Russia must understand V.Putin

Russia must understand V.PutinYesterday, two critical articles were posted on the site about the next nomination of V.V. Putin to the presidency of the Russian Federation. Since we are trying to highlight events from different points of view, today we present to your attention the opinion why Putin should again become the president of Russia.


Russia must understand V.Putin. Former President of the Russian Federation, today's head of government and the future President of the country.

Especially in America, they like to count how many percent of the country's inhabitants love the president, how many do not In the end, almost always half. Maybe for the president by a margin of 10-15 percent. It should be noted that America, a country that has taken on the role of the standard of genuine democracy, which develops precisely in the interval of these almost equal percentages, for and against the president. Today in Russia exactly. Who is for Putin, who is for Zyuganov. Speak out publicly on television, in the press, on the radio. Not to be afraid of. And this is good.

It is time for the Russian people to understand the essence of democracy. Its first stage is to enable a person to freely express his views in public, without fear of finding himself in Solovki for this. Tell me, was it possible, for example, in 1952, in the pages of the newspaper Pravda, to begin a poll who is for Stalin and who is against?

You say it was a long time ago. Now other times. Do not hurry. In the post-Soviet space, there are still countries where a priori such polls are stopped at the root by planting in places not so distant.

If we compare the Russian Presidents, then it is worth wondering who did what for the people. Boris Yeltsin made billionaires Gusinsky, BAB (Berezovsky), Abramovich, Chernoy, Lieberman and many others, leaving the Russian people a war against ... the Russians. Under Yeltsin, dollars were taken offshore by caravans of ships, and rampant embezzlement exceeded universal proportions. Under Yeltsin, nothing substantial happened in the country, so that it could be called a creative affair. Full stagnation, sucks. And only on the edge of the abyss, he called Putin to save Russia. The fact that Putin SPAS Russia, when everything was going to a big scuffle in the country, is not necessary to convince a sane person.

What did Putin do for the country, for the people? One could say in one word: normal human life. We do not speak in material terms. In this sector of social existence, never, under any Kings, under any Presidents, there will not be 100% justice.

Society is heterogeneous. There will always be thieves, parasites, drunkards, traitors, sycophants, grabbers, etc. But there are those who want fame for the Fatherland, who cares about the weak and sick, babies, children, defenders of the Motherland, teachers, doctors. And so on. These are concerned with state affairs, about augmenting the triumph of Russia as a great world power. And what has been achieved under Putin is fully consistent with this direction. He reconciled us in our stupid ambitions to grumble and turn everything on someone. He did this big deal. Because reconciliation is a normal life for a person.

Under Putin, the regions received the strongest development. Tatarstan, Bashkiria, the Far East. Siberia…. Personally visiting the outskirts of the center of Russia, he was always in the thick of the most urgent matters.

Under Putin, something is discovered in the country every day. Under Putin-President and under Putin-Prime Minister. Russia has grown to such a development that the world sports community has chosen it as the host country for the next Olympic Winter Games. Is there really no merit of this man? Of course, to the full.

In the last century, Russia went through a difficult, very dangerous path from a mess of power, its impulsive state, to the creation of normal government institutions. From elections to elections to higher authorities, the electoral system is being improved. By its characteristic features, it becomes the standard of honesty and objectivity. As the system readily accepts everything new in the technology of elections that humanity has gained. And Putin is invisibly on this path.

Under Vladimir Vladimirovich, enterprises, credit and financial institutions have earned, relations between the countries have improved. Authorities in all regions of the country actively undertook to upgrade infrastructure, railways and highways. The largest domestic auto manufacturers are deployed in the direction of an innovative approach to life. The Russian Kalina successfully traveled the other day from Vladivostok to Kaliningrad. So, there are roads in Russia. There will be more of them and soon the time will come when we will remember the old highways as some kind of distant past.

Russians need to remember that Russia is a huge state, which is closely between the poles. She barely tosses between them. And the population is two times incomplete than in Japan. Only a handful of people on such a large territory. Before Putin, the problem of childbirth in the country was recalled in part. When there was nothing to say or say, to do nothing in this direction. Putin was the first to take decisive steps on this important road for the country: he created a system of maternity capital. And it is already working, since the outflow of the population in Russia has stopped and the influx will begin.

Democracy, which is firmly established in Russian society, does not prohibit the expression of their thoughts in public. People are born with critical views on everything, even very good. Yes, he argues this, it is good, but it can be done better. Optimists are always good, even if it’s bad. And which of them should we love? That's right - and those, and those, because we are all Russian. We must be one in the beautiful gusts of the soul and heart to do something good for the Motherland. Because Russia is us.

Putin is an elegant intellectual, a refined European with subtle manners of communication with different social strata of society. This is a clever girl who acts only in the way that benefits the Motherland, its people. He does not give anything to anybody, but he can count a state-owned penny. He is the creator. With his direct participation, one of the grand projects in the world stories on laying a gas pipeline along the bottom of the Baltic Sea.

For ten years it is impossible to eliminate all the lack of need in the life of society, which have been accumulating for centuries. Too short for this time. But what has been achieved is already working for the country, for its prosperity. And Russia must understand that this is the merit of the Russian man Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
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  1. doctor3006
    doctor3006 27 September 2011 07: 41 New
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    Well, licking climbed, now at all angles they will praise the wisest of the wisest.
    1. Smirnov Vadim 27 September 2011 07: 45 New
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      Yesterday they scolded, today we are glorified :)
      1. Xmmmm
        Xmmmm 27 September 2011 07: 52 New
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        We are easy-going people. Believing in a bright future and sowing the rational, good, eternal =)
        1. Vadivak 27 September 2011 13: 24 New
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          We began to live better said the government
          We believe you people said, you began to live better
    2. user
      user 27 September 2011 10: 14 New
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      Do not treat the doctor (you are already the 3006th)!
    3. Uhalus 27 September 2011 20: 00 New
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      Shitty article. Juggling and witchcraft. And then I do not see how it is in life. Freedom of speech is even less than with the scoop, it can only be expressed on the Internet (I suspect that this laf will be hidden someday), ethnic strife with the suppression of the titular nation in our own country. He sees nothing and does not know, does not control anything, except gifts for children for the New Year. The collapse is the same as under Yeltsin, but not so obvious, well disguised. When P. was asked .. but all that remained of Yeltsin. We’ll elect them to finish off the current ruins of the country. I’ll vote at least for the devil with the horns, if only against this ... type.
      And who is in his place? I do not know. Certainly not M. - he is even worse. : (((((

      Sorry for being rude ... But I see what medicine has turned into. I know about the mess in the army. I know about the political position of Russia in the world. I know a lot of things. A couple of my friends are judging me because they gave the crowd black ... face (not blacks!) Jackals aged 14-17. And what about such articles?

      Someone will say: he does not know everything, what is he to blame? And I will answer: for each incident at the plant, who is the culprit-respondent? - Director. And only then a locksmith (or anyone else) who made a “puncture”. Who is responsible for any accident on the ship? Captain. And only then the sailor who made the "cant". And for the mess in the state who is the defendant number 1? Here it is.
  2. Lexx 27 September 2011 08: 32 New
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    Understand and forgive (s);)
    1. fantast 27 September 2011 16: 15 New
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      Alexander Rodionovich Bearded smile
      1. runway 27 September 2011 18: 39 New
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        Misha does not offend! It can be understood and forgiven, but not by OBESHCHALKIN Putin and not by the complacent smug Medvedev!
  3. Matroskin 27 September 2011 08: 41 New
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    "Not afraid to find himself on Solovki" - they spat on my opinion, p ... di whatever you want.
    Under Yeltsin, dollars were taken offshore by caravans of ships, and the rampant embezzlement exceeded universal proportions. "- But now it’s different!
    Corruption has exceeded all conceivable limits, bureaucrats are more than in the USSR, industry has been destroyed, Europe and America have been caught up with prices, unlike their salaries, not one "reform" has been brought to mind, bandits rule in all guises. In the ministerial chairs sit a match, the brothers are generally far from the topic, but with crazy ideas! And do not tell me here that the king is good, bad slaves !!! Licking nasty !!
    1. user
      user 27 September 2011 09: 57 New
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      and you then lived in the USSR son?
      1. hellbringer
        hellbringer 27 September 2011 10: 54 New
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        He lived, and you?
        1. user
          user 27 September 2011 11: 21 New
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          Yes I happened to catch!
          Then life was! ...YES? :)
        2. user
          user 27 September 2011 11: 24 New
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          Yes I happened to catch!
          Then life was! ...YES?
      2. svadon
        svadon 27 September 2011 13: 48 New
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        We lived, we lived, and we do not regret it much.
      3. svadon
        svadon 27 September 2011 13: 52 New
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        We lived, we lived, and we do not regret it much.
      4. svadon
        svadon 27 September 2011 13: 52 New
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        We lived, we lived, and we do not regret it much.
      5. Matroskin 27 September 2011 19: 58 New
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        user I am already 46 years old, do you think I lived in the USSR? And this is precisely what LIVES and did not survive.
      6. Matroskin 27 September 2011 20: 16 New
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        user I am already 46 years old, do you think I lived in the USSR?
    2. user
      user 27 September 2011 09: 59 New
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      and you then lived in the USSR son?
    3. user
      user 27 September 2011 10: 00 New
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      and you then lived in the USSR son?
    4. user
      user 27 September 2011 10: 01 New
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      and you then lived in the USSR son?
    5. dimitriy 27 September 2011 12: 46 New
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      Matroskin
      sorry brother! I clicked on the arrow without looking - and minusanul! A definite plus to you!
      And the author somehow forgot to write that for every open school we have 1000 closing! The same situation with enterprises ....
      1. user
        user 27 September 2011 14: 06 New
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        But this is tochnik!
        Schools and hospitals are closing and enlarging!
        And for the place of schools yellowing buses are bought that transport children! The witness himself! And what's the catch, the village of 40 souls (Penza region), began to pave the road and make the bridge, it is IMHO understandable to wash money! one fork even before the cemetery will be paved!

