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Russia's potential allows 700 to feed millions of people

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Russia's potential allows 700 to feed millions of people


Interview of Vyacheslav Yakushev, Head of the Laboratory of the Agrophysical Research Institute, Doctor of Agricultural Sciences

On how to overcome the crisis in the domestic economy and what role can be played here by the technology of precision farming, in an interview with IA REGNUM, the head of the laboratory "Information support for precision farming" Agrophysical Research Institute, doctor of agricultural sciences Vyacheslav Yakushev.

Vyacheslav Viktorovich, tell me, what are the current positions of Russia in the world food market? How big is the productivity of agriculture in Russia?

In the area of ​​food security, our positions, to put it mildly, are weak. To date, we, unfortunately, can not feed our people, and we have to buy a significant portion of food abroad. In principle, there is nothing terrible in the fact of food imports - many of our products are inappropriate to produce, and some are simply impossible. But it is terrible that the percentage of imports is alarmingly large! By some estimates, it is 35-40% in the country, and in Moscow and St. Petersburg - 80-90%! These are nightmarish indicators, indicating that our country is food dependent on foreign countries, and this is despite the fact that Russia's natural potential allows us to feed about 700 million people!

In your opinion, why can not Russia realize its potential?

The reason, in my opinion, is that the agriculture and the food industry have received negligible attention from the state since the “perestroika”. The area under crops was reduced and reduced, the cattle population decreased dramatically, vegetable seed production was actually destroyed, domestic agricultural machinery was not produced in the proper amount. Conditions were created in the country that it was much more profitable to buy cheap imported food than to invest in the development of its own production. For example, the level of state support in the EU is about 350 euro per 1 hectare. Compared to our support, which is approximately EUR 10 per hectare, this is a huge difference. Even today, under the conditions of sanctions, they are in no hurry to direct subsidies to agriculture. Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced the support of agricultural producers in 2015 for more than 90 billion rubles, but almost no one has seen this money yet, and the sowing works are already starting!

To date, the main purchases of fuel, fertilizers, seeds should already be made! And how to do it if there is simply no money? The agricultural industry is credited to the limit, and new loans can only be obtained at insane interest rates. The government's anti-crisis plan is mainly to support banks. But to the real sector of the economy, in particular to agriculture, this money can only come in the form of very expensive loans. In my opinion, this is wrong. Perhaps there is hope for a simple change of suppliers - importing countries. But this is a dangerous game: if there is a poor harvest in the world, for example in the Southern Hemisphere, some countries will simply stop selling food. There will be serious problems.

Another reason for such a deep drop in food production is the outflow of people from the village to the city. And this process, frankly, began in the USSR. People go to the city because there is more salary, social infrastructure is better developed, there are more prospects for children.

In your opinion, what steps need to be taken today in the first place so that the situation in domestic agriculture will start to improve?

Answering this question, you need to understand that our state today is in a difficult political and, as a result, economic situation. In order to determine priorities and solutions, it is necessary to involve specialists and experts in their fields of knowledge. I would like to do a lot: increase subsidies to agriculture, launch large infrastructure projects in the countryside, develop science, develop and introduce new technologies, raise the level of education of specialized universities and technical schools, ensure access for agricultural producers of ALL levels to the trade counters, strengthen information support for the village in the media. In my opinion, first of all you need to do three things:

First, direct subsidies to agricultural producers should be increased by an order of magnitude. And by no means through loans. But this should be done not politely, but differentially! Relatively speaking, if a farm implements modern resource-saving technologies in its fields, it receives subsidies, if not, then there are no subsidies. This will force manufacturers to actively introduce technologies, at the same time saving resources and increasing the number of products. But subsidies must be substantial and real, otherwise it will not work!

Secondly, the government should set the goal to reach the level of mineral fertilizers and lime materials up to 2020-7 mln. Tons per year by 8. For example, in Soviet times, about 15 million tons of mineral fertilizers were added, and in today's Russia - less than 3 million tons. Liming of the soil is now practically not carried out, as a result, the soil is acidified, that is, it is degrading. Favorable exception here is only Tatarstan. The program to fertilize the soil as a locomotive will pull the entire industry to a new level of productivity! If more fertilizer is applied, yields will increase. This will require technology and specialists. That is, an order for science will be provided. More agricultural equipment will be required, which means that there will be an order for equipment manufacturers. The harvest will increase - more storage facilities will be needed. And this is an order for builders and installers. Further, new capacities for processing will be required, respectively, an order will be provided to manufacturers of processing lines. Such a chain can be continued for quite a long time. By the way, it is necessary to take into account that one workplace in agriculture gives 15 jobs to the rest of the national economy. At the same time, it is necessary to put under strict state control the prices and quality of mineral fertilizers for the domestic producer, as well as the prices of fuels and lubricants.

And finally, it is necessary to develop new, effective resource-saving technologies. They should be developed for all types of agriculture, primarily for livestock and crop production. Crop production is the cornerstone of agriculture: it includes fodder for the livestock industry, bakery products, vegetables and fruits, and much more, including clothing and oils. In the Agrophysical Research Institute, for example, we are engaged in precision farming technologies that allow us, using new technical capabilities, to achieve a significant increase in yield while reducing resource costs and increasing environmental safety.

Could you tell us in more detail what they are?

Thanks to the development of computer technologies and global positioning systems (GPS, GLONASS), precision farming technologies can carry out such agrotechnical operations as sowing, tillage, fertilization, processing with plant protection products, taking into account the heterogeneous field composition according to various indicators. They allow you to achieve impressive economic results, as well as reduce environmental risks and improve product quality. In practice, it looks like this: the tractor drives across the field and determines its location through the global positioning system. Then he gives a command to the control computer, which changes the dose of fertilizer in the course of its movement.

