Strelkov in Yekaterinburg predicted the fate of Milosevic to Putin

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Strelkov in Yekaterinburg predicted the fate of Milosevic to Putin


Former Donetsk Defense Minister Igor Strelkov, who came to Yekaterinburg to present the local branch of the Novorossia movement, today at a meeting with his like-minded people in the Tsar Hall of the Ural Mining University said that the fate of Emperor Nicholas II, who was shot at Ural in 1918 year, the correspondent of Znak.com. Another option, according to Strelkov, who is waiting for Putin is the end of the Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic, who died in the 2006 year in the prison in The Hague.

Commenting on the recent peace talks in February of this year in Minsk, Strelkov said that the West “set its sights on repeating the events of a century ago — the First World War. “The most powerful patriotic rise of 1914 of the year, people with flags welcomed the speech of the emperor, who said that Russia decided to stand up for Serbia and fulfill its patriotic duty. Then comes the hard war, it goes on for years. War, where victories are replaced by defeats, defeats - victories. The most severe economic crisis begins, anti-war sentiments are gaining strength. And under this case, the “fifth column”, which then existed and included the Grand Dukes, the top industrialists, the State Duma, all shouted about patriotism, but created a conspiracy, as a result of which Russia suffered a crushing defeat and plunged into many years of confusion "- gave his interpretation of the domestic stories Shooters.



He continued: “Now they have the exact same plan, which they perfectly implement. The president received such credibility in the spring ... just colossal. And then began the fuss incomprehensible. First, New Russia, then - no, not New Russia, but Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics, then there are no people's republics, there are self-proclaimed republics, and now they are separate regions of Ukraine. And people do not understand - how so ?! They seemed to be talking about the Russian world, about supporting their own ... They are really theirs, they are not Kiev shifters who speak Russian, but shout that they are ancient ukry. The calculation lies in the fact that it’s still half a year or so a year, and not only liberals will be against the president, but the patriots will turn against Putin. Then he will repeat the fate of Milosevic, who was overthrown by local liberals with local patriots, because he led a policy that was neither yours nor ours. He did not even bow to the west, and was unable to support the Serbs, which led to mass genocide in Extreme and Kosovo. ”



Strelkov also noted that in the spring of 2014, Vladimir Putin had already taken, from his point of view, a wrong step. “The opportunity was missed to virtually free up the whole of New Russia. Why it was done, it does not make sense to dwell now. But I think that this was done by the “fifth column”, which convinced the president that a different path was needed. As a result, we got an ongoing and more bloody war. She has no end in sight. We received sanctions, unprecedented international pressure. ”



In the words of Strelkov, Putin took another step towards Putin in February in Minsk. “The ambiguous position of Moscow in relation to both republics,” the former defense minister said, leads to the fact that the Russian side is now “semi-blockade”. This is expressed in the “fairly tough” border regime, and now activists have had big problems with the “humanitarian cargo” wire across the border. “Now, any cargo that is carried is subject to customs clearance procedures, payment of taxes. Not all cargo can be transported, if food cargo is one thing, if uniform and equipment is another, ”said Strelkov.



Everything that happens he considers the machinations of the "fifth column". In it, he apparently includes adviser to the head of state Vladislav Surkov, who, according to Strelkov, in Minsk “ran and pranked” the leaders of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko, and the LPR, Igor Plotnitsky, to sign a peace agreement. In a broad sense, Strelkov calls the “fifth column” “people who view Russia as a resource base”, “who are guided by their own interests, occupying high positions in the state apparatus or in industry”. “They can actively shout about the interests of Russia and quietly sponsor Echo of Moscow.” In the afternoon they are patriots, and in the evening they brought [to the editor-in-chief of Ekho Moskvy Aleksey] Venediktov. Their most characteristic feature is that they live and work here, and all accounts, property and families are abroad, ”said Strelkov.



He himself, however, today in Yekaterinburg, presented the movement, which also sees Russia as a resource base. “We are engaged in collecting assistance to the militia, helping the population, the wounded, helping rehabilitate those who need long-term rehabilitation treatment,” said Strelkov at the meeting, stressing that one of the main tasks “to dress and shod 10-15 thousand militiamen” the beginning of the summer campaign. The fact that it will be, he does not doubt.



“Despite the formal truce, despite the fact that the media demonstrate the process of resolving the situation in Novorossiya and Ukraine, we are trying to increase the amount of assistance. Because our own analysis, information received from the field, all suggests that the Ukrainian side regards the third truce as an opportunity to prepare for further combat operations, for the complete suppression of the national liberation movement of the people of Donbass, for its total destruction, ” Shooters.



“Kiev, which is ruled by America, does not make any concessions. These people do not have any independence, they were, are and remain a junta created with foreign money. Ukraine is a tool that targets Russia. Even if the war in the Donbas did not take place, even if Russia did not annex the Crimea, the Kiev authorities would still be at war with Russia, ”Strelkov continued. “We conclude that this year the fighting in the Donbass will resume, and will resume soon enough, and the war will unfold even more widely than it was fought during the autumn campaign and winter”. At the same time, he stressed several times that Ukraine "is part of Russia." “Russia is expected in Odessa, and in Kharkov, and in Kherson, and in Nikolaevsk. In fact, a lot of people are waiting for Russia in Kiev. Waiting for Russia in Kiev, including people who consider themselves Ukrainians. Yes, they are crushed by propaganda and terror, but they are, ”said Strelkov, hinting at the size of the future theater of military operations.





It is interesting that at the same time he is far from being of the highest opinion about the order now existing in the DPR and the LPR: “In the Luhansk region there is generally Makhnovshchina, an internecine struggle is underway. And this applies not only to the attempt on [the commander of the brigade "Ghost" Alexei] Brain (March 7 - ed.). It has under itself, including property sections, financial. The Donbass has always been a criminalized region, and the conditions of military operations have fallen to the level of robber barons. There are units that have never been on the front line and are not going to. Nevertheless, they consider themselves to be the Militia and the Cossack Guard. ” Strelkov did not even conceal the fact that part of the humanitarian aid sent to the south-east of Ukraine was simply being plundered, stressing only that his movement was trying to fight it.





The meeting at the USGU lasted more than two hours. Originally planned as a press conference, it was reduced to a conversation with like-minded former DPR Minister of Defense. He left the university Strelkov accompanied by his wife Miroslava Reginskaya. At the front porch, a couple was waiting for a Mercedes S5001 with Perm numbers (yesterday Strelkov opened a branch of “Novorossiya” in the capital of the Urals).
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    1. +2
      18 March 2015 14: 18
      Girkin takes on a lot.
      Isn't it time for him to go to Donbas again?
      1. +30
        18 March 2015 14: 23
        the Ukrainian side sees the third truce as an opportunity to prepare for the further conduct of hostilities, for the complete suppression of the national liberation movement of the people of Donbass, for its complete destruction

        You just need to stop the duality in this matter: It will be an attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, which means Russia will recognize the DPR and LPR with all the ensuing consequences.

        Author, why "upside down"?
        He himself, however, today in Yekaterinburg presented the movement, which also considers Russia as a resource base


        It is unpleasant that too much "behind-the-scenes fuss" is going on now around the administration in the DPR and LPR. Napoleon was right: "A revolution is conceived by geniuses, they are made by fools, but bastards use its fruits." It's sad.
        1. ligronok1998
          +17
          18 March 2015 14: 54
          Actually, in recent interviews, he said that if the punitive battalions were not disarmed, then we would recognize Novorossia - all the consequences ... As for Strelkov, he really began to say something incomprehensible ... But we'll see ...
          1. +4
            18 March 2015 15: 49
            Quote: ligronok1998
            As for Strelkova, he really began to say something incomprehensible ...


            At the forum "Forum-antikvariat.ru"

            http://forum-antikvariat.ru/topic/211943-zapad-vs-vostok-ukrainy-5/page__st__285
            0

            Strelkov, being a moderator under the nickname "Kotych", writes the following about "Givi" ....



            After such words, I begin to understand why Strelkov did not find a common language with the squad leaders. It may be for the best that he is in Russia.
            1. +8
              18 March 2015 17: 22
              http://vk.com/lugansk_all_news?w=wall-61706629_703779
              URGENT MESSAGE FROM THE LNR ARMY !!! We ask you to share with friends as much as possible in order to warn or avoid further provocations in advance! In the village of Lugansk LPR, about 30-40 Ukrainian soldiers with a large number of videographers and film crews shot a couple of times across the bridge and set fire to one of the buildings. Now they are dressing up in uniform with the LNR army stripes, with St. George ribbons and our other attributes. The next large-scale provocation is being prepared. The first stuffing in UkroSMI has already gone. A HUGE PLEASE HELP TO DISCARD !!!
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          2. lankrus
            +7
            18 March 2015 17: 43
            Quote: ligronok1998
            As for Strelkov, he really began to say something incomprehensible ..

            Why incomprehensible? He talks about this constantly, only the conversation is about the betrayal of our elites. There are a lot of such facts. They have now blocked the humanitarian aid to Novorossia, people are dying of hunger, and the border guards, except for the Ministry of Emergencies, are not letting go. The government allocated money as part of an IMF loan to wage war with the Russians and more. You can go on forever.
            The task of the United States to remove Putin, and in this they are trying to rely on our corrupt elite. Think not a ride? Who destroyed the USSR, our elites. Who helped in the extradition of Milosevic, and topple Sadam. A coup in Ukraine. Only the naive thinks that the people, in fact, the venality of the elites contributes to all these colorful revolution.
            Something recently, this resource has become just a Bandera mouthpiece. Permanent articles trying to discredit Strelkova. And some of our couch fellows are just happy to join the ranks of the enemy, doing one thing, trying to trample Igor Ivanovich. At the same time they mold the most arrogant lie and attribute to him the wildest utterances.
            Refer to the source. Here http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2067371.htm Strelkov answers all questions.
            1. +4
              18 March 2015 21: 18
              lankrus (1
              Who does Strelkov work for?
              Strelkov, in a conversation with Starikov, "debunks the myth" about the voluntary reunification of Crimea and the general voting in the referendum. It turns out that the representatives of the people were "FORCEDLY IMPOSED on the decision already made in the Russian upper circles".
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G04tXnvKx8Y

              Who does he work for if he CONFIRMS all the black myths of liberals and Westerners?

              Starikov, please treat him as you please, but he clearly showed the relationship between Strelkov’s current behavior and fuss of liberal structures, the Maidan from the liberals doesn’t work, the Germans banged for nothing, so get the Maidan from the shooter.
              Special services do not sleep, play out ..
              1. lankrus
                +1
                18 March 2015 22: 12
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                Strelkov, in a conversation with Starikov, "debunks the myth" about the voluntary reunification of Crimea and the general voting in the referendum.


                My friend, who are you for? What are you trying to prove here? All this liberal riffraff, which PR is that pouring dirt on Strelkova is worthless. I know one thing, a war will happen and Strelkov will defend Russia, but we are likely to see all sorts of Kurginyans, Borodaev and the like on the other side of the barricades.
                Choose for whom you are, for the patriot of Russia or for corrupt rumblers, or you have already chosen, judging by the comments.
                As for the Crimea, Putin did everything right, and Strelkov is only a performer.
                1. +6
                  18 March 2015 22: 23
                  lankrus
                  And what a hysteria, so loud?
                  Also from the SSS sect?
                  I do not consider him a patriot, Russia.
                  I do not consider his White Monarchist project as something necessary for Russia.
                  I do not see him as any Leader, whatever, except for the leader of the partisan detachment and that is not particularly successful.

                  I see in him a sadly wandering knight of a hangover image who proudly and with dignity retreats back, as befits all Drozdovites and other whites.

                  Strelkova, Putin, did not appoint a performer and his participation there on a scale higher than an individual figure is not confirmed by anyone.

                  So there is no need to arrange a clowning, telling that you know for someone more than him about himself and all the more so hysterically try to blame me here for something.

                  I expressed my opinion, relying on those who understand the process, from you only a set of screams, commas and yelling, splashing the monitor, it's not a tricky thing, and nothing more, get your thoughts together.
                  1. lankrus
                    -4
                    19 March 2015 00: 53
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    I see in him a sadly wandering knight of a hangover image who proudly and with dignity retreats back, as befits all Drozdovites and other whites.

                    Everything is clear. Surkov or Kurginyan's nestling chick. A professional loser and a Troll whose meaning is life to fool. Nude Nude. Continue, only life is short, and the bile that you squeeze out of yourself so diligently will reduce it.
                    1. 0
                      19 March 2015 09: 24
                      lankrus
                      "Nu-nu. Continue, only life is short, and the bile, which you so diligently squeeze out of yourself, it reduces it." - THAT is you, you yourself will pretty much reduce it, if you stay in the CCC, this is just like and the fact that the sun is a star and the earth revolves around the sun, and not vice versa.
                      And at the expense of your unluckiness, you know better why you are so unlucky, either from natural foolishness, or induced stupidity, or for some other reason, for example, for a fee.
                    2. 0
                      19 March 2015 13: 01
                      lankrus
                      Fold the puzzle, young man, fold and you will get that the site was not chosen by chance, as a nest of forces directly hostile to Russia.

                      The activities of the same notorious deputy of the Yekaterinburg City Duma and friend of Yevgeny Roizman - Konstantin Kiselev. A professor at the Institute of Philosophy and Law and USU visited the USA and Kiev, lectured students on the "benefits" of Maidan and positively noted the "contribution" of Yarosh and Turchinov to the "building of the Ukrainian nation", and even prepared an online conference with the leader of the "Right Sector" in Yekaterinburg.

                      There in this USU, Strelkov sits, an accident? Oh ...
                2. +1
                  19 March 2015 01: 00
                  That is, the Crimea was annexed? WHAT DOES the Rifleman have to the Crimea, he was there a pawn.
            2. +2
              19 March 2015 00: 57
              Quote: lankrus
              Why incomprehensible? He talks about this constantly, only the conversation is about the betrayal of our elites. There are a lot of such facts.

              Damn, that's where you come from. With such thoughts, and you will run to Maidan. My poor country is patriots of the DPRK or paid.
              1. lankrus
                -1
                19 March 2015 06: 58
                Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                Damn, that's where you come from. With such thoughts, and you will run to Maidan. My poor country is patriots of the DPRK or paid.


                I wonder where you come from, it seems from the Maidan or just naive children?
              2. +1
                19 March 2015 09: 31
                Rusich is not from Kiev
                Colleague ... there is such a thing, the West was betting on two, so to speak, figures, the first is the whole liberalism, whose attempt to arrange a Maidan was suppressed on Bolotnaya, the resuscitation of this rot, we see in the fact of the murder of Nemtsov from which they tried to sculpt an icon of "resistance" in Russia ...
                But since such as Nemtsov and K, they forever compromised themselves by stealing and destroying the country in 90, this design of a liberal maidan did not work out.
                Now, the second Maidan figure has been launched into action from the standpoint of patriotism, from here the constant cries merged the Donbass, all the while, the other cries of a whooper sound.