        That is the paradox! Schools, hospitals close - money laundered!
        Buses are bought - money laundered!
        Roads, bridges are made - laundered, VARYUGI, they know how!
        1. user
          user 27 September 2011 14: 09 New
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          In fact, it's time to get used to the fact that we do not live in the Soviets, we will not have hospitals and schools in every small village!
    6. Tyumen
      Tyumen 27 September 2011 18: 26 New
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      Matrosrkin, did you read the article? She is for people like you! After all, everything has been chewed up, and again you have corruption - a bureaucracy and industry - reform of bandits and siblings to pick up an American salary. For centuries, life has not been possible for us, and give you your dreams in ten years. Are we here almost every day discussing what we developed and built, but what flew? Or do you know someone who could? Remember the Yeltsin years, and although I am not a fan of Putin, but I think he, having received power, has done a lot for the country. You probably also do not write from the heating main, but have a job, a family, a house, and do not starve.
      1. SLAVA 27 September 2011 19: 42 New
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        Dear "what centuries?" What are you about! Shit just the last 20 years flooded! I suppose we should clean it soon !!!
        1. Tyumen
          Tyumen 27 September 2011 19: 51 New
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          Maybe remember when in Russia ordinary people were completely happy? And where did anyone get stuck there, aren't we living here?
          1. SLAVA 27 September 2011 20: 08 New
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            Previously, although relative, there was a certain concept of happiness, but now everyone is well aware that we are in the position of a deceived prostitute who has passed through a company of soldiers and with it a foreign Army!
            1. Tyumen
              Tyumen 27 September 2011 20: 16 New
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              I think that our country is too huge to apply the usual standards for the timing of building * happiness *. So the last time we didn’t - we destroyed the country, and now we are in a hurry.
          2. zczczc
            zczczc 27 September 2011 20: 15 New
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            Tyumen35, it is the desire to live better and motivates us to choose the best leader.
            1. Tyumen
              Tyumen 27 September 2011 20: 40 New
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              So we kind of choose, choose, and everything is amiss. Maybe this is utopia? Everyone is happy only in the cemetery, and this is life.
              1. zczczc
                zczczc 27 September 2011 23: 57 New
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                Tyumen35, well, so we must strive. Or what :)
      2. Matroskin 27 September 2011 20: 46 New
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        Tyumen35
        Here’s the article that got me crazy. I don’t need to remember the Yeltsin years, I remember the Brezhnevskys and they were quite fine with me, unlike Putin’s. Yes, I have an apartment that I got under Brezhnev and it’s completely free, I have a job with a salary until the next I do not starve but I do not choke on sausage. So what did Putin give me? I’m not sure about tomorrow, which was not under Brezhnev, I felt pride in the country, which now is not in sight,The one that Putin gave the country?
        1. Tyumen
          Tyumen 27 September 2011 21: 21 New
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          Yes, stop clinging to the past, this is the road to nowhere. You evade the answer, we must remember just the Yeltsin time, this bog today is not there. I do not want to repeat what I already wrote. Something people began to think globally, little stability was already not enough for them, take it out and put it down * to catch up and overtake * and further down the list.
          1. Konstantm 27 September 2011 22: 18 New
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            Yes, stop clinging to the past, this is the road to nowhere

            Without a past, no future
            1. Tyumen
              Tyumen 27 September 2011 22: 27 New
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              Let's no platitudes. I respect the past and miss the USSR, but what's the point of dreaming about Brezhnev? Didn't they shout about stagnation at one time?
        2. andr4ew
          andr4ew 29 September 2011 17: 13 New
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          transparent housing and communal services, and a lot of the same
        3. 416494 1 October 2011 19: 31 New
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          Why should Putin give you something? Take it yourself man or not?
          We know how to whine and cry, condemn and discuss and to cry for the one who works
          we can, and then it will be good for your family to work and not look for the guilty one. And it’s time to understand that it’s time to change the government in Russia
          STEERING this means getting a new ruin. Through this camp passed in 1917,
          in 1993 and now you need to remember about this rake. Well, and who needs devastation
          can vote for anyone at least.
  4. AKM1917
    AKM1917 27 September 2011 08: 41 New
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    During this time (from the beginning of the 2000s) and with such revenues from oil and gas, much more could have been done for the people to strengthen the state - and I just heard - the money allocated for that was stolen - the state defense order was foiled, corruption grew, kickbacks in all structures etc. and after the election, plans are even tougher - raising the retirement age, paid education, housing and communal services reform not in favor of the people, etc. where is the improvement ????
    1. PSih2097 27 September 2011 11: 15 New
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      During this time (from the beginning of the 2000s) and with such revenues from oil and gas, much more could have been done for the people to strengthen the state - and I just heard - the money allocated for that was stolen - the state defense order was foiled, corruption grew, kickbacks in all structures etc. and after the election, plans are even tougher - raising the retirement age, paid education, housing and communal services reform not in favor of the people, etc. where is the improvement ????

      Kudrin somehow betrayed that the money supply (the notorious stab. fund) that accumulated from the sale of oil and gas, it is necessary to support the dollar, and if the dollar falls, it will be worse for everyone ...
    2. zczczc
      zczczc 27 September 2011 20: 16 New
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      AKM1917, you didn’t change your avatar?
    3. 416494 1 October 2011 19: 43 New
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      I agree. But we are stealing, we are giving bribes, these are our cops, our
      judges, our officials, and why should someone clean up our
      country. If we have chosen a person for some position, we owe him
      help, and not go aside and wait when everything is fine.
  5. Isk1984 27 September 2011 08: 44 New
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    After that, I don’t know what to say and can immediately canonize him, which is too embarrassing ...
    1. alnikar
      alnikar 27 September 2011 09: 20 New
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      Isk1984,
      Quote: Isk1984
      canonize

      Likely for this purpose it is necessary to shoot together with a family
      1. user
        user 27 September 2011 10: 04 New
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        correctly! and restore the gulags! ALL thief to the wall!
        1. alnikar
          alnikar 27 September 2011 10: 05 New
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          Quote: user
          ALL thief to the wall!

          It’s not better to work hard and you need to restore to hell without a break
          1. user
            user 27 September 2011 10: 06 New
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            that is, we will not arrange a smoke break :)
            1. alnikar
              alnikar 27 September 2011 10: 33 New
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              I’m not talking about the punishment instead of working against the wall to poison.
              Yes, and we are not going to smoke breaks
      2. user
        user 27 September 2011 10: 04 New
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        correctly! and restore the gulags! ALL thief to the wall!
      3. solodova 28 September 2011 14: 38 New
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        Offset !! ))))) I think they’ll be after canonization wink
        1. oper66
          oper66 28 September 2011 14: 59 New
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          Of course they will be against GDP and DAM - for this they need to be killed, but they probably do not want to. winked
  6. Banshee 27 September 2011 08: 49 New
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    It raced ... Thunder of victory, resound ... Vote, or lose ... One and the same.
    Interestingly, they will say after two terms about who will change him?

    In fact, unfortunately, there is no alternative to the "return of the resident".

    But there is some aspect that can be copied from Europe and other Democrats. If a representative of one party wins an election and becomes president, then the opposition must form a government. Well, or get the majority in the Duma.
    If Zyuganov does not pull on the president (and he really does not pull), then he would sit in the Duma and work on the laws. The Communists had a lot of smart proposals that it would be nice to implement. I do not mean the requirements of the dissolution of NATO, this is PR.
    But such a vision.
    Medvedev in the premiere of IMHO stupidity.
    1. AKM1917
      AKM1917 27 September 2011 08: 55 New
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      Yes, another question, I often hear that oil and gas production has increased! increased deliveries abroad! (everyone is happy with the applause) and who is better off living from this? who received what from the sale of gas and oil or from an increase in their sales? well, yes, pensioners received an additive 200r)))
      1. Matroskin 27 September 2011 08: 58 New
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        And then the housing and communal services took 500)))
        1. 416494 1 October 2011 19: 52 New
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          And it would be possible for these 500 for a beer with vodka without a snack.
      2. user
        user 27 September 2011 10: 05 New
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        But what about those who were born in 1917, the increase was only 200 r!
      3. 416494 1 October 2011 19: 50 New
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        And here we have a country of pensioners and invalids and even armless ones. Do not work
        We want, but we are waiting for someone to give us something.
    2. svadon
      svadon 27 September 2011 13: 54 New
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      How will we change this for anyone, to Medvedev. lol
    3. svadon
      svadon 27 September 2011 14: 00 New
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      How will we change this for anyone, to Medvedev. lol
    4. svadon
      svadon 27 September 2011 14: 00 New
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      How will we change this for anyone, to Medvedev. lol
    5. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 30 September 2011 15: 22 New
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      The proposal is sensible, and if it’s true to try Zyuganov with the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in the Duma, it would be realistic to put forward a test, so to speak, in fact, it would be good, the truth is there is a possibility that conflicts will not happen!
  7. alnikar
    alnikar 27 September 2011 09: 15 New
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    I didn’t understand whether it was a joke that “Putin is an elegant intellectual, a refined European,” and we don’t have a European ruler, we need a Russian ruler at heart.

    "who cares for the weak and sick, infants, children, defenders of the motherland, teachers, doctors" - God forbid from such care.

    "normal state management institutes" - these are normal here, you want to open your own business and try to collect papers, but I’m ready to pay taxes, save the main thing from this stupid
    run around.

    "the outflow of population in Russia has stopped and an influx will begin" - an influx of Russians from the CIS or who have left permanently to the West, they will return. The country needs professionals, but they need to create very good conditions.

    "does not prohibit expressing his thoughts in public" - yeah and then 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, well

    “It’s impossible in ten years to eliminate all the obscenities in the life of society that have been accumulating for centuries,” it’s quite controversial, in my opinion, Stalin did the impossible for 15 years, you can shout of course that under him there were difficult living conditions, only how hard the conditions should be, if in the Second World War they died with a cry "For Stalin!".

    Yes, I read it, it was amusing, although this coincides with the mood in society, "Putin seems to be not very good, and better yet no one is there," although no one has tried it yet. Most of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation communicated with acquaintances in the Duma, while many in the presidential unambiguously over the GDP.
    1. Superduck
      Superduck 27 September 2011 09: 38 New
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      Most of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation communicated with acquaintances in the Duma, while many in the presidential unambiguously over the GDP.

      Well, as Mironov said in the last election.
      "We are categorically against the government, but categorically for Putin!" This is all the stupidity of the Russian political system. When someone is found who loves to lick the anus, they lick him to an empty place.
    2. zczczc
      zczczc 27 September 2011 20: 19 New
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      alnikar, namely, we do not need a European, but a Russian.
    3. 416494 1 October 2011 19: 56 New
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      The people had a HOMELAND. No one was dying for Stalin.
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        I don’t understand what kind of aplomb style to speak for others, especially those who died, especially since almost seventy years ago?
  8. hellbringer
    hellbringer 27 September 2011 09: 34 New
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    I am from the people of Russia, why should I understand Putin if he carries out the genocide of the people.
    1) Pensioners now receive less than German prisoners of war in 1941.
    2) All freedom of speech is directed, even the call of cardiologist Khrenov was prepared in advance.
    3) Industry is diligently destroyed and brought to a state where it is sold for a penny. A stereotype is carefully imposed on people that the management of enterprises by the state is evil. In fact, enterprises are deliberately brought to such a state, and then split up, sold out.
    4) All reforms are carried out in the interests of the Oligarchy and according to the Bnay Brit scenario, Alfa Bank carefully headed by the gray cardinal - personnel officer Bnay Brit in the Russian Federation - Mr. Aven.
    5) People are carefully instilled that being Russian is a shame, that the Russians are to blame for everything (for example, the shooting of the Poles, for some reason no one remembers how the Poles shot our people, remember the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and forget the British agreement with the Germans. Forget US supplies to Hitler in 1941 .)
    The only thing that worked under him was financial institutions that do not produce anything in essence and are necessary for laundering and fraud.