And how much such technologies allow to increase productivity?

We are in 2003, in practice, engaged in the implementation of precision farming technologies. In Menkovsky branch of the Agrophysical Research Institute in the Leningrad region, using these technologies, we get wheat yields around 60-70 c / ha of 2 class (suitable for independent breadmaking) and potatoes of the order 600-650 c / ha! At the same time, the average saving of fertilizers and plant protection products over 5 years was about 35%! Other farms in the Leningrad Region, which use elements of precision farming technology, also have significant results! For example, the yield of carrots increased by 21%, and cabbage by 28%. At the same time, product quality is greatly enhanced.

Are such technologies actively used abroad?

Precision agriculture (precision agriculture) began to be introduced abroad in the 90-ies. We have only zero. But, as is often the case, it all began with us. The founders of overseas “precision agriculture” relied on the work of our scientists (and this, by the way, do not hide) made back in 70-80-s in the framework of the project “Programming Yields”! For well-known reasons, we fell behind precisely in the 90-s and only at the beginning of the 2000-x returned to work in this direction. Today, it can be argued that the technology of precision farming in the main countries - producers of agricultural products - is the norm. For example, in the EU, about 90% of farms use them, in the USA - about 70%, precision farming is widely used in China, Brazil, Japan and other countries.

Then why in Russia the use of precision farming technology is only isolated cases? Why are they still not used across the country?

The main reason, of course, is economic. The introduction of these technologies involves the use of agricultural machinery that can differentiate agrotechnical operations. This technique is expensive. And not only the machines - there is a whole chain of software and hardware, units, and agricultural equipment, equipped with on-board computers and GPS / GLONASS receivers. Unfortunately, agricultural machines capable of differentially conducting agrotechnical operations are practically not produced in our country. For example, there are one or two enterprises that can make such sprayers and distributors of solid fertilizers: these are Samara “Eurotechnika” and Schuchin “ShchRZ” (Belarus). That is one. But we are sure that the situation will change, the equipment will be produced and cheaper. It was just like with mobile phones: at first they were changed to 90's cars, and now everyone has them.

In your opinion, which programs should be followed in order for precision farming technologies to be massively introduced into domestic agriculture?

The introduction of any new technologies, systems and approaches takes time. First of all, it is important to provide staff training. It is necessary to qualitatively change the training program for specialized specialists of agricultural universities and technical schools. Guys should be trained on the latest equipment, technology, software. Today it is not. I know only one place in Russia, where students are taught modern technologies in practice - this is the field station of the Timiryazev Academy. Good practices in the Krasnodar Territory, where geo-information system of the region is implemented, with which students are involved. Training courses are held at the St. Petersburg Agrarian University. But on the scale of our country, this is critically low.

For the mass introduction of precision farming technology, mass availability of appropriate agricultural equipment is also needed. And this is a big problem. Reaching a qualitatively different level of production of machinery is a huge task that still needs to be solved. Such a huge country, like ours, is simply obliged to have agricultural equipment of its own production, especially considering the possible geopolitical risks. Although the placement of branches of foreign manufacturing companies should not be abandoned. They should be put in conditions when cooperation will be mutually beneficial: modern technologies come to us - we open a part of the market. But technology must be advanced, not outdated.

It should be noted that precision farming technologies are impossible without global satellite systems - GPS and GLONASS. Today, there are a lot of offers from foreign manufacturers of top-contact operators (satellite coordinates receivers) with accuracy from 1-2 cm, but there are very few offers for agriculture of domestic producers. Looking for GLONASS receivers submeter (less than a meter) accuracy and course indicators for tractors. I urge the developers of such products to hurry - this is a huge market! And export-oriented - GLONASS works on the entire planet.

Still, the most important part of precision farming is, I think, software (software). Field surveys, satellite imagery, sensors are a collection of field information. Equipment, fertilizers, etc. - This is the performance of operations on the field. And the answer to the main question - WHAT TO DO on the field can only be obtained when making a decision based on the analysis of the collected data, knowledge of the current situation, received by the decision maker, etc. In this question, not only in the exact, but also in ordinary farming, Intelligent Information Systems (IIS) help. The development of such systems is very difficult, but Russia just has great potential in this direction! We have the best mathematics, programmers. We can create software of the highest level, which will be in demand not only in our country, but also abroad. All this will be in demand, of course, subject to substantial direct subsidies to agriculture, otherwise there will be no demand.

In your opinion, how long can you implement such a program?


The tasks associated with the program for universities and technical schools, GLONASS receivers and software development can be implemented fairly quickly - for 2-3 of the year. But the purchase of equipment across the country, of course, will require much more time. And here everything will depend on the amount of assistance from the state. This is a very difficult task, in my opinion, but ultimately doable.

What results can be expected for the crop sector of the country in the event of a massive transition to precision farming technology?


