odessa .... - this is Russia!
      Lviv, Ivano - Frankivsk ... - tse Europe, but our people live there too, whom we should not humiliate, as we have allowed humiliation in the Baltic countries !!!
      1. Krasmash
        Krasmash 20 March 2015 22: 37
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Lviv, Ivano - Frankivsk ... - tse Europe, but our people live there too, whom we should not humiliate, as we have allowed humiliation in the Baltic countries !!!

        I would like to repatriate these people.
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 18
          +7
          Quote: Krasmash
          Quote: Finches
          Lviv, Ivano - Frankivsk ... - tse Europe, but our people live there too, whom we should not humiliate, as we have allowed humiliation in the Baltic countries !!!

          I would like to repatriate these people.

          It is better to deport other "people" or, even better, to isolate ...
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 15
        +11
        Quote: Finches
        Left-bank Ukraine! This is Russia! Kiev and Odessa .... - this is Russia!
        Lviv, Ivano - Frankivsk ... - tse Europe, but our people live there too, whom we should not humiliate, as we have allowed humiliation in the Baltic countries !!!

        You will be surprised, but even Bialystok is part of Russia, although, at present, the former ...
        About Alaska, Aleuts and Hokkaido, I do not say ...
        1. Finches
          Finches 20 March 2015 23: 33
          +1
          No, we won’t be surprised, and this is not entirely true!
        2. Kassandra
          Kassandra 21 March 2015 08: 28
          +1
          Hawaii, Antarctica, Svalbard ...

          pinned when, on March 20, during a solar eclipse observation, the announcer said that in Russia it would be best to watch him in Murmansk and in Barentsburg laughing love good

          for the second time she said "Russian village" in Svalbard. laughing love

          This gift was to all of us, and to this day, jam md, S.V. Lavrov. laughing
          how interesting is this bastard Norway to react?
        3. andrew42
          andrew42 23 March 2015 09: 49
          +1
          One can feel a lot nostalgic for what lands. But the land is inhabited by people, and if the majority of this population does not consider themselves Russians, then, unfortunately, this is no longer the Russian Land. The opposite example is Kaliningrad, in our time, no German lands. You need to look at the world around you more realistically. Poles are the closest genetic relatives of Belarusians and Russians, but their brains are angry Russophobes with a split along 3 lines: 1) mutual historical grievances 2) Catholicism vs Byzantine Church (Both are imposed on 2 Slavic centers from the outside and in about the same historical period), 3) the predatory and consumable cult of the British-American world against the cult of autocracy-construction and the triumph of the spirit on blood (the latter cannot be thrown out, because as it was sung by "Helavisa" - "cruel my God, God the Sun!"). In short, what the population is, so is the land.
      3. FM-78
        FM-78 20 March 2015 23: 34
        -4
        Kiev is no longer Russia, but not yet Lviv.
        1. anakonda
          anakonda 21 March 2015 06: 53
          +7
          Quote: FM-78
          Kiev is no longer Russia, but not yet Lviv.

          Dear Mikhail, I didn’t give you a minus, I put minuses in very rare cases, but I want to say that if the Russian people are divided this way, soon Siberia will no longer be Russia. And the problem, in my opinion, is that the Russian economy weak, if Russia had a strong economy or if it made a major leap forward in the economy, then there would not be a question of Ukraine’s affiliation, then Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, and even, harmful Poland were would be Russia.
          1. smith7
            smith7 21 March 2015 08: 45
            +3
            In your opinion, only material well-being affects national identity? Unfortunately, you are not the only one ... "Muscovites have ruined the housing problem." Even in the 30s of the twentieth century, the well-known Bulgakov noticed that the people lost their value guidelines and replaced them with a craving for material well-being. Poland and others do not need to be Russia. We must build our own world and maintain good relations with neighbors. All people are different and globalism in the form of "one size fits all" harms the excellent good neighborliness.
            1. anakonda
              anakonda 21 March 2015 09: 56
              +1
              Dear Dmitry, When I write that Russia, if it were economically strong, then different states would be Russia, then I express myself figuratively, that is, I do not think that they will directly become part of Russia, but they would be good neighbors and friendly countries.
            2. rodevaan
              rodevaan 23 March 2015 12: 40
              +1
              Quote: smith7
              In your opinion, only material well-being affects national identity?


              - Unfortunately, the "brothers" - the Slavs - yes. There was the Warsaw Pact - the "brothers" were with us. The USSR collapsed - they are all Russophobes and they are all in NATO. And dig up any historical period - it has always been so. While they are being trampled, they are with Russia and they are brothers. As soon as we save - everyone, they are with the west.
          2. FM-78
            FM-78 23 March 2015 01: 46
            0
            Not everything can be bought, but Bulgaria, the Czech Republic and others like them, sorry they are not subjects (If you understand)
      4. My doctor
        My doctor 21 March 2015 09: 25
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Left-bank Ukraine! This is Russia! Kiev and Odessa .... - this is Russia!
        Lviv, Ivano - Frankivsk ... - tse Europe, but our people live there too, whom we should not humiliate, as we have allowed humiliation in the Baltic countries !!!

        You can even even more accurately localize it - the Carpathians, the Carpathians and their Gutsuls who speak their own dialect of the Ukrainian language (which, unlike the Kiev language, cannot be distinguished). Though very little is familiar with them, but the impression of the conversations is this. I can’t imagine what should happen for them to recognize themselves as part of Russia, they are ready to call themselves anyone but not Russian. Russia is their sworn enemy for centuries.
        1. Kassandra
          Kassandra 21 March 2015 09: 53
          +1
          Hutsuls are polished Hungarians.
      5. Karabanov
        Karabanov 21 March 2015 11: 53
        +3
        I do not understand these attempts to return Ukraine to the ecumenical world of Russia. Well, they do not want and to hell with them ...
        Russian-speaking areas must be annexed to Russia (our compatriots are there), and let the rest roll and jump on.
        They sold out, renounced history, culture and common spiritual values. I don't need such "brothers". Their Maidan was ideologically clear, but what did it turn into, who did they turn into? On this score, I liked how Zadornov said - “Ukraine is a country where people who are tired of living poorly, gathered and began to live even worse”.
        And indeed their current existence is fueled by only one thing - hatred of Russia. And in me, this frantic jumping biomass does not cause anything but contempt.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 21 March 2015 12: 09
          +1
          It is not that simple. What will be the consequences of the fact that our borders will have a state with millions of people whose only ideology is hatred of Russia? At a minimum, this will be a constant headache and a source of all kinds of provocations.
    3. poquello
      poquello 20 March 2015 22: 36
      +5
      Quote: Vezhchel
      The West has always sought to "tear" Ukraine away from Russia, to oppose Ukrainians to Russians.

      Well, I don't know about "always", but the peoples of all Soviet republics are trying to tear the bourgeoisie away from Russia and quarrel
      1. bort4145
        bort4145 20 March 2015 22: 58
        +31
        In short, not on the topic, but there is a desire to share a cool bike or a story
        In general, during the Second World War, the Red Army was armed with a lot of rockets. The most famous of them - M-13, they were installed on the first "Katyusha". We will not list them all, but focus on the M-20 and M-30, because these rockets are considered the beginning of heavy rocket artillery.
        M-13 for their time, of course, were good! Unexpected and massive shelling in the German ranks caused terrible srach and so on, but for full-fledged offensive operations, the M-13 was little suited due to weak damage. After all, it was necessary to destroy both heavy equipment and enemy fortifications.
        Somewhere by the middle of the 1942 of the year the M-20 entered service with the Red Army, the warhead of which was three and a half times more powerful than the M-13. Very soon they adopted the M-30 - six times more powerful than the M-13.

        The M-20 was easily bolted to the Katyusha, but due to the slightly larger size, these rockets had to be fired in one row, and not in two, like the M-13. But for M-30 the guides could not be altered in any way (it is worth noting that they were added to the Katyusha, but only in 1944). Therefore, to launch the M-30, we installed launchers with the simplest tilt angle adjustment system ...
        Four, and then eight M-30s were laid on such a machine, right in the factory packaging of the packaging. The volley was carried out using a conventional electric sapper machine, and, as a rule, several launch machines were included in the target. The simultaneity of the launch was ensured by the addition of shock pulses, which greatly enhanced the effect compared to individual starts.

        And so, due to the usual and understandable reluctance of end users to read the documentation (or rather, the manuals diverged on self-rolls), the following happened on the battlefields. During preparation for launch, they often forgot to remove the spacers holding the projectile in a wooden box (factory packaging) during transportation.

        If the spacers were not removed, then all this x * eta started with the box, and there were times that with the machine!
        This design had dimensions of about 1,5 by 2 meters, which led to conversations among the Germans that the Russians were completely * eaten and shoot at them with sheds!
        1. GSVG
          GSVG 21 March 2015 00: 45
          +5
          This design had dimensions of about 1,5 by 2 meters, which led to conversations among the Germans that the Russians were completely * eaten and shoot at them with sheds! lol WELL GRANDFATHER !!! FUN !!!!!!!!!!!! WITH THE SON ON "RIGHT". ATP FOR A HISTORICAL STORY! hi
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 28
        +3
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Vezhchel
        The West has always sought to "tear" Ukraine away from Russia, to oppose Ukrainians to Russians.