                Against this background, they are assembling the construction, the Uryakvasgazpatrieta, on the example of the Belykh, monarchists and part of the frenzied nationalists (Sputnik and Pogrom) -the leaders push Strelkov, in the hope that his figure will be enough to arrange another storm in his white banners country.

                A calculated option with Strelkov was expressed in the fact that he, like him, was removed from Donbass, and the fuss inside is called fuss, but the cap is already hanging over you.
                Trying to twitch, the kayuk will come instantly.
        2. +12
          18 March 2015 14: 55
          here it is also sad that Strelkov began for his health, and then sharply "dull" and began for the repose.
          because he understands the analogy of joining Serbia, and that if the United States gets involved in the open, then IT will be the analogue of the First World War, and not the conflict in the Donbass. the conflict in the Southeast is not sharpening Russia, but kaklov. they have less and less time, like the United States.
          and how Strelkov cannot understand this xs. and honestly, looking at some of his tricks, I generally get the opinion that he is a Westerner disguising himself as a Russian patriot. and success in Slavyansk was only to bury the scum from the Maidan, then they really got rid of them, I have relatives in Slavyansk, and all the successes of the militia there are not because of Strelkov’s wisdom, but because of the banal stupidity of kaklov, and there is an opinion from locals that this stupidity was intentional; there they simply burned maidan garbage. and after they got rid of, they suddenly started to have successes that only Russian militias who helped massively go to Ukraine helped stop.
        3. +8
          18 March 2015 15: 21
          bort4145
          Something this monarchist took too much on himself.
          As if he didn’t unscrew his head for the preparation of the REBELLION, even if he is now hiding behind the absolutely necessary thing, to provide humanitarian assistance to Donbass, I DO NOT NEED ANY OTHER help.
          Quote from a person who has not yet been mistaken in his forecasts, R. Ishchenko- "Putin's Strategic Plan

          The process of creating a regular army of Novorossiya and the elimination of the atamanschina, coming to a logical conclusion, as well as the gradual building of a more or less efficient administrative structure of the region, actualized the question of the future fate of the DPR and LPR. It was at this time that the adherents of the “Putinslil” sect became more active. We must hate Putin with every fiber of our soul so that even the process of reorganizing the militia into the army, recognized by the alarmists themselves, is interpreted as a drain on Novorossia. Nothing but an irrational hatred of the Russian president can logically and consistently explain the position of Russian patriotic alarmists, who, following the Ukrainian Nazis, believe that Putin is to blame for everything simply because he is to blame. "
          1. +4
            18 March 2015 20: 10
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            Something this monarchist took too much on himself.

            As my ancestors said: too sharp a sword is bad because it cuts its own scabbard!
            1. +3
              18 March 2015 21: 19
              Jungar
              If he also cuts his legs, dulling right away in the first battle, then this is a useless sword.
        4. +12
          18 March 2015 15: 24
          vladkavkaz
          And the second quote - "If there was a desire to merge Novorossiya, it would not have existed for a long time. In April-May 2014, even in August, one could calmly say:" Yes, Crimea was saved, but the rest of the forces were not enough. " patriotic enthusiasm from the return of Crimea, society would calmly swallow the refusal to support Novorossiya.And no retired FSB colonel, if he were Eugene of Savoy, Duke of Marlborough, Bonaparte and Prince of Italy, Count Suvorov-Rymniksky in one person, with twenty of his colleagues, would not be able to stop the army (even such as the Ukrainian one) without direct Russian assistance. It is impossible for one government department to support the "just struggle of Novorossia", and another would "merge" it with complete non-resistance to evil by violence from the president. Legends of the eternally warring Kremlin "towers" are good for lovers of conspiracy theory, as well as in order to fool the head of the CIA, the political actions of the Kremlin are carefully thought out, otherwise Russia simply would not have resisted ame Rican power, which until recently significantly exceeded the capabilities of Moscow.

          For those who are going to be drained, the army is not created. This, however, does not mean that there are no hidden meanings in the Novorossiysk problem, that the fate of this political entity is so cloudless. "

          And for UNDERSTANDING, and not screaming about Novorossiya- "Temporary project?

          But for the integration of the whole of Ukraine into Russia, a certain Novorossiya is no more needed than for the creation of a unified federal non-aligned Ukraine, that is, it is not needed at all. Why create not understand what kind of Novorossia, if Kharkov and Donetsk, Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk are quietly integrated into Russia by regions? In addition, if you create a certain Novorossiysk state, then soon it will have its own political elite, willing to receive more from Russia and give less; then the idea of ​​the ancient Novorossiysk nation will be born - you have to somehow justify the existence of the Novorossiysk state. In the end, Russia will receive for its money a new Ukraine on its borders, only under the name Novorossiya. And start over ... "
          1. +6
            18 March 2015 15: 53
            vladkavkaz
            For very "gifted" witnesses of the strelkov sect, as well as those present on the site ukropianstvuyu advocates of svidomism-MINUS can sculpt to complete madness, confirming each minus his intellectual insignificance.

            Rostislav Ishchenko is right, in his vision of the situation, he is absolutely right when he says-RUSS should be united.
            Anyone who is against and does not understand this will dig his own grave, figuratively, and possibly real.

            Quote- "Novorossiya is a temporary project, designed for the period of the civil war and designed to ensure a military victory and international legal justification for the liquidation of the Kiev neo-Nazi state, without formally involving Russia in the process.

            I am sure that after the victory of the Novorossiya army, the evidence of the atrocities of the Kiev regime will be more than enough for the world community, including accomplices of the Kiev Nazis from the USA and the EU, to recognize the new government as legitimate and legitimate.
            And when the legitimate and legitimate government decides that the Russians of Novorossiya need to return home - to historical Russia, it will be too late to be indignant. "

            And no girkiny, this will not hurt.
            1. +3
              18 March 2015 18: 17
              Quote: vladkavkaz
              after the victory of the army of New Russia

              Yes, there is no army of Novorossia, and Novorossia as such even, because it does not even have administrative borders, it’s just word formation for the electorate, which is withdrawn from circulation and replaced by a single Ukraine
              1. 0
                18 March 2015 18: 25
                saag (
                Do not be bullshit.

                Zyuganov: The surrender of positions in New Russia means the war in the Crimea
                politlife.ru - The decision to reunite Russia with Crimea was a fulcrum that allowed us to save our country from a major war, said Gennady Zyuganov, leader of the Communist Party faction in the State Duma of the Russian Federation. As a REGNUM correspondent reports on March 18, he said this to reporters before the State Duma plenary meeting. Read completely...
                How would you not relate to Zyuganov and the Communist Party, but he knows more than some shooters, something swarming around and around the events in the Donbass.
                Challenge- "the liberation of Ukraine from Nazism is formally produced by Ukrainian troops. The army of Novorossiya is the same side of the civil war as the army of Kiev, therefore, we are not talking about an external invasion, but about an internal struggle. The winner in a civil war is legitimized by the very fact of victory, he does not need additional legitimation. The new Ukrainian government has the right to any foreign policy choice. At the same time, the decision to restore the state unity of Ukraine and Russia can be submitted as forced, caused by the state of humanitarian catastrophe into which the Nazi regime plunged Ukraine, and the inability to cope with By the way, the Nazis themselves and their accomplices (those of them who will not have time to hide outside Ukraine) will also benefit from Ukraine's entry into Russia.The fact is that there is regular legal proceedings in Russia, and the law extends its protection to everyone, regardless of ideological preferences. iks of the Nazis, who did not shed blood, but only "fought" in social networks, can feel safe. "
                Can you?
                1. +1
                  18 March 2015 18: 53
                  Quote: vladkavkaz
                  The fact is that Russia has regular legal proceedings, and the law extends its protection to everyone, regardless of ideological preferences. Therefore, Nazi supporters who did not spill blood, but only “fought” on social networks, can feel safe.

                  Well, they detained Goncharenko, who participated in the Odessa events and let him go, he really can feel safe, but in the Soviet Union they acted completely different, completely ...
                  1. +1
                    18 March 2015 19: 17
                    saag
                    "Yes, there is no army of Novorossia, and Novorossia as such, even, because it does not even have an administrative one ..." - if you think in terms of partisanism from the time of riflemen, in Slavyansk, then yes, there is no ARMY, but if you look SOZVO at things and call everything by their proper names, then in the LDNR, there is an ARMY. And the whole herd of running do not understand how and where the formations are brought to a common denominator.
                    What existed before September, and if it existed now-would lead to the complete defeat of the Donbass, are you able to understand?

                    And if this is not the case, but the ukrovermacht is defeated, then this speaks for the fact that it was the LRA that created the ARMY, consisting of so far two corps with different brigade filling .. THIS is also a FACT, not denied.

                    Makhnovshchina-strekovshchina, unable to win, even such a miserable proto-army as the Sun Ruins.

                    The numbering brigades of LDNR in their combat qualities are superior to those that still bear in their names all kinds of names left over from partisans — THIS IS A UNKENGENABLE fact.

                    The fact that this Mr. Mr. Goncharenko was released, does not mean that the whole public will turn out to be unpunished.

                    But thinking now, with all my deepest respect for my enormous homeland of the USSR, is impossible, time is not right, circumstances have changed and methods have also changed.
                  2. +1
                    19 March 2015 06: 51
                    and the recruiters had to trumpet the whole world that another yolupen was recruited?
              2. 0
                16 July 2017 02: 50
                Customs between the LPR and the DPR confirm this ...
      2. +1
        18 March 2015 14: 28
        There was a fear that the surname Girkin was not without reason.
        At first, as it were, Strelkov did well ..
        Then reviews from the DNI and LC about him, to put it mildly, not very ...
        Now some "rotten" ideas ...

        This reminds the Bolsheviks of 1917, many were also "gi-y-kin". As a result, they laid a bunch of Russian people, and became commissars.
        The happiness of Russia that Stalin stood in their way, still can not forgive him.
        The GDP is certainly not Stalin, but why should the boat be loosened?
        1. +24
          18 March 2015 14: 44
          Quote: Skif83
          This reminds the Bolsheviks of 1917, many were also "gi-y-kin".

          Not at all
          Quote: Skif83
          "gi-s-kin"
          laid the foundation for the collapse of the Russian Empire.
          The nobility degenerated, the sovereign is clearly not a strategist, the sovereign was rather weak ... Only he could state that, they say, "All around is treason, cowardice and deceit." request
          And Strelkov quite rightly warns: many in the so-called elite are sons of bitches (as under the last tsar), they must be feared, they must be mobilized for an independent economic existence, the mercilessly pro-Western corrupt compradors who are lovers of the "golden calf" must be given more force banderlog in the Donbass, because the complete defeat of ukrovoy is possible only if the battles on the front line and the defeat of enemy troops in the tactical zone will be replaced by the defeat to the entire depth of the operational formation of troops.
          For without the defeat of the "viiskovaya power" the leaders of the banderlog will be able to keep even those who have gone nuts from the economic collapse in check.
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        3. -7
          18 March 2015 14: 53
          Quote: Skif83
          There was a fear that the surname Girkin was not without reason.
          At first, as it were, Strelkov did well ..
          Then reviews from the DNI and LC about him, to put it mildly, not very ...
          Now some "rotten" ideas ...

          For this is a plus.

          Quote: Skif83
          This reminds the Bolsheviks of 1917, many were also "gi-y-kin". As a result, they laid a bunch of Russian people, and became commissars.

          For this, a hundred minuses.

          Quote: Skif83
          The happiness of Russia that Stalin stood in their way, still can not forgive him.

          And this is complete insanity!
          1. +12
            18 March 2015 15: 25
            What is insanity? What prevented the appearance on the site of Red Judea, Red Khazaria? Or do you think that Leva Bronstein is better than Hitler? Rather, the opposite. Or you see the world in pink glasses, you study literature according to Rezun and Solzhenitsyn, and politics according to Psachka.
          2. 0
            18 March 2015 16: 02
            Quote: Homo
            Quote: Skif83
            There was a fear that the surname Girkin was not without reason.
            At first, as it were, Strelkov did well ..
            Then reviews from the DNI and LC about him, to put it mildly, not very ...
            Now some "rotten" ideas ...

            For this is a plus.

            Quote: Skif83
            This reminds the Bolsheviks of 1917, many were also "gi-y-kin". As a result, they laid a bunch of Russian people, and became commissars.

            For this, a hundred minuses.

            Quote: Skif83
            The happiness of Russia that Stalin stood in their way, still can not forgive him.

            And this is complete insanity!


            You are a little wrong. I want to advise you to read a book

            N. Starikova "1917 - Revolution or special operation".

            It is written in simple language, so it is very easy to read.
            By the way, the 1917 coup resembles, in some way, Ukraine 2014.
            1. +1
              18 March 2015 16: 26
              Defense

              Who thinks that prompted- "By the way, the coup of 1917 reminds something of Ukraine in 2014." Where and in what similarities did you see?
              The only and completely overlapping similarity is the similarity between Ukraine in 2014 and Germany in 1933.

              “The term“ seizure of power ”is used both to denote the process of liquidating democracy and establishing the dominance of the NSDAP, and in relation to the appointment of Adolf Hitler as Chancellor of the Weimar Republic on January 30, 1933. During the Third Reich, it was associated with the“ Potsdam Day ”on March 21, 1933.

              The takeover implies that the NSDAP deprived the power of the freely elected parliament and the rule of law against their will and by illegal means. The NSDAP enjoyed the support of a significant part of the population, the maximum votes (13,7 million) it received on July 31, 1932 in the elections to the Reichstag (fourth elections in five months), but even at this climax the party was unable to win an absolute majority in parliament. Hitler lost to Hindenburg in the presidential election. Hitler's attempt to negotiate with Hindenburg about his appointment as Reich Chancellor ended in failure because his party did not have a majority in the Reichstag. "
              CHANGE the names of the actors, the names of the parties and you will see practically an ANALOGUE of 14 years in Ukraine and Germany 33.
              1. 0
                18 March 2015 17: 04
                Eh ... it turns out that simple thoughts, the members of the CCC, as well as the haters of the Red Project, do not directly fit in the skull, when they try to actually compare the Nazi coup with the year 17, what a little educational program, for especially stoned "mueslitel"
                The collective West - the USA and Europe - not only refuses to see this obvious danger, but also helps the development of Ukrainian retronacism in a modernized version.
                In this connection, one recalls such actions, which were vainly forgotten from the old times, such as the granting of refuge to S. Bandera and the leaders of Ukrainian collaborators in the USA and European countries; the request of R. Reagan granted by M. Gorbachev to amnesty Ukrainian dissidents (subsequently the founders of the Movement “Rukh”); Ignored the increasingly disturbing information received from various sources in the 90s about the development of Russophobia and the formation of an anti-Russian mentality in Ukraine in parallel with the creation by the Americans of the Ukrainian elite of an influential pro-American layer.
                When comparing today's Ukraine with Germany between the First and Second World Wars, there are similarities between some elements of the Ukrainian and German situations of different eras. The similarities are all the more remarkable because, it seems, before the pro-American anti-Russian group with a strong neo-Nazi component came to power, in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods, the people and the authorities of Ukraine adhered to an anti-fascist orientation and had a clear historical memory. However, within a few months of 2014, the political technologies and the information war made a kind of revolution in the minds of Ukrainians, thanks to which both history and today's events are perceived in Ukraine differently than a year and a half ago. It would be impossible if in the 90s of the last century and the zero years of the present Ukraine there was no systemic reformatting of education and culture in the anti-Russian and anti-Russian direction: the ground for the information war was prepared by the Ukrainian authorities before Euromaidan.