I am sure that the results will be relatively the same in scale as the transition from horse to tractor. Imagine, people lived for centuries in a certain way, where the horse was the main vehicle. And here a tractor is offered! What does it mean? This means that it is necessary to teach mechanics to set up engines, these are diesel fuel and oils, these are repair shops where competent people should work (here, by the way, we return to the issue of training). New professions and opportunities have appeared in the countryside. I'm not talking about the breakthrough of the industry and machine tool industry, which the country has implemented! It will be the same with exact farming. These technologies create a whole IT direction in the village that was previously possible only in the city. In addition, it will be interesting for young people who would like to work in this direction and not leave the village anywhere. In general, I believe that the introduction of precision farming technologies in more than half of the sown areas of Russia will double the average crop yield for cereals, improve product quality and environmental safety. Worldwide and our own experience allows us to be sure of this.
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  1. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 19 March 2015 14: 27
    +10
    RUSSIA is a great and rich country because it has a great people. soldier
    1. Djubal
      Djubal 19 March 2015 14: 29
      +17
      700000000 ... Everyone understood the task ?! To fulfill! :))
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 19 March 2015 14: 44
        +4
        Quote: Djubal
        Everyone understood the task ?!

        Well, to be honest, for me there was no joke here .... I will explain my skepticism.
        These are nightmare indicators, indicating that our country is in food dependence on foreign countries, and this despite the fact that the natural potential of Russia allows us to feed about 700 million people!

        I don't quite understand what kind of "natural" potential he says ... natural is it something that grows by itself or the problem needs to be looked at better? It seems to me that the author, Doctor of Agricultural Sciences Vyacheslav Yakushev, got lost in time ...
        One simple question.
        What potential then
        1. Egypt.
        2. Israel.
        3. China.
        This is what happens .. do they have higher potential?

        PS.
        We have Chinese cabbage, we have Chinese mushrooms ....
        1. Serge Mikhas
          Serge Mikhas 19 March 2015 14: 57
          +15
          We have Chinese cabbage, we have Chinese mushrooms ....


          And our officials are domestic ... We would have Chinese laws on bribery and theft of public money, and Russian cabbage would immediately grow and not only cabbage ...
          1. Sergei1982
            Sergei1982 19 March 2015 16: 05
            +8
            And our officials are domestic ... We would have Chinese laws on bribery and theft of public money, and Russian cabbage would immediately grow and not only cabbage ...
            You are right, I live in the village firsthand with the distribution of subsidies for agricultural support, those who are closer to the body and who are ready to give a rollback receive more, and those who are not ready and work for less honesty.
            1. Scoun
              Scoun 19 March 2015 17: 37
              +3
              Quote: Sergei1982
              familiar firsthand with the distribution of subsidies for agricultural support, those who are closer to the body and are ready to give a rollback receive more

              yes one pro ****** Madame Skrynnik has gotten a lot and hangers-on how many "lathered" ... Personally, I would be very happy to launch a project with spinach (greens, salads) under automatic drip irrigation, but at the first stage it is very difficult to start I would have mastered the project and implementation, and in the implementation I would have done without corrupt networkers .. (((
              1. Talgat
                Talgat 19 March 2015 21: 49
                +2
                "Russia's potential allows us to feed 700 million"

                For God's sake, in no case tell this to the Chinese !! Keep it a secret! smile
            2. Kassandra
              Kassandra 20 March 2015 07: 09
              0
              love I'm sorry, I didn't know that you were from the village (you are). pulled up by some "new Muscovites" who write different things ...
              Especially from the "former".
          2. g1v2
            g1v2 19 March 2015 19: 11
            +5
            In the 80s and 90s, everyone around was worried about the fact that farmers and peasants would feed Russia. Well, that's the result. They destroyed the collective farms and began to wait when these Russian farmers would start feeding. They waited for 20 years until the remnants of the collective farm property wasted. I have a relative - the former chairman of the collective farm with her husband, at the closure of the collective farm, privatized everything she could - a couple of tractors, a piece of land, inventory, part of the cattle. Well, I thought everything - now she will become a millionaire. But it turned out that we also need money and a sales market, where to sell products. In general, she did not become rich, but by rural standards she lives well. Only large enterprises, such as collective farms, can feed the Russian Federation, and now they have begun to appear. Example - Miratorg, which has a bunch of farms and processing plants and billions in turnover. By the way, some oligarchs have cx-enterprises instead of oil in the line of their businesses. Well, if you look at the site "made by us", you can see that since the introduction in the summer of our sanctions against the EU, new livestock complexes, farms and processing plants are being opened every week, so if we don't change it - if our sanctions are not lifted, then most of the meat will be counters will soon become domestic. About vegetable growing and cereals will become more visible in the summer, but I think the sanctions will help us there too.
          3. Djubal
            Djubal 19 March 2015 20: 57
            +2
            Quote: Serge Mikhas
            And our officials are domestic ...

            but they’re just exported to China ... they’ll quickly figure it out
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 19 March 2015 15: 37
          +3
          Quote: Scoun
          It's not entirely clear to me about what "natural" potential he says

          Potential is an opportunity with a competent approach. If you help not even with subsidies, but with state compensation for bank interest on TARGETED loans - agriculture will trample by leaps and bounds. This is a carrot, but you also need a stick. A lot of "Eastern" farmers take land on lease, fill it with chemistry, get a crop and move to another plot. And after them there even weeds do not grow for five years. This is especially often practiced in the Volgograd region. For this you need to plant.
          The only thing the author can be reproached with is a slightly intrusive advertising of high technologies for a farm. hi
          1. Scoun
            Scoun 19 March 2015 17: 42
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The only thing the author can be reproached with is a slightly intrusive advertising of high technologies for agricultural enterprises

            +
            Well, there’s just cultures that don’t really fall under high technology, wheat, oats, flax, and so on, but salads, greens, radishes, cucumbers, tomatoes, they’re getting on well under high technology now, it all depends on the growing season and terms fruiting. ))) something like this )))
      2. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 19 March 2015 14: 50
        +3
        Already! But seriously, it is necessary to catch up and overtake Israel in terms of agriculture, for I am struck by Israeli prudence and reasonableness in relation to cultivation - the same drip irrigation systems.
      3. Orlenok ILLI4A
        Orlenok ILLI4A 19 March 2015 18: 45
        0
        have to perform)))
      4. FACKtoREAL
        FACKtoREAL 20 March 2015 07: 34
        0
        700 Million
        this beautiful figure is "taken from the bulldozer"
        in 2-3 years ...
        "crawl out" 1 billion!
        bully
    2. Motherland Russia
      Motherland Russia 19 March 2015 14: 37
      +5
      I agree with you.