        Well, I don't know about "always", but the peoples of all Soviet republics are trying to tear the bourgeoisie away from Russia and quarrel

        Bourgeois, it’s only in the New and Modern Times, and before there were feudal lords, even earlier there were slave owners ... All of them are spiritual heirs of the Mediterranean civilizations of the past based on inequality ... In short, this is a very ancient infection ... Initially, in Russia it did not have...
        1. poquello
          poquello 21 March 2015 01: 35
          0
          Quote: PENZYAC
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Vezhchel
          The West has always sought to "tear" Ukraine away from Russia, to oppose Ukrainians to Russians.

          Well, I don't know about "always", but the peoples of all Soviet republics are trying to tear the bourgeoisie away from Russia and quarrel

          Bourgeois, it’s only in the New and Modern Times, and before there were feudal lords, even earlier there were slave owners ... All of them are spiritual heirs of the Mediterranean civilizations of the past based on inequality ... In short, this is a very ancient infection ... Initially, in Russia it did not have...

          the bourgeois is from Arkady Gaidar
          - What country is it? - exclaimed then surprised Chief
          Bourgeois. - What is this incomprehensible country in which
          even such kids know the Military Secret and hold their
          hard word?
    4. Penzyac
      Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 11
      0
      Quote: Vezhchel
      The West has always sought to "tear" Ukraine away from Russia, to oppose Ukrainians to Russians.

      "As old as the world" principle - divide and rule ...
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 20 March 2015 23: 39
        +40
        A good answer to the article .. and there’s nothing to add (from my point of view ..)
        1. Russian063
          Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 16
          +3
          And they don’t give ... not a penny ... not a euro cent .... So what if a retired official expressed his opinion? Poured into dill loot .. pour in and will pour in until the current ukrovlast will maintain a hotbed of tension in the southeast. While the Banderlog are jumping and shouting "Sala to Ukraine", while blood is pouring .... all these unofficial persons over the hill are so ... at the level of conversations in the kitchen, even if they speak loudly and in front of the camera. Merkel is out, then one sculpts, then another ... The Great Black Baboon will kick - and the sanctions will be extended ...
          Something needs to be done with Americosia .... Ukraine is just a territory that fell under the power of the Nazis ... By and large, people are reproached for being ashamed of being buried in minks ... No one knows if he will come home from work or right-wingers lustration it on the boulevard or even multiply it by ZERO.
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    5. Arh
      Arh 20 March 2015 23: 48
      +3
      In Ukraine, most Russians then other nations are Greeks, Armenians, Tatars, Rusyns, Belarusians, Hungarians, Romanians, Muldovans, Poles, Slovaks, sorry no such nation is Ukrainian !!!!!!! wink
      1. Russian063
        Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 18
        +1
        and you open the passport of a Ukrainian ... somewhere there should be a mark that he is a natural "Svidomo".
    6. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 21 March 2015 00: 14
      +2
      If you want to pick up a cookie, pull on it and continue to pull, then most likely it will fall into several parts. In the best case, you will get only part of this cookie.


      They already pulled the "cookie" and tore it apart. Crimea is a piece of "cookie" that we got. The rest (except for Donbass) is tormented by a black Doberman.
    7. Denis fj
      Denis fj 21 March 2015 00: 17
      +1
      "The inhabitants of Ukraine are Russians, the overwhelming majority of them are ethnic Russians."
      It is unlikely that Nikolai Vasilievich Gogol would agree with such a statement. Here is what the great Russian writer wrote in 1840 in response to a letter from a friend of his:
      "Who I am - a crest or a Russian - I don't know myself. I only know that I would not give any advantage to a Little Russian over a Russian, or a Russian over a Little Russian. Both natures are generously gifted by God, but, as if on purpose, EACH OF THEM INCLUDES THAT WHAT IS NOT IN THE OTHER is a clear sign that they must replenish one another. "
      1. Russian063
        Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 19
        +2
        And again .. N.V. does not say the word "Ukrainian". RUSSIAN ...
    8. Denis fj
      Denis fj 21 March 2015 00: 19
      -12
      If "Ukraine is Russia", then it is just another Russia, Russia, oriented in the other direction and towards other values. And who decided that there can be only one Russia, and such as you, citizens of the Russian Federation, want to see it? Look, Korah two - and, nothing, live. True, also without love :)
      And Ukrainians in this logic are other Russians, such Russians who do not want to be Russians of your kind. And who will force? Does anyone know a way to make a person be what he does not want to be? For example, for example, I definitely do not want to be Russian, and I will certainly never be Russian. And my children will not be. So, what is next? Well, the maximum you can do is try to destroy us on this basis.
      Russian guys, we are not imposed on you as relatives. To become you is a disaster for us, it’s better to really die :) Well, that’s the way it’s better to die than to become Russian. Or Chinese :) (By the way, American, Australian, Pole and Jew - it’s quite possible, many of my friends have already become, nothing, perfectly alive, but it’s impossible for Russians, well, it’s just a complete mess).
      Do not be fooled by illusions - in the foreseeable future, you and Ukrainians will not be brothers or in any other way as one. So get used to living in the rays of our hatred and contempt for you.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 21 March 2015 02: 30
        +3
        Quote: denis fj
        For example, for example, I definitely do not want to be Russian, and I will certainly never be Russian. And my children will not be. So, what is next? Well, the maximum you can do is try to destroy us on this basis.

        You die fool
      2. Lyudmila Shagaeva
        Lyudmila Shagaeva 21 March 2015 04: 38
        +11
        I feel sorry for you. You have an inferiority complex and ENVY, elementary human ENVY. And you need something quite a bit - WORK. For 23 years (now 24) they have been procrastinating the Holodomor (in Russia they have long condemned this black page of History, name the country without black pages), but they rode with an outstretched hand "Give me a penny ..." for free". And you are torn to Europe for a piece of pie, and there you also need to WORK. But you will not become Europeans either, there, as well as in Russia, they do not like traitors. "The Khokhol will eat bread with you, And then he will shit in your soup." T.G. Shevchenko 1851
        Russians do not have hatred and contempt for you, we "guys-Russians" feel sorry for you.
      3. EvgNik
        EvgNik 21 March 2015 05: 30
        +8
        "Well, that's right - it's better to die than to become a Russian. Or a Chinese :) (By the way, an American, Australian, Pole and a Jew - it's quite possible, many of my friends have already become, nothing, they are perfectly alive, but Russian is absolutely impossible, well, just a complete mess). "

        I don’t understand how with such thinking on this resource you could rise to the marshal? Or for the time being encrypted?
      4. Russian063
        Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 24
        +7
        Change your flag, otherwise it’s all YOUR Russia. YOUR sense ....
        If you die in the territory of the former USSR - we, the Russians, and not just the Russians, will grieve. And the fact that you will survive in the situation that, with your tacit consent, was built by the Black Baboon, the Chocolate Eye of Parash and KALO-moysha, I doubt it. The IMF cannot forgive debts.
        We do not care for the contempt for us of the Nazis and law-abiding radicals. When the enemy is angry, then we are doing everything right.
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      6. Hagakure
        Hagakure 21 March 2015 09: 23
        +3
        Nobody asks you to become Russian, and even more so does not force you, you do not forget your Slavic roots, otherwise you have found "friends", do you yourself not disgust to see these faces at home?
      7. Ribwort
        Ribwort 21 March 2015 10: 21
        +3
        Quote: denis fj
        So get used to living in the rays of our hatred and contempt for you.

        But would you not despise and hate us from an independent one? Well in St. Petersburg that warmed up?
        I read your previous comments, did not understand anything. As if two different people were writing ...
      8. Aleksander
        Aleksander 21 March 2015 10: 33
        +3
        Well, the best you can is try to destroy us on this basis..

        But who needs you, suffering from an inferiority complex, in order to also destroy fool We are talking about normal people whom you torment your Svidomo.

        Well, that’s how it’s better to die than to become Russian

        Yes, yes, only here millions of Little Russians became Russian long ago and live in Russia, only their names remind them of their roots - Matvienko, Medynsky, etc.

    9. GSH-18
      GSH-18 21 March 2015 01: 00
      0
      Now, fuss about the question, HOW NANO ??? And what about us ?????

      HOW DOES ANSWER THIS?
    10. Setrac
      Setrac 21 March 2015 01: 04
      0
      Quote: Vezhchel
      The West has always sought to "tear" Ukraine away from Russia, to oppose Ukrainians to Russians.

      Exactly, this is the work of the West, and not at all the "sick Russians" in Ukraine. They are trying to shift the crimes committed in Ukraine onto the Russian citizens of Ukraine.
      1. shultc
        shultc 23 March 2015 09: 40
        0
        In 50-100 years there will be a second Pereyaslavskaya Rada. And then it will be necessary to think hard: do we need such "brothers" Svidomo.
    11. hrough
      hrough 22 March 2015 22: 23
      +3
      "... - I agree! We must not slander, but postulate ... Then what to stand on until the last.

      - For example?