                And when in December 2013 - February 2014. hostility and hatred of everything Russian and Russian began to go off-scale, it turned out: there are no forces in the country capable of blocking the road to neo-Nazis.
        4. +2
          18 March 2015 15: 05
          Yeah, I was starred and ... I, because they are all far from Putin, sorry, you think one thing about a person and he tells you himself, in vain, you think so about me ... we voted for Putin because we believed in Russia , and he believes in what Russia, if he sings such a song - "probably very much believed in himself" ....?!
          1. +1
            18 March 2015 15: 19
            It’s clear who put the minus, but ... unfortunately the words from the song can’t be cut out ....
            1. +3
              18 March 2015 15: 40
              Cons set for the fact that you yourself recorded ....... further understand.
          2. 0
            18 March 2015 16: 15
            Yeah, starred yes and ... I ...



            After reviewing a bunch of his speeches, I realized that he is very correct and speaks a lot of truth. He tells her so much that she began to do more harm than good. He does not understand that it is possible to achieve the goal not only through war, but also through politics. And our Putin, several times smarter than him, as he achieves his goal by combining war, politics, geopolitics and much more together.
        5. +1
          18 March 2015 15: 35
          Skif83
          Your knowledge of the 17th year, a kind of induced by the IDDOI, which is used by all kinds of liberals and the like, in order to prevent under any sauce even the return of socidea in Russia, and JUST, not allowing the RETURN of Russia as a country, the first among equals, by repeating the stupidity that they say the Russians as such were ruled, ruled and constantly muddled up by Jews exclusively, DO YOU NOT BE ashamed to admit a few, so to speak, not a very smart person?

          If you know that at the head of the rebellion in February 17 against Nicholas 2, stood the primordial-Russian members of the aristocratic, oldest families of Russia, merchants, industrialists and Black Hundreds?
          With a very, very great participation of the gesheftmacher who generously sponsored all the princes of Lvov and K?

          It’s not very comfortable for you to understand a thing as simple as three kopeks, in the Red Army, it was not the Jews who you are yelling at, but the RUSSIAN people who were talking about the Februaryists, and then an attempt to restore power to all these Lviv, Romanov, Kolchaks and other Denikinis, who fought in Civil War, was not needed for nothing?
          Is it not difficult for you to understand that 41 is an attempt to strangle Russia, which did not fit into the Naglo-Saxon project? Even if formally, the Naglo-Saxons "fought" against Germany? a bunch of them Gaidar-Chubais, flesh of the flesh of those same Februaryists?

          Girkin and K, a project of monarchists and narrow-minded nationalists in Russia, the country does not need them for nothing. Except for those who screeching and howling, drag to the "throne" either Masha Hohenzollern, or her bastard Gosha, at worst, Mishka of Kent, and they are all to the heap, the Anglo-Saxon project.
          1. -3
            18 March 2015 17: 10
            vladkavkaz
            Minusator, show your physiognomy, I will at least look at you, assess the degree of your mind.
            And then ka is sneaky, from around the corner, like Svidomo or liberal.st, you do.
            Is it difficult to protest, counterargument?
            1. +2
              18 March 2015 17: 33
              Quote: vladkavkaz
              Minusator, show your face

              I wasn’t, I’m not a member, I wasn’t involved, especially since I didn’t minus you to this post, but respect the norms of the Russian language.
              Not a minuser, but minusers. They are far from alone.
              hi
              1. -1
                18 March 2015 18: 21
                Cynic (
                Colleague, once again, I see 1 minus, respectively, I say a minusator.
                Even if there are a dozen of them, even in this case, I expressed my position by citing the ARGUMENT, the minuser (or the minusers), either they are afraid, or because of the inborn inability to assimilate the arguments, realizing that there will be a calm answer to every scream which is hard to refute, prefer to be quiet.
                And this, in my opinion, is a mean position.

                Let them try, it’s even interesting to me what they think, the next saviors of Russia in the form of a long-collapsed and useless monarchical project, such as the CCC (rifle witnesses sect)
                1. 0
                  18 March 2015 18: 40
                  Quote: vladkavkaz
                  either afraid, or because of an inborn inability to absorb arguments

                  Or maybe because of the inability to speak reasonably?
                  How is it _ It can be seen by the eyes, but can’t say? Here we do not see each other’s eyes, we see only assessments. Well, nobody canceled freedom of expression, even such a minimalist one.
                  Still chesslovo I do not understand your such explosive reaction to minuses, and to their health! There is a contact !
                  What about _
                  Quote: vladkavkaz
                  in the form of a long collapsed and useless monarchist project

                  I don’t remember, but one of the great said that _ There is no system better than a monarchy.
                  hi
                  1. 0
                    18 March 2015 18: 49
                    Cynic (3
                    Choose which one you like.)))
                    "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -Churchill
                    The political system is music, not mechanics. Author Vladimir Mikushevich Perfect government exists only in the country of ideas. Author Pierre Beil A certain degree of freedom is found in every state form, the highest degree - not in any. Author Friedrich Gentz ​​Under despotism, the lower classes sit on bunks, and under democracy, they sit on beans. Author Svetlana Khizhina Many different forms of government, many laws adopted under the pretext of the common good, in most nations have become only an instrument of people's misfortune. Author Claude Helvetius Every society is a system of spells. For the life of a state, what is important is not that it is monarchical, republican or aristocratic. It is important that political conventions are shared by most citizens. In morality, it’s not the norms that it puts forward that are useful, but the fact that it puts them forward. By Paul Valerie The best constitution for the people is the one to which they are accustomed. By Jeremiah Bentham With bad laws and good officials, it’s quite possible to rule the country. But if officials are bad, the best laws will not help. Author Otto von Bismarck You can keep up with any system. Author Vadim Kalmin The goal of democracy is freedom, oligarchy is wealth, aristocracy is education and legality, tyranny is protection. Author Aristotle It is necessary that the country should be governed by a selected circle of people who have proved their talent by the ability to obtain wealth. Author NN Of all forms of government, the rule of the mob is the most bloodthirsty, the rule of the soldiers is the most ruinous and the rule of the bourgeoisie is the most oppressive. Author Charles Coleb Colton The Republic needs virtue, monarchy - honor, despotic rule - fear; virtue is inappropriate here; honor would be dangerous. Author Wilhelm Fischer Monarchical rule is happier and more reliable than republican rule: it does not require extremes from citizens, and can rise to the degree of morality on which the republics fall. Author Nikolai Karamzin The structure of capitalism is based on possessive instincts, and not on moral ideals. Immorality is not dangerous to him. The idea of ​​socialism is based on moral ideals that must defeat possessive instincts. For socialism, immorality is fatal. Author Yevgeny Yevtushenko Public administration is similar to the skin of an animal, which only flows around the body but does not at all determine its structure. Author Anatole France
                    1. 0
                      18 March 2015 19: 46
                      Quote: vladkavkaz
                      Choose which one you like.)))

                      Socrates it was.
                      hi
                      1. -1
                        18 March 2015 21: 23
                        Cynic (
                        It doesn’t matter. Who is in the emperors? And if the emperor’s son is not friends with his head, then what?
                        And this is your accomplice of emperorism
                        Strelkov, in a conversation with Starikov, "debunks the myth" about the voluntary reunification of Crimea and the general voting in the referendum. It turns out that the representatives of the people were "FORCEDLY IMPOSED on the decision already made in the Russian upper circles".
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G04tXnvKx8Y
                        Need something? Something tells me that everything is completely rotten here.
          2. +1
            18 March 2015 19: 18
            The third paragraph, the first sentence, you probably left "not" by mistake.
            The figure of Strelkov (namely Strelkova and not Girkin) ... What kind of arrogant Saxons are you discussing here? Or maybe the task is a little easier!
        6. +2
          19 March 2015 10: 42
          I'll add more. I watched the video feed from this presentation. The article is of course a stripped-down version, but the meaning is correct. Girkin, said many things that were correct, but they were served under such a sauce that it seemed that they were calling for a revolution, and Girkin himself presented himself in no way less than the Emperor of All Russia. Something he starts to remind me more and more of Navalny. He also promoted himself a little, now all of himself is such a D'Artagnan, and all the other Papuans.
          1. +1
            19 March 2015 11: 45
            eaa59
            Was it in vain that at the time of his promotion, since the days of Slavyansk, he was served in the form of a kind of reincarnation of the mediocre Nikolashka? Or was he compared with other generals of that time?
            Therefore, they say that all this fuss around and around Strelkova is an attempt of the Maidan, from the quasi-patriotic side.
      3. +5
        18 March 2015 14: 34
        Even he oppresses "the wrong steppe!"
        1. avt
          +8
          18 March 2015 14: 53
          Quote: juborg
          Even he oppresses "the wrong steppe!"

          Have you just noticed? In general, he spoke in the same vein from Slavyansk. The campaign was still very much touched by the expulsion from Donbass, and a specific resentment against Zakharchenko and Kononov is visible. All of this looks a lot like the statements of a person with wounded pride and a hypertrophied opinion about the analyst's own abilities. He does not have that array of information for global conclusions about accepting or rejecting strategic moves of the Great Game. Here he turns on the reenactor. In vain it is he - the option, "I and the Emperor" I do not roll people of all sizes with GDP, but if he plays these "games of patriots", then he can easily end up not even like Kvachkov, but like Rokhlin. Despite the fact that it seems like they left the same office, but they diverge to the campaign in different directions.
        2. +1
          18 March 2015 14: 55
          Just do not need him to meddle in politics. In our country, all the military who went into politics did not finish very well.
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      4. +7
        18 March 2015 14: 39
        Quote: sibi
        Girkin takes on a lot.
        Isn't it time for him to go to Donbas again?

        In my opinion, it is enough to remember what always happened after his "whining" -
        - There has always been a grand schucher. Let's see what it is for.
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      6. +1
        18 March 2015 14: 53
        Girkin takes on a lot.
        Isn't it time for him to go to Donbas again?
        And to think about the fact that a person simply plays his role weakly?
      7. 0
        18 March 2015 15: 30
        Exactly, there was at least some benefit from him, at least the positive result of his activity was visible. I don’t understand how he, with his good general abilities (in my opinion), went to demagogues. His place in a war that did not stop.
      8. +4
        18 March 2015 16: 02
        In my opinion, he was simply offended that he was removed from the command of the Armed Forces of Novorosia. It is enough to read / watch his speeches - not a single good word in support of the current military in the Donbas, only criticism.
      9. +8
        18 March 2015 16: 08
        Strelkov carried away so much that the coast lost ... bully

        How can you compare Yugoslavia and Russia ... ??? There are many analogies, BUT SIZE MATTERS...!
        In the territory of RUSSIA both the USA and Western Europe will dissolve. Russia has a SNF, 18 800 tanks, SSBNs and strategic bombers.
        And most importantly, millions of 20 stock sergeants (made in the USSR).
        That they are now rihtuyut junta in the Donbass, almost without officers.
        If we are touched - everyone will feel sick and sick. But not for long ... angry

        So Putin’s fate is not threatened by Milosevic. Unless he himself arrives at any summit at the summit ... But the FSB agents must control this, so the hands of the sworn friends are short ..!

        PS We have suffered so much from amers and homegrown demos - only let me recoup FOR EVERYTHING.
        1. +2
          18 March 2015 18: 08
          The first is size. It can be divided into several small pseudo-states that will continuously fight with each other. The second is SYS. They can be turned off through betrayal, special missions and just confusion inside the unit. SSBNs and strategists ---- they are wrong a lot ---- you can decide with them at the parking lot. Third ----- reserve sergeants. Here you just need to wait for another - wait another and everyone will become old or sick ... Time will take its toll !!!! ... This everything is as an option of THEIR solutions. They always go when we are weak and always act from the inside --- this is the main style. Through whom ---- Kerinsky is a vivid example !!! He himself said that to restore order in the country one person needs to be removed ---- this is ME .... ((they say it was incredibly popular))
      10. -3
        18 March 2015 17: 28
        Strelkov merged for a long time.
      11. 0
        21 March 2015 17: 42
        Something Girkin has ceased to be attractive to me. A question to Donbass: why is Strelkov, "ready to be a private", not allowed to enter Donbass?
    2. +18
      18 March 2015 14: 23
      "Gagarin got there" ?! A person is not like you to speak about him like that!
      1. +2
        18 March 2015 15: 43
        When Gorbachev was younger, he also loved to change his fate and the state very abruptly, too, now he’s not at all young .... and admits, then he confided in vain ... divorced like a sucker ...
    3. +9
      18 March 2015 14: 24
      That's all, as Strelkov says. (
      1. +15
        18 March 2015 14: 31
        Quote: sluganska
        That's all, as Strelkov says. (

        He does not and cannot have the entirety of information. From his point of view, he is right, but he is not able to think strategically. Not by the fact that he is bad, just not because he is imprisoned. Everyone should do their own thing, Strelkov fight where they send, Putin to restrain the approaching war, as much as he can. Or maybe he is notable.
        1. +11
          18 March 2015 14: 45
          I generally think that Strelkov is a mishandled Cossack.
          Putin said specifically - Russia will not get involved in the war
          And what did Strelkov always do? Always called for war in Ukraine (with a noble sauce of course).
          The war is needed by the American defense industry.
          Now, for some reason, it says that Russia, according to the scenario of World War 1, will get involved in a modern war ... Why ???
          1. +5
            18 March 2015 16: 13
            Quote: KAMLS
            I generally think that Strelkov is a mishandled Cossack.

            It remains to answer one question: by whom?
            We look, Girkin fought in Transnistria, in Bosnia ... then appeared in Crimea, then in Slavyansk, battles, career, popular love ..... and sudden disappearance .....
            They explained everything by the fact that "someone" had recalled him from Novorossiya .., i.e. it turns out that the one who "recalled", he initially sent him there.
            And since Strelkov-Girkin is so "obedient", then he only says what these "someone" allows him.
          2. 0
            18 March 2015 21: 39
            Quote: KAMLS
            And what did Strelkov always do? Always called for war in Ukraine (with a noble sauce of course).
            The war is needed by the American defense industry.
            Now, for some reason, it says that Russia, according to the scenario of World War 1, will get involved in a modern war ... Why ???