      It is high time we ourselves developed lagging industries.
      And do not be touched by European and American brands.
    3. V
      V 19 March 2015 14: 39
      +1
      If there is potential, then it will be used.
    4. Hellraiser
      Hellraiser 19 March 2015 14: 41
      +2
      So to whom h..rena is not introduced !!! (or it was just invented) request
    5. quote
      quote 19 March 2015 14: 49
      +5
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      RUSSIA is a great and rich country because it has a great people. soldier

      And after the fourth star, the fifth will fall in a row? Indeed, under populism, everything is only in a row! There are no steps. Minus. (The essence is correct, but not with respect to the article)
    6. semirek
      semirek 19 March 2015 15: 40
      0
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      RUSSIA is a great and rich country because it has a great people. soldier

      Mendeleev predicted: by 1955, the population of Russia should by all standards have reached 500 million. person.
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 19 March 2015 16: 22
        +1
        Dmitry Ivanovich, we will be corrected!
  2. science fiction writer
    science fiction writer 19 March 2015 14: 29
    +3
    According to her intelligence, she will feed 1 hours on earth.

  3. mirag2
    mirag2 19 March 2015 14: 30
    +3
    Ha! That's great! Well, we ourselves guessed it, but we also knew about it in the EU. And last year, when I saw on BBS a broadcast about what was good, and I had to go to the forest, collect it for a salad, and preparing to eat beetles (different insects) due to food problems, and there is not enough grain for livestock to grow meat and dairy, the reason for the EU’s ardent desire to deploy in the post-Soviet space, having destroyed the attempts of the Russian Federation (together with the USA) to create a vehicle, was understood.
  4. kit-kat
    kit-kat 19 March 2015 14: 37
    0
    I think 300 ml. Is enough. No more.
  5. vsdvs
    vsdvs 19 March 2015 14: 38
    +8
    One question: did the author visit the village at all? Judging by his fantasies - never.
    1. quote
      quote 19 March 2015 14: 56
      +2
      Quote: vsdvs
      One question: did the author visit the village at all? Judging by his fantasies - never.

      This is remarkably noticed.!
  6. Sasha75
    Sasha75 19 March 2015 14: 38
    +2
    Then I watched the program about mineral fertilizers, they told us that we use 38 kg of fertilizers per hectare, and in Europe 300 kg, that's all the mathematics from the crops.
    1. semirek
      semirek 19 March 2015 15: 49
      0
      Quote: Sasha75
      Then I watched the program about mineral fertilizers, they told us that we use 38 kg of fertilizers per hectare, and in Europe 300 kg, that's all the mathematics from the crops.

      As a result of this, the soil in Europe is so polluted with chemicals and fertilizers that you didn’t eat Dutch potatoes or Polish apples? And you propose to do the same with us? Truly, Russians will ruin Russia!
  7. KOH
    KOH 19 March 2015 14: 39
    +3
    I read the first lines that Russia is import-dependent, and spat ... our bread, our potatoes, cabbage, carrots and so on, I buy meat in the village, local sausage, fish with Far East, in which place we depend ...? there are cheeses like jamon there, so I have never eaten it, I have local cottage cheese and sour cream more like it, everyone yells that we are addicted, and I won’t find where ...
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 19 March 2015 15: 51
      +4
      Quote: CON
      and spat ... our bread, our potatoes, cabbage, carrots, etc. ours, I buy meat in the village, local sausage, fish with the Far East

      Have you been in a store for a long time? Potato now half imported (Egypt, Israel), only Israeli radish, carrot also in half. For cereals - rice is mostly imports. Local sausage ... and from what meat? The largest producer of sausages in the Samara region (Quality Factory) is working ONLY with imported meat. "Cherkizovsiy", "Mikoyan" the same. I don’t think it’s different in other areas. Apples are 90% imports, like all fruits in general. More than half of fish are imported.
      There is dynamics, but small. But in the current world situation is too small.
      Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced support for agricultural producers in 2015
      But I definitely don’t believe him. As one friend of mine said -
      No need to help - do not bother!
      It should be a shame to our government after such words! hi
      1. KOH
        KOH 19 March 2015 16: 13
        +1
        I don’t know who eats the Israeli radish, I don’t eat, I go to the store, potatoes, carrots, onions, cucumbers, all from the cottage ... if you want to eat high-quality, grow it yourself ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 19 March 2015 16: 17
          +1
          Initially, it was a question of mass consumption products, volumes.
          Quote: CON
          If you want to eat quality, grow it yourself ...
          You can’t argue with that. I hardly buy vegetables myself (especially Israeli ones) - a house in the village. But this is far from everyone. hi
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 19 March 2015 16: 23
        -2
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        The potato is now half imported (Egypt, Israel), only Israeli radish, carrot also in half

        It is in which region of people are being poisoned by this abomination?
        In general, it is better not to buy Israeli in the first place, they grow almost everything in the sand with a large amount of fertilizer.
        Secondly, all their vegetables have a nasty taste.
        Third, the price is sky-high. In our region, thank God, this "muck" is not sold.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 19 March 2015 17: 27
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          It is in which region of people are being poisoned by this abomination?