      - First, Ukrainians, as a nation, do not exist. The second - everyone who considers themselves Ukrainians - deceived Russians. Following. Ukrainian, this is a deliberately warped Russian with a massive admixture of foreign words. Further: the deception lasts more than one century, is aimed at splitting the Russians as a nation, and the separation of the ancestral territories from Russia - its historical heart. And, lastly, every Svidomo Ukrainian is a traitor!

      - All?

      - All! The rest is derived from the base.

      - That's why they will hang you ...

      - For this - ready to be hanged ... "
      Gleb Bobrov, "The Age of the Stillborn"
      1. Kassandra
        Kassandra 23 March 2015 02: 20
        0
        Well, not a table, but a little over a hundred years if you count the Austrian efforts in Galicia, and less than a hundred years if you count the efforts of the Trotskyists and Khrushchevites (at first the scum was a troscist).
    12. ilysha
      ilysha 22 March 2015 23: 40
      +4
      I was always surprised by people who write that Ukrainians and Russians are 2 different nations. What does Ukrainian mean? This means what the Russian means. Those. citizen of Ukraine and Russia. And so all Ukrainians are the Russian people, they just developed their own dialect, their own culture. If you pay attention to the Caucasus - there is the same thing, one nation can speak in different ways, depending on the place of residence. So the Ukrainians speak differently. If we go back to Rus - were there really "Ukrainians" and separately "Russians"? My roommate is also called x * crap, but he replies: "I am not c * ck, I am Russian." They just can't tell the difference in our country, because there is no limit to stupidity. The same Russian living on the territory of Dagestan will remain Russian, and the Avar (such nationality) will be Dagestan. A Tajik born and raised in Dagestan will forever remain a Tajik in Russia. Do you understand why I am all this? Here people cannot even distinguish the nation of a person. Some people think that the Dagestani is a nationality - AHAKHAKHA. I AM MOSCOW, GUYS, THE NATION IS SUCH!
      1. Kassandra
        Kassandra 23 March 2015 02: 30
        +1
        Muromets mine never crest ... sad and rests in the Kiev Pechersk Lavra.
    13. bobrb1281
      bobrb1281 23 March 2015 10: 19
      0
      Unfortunately, they do it.
  2. saniajan
    saniajan 20 March 2015 21: 55
    +14
    Ukraine is a region of Russia, the same as Tver, St. Petersburg, Samara. Imagine a wide Ryazan or Yekaterinburg Svidomo ...
    1. YohanPalych
      YohanPalych 20 March 2015 22: 29
      +2
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Ukraine is a region of Russia, the same as Tver, St. Petersburg, Samara. Imagine a wide Ryazan or Yekaterinburg Svidomo ...


      Presented ... (hypothetically). Shuddered. (From horror and loathing). Ryazan and Yekaterinburg- hi
    2. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 20 March 2015 23: 04
      +3
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Ukraine is a region of Russia, the same as Tver, St. Petersburg, Samara. Imagine a wide Ryazan or Yekaterinburg Svidomo ...

      Modern Ukraine still needs to earn a place among these regions ... And the historical Russian (Soviet) - praise and honor, songs and poems ...
  3. Stoler
    Stoler 20 March 2015 22: 07
    +17
    The mere fact that all these creatures in the emotional dialogue go to the Russian language - says a lot! I am sure that at home they speak Russian AND THINK IN RUSSIAN! And on MOVE tryndyat with an accent! Two-Faced POPPERS!
    1. Dmitrik
      Dmitrik 20 March 2015 23: 46
      +4
      Not just two-faced, but three-faced creatures - these kakly brothers even swear in pure Russian!
    2. Russian063
      Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 37
      0
      Two-faced ANUS laughing
  4. terrible
    terrible 20 March 2015 22: 08
    +18
    Ukrainians-Judas of the Russian clan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Dmitrik
      Dmitrik 21 March 2015 00: 03
      -1
      They are just Asiopes!
    2. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 21 March 2015 00: 10
      +4
      Quote: formidable
      Ukrainians-Judas of the Russian clan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      You are in vain. They are just sheep, led by the BARAN !!! And he leads them to the slaughter ... But Judas (Smoked) leads this procession ... And the "smoked" is also led ... But far from LAMB ...
    3. rodevaan
      rodevaan 23 March 2015 12: 48
      +1
      Quote: formidable
      Ukrainians-Judas of the Russian clan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


      - Do not confuse everything in one pile. There are dill, and there are Ukrainians. Make a difference. Nazi freaks who gotzatsya on the Maidan and screaming all nonsense-this is dill. And people who want normal good neighborly relations spit on all this wide nonsense and work in mines and factories - these are Ukrainians.
  5. tuts
    tuts 20 March 2015 22: 08
    0
    Russia is my country. Ukraine is a neighboring country. Therefore, only when they themselves hold a referendum and ask to consider joining Russia. And if you look at their channels and read their press, analyze their moods, then what for us partisan territory (they’ve been preparing to blow up and kill for 20 years) My opinion, the development path is the unification of the BRICS into a single military economic union and the directing of all forces into space, the resources are not infinite; something needs to be prepared for the children of our children
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 20 March 2015 22: 31
      +7
      Russia is my country. Ukraine is a neighboring country.

      On the one hand, it is true, but this fact is historically formed and the "historicity" of this fact, the essence of a couple of decades of brainwashing, that in the historical period of the development of the state there is nothing, and you can still fix it ... (I would like to believe it)
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 20 March 2015 23: 13
      +2
      Quote: tots
      Therefore, only when they themselves hold a referendum and ask will it be necessary to consider the possibility of joining Russia

      The referendum was held when the USSR was torn apart. The majority (one might say - overwhelming!) Spoke in favor of preserving the Union. SOMEONE REMEMBERED ABOUT THIS? .. It is not necessary to hold a referendum - it is enough to add, based on the results of the held. But the use of force to establish constitutional order is now "unfashionable".
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 21 March 2015 05: 37
        +3
        Who voted - he remembers and will not forget. And those who betrayed their people and went against their will, we will not forget.
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 37
      +2
      Quote: tots
      Russia is my country Ukraine is a neighboring country ...

      Ukraine is a part of my country (Russia) temporarily (I hope) turned by the enemies of Russia into a neighboring country ... The country (neighboring), by virtue of its artificiality, turned out to be one continuous misunderstanding, and now, moreover, it is also "mad". ..
    4. tuts
      tuts 21 March 2015 08: 53
      +8
      I’ll explain my thought; I don’t want to participate in this
  6. boroda64
    boroda64 20 March 2015 22: 15
    +1
    ......
    - "Ukraine is Russia"
    ..
    that's just the population-not that ..
    / need to be changed ../
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 39
      0
      Quote: boroda64
      ......
      - "Ukraine is Russia"
      ..
      that's just the population-not that ..
      / need to be changed ../

      Hopefully not physically? ...
      1. ne58mchin
        ne58mchin 21 March 2015 00: 24
        -1
        Better chemically!
      2. Izya Katzman
        Izya Katzman 22 March 2015 19: 21
        +1
        You just need the Goebbels mouthpiece (the media) to work the other way, and not like it is now. And in a few years we will get a new Ukraine.
  7. staryivoin
    staryivoin 20 March 2015 22: 17
    +3
    Perhaps Alexey, and most likely you are right, but the operators of this infection and the disguise of this sect just do not want anyone to interfere with the development of this project. And for them it is not very important how much money is spent, for them the main result of this special operation is so far, and yet it promises much greater profits.
    What the Kremlin is doing is very correct, it is very specific, but it helps to block this terrible disease on the Slavic land. And he tries very hard to show the whole SANE human community what awaits him in the final phase of the "disease" development.
    And most importantly, a split appeared in the EU regarding the "diagnosis" offered to the entire world community !!! So let's trust that "our therapy" will be more successful than the opinion of the "bone breakers" in Fushington. However, one must understand that the "treatment" will not be short ...
  8. patriot of Russia
    patriot of Russia 20 March 2015 22: 17
    +2
    "... Less hypocrisy and playing giveaway with our enemy, more truth and common sense. It would be more useful for all of us ..." - for sure good ! Well written! one remark ... not a dog Omerika, but a hyena ...
    1. Russian063
      Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 39
      0
      jackal
  9. CRONOS
    CRONOS 20 March 2015 22: 21
    0
    Ukraine is Russia
    Oh God forbid ... pah-pah-pah
    "If you want to destroy any union, then take Poland into it." (Or Ukraine)
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 20 March 2015 22: 54
      +1
      CRONOS
      Muscovite?
  10. Ignatius
    Ignatius 20 March 2015 22: 25
    0
    Omerika, or rather its United States, must be destroyed!
  11. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 20 March 2015 22: 25
    +2
    Sometimes bringing to life is achieved only by bloodletting!
  12. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 20 March 2015 22: 28
    +14
    That's right! this is the same if in Ryazan I start wearing an ax on my belt, some local "embroidered shirts", and hate the "Vladimir", "Murom" and "Novgorod" for the fact that when the Tatar-Mongol army Ryazan was held under siege, due to the politics of that time, they did not send help and gave them the opportunity to seize and burn the city ... I love and respect my land, my city, I am Ryazan, God knows in what generation, there is a village where the graves of my ancestors are already from the 19th century, but I am RUSSIAN! although some say (I naturally do not notice this) that Ryazanets has its own "accent", so what?)) Each city of Russia has its own unique history, its own culture, but it is nonsense to talk about "Ryazan nationalism" or Mordovian nationalism for example ?!))) In general, "ukrainstvo" is nonsense!
    1. Alex250834
      Alex250834 20 March 2015 22: 49
      +9
      back in 2007 he moved to work in Mordovia. yes, there is a lot of talk about Mordovian nationalities, theses like "we have the best roads", Olympic reserve schools, native speech all around, street names in three languages ​​are spelled out, there are 3 peoples in Mordovia itself, everything national is exalted and glorified ... and from the screens did not go then - Putin and Merkushkin (and Putin just came to Saransk for the festival of Finno-Ugric peoples) ...
      but no one can even imagine for himself the secession of the republic from the Russian Federation. a bunch of social programs from the republican and federal budgets - build, develop, work! all conditions !!!
      though Mordva - but everywhere there are banners - Mordovia and Russia - friendship forever !!!
      and no hassles and claims for Russophobia !!!
    2. Russian063
      Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 42
      0
      Delirium is not delirium, but in Mordovia there are also nationalists ... and they also hate Russians living in 50 km laughing that's it. I would not want to consider the entire map of the administrative division of Russia ....
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 21 March 2015 21: 03
        0
        Delirium is not delirium, but Mordovia has its own nationalists ...