            At how did you connect the American military-industrial complex and the war with Ukraine?
            And what kind of war could there be right after the Crimea, if Ukraine and the army didn’t have it?
            1. 0
              18 March 2015 22: 15
              Nayhas (
              And what connects the E-burg with the visits of various American zealots with the reading of anti-Russian lectures at the Ural Federal University, as well as a bunch of SSS along with Strelkov?
        2. +1
          18 March 2015 15: 04
          Well, finally, Strelkov gradually began to reach, otherwise everything was Surkov’s fault, and Putin wasn’t doing anything! To me, it was both funny and sad at the same time to read from such a person, they say a good king and bad boyars. Yes, there is a gradual discharge of New Russia, but it is hardly possible to finally merge it completely without the Russian consequences! As long as the Americans are confident that through the conflict on the outskirts, they can change the internal political situation in Russia, the war will continue! And they spat on all sorts of Minsk 1,2,3,4,5 and further on the list! And I am very sorry that he does not go into politics yet! In any election, he would have gained a decent percentage. No less than Lebed had at the beginning of his political career, in any case, he would become a real competitor for patriotic citizens.
          1. -1
            18 March 2015 15: 31
            The person does not "see the field" at all. He confused the territory, not the first century torn apart by national / religious contradictions, under the heel of mattress crap (accustomed to scoff at the weak) - and Great (and I am not ashamed of this word) Russia.
          2. Tartar
            +5
            18 March 2015 16: 40
            He was planned as a Swan - instead of Putin. As a temporary puppet, until Russia is ruined. He was sent to Donbass by Konstantin Malofeev (the billionaire, the largest minority shareholder of Rostelecom), with whom the arrow introduced Boroday. In turn, Malofeev is run by people from the anti-Putin wing of the government, and these find a common language with the mattress.
            It was planned that the shooter would imitate armed resistance in the Donbas, while the Armed Forces and national troops drive the population away from their place of residence, Putin does not introduce troops - his rating drops, the shooter dumps Russia with an armed detachment, a coup d'état in Russia is organized (against the background of a falling rating Putin), the shooter is elected president, then - the collapse of Russia.
            Fortunately, things didn’t go according to their plan.
            1. +1
              18 March 2015 17: 23
              Yes, you see it yourself from this team, you see it personally was present with these plans for the collapse of the country, since you know everything so well, or do you also get Old Dogs from social networks?
              1. -1
                18 March 2015 18: 31
                it seems that Strelkov developed a mild degree of schizophrenia based on monarchist-idioistic beliefs. After all, he himself said more than once that it is necessary to protect people, and not to get involved in politics, but no, he got in anyway. Now it is being used by the extreme right national "patriots" to undermine the political situation in the country.
            2. +1
              18 March 2015 18: 35
              Quote: TarTar
              shooter dumps in Russia with an armed detachment, organized a coup in Russia

              We watched the movie "State Border" - there bandits dressed in the uniform of the Red Army walked, they sang a song about Nikolai - the same ending would have been.
  2. Vezhchel
    -3
    18 March 2015 14: 17
    Did he hear about such structures as the FSB, FSO, etc.? crying
    1. +21
      18 March 2015 14: 25

      Quote: Vezhchel
      Did he hear about such structures as the FSB, FSO, etc.? crying

      Yes, he seems to be one of these structures. You can’t call illiterate. He always obeyed Putin, at all stages of his activity. Probably the time has come to remove the fifth column - the Hero of New Russia in my opinion about this.
      1. +3
        18 March 2015 14: 39
        In general, it seemed to me that the author of the article was himself from the fifth column. How to relate to this? -
        He himself, however, today in Yekaterinburg presented the movement, which also considers Russia as a resource base. “We are engaged in collecting assistance to the militia, assistance to the population, the wounded, we provide assistance in rehabilitation who need long-term rehabilitation treatment,” Strelkov said at the meeting, stressing that one of the main tasks is “to dress and put on 10-15 thousand volunteers” to start of the summer campaign. The fact that she will certainly be, he has no doubt.

        Highlighted copyright unkind opinion! The author does not approve of Strelkov’s activity in collecting aid from New Russia
        1. +4
          18 March 2015 15: 40
          The author would have posted a video from the conference. And then everything seems to be pulling out quotes from the text. Strelkov said that, and then ce. Yes, and Mercedes does not give rest - what is all this?) Well, I would have come on a penny - another thing would have been)))
          1. +3
            18 March 2015 17: 32
            Always said lay out concrete evidence ...

            I also want to see, recorded on video, Strelkov’s speech.

            And then you can write everything ... if there is what they write, so we see ...

            And no former merits will help, those who ... (I don’t know what to say until I see it).
          2. +1
            18 March 2015 18: 27
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Yes, and Mercedes does not give rest - why all this?)

            Also an indicator for me, I’m driving one on an S500 to a child’s kindergarten, and what of this, is this some kind of indicator?
      2. 0
        18 March 2015 14: 55
        The fact that there should not be any 5th column if the state wants to survive is understandable without Girkin.
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    2. +3
      18 March 2015 14: 28
      Did he hear about such structures as the FSB, FSO, etc.?
      As far as I heard, he worked there.
  3. -10
    18 March 2015 14: 20
    Shooter went to the liberals. It seemed like a decent person.
    1. jjj
      +8
      18 March 2015 14: 25
      No, this is not a liberal branch, but a pseudo-patriotic one. The slogans seem to be correct, pain for the state. And things are increasingly reminiscent of the tasks of the State Department. Use Strelkova to the fullest. But a month ago he approximately agreed to the point that he annexed Crimea to Russia
      1. +8
        18 March 2015 14: 45
        The slogans of our rulers are correct, then the current islands to China, Novorossiya Bandera, Norwegian territorial waters.
      2. +1
        18 March 2015 23: 52
        They rule both with Strelkov and with liberals from the same place, who through Strelkov are checking the stability of Russian society in practice. If earlier it was possible to refer to his resentment and thoughtlessness in state affairs, then after all his last statements and "going to the people" - this is already open sabotage. And this cannot be condoned further. Because now the forces behind it seem to be harmless, small in number and scattered (besides, some of them are in the shadows and do not advertise themselves), but when it comes down to it, they will float out of nowhere, like the Bolsheviks in their time, and a protest will join them. movement from all sides + all the might of the West. so that little will not seem to anyone. And everything goes to this. stop
    2. VAVAN
      -1
      18 March 2015 14: 27
      it’s more like a traitor, when he nearly failed to organize a front leash just because many refused to fulfill his crazy commands he was removed from there) it’s a pure provocateur and traitor .......
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    4. 0
      18 March 2015 17: 34
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Shooter went to the liberals. It seemed like a decent person.


      Always said lay out concrete evidence ...

      I want to see, recorded on video, the performance of Strelkov.

      And then you can write everything ... if there is what they write, so we see ...

      And no former merits will help, those who ... (I don’t know what to say until I see it).
  4. +7
    18 March 2015 14: 21
    Somewhere he went wrong.
    1. +3
      18 March 2015 14: 24
      Yeah. Lost, "but it seems not in the forest."
  5. +4
    18 March 2015 14: 21
    campaign with him is something wrong. What if the Cossack is mishandled?
    1. raf
      -2
      18 March 2015 15: 33
      Quote: Benya
      campaign with him is something wrong. What if the Cossack is mishandled?

      I don’t think he did too much good in his time! He just decided to "rush" into politics, and thus tries to gain political points for himself! So I understand all his "body movements" lately!
  6. +6
    18 March 2015 14: 22
    Something I was disappointed in Strelkov. There was a normal man, but then I became a liberal. Eh. crying
    Something all spring all sorts of exacerbations begin. I hope this is temporary.
    1. 0
      18 March 2015 14: 56
      Quote: WYCCTPUJIA
      Something I was disappointed in Strelkov. There was a normal man, but then I became a liberal. Eh. crying
      Something all spring all sorts of exacerbations begin. I hope this is temporary.


      It looks like a star fever. If smart, then it will pass.
  7. +5
    18 March 2015 14: 23
    Some say that Strelkov is against Putin.
    Some reiterate that Strelkov is for the DPR and LPR and thereby popularizes their regime and their demands for new humanitarian aid and military assistance.
    But no matter who says it, it’s stupid to drop these statements from accounts, because sanctions and external pressure are the same as they would be if in April 2014g. the Russian army would smash the Bandera APU to smithereens. This point is controversial, but has the right to life.
    1. +21
      18 March 2015 14: 34
      Let’s say in March - April, our troops went to Ukraine and disarmed the Armed Forces.
      What's next?
      You won’t change your brains for a week - a month.
      And in the end, we would be accused of aggression, the stench would be more at times than with the Crimea.
      DPR and LPR Russia does not recognize, as long as there is the possibility of leaving them in the aisles of Ukraine to block its entry into NATO.
      But if Ukraine still decides to join NATO, it will lose the entire south-south-fleece before joining.
      In the meantime, there is an opportunity to beat the west without much blood. Need to play. You can always have time to fight.
      Strelkov leaves no compromise, he has always been for one scenario, go to war, and "liberate" Ukraine.
      And what will happen next when he never thought.
      1. +3
        18 March 2015 15: 11
        Quote: arutun
        ... But if Ukraine still decides to join NATO ...

        NATA's charter says - "countries that have unresolved territorial disputes - do not accept."

        Not literally, essno, but in terms of meaning - exactly so.

        Which, by the way, proves that the extra problems of NATE - well in no way Not needed smile
      2. +1
        18 March 2015 15: 15
        Let’s say in March - April, our troops went to Ukraine and disarmed the Armed Forces.
        It would not even be necessary to disarm. Just a new minister, a new (old) president and continue to serve.
      3. +2
        18 March 2015 15: 18
        Correctly say, dear comrade! I agree in many ways.
        If Ukraine is in a state of internal conflict, it has been ordered to join NATO.
      4. +1
        18 March 2015 16: 28
        arutun-y
        Strelkov leaves no compromise, he has always been for one scenario, go to war, and "liberate" Ukraine.
        And what will happen next when he never thought.


        I'm afraid you are right. Strelkov reached the brigade, but to manage Russia or even Ukraine, a different level of awareness is needed.
        Ukraine, or rather the junta, will "devour" itself, but P will not get involved in an open conflict. Time and nature are working for Russia. The "friends" of the great uk ... are already scratching the cerebellum, what to do with the 40 million hungry and armed Oryasin who believed in the "fairy tales" of the EU and something there.

        I would not be very surprised if Rusyns in western Ukraine make Transnistria. And there is not far from the separation of the Black Sea from Kiev. And then - "Bobik is dead."
        Pity Bobik - not yet old, could still live. hi
  8. +12
    18 March 2015 14: 23
    Something is not right ... Apparently resentment leaped up. And now, in a new way, I recall an interview in my Purgin’s that he spoke about how Girkin sometimes hysteria ... It's a pity. That's what fame does to people. A comparison with Yugoslavia is so pearl ... in the last century, every self-respecting liberal annually talks about this. hi
    1. +4
      18 March 2015 15: 23
      The liberals (about the fate of Milosevic) speak of triumph of supreme justice, and Strelkov, apparently, that their former president had surrendered.
  9. +19
    18 March 2015 14: 23
    There is a great deal of truth in Strelkov's words. You cannot flirt with the West, you cannot diplomat with the Junta, you cannot give the Americans time to reflect on their failures. In the current situation, the issue can only be resolved by force, not snot with "partners". It is necessary to act toughly and decisively in relation to Ukraine and the West, led by the United States, along the way, toughly resolve issues with the liberal fifth column inside the country and the oversized economic Russian bloodsuckers.
    The question has already become unequivocal, and many ordinary people understand this not only in Russia, but also in Belarus - to be or not to be Russia, to live for the Slavic peoples with their heads held high or to become a raw materials appendage of the USA.
    1. +3
      18 March 2015 15: 25
      Quote: nord62
      You can't flirt with the West

      And where is flirting with the West? Obama will soon begin to chew ties, Europe is slowly starting to realize that she is being used bluntly ...

      Quote: nord62
      , can not be diplomatic with the junta

      Well, yes, well, yes .. it is necessary, like that Ukrainian minister, to sing - "Poroshenko ..

      In politics, in diplomacy - there are clear rules - what is decent and what is not. What the Russian Federation is now doing in relation to the junta is expressed by the proverb - "softly lay down, but hard to sleep." The junte is tough, in the sense))

      Quote: nord62
      , you can not give time for the Americans to understand their failures

      And no one gives them .. until one has comprehended - two have appeared. Forget about Ukraine - this is just a small section of the "front" global struggle.

      Quote: nord62
      ... Act must be tough and decisive in relation to Ukraine and the West, led by the United States

      Yeah .. with a chance (albeit small, but real) to get real already war ..

      Quote: nord62
      along the way, it’s just as tough to solve issues with the liberal fifth column inside the country and the presumptuous economic Russian bloodsuckers

      Yeah .. with a great chance to get another civil war this time .. Do you really think that such a redistribution of property will do without blood? In Ukraine, they also thought so ..

      Total: I am most impressed with the opinion of people indicating that those who are so radical about the situation (whether in Ukraine, in Russia, in the world) are just don't own (And can not own) enough information to judge a subject.

      You will not explain to the doctor which pills you need to prescribe? You won’t ..

      And "for politics" - here you are ... Strange, why would it be?
    2. 0
      18 March 2015 15: 35
      not only in Russia but also in Belarus

      In Ukraine too.
    3. +3
      18 March 2015 16: 38
      nord62-y
      To you (-).

      The most fragile is peace in one’s own country, and West P has shown what will happen to them if they jerk. Over the past six months, more than 100 thousand moved to 4,5 thousand km, not to mention technology and aviation. The West has understood everything.

      Still, "soft" power is a powerful thing for those who know how to use it. And not always a blow to the forehead means a solution to the problem. And what to do with "corpses" fool
  10. 0
    18 March 2015 14: 24
    Quote: Vezhchel
    Did he hear about such structures as the FSB, FSO, etc.? crying

    Yes, he seems to be one of these structures. You can’t call illiterate. He always obeyed Putin, at all stages of his activity. Probably the time has come to remove the fifth column - the Hero of New Russia in my opinion about this.
  11. +1
    18 March 2015 14: 24
    Ndaaa ... It seems that the Shooters got a little dirty. But respect was honest. I forgot that getting dirty is easy, but it's difficult to wash oneself. It's a pity...
  12. +5
    18 March 2015 14: 25
    Mr. Strelkov has very controversial statements. As if we would not have been pressed by sanctions if we had liberated Novorossiya "bloodlessly and quickly" in the spring of 2014. The analogy with WWI is inappropriate at all, so far in that war the citizens of the Russian Federation do not die en masse, we have no victims, and in general the scale is not the same. Just harnessing for Novorossia in full, with the introduction of troops - this is the right path to the WWI scenario, and it is not really clear how the residents of Novorossia would react at that time to the appearance of Russian troops and whether their attitude towards the Russian Federation changed after that.
    On the other hand, everything is accurate about the fifth column. There are forces that obviously do not allow Putin to unfold in full force. And the fact that in Novorossia during the hours of calm internal disassembly and Makhnovism begin, is also true.
  13. +5
    18 March 2015 14: 26
    He says the right thing, what makes Russian Novorossia worse than Russians in Crimea?
    1. +1
      18 March 2015 15: 00
      You can’t ask citizens such a question in order to answer it with a lot of language they have to grind and lie.
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    3. avt
      +4
      18 March 2015 15: 31
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      , than Russian Novorossia worse than Russian in the Crimea?