          Any major supermarket.
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Secondly, all their vegetables have a nasty taste.

          Yes, the taste is "specific" laughing
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 19 March 2015 17: 35
            0
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Any major supermarket.

            Interestingly, we have Atak and Magnit and Petrochka from the Crossroads but only potatoes from Israel were on sale, there were no more vegetables and fruits from there.
            And I was lying a very long time feijoa also from Israel, but I have not tried it.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 19 March 2015 18: 00
              +2
              Quote: quilted jacket
              only potatoes from Israel,

              I did not meet carrots in packages? Thin and long. Radish too. Strawberry.
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 19 March 2015 18: 17
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                I did not meet carrots in packages? Thin and long. Radish too. Strawberry.

                We didn’t have stores, in any case I didn’t see it.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 19 March 2015 18: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  We didn’t have stores, in any case I didn’t see it.

                  It is packaged if it comes in large packages. But you can meet this one -
                  .
                  1. padded jacket
                    padded jacket 19 March 2015 19: 05
                    +2
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    It is packaged if it comes in large packages. But you can meet this one -

                    Not when I go (and this is not so often) I take our carrots by weight, which is in the ground.
                    I wouldn’t take Israel for anything that was still lacking - it would take pleasure.
                    1. Krasmash
                      Krasmash 19 March 2015 19: 31
                      +1
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      Not when I go (and this is not so often) I take our carrots by weight, which is in the ground.

                      You have a summer house, but you buy carrots
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      I wouldn’t take Israel for anything that was still lacking - it would take pleasure.

                      laughing laughing laughing
                      1. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 19 March 2015 19: 42
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        You have a summer house, but you buy carrots

                        So what? You won’t go to the cottage every week, and the supply of the house is quite limited (I live in an apartment), so sometimes you have to buy the same potatoes in the store (although there are two more bags in the cellar in the cottage).
                      2. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 19 March 2015 19: 52
                        0
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        You have a summer house, but you buy carrots

                        So what? You won’t go to the cottage every week, and the supply of the house is quite limited (I live in an apartment), so sometimes you have to buy the same potatoes in the store (although there are two more bags in the cellar in the cottage).

                        Brilliant. Buy a basement, or dig it near the house. yes
                      3. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 19 March 2015 19: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Brilliant. Buy a basement, or dig it near the house.

                        We have no basements, I live in the city smile
                      4. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 19 March 2015 19: 57
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                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Brilliant. Buy a basement, or dig it near the house.

                        We have no basements, I live in the city smile

                        We have cellars, I live in the city smileBasement, cellar one and the same garbage.
                      5. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 19 March 2015 20: 02
                        0
                        Krasmash
                        We have cellars, I live in the city

                        Well, see what advanced city you have smile
                        And if I dig something under my high-rise building, I just think the management company "quarters" me for this lol
                      6. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 19 March 2015 20: 04
                        0
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Krasmash
                        We have cellars, I live in the city

                        Well, see what advanced city you have smile
                        And if I dig something under my high-rise building, I just think the management company "quarters" me for this lol

                        And you unfasten their share of their crop. yesAnd the management company is not the owner of the house, it is just an employee.
                      7. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 19 March 2015 20: 07
                        0
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        And you unfasten their share of their crop

                        They need my harvest, and so they "row with a shovel" money.
                      8. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 19 March 2015 20: 08
                        0
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        And you unfasten their share of their crop

                        They need my harvest, and so they "row with a shovel" money.

                        I agree. I also do not particularly like my HOA.
                      9. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 19 March 2015 20: 10
                        0
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        I agree. I also do not particularly like my HOA.

                        At least they gave you a dig to dig.
                      10. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 19 March 2015 20: 13
                        0
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        I agree. I also do not particularly like my HOA.

                        At least they gave you a dig to dig.

                        He’s not near my house.
                      11. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 19 March 2015 20: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        And the management company is not the owner of the house, it is just an employee.

                        Nothing changes from this, no one will give me anyway to dig a "tunnel" under the house.
                        "Hired worker" laughing you try to get rid of it after the conclusion of the contract, if she poorly fulfills her obligations.
                        You still stop running your feet around the courts.
                    2. Kassandra
                      Kassandra 20 March 2015 08: 47
                      0
                      Russian carrots are an Israeli firm, all this is grown, like potatoes, in the Russian Federation. but GMO certainly can be. it definitely happens in potatoes. the beetle dies from it by itself. do you think if your chicken says "halal" then it came from Saudi Arabia chtoli?
                  2. Krasmash
                    Krasmash 19 March 2015 20: 20
                    0
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    It is packaged if it comes in large packages. But you can meet this one -

                    Some suspicious letters, certainly not written in Russian. It is alarming. Although the appearance of the product is presentable.
                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 19 March 2015 20: 30
                      0
                      Quote: Krasmash
                      Some suspicious letters, certainly not written in Russian. It is alarming. Although the appearance of the product is presentable.