        Yes, I agree that there is, but I think and hope that there are very few ... about as many patients as a mental hospital can put smile
  13. vanavatny
    vanavatny 20 March 2015 22: 31
    +6
    yes, and here it’s possible to argue only about how, when and why some of the Russians (Slavs, if you like) filled the lands of the modern suburbs, in these historical wilds you can wander for as long as time. ), a wild level of education allows you to bring any nonsense: ancient Ukrainians ... but at least a sauron with Nazguls. And besides, I think that the United States should be destroyed
    1. Days
      Days 21 March 2015 00: 12
      -1
      Vanya, you forgot to add that you believe Putin.
  14. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 20 March 2015 22: 33
    +14
    Harness, and there is grass tryn .. Russia will pay!
  15. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 20 March 2015 22: 36
    +5
    Ukraine is Russia .... In the light of recent events, I doubt it .. It is tantamount to comparing a person and a monkey. According to Darwin (I do not share his theory), almost the same thing, but if you look at two individuals ..oooo. A person turns into a primacy under certain conditions. Here territorial formation of Ukraine with living people for twenty years turned into a monkey, although they came from one tree ....
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 52
      +3
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Ukraine is Russia .... In the light of recent events, I doubt it. ... A person turns into a primate under certain conditions. ...

      If a normal person is well drunk, he will not differ much from the "broad Ukrainian", or even worse, but this does not mean that a person can no longer sober up ...
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 21 March 2015 00: 14
        0
        Quote: PENZYAC
        but this does not mean that a person can no longer sober up ...

        With all due respect, Andrey, and fundamentally agreeing with the thesis - "alcoholism" with more than 20 years of experience is almost hopeless.
    2. Russian063
      Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 44
      0
      And only a monkey does not turn into a person under any circumstances .... from strength to a smart monkey.
    3. andrew42
      andrew42 23 March 2015 10: 07
      0
      Don't grieve like that. What is called "Ukrainian nationalism" is a natural process of ethnogenesis: a part of the ethnos accepts the values ​​of the anti-system, degrades and dies out, leaves the historical arena. The surviving part gains experience that allows it to transform into a qualitatively new, viable people. From the point of view of ethnogenesis, according to Gumilyov, the result is quite predictable: Donbass and Eastern Ukraine will go through purification by fire, withstand, will join Russia, and even, most likely, will become the most passionate part of the Russian superethnos. Western Ukraine in its "nazi-frenzy" comes to its senses under the formal "control" of Hungary, Poland and Romania, but in reality under the world transnational Judeocratic syndicate. After the pseudo-national intoxication melts, this population will lose any national identity, the descendants of "Svidomo" will become Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, and God knows who. Someone may have time to fall to Belarus and enroll in Belarus. But the end is the same: the "edge" nationality, unfortunately for the ancestors of the times of Taras Bulba and Nalivaiko, did not take place. What do you call a yacht .. Calling a suburb, it is difficult to become a unifying state-forming center - the Word was in the Beginning! (the program of the outskirts in the subconscious works according to the name - to whom to stick to, whose outskirts to become).
  16. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 20 March 2015 22: 38
    +2
    To begin with, it is necessary that the outskirts, as a state, cease to exist. No republican center - only regional. Kiev is only one of the regional centers, no more. No autonomy. So, as separate regions, as subjects of the Russian Federation, into Russia.
    1. Russian063
      Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 47
      0
      they are not needed as part of Russia. or did you live too quietly? Do not explode at home? do not shoot in the streets? wait ... or do you know how to identify a fascist by the expression of Svidomo eyes? to separate him from a law-abiding citizen?
      Well, or in your city ofigensky excess of highly paid jobs? no unemployment? unemployed Ukrainians are unlikely to go to the posts of shitters and cleaners. Everything is far from straightforward ... so to join - not to join, there is nothing to even think. There first have to solve your problems.
  17. Alex250834
    Alex250834 20 March 2015 22: 39
    +8
    I really want to ... so hit this Omerican head ... so that I don’t give the cookie away, but I’ve lost all my teeth !!!!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 53
      +1
      Quote: Alex250834
      I really want to ... so hit this Omerican head ... so that I don’t give the cookie away, but I’ve lost all my teeth !!!!

      And how to start ...
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 21 March 2015 00: 16
        +1
        Quote: PENZYAC
        And how to start ...

        laughing laughing laughing !!!
        ..Listen - he was laughing so hard that he read it! .. But we are at the same time risking - just imagine HOW MUCH shit.ma in this "dog"? wassat
  18. lopvlad
    lopvlad 20 March 2015 22: 51
    +2
    Ukraine is a kind of disease, more precisely a political sect disguised as a nation

    more precisely

    Ukraine is a kind of disease, or rather, a political and religious sect disguised as a nation.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 20 March 2015 23: 56
      0
      Quote: lopvlad
      Ukraine is a kind of disease, more precisely a political sect disguised as a nation

      more precisely

      Ukraine is a kind of disease, or rather, a political and religious sect disguised as a nation.

      But Bandera and Shukhevych - like, their gods (idols)? ...
  19. barclay
    barclay 20 March 2015 22: 51
    +8
    The Anglo-Saxons are very mean, but they are diligent in their mean undertakings. They imagined themselves to be masters since the time of colonial conquests. They poked their noses into every corner of the planet. Russia alone continues to resist this impudent onslaught for centuries. But the Anglo-Saxons do not stop looking for weak points in our living space, in order to begin to pull apart our vast territory and use its resources. Unfortunately, Ukraine, as an artificially knit territory, which got the opportunity to exist independently and turned out to be this weak point in the Russian world. Too fertile ground for the disintegration of the Russian consciousness was formed there. This "Anglo-Saxon dog" clung to it.
    Good, figurative example with a cookie. But, if it is possible to hit this dog over the head, then not immediately. And the decomposition of morality and conscience is already in full swing there. And will Russia need such moral u ... d? And what to do with them? What can I say, if in Ukraine for fun they give the name to the pies "Russian baby with a crispy crust." And this is where someone is having fun.
    1. FM-78
      FM-78 20 March 2015 23: 38
      0
      Well, I totally agree.
    2. Lyudmila Shagaeva
      Lyudmila Shagaeva 21 March 2015 04: 51
      +2
      Unhappy !!! Sorry for the Ukrainians. Only they can, what to gallop, to scramble around the world, and steal (gas). They need to be treated if there is enough money.
    3. Russian063
      Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 51
      0
      Well, if it is rewound with bacon, then it’s rather Ukrainian ....
  20. Iskras
    Iskras 20 March 2015 22: 53
    +4
    Amazingly reasonable article! That's it to the last letter!
  21. Don Cesar
    Don Cesar 20 March 2015 22: 55
    +8
    Quote: formidable
    Ukrainians-Judas of the Russian clan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Vanya is not worth all under one comb! in my family even though they are not, but in my trench they are full! and they proudly say: I am Ukrainian, but not Svidomo! Feel the difference? It’s like: either a German or a fascist!
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 20 March 2015 23: 30
      +1
      Of course it is. Moreover, we have what we have. Namely, a certain part of the Russian world recognizes itself ethnically not belonging to the Russians. And to oppose us to them only intensify the conflict and transfer it to Russia. It is necessary to leave the fascist fascist. But it seems that without the absorption of most of Ukraine by Russia, this ulcer will periodically break up. While there is some kind of confrontation with the west.
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 21 March 2015 00: 02
      0
      Quote: don sesar
      Quote: formidable
      Ukrainians-Judas of the Russian clan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Vanya is not worth all under one comb! in my family even though they are not, but in my trench they are full! and they proudly say: I am Ukrainian, but not Svidomo! Feel the difference? It’s like: either a German or a fascist!