    And looking at all this I want to say - ENOUGH !!!

    Absolutely empty article, water and slogans about democracy. People picks? Author deserved minus.
    1. Asmoday 27 September 2011 10: 33 New
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      Quite rightly said! especially in the article "killed" the fact that our "great and mighty GDP" began to pay attention to childbearing .... tell me when it appeared the Institute of Family and Marriage ??? who has been involved in child molestation from an early age! who is behind the forced sterilization of our girls at the age of 14-16 !!!!
      is it when Putin began to introduce juvenile justice ??? when I take my children from wealthy families! when children are taught to inform parents, teachers, etc.
      ON THE NUMBER OF SUCH "DEFENDERS" !!!!
    2. 416494 1 October 2011 20: 23 New
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      1) There were no German prisoners of war in 1941, they appeared after the battle
      near Moscow, or maybe you yourself are from these Germans?
      2) We have directors without Putin to the waist.
      3) Industry destroyed and sold out under Yeltsin, remember the voucher
      privatization, or were you not in the country at that time?
      4) I do not comment on stupidity.
      5) If you yourself think that this is so, then no one is to blame except yourself. And financial institutions work in all countries where there are
      money, it’s a pity that you did not know this. The author is a big plus.
      Sorry that you are not in Russia so accepted.
  9. user
    user 27 September 2011 09: 55 New
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    Two of these dibloids (that the male and the female) are already taken out!
    Thanks really are not counted (especially male)!
    Of course, it’s high time to choose the brow of a good and loving baby brow for presidency (the bear, unfortunately, doesn’t reach this point (like this IMHO)
    I demand that you review the results of privatization, take everything away (let the oligarchs cry, and we laugh :) finally), announce international auctions. We will finally sell this fucking GAAZprom (vaaaryugi) to Europe, and everything else to Pindos and Chinas (let them choke, animals) according to the normal the price!
    Leave only the state (postmen), well, so that they carry the money from privatization to ordinary citizens of the great RUSSIA!
    Finally, we will see oil dollars with our own eyes!
    1. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 27 September 2011 10: 59 New
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      YOU are serious user ??? If so, I feel sorry for you !!!
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        user 27 September 2011 11: 18 New
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        of course seriously! nevertheless, everything is so darn around, just everything!
        people are not la, reforms are not la, corruption is everywhere la!
        white lumen is not visible!
        and most importantly, you can’t see the positive!
        well, why mother ... you can’t say yes there are mistakes, there are big mistakes (in reforms, in politics ... etc) but only those who do not make mistakes!
        you need to believe in a better, brighter future and just work ... and not complain!
        more positive! guys!
        Well, someone stole it, well, and -removed- with it! I forgive, because I am a Russian guy with a wide, forgiving soul and a shirt for me to swing ....
        1. ytqnhfk
          ytqnhfk 30 September 2011 15: 29 New
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          user the fact is that only the top steals, moreover, it steals powerfully and the people from it are satanic because it sees everything and can not do anything! It is necessary to punish and they will stroke the head with a finger, threaten and transfer everything to another chair !!! And if we cut off the article immediately and on the stage. I think that everyone is equal before the law and not everyone remembers this!
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          Well done! Well said, only the shirt smells, and then the navel will be untied by the wind.
    2. oper66
      oper66 27 September 2011 13: 31 New
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      Yes, we see a donut hole and not oil-dollars-Putin’s Medvedev and other supporters of the world behind the scenes whose task is to nominally maintain the standard of living and development of the country to ensure a quiet pumping of resources so that people live in an economy mode and take care of the essential and do not think about eternal. neither the United States nor the West in nature our lands need to live here they are not going to, and when they capture us they need to solve the problem of the acquired population (destroy or give the rights of citizens) the first method when capturing implemented Hitler did not work, I didn’t like it conquered) but it they don’t need it, therefore we are quietly neo-colonized, the world backstage controls both finances and resources making a profit, and the ebnshnki and Putin regime is their tool for servicing the pumping of funds from Russia and preventing riots in the territory entrusted to them,
    3. zczczc
      zczczc 27 September 2011 20: 22 New
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      user, I mistakenly plus you, sorry not to fix it.
      You didn’t make money Sterligov? So he has Christianity of the brain. It can be read very selectively - for example, he soberly discusses the fight against alcoholism.
    4. 416494 1 October 2011 20: 25 New
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      I do not believe that you are from the great RUSSIA.
  10. user
    user 27 September 2011 10: 10 New
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    they do, they make reforms, they want the best, but it turns out as always!
    and all the stakes are more stolen (VARUGI), then their eyes run around, what do they think there? If we look at them in the box we don’t notice anything!
  11. user
    user 27 September 2011 10: 13 New
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    you (SMART and REFINED) cannot be fooled, you don’t have the same oil! our good VARYAG does not surrender to the enemy!
    FOR VICTORY!
    FOR RUSSIA MOTHER!
    ALL to the nail (embezzlers, thieves, bribe takers, and just do the infanticide) here!
    1. hellbringer
      hellbringer 27 September 2011 10: 53 New
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      Are you fooling around? Nude nude.
    2. Uhalus 27 September 2011 20: 23 New
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      Enough is enough, huh?
  12. runway 27 September 2011 10: 22 New
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    A lot of promises for our country were voiced by Putin over the years of his "reign". But they judge - by deeds! Just look around in the compartments. In foreign policy, we were left alone. And we are tolerated as long as we regularly supply our minerals and forests “for the cordon”. Quite a lot has already been said about the country's food security - it is not there. Our economy is completely dependent on imports. And the money of the state (government officials!) Is in American banks.
    Putin’s domestic policy is aimed at tightening tax collections on the bulk of the country's population, but not on oligarchs fed by him!
    What else did he not ruin in our country? Maybe an education system? Or strengthened the country's defenses? Only for one of the above should he answer before the court as a state criminal.
    The longer this OBESHALKIN will be in power, the more severe and dire consequences our country will come out of the swamp into which he dragged it there.
    And he will finish his business badly. And don’t go to the grandmother ....
    1. user
      user 27 September 2011 10: 31 New
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      what did you want!
      what a trough went after being marked on that one and flying!
      if you want to go to zhoporozhets and chocheni choby would be such as a gelding?
      we have gentlemen and ladies not a formula-1 quick pit stop does not work!
      although I also want everything at once :)

      like that, piston! :)
      1. hellbringer
        hellbringer 27 September 2011 10: 52 New
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        No, there is still a defense industry, for now. The trough broke under Putin, he diligently further destroys everything.

        hide user-nickname - as I understand the troll.
        1. user
          user 27 September 2011 10: 56 New
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          who is troll?
          troll-lala?
        2. user
          user 27 September 2011 11: 01 New
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          who is troll?
          troll-lala?
        3. user
          user 27 September 2011 11: 08 New
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          but seriously, is it really so bad that we are homeless at the station, who offended!
          or already twenty years unemployed and get a living wage!
          Ali, we just don’t like any power!
          although this is in Russian!
          when did we have good rulers?
          WHO? Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Stalin, Brezhnev, maybe the tsar! When did you live well?
          Can't answer this question?
          Well then, with whom will it be good?
          WHO? Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky, Yavlinsky, Nemtsov maybe Hakomada there?

          Although the guys for Okhlobystin, I might have voted!
          Maybe I just thought now, I'm the Troll of Okhlobystin :)
          1. user
            user 27 September 2011 11: 32 New
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            What’s not nice, I’m in the censer.
  13. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 27 September 2011 10: 28 New
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    She's like ... It turns out Russia MUST understand Putin ....
    Mr. Yunchits, Russia owes nothing to Putin. And here is Putin — yes, he did, pretty much owed Russia.
    1. user
      user 27 September 2011 10: 36 New
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      correctly! debtors must pay debts!
      otherwise he doesn’t seem to go to the toilet, choli :)

      :) I went for my passbook so that I could translate debts there!
  14. Ion coaelung
    Ion coaelung 27 September 2011 10: 32 New
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    Give Zhirik the presidency: he will impose the death penalty, he will shoot the bandits, he will close the oligarchs, he will send the British elite to the new elite, and there will also be an oar if they show him daily :) Zhirik is the best!
  15. Motherland
    Motherland 27 September 2011 10: 35 New
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    Well, I present a congratulation for the new year. Zhirik sends a cameraman with a bottle of champagne, breaks the scenery and writes to the USA where the ICBMs are sent Happy New Year!
    1. stas 27 September 2011 12: 49 New
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      As soon as the personal and family party of the son of a lawyer buried in Israel, Zhirinovsky ceases to pull protest votes from the Communist Party, he will be trampled from the State Duma by a filthy broom, worse than Prokhorov.
  16. Stephen
    Stephen 27 September 2011 10: 44 New
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    Friends, and if it’s true to figure out who the real applicant is. Write for whom would you vote?
    1. andr4ew
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      for Prokhorov with Roizman, they are at least normal men
  17. lokdok
    lokdok 27 September 2011 10: 50 New
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    Kasparov trolls have read and varied. Especially Muscovites are furious, what else do you need - you won’t get crowded with chic foreign cars in the yards. Now, for Petersburgers, having a summer cottage at 500 km is normal, but there are no roads ...
    A normal pensioner receives a pension of about $ 300, parasites of course less, although I don’t understand what to pay grandma if she has not worked all her life ??? But everything is bad, we dream about a roar. the situation so that the Russians become so bad that they take on AKM from hunger. Figs to you, you are at war in the UWB, Europe and Ukraine ...
  18. Banshee 27 September 2011 10: 52 New
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    Yesterday kicked out Kudrin.

    Beg repost from "Vedomosti".

    It was hardly possible to find the worst moment for the resignation of Alexei Kudrin from the post of Minister of Finance, which he occupied 11 for years, says Reuters observer Douglas Basvayn. He notes that Russia is now dealing with such unpleasant phenomena as capital flight, the risky situation with oil prices and the general instability of the financial sector. According to the observer, Kudrin helped Russia recover after 1998 defaulted, and then created the conditions under which the country experienced the 2008 crisis. He also writes that he had a special relationship with Vladimir Putin, whom he helped to go to the Kremlin and with discernment for whom he served as minister. "Now this special relationship has fallen victim to the redistribution of power within the ruling tandem," argues Basvine. Reviewer Daria Korsunskaya calls Kudrin "a symbol of Russia's macroeconomic stability over the past decade."

    Tim Ash, an economist at The Royal Bank of Scotland, told the agency: "It seems as though Putin has decided that Kudrin’s head is the price worth paying for a calm return to the presidency." According to Ash, “Medvedev’s political capital was so hard to melt over the weekend, and then Kudrin, with his comments, caused damage to the authority of the current president - this could not be left unanswered.”