                      Because washing (probably the monsters of poor Palestinians make it wash. Or maybe because it is growing in the sand), our native in the dugout means useful and good smile
    2. saag
      saag 19 March 2015 16: 32
      +2
      Quote: CON
      well cheeses like jamon there

      jamon is not cheese, this is ham, ham, only dry
      1. KOH
        KOH 19 March 2015 16: 38
        0
        So I don’t even understand this ..., I thought cheese, thank you enlightened ...
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 19 March 2015 17: 30
        0
        Quote: saag
        it's ham, ham, just dry

        Cured ham. And what we used to call ham is not it, it's just lumpy sausage. hi
  8. pravednik
    pravednik 19 March 2015 14: 41
    +2
    Russia will not feed 7 million people with such a government, but will import products. And yet. Yes. RUSSIA is a GREAT and RICH COUNTRY, but with such a government, with its internal policy that is being implemented, it will soon become poor and decrepit. joy to the western obscurantists.
    1. semirek
      semirek 19 March 2015 15: 56
      -1
      Quote: pravednik
      Russia will not feed 7 million people with such a government, but will import products. And yet. Yes. RUSSIA is a GREAT and RICH COUNTRY, but with such a government, with its internal policy that is being implemented, it will soon become poor and decrepit. joy to the western obscurantists.

      I do not support our government, but excuse me, we collect 100 million grains per year as under the Union, do not mislead people, or are you doing this on purpose?
  9. morpogr
    morpogr 19 March 2015 14: 43
    +2
    The main thing is that the state does not interfere, but helps and creates the conditions for this. And then we will have the agricultural and nuclear industries, the military-industrial complex, space, the oil and gas complex, the chemical industry. Russia will become a self-sufficient country and will not depend on the moods and desires of the American-European pseudo-partners. But they will become more dependent on us.
    1. semirek
      semirek 19 March 2015 16: 02
      -1
      Quote: morpogr
      The main thing is that the state does not interfere, but helps and creates the conditions for this. And then we will have the agricultural and nuclear industries, the military-industrial complex, space, the oil and gas complex, the chemical industry. Russia will become a self-sufficient country and will not depend on the moods and desires of the American-European pseudo-partners. But they will become more dependent on us.

      Sorry, but in what year did you write this comment? Stand up from the couch on which you have been sitting for the last several years, go out onto the street --- everything has changed a long time ago, everything you have already listed is already there.
    2. saag
      saag 19 March 2015 16: 34
      +2
      Quote: morpogr
      The main thing is that the state does not interfere, but helps and creates the conditions for this.

      This is a different country :-)
  10. 787nkx
    787nkx 19 March 2015 14: 45
    -1
    Until every villager with his personal household plots is involved in agricultural production, cardinal changes should not be expected.
    1. quote
      quote 19 March 2015 15: 06
      +2
      Quote: 787nkx
      Until every villager with his personal household plots is involved in agricultural production, cardinal changes should not be expected.

      He has been involved for a long time and this is not a paragraph for metaphors! He himself had 25 hundredths. And how did it help? And to whom and how? (Except for me and the family)? Turn to simple mathematics. Only make up the task on the topic. You will be shocked !! !
    2. semirek
      semirek 19 March 2015 16: 56
      0
      Quote: 787nkx
      Until every villager with his personal household plots is involved in agricultural production, cardinal changes should not be expected.

      And why not a city dweller? So the words of the classic come to mind:
      ... Fellow scholars, end the stabbing,
      drop your experiences, hydride and atigride
      so, sit down in one and a half, wallow to us in Tambovism.
      I suppose you all respect potatoes
      especially when with salt to mash it
      1. 787nkx
        787nkx 20 March 2015 14: 45
        0
        I think that large agricultural holdings will not be able to fully solve the problem.
        Their goal is to build an optimal business process, minimum costs - maximum revenue, rural development and support for the rural population are of little concern to them. It is confirmed by the growth dynamics of grain production - the most profitable option from a business point of view -
        arrived in the spring, plowed, sowed, put up protection, arrived in the autumn, cleaned, thrashed away.
        True technology is modern, seeds, fertilizers are appropriate.
        And people in the countryside are not destiny, participation of local people in such production is minimal.
        In other areas of agricultural production, large companies have the same approach.
        It turns out that sowing our land with trillions of rubles and building new modern facilities, perhaps we will get the necessary amount of products, but
        where will the profits come from these trillions?
        What is the participation of the local population in this production?
        Without detracting from the importance of big business and any other forms of investing in agriculture, I think they will not be able to cope with the task of rural development. They cannot involve the entire rural population in their activities.
        In my opinion, a way out should be sought in the historical traditions of our people.
        Historically, almost all of our people are farmers, and working on the land is in our blood.
        In addition to the main job, every villager has the opportunity to feed himself and several other families from his farmyard.
        Simple arithmetic:
        village, 100 yards feed at least 300 urban families
        district, 10 households feed 000th city.
        This is where the potential for rural development and the instant increase in agricultural production, is just by the necessary amount for full self-sufficiency.
        Today, a villager does not do this, for various reasons.
        Maybe the state out of many trillions allocated to the state program will give a little to the organization of involving a simple peasant in agricultural production.
  11. nizrum
    nizrum 19 March 2015 14: 46
    +3
    It’s not even enough ... China is feeding its billion, and still remains for export ... Are we really less fertile lands?
  12. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 19 March 2015 14: 47
    +1
    Russia's natural potential allows it to feed about 700 million people!
    The country occupies about 1/6 of the land on earth and can feed only 700 million. I wonder where it got such numbers?
    1. Isk1984
      Isk1984 19 March 2015 15: 05
      +1
      Unfortunately. and 1/6 you can use only land, Oryol, Kursk, Orenburg, Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Kransodar Territory, South of Omsk Region, Tomsk, Altai, Stavropol, Rostov, Volgaradskaya, Ulyanovsk, Saratov, plus a couple more regions, the rest are mountains, eternal permafrost ..., tundra, taiga, although what is listed can be used to its fullest ...
      1. semirek
        semirek 19 March 2015 16: 09
        +2
        Quote: Isk1984
        Unfortunately. and 1/6 you can use only land, Oryol, Kursk, Orenburg, Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Kransodar Territory, South of Omsk Region, Tomsk, Altai, Stavropol, Rostov, Volgaradskaya, Ulyanovsk, Saratov, plus a couple more regions, the rest are mountains, eternal permafrost ..., tundra, taiga, although what is listed can be used to its fullest ...