      It’s like: I’m penyak and Russian, or, for example, as A. Wasserman says that he is Jewish, but Russian (Soviet) ...
      The Ukrainians are also: there are Russian Ukrainians and there are spiritually sick - anti-Russian ("svidomye"), mankurt kinship not remembering ...
  22. Irkut
    Irkut 20 March 2015 22: 58
    -2
    "Ukrainians are a kind of disease, although it would be more accurate to say - a POLITICAL SECT DISCOVERING A NATION in the generally accepted sense of the word. Belonging to" Ukrainians "means belonging to a sect."

    There is no need to invent anything. Ukrainians have the right to national self-determination. They just carry it out using unsuitable means. In a country where the majority of it is really Russian and Russian-speaking, violence of a minority against the majority should not be used. If, in fact, the territory of "pure" Ukraine is not larger than Lithuania or Belarus, and in order to preserve the state, Ukrainians need to live with Russians in peace. To recognize Russian as the second state language, not to impose on it "our" heroes Bandera and Shukhevych, etc. And most importantly, to be friends with Russia.
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 20 March 2015 23: 21
      +4
      The fact of the matter is that there is no "clean" Ukraine.
    2. FM-78
      FM-78 20 March 2015 23: 40
      0
      Where did you grab so many minuses, tell me comrade.
      1. Russian063
        Russian063 21 March 2015 06: 54
        0
        many put a minus without even reading the gist of the post.
    3. avia1991
      avia1991 21 March 2015 00: 25
      0
      Quote: Irkut
      Ukrainians have the right to national self-determination

      THERE ARE NO SUCH NATION! How can it not reach you ?!
      There is no NATION of "great dill" - there are Slavs, Rus, who lived "At the edge of RUSSIA". Read the History - everything is clearly and clearly told there! And Orthodox Rus is Kievan Rus! AND NO UK.ROV THERE WAS IN REMINDER WHEN PRINCE VLADIMIR TAKEN BAPTISM! There were RUSS, RUSICH - our ancestors.
      1. Irkut
        Irkut 21 March 2015 02: 02
        0
        But what about Ukrainian culture, speech, songs? Everything flows, everything changes. Once there was one people, but now it is different. Can still Adam and Eve remember, everything came from them? But still, the Russians and Ukrainians were brothers and they will remain, despite the current difficult times. And your denial of their national identity only adds fuel to the fire.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 21 March 2015 02: 31
          +2
          Quote: Irkut
          But what about Ukrainian culture, speech, songs?

          WHAT "Ukrainian culture ?!"
          You will visit Orel, Belgorod, Bryansk .. in Rostov, finally! Listen, HOW people say there: you might think - they are non-Russian!
          Each locality has its own dialect, its own intonation. In the Slavic alphabet, many letters carried a semantic meaning, and "Ukraine", or "outskirts" - this is from the same opera: this is not a designation of the name of a nation, with the same success they could call the inhabitants of the Far East, for example - or the Chelyabinsk region.
          And cultural origins - yes, there are. Just as many regions of Russia have their own characteristics. "Belaya Rus", a geographical neighbor, exerted its influence on the inhabitants of the outskirts, the Magyars (Hungarians) - also neighbors - their own. These features are formed in a natural way - the Ukrainians also influenced their neighbors.
          Quote: Irkut
          denial of their national identity
          doesn’t add oil to any fire. NO HER, such a nation! It was announced, after the October Revolution, that it existed - and such a nationality appeared in the USSR: in fact, they determined a group of people, united by territory, into Ukrainians - that’s how it went.
          And then: why are they, sorry, all of them all speak Russian? Parashenko aglitsky knows better than "Ridnu Movu"!
    4. ne58mchin
      ne58mchin 21 March 2015 00: 33
      +3
      Yes, we do not need friendship with Ukrainians! Let them be friends with the West, we can do without them ..
  23. igorra
    igorra 20 March 2015 23: 06
    +4
    Regarding the snipers in Ferguson, it is tempting, but not our way, deprived of the grace of God. Russia has a different path, let the liberals shout about it what they want, therefore it is hard for us in Russia, the very concept of the path of truth puts pressure on us all that not everyone can bear the burden. Therefore, they will not see us standing up for the whole world, for their sacrifices laid for others, for their faith in the triumph of truth, for their forgiveness, even for their enemies, for their pity for the wretched and for the protection of the weak, but simply for their spiritual kindness and separately for our military glory and valor. Anger and fear takes them for what they understand: they can never be Russian ... and some of our neighbors refuse the roots of Russians and do not understand that it is not Russia that punishes them, but the Almighty repays them for their sins and rewards them for their deeds unrighteously. One hope that the Lord does not give unbearable sorrows and troubles - they will stop jumping, they will remember that they are also Russians, that they beat the bandandera and reached Berlin, then everything will be fine with them. Amen.
  24. uralex
    uralex 20 March 2015 23: 10
    +1
    Let's remember what the USA is - it's not the best part of Europeans + their slaves and a small remnant of the indigenous population, also captured by them ... Modern Ukraine resembles the USA of the XNUMXth century, consisting mainly of Russians, but who do not want to live in Russia ... special "love" of the United States to Ukraine, because they believe that Ukraine is following the path of the United States and is fighting for its "independence" from Russia ... This is one more reason why the United States is so actively "helping" it, making it almost its new state ...
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 21 March 2015 07: 02
      0
      Quote: uralex
      making her almost his new staff ...

      I won’t be surprised if Ukraine asks to accept it as part of the USA, because such (in their opinion) free-standing prospect opens ... there were Ukrainians, they will become merikantsi - even cooler than Europeans!
  25. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 20 March 2015 23: 11
    +2
    Svidomo-this is how it translates? -Bast-or worse?
    1. FM-78
      FM-78 20 March 2015 23: 43
      +1
      No, not so, but from our side the translation is very close.
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 21 March 2015 00: 28
      +1
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Bastard or worse?

      Well .. something like that. If you translate in print .. laughing
  26. isker
    isker 20 March 2015 23: 14
    +9
    if a person from childhood took not Russian, but - mov, then to teach-treat him - b-e-c-o-o-l-e-n-o!
  27. Tribuns
    Tribuns 20 March 2015 23: 23
    +5
    We all in Russia talk a lot and argue about the "Russian World", its present and future ...

    Let's take Slavic Poland ... This country, due to its Russophobic hysteria, is now “a cut above” the innate Russophobes-Balts: Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians ... And Slavic Poland not only ignores the “Russian world, but hates it ...”
    Slavic Ukraine (yes, it's 99% according to the author, Russians) - with its Russophobia "overlaps" even Poland ...
    Life has once again proved that you cannot trust "Svidomo" from Kiev!
    Everything about them is built on deception and lies, as their predecessors Bandera had earlier ...
    And in contrast to some of the author's assertions, I will repeat “A View from Ukraine”: “If anyone thinks that the people of Kiev have“ changed their minds ”after the Maidan, get these naive nonsense out of your head. Just the opposite situation is taking place - passions are heating up more and more, Russia is increasingly being blamed for all the problems. The atmosphere will become more and more aggravated, terror will begin ... The fall of the hryvnia, the rush in demand and the rise in prices are not enough to blow up Ukraine from within, even in the prospect of a further deterioration of the situation. Only a total military defeat will make the Ukrainian authorities kick up their hooves. Only an unsuccessful war…. And only with the most direct and direct involvement of Russia. This has been the case in all ages, and nothing has changed during this time in human nature ... "[http://warfiles.ru/show-83219-odessa-mstit-3.html]
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 23 March 2015 10: 26
      +1
      I agree. On the territory of Ukraine, a chimera state has been formed, moreover, at a subordinate level in relation to the pseudo-state of the USA. All the parameters are obvious: someone else's elite (Kolomoisky, Valtsmany, Yatsenyuki), different value systems for the elite and the herd, - one "cult of the Golden Calf", to other rams - "Cult of Bandera the pseudomartyr"; the main ideology is NEGATIVE, the denial of everything Russian as an attempt at self-identification; the only use of the forces of the population is "blood tribute" in the war against Russia; the basis of order is mercenary gangs with support from the mercenary army of the metropolitan chimera (USA). And history shows that CHIMERS DO NOT FALL BY THEMSELVES. Only from an external kick! And only after sucking all the resources from the oppressed slave population-substratum, and sucking the adjacent territories. I am of the opinion that the people of Kiev (and this is how you can call a typical resident who supports the Chimera government) - they have to bend for a very long time. Perhaps, until it grows old (and most likely will die out before reaching old age), the generation of the Maydanuts. Only after that, their children / younger brothers will be able to think, and what, in fact, are all material goods past their mouths, why in poverty and blood and fear. Before that, it is unlikely that Ukrainians, or rather former "Ukrainians", will somehow change the system of values ​​and stereotypes of behavior aimed today at self-destruction.
  28. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 20 March 2015 23: 25
    +13
    You need to water them all like our grandfathers and great-grandfathers .. And regret how Stalin is not worth it! I'm a Nazi face ..
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 21 March 2015 00: 32
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I'm a Nazi face, ..

      Ay-yay-yay, Mikhan, Miha-an! .. Probably you wanted to say "nationalist muzzle"? This is still understandable .. wink
  29. konvalval
    konvalval 20 March 2015 23: 38
    0
    Quote: Alexander 3
    Svidomo-this is how it translates? -Bast-or worse?