    All analysts polled by Reuters expect a negative market reaction to Medvedev’s decision and note the suddenness of this resignation before submitting a draft budget to the State Duma, “which will be balanced only if oil prices rise to $ 116 per barrel”. In the eyes of investors, Kudrin was the last frontier on the path of other politicians who sought to pull apart the state of the country, acquired on oil, into prestigious projects, the usefulness of which I would like to doubt. “Kudrin’s resignation will moderate cautious optimism about the economic consequences of Putin’s return to the Kremlin,” said Eurasia Group director Clif Kupchan. - Investors consider Kudrin a conductor of responsible budgetary policy and a key supporter of reforms. Finding a replacement will not be easy ... His departure will at least temporarily damage the country's reputation in the eyes of business and markets. ”
    1. user
      user 27 September 2011 11: 02 New
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      Yes, the campaign does not need Medved is not specialists, not professionals!
      he needs YOUR people!
    2. Tyumen
      Tyumen 27 September 2011 19: 30 New
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      It seems to be logical, but we are already afraid of those Russians whom the West praises, and especially England.
    3. Tyumen
      Tyumen 27 September 2011 19: 35 New
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      It seems to be logical, but we are already afraid of those Russians whom the West praises, and especially England.
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        Tyumen 28 September 2011 19: 07 New
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        Who frolic here? This is about Kudrin, accidentally got here.
  19. Varnaga 27 September 2011 11: 02 New
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    I would like more dry numbers and intelligible analytics, but I already subscribe to every word of the author.
  20. lokdok
    lokdok 27 September 2011 11: 14 New
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    Yeah, Kudrin - a specialist and a professional ....-))))
    This is the last representative of the State Department in the government, now Russia is becoming truly economically independent.
    1. user
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      # In 2004, A. Kudrin was named by the British magazine “The Banker” Minister of Finance of the Year, becoming the winner in two categories: “World Minister of Finance of the Year” and “Minister of Finance of the Year in Europe.” [45]
      # In 2006, the British newspaper Emerging markets named Alexei Kudrin the best finance minister among European countries with an emerging market.
      # In 2010, Euromoney magazine named Alexei Kudrin the best finance minister of the year.

      And in my opinion an adequate man!
      or do you need a proven TTToVVarishch? :) which is not allowed into the States!
      how then will he go to international economic forums? Well, I beg you!
      1. Banshee 27 September 2011 11: 33 New
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        user, you get the gist!

        Who howled from his resignation? Who awarded him?

        Fucking ...

        It turns out that if he is a friend of our enemies, then there is nothing wrong with that. And England is our enemy historically. And if they praise him so much ... hell, maybe it's for the best?

        Actually, Kudrin was not a man of Medvedev, he is Putin. So all is natural. I think so, many Putin’s proteges will not want to work with Medvedev. So he will have to move.

        Quote: Banshee
        He notes that Russia is now dealing with such unpleasant phenomena as capital flight, the risky situation with oil prices and the general instability of the financial sector.


        And before all the capital was lying around, you might think. And the price of oil was like ... a soldier. And the financial sector was not just stable, but similar to the Egyptian pyramid.

        Makes you wonder why all of our people are silent for now, while foreigners are screaming ...
        Who benefits?
        1. user
          user 27 September 2011 13: 17 New
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          Well, I beg you!
          No need to interfere with economics and politics, or rather geopolitics!
          Kudrin is an economist, let him be engaged in economics! And budgeting and increasing defense spending is a must! And this is not his business!
          He just argues as an economist, I am far from the idea that he wants to undermine the restoration of the country's defenses!
          Do you really think that he is a zealot or works there for someone or pays him there the US State Department, it's just br_D!
          1. prunx
            prunx 28 September 2011 09: 37 New
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            “It’s not necessary to mix politics with economics.” Only a dim-witted person could say such a thing. Lenin also said: "politics is a concentrated expression of the economy," believe me, he knew a lot about this.
            1. dimon
              dimon 29 September 2011 17: 03 New
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              Well, yes, for 70 years we have been living mixing politics, ideology and economics according to Lenin's testament!
              And where are we now?
              So here you can still argue who is actually not far off!
  21. Volkhov
    Volkhov 27 September 2011 11: 43 New
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    Raising discipline to an unquestioning one before the global crisis removes everyone who has a brain, opinion, connections — Kudrin, Luzhkov, Rakhimov, Mubarak, Buteflik, Gaddafi — they need robots.
  22. Professor 27 September 2011 11: 58 New
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    The Russian Kalina successfully drove the other day from Vladivostok to Kaliningrad. So, there are roads in Russia

    Afftar lights up. wink There are wheels and steering wheels ...

    In general, why all these praises. Anyway, there is only one voter in Russia - GDPutin. So he himself chose 50-60 for years. As the Anglo-Saxons say: Take it or leave it.
  23. Bogatir
    Bogatir 27 September 2011 12: 01 New
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    "Russia must understand Vladimir Putin. Former President of the Russian Federation, today's head of government and future president of the country. "
    - Have the elections already passed?
  24. Bogatir
    Bogatir 27 September 2011 12: 04 New
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    Mind does not understand Russia,
    No yardstick to measure:
    She has a special feature -
    You can only believe in Russia.
    - And understand ...
  25. stas 27 September 2011 12: 16 New
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    I would like to believe Putin, and many at the beginning of his first presidential term believed in him, especially in comparison with the EBN.

    Russia is the richest state in terms of natural resources, but for some reason, in terms of living standards of the main part of the country's population, we can only compare with the poor states of Europe.

    His crafty assessment of the standard of living of Russians by the average income indicator does not inspire confidence in GDP.

    It turns out really; one eats only bread, the other a little richer allows himself bread with cabbage, the third eats meat, and according to Putin’s assessment it turns out that all Russians eat stuffed cabbage. But this is not so, 60% of the population of Russia barely make ends meet.

    The personnel policy of GDP does not inspire confidence, the ministers of defense, education, the interim president of DAM and many more such appointments.

    And what kind of situation has the GDP created with democracy, in fact, no one in Russia believes in fair and legitimate elections. The irremovability of power and the monopoly of one party will not bring anything good to Russia, they have already passed. The result is known.

    Putin, a man without obvious ideological convictions, or he hides them so well that most Russians do not know them.

    What does Putin want to build in Russia? According to the constitution, a democratic state - providing a decent life and free development of an individual or a capitalist paradise for the Rich. This is unknown to the people!
    Putin’s policy does not pull on constitutional norms, and, moreover, contradicts it. While the rich are fattening, due to the impoverishment of the rest, existing prices are limited only by the conscience of the oligarch. But they have long forgotten what it is!
    So trust Putin after that.
  26. Motherland
    Motherland 27 September 2011 12: 33 New
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    Quote: Stefano
    Friends, and if it’s true to figure out who the real applicant is. Write for whom would you vote?

    Himself))
    Well, so inclined to the Communist Party
  27. fantast 27 September 2011 12: 37 New
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    Presidential candidate Vladimir Putin promises to correct the mistakes of the government that Prime Minister Vladimir Putin did not correct, who inherited all the troubles from ex-President Vladimir Putin.
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      And precisely in this, the whole essence of the policy of the trainer of Uncle Vova, our Russian Japanese mother Khakamada called GDP the most greedy ruler of Russia for all the time of its existence, comparing it with Plyushkin.
      1. user
        user 27 September 2011 14: 13 New
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        And for me Putin is a good president! Patriot - like an UAZ!
    2. Bogatir
      Bogatir 27 September 2011 13: 59 New
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      Announcement:
      - Today, the club will show fools.
      Everyone gathered, the lights went out in the hall. Turned on - 15 minutes nothing happens ...
      “But everyone is standing and cannot understand - where are the fools?”
  28. Aleksys2 27 September 2011 12: 46 New
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    Russian GDP since 1991


    The dynamics of the number of births (without stillbirths) and deaths in Russia in 1990-2009, in million people









    And now the data for the USSR





    This is the price we pay for "so that a person could freely publicly express his views, without fear of finding himself on Solovki for this." Tryndet not tossing bags.
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      I do not recommend particularly trusting the official statistics of the Soviet period! I still remember those times, and how these statistics were made!
      1. Aleksys2 27 September 2011 14: 53 New
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        Western media about the first five-year plan:
        Financial Times newspaper (England), 1932
        “The successes achieved in the engineering industry are not subject to any doubt. Praising these successes in the press and in speeches is by no means unfounded. Do not forget that before Russia produced only the simplest machines and tools. True, even now the absolute figures for the import of machinery and tools are increasing; but the proportion of imported cars compared to those produced in the Soviet Union is steadily decreasing. The USSR currently produces all the equipment necessary for its metallurgical and electrical industries. He managed to create his own automobile industry. He created the production of tools and tools that span the entire gamut from the smallest tools of great accuracy to the heaviest presses. As for agricultural machinery, the USSR is no longer dependent on imports from abroad. At the same time, the Soviet government is taking measures to ensure that delays in the production of coal and iron do not impede the implementation of the five-year plan in four years. There is no doubt that the newly built huge factories guarantee a significant increase in the output of heavy industry. ”

        Forward Magazine (England), 1932
        “The huge work that is happening in the USSR is striking. New factories, new schools, new cinema, new clubs, new huge houses - everywhere new buildings. Many of them are already finished, others are still surrounded by forests. It is difficult to tell the English reader what has been done over the past two years and what is being done next. You have to see it all in order to believe it. Our own achievements, which we made during the war, are nothing compared to what is being done in the USSR. The Americans admit that even during the most rapid creative fever in the western states there was nothing like the current feverish creative activity in the USSR. So many changes have taken place in the USSR over the past two years that you refuse to even imagine what will happen in this country in another 10 years ... Get rid of the fantastic scary stories told by English newspapers that lie so stubbornly and ridiculously about the USSR. Also throw out of your head all that half truth and impressions based on misunderstanding, which were launched by ambitious intellectuals who patronizingly look at the USSR through middle-class glasses, but who have no idea what is happening there ... The USSR is building a new society on healthy the basics. To achieve this goal, one must be at risk, one must work with enthusiasm, with such energy that the world has not yet known, one must struggle with the enormous difficulties that are inevitable in the desire to build socialism in a vast country isolated from the rest of the world. Having visited this country for the second time in two years, I got the impression that it is on the path of lasting progress, plans and builds, and all this on a scale that is a vivid challenge to the hostile capitalist world. ”

        Gibbson Jarvey, Chairman, United Dominion Bank (England), 1932
        “I want to clarify that I am not a communist and not a Bolshevik, I am a capitalist and an individualist ... Russia is moving forward, while many of our factories are inactive and about 3 million of our people are desperate for work. The five-year-old was ridiculed and predicted its failure ... But you can undoubtedly consider that more has been done than was planned in the conditions of the five-year plan ... In all the industrial cities that I visited, new areas appear that were built according to a specific plan, with wide streets decorated with trees and squares , with modern-type homes, schools, hospitals, work clubs, and inevitable nurseries and orphanages where they care for the children of working mothers ... Do not try to underestimate the Russian plans and do not make mistakes, hoping that the Soviet government could fail ... Today's Russia is a country with soul and ideals. Russia is a country of amazing activity. I believe that Russia's aspirations are healthy ... Perhaps the most important thing is that young people and workers in Russia have one thing that, unfortunately, is lacking in capitalist countries today, namely, hope. ”