        You forgot to mention the Tyumen region with its 2 million. cereals and the north of the Kemerovo region, where it was delivered 1942. world record for karofel, do not dramatize.
      2. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 19 March 2015 16: 18
        0
        the rest are mountains, permafrost ..., tundra, taiga,
        But If you come up wisely and this area can be used, not just for sowing, but for grazing or raising fish. hi
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      4. saag
        saag 19 March 2015 16: 36
        +1
        Quote: Isk1984
        plus

        Lipetsk, Voronezh
  13. kompotnenado
    kompotnenado 19 March 2015 14: 51
    +3
    What are some useful sanctions. Well done Western bastards. They will force us to work, not to plump while sitting on a pipe.
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  14. EvacuatorBobGrey666
    EvacuatorBobGrey666 19 March 2015 14: 57
    +3
    maybe now we are already feeding, but not our own (I remember in the early 90s I spent my summer holidays in the village all the time, the fields around the village were sown to the horizon, every morning a line of harvesters noisily passed under the windows and somewhere in 97 -98 yy everything faded, not a single combine is even faulty (hell, I believe that they have left for other places to harvest .... and he: "700 million ...", ugh!
  15. super.chupin2013
    super.chupin2013 19 March 2015 15: 01
    +3
    ORDER ABOUT 700mln accepted, went to work
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 19 March 2015 15: 54
      0
      Quote: super.chupin2013
      ORDER ABOUT 700mln accepted, went to work

      Do not call corn! wink
  16. veksha50
    veksha50 19 March 2015 15: 09
    +8
    “In the area of ​​food security, our positions are weak, to put it mildly. Today we, unfortunately, we cannot feed our people, and we have to buy a significant part of food abroad "...

    When I hear this, it starts to shake ... "We, unfortunately ... cannot" ... That's right, YOU - CANNOT create conditions for your agricultural producers ... Or rather - DO NOT WANT ...
    A question to these "WE": why does little Holland, whose territory is mainly occupied by rocks and water, feed dairy products well, at least half of Europe? Why "WE" are forced to buy Polish and Cuban (yes !!!) potatoes in stores ??? Here I can add plums-apples-pears from some unknown country, and so on, and so on ...
    It's just that "YOU" are not "effective", but disgusting managers (or, more simply, in Russian - managers) ... It's just that "YOU" are not patriots of the country in which "YOU" live ... Just "YOU" without leaving outside the Moscow Ring Road, you do not see huge agricultural fields, not just asking, but requiring processing and sowing ...
    Russia and its people can feed far more hypothetical 700 million (who calculated them then?) ... In tsarist times, having neither modern technology nor technology for growing and cultivating crops, it had the opportunity to export and supplied a lot of agricultural products. ..
    It all depends on the owner ... Even in Russia, one region is not like the other ... In the Lipetsk and Voronezh regions, agriculture lives and breathes, and next to it in the Tula region it is below the baseboard ... Land and country need owners and patriots, and not talkers cabinet ...
  17. Hagakure
    Hagakure 19 March 2015 15: 19
    +3
    Before the revolution, carts were oiled with butter ... with real butter.
    1. semirek
      semirek 19 March 2015 16: 13
      0
      Quote: Hagakure
      Before the revolution, carts were oiled with butter ... with real butter.

      It was like that in Altai.
  18. Isk1984
    Isk1984 19 March 2015 15: 27
    +6
    Here is another way to prevent misunderstandings, the village wasn’t better than during the Soviet Union, everything was boiling from fields to rural clubs, in tsarist Russia bread that was exported was often raked from all over Russia to the detriment of farms, grain quality was poor, it lost to Canadian Canadian,
    So the Soviet experience is invaluable, then the village gave everything except bananas ...
    And today, peasants from the village are calling me and saying what you’ll do when loans are at 20% and higher, and there are no delays, but in the west there are 2-3% grace periods, and in our country a friend recently expired, he was arrested imposed on the cows, and under the knife. what kind of support is this ...
    1. semirek
      semirek 19 March 2015 16: 38
      -2
      [quote = Isk1984] Here, so that there would be no misunderstanding, the village would not live better than under the USSR, everything was boiling from fields to rural clubs, in tsarist Russia bread exported was often raked from all over Russia to the detriment of farms, grain quality was poor lost to the Canadian Argentinean,
      So the Soviet experience is invaluable, then the village gave everything except bananas ... Who only gave? There was nothing in the shops except vodka and sprats --- I remember this time: my father is an invalid of war, he was given a can of condensed milk, a can of condensed milk and a pack of Indian tea once a month as a participant in the war, it was not sold freely in stores, it was a turn to get bread for bread, flour too, which, of course, was grown and helped out at the farmyard.
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 19 March 2015 17: 20
        +1
        Quote: semirek
        So the Soviet experience is invaluable, then the village gave everything except bananas ... Who only gave it? In the shops, there was nothing except vodka and sprats --- I remember this time: my father is an invalid of war,


        I agree with you on this, too, but you need to immediately say for sure that there were negative periods both in Tsarist Russia and in the USSR ... And the times that you remember were after the war, and under Khrushchev we did not particularly rush ... However, do not say this about the "times of stagnation" of the so-called, under Brezhnev ... let's really assess the situation ... Yes, in agriculture, for some reason we have always had a "battle for the harvest", but how much was grown and how much did not clean up on time, went under the snow! Yes, it was! But there were also products that went under the snow, and not like now - the ground, long overgrown with weeds, goes under the snow !!! ITS now need to be restored as virgin soil, but before it was fertile land !!!