    Literally in literary translation it is knowledgeable.
    1. Russian063
      Russian063 21 March 2015 07: 03
      0
      cacol-orthodox ..))))
  30. ksv1973
    ksv1973 20 March 2015 23: 42
    +8
    I disagree with the author of the article. Ukraine is not Russia. Ukraine is the quintessence of what Russia should not be. For 23 years, HAVING EVERYTHING FOR NORMAL LIFE, to overthrow itself into KLOAKU - this even Russia, having gone through all the circles of hell since 1991, could not. They tried to shove her, Russia, into this mud in every possible way - they plundered, the generation of "chupa-chups" was raised ... And in the past since 1991 - what is Ukraine now and WHO is now Russia ?! In Russian cities, rallies under the slogan "Ukrainian to Gilyak" are not gathering, but humanitarian columns are gathering. Not from Russia to Ukraine, but from Ukraine to Russia, tens of thousands of people are walking on foot, leaving their homes and saving their lives.
    Ukraine is Russia ?????
  31. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov 20 March 2015 23: 44
    +1
    Now imagine that this angry dog ​​is the United States (or rather, Omerik is a country that is now very different in all respects, say from the classic US country 50-60x), a cookie is Ukraine (part of Russia, see p.1 above), and you (the one who is trying to pull a cookie from an angry dog) - and there is Russia.

    The correct strategy is not to pull the cookies at the risk of breaking them, but to hit the dog in the head. She opens the jaws of pain and thereby gives the cookie, it will not be up to her. This is the solution to the problem. She herself will release from the mouth of that in a fit of greed and captured that does not belong to her.

    Can it become cynical (to the extreme)? A couple of snipers in Ferguson, acting the same way as illegal and sneaky ACTED Americans in 1993 year at the Government House in Moscow or Kiev IN FEBRUARY 2014 years, are able to change the situation with the stability in the United States beyond recognition. Heavenly hundred Omariki.

    But Fergusons "there" can (or - should?) Be a lot. These elites of the Western world understand only power. This is commonplace. Well, it is necessary to implement it without any complexes. And we thereby preserve millions of lives, by the way, and on all continents.

    We will save billions and trillions of dollars, rubles and yuan that can be spent by mankind on research, medicine, the extension of people's lives, science, the development of civilization in general, and not on the arms race and on wars.

    Trite?

    Once again - yes.



    For a long time I said, you need to send Russian saboteurs there, but cut them all to hell! Or, make an accident.
    And the arms race, my friend will be there, It will always be. This genie, which you won’t push back into the bottle. Such is life, such is the nature of people ... It’s not sad. And if Russia will sleep again and look at everything through pink glasses, to think that the FSE is such-kind, peaceful, negligent-like Russia itself will repeat the same thing-that with the Russian Empire, the USSR-namely, another collapse of Russia, and possibly-the disappearance itself. Yes, Russia is good, kind force
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    2. Alex Danilov
      Alex Danilov 21 March 2015 00: 01
      +3
      Yes, Russia is good, kind, strong, smart. But this does not mean that Russia is not strong, not smart and not cunning. And strong, and smart, and cunning.
      The world is such that if you relax or believe in fairy tales — that someone wants to help you — they ate you right away ...
    3. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 21 March 2015 00: 25
      +3
      Quote: Alex Danilov
      For a long time I said, you need to send Russian saboteurs there, but cut them all to hell! Or, make an accident.

      Listen, how bloodthirsty you are! .. But I like it. Now in Omerik, apparently, all more or less sane people are at a dead end: they do not know what to say, what to do and therefore are silent. Then the word is taken by the notorious id ... you, who always have something to say, and who have never been listened to. So they fill the void. And the likelihood that such id..you will come to power increases. We must take preventive measures ... Or make a completely unpredictable and powerful move! "Surprised - I won!" - Suvorov used to say.
    4. andrew42
      andrew42 23 March 2015 10: 32
      0
      The example with the dog is valid. For imaginative thinking five! But ... an important point was missed: 70% of the cookie is already saturated with poisonous "dog" saliva. The cookie must be broken off, and most importantly, the cookie box must be taken away. But the slobbering part - only for deep processing, and then if the dog does not eat, but spits it out.
  32. GrandsonUncle Vasi
    GrandsonUncle Vasi 20 March 2015 23: 54
    +9
    There are many opinions, even more admonitions and attempts to change their minds in the judgment that dill is a "region" of Russia in analogy with Ryazan or Yekaterinburg. Conditionally allowed ... and tensed! stop
    Chechnya undoubtedly does not recognize that it is part of a separate Islamic state. I hope I will not cause a negative reaction from my respected fellow soldiers and comrades from Chechnya!
    Introduced the indignant Buryat, who believes that he is forcibly held and infringed on the rights of a representative of the Buddhist religion and he is not allowed in the desire to reunite with great Tibet!
    And now he introduced his "brother" from Ivano-Frankivsk, who, by the grace and nobility of the Federal Migration Service, was in Ryazan or Yekaterinburg with registration and a view of Russian citizenship! Tense up again !!!
    Now an example from real life. I have a married couple from Kharkov (just a minute!), In theory they should be loyal and kind of like our relatives or, more precisely, brothers and sisters! For half a year in our territory, they have submitted all the documents for citizenship, they are looking for a house to buy, they receive a stable salary. It seems that everything says what is correct and competent! The guys live in peace and good neighborliness! Alas!!! They began to gnaw at my "veterans", started to drown them in terms of work and responsibilities! Our people work for me, Muscovites, Kursk, Penzyaks. People, I was faced with the fact that I saw real intriguers and squabblers. There was never any national division and infringement at the enterprise. But with the arrival of these refugees, my people have changed!
    I have an equal attitude to stools! Let them jump on!
    What kind of brotherhood can there be if they even bite worse than the dogs between themselves.
    In short, this mantra about brotherhood and friendship no longer works.
    The prodigal woman will never be domestic. good And the fact that the coals are prodigal, probably there is no point in arguing!
    All peace and good! good
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    3. ksv1973
      ksv1973 21 March 2015 10: 55
      +2
      Quote: GrandsonUncle Vasi
      They started gnawing at my "veterans", they started to drown them in terms of work and responsibilities! Our people work for me, Muscovites, Kursk, Penzyaks. People, I was faced with the fact that I saw real intriguers and squabblers. There was never any national division and infringement at the enterprise. But with the arrival of these refugees, my people have changed!

      Dear Grandson of Uncle Vasya! Drive these shitty foods with a filthy broom !!! Otherwise, your business will be covered with a cap. An intriguer in a team - he is worse than a fascist.
    4. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 22 March 2015 20: 35
      +1
      Quote: GrandsonUncle Vasi
      People, I was faced with the fact that I saw real schemers and squabblers. The enterprise has never had national division and infringement. But with the advent of these refugees, my people have changed!

      Look, you seem to be a literate person. Invent and evict these "refugees" back to Dill. Suitcase - station - Dill ... True, the dill will not be allowed across the border, which is a pity. All rats must sit in the same rat trap!
  33. sanyavolhv
    sanyavolhv 20 March 2015 23: 55
    +1
    Ukraine is Ukraine huge point
  34. avia1991
    avia1991 20 March 2015 23: 57
    +3
    In general, the author reasoned sensibly. But with the question "what to do?" bust: what is suggested is called "swinging fists after a fight". Why?
    I remain in my opinion that last April (deadline) you had to use force to suppress the "legitimization" of the self-styled ukrovlast, and to prevent a military conflict in the Donbass.
    I completely agree that "Battles are not won while sitting in a fortress." And therefore, and also taking as truth the statement "Ukraine is Russia", it was impossible to allow this American operation to unfold in full force! This would be an adequate response to "an attempt to separate a part of Russia from Greater Russia." Moreover, legally, we were absolutely invulnerable: we had on hand a legally elected, and on any side, legitimate President Yanukovych, and he, in fact, turned to Putin with a request for military assistance - well, more precisely, peacekeeping - but this does not change the essence.
    And in this form, an analogy
    Imagine that a huge angry dog ​​grabbed your "cookie" in its teeth
    It would look different: the angry DOG wanted to grab a cookie - but got it on the nose, and didn’t even have time to touch the treat!
    Everything that is proposed now (by the author) is not viable, due to the underdevelopment of the network of our special services abroad, as well as the anti-Russian hysteria that engulfs the West, where a Russian with a Berdanka seems to be an inhabitant of every bush. And then - this, sorry, is not our method: we are used to fighting the enemy openly, and not stealthily, not from around the corner. Of course, the methods of warfare are different. But if we do not wish harm to other people, and at the same time are internally confident in our rightness, then why are we going to screw up and shoot in the back?
    You say: "Finding someone else's is easiest!" Yes, that's right. And I have no ready-made recipes either. But, since everything turned out the way it is today, a couple of steps from Russia, as I see it, could be as follows:
    - Given the behavior of Parashenka, agree with a gross violation of Ukraine's implementation of the provisions of Minsk-2, and in this regard, RECOGNIZE the DPR and LPR as independent states created on the basis of the people's opinion expressed at the referendum and the legitimate elections of the Heads of these republics.
    - To establish diplomatic relations with recognized republics, and conclude an Agreement similar to the Treaty "On a Common Defense Space" between Russia and South Ossetia.