        Nation Magazine (USA), 1932

        “The four years of the five-year plan brought with them truly remarkable achievements. The Soviet Union worked with the intensity of wartime on the creative task of building a basic life. The face of the country is changing literally beyond recognition ... This is true of Moscow with its hundreds of newly paved streets and squares, new buildings, with new suburbs and a cordon of new factories on its outskirts. This is true of relatively less significant cities. New cities arose in the steppes and deserts of at least 50 cities with a population of 50 to 250 thousand people. All of them have arisen in the past four years, each of them is the center of a new enterprise or a number of enterprises built to develop domestic resources. Hundreds of new district power plants and a number of giants, like Dneprostroy, constantly implement Lenin’s formula: “Socialism is Soviet power plus electrification” ... The Soviet Union organized the mass production of an infinite number of objects that Russia had never produced before: tractors, combines, high-quality steels, synthetic rubber, ball bearings, powerful diesels, turbines of 50 thousand kilowatts, telephone equipment, electric machines for the mining industry, airplanes, cars, bicycles and several hundred types of new machines ... For the first time in history, Russia produces aluminum, magnesite, apatite, iodine, potash and many other valuable products. The guiding points of the Soviet plains are now not crosses and domes of churches, but grain elevators and silos. Collective farms build houses, cows, pigsties. Electricity penetrates the village, radio and newspapers conquered it. Workers learn to work on the latest machines. Peasant boys produce and service agricultural machines, which are bigger and more complex than what America has ever seen. Russia begins to “think with machines”. Russia is rapidly moving from a century of wood to a century of iron, steel, concrete and motors. ”


        What are they writing about us now?
      2. zczczc
        zczczc 27 September 2011 20: 26 New
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        rafAnd how elections are being made now! So even Beria did not dream, probably ...
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 27 September 2011 13: 33 New
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      And what is the merit of Putin?
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    He cried in emotion ...
  30. Max
    Max 27 September 2011 13: 14 New
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    Statistics - a stubborn thing, the numbers clearly show everything. But you need to criticize, only strong criticism will keep the leaders in good shape, and will not let you relax for a minute. Well, now a couple of facts, like garlic for anti-Putin vampires:
    1) Summing up the economic results of Putin’s rule, The Wall Street Journal wrote: “The economy not only regained all the positions lost in the 1990s, but also created a viable services sector that practically did not exist in the Soviet period. Russia has accumulated the third largest gold and foreign exchange reserves after China and Japan ”
    2) The human development index in Russia increased from 0,782 (2000) to 0,802 (2005) [114], thus Russia was included in the list of countries with a high level of human development by this indicator
    3) There was a significant increase in foreign investment in Russia: from $ 11 billion in 2000 to $ 120 billion in 2007. [134] The outflow of capital from Russia, which averaged $ 1990-10 billion in the 20s, was replaced by its inflow and amounted to a record $ 2007 billion in 81. [135]
    4) According to the US Department of State, the Russian economy grew in 1999-2008 due to the devaluation of the ruble, the implementation of key economic reforms (tax, banking, labor and land), a tough fiscal policy, and a favorable commodity price environment. [130 ]

    You can continue in the same spirit endlessly - everywhere growth. And I'm shocked by some idiots who do not see this point blank. Most likely they just did not live in the 90s, although they may simply have forgotten. After Putin some second Yeltsin or reformer Gorbachev will come, then you will conquer the wolf.
    1. hellbringer
      hellbringer 27 September 2011 13: 59 New
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      I am also shocked by some idiots with brainwashed from the Western media, you forgive me, but I am a little versed in economics by virtue of a profession, so point by point.

      1) What positions has the economy regained? All we export is oil and gas, what goods do we sell for export?
      Viable Service Sector
      - Excuse me if the service sector is real production or is it causing an inflow of capital into the country and increasing GDP, is our tourism business developed? For some reason, almost the whole country has a rest in Turkey, Egypt, etc., etc.
      2) Human Development Index go to Wikipedia.
      The integrated indicator, calculated annually for cross-country comparison and measurement of living standards, literacy, education and longevity as the main characteristics of the human potential of the study area.
      Does the word integral say anything to you? No? This means generalizing, so what does he generalize, again we climb into Wikipedia.
      When calculating the HDI, 3 types of indicators are taken into account:
      * Life Expectancy - measures longevity.
      * Literacy rate of the country's population (average number of years spent on education) and expected duration of education.
      * The standard of living, estimated through GNI per capita at purchasing power parity (PPP) in US dollars.

      Life expectancy - the word EXPECTED is the key here when calculating, I can expect 100 years for each and this will be correct, because will depend on the base that I take and the calculation methodology. The fact that Alexander Zhukov trumpets the successful completion of nat. projects. Maternity hospitals eradicate existence or even close, det. the garden - hmm, we are next in line for 6 thousand. We’ll get into the garden by the 1st grade, then.
      The level of literacy of the population of the country — well, it’s not Putin’s merit, the system was under the USSR, it’s just gradually being killed, soon everything will be paid, don’t be afraid.
      The standard of living estimated through GNI per capita at purchasing power parity (PPP) in US dollars. - this is generally -
      A popular example of the use of purchasing power parity is the Big Mac Index, which is regularly compiled and published by The Economist English weekly. The index is calculated based on Big Mac prices at McDonalds restaurants in various countries and represents an alternative exchange rate.
      Another lesser-known index, the iPod index, is calculated by Commonwealth Securities, an Australian investment bank, based on the prices of Apple’s popular MP3 player in different countries.

      Well, since we will measure in cheeseburgers or in iPods ???
      3) There was a significant increase in foreign investment in Russia
      Why do you think that foreign investment is good? They invest in our country in order to deflate more. For reference, the Japanese sent the United States with their investments during the recovery of their economy ...
      You are a max typical example of brainwashed zombies, such as you and allowed restructuring and BNE. God forbid that there were fewer in the country.
      1. user
        user 27 September 2011 14: 20 New
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        Voooot! so!
        Turn to a specialist!
        If you are such a specialist, can you tell us what real steps you need to take in the economy to make everyone live well (who lives in Russia well :)), but only real economic levers and not excuses like "... you need to steal less ... "
        1. hellbringer
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          1) For starters, let's stop investing in the Western financial system, banks, etc. And does anyone know why Vekselberg is building abroad as part of innovation ???

          2) Next, another stage of the final privatization of enterprises for oligarchs is planned, these enterprises are now starting to go bankrupt ... it needs to be canceled, the management of these enterprises must be reviewed. Why is a 15% margin set for defense enterprises, who decided it ???? This is one of the levers for bankruptcy of enterprises in fact.

          3) A really working farm loan program is needed, i.e. at least, I emphasize at least, subsidize interest-free loans. Farmers say get a loan. subsidized unrealistic now.

          There are many more offers. The development of a detailed program will require the participation of an entire team. And you thought, Gaidar, Chubais felled the economy of the USSR as a team, do you want me to write a recipe for a cure alone? It will take a lot of calculations and calculations and scenarios.
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            user 27 September 2011 14: 47 New
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            Although I actually think that investing in the Western economy is also necessary!
            But only of course not in US Treasury bonds and in no other! But industrial and financial institutions abroad is another matter!
            In terms of farmers, it is high time to create associations (state) that will deal with lending, leasing, free consultations of specialists in various areas of animal husbandry and plant growing!
      2. user
        user 27 September 2011 14: 28 New
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        + for the answer, thanks!
        Well, that is, you agree that it is not so simple!
      3. prunx
        prunx 28 September 2011 13: 35 New
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        Stir everything tastes warm to soft.
        1 your thesis.
        Tell me, do we need money now? Really needed! This money pays pensions, salaries to state employees, etc. Or it will be a little better whose ebony. What can we objectively earn now? On what is - hydrocarbons. Our choice is not big, either we sell or we don’t sell. If we look at the share of GDP from hydrocarbons, it is about 60 percent of GDP. An ugly figure, it seems. But if you look, approximately 20% of this figure can be safely taken away. although it refers to the profit figures from hydrocarbons, it actually has a different nature, namely, it has passed through refineries, and this is no longer pure oil - these are fuels and lubricants and related products. Ie pure additive product. Raw materials are sold, including the domestic market, about 40% of GDP. But GDP and budget are two different things. The budget receives only half of the oil and gas money. In fact, all financial flows pass through the Central Bank. Total: the percentage of sales of raw hydrocarbons in the budget on average does not exceed 30%, together with processing 40%, and this is a completely different picture, right? Of course, this is a very simplified example, in which many factors are not taken into account (one price for oil is worth it), cannot be described in detail in the commentary. By the way, the service sector in GDP is not taken into account, unlike the United States, but it is not so small. In the states, if we remove the service sector from GDP, then little remains of it. I’ll answer the rest of your theses tomorrow, if interested. It’s possible to work more accurately with numbers, it’s just that it’s not handy with a mobile phone.
      4. prunx
        prunx 28 September 2011 13: 45 New
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        Stir everything tastes warm to soft.
        1 your thesis.
        Tell me, do we need money now? Really needed! This money pays pensions, salaries to state employees, etc. Or it will be a little better whose ebony. What can we objectively earn now? On what is - hydrocarbons. Our choice is not big, either we sell or we don’t sell. If we look at the share of GDP from hydrocarbons, it is about 60 percent of GDP. An ugly figure, it seems. But if you look, approximately 20% of this figure can be safely taken away. although it refers to the profit figures from hydrocarbons, it actually has a different nature, namely, it has passed through refineries, and this is no longer pure oil - these are fuels and lubricants and related products. Ie pure additive product. Raw materials are sold, including the domestic market, about 40% of GDP. But GDP and budget are two different things. The budget receives only half of the oil and gas money. In fact, all financial flows pass through the Central Bank. Total: the percentage of sales of raw hydrocarbons in the budget on average does not exceed 30%, together with processing 40%, and this is a completely different picture, right? Of course, this is a very simplified example, in which many factors are not taken into account (one price for oil is worth it), cannot be described in detail in the commentary. By the way, the service sector in GDP is not taken into account, unlike the United States, but it is not so small. In the states, if we remove the service sector from GDP, then little remains of it. I’ll answer the rest of your theses tomorrow, if interested. It’s possible to work more accurately with numbers, it’s just that it’s not handy with a mobile phone.
  31. Bogatir
    Bogatir 27 September 2011 14: 07 New
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    This cadence of Putin will be much more fun - decommissioning of the fleet, aircraft, closure of factories, lack of production, crisis, diversification of the energy market in the world, social tension, falling oil prices, well-worn Soviet legacy ... - Wow
  32. spirit 27 September 2011 14: 16 New
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    VIVAT EMPEROR! IWAT THE EMPEROR! It is time to rename the presidential regiment to the regiment of His Majesty the All-Russian Emperor Vladimir the Long-Liver. down with double standards.
  33. Max
    Max 27 September 2011 14: 23 New
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    hellbringer,
    Why did the glass break? .. It is possible to compose a fairy tale that the glass was broken into fragments because the neighbor sorcerer, using a system of Kabbalistic spells, put black negative energy taken from the harmful witch Brungilda into our glass, as a result of which the glass’s karma changed and he prematurely died ... Or you can answer simply: the glass broke because it fell from the table. The law of gravity worked as always clearly.