        The most severe devastation in agriculture went under Gorbachev, when the root gardens - no, they didn’t cut down - uprooted - the tractor - the cable - and forth ...

        And now all sorts of thick-faced glagolut-baslan, but there are no real cases !!! But there are still people who want to work on the ground, only their grief-managers-embezzlers steal the whole hunt. A dozen more years will pass - so this Russian genetic craving for land will completely disappear from a Russian person !!!
        By and large, Russia urgently needs to restore the three whales on which it rests: the Armed forces (thank God, the process is going on here) - industry - agriculture ... If these three whales are afloat - cf ... we do not care all of Europe and America ...
        That's something like ...
  19. solovald
    solovald 19 March 2015 15: 56
    0
    That is why he and the potential - that is, an opportunity. It seems like it is, but in ... potential. In a word, "the elbow is near, but you won't bite."
  20. Takashi
    Takashi 19 March 2015 16: 05
    0
    I was alarmed by the mention of "GLONASS" and about "the world's best programmers and mathematicians". Something is wrong here. Again ... money will be rolled into black earth and space.
    1. semirek
      semirek 19 March 2015 16: 21
      -1
      Dear colleagues, there are many skeptics among us, many still live in the nineties. In order to receive reliable information about the national economy of the Russian Federation, there is a site "Made by us", on this site there is a continuous news feed with a detailed story and photo and video materials, where you may suddenly find out that some kind of factory or factory has been built near your home.
  21. red rocket
    red rocket 19 March 2015 16: 27
    +1
    and what you want, the Peasantry is being destroyed in Russia, people should not have a subsidiary farm in many areas. in Tsarist Russia and the USSR, no one touched the peasants, and the current owners of large agricultural holdings are not profitable to have such competitors, and the peasantry is able to ensure food security.
    1. semirek
      semirek 19 March 2015 17: 31
      0
      Quote: red rocket
      and what you want, the Peasantry is being destroyed in Russia, people should not have a subsidiary farm in many areas. in Tsarist Russia and the USSR, no one touched the peasants, and the current owners of large agricultural holdings are not profitable to have such competitors, and the peasantry is able to ensure food security.

      "In the USSR, no one touched the peasants" --- yes, the Soviet government protected the peasants, even they were even assigned to boarding houses called collective farms, and many were simply dispossessed by taking everything. There are no peasants now --- they have died out like dinosaurs, there are villagers and summer residents from cities. And if you record farmers and landowners as peasants, this is basically not true.
  22. bubla5
    bubla5 19 March 2015 16: 56
    0
    Damn and not a single infection will say that we have expensive energy sources, we have been singing for many years now, we will split the monopolists and carry out the reform, then there will be competition and cheap prices for both fuel and gas and lipaddrichestvo, but time passed, most of the foodstuffs became billionaires and that’s all forgot
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 March 2015 17: 08
      +2
      Quote: bubla5
      Damn and not a single infection will say that we have expensive energy sources, we have been singing for how many years, so we will break up the monopolists and carry out the reform

      Chubais was especially fond of singing this song when he was his head of RAO UES, to split up everything, privatize it, and we will all live well.
      The "enemy" is still the same.
      The first time he deceived the whole country with vouchers, then with electricity, now with nanotechnology he’s fooling everyone.
  23. special
    special 19 March 2015 17: 01
    0
    He, a goat .. la, was not asked how much, when and whom we will feed ...
  24. westland
    westland 19 March 2015 17: 21
    0
    Yeah we can, but we won’t
  25. Shpagolom
    Shpagolom 19 March 2015 17: 27
    +3
    Quote: Djubal
    700000000 ... Everyone understood the task ?! To fulfill! :))


    . But the current political and economic structure is such that 140 .... 100 million can’t feed .... the question is what to do, who should beat the face ?! angry
  26. Yuri 17
    Yuri 17 19 March 2015 20: 21
    0
    Our area was previously all in the fields, the cows were large and still lacked milk, and now warehouses, warehouses and fences are everywhere. It’s good to hear that not everything is ruffled everywhere. We are waiting for the aliens.
    As long as we have oil, we don’t have to talk about the development of our agriculture
  27. brothers
    brothers 19 March 2015 20: 36
    +1
    In general, the article is a medium subtlety of the substitution of concepts, not only high technologies are needed, but high nature management technologies, there is a nuance))
    700 million can not be fed by such methods - oil will run out)))
    Nature-like - yes it is possible, a couple - three billion, man, to feed, easy.
  28. NordUral
    NordUral 19 March 2015 20: 46
    0
    I will say only one thing - and the potential of the Union allowed to bring the population of the USSR to 700000000 by 2050, which would remove all the problems of the present.
  29. Neohumanoyd
    Neohumanoyd 20 March 2015 01: 57
    0
    Quote: NordUral
    I will say only one thing - and the potential of the Union allowed to bring the population of the USSR to 700000000 by 2050, which would remove all the problems of the present.

    With such a population, there would be an alternative "present" with its own problems .... Have you ever been in an officer's hostel ???? If the population is provided with affordable housing ... When several generations live in one building, the demographic process is declining ...