      Nothing.
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Right things say

      What exactly ? And it's too lazy to remember the agenda of the referendum in Crimea, which was generally held by the legitimate leadership of the Supreme Council of Crimea and the prime minister approved by Yanukovych, and to compare it with the agenda of the referendum in Donbass and Lugansk and who exactly held it? What people and who are chosen. Here's when to compare - come and talk. There was no LEGAL reason for the VVP to enter troops, which were standing on the border in readiness, to Donbass and Lugansk, well, the "regionals" and other trash who were sitting in regional meetings, as well as Kernes in Kharkov, did not give it. Crimea, this is pure aggression and full analysis with Russia, which is so passionately awaiting Parashenko and his Smoked owner and - lo and behold! A hero, a real hero of Slavyansk! Life and the Great Game, this is not a costume reconstruction. If Strelkov did not understand this, he never he will not be a politician and it is right that he was removed from the Donbass.
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      2. +3
        18 March 2015 15: 42
        As life has shown, this is "legal support" to all "civilized" countries to the light of the bulb. No one cares about
        legitimate leadership of the Supreme Council of Crimea and the prime minister approved by Yanukovych
        Nobody remembers anything about it now. And Yanukovych, too, was always violet to everyone.
        Obviously, the only reason why they took Crimea, and the rest were scared, is the geographical location of Crimea. The presence of an isthmus convenient for defense and movement control. All other causes are ordinary verbiage.
        1. avt
          +4
          18 March 2015 15: 53
          Quote: Heimdall48
          - This is "legal support" for all "civilized" countries to the light bulb.

          It would be, until the light bulb "the same USs would not strive to legitimize their actions as much as possible, and Russia is not the USSR, this is the USSR and the USA, and every now and then he handed out grievances to neighbors boldly." Today we have only one hail on a hill. ...
          Quote: Heimdall48
          and the rest were scared

          Naturally - the scenario of Crimea in Novorossia did not pass, well, nowhere since the meeting of deputies of the regional councils in Kharkov, with Yanukovych available, not a single decision has been made that allows Russian troops to block the APU in the manner of the Crimea. If you don’t understand the elementary things that the GDP voiced for you in the film — it’s trouble, and yours. And you don’t need to sing songs — prosralipolymers. The referendum in the Donbass didn’t envisage joining Russia, there weren’t even words about sovereign and the more so separation, only a kind of independence of the regions.
          1. 0
            18 March 2015 19: 42
            Is it not obvious now that all these fables about the decisions of the regional councils and regional executive committees did not help? They did not reach the target audience. And Churkin at the UN does not mention anything about the regional councils. If someone thought that these arguments would affect Obama and his friends, then this is an extreme degree of naivety.
            not a single decision was made allowing the Russian troops in the manner of the Crimea to block the APU
            .
            Is it possible that in the Crimea before the referendum, the regional council allowed the Russian troops to block and storm the Ukrainian units, and far from their own places of deployment? Well let's say so. Why, then, did our authorities stubbornly hide that it was the Russian troops that were storming and blocking — that’s absolutely legitimate. And that it was the Russian troops - it was a no brainer.
            The only weighty argument is the referendum. Why it passed in Donbass without mention of joining Russia is not a question at all. It is obvious that under the pressure of our "leaders" they simply removed this topic from the agenda. They already realized that they had gone too far. It is also obvious that the people going to the referendum in Donbass were absolutely put on the sovereignty of Novorossiya - they wanted to join Russia and counted on the Crimean scenario. But they were rudely thrown.
            elementary things about which for you in the film GDP announced

            Yes, believe the TV and what the GDP said there - this is generally the last thing. These comrades have a boneless language.
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  14. +7
    18 March 2015 14: 26
    You cannot immediately reject his point of view. We need a deep analysis of the current and possible future development of events, which, I am sure, the competent authorities are engaged in. Our president is not a d.u.a.k - he proved this to the whole world. But about the fifth columns still do not understand why they did not "flew" in disgrace from the country, or at least not removed from power!
    1. +1
      18 March 2015 14: 37
      Quote: chikenous59
      But about the fifth column, it is still not clear why they did not "flew" in disgrace from the country, or at least not be removed from power.

      And this respected comrade is called der * mokratia. But if the fifth column is removed, such a howl will rise that: "But how is that? Why? Putin staged repression." and so on, and the mattresses will start barking because of the puddles.
      1. +2
        18 March 2015 15: 32
        Quote: WYCCTPUJIA
        And this respected comrade is called der * mokratia. But if the fifth column is removed, such a howl will rise that: "But how is that? Why? Putin staged repression." and so on, and the mattresses will start barking because of the puddles.

        IMHO everything is a little worse.

        Behind this "column" - real money and other resources (like Kolomoisky in Ukraine, approximately).

        - hurt them sharply - get Donbass, only already in the Russian Federation.
        - push them slowly and systematically - it is necessary. And who told you that this already not done?
  15. +1
    18 March 2015 14: 27
    It is not given to understand Girkin-Strelkov how difficult it is to be PUTIN. And he will never be the President of the Russian Federation, thank God. Therefore, it constantly aches. Even when I was sitting in Sloviansk that there was no appeal, then ***** they all shit, there were no cartridges, no tanks, no guns.
    PS If you are so happy for Novorossia and you are collecting funds for the militias, then sell the gelding and ride on the viburnum, and of course, you won’t get a tank, of course, but you can buy it.
    1. +8
      18 March 2015 14: 44
      And, excuse me, did you personally verify that this gelding belongs to Strelkov? Or did you conclude this from the last paragraph of the article? He aches constantly, or does not ache, but he was in Slavyansk, and it was he who led the defense at first Slavyansk, then the DPR. Good or bad, bad - a separate issue, but he was there. And nobody forbids him to express his opinion about the situation, even if someone does not like it. Moreover, at his level he is right in many ways.
    2. +1
      18 March 2015 17: 38
      I want to see, recorded on video, the performance of Strelkov.

      And then you can write everything ... if there is something they write, so you see and hear ... or did someone decide to draw conclusions for us?

      And no former merits will help, those who ... (I don’t know what to say until I see it).
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  16. +6
    18 March 2015 14: 28
    Man. He sets out everything briefly and in the case.
  17. -2
    18 March 2015 14: 28
    it’s kind of muddy, sort of in the case, but the sediment is always alarming. patriot, it’s good, but it’s too general and it’s not clear who you will be, comrade. it worries when shoulder straps get into politics
  18. +4
    18 March 2015 14: 30
    Strelkov is right, I don’t know what fate awaits the president, but obviously not Milosevic, he turned it down. But the fact that the indecisiveness of the president’s actions in New Russia contributes to large population losses in the Donbass and Lugansk is a fact. I don’t know why Russia allows the Nazis to strengthen their forces, to receive weapons from the West, instructors? Or maybe there are some unknown thoughts from the leadership and then ,,,. We will wait for Victory Day and then maybe Kuev will end. You can never agree with the Nazis. Glory to the Novorossiysk militia. The Minsk agreements are good for the time being and the militias should be given weapons to fight the Nazis.
  19. +8
    18 March 2015 14: 30
    Nothing new.
    As usual: everyone believes that he is well versed in football and in politics.
  20. +4
    18 March 2015 14: 30
    Citizens do not understand you, then shooter hero, then girkin!
    1. 0
      18 March 2015 15: 40
      Why not understand? Girkin is a real name, Strelkov is a pseudonym. What does a hero, not a hero?
      "Igor Ivanovich Strelkov (real name Igor Vsevolodovich Girkin); (December 17, 1970, Moscow - a military leader of the unrecognized Donetsk People's Republic (DPR)".
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  21. -4
    18 March 2015 14: 31
    Politics and prostitution go together, sold out ... a very modest person, rides a Cossack and criticizes ... with this person it is clear and there is nothing to discuss here ...
    1. 0
      18 March 2015 17: 41
      I want to see, recorded on video, the performance of Strelkov.

      And then you can write everything ... if there is something they write, so you see and hear ... or did someone decide to draw conclusions for us?

      And no former merits will help, those who ... (I don’t know what to say until I see it).
  22. 0
    18 March 2015 14: 32
    Nothing is clear, we must wait to draw conclusions ... what
  23. +5
    18 March 2015 14: 33
    Strelkova needs to be heeded. This is not a hollow type of Kasparov and has nothing to do with the fifth column. I think his rebuke towards Putin V.V. fair if you protect the Russians then everywhere or be silent for the sake of lifting the sanctions.
    The question is: will our sanctions be lifted on August 6 (exactly one year) and ruined the peasants who have just begun to rise from their knees? So let's look at "our" world?
    1. +6
      18 March 2015 14: 45
      Quote: Mercenary
      This is not a hollow type of Kasparov and has nothing to do with the fifth column.

      Firstly, it becomes a hollow-neck (and worse than Kasparov),
      secondly - what do you think is the 5th column? Undermining the authority of the country, the President, the swaying of the situation - this is the 5th column,
      in the third - Strelkov "soldier" (in a good sense of the word), and the politician and leader is not important. And there is no Oracle at all!
  24. +3
    18 March 2015 14: 33
    This is yeah! One day he hinted that something was wrong with Strelkov. Well, I did not believe and I do not believe him. So the ogreb in full (and cons and comments, though not on this resource). And here you are. What is happening then? Damn it, why, not only are they coming to us, they are also trying to teach us. They say they know how to get it and fix it. And about Putin, it’s in vain, not that level. He is up to our president as before .... or rather, nothing at all. Shooters came to us Shooters? I don’t see another, it’s right, we are calmer. But this is why students need to endure the brain. And already a photo against the backdrop of the king, a direct metaphor.
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    2. -3
      18 March 2015 14: 40
      He is up to our president as before ...., or rather, nothing at all

      And what did our president do so heroically to equal Strelkov - can Stalingrad defend alone?
      1. +7
        18 March 2015 15: 05
        Quote: Heimdall48
        And what is so heroic that our president did


        If you live in Russia, and do not cover your Nick with its flag, you should have noticed the difference between Yeltsin’s Russia and Putin’s Russia ... And this is not even subject to discussion ...
        1. -1
          18 March 2015 15: 17
          Objectively, I see the great positive merits of GDP. Objectively, I see considerable disadvantages of his work. Revolutionary breakthroughs are not visible. Crimea attached - well done. But here the merit is, mainly, of such indifferent citizens like Strelkov, Aksenov, who the masses have muddied. If they weren’t, they would sail further downstream.
          Nobody needs to lick your ass, the main thing is that the president is an ordinary hired employee - neither a king nor a secretary general.
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    3. +2
      18 March 2015 16: 25
      Quote: Averias
      Averias Today, 14: 33
      This is yeah! One day he hinted that something was wrong with Strelkov. Well, I did not believe and I do not believe him. So the ogreb in full (and cons and comments, though not on this resource). And here you are. What is happening then? Damn it, why, not only are they coming to us, they are also trying to teach us. They say they know how to get it and fix it. And about Putin, it’s in vain, not that level. He is up to our president as before .... or rather, nothing at all. Shooters came to us Shooters? I don’t see another, it’s right, we are calmer. But this is why students need to endure the brain. And already a photo against the backdrop of the king, a direct metaphor.

      Same thing with me. Forgive the sectarians hi
  25. -4
    18 March 2015 14: 33
    Everything is so far-fetched that the GDP can be compared with the fate of Ivan the Terrible.
    p / s / a gelding is not hilinky. Yes, and in Slavyansk on a range rover drove.
    1. -1
      18 March 2015 17: 44
      Actually, the article should have posted a video of Strelkov’s speech ...

      And then you can write everything ... if there is something they write, so you see and hear ... or did someone decide to draw conclusions for us?

      And no former merits will help, those who ... (I don’t know what to say until I see it).
  26. +3
    18 March 2015 14: 35
    What does he do at all? Arakul and the soothsayer. There are simply no words! What happened to him ...?
    As usual: everyone believes that he is well versed in football and in politics.

    Well yes! More in beer and women!
  27. +1
    18 March 2015 14: 40
    Quote: Uncle
    Quote: sluganska
    That's all, as Strelkov says. (

    He does not and cannot have the entirety of information. From his point of view, he is right, but he is not able to think strategically. Not by the fact that he is bad, just not because he is imprisoned. Everyone should do their own thing, Strelkov fight where they send, Putin to restrain the approaching war, as much as he can. Or maybe he is notable.

    I beg to differ. To find out how and what is there on the exercises in the Air Defense Forces, I "call" .... to Krasnodar. Don't forget about his rank and connections. Maybe he doesn't know the undercover diplomatic fuss, but all these moments about which he speaks, it seems to me that they are.
  28. +4
    18 March 2015 14: 40
    How many people have so many opinions, and history will judge who was right, who was to blame.
  29. +6
    18 March 2015 14: 41
    Actually, the GDP never hid that Donetsk and Lugansk region for him, this is the territory of Ukraine and there can be no talk about the inclusion of these entities in the Russian Federation. Which was enshrined in the Minsk agreements.
    Another thing is that no matter how unpleasant it may sound, the Donetsk and Lugansk regions are destined for the fate of such "sick calluses" on the body of Ukraine, which Russia can put pressure on at any moment, i.e. raise the question of the self-determination of these subjects or their entry into the Russian Federation, if the Ukrainian leadership begins to "behave badly". The same strategy has been worked out for Georgia with its frozen conflict over South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The same situation already exists in Moldova with its Transnistria. The same strategy will be worked out in relation to any country of the former USSR bordering on the Russian Federation, being in the sphere of interests of the Russian Federation and pursuing an unfriendly or militant policy towards the Russian Federation.
    1. strong man
      +2
      18 March 2015 15: 52
      Maybe I'm a naive person, but even the thought that VVP and Russia will use Donetsk and Lugansk as "sore corns" and bleeding wounds is disgusting to me, thereby weakening and undermining the situation in Ukraine, I want to believe that Russia is a friend, an ally, and the support of those people in Novorossiya who are not sparing their lives fighting fascism, Bandera gangs, murderers with oligarchs with all the terror that the junta brought with it! I believe that Russia is fighting for all of Ukraine, because no matter what, most of the people there see in Russia a friend of an ally brother, despite the rabid zombie propaganda! And as for Igor Ivanovich, he earned his "Shoulder straps and awards" in real battles under bullets and shells, fighting and winning for several months with an enemy who outnumbered his squad by many tens of times in technique and number! And in general, he says the right things and draws competent analogies! You can agree with him or not, but insult him or call him no one dares to be a provocateur!
      1. +1
        18 March 2015 16: 28
        Pity, this is the last thing any politician is guided by.
      2. 0
        18 March 2015 16: 41
        Personally, I have nothing against Strelkov.
    2. +1
      18 March 2015 16: 04
      [quote = chebman] Donetsk and Lugansk regions are destined for the fate of such "sore corns" on the body of Ukraine, which Russia can put pressure on at any moment, ie raise the question of the self-determination of these subjects or their entry into the Russian Federation, if the Ukrainian leadership begins to "behave badly". The same strategy has been worked out for Georgia with its frozen conflict over South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The same situation already exists in Moldova with its Transnistria.
      It looks like you are very right.
      But at the expense of "The same strategy will be worked out in relation to any country of the former USSR, bordering on the Russian Federation, which is in the sphere of interests of the Russian Federation and pursues an unfriendly or militant policy towards the Russian Federation", is it not too early to guess (even minus the Baltic countries). Wait and see!
    3. avt
      +1
      18 March 2015 17: 41
      Quote: chebman
      Actually, the GDP never hid that Donetsk and Lugansk region for him, this is the territory of Ukraine and there can be no talk about the inclusion of these entities in the Russian Federation. Which was enshrined in the Minsk agreements.