    And when it will be officially issued - let dill stick wassat
    And besides, to start disseminating by all possible means information in other regions of Ukraine that the republics of the DPR and LPR will be glad to all regions that want to join them!
    The notorious "LIVER" has already been taken away from us, and return it in its entirety, in the way that the distinguished hi author, without global upheaval, it will not work. So, it is necessary to return in parts, unclenching the dog’s teeth, and taking out piece by piece. "A single neutral friendly Ukraine" is possible .. IN PRINCIPLE. But - not with this power, and not with such a .. "modestly expectant" position of our leadership.
    1. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 22 March 2015 20: 51
      -1
      You lose sight of the fact that the majority of Ukrainians, voluntarily or involuntarily, themselves wanted to become Nazis, consciously betrayed themselves to the sect. And they weren’t worth defending.
      But to kindle a fight in the camp of dill is very worth it, you just need to attract all available resources for this.
  35. alegon.shura
    alegon.shura 21 March 2015 00: 01
    +3
    In unprepared soil, the seed will not sprout.
  36. Starley from the south
    Starley from the south 21 March 2015 00: 14
    +2
    To send snipers to Ferguson is of course an interesting idea, but history teaches (only ... they can’t learn anything) that you cannot build happiness on the blood of innocent victims. On the other hand, if they are all white and fluffy there in Omerik, that is, innocent, then why admit that the Omerik army is pouring blood, alien blood, all over the world? If everyone shaves under one comb, which looks a lot like chauvinism, then snipers are justified. And not just snipers. Omerikans strongly believed that their continent is reliably protected by the ocean from any threat. Maybe they should bring down this confidence so that they, too, would tremble at night with fear, like the children of Donbass before shelling. Snipers are just one option. But on the whole, the idea is correct about a dog, you need to give it something heavier on the head to open your jaw.
  37. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov 21 March 2015 00: 17
    -1
    Now imagine that this angry dog ​​is the United States (or rather, Omerik is a country that is now very different in all respects, say from the classic US country 50-60x), a cookie is Ukraine (part of Russia, see p.1 above), and you (the one who is trying to pull a cookie from an angry dog) - and there is Russia.

    The correct strategy is not to pull the cookies at the risk of breaking them, but to hit the dog in the head. She opens the jaws of pain and thereby gives the cookie, it will not be up to her. This is the solution to the problem. She herself will release from the mouth of that in a fit of greed and captured that does not belong to her.

    Can it become cynical (to the extreme)? A couple of snipers in Ferguson, acting the same way as illegal and sneaky ACTED Americans in 1993 year at the Government House in Moscow or Kiev IN FEBRUARY 2014 years, are able to change the situation with the stability in the United States beyond recognition. Heavenly hundred Omariki.

    But Fergusons "there" can (or - should?) Be a lot. These elites of the Western world understand only power. This is commonplace. Well, it is necessary to implement it without any complexes. And we thereby preserve millions of lives, by the way, and on all continents.

    We will save billions and trillions of dollars, rubles and yuan that can be spent by mankind on research, medicine, the extension of people's lives, science, the development of civilization in general, and not on the arms race and on wars.

    Trite?

    Once again - yes.

    For a long time I said, you need to send Russian saboteurs there, but cut them all to hell! Or, make an accident.
    And the arms race, my friend will be there, It will always be. This genie, which you won’t push back into the bottle. Such is life, such is the nature of people ... It’s not sad. And if Russia will sleep again and look at everything through pink glasses, to think that the FSE is such-kind, peaceful, negligent-like Russia itself, it will repeat the same thing-that with the Russian Empire, the USSR, namely, another collapse of Russia, and possibly the disappearance itself. Yes, Russia is good, kind strong, smart. But this does not mean that Russia is not strong, not smart and not cunning. And strong, and smart, and cunning.
    The world is such that if you relax or believe in fairy tales — that someone wants to help you — they ate you right away ...
    And in the place of the President of Russia, I would have cut all the traitors of Russia for starters. That's how the chick would cut them. Putin needs to build his own squad, and all the traitors of Russia would be cut straight, just like that: chick chick ch no. the United States is a bit mean, but not without the help of our (Russian) traitors. Well, you must agree that there are no traitors or dumbheads who don’t think anything at all, so the United States wouldn’t do anything. It would only burst with anger, yes would have smelled.
  38. F.Vastag
    F.Vastag 21 March 2015 00: 26
    +1
    "Ukraine and Ukraine" is an incurable (Chronic) disease (like AIDS, Syphilis or Tripper) And who does it (Ukraine) look like ("Ukraine is the USA" or "Ukraine is Tse Europa" or "Ukraine is Canada" (where 3 mil. Khokhlov) or as in this article, where the author is trying to prove that this (Ukraine) is Russia) - let everyone decide for himself (for himself). (For me, the territory and the Zombie Sect (present-day Ukraine) Fiercely hating the Russians and Russia (according to Zveriny, at the level of instincts) - cannot be Russia (neither Spiritually nor Blood). For me (ethnic Russian): North Korea (and North- Koreans) - this is RUSSIA and the Russian-Soviet World, which they managed to Preserve (never betraying (Us) and those Ideals, Principles and Conquests of Socialism and Justice, which were "transferred" to them (at one time) by the USSR and Soviet power. Ukraine same - this is a WILD Field (Gulyai-Pole, Makhnovshchina, Bespredelshchina, Anarchy ("Mother of Order", etc., All That Is Pleasant (even the New Judeo-Khazar Kaganate) - but only Not Russia (for me, of course))
  39. COMRADE COBA
    COMRADE COBA 21 March 2015 00: 35
    +2
    No wonder Stalin resettled peoples, oh, no wonder!
  40. North
    North 21 March 2015 00: 37
    +2
    Orlov? weird. half a year ago, maybe a year, Zhirinovsky VV made this speech.
  41. mehmeh
    mehmeh 21 March 2015 00: 44
    +2
    Ukraine Tse Village
    Zhytomyr and Volyn in alliance with bandigi oligarchs captured Kiev, put the mayor of a nerd and attacked the Donbass
    And the goal of these Neanderthals who bomb their own cities is to join the European Union)))
    What we see. we see how barbarians take over cities destroying infrastructure. divide the country into destinies
    Directly the fall of the Roman Empire))
    There is also an army of provincials who, in Latin, didn’t know how to read the country.
  42. atamankko
    atamankko 21 March 2015 00: 44
    +1
    This illiterate disease is incurable.
  43. mehmeh
    mehmeh 21 March 2015 01: 05
    +1
    To strangle this bastard, this bastard Ukraine with allies (the same savages)
    Farmers) Balts Albanians Romanians should Europe (Germany France Benelux Italy)
    After all, the goal of these new barbarians is not to raise Nenko but to relocate to Europe))
    Donbass will beat off cretins))
    Miners and factory workers are not idiots there
    No safety precautions
    And all these slops rush into tolerant Europe
    Then it will come to Merkel that she did when the Romanians, Kurds, Galicians,
    They will populate Europe and spit on their temples on their history on themselves and on the laws
    They will understand where the Serbs disappeared
    How people are trafficked for organs and slaves
    But it will be too late
  44. Shaitan_by
    Shaitan_by 21 March 2015 01: 12
    +2
    The article is very correct. I have been waiting for her for a long time, and thought to write something similar myself.

    Separation happens when both sides want it.
    They bombed Ukraine, and many hate the Russians.
    Now they’re zombifying Russia.
    All the shouts "You are not our brothers, go to Europe and wash the toilets there" form in our minds the idea that we do not need Ukraine.
    Even the phrases "Donetsk is ours, and we will give Lviv to the Poles" are not true.
    There is a small, residual message "This is our land."
    This is the right message.
    The general idea should be this:
    Ukraine is our land, as I was born in the USSR, I say:
    15 republics, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and in general, all of eastern Europe, and much more - this is our zone of influence.