    DO NOT compose fairy tales either, there are dry facts, the fact that you are trying to distort and philosophize them, they will not change from this :)
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      hellbringer 27 September 2011 15: 25 New
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      There are facts, but there are integral indicators, these are different things ...
      1. hellbringer
        hellbringer 27 September 2011 16: 39 New
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        I’ll add, the glasses themselves do not break, even despite the law of gravity. Disbelieve? Open the sideboard, do glasses stand intact? Even despite the law of gravity? What do you think, how many years should pass before they break under the influence of the universal law of gravity, or someone should help them break, for example, you do it yourself ...
  34. Bogatir
    Bogatir 27 September 2011 14: 40 New
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    How you will not start to believe in it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJnViTTCNnE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list
    =PL86B04CD622D07A4C
  35. Bogatir
    Bogatir 27 September 2011 14: 40 New
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    How you will not start to believe in it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJnViTTCNnE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list

    =PL86B04CD622D07A4C
  36. S_Boron_nik_of
    S_Boron_nik_of 27 September 2011 14: 44 New
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    "Russia must understand VV Putin."
    Who exactly is Russia?
    If you mean ordinary people (not the oligarchs, not thieving officials, etc. their .... och),
    then I, as one of the representatives of this nation, "OH HOW I UNDERSTAND IT!".
    Of course - so many "big things" have not yet been done.
    Not all cash flows are flowing back on track;
    Not all large state-owned companies have yet been privatized (by persons close to the emperor’s),
    By the way, after the lapse of the Nth number of years, they can be nationalized again, but already every few
    paying more expensively from the state budget to privatizers, who will be sent there to the West.
    Not all "young" pensioners have earned money yet, but the "old" have given their soul to God.
    There are still "few" in Russia "labor migrants" from the "near abroad" (they need to be invited more, otherwise the Russians have something
    so far in Russia).
    Even the Russian army has not been completely reorganized into LLC Defense.
    The Soviet past has not yet been completely trampled into the mud.
    Yes, much more has not been done.
    How can we not understand our future “popularly elected” GDP, but only this understanding is far removed.
  37. Uwerazz
    Uwerazz 27 September 2011 14: 50 New
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    Another of the great achievements of GDP is the streamlining of financial flows during the plundering of the country after Yeltsin left. Under Yeltsin, in this area everything went somehow randomly ...
  38. svvaulsh
    svvaulsh 27 September 2011 16: 22 New
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    Moor has done his job! The moor must go!
  39. prunx
    prunx 27 September 2011 20: 00 New
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    "Yesterday, two critical articles were posted on the site regarding the next nomination of V.V. Putin for the presidency of the Russian Federation. Since we are trying to cover events from different points of view, today we bring to your attention the opinion why Putin should become president of Russia again."
    I must say that the article, dear contentmasters, was far from the best, to say the least.
    "And only on the edge of the abyss did he (Yelkin) call for Putin to save Russia."
    Bugaga, Yelkin called Putin, the author is burning. Mr Primakov, Putin’s former head of state security and opposition prime minister in 1998-1999, representing the security forces, brought Putin to the presidency. Yelkin was threatened with a court, just not many people remember this, and Primakov agreed with Yelkin that he would leave his post in a good way in exchange for immunity. Thanks to Yelkin for the only wise decision, although he had no other options. He managed to avoid a lot of blood in fact. I will not comment on the achievements that are described in the article, because it is not told about the main achievement of Putin as president, due to which any movement forward was possible at all. It is about the abolition of the "law on distribution of products (PSA)" in 2004. What kind of law is this? Oh, this is a very interesting law, thanks to which the Russian Federation was a colony. This law meant that all the natural resources of the Russian Federation were actually outside its (RF) jurisdiction, that is, from the moment of extraction from our bowels, minerals automatically ceased to be our property. Due to this, Russia received less than 2/3 of its budget in the budget, if transferred to money, then from one dollar Russia received 20 cents. In 2000, Putin began the struggle to abolish the PSA and finally achieved this only in 2004. Usually, the question "where did these hundreds of billions of dollars come from under Putin" is usually answered: yes, they say, oil prices have gone up and money has appeared. But even if the cancellation of the PSA is not taken into account, the purchasing power of the dollar in the 90s was much higher than the current one, and this ability drops very much every year. In other words, for one dollar in 1990, you could buy a lot more than now. This is the first. Secondly, oil prices began to rise largely due to the abolition of the PSA - it became clear that there would be no more free oil from Russia, and prices jumped up! So there was no "luck", This is an objective consequence of Putin's work. I hope you understand what Putin risked?
    I want to report to you that all the legislation of the Russian Federation was written on foreign grants. Therefore, our state does not have the right to dispose of foreign exchange reserves, as The Central Bank of Russia is a completely private organization. The role of the state is to propose (rather than appoint) a candidate for the post of head of the Central Bank by the president. The final decision is made by the shareholders. Is it great? Do not believe? Look at any ruble note or coin of any denomination, and notice that they do not have a single state insignia, be it a state flag or coat of arms. There is a double-headed eagle, but it is quite different from the Russian coat of arms - a double-headed eagle. There is a good article about the Central Bank on this resource: http://topwar.ru/6294-kto-rukovodit-rossiey.html. And here is an excerpt from the charter of the CBRF: “The Bank of Russia is a legal entity. The authorized capital and other property of the Bank of Russia are federal property, and the Bank of Russia is endowed with property and financial independence. Powers to own, use and dispose of Bank of Russia property, including the Bank’s gold and currency reserves Of Russia are carried out by the Bank of Russia itself in accordance with the objectives and in the manner established by the Federal Law “On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia).” Withdrawal and encumbrance of obligations of the property of the Bank of Russia without its consent are not allowed, unless otherwise provided by federal law. The financial independence of the Bank of Russia is expressed in the fact that it carries out its expenses from its own revenues.The Bank of Russia has the right to defend its interests in court, including in international courts, courts of foreign states and arbitration courts.
    The state is not liable for the obligations of the Bank of Russia, as well as the Bank of Russia for the obligations of the state, unless they have assumed such obligations or unless otherwise provided by federal laws. The Bank of Russia is not liable for the obligations of credit organizations, and credit organizations are not liable for the obligations of the Bank of Russia, unless the Bank of Russia or credit organizations assume such obligations. "Why am I? And to the fact that dear V.V. Putin made two attempts to nationalize the CBR in 2000 and 2003. In 2000, the law was not adopted - everyone voted against, including EdRo and the Communist Party, which makes us think about the viability and political nature of the Duma parties in general. Well, does someone still think that EdRo is Putin’s tame party? All parties, including the Communist Party only signs - the voting mechanism. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation - a comedy in general - in 1996, Uncle Zyu tried so hard that he overdid it, had to openly drain the voters and drink with a valokordin. And even in the next election, ZYu did not stand as a candidate. ))) Remember how the Communist Party appeared? Yelkin canceled any KP in Russia, but they whispered in his ear: Borya, do not rush, a shepherd is needed for the communist electorate, and Yelkin allowed the creation of the Communist Party. And all Zyuga’s shouts about returning money from foreign banks are simply farce and clowning, because the law doesn’t order, and they won’t vote for the nationalization of the Communist Party !! But back to the Central Bank. Putin, after an unsuccessful attempt to nationalize the Central Bank in 2000, ran into the problem: how now to use the funds taken from transnational corporations (headed by the self-aware)? First and foremost, through cunning manipulations, the then head of the CBR Gerashchenko was removed - a direct emissary of financial backstage, after which he managed to literally “push through” the amendment to the law on the Central Bank one of the points of which was: “The Central Bank will transfer 50% of the actually received profit based on the results the year remaining after tax and the approval of the annual financial statements. (entered into force in 2003) "Yes, now 50% go to Vnesheconombank's accounts, from where national projects are financed, etc. The second half, as stated in the law by the efforts of Kudrin (an ardent opponent of the nationalization of the Central Bank) and the Central Bank’s board, lies on accounts abroad. Now remember those times: Berezovsky, Gusinsky, the attacks, "the FSB is blowing up Russia (information sabotage against the security forces)", the Kursk submarine (Putin personally drowned) and much more, against whom is it all directed, and for what purpose? My comment runs the risk of becoming an article, although I spoke only on two episodes of V.V. Putin, therefore, round off. In the end, I’ll say that when evaluating Putin’s actions, use factology, factology, and again factology, and brains. From the foregoing, that V.V. Putin is the only known Russian politician capable of implementing global politics, and I know who to cast his vote for in the 2012 presidential election. Thank you.
    1. mitrich
      mitrich 27 September 2011 20: 26 New
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      prunx,
      It’s really interesting to read you. A lot of new things that I did not even know about. If you try to write about how the GDP began to squeeze the tails of independent neighbors, accustomed to living in the Russian gambling industry since the days of the USSR, I will be grateful.
      There are frankly few people like you on the site, mainly two camps of critics - pro-communist and ultra-liberal, but your comments are more interesting to read than theirs.
      My respect and plus to you.
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      fully support! (damn it, just clicked on the wrong button, put the minus sign instead of +. sorry you can’t fix it)

      Now a wave of shit will rise in the internet: "Putin - deleted, everything is bad ..." Of course, everything is not as beautiful as we would like (but we would like a lot! And all at once !!!), but is it really terrible ?
      For example with gasoline. Of course, I myself believe that fuel prices are unacceptably high, especially despite the fact that we are one of the largest suppliers of oil, but look at the number of cars on the road! Indeed, it is from horrible life that traffic jams arise on the city streets (in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Samara, Ufa, etc. generally you’ll get rid of horseradish normally), these are all “Fords”, Nissan, Hyundai, Peugeot cars from low income levels (I’m not talking about a large number of expensive cars), not six or nine. They will tell me: they took on credit! Yes, they did, but it means there is an opportunity to take a car for half a lemon, buy expensive gasoline, that is, pay for a communal apartment (also expensive !!!!) Ah, yes, I forgot to add about the rest! Despite all these colossal expenses, people still find somewhere else money to go to Turkey (where we are fucked), Egypt (too many), Spain, Thailand, Greece, etc. (And in the 90s, 80s, many of you went to rest abroad?)

      I wrote it, re-read it myself, and it’s true that it’s just unbearably awful standard of living angry

      I’m 28 years old, I’m not a major, I work as an engineer at a factory, I get about 30000, my wife sits at home with her children (two sons 10 months and 4,5 years), gets a “baby” 5000. They took an apartment in a mortgage. Yes, it's hard, for example, I can’t afford a car yet, but I won’t shout either, spraying nozzles in different directions. In general, it’s kind of dumb to hear such nagging from men: “all kapets! Everything is bad! Nothing can be done” (I generally am silent about the calls for revolution, I must be an idiot to suggest this) This is like grumbling grumpy wife: “But Zinka has a businessman’s husband! But Tanya’s three-room apartment. But Ninka’s obedient children "There is one very good saying:" Each hut has its own toys ", it’s just silly to think that it’s always good where we are not.