      “Good nonsense,” if you please bear! VVP PUBLICALLY, on TV, in the wake of success in Crimea, voiced almost literally - do not forget that the territories in the South East are the former New Russia of the empire. But ALL gangways of LEGAL structures, starting with the Kharkiv meeting of deputies of regional councils even in the presence of Yanukovych in Kharkiv, ending with the rally under Akhmetov's pftronate of the remnants of the regionals "in Donetsk, LET the project" Novorossiya ", singing about" United Ukraine "and thereby supported the Kiev junta and cut off the opportunity for Putin LEGITIMO, in the manner of Crimea, to introduce Russian troops standing in readiness at the border. The people in the East were betrayed by the "regionals" and the Simonenkovskie KPUs who crap for their skins, the latter are scum who, by their very presence at the meeting, are happy to create a quorum and allow the bloody pastor to become a prezik and, naturally, the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which he took advantage of and unleashed the massacre .And the Minsk agreements did not give Moses a tablet from God.
  30. +5
    18 March 2015 14: 41
    It looks like it's time to transfer Strelkov from the "national hero" to the "5th column"! The less they talk about him, the more he wants to attract attention to himself. And at any cost! And how many disadvantages to the critics of Strelkov immediately appeared.
    1. -1
      18 March 2015 17: 46
      Post a video presentation Strelkova.

      And then you can write everything ... if there is something they write, so you see and hear ... or did someone decide to draw conclusions for us?

      And no former merits will help, those who ... (I don’t know what to say until I see it).
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  31. -1
    18 March 2015 14: 41
    Quote: Alex_59
    Just harnessing for Novorossia in full, with the introduction of troops - this is the right way to the WWII scenario.


    And this is how to furnish the "harness"! It is also possible that the whole world - and Russia is a must! - they will applaud! ...
  32. +5
    18 March 2015 14: 45
    Reflections on the fifth column are true.
  33. -2
    18 March 2015 14: 45
    festooned. It's time for him to return, to fight, and not pi ... (lectures to read)
  34. +5
    18 March 2015 14: 46
    I muddied the massacre in the Donbass. I wanted a quick victory. I wanted the winner’s laurels. He wanted to drag Russia into the war. And now he is furious and crawls there where it is not necessary. Competent officers, especially the FSB, do not. If you analyze his actions, all sorts of thoughts climb into your head.
    1. 0
      18 March 2015 21: 18
      Quote: non-Russian
      Non-Russian Today, 14: 46
      I muddied the massacre in the Donbass. I wanted a quick victory. I wanted the winner’s laurels. He wanted to drag Russia into the war. And now he is furious and crawls there where it is not necessary. Competent officers, especially the FSB, do not. If you analyze his actions, all sorts of thoughts climb into your head.

      With him, the topic is generally muddy.
  35. +1
    18 March 2015 14: 46
    I muddied the massacre in the Donbass. I wanted a quick victory. I wanted the winner’s laurels. He wanted to drag Russia into the war. And now he is furious and crawls there where it is not necessary. Competent officers, especially the FSB, do not. If you analyze his actions, all sorts of thoughts climb into your head.
  36. +4
    18 March 2015 14: 48
    On VO there was an article about the shaking of Russia, unfortunately I do not remember the author, in fact it turned out to be a prophetic article. The meaning of the article is that if Russia is not blown up with the help of the liberals, they will try to blow it up with the help of the so-called "patriots." Apparently, Strelkov forgot when he suggested leaving Donetsk and withdrawing troops to Russian territory, so he was asked. Guys, read the interview of the former prime minister of the DPR, and everything will fall into place.
  37. +4
    18 March 2015 14: 48
    I think that Strelkov is in many ways right. Here is the opinion of a resident of Donbass found on the network, it allows us to understand what they now feel and what they hoped for.
    Letter from one of the residents of New Russia

    Today I saw on the Internet an announcement for a film about the return of Crimea to Russia. And you know, I suddenly suddenly became unbearably offensive and even disgusting. But this is not because I am a supporter of the “theory of the Ukrainian Crimea”, but for a number of other reasons.

    Recalling the events a year ago, I can say that the Donbass was incredibly glad that the fulfillment of what the people of Crimea dreamed of. Then a lot was said about the Russian world, about fraternity, about the right of peoples to self-determination, that they did not abandon their own. Probably, against this wave (and against the background of Ukrainian lawlessness in Slavyansk), the people of Donbass responded to the calls of the Russian Spring and, when a referendum was announced, the majority of the population of the DPR and LPR supported the independence of our republics from Ukraine. In my city (and I live in Gorlovka) that day reigned the atmosphere of a real holiday, the birth of something new and great. And in the air everything still hung: Russian world, fraternity, we don’t leave our own ...

    Then, in May of last year, they talked about the referendum, independence, and Novorosia on the streets. About what this New Russia will be: independent, within the Russian Federation, or autonomy within Ukraine (by the way, no one wanted this anymore, since no one would have forgiven people for being killed in Slavyansk). But no matter what the status of Novorosia was, only one thing was clear - this is the closest connection with Russia (economic and cultural), we knew that soon this nightmare in Slavyansk would end and Russia would protect us. Because, by and large, there is no one else, and because "the Russians do not abandon their people in the war." And around everyone was talking about the Russian world, the fraternity, which, they say, do not abandon our own and will not allow us to kill the Russians ...

    Now, Donetsk and Horlivka are on fire ... And the farther, the more clearly we realized that either we are some kind of wrong Russians, or it's all a lie that “the Russians don’t leave their own in the war. And the slogan about the Russian world, about brotherhood, is already quieter. “We express our concern ... A humanitarian disaster ... We respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine ...” In general, Russia does not need the Donbass, and no one has ever thought of joining the Donbass to the Russian Federation or recognizing its independence. And no one recalls the right of peoples to self-determination ???
  38. +4
    18 March 2015 14: 50
    Do you want to minus but ... After all, he reasoned logically
    1. +4
      18 March 2015 15: 31
      I would not want such logic !!!!
      1. -1
        18 March 2015 17: 48
        To talk about some kind of logic or not logic, we need to lay out Strelkov’s speech.

        And then you can write everything ... if there is something they write, so you see and hear ... or did someone decide to draw conclusions for us?

        And no former merits will help, those who ... (I don’t know what to say until I see it).
  39. +8
    18 March 2015 14: 50
    Continued ..
    Now in the air, conversations about fraternity soar less and less, and no one already believes in them.
    Why am I now offended when I see the jubilant Crimea? Yes, probably because everything started about the same with us. The same calls sounded, the same slogans, and the results, alas, are different. Because, apparently, the Crimeans are Russians, but we are not (we are now unclear who), their referendum is correct, but ours is not. “Polite people” were found to protect Crimea, but not for us (well, of course, with the exception of volunteers in the militia). So maybe it wasn’t necessary to operate with such high categories as the Russian world, fraternity, we don’t leave our own .... Maybe it should have been said right away that Crimea plays an important military-strategic importance for Russia, and Donbass, alas, no. Maybe then we would not be so hurt and painfully hurt?
    What I just wrote is not only my opinion. This is evidenced by people at stops, in transport, in line at the supermarket, grandmothers on benches at the entrance. We found ourselves in an absolutely stupid situation: Ukraine is systematically destroying us, Russia is denying us from us, and special care for people from the authorities of the republic has also not been noticed. And if it were not for war and not life in constant fear, all these insults might not have been so acutely perceived and experienced. But as soon as there is hope that the front line is about to depart from us, a treacherous truce sets in.
    In the fall, my family and I had a chance to wander around the Crimea and mainland Russia. All that I learned from communicating with the people there is that we should be infinitely grateful for accepting refugees and for convoys with humanitarian aid (by the way, no one saw humanitarian aid in Gorlovka) and that we ourselves are to blame for the existing situation. After my father was denied medical care in Simferopol, I finally realized that for me there is no longer a fraternity.
    Now in the Donbass people live in fear and, for the most part, in poverty. They have not received pensions since the summer, many are not paid wages, many simply lost their jobs. Not enough medicine, the prices are sky-high. Everything seemed to have died out and stood still in anticipation of what the next truce would turn out for us. Against this background, it is insulting and disgusting to look at the jubilant Crimea. Not because we are jealous and angry, but because everything started in our country is very similar, and the consequences are so different. Because the Russian world and brotherhood, as it turned out, is not for everyone.

    And once again we return a year ago: “... If we see that this chaos begins in the eastern regions, if people ask us for help, and we already have an official appeal from the current legitimate president, then we reserve the right to use all available us means to protect these citizens ... "V.V. Putin 4.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX

    Olga, Gorlovka
    1. -1
      18 March 2015 17: 38
      The indignation of a "resident" of Novorossiya (Olga from Gorlovka) looks more like a provocation than the words of a sane person. Words by V.V. Putin from 4.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX, taken out of context, so they sound like an obligation to introduce Russian troops into Ukraine. He said "So far there is no such need (the introduction of troops - ed.), But there is such a possibility." How many people have voted for secession from Ukraine in the DPR and LPR? Most! So defend your homeland. And what we saw on TV, some with bags to Russia (now they live and work in Russia), while others go to barbecues (everyone saw footage when the lady was indignant - “We went to barbecue, and they began to fire at us.” People, you have a war, and you are on vacation? Let Russia fight for us, and we will wait, we are one RUSSIAN WORLD! Those adult men who lived in Donbas and volunteers were enough not only to protect Novorossiya, but also to properly break the Armed Forces of Ukraine and various SS But not everyone wants to fight for their LAND (it’s better to sit out where they don’t shoot, and then return home (I write with a small letter, because some treat it like that)). So, in Crimea there was one situation (our military bases), and in Donbass the situation is different (our bases were not.) Therefore, Russia (or V.V. Putin) should not be accused of something, Russia is not an aggressor.
  40. +4
    18 March 2015 14: 51
    It’s hard to always read Strelkova, constantly some kind of sediment is not good at heart ... It seems that the man is normal and generally says something about the case, but something is always wrong (between words ..) And against the background of the Mears, they took a picture and laid it out for a reason ... The conclusion is one anti-shooting article! There is an internal struggle and not frail ..
    1. +1
      18 March 2015 15: 53
      I agree 100%. Quotations in pieces and even a few, but more author's retelling. Yes, and it would be nice to take a picture of the gelding, otherwise they emphasized and dragged the wife.
    2. +4
      18 March 2015 16: 38
      There is not a word about Strelkov in the film about Crimea! And he was not the last figure there and clearly did more than motorcyclists. Conclusion: "Worthless" has become, is not profitable, publishes ideas outside the developed concept. If Shooters say "wrong" things, then what are "correct"? Here is a question!
  41. +2
    18 March 2015 14: 51
    I talked with friends living in Odessa, Nikolaev and Kherson regions. They say that if Russia had carried out an operation in Novorossia like in Crimea in the spring of 14, they would have greeted us there as liberators, and now, after the coffins and Ukrop propaganda, not everything is so simple. Anger, hatred and envy filled the souls of the majority of local residents, and now we need a few more "Debaltsevo boilers" for sobering up. Therefore, I partly agree with Strelkov.
  42. -3
    18 March 2015 14: 53
    Something Strelkov recently began to bend the wrong stick and in the wrong direction! No matter how this stick breaks out and does not crack on the forehead!
    I think V.V.P. no less than Girkin-Strelkov knows history! Oh, it would be better if he further controlled the troops and did not go into politics!
    1. +4
      18 March 2015 15: 21
      Quote: maxxdesign
      Something Strelkov recently began to bend the wrong stick and in the wrong direction! No matter how this stick breaks out and does not crack on the forehead!
      I think V.V.P. no less than Girkin-Strelkov knows history! Oh, it would be better if he further controlled the troops and did not go into politics!

      Why? Did not see in the words Strelkova urya-patriotism? And didn’t you see the calls to throw all their caps too? Actually what we have now at the moment. At the moment, we still have the frozen conflict and the uncertain prospects of the LNN and the DPR. Moreover, the prospects for solving this Gordian knot are also not visible. As pills, one can only note the defeat at Debaltseve and Ilovaisk. However, for the locals who died in these settlements, I think this is a Pyrrhic victory at least.
  43. 0
    18 March 2015 14: 58
    On the account of the new world war, let’s say that Stalin thought to the last that Hitler was an ally, that he had pulled his troops off our borders, so that the British thought that he was going to attack the USSR, and in fact, that they would train away from the British bombing. And Stalin thought that everything was going according to his plan, and that he outwitted Hitler, while he was wasting military forces in the west, he would, Stalin, have carried out military reform and rearm the army ... but did not have time! The rest everyone knows how it ended!
  44. 0
    18 March 2015 15: 00
    Recently, an interview was published at the VO with Boroday, where he talked about Strelkov. After reading, doubts crept in me about the sincerity of the former Minister of Defense of the DPR. This article of doubt dispelled - Boroday was right!
  45. +8
    18 March 2015 15: 01
    Unlike some, he did not change his beliefs and statements on the crossing, for which I respect. Time will judge. When he walked under bullets, many glorified him as Strelkov, but as he got to the rear, he immediately became Girkin - "now we are heroes?"
    May God grant Igor Ivanovich health and strength!
    1. +1
      18 March 2015 16: 52
      Quote: monk
      When he walked under bullets, many glorified him as Strelkov, but as he got to the rear, he immediately became Girkin - "now we are heroes?"