    I hope and wait.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 23 March 2015 10: 41
      0
      It's all about a moment in time. In the long term, yes, this is OUR land. And Poland, too, - not because the Governor of Moscow should own this land, but because "OUR" means "WITH NAMI". But in the current moment I do not agree: a land without a population is an empty phrase, non-existent. A person with leprosy is not treated with a hug; it is suicide. The predominant composition of the population of this or that region of the "former Ukraine" will change - OUR land will be. It will not change - it will not.
  45. mehmeh
    mehmeh 21 March 2015 01: 30
    +5
    Changing a person’s worldview is difficult
    How to make an Orthodox from Uniate
    Yes, almost nothing.
    Here it turns out that both the Russian land and the blood brothers
    And they are strangers to you and they despise you
    Finno called Ugrians)
    And peace will come only when
    Bandera drove into the woods and shoot
    And for the propaganda of the UPA, the terms will be given for life.
  46. sternman
    sternman 21 March 2015 01: 32
    -5
    the level of the author's argumentation for kindergarten, or just a get-together, where everything is forgivable. in these lines, you can safely change the variables for any of dozens or even hundreds of conflicts on the PCM. replace the image of the enemy with a suitable one for the region, a sect can with such success be called any nation and find "argumentation"
    (I’m not specifically doing this for Russia, I don’t like to escalate. If, as you describe yourself, smart and thinking - you will find slogans, chants and your creeds by the same tag #krymnash in social networks)
    and the argument with the dog and the cookie is, sorry, epicfail. there is such a principle in polemics - "a bullet will find a hole." as I want, and turn the logic of all the entities of the world, if only it was, sorry for the tautology, in my opinion.
    Guys, I understand that you don’t like America - to your health (I can’t imagine, though, and you probably too, if you are not cunning, how you would live without it and without all the benefits that it gave rise to - if you are willing to argue - let's really walk in bast shoes if you find one.), but if you use such comparisons in a situation with many players and variables, in which the Kremlin plays a significant role. and Ukrainian. oligarchs, it’s worth starting to become a good dog handler, otherwise you won’t understand who ate the cookie.
    yes, in order to avoid paranoia - I am from Belarus, although initially Russian - my father is all relatives in Rostov and the region, although now I consider myself a Belarusian, the image of a Russian person, as I knew him from Russian classics, by its heights, is completely discredited by modern realities and Russian trends. there was a substitution of concepts, which, IMHO, few people see, but this is a separate topic.
    Yes, obviously, the author of the article has the same attitude towards Belarus as Ukraine does - they say this is Russia. once, when I didn’t think, but looked stupidly, I grew up in the media and thought to live in Russia, I also had imperial ways. fortunately, he was cured of it - the Russians are no better than the Belarusians, Ukrainians, Poles, or Americans. everywhere there are both worthy people and der * mo. only the system in Russia is designed so that just the last pops up. in the west, no matter how rotten it seems, it is rather the other way around.
    good luck to all! success in studying history in isolation from ideologies. it is difficult, but possible.
    Pavel Zvezdin, Minsk.
    1. poquello
      poquello 21 March 2015 02: 03
      +2
      Quote: sternman
      ... success in studying history in isolation from ideologies. it is difficult, but possible.
      Pavel Zvezdin, Minsk.

      The words are not of a boy, but of a sectarian. Which actually confirms the opinion of the author of this article. I will not argue, you also did not bother with this, because "they called Gena, the mutator should be washed more often."
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 21 March 2015 02: 58
      +3
      Quote: sternman
      Yes, obviously, the author of the article has the same attitude towards Belarus as Ukraine does - they say this is Russia.

      What about the arguments in favor of your denial of this statement?
      Although in the article, I remember, Belarus was not clung to .. Or do you want to say that Belarus was not part of the Russian Empire, but was exclusively "Europe"?
      Quote: sternman
      you don’t love America - to your health (I can’t imagine, however, you probably too, if you didn’t dissemble how you would live without it and without all the blessings that it gave rise to
      Can you list which ones? What would we not have lived without ?! Let me think .. McDonald's? "Coca Cola"? Computers? (Created on the basis of a "fast transistor" stolen in the USSR) .. Maybe OSes for computers? Bill Gates himself admitted that what the hell he would have written without Russian programmers!
      What else is there .. Ah, Democracy! From happiness, damn it! We are fed up! And also the atomic bomb, the arms race with the Cold War, the cool concept of secondary education - to educate a "dumb" nation .. CONTINUE ?!
      By the way, transnational capital, which, in fact, threatens the security of the whole world, due to its inability to take into account anyone's interests, except for their own, is also a "brainchild" of the Americans! So you, with your contempt for
      Quote: sternman
      growing media
      , you can continue to love at least everything American - but do not forget that the only country FORCEDING AGGRESSORS TO CAPITULATE, and bringing peace to Earth, was Russia - whether with help or independently - but it was she. And the country unleashing the war is the United States. So - love them further, and the "mattress" flag is in your hands!
      And we will somehow get over it in "bad Russia" ..
  47. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov 21 March 2015 01: 43
    0
    Quote: COMRADE COBA
    No wonder Stalin resettled peoples, oh, no wonder!

    Stalin-LITTLE, LITTLE MOVED PEOPLES, IT WAS TO BE MIXED, SO GOOD, TO GET-ONE INDEPENDENT PEOPLE!
  48. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov 21 March 2015 01: 48
    0
    Quote: F. Vastag
    "Ukraine and Ukraine" is an incurable (Chronic) disease (like AIDS, Syphilis or Tripper) And who does it (Ukraine) look like ("Ukraine is the USA" or "Ukraine is Tse Europa" or "Ukraine is Canada" (where 3 mil. Khokhlov) or as in this article, where the author is trying to prove that this (Ukraine) is Russia) - let everyone decide for himself (for himself). (For me, the territory and the Zombie Sect (present-day Ukraine) Fiercely hating the Russians and Russia (according to Zveriny, at the level of instincts) - cannot be Russia (neither Spiritually nor Blood). For me (ethnic Russian): North Korea (and North- Koreans) - this is RUSSIA and the Russian-Soviet World, which they managed to Preserve (never betraying (Us) and those Ideals, Principles and Conquests of Socialism and Justice, which were "transferred" to them (at one time) by the USSR and Soviet power. Ukraine same - this is a WILD Field (Gulyai-Pole, Makhnovshchina, Bespredelshchina, Anarchy ("Mother of Order", etc., All That Is Pleasant (even the New Judeo-Khazar Kaganate) - but only Not Russia (for me, of course))

    Ukraine is Russia. And if you argue, because you are in the place of Ukraine, in one case, there will be training camps for mercenaries, of which, like cockroaches from all the cracks, they will be transported to Russia by well-trained and trained saboteurs-terrorists-mercenaries, in another case, there will be Ukraine-in NATO with NATO military bases near Russia and pruschih to Russia in ecstasy-ukrokhryakov.
    There is only one way out, quietly, firmly and quickly to squeeze out all the trash from Ukraine, and to take Ukraine into Russia forever and forever. Ukraine cannot be surrendered and lost-betrayed.
    And in general, Russia-to lose-just like you say-just give OUR-RUSSIAN Ukraine-so many years with us, is just some kind of shame.
    1. Alex Danilov
      Alex Danilov 21 March 2015 02: 06
      0
      This is comparable to how you lived with your brother. And then you have some kind of mu .... he says, let me go, you sell your brother, what for do you need him? And your younger brother is being taunted against you. And what’s the matter of handing over your brother? Yes, it’s full downism. And then there’s a fight for fun for all two brothers.
      And what is asked, did Russia — that in Ukraine — did so much horseradish. She slept and waited until the roasted cock in the ass bites?
  49. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov 21 March 2015 01: 55
    +1
    Quote: Shaitan_by
    The article is very correct. I have been waiting for her for a long time, and thought to write something similar myself.

    Separation happens when both sides want it.
    They bombed Ukraine, and many hate the Russians.
    Now they’re zombifying Russia.
    All the shouts "You are not our brothers, go to Europe and wash the toilets there" form in our minds the idea that we do not need Ukraine.
    Even the phrases "Donetsk is ours, and we will give Lviv to the Poles" are not true.
    There is a small, residual message "This is our land."
    This is the right message.
    The general idea should be this:
    Ukraine is our land, as I was born in the USSR, I say:
    15 republics, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and in general, all of eastern Europe, and much more - this is our zone of influence.

    I hope and wait.

    In! Aw, well done! I completely agree.
  50. Viktor V.
    Viktor V. 21 March 2015 02: 29
    +2
    Quote: Denis fj
    If "Ukraine is Russia", then it is just another Russia, Russia, oriented in the other direction and towards other values. And who decided that there can be only one Russia, and such as you, citizens of the Russian Federation, want to see it? Look, Korah two - and, nothing, live. True, also without love :)
    And Ukrainians in this logic are other Russians, such Russians who do not want to be Russians of your kind. And who will force? Does anyone know a way to make a person be what he does not want to be? For example, for example, I definitely do not want to be Russian, and I will certainly never be Russian. And my children will not be. So, what is next? Well, the maximum you can do is try to destroy us on this basis.
    Russian guys, we are not imposed on you as relatives. To become you is a disaster for us, it’s better to really die :) Well, that’s the way it’s better to die than to become Russian. Or Chinese :) (By the way, American, Australian, Pole and Jew - it’s quite possible, many of my friends have already become, nothing, perfectly alive, but it’s impossible for Russians, well, it’s just a complete mess).
    Do not be fooled by illusions - in the foreseeable future, you and Ukrainians will not be brothers or in any other way as one. So get used to living in the rays of our hatred and contempt for you.

    I will say this. You are just a sick stupid person. And we don’t need to get used to your hatred. Just like you, soon take a break. Yes, and all-out countries of your dill will soon be gone completely.
    1. mehmeh
      mehmeh 21 March 2015 02: 54
      0
      Let him write in Ukrainian then.
      Teaches ukrov history. Ukrainian mathematics)))
      So they themselves are eliminated))
      Which, incidentally, is happening.
      Sophistry is good at arguing. brainwashing
      But life is a real thing puts everything in its place

      And the right to stupidity is one of the guarantees of the free development of the individual. Mark Twain