      PS about retirees. My grandmother, a war veteran (96 years old) receives a pension of more than 20 rubles! (I don’t remember the exact number, but I can find out who is interested)

      And all these conversations, "thieves, embezzlers", all this struggle "for social justice" in most cases are simply banal envy: "they plunder Russia! ... but why not me!" How many of you, screaming like this, can claim that if you were in the place of any general, minister, or president, you would not have taken a dime, would never have used your official position? Each of us always / sometimes uses his official position, even the same locksmith at the factory. Of course, I am against theft, but I am also for the fact that a person has no moral right to judge another, if he were in his place, I would not do the same. And any of us would become (no need to cheat), only here the positions are different and the possibilities are different. So shouting "thief", look at the beginning at yourself: "who are you?"

      So I'm for Putin.

      Here is another interesting link: http://mila-pavlova.livejournal.com/995517.html
      1. Varnaga 28 September 2011 06: 48 New
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        prunx, I join, a very interesting comment on the background of snotty tantrums arranged by the post-threots.
        You can write a lot and a lot about this, but my personal opinion is just a clinical case that can not be treated, even the respected Kashchenko would be powerless here.
      2. AlexeyUmbrella
        AlexeyUmbrella 28 September 2011 20: 07 New
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        "plunder Russia! ... but why not me!" How many of you, screaming like this, can claim that if you were in the place of any general, minister, or president, you would not have taken a dime, would never have used your official position?

        That's the trouble of PUTIBLYADIN that we have everything and everyone like you, ready to live on 35 thousand rubles a month and be FOR!
        1. dimon
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          too many losers!
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          Well, of course, it’s better to splatter snot and hysteria like a little child in a store because they didn’t buy a toy that was so good and beautiful. You can earn! Just do not whine, be a man.

          And about the "PUTIBLYADIN". Is it you who addressed me like that?
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        Positive, fair, the voice of a real MAN. RESPECT!
        Snot wind up is a kiss. You need to build your life yourself.
        I am also for Putin.
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      I completely agree with you, while in Russia there is no worthier person.
      But so far this is only a candidacy from the EP party.
  40. Bogatir
    Bogatir 27 September 2011 20: 04 New
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    Something interesting will sometimes be written ...
  41. stas 27 September 2011 20: 05 New
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    Gentlemen Putin, as well as trolls who have joined them, read at least the information on the website http://top.rbc.ru/economics/26/09/2011/617309.shtml, and you will understand that immediately after the election of Putin as president unpopular liberal reforms were carried out, unpopular from a social point of view, which would lead to a significant deterioration in the well-being of the Russian people.
    In carrying out these reforms, Putin assigned Medvedev the role of Gaidar No. 2, and then he will probably sacrifice it as the EBN at one time sacrificed Gaidar.
    And again, the GDP wants to stay clean, white and fluffy. It seems that Putin is constantly playing multi-pass kgbesh operational events with his people, and he is fooling the people, without naming his ultimate goal.
    I would call it, maybe we understood him. But for now, silence. There is something to hide.

    All this reminds me of an episode of their movie Pinocchio, when a fox shared gold coins with a cat 5.
    The fox gives the cat one coin and says, “Five is not divisible by two, so you need one, but I have the rest.” And so does the GDP.
    1. dimon
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      Do you want all reforms to be popular?
      Unfortunately, leveling and bringing the country's budget to a non-deficit state a priori leads to the adoption of unpopular measures, that is, reforms!
      There is no getting around this!
      What do you suggest?
      One here suggested, in the comments, to sell everything for expensive to foreigners and give out money!
      1. stas 27 September 2011 20: 58 New
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        dimon We have already lowered the GDP below the baseboard, nowhere else.
        And why all the reforms under the Putin plan are carried out at the expense of impoverishment of the people, we have Russians that it is written in kind. Or he tests us for strength, as long as we can withstand.
        Reforms are carried out in order to improve something, and not just to increase (as is done under Putin) prices that, according to Putin's plan, are limited only by the conscience of the oligarchs, the existence of which they had long forgotten.
        Do you think that sharing equally is worse than stealing in one pocket, and leaving the rest so that they would not die of hunger?
        Do not anger God and the Russian people.
        1. dimon
          dimon 27 September 2011 21: 44 New
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          Unfortunately, I don’t see any specifics!
          You just say that everything is bad and that's it!
          I can also scream that EVERYTHING is good!
          My level of well-being has risen in recent years, I work, I do not steal money, of course I would like better and more, because there is always little money!
          Question? Either I need a little or you have too big requests!
          Or am I alone here so lucky and everyone else is unemployed or low-income!
        2. dimon
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          I also remember, for example, that time when our pensioners received a pension with a delay of six months, and then spent it for several days, because the pension was very small and inflation was very large (more than now)!
          I do not want to say that now the pension is large or sufficient, but that it is more and that it is paid without arduousness it is absolutely certain!
          And I can give hundreds of such examples (not only on the example of pensions)!
          Could be better and more, maybe I do not argue! With the same probability it could be worse and less!
          Well, as for Putin’s presidency, it’s better to have a nightingale in your hand ...
          Perhaps this is what our country needs (.... it has become special ...)!
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        Here is another unpopular reform, which they say cannot be carried out after the 2012 election. This is an increase in the retirement age. We pay contributions to the pension system based on the calculation of the life expectancy of 19 years. The average life expectancy in Russia is 58,7 years for men and 71,8 for women. Retirement age - 55 and 60. T.O. the average man no longer lives up to retirement, and a woman who is only 12 of 19 years old uses a pension.

        Deputy Minister of Finance of Russia Sergey Shatalov called on Russian residents to "get used to the idea" of raising their retirement age. Decisive steps in this direction will be taken by the president elected in the 2012 year. Vladimir Putin announced the revision of the retirement age through 5 years in the 2010 year.

        Arkady Dvorkovich, Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation - “the time has come, and do not deceive ourselves that people are not ready to raise the retirement age in Russia. They are ready". How do you like?
        Here I liked the comment http://www.rg.ru/2011/09/25/pens-anons.html

        So, besides not everyone survives to retirement, is it also planned to raise the retirement age, what if it is not a theft on a gigantic scale?
        Has anyone noticed the “modesty and invisibility” of the PFR buildings?
        And do you still believe that they work for people?
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          They want to increase pensions not because life expectancy is high, but because of the relatively high percentage of pensioners working. Go the easy way. I am sure that they will nod to Europe, they say look, they are even worse.
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            But in Europe, life expectancy is much higher than ours, what is it to equal? Moreover, the money that we receive is incomparably less, that sn, that pension. So it’s not Europe that doesn’t get much fun, for that matter, they have just a few rallies. It is clear, of course, that now there are much fewer employees than before, but really it is impossible to somehow resolve this issue otherwise, not at the expense of people. And yet, where does the FIU get the costs of its buildings? And before that, a small office with a couple of employees was enough ..
    2. mitrich
      mitrich 27 September 2011 20: 31 New
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      stas,
      and who do you relate to? And one more thing: did you not use STAVR nickname before?
      1. stas 27 September 2011 21: 04 New
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        Who am I if you do not understand, it does not matter. The main thing is you yourself have indicated who you are.
        1. mitrich
          mitrich 27 September 2011 21: 12 New
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          stas,
          I, of course, Putin’s troll. I’m sitting on a huge salary at “EP” and spoiling your mood in the evenings. Nevertheless, you still did not answer my question, although I do not see any offensive notes addressed to you in my question.
          Thanks anyway, Mr. X.
          1. stas 27 September 2011 21: 21 New
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            mitrich
            Your addition to the question appeared in minutes through 5, I have nothing to do with STAVR, some people know me personally on the site, it will not work.
    3. dimon
      dimon 27 September 2011 20: 53 New
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      I think that there will be no sharp decline in programs in general!
      But in the first place will be the implementation of the program for the Armed Forces!
      And for example, pensions will not grow so often
  42. zczczc
    zczczc 27 September 2011 20: 08 New
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    The essence of democracy is to slander people with words about freedom and equality, and earn loot themselves. In the case of Russia - to drag to the West and there to equip yourself a nest.

    Putin would be a saint if he fought with it, and with it it increased at times.

    And who is this Yunchits, from our site?
  43. kagorta 27 September 2011 20: 17 New
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    I’ll ask a “stupid” question, so much for a fight. Do we have an alternative?
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 27 September 2011 20: 32 New
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      kagorta, yes, it is obvious to everyone what to do - to raise the birth rate, stop dumping petrodollars in the USA, sharply raise the industry (abruptly, and not like Putin does!), free education, free medicine. Everyone knows what to do. Only at the helm there is no one who wants to do this.

      Here we need not some genius or superman - we just need someone who will work for us.
    2. Volkhov
      Volkhov 27 September 2011 21: 32 New
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      The alternative is within us - for natural reasons, in a year the familiar state will become impossible and those who survive will be able to create their own according to their concepts - the best will break through. Putin and DAM are good for everyone, but they evacuate a narrow group - they are for their own. Geophysics is more important than political literacy - what kind of marine cancer will you have to retire?
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 27 September 2011 22: 29 New
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        Volkhov, about natural causes did not understand?
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov 27 September 2011 23: 03 New
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          The earth periodically pulsates - the bottom of the oceans rises, etc. We were lucky to catch this moment - therefore, the "elite" is preparing, creating stocks of seeds on Svalbard, bases in Afghanistan (it is not flooded) and other places, but they write off the population, entertaining with politics. It takes a long text to explain everything, first you can open the list of comments "Volkhov".
          1. zczczc
            zczczc 27 September 2011 23: 55 New
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            Well, this is known, but what is the likelihood of such disasters?
            By the way, I did not minus.
  44. stas 27 September 2011 22: 31 New
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    That’s why I can’t understand Putin.
    1. Moscow. 27 September. INTERFAX.RU - The number of poor in Russia in the first half of the 2011 year increased by 2 million people compared to the first half of the 2010 year and reached 21,1 million Russians, Rosstat said on Tuesday.
    "The growth in the number of poor people in the first half of the 2011 year compared with the corresponding period of the previous year is due to a large extent to the high growth rate of the cost of the consumer basket, on the basis of which the cost of living is calculated," the Rosstat review notes.
    2. An excerpt from the Forbes rating "Power and Money", the incomes of only some officials, deputies, senators and heads of state corporations of the Russian Federation on 12 of September 2011;