      We have been talking about this for an hour ....
      Strelkov is a great warrior, but a bad politician.
  46. +4
    18 March 2015 15: 05
    Another option, according to Strelkov, which awaits Putin, is the end of Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic, who died in 2006 in a prison in The Hague.
    If you surround yourself with a liberal traitor, then a scenario is possible.
  47. -2
    18 March 2015 15: 05
    Shooters are not politicians, but just a participant in military clashes in hot spots, especially in Yugoslavia. And on this experience to make some kind of political forecast on his part, is simply short-sighted stupidity.
    1. +1
      18 March 2015 15: 55
      A person has the right to his own opinion - here there are a lot of such forecasters and no one really protests.
  48. +3
    18 March 2015 15: 12
    Russia missed its chance to stop the bloodshed at the height of the confrontation, which led to numerous and unjustified victims. Even then it was clear that they would not leave us behind, and this war would be for a long time. Comprehensive military exercises are being held today, this is undoubtedly the right step, that is how you can prove your strength to the enemy and stop the aggression. There is no smoke without fire, but fire flares up, the enemy compresses our territory into a ring. Now, no peace negotiations will help us, it is necessary to act tough and decisively. Regarding Ukraine, I will say this - there should not be a second Yugoslavia!
  49. 0
    18 March 2015 15: 13
    It’s easy to give advice ... After the Crimea, it’s such a hysteria, sanctions, but what would happen if the troops entered the Donbass? And how is Russia now after Crimea? Ask ordinary people in the outback.
    Why do predictions for the president? Especially to a person who himself did not finish his job
    1. +3
      18 March 2015 15: 23
      in the hinterland, it’s very difficult for ordinary people ... reduction, no work, prices are rising! There is a general impoverishment of the people !!!
  50. +2
    18 March 2015 15: 15
    Girkin is certainly a patriot, definitely. But not everything is so simple, and I think Putin understands this, analyzes it, he has someone to rely on. But there is some truth to this. Now Vladimir Vladimirovich has a peak of people's trust, and all opponents have also shown themselves, plus the shadow environment, which is more difficult to identify, is the enemy. We need that line so that the people do not lose confidence in the president, but in the environment to identify and clean the enemies. Well, in the international arena it is impossible to concede, the Russian people will not understand this. This is worse than the crisis. Once he said that he would not leave the Russians, probably there is no other way. May God grant good luck and the Russian spirit to our president, diplomatic talent and love for his people. With our people and God's help, we will either die and carry away or defeat all with us. We don’t want war, but we won’t let us bow our banners. We are for world peace, but peace is fair.
  51. dmb
    +4
    18 March 2015 15: 18
    Everything is expected. Strelkov is a naive idealist, like most of the Donetsk people who fought, as well as commentators. Well, who else doesn’t understand that everything that was done concerned the people of Novorossiya and Russia in the last place. And this was an elementary struggle of capitalist predators for the redistribution of spheres of influence. Why should the mines no longer belong to Akhmetov? Or were the Luzhkov vineyards in Crimea returned to those who planted them?
  52. +1
    18 March 2015 15: 19
    Strelkov was a good warrior and nothing more. Thanks to him for the military actions near Slavyansk in the defense of Donbass. Here he showed himself to be a good leader, although due to his ambitions he did not quite get along with the leaders of Donbass. And that’s it, Strelkov ended, a dissatisfied whiner appeared. It is not for him to judge the leadership of the Republic of Novorossiya while sitting in Russia.
    1. +2
      18 March 2015 15: 57
      Well, the humanitarian is also not bad. Judging by the reports on their website.
  53. 0
    18 March 2015 15: 24
    Our strength lies in self-organization, and this apparently reaches some: Instruction to I.V. Plotnitsky from the Territorial Community of Krasnodon http://derzhava.today/poruchenie-plotnickomu-ot-ter-obschiny/. For not God, not the king and not the hero will save us. Not only literacy is necessary, but also education.
  54. Rubmolot
    +4
    18 March 2015 15: 25
    Pan Strelkov, I am sure that you perfectly understand what the entire “West” has been striving for for more than a year. It seems to me that Russia today is not in a state of war. But according to you, Putin is responsible for what is happening in Ukraine, for the deaths of thousands of people. Kind of weird or not? And the USA has nothing to do with it again...
    It’s been a long time since I’ve heard this tale you’re repeating again, but so far mostly from the Western direction. And now from you, like the “defender” of Novorossiya. Can you name the sources of equipment and assistance to resist the Ukrainian junta at the beginning?
    Show me your T-shirt, who are you really playing?!
    Where do you work now?
    What do you do?
    Where did you get the money for your political initiatives?
    Who finances you?
    If you want to save Novorossia, then why are you sitting in Russia?
    Organize affairs in/in Ukraine, what does Russia have to do with it?

    I remember the "international assistance" of the USSR in 1968. Czechoslovakia. The historical result of this assistance? Until now, part of the population, precisely because of this “help,” hates not Ukrainians, not Hungarians, not Poles, not Ruminovs, not Bulgarians, not Belarusians, not Germans, but Russians (even though all these nations with tanks were ready to “help”).

    Is Novorossiya being reborn within Ukraine? Then come on, contact the population in eastern Ukraine and only ask for financial assistance from those who are ready. Otherwise, the historical “invasion of USSR troops into Czechoslovakia” will be repeated - the next “aggression” of the Russians.
  55. +1
    18 March 2015 15: 25
    Girkin, you take on too much. There was Strelkov, he did something useful, but now he’s screwed up. It’s not with your frail mind to analyze Putin’s actions, you only think about your own ass, and he thinks about the whole country.
  56. +1
    18 March 2015 15: 28
    Why did they attack Strelkov? Where did he lie?
    1. +3
      18 March 2015 15: 41
      Where did he tell the truth? I made a brief analysis of the events in which I myself participated at the initial stage, when I was just a volunteer, from my mundane bell tower. An attempt to think about the fate of Russia and Novorossiya from the point of view of a petty official, not understanding anything in the geopolitical situation and calling for secretly or openly to go to war with the dill, without thinking about the consequences for Russia, this is not his concern. Helping the militias is his current lot, but it’s better to take a machine gun and go fight as an ordinary soldier.
      1. 0
        18 March 2015 16: 15
        He told the truth everywhere. And precisely from the point of view of geopolitics. These are all sorts of talk shows, experts and the fifth column broadcasting from the point of view of emotions. Like, how can it be, they are “brothers” to all of us, and we sent them forward to Europe with their bare ass. They may be brothers, but the state of Ukraine is a consistent and dangerous enemy. And if Russia had acted differently, the consequences could have been tragic. You can figure it out for yourself. There will be no stability there. In an amicable way, it was necessary to annex the entire left bank of the Dnieper. And the one-step-forward-two-steps-back policy is vicious. In the eyes of the Western and American establishment, Russia will still not become better; the sanctions will not be lifted. At least they, in addition to the east of Ukraine and Crimea, will also give them their land, and also gas and oil for free.
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  57. +2
    18 March 2015 15: 31
    Well, where does it take him??
    Disappointment.
  58. +1
    18 March 2015 15: 33
    Lately, Strelkov has been behaving somewhat ambiguously, and he also speaks out in the same way. Of course, he is a hero of the defense of Slavyansk and all that, but at one time Vlasov was also a hero, everyone knows how he ended...
  59. +1
    18 March 2015 15: 35
    I hope he arrived in that gray car, and not on a gelding. On the picture.
    Otherwise, the rims of this gelding alone cost about 4 thousand euros. It's like that...
  60. +1
    18 March 2015 15: 37
    We merged the Serbs when Russia was "Yeltsin's", they were weak, they helped with volunteers and humanitarian aid, here we seem to have become stronger, but also "Humanitarian - volunteers". Putin does not feel Russia is ready for a “big war” (I am convinced that there will be one) because the lack of economic security has clearly been revealed. And forgive the coloring of the war in Ukraine, no matter what anyone says, we are one people, not brothers!!! but a single people, ethnically united. And those uneducated people who talk about the “Russian World” go to the library and have a genetic analysis with the so-called “Ukrainians”. Regarding Novorossiya ---- Another conflict based on supposed “ethnic differences”. They are raising the same Slavs against us Slavs, and if we create Novorossiya, this will be the destruction of “Ukraine” as a state and constant hostility for all eternity. Strelkov wants --- Kharkov, Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev, etc. this means a continuation of the war, which means a continuation of bloodshed, an increase in mutual hatred... For now, Europe is playing for time as much as possible (not wanting to send in its troops) because it is necessary to bring the ordinary Russian citizen to a state of rebellion against the authorities (economically, informationally), and I don’t I know why, but it seems to me that all the pandemonium is just to overthrow Putin, who did not make concessions and did not “bend in” even after the Kursk was sunk. You have already made enough shooters, the mechanism is running, people are fighting, blood and tears are flowing. And there should be a revolution in Ukraine as a whole, and not a new Russia, but simply a revolution in Ukraine as in 1917. And Putin needs this! And not to observe bloodshed at the border year after year, and the revolution in Ukraine is a guarantee that the Crimea will not be attacked, although if it weren’t for the DPR and LPR, this would have been the case, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were concentrated there.
  61. skurchaev
    -4
    18 March 2015 15: 38
    Gentlemen, liberal scribblers and other sofa riffraff! Strelkov is right and it is not for you to discuss and judge him. Here he is a patriot of his Fatherland. And who are you? And what is your name?
    1. +3
      18 March 2015 15: 50
      What's your name? Who are you? And why did they suddenly decide that Strelkov is the ultimate truth? Patriot you say? May be I do not know. But there is a saying: the road to hell is paved with good intentions...
  62. +3
    18 March 2015 15: 41
    Dear forum members, Igor Vsevolodovich Girkin! (Strelkov) whether we want it or not... has already gone down in the history of Novorossiya... then time will put everything in its place... who betrayed whom, who set up whom... who bargained for what ...not everyone can withstand FIRE...WATER...and COPPER PIPES...
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  64. +2
    18 March 2015 15: 45
    [quote=DON-100] the people of Donbass responded to the calls of the Russian Spring and, when a referendum was announced, most of the population of the DPR and LPR spoke in favor of the independence of our republics from Ukraine.
    As far as I remember, there was no referendum in Donbass on secession from Ukraine and joining Russia. And there was a referendum on the federalization of Ukraine.
    1. 0
      18 March 2015 17: 09
      [quote=vnord][quote=DON-100] the people of Donbass responded to the calls of the Russian Spring and, when a referendum was announced, most of the population of the DPR and LPR spoke out for the independence of our republics from Ukraine.
      As far as I remember, there was no referendum in Donbass on secession from Ukraine and joining Russia. And there was a referendum on the federalization of Ukraine.[/quote]
  65. -2
    18 March 2015 15: 48
    Quote: veksha50
    Quote: Heimdall48
    And what is so heroic that our president did


    If you live in Russia, and do not cover your Nick with its flag, you should have noticed the difference between Yeltsin’s Russia and Putin’s Russia ... And this is not even subject to discussion ...

    Putin's Russia is a smooth continuation of Yeltsin's Russia, but what has changed - there were bandits - they became oligarchs, education, medicine look much worse than under Yeltsin, offshore companies are still the same, corruption is the same, prices are still rising, sometimes smoothly, sometimes abruptly, The dollar is the first currency, the ruble is wooden as always, but what has changed - only the names? Well, the propaganda has, of course, improved - Putin, in your words, is almost a god.
  66. +1
    18 March 2015 15: 51
    Quote: ligronok1998
    Actually, in recent interviews, he said that if the punitive battalions were not disarmed, then we would recognize Novorossia - all the consequences ... As for Strelkov, he really began to say something incomprehensible ... But we'll see ...


    I remember how, near Slavyansk, Girkin, under cameras, gave the order to liquidate the mortar crew, which the Rex unexpectedly informed him about. After that, Strelkov as a commander was over for me. And not only for me, but for all my comrades. I don’t know what his future fate is as a politician or social activist. But considering his “break-in” by Tolik, his fate is not interesting, like everything non-Smiyanovsky.
  67. 0
    18 March 2015 16: 09
    Truly in Rus' they say, Pravda-Matka!
    The hive, it contains a very large number of bees, but there is only ONE QUEEN (TRUTH) there!
    1. 0
      18 March 2015 16: 27
      Either there is more than one truth (everyone has their own and can coincide or intersect with others), or there are more hives than one. smile
  68. 0
    18 March 2015 16: 13
    Girkin panics and takes on a lot.
  69. +2
    18 March 2015 16: 14
    A politician, not a politician, but Strelkov said what millions think, and there is nothing to add to what was said. The Kremlin missed a real opportunity to become a Power. We won’t be able to deal with Crimea for long; Russia will have another Chechnya - in the sense of an exemplary financed region. Yes, and the Crimean Tatars, unless they lick their ass, another eternally right-wing nation has appeared in Russia. Millions of broken destinies, cripples, devastation in the Donbass - and for what? And most importantly, seeing such a policy - putting Russian regions under Bandera, all resistance will come to naught.
    1. -2
      18 March 2015 16: 56
      Quote: Aleksiy
      all resistance will disappear.

      Not without your possible help.
      tongue
  70. Stark
    +6
    18 March 2015 16: 20
    I fully support Strelkov. The Kyiv junta could have been stopped in the spring and summer of 2014. There were numerous pro-Russian rallies in Ukraine, and there were still organized anti-Nazi structures. However, the Kyiv bandits managed to almost completely deal with the opposition. Where was Putin and the entire Russian leadership when they burned Russians in Odessa on May 2, and shot them in Mariupol on May 10? Were they holed up in the Kremlin, afraid that the West would seize their foreign accounts? How did it happen that Ukraine did not pay $3 billion for gas in May-June to Gazprom and began a punitive operation in the Donbass with this money? Why did Putin silently endure and still endure all the insults of Ukrainian politicians and their Western masters, undermining his authority and the authority of the country he leads? As W. Churchill said, “He who chooses shame between shame and war receives both war and shame at the same time.” Due to the passive and cowardly position of the Russian leadership after March 16, 2014. Russia received the status of an “aggressor country” and international sanctions. Who would refuse to kick a bear that has huddled in a corner and silently endures all the beatings and insults?
    1. -4
      18 March 2015 16: 50
      Quote: stark
      afraid that the West will seize their foreign accounts?

      Already a lot of people rooting for the people, just all the rhetoric from the 90s. Have you not undergone retraining?
      laughing
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  71. +2
    18 March 2015 16: 24
    Putin is slowly but surely leading Russia to defeat. It is necessary not to spend billions on exercises, but by spending millions to take Kiev and end the fratricidal war to make politics. They will bark for a year or two and shut up. It will be indivisible with the capital in Lviv or the Romanian Poles will continue to gut the independent one, this It’s no longer our problem, it’s the mattresses’ problem.
    1. -1
      18 March 2015 16: 41
      Quote: viktor52
      Putin is slowly but surely leading Russia to defeat.

      And I don’t think it can lead to anything, to your regret.
      Isn't it to you _
  72. 0
    18 March 2015 16: 28
    While this is a statement, I agree with Strelok 100%, but when he starts doing analytics and medium-term forecasting, it’s difficult for me to easily nod my head.
  73. 0
    18 March 2015 16: 29
    I hope that Strelkov is still wrong, although he himself has similar thoughts and a cloud of questions arises. Let's see and wait.
  74. +7
    18 March 2015 16: 30
    Well, they blamed Strelkov. But he is right even from the point of view of an ordinary citizen. There is a lot of writing here that the fifth column needs to be identified. But why identify it? She is around the guarantor, the one appointed by him is running around. Come on, schoolboy, who has been kicked out lately? The governor, for taking him beyond his rank? Where Serdyukov trudges in the kitchen with a beer, where Chubais steals using “nanotechnology”, where generals are imprisoned, military warehouses exploded, where the former minister of Agroprom, who stole everything and everyone abroad, trudges on coral sand, and yet her guarantor is personally appointed and represented. Next, come on, shkolota, give examples from life when a ruler managed to sit on three chairs? They were all screwed. Strelkov wrote about it correctly. And openly. Read, students, how many people, not liberals, scientists, economists, write directly about what the liberals, who were appointed by the guarantor, are doing to Russia. And no action. But under I.V. Stalin they were imprisoned for simple negligence, and for the deeds of our liberals there were execution sentences. And the latest law on reducing fines for bribes? Is this something - “you’re doing the right thing, we approve.” For this they should sit and be shot, like in China. And you are here, maybe HE doesn’t know. Stop fooling around. If he knows that Chubais worked under the control of the CIA and does not imprison him, this means one thing, our guarantor does not have all the power in the country, it follows that we are still living under dictation of the West and there is no need to sing hosannas and pour oil. This will continue as long as all this power is at the helm. And instead of relying on the people, as Stalin did in his time, our guarantor relied on the “friends” and Strelkov said correctly , they will steal it. The houses and loot behind the hill are more expensive than anything. And whoever believes that they took it out of there is either a complete loser or because the newly minted bourgeois understand that in Russia an amen will soon come to them for their treatment of the people. In general, you only need to believe in the Lord God, and only check the rest. But in Russia, words and deeds do not match (Russian World, Russians do not abandon their own, implementation of the “May” decrees, 25 million jobs, and much more).
  75. -1
    18 March 2015 16: 46
    Again Putin send in troops. What a desire to drag Russia into open war.
    It was still understandable in May - July, when Donbass was under threat of defeat. But now, when the militia is winning, why all this whining?

    Well, accusing everyone around, from Putin’s entourage to the leadership of the LPR and DPR, of betrayal/incompetence does not look good on Strelkov.
    1. +1
      18 March 2015 17: 52
      Post a video presentation Strelkova.

      And then you can write everything ... if there is something they write, so you see and hear ... or did someone decide to draw conclusions for us?

      And no former merits will help, those who ... (I don’t know what to say until I see it).
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  76. +3
    18 March 2015 16: 47
    Girkin takes on a lot.
    Isn't it time for him to go to Donbas again?


    genius bastard! It is already known that Stelkov did not resign of his own free will and left for Russia, the only thing one can regret is that he did not become the first president of Novorossiya
  77. 0
    18 March 2015 16: 58
    Of course, I am grateful to him in many ways...creating a capable army from poorly organized people is no small matter. But there is no need to flirt and go too far.
  78. +1
    18 March 2015 16: 59
    Everything is so, but not so. It is impossible to compare last year’s situation in Crimea and Donbass. The Crimeans made their own destiny; they had a recognized leader, Aksenov. Putin and Russia only drove their enemies away from them. For this, fate gave them a bloodless return to their homeland. As for Donbass. I remember how, at a time when the cities were noisy and shouting “Russia, Russia,” experts were asked. Why are the miners silent? To which they responded, they say, they need to feed their families. But no suitable leader emerged. The Party of Regions muddied the waters. They wasted time and fate took revenge on them for it. Even when the fascist horde attacked them, even then they did not have a clear leader, and those who emerged began to bark at each other. Strong leaders emerged only with great bloodshed. May God grant them victory. This is the price of delay.
  79. 0
    18 March 2015 17: 07
    Judging by the car, he found a good feeder and is now trying to play off his brand.
    Since when did he become a big politician? Maybe as a militia commander he’s not bad, but he’s in vain getting involved in big politics—it’s not his thing.
    But again, the money needs to be earned.
    1. 0
      19 March 2015 08: 08
      A car, a car, but he REALLY does something for the people of Donbass, but we are all honest, decent, we don’t have Mercedes, which is of no use for the people of Novorossiya.
  80. 0
    18 March 2015 17: 07
    It’s unpleasant to read the comments (it’s already suspicious that almost everyone is “unanimous, comrades”). No one could admit that the hero (definitely) could make a mistake.
  81. +2
    18 March 2015 17: 28
    Quote: non-Russian
    I muddied the massacre in the Donbass. I wanted a quick victory. I wanted the winner’s laurels. He wanted to drag Russia into the war. And now he is furious and crawls there where it is not necessary. Competent officers, especially the FSB, do not. If you analyze his actions, all sorts of thoughts climb into your head.

    do not compare the KGB of the USSR and the FSB of the Russian Federation - these are two big differences....one is an elite and the other is scum
  82. 0
    18 March 2015 17: 34
    My friend needs my opinion, not with words but with deeds to prove that you are right, go to Donbass and put all your words and thoughts into practice
  83. 0
    18 March 2015 17: 54
    Awww... people... what are you talking about!!!

    Post a video presentation Strelkova.

    And then you can write everything ... if there is something they write, so you see and hear ... or did someone decide to draw conclusions for us?

    And no former merits will help, those who ... (I don’t know what to say until I see it).
  84. +1
    18 March 2015 18: 43
    I’ve read the many-sided comments on this difficult issue, and I want to add my two cents. At one time, I sincerely admired Strelkov: hero of the defense of Slavyansk, all that. I don’t deny his merits in the slightest even now. They write here that Russia could... in a few days... end the fratricidal war, take Kyiv... Well, what next? A good half of the population of Ukraine would not have greeted our soldiers with goodies, and the money needed for this military campaign was clearly not several million, but “a little more.” Recent events have shown how unstable our economy is, as well as the reaction of many individuals to this, including here: on this site. Strelkov calls for war, but to say fairly and impartially: can Russia, being at the initial stage of rearmament and experiencing economic problems, enter into open conflict with everyone, albeit the desperately decaying West + the United States, which will support Ukraine, despite disagreement on separate issues? Still, if we put jingoism aside, wouldn’t this option be a “little suicide” on a national scale? That’s why I really don’t like these speeches of his, and I think I’m not the only one.
    1. 0
      18 March 2015 20: 23
      Awww... Do you have a video of this performance?

      So lay it out... but you can write anything... maybe we’ll still draw our own conclusions... and not on someone else’s orders?
      1. +1
        18 March 2015 21: 10
        Awww... Maybe stop filling up your feed with the same call to post a video of your performance? There are other videos where Strelkov performs in the same spirit, should they be posted too? And we all know how to minus without arguments, gentlemen, “unknown soldiers”.
  85. +2
    18 March 2015 19: 01
    Quote: sibi
    Girkin takes on a lot.
    Isn't it time for him to go to Donbas again?


    Can't we have any other opinions now?
  86. 0
    18 March 2015 20: 11
    A marksman tactician, he wages war using military methods over several areas.

    Putin is a strategist, his theater of operations is the whole world in all its dimensions: social, economic, moral, military, diplomatic.

    Both are professionals, but each has their own area of ​​competence, and here Strelkov cannot replace Putin.
  87. -1
    18 March 2015 20: 17
    Well, Putin is a hardened liberal, and everyone has known this for a long time. I think there would be no shame in handing him over to his Hague friends.
    1. +2
      18 March 2015 21: 12
      And as I understand it, you propose Strelkov as an alternative to Putin? Or does this statement not provide any specifics?
    2. -1
      18 March 2015 21: 44
      First learn to write without spelling errors, and then, judging by the flag who gave you the right to judge Putin, you don’t live in Russia, which means it’s not for you to judge who and where to extradite
  88. 0
    18 March 2015 22: 03
    If I were the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, I would take Strelkov into custody, firstly, he has a lot of combat experience... Secondly, I would have learned and shared my experience... Thirdly, I would have been in action and not hanging around the country, voicing God goodness knows what, instigated by some dark personalities... Something like this bully
  89. +2
    18 March 2015 22: 48
    I’m also watching the celebrations of the reunification of Crimea with Russia, but I’m haunted by the question: aren’t the Russians living and fighting in Donbass? Lavrov somehow casually began to call the inhabitants of Donbass Ukrainians... So many Russian people are being killed practically behind our fence, and Lavrov tells everyone that we do not supply weapons there and there are no our troops there and for some reason he thinks that this is a plus for the Russian authorities... And the blocking of aid accounts for Donbass, the organization of difficulties on the border with Donbass is generally shocking. The president’s entourage is almost entirely “Gaidarites”; capital is being taken out in the hundreds of billions - doesn’t anything bother you? It confuses me..
  90. +2
    19 March 2015 01: 06
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    I do not consider his White Monarchist project as something necessary for Russia.

    This project was finally “curtailed” in Yekaterinburg in 1918. The topic is closed, although, apparently, not for everyone... “Don’t torment your heart with future misfortune, don’t overstrain yourself with past bitterness, and don’t build on sand, live today, or you’ve wasted your life!” (Omar Khayyam) hi
  91. Mr_Severe
    -1
    19 March 2015 08: 31
    Strelkov, for all his merits, is an unpleasant character!
  92. Sendi7s
    0
    19 March 2015 14: 11
    Don’t hope, Girkin, that the Urals will support you. There are few people like Roizman there.
  93. Yuzver
    0
    19 March 2015 18: 54
    I also think that the Kremlin leaked everything.
    Time will tell what will happen to Putin. Definitely cotton patriotism is in the air just like in 1914.
    I see many people don’t like what Girkin says. People don’t want to hear that everything was leaked. People want to hear that everything is fine even if it's not. As far as I know, the language of the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics does not appear anywhere in the Minsk agreements. Only regions of Ukraine. And the fact that the Kremlin supports this already speaks of a drain.
    And I view Putin’s increasingly frequent jingoistic speeches as a loss of power among the elites. Trying to rely on the people.
    1. Sendi7s
      0
      20 March 2015 11: 35
      For Yuzver RU Yesterday, 18:54

      I suggest you read the material by Maria Lisitskaya
      from 19.03.2015/15/54, XNUMX:XNUMX

      " Strelkov is being cast as the leader of the jingoistic wing.

      A year has passed since the reunification of Crimea with Russia. Many events were planned across the country from March 11 to 18 to mark the occasion. And on the 15th, the Rossiya TV channel showed Andrei Kondrashev’s film “Crimea. The Path to the Motherland”, telling in detail the story of a year ago.
      The details of such operations are often kept secret, but in this case we were shown all the ins and outs, every step of the peninsula on the way to becoming part of Russia, including the participation of Russian special services and domestic military equipment in this process. Why was this done? Probably because there is nothing special to hide. This was not a secret operation to seize foreign lands, but only help to people who wanted to independently determine their future destiny.
      “The ultimate goal was not to seize Crimea or some kind of annexation. The ultimate goal was to allow people to express their opinions on how they wanted to live their lives. I’m telling you completely frankly, I’m telling you honestly. I thought to myself, if people want it that way, then so be it. This means that they will be there with greater autonomy, with some rights, but as part of the Ukrainian state. Let it be. But if they want it differently, then we can’t leave them! We know the results of the referendum. And we did what we were obliged to do!” Russian President Vladimir Putin says in the film.
      But not only that, there was nothing to hide. The film turned out to be extremely timely because it was necessary to show the truth. Some, like political scientist Rostislav Ishchenko, believe that the film is addressed more likely to a Western viewer, others, like the editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko, see in it a dialogue between the authorities and Russian citizens. And perhaps the main task of the film is precisely the latter. Show the Russians how everything really happened, demonstrating both the technical side of the issue and explaining the motives of the participants in those events.
      They showed us a lot of participants. The film talks about the role of the Russian special services, the Crimean people's militia, the local Berkut unit, Crimean bikers and many others. All responsible persons are given their word, no attempt is made to hide anyone. But there is one person who is not shown even briefly in the film, but, nevertheless, insists that he was directly involved in those events, almost in the title roles.....
  94. Sendi7s
    0
    20 March 2015 11: 36
    .....
    This man's name is Igor Strelkov. He became known to the general public at the time when he led the Slavyansk militia, soon after which he took the post of Minister of Defense of the DPR. He became famous for many loud statements, in particular that it was he who “pulled the trigger of the war.” However, three months after being appointed Minister of Defense of the DPR, Strelkov resigned. However, by that time he had become attached to the topic of the conflict in the South-East of Ukraine and still continues to comment on the events in Donbass and leads the Novorossiya movement, aimed at humanitarian assistance to the militias. As part of this movement, he actively travels around the regions of Russia, willingly talking with journalists.
    And not so long ago, Mr. Strelkov spoke about his own contribution to the reunification of Crimea with Russia. This happened on the “Polit-Ring” program, during which the former Minister of Defense of the DPR discussed with the leader of the “Great Fatherland” party Nikolai Starikov. “The militia gathered the deputies to drive them into the hall so that they could make (a decision - Author). Yes, and I was one of the commanders of these militias,” Strelkov told his version of the vote.
    What is surprising here, at first glance, is this. Igor Strelkov positions himself as an ardent patriot and consistent supporter of Vladimir Putin. However, he allows himself to declare facts that have not only never been confirmed by anything other than his own words, but are also at great odds with the official version of the Russian authorities, and also with the memories of representatives of Crimea, which has joined our country. In essence, they personify precisely the accusations of annexation heard from the West. However, the initial surprise disappears if you study Strelkov’s behavior and rhetoric as a whole.
    The vast majority of his speeches one way or another boil down to the fact that Russia does not care about the future of Donbass and does not help the militias at all. Strelkov is not satisfied with the humanitarian convoys that the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations has been sending in columns to the South-East of Ukraine all this time. He insists that our troops should have been sent to Donbass long ago, which Russia has not yet done. He lamented this issue at a recent conference in Yekaterinburg dedicated to the Novorossiya movement.
    On the one hand, Strelkov’s statements that there are no Russian regular units in Donbass once again put the West in its place, accusing our country of the opposite. On the other hand, the speeches of the former Minister of Defense of the DPR are primarily beneficial to this very West, if they are