    1. Andrey Molchanov (EP), member of the Federation Council, with a total family income of 3,295 billion rubles (3,287 billion - own income);
    2. Vladimir Gruzdev (United Russia), Governor of the Tula region, with a total family income of 2,268 billion rubles (444 million - own income);
    3. Andrei Guryev (EP), member of the Federation Council, with a total family income of 2,072 billion rubles (4 million - own income);
    4. Boris Zubitsky (ER), deputy of the State Duma, with a total family income of 1,908 billion rubles (1,907 million - own income);
    5. Nikolai Bortsov (United Russia), deputy of the State Duma, with a total family income of 1,908 billion rubles (1,907 million - own income);
    6. Sergey Darkin (United Russia), Governor of Primorsky Krai, with a total family income of 1,076 billion rubles (1 million - own income);
    7. Evgeny Medvedev (ER), a deputy of the State Duma, with a total family income of 901 million rubles (901 million - own income);
    8. Oleg Grebenkin (ER), deputy of the State Duma, with a total family income of 885 million rubles (883 million - own income);
    9. Grigory Anikeev (ER), deputy of the State Duma, with a total family income of 887 million rubles (887 million - own income);
    10. Vladimir Kogan (EP), ex-director of the department of the Ministry of Regional Development, with a total family income of 829 million rubles (821 million - own income);

    Forbes magazine has identified more than 150 government officials whose family income exceeds one million dollars.
    Forbes recalls that "we are talking only about those who officially declared their income."
    1. dimon
      dimon 27 September 2011 23: 22 New
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      As a result, the authors of the report (World Bank report) came to the following conclusion: after the peak of poverty in 1999, by 2002 Russia was able to reduce poverty by almost half, from 41,5 percent to 19,6 percent, or about 30 million people got out of poverty.
      1. dimon
        dimon 28 September 2011 00: 14 New
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        Well, who puts minus the dry data, not invented by me!
        why are you not online now? and then check if the computer is not far :)
      2. oper66
        oper66 28 September 2011 22: 20 New
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        yes, if we consider from this data both the average salary and pension only how it is calculated, this average salary from a banker to a worker and the average is good, but the fact that the salary is 8-10 thousand rubles mainly in the country, excluding the capital and it got out of poverty
    2. dimon
      dimon 27 September 2011 23: 30 New
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      and here I do not understand the Forbs rating, but I guess!
      indicate the amount of annual income after which you consider that the subject is a thief, a bribe taker or a corrupt official!
    3. zczczc
      zczczc 28 September 2011 12: 24 New
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      stas, not more than last week, GDP spoke of an increased standard of living!
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 28 September 2011 14: 17 New
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        What minus, I didn’t say that, but Putin.
        Something liberals have done a lot for us, they are shaking beards, they are probably thinking where to run.

        Agony, enemies. Your plan collapsed. Euro-integrators are bad ...
        1. stas 28 September 2011 16: 48 New
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          zczczc
          Pay attention, there are some commentators on the Military Review website who participate in the discussion of almost all articles that do not clearly indicate their political conviction, and overtook everyone (s).
          But as soon as the activity of trolls in a particular article increases, there are none on the site for this article, and new lower ranks appear and begin to minus.
          Maybe this is not so, but the fact remains. I just called specifically who minus constantly and unreasonably solodova, and this stopped.
          Maybe wrong. But the "mole" is clearly there.
          1. zczczc
            zczczc 28 September 2011 17: 16 New
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            I do not know about Solodova, not a telepath - she is a girl who is absolutely sensible, as it seemed to me. But the fact that there is a contingent of about 5-8%, who sometimes sing so comfortably, but never admit to being watered. orientation - I noticed, of course. They walked in quiet glanders, remembered and dumped to discuss the greatness of the Jewish army and the problems of Israel in the relevant articles :)

            For example:
            http://topwar.ru/7141-bill-klinton-russkie-glavnaya-problema-izrailya.html
            http://topwar.ru/7128-region-blizhnego-i-srednego-vostoka-proshel-odnu-iz-tochek
            -nevozvrata.html

            And this is not called the mole, but the 5th column - each phenomenon has its own true name. And which is indicative, about 7% are the same in life, i.e. it all fits together.
      2. stas 28 September 2011 15: 46 New
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        This GDP talked about himself and those who faithfully serve him. This is not about us.

        Here the trolls argue that stealing in one pocket is better than living in fairness and conscience.

        If they were Russian or of another nationality living in Russia, they would not have believed it.
        1. zczczc
          zczczc 28 September 2011 17: 21 New
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          stas, in fact, everything is easier - the so-called the liberal "opposition" to liberal Putin is just that part of the liberals that Putin pulled from the feeding trough - he didn’t give a blessing, because if he hadn’t dragged him away, they would have asked and stolen his people from power. The banal competition of two or more liberal circles. In this, our interests coincide with GDP. But the question remains regarding those who are at the feeding trough - nevertheless, is the price paid by the people for supporting the country afloat not excessive? It is obvious that she is already drowning, and it is necessary to change course.
          1. stas 28 September 2011 17: 57 New
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            I absolutely agree, no options.

            Russians have such a belief.
            If God wants to punish a person, he takes away his mind. What happened at the EP Congress, i.e. mutual self-promotion by tandem of each other to the top posts of Russia is devoid of the limits of decency and rationality.

            Not a single western ruler, neither friendly nor obvious enemies, directly approved the steps of the GDP to go for a third term, and even in the arms of DAMA.

            This shaky design, not having time to create, begins to crumble. By March, this painting, written not in oil, is substantially modified. The laws of social and political development of society cannot be tailored to a specific person.

            Many tried, but no one succeeded, only brought death, blood and destruction to the peoples.
            Putin did not understand this, and how do we understand it after that. Also lose your mind?
            1. zczczc
              zczczc 29 September 2011 01: 50 New
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              stas, the fact that not a single western ruler approved Putin’s nomination is more a plus than a minus. About shame - yes, it’s easier with the monarchy, I always said. The monarchy is a system where you do not have to lie for anything practically, i.e. it may be less effective, but disproportionately honest.
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            If the ship is sinking it’s too late to change course, you need to fight for survivability
            or leave this ship.
  45. kazanskii
    kazanskii 27 September 2011 23: 10 New
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    Mr. Junchits! And what was promised to you for such an article? Positions, ranks, regalia? After reading your article, it seems as if you touched something unpleasant, nasty to the touch. Do you yourself feel disgusted?
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      Each person, if he thinks, has his own opinion and this is normal, and
      if you are disgusted and not pleasant just do not read it.
  46. Bogatir
    Bogatir 27 September 2011 23: 39 New
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    "Russia must understand V.V. Putin"
    Now the main question:
    - Should Putin understand Russia?
    1. dimon
      dimon 27 September 2011 23: 50 New
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      A rhetorical question!
      Aren't you, as indeed I quoted ... you cannot understand Russia with your mind ...?
  47. mitrich
    mitrich 28 September 2011 04: 49 New
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    Gentlemen, the Communists, edrenorossy, Zhirinovites, rightly something there, right-handed, fans of Dvorkovich, liberals, pederasts and just normal users!
    Let's not put each other down only because the opponent adheres to a different political platform, because it (the platform) does not mean that "comment is off topic." Moreover, let's not put down the disadvantages where completely innocent questions are asked, like the one I asked the STAS user yesterday. This is just dirty trick.
    Thank you for attention.
    1. solodova 28 September 2011 16: 50 New
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      Mitrich, normal users, especially those who have been here for a long time are unlikely to be minus only for their rejection of watered. and other orientation. And those others who do this are unlikely to listen to you. So we catch the cons, smiling and waving! Yesterday, on the Return of the Jedi, such a minuscule went ... Even nice, such a struggle of opinions. And everyone got it, although they started with the Communists)))
    2. zczczc
      zczczc 28 September 2011 17: 25 New
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      mitrich, this is not taught, it is evident from childhood. There is a child who is against the eyes with unbridled eyes, but who is against, but with arguments. You need to understand that smart liberals do not go to the site "military review", because it is obvious to them that this is not their place. And rabid go everywhere - to foster pleasure from the cradle, so to speak.

      How can one be minus for the presentation of facts - other people's statements, statistics, etc.? This is nonsense. But they don’t understand this. You can only minus the opinion with which I disagree. And then, not silently, but outlining serious counterarguments.
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      You are right, we should not push each other, but simply express our
      point of view.
  48. mind1954
    mind1954 28 September 2011 06: 17 New
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    You can get out of poverty in different ways!

    It is possible to extract oil 500 million tons and sell 300 million tons,
    non-ferrous metals 95%, unmeasured, gas, steel, wood,
    fertilizers, etc. etc. And buy 70% of the food,
    not to mention the rest. Providing beggarly
    the existence of the population, selling the country.

    And you can set up production by creating workers
    places, providing people with jobs and salaries.
    Create a human life - an opportunity for people
    live your work. And inside our state,
    with its capabilities, people themselves will figure it out,
    what is cost-effective and what is not, based on your interests.
    In 1949, Mao-Dze-tung asked I.V. Stalin.
    What is the main thing in government?
    And got an answer. PEOPLE SHOULD WORK !!!

    PS Whatever the statistics in the USSR, I physically
    felt on myself. And for twenty years I have been living in beggars
    handouts of the occupation regime, living what reflected
    statistics in the USSR.
    1. dimon
      dimon 28 September 2011 10: 19 New
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      Very sorry you are no longer young and your century was past!
      Mao Zedong was in power for life and as a result of his labor companies, more than one million people died!
      1. stas 28 September 2011 15: 04 New
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        Dimon, you gentleman would rather have regretted your future generation, your role as a happy toilet brush in the latrine of the tandem is only regrettable.
        Look at the rating of this article, you are in the minority.

        If you believe that, labor turned a monkey into a person, then your thoughts prove that the TV is able to turn a person back into a monkey.
        1. dimon
          dimon 28 September 2011 21: 08 New
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          The hungry field will pass, and the naga - from the spot
      2. zczczc
        zczczc 28 September 2011 17: 28 New
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        dimon, pah plus, by mistake. Who invented to replace +/- with arrows? :)

        You yourself are not young, even if by age and younger. Youth is measured not only over years.
      3. 416494 2 October 2011 17: 57 New
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        Sorry, dimon, I'm from the last century, but I'm really interested in the present century
        and I don’t care at all how my grandchildren will live, how they will live,
        what will be the purpose of their life or just stupidly earn more dollars
        or something else to do for their homeland, their country. These are not high
        words, I just think so. It really hurts me what happened to my
        homeland of the USSR and I really do not want what would happen to Russia.
        And while we do not have a politician with the ability to keep Russia
        afloat except Putin.
  49. kesa1111
    kesa1111 28 September 2011 12: 37 New
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    For the murder of sailors from Kursk, for the bombings of residential buildings, for the refusal to fight corruption, for the killings of generals, politicians, journalists ... For espionage in favor of NATO and the genocide of Russians, systematic destruction of the Russian Federation, theft in especially large ones, to shoot a scumbag Putin.
  50. Agnislav
    Agnislav 28 September 2011 17: 18 New
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    "Shoot, execute, hang,
    The whole "elite" without trial !!! "
    It amuses me very much ...
    Who will fulfill and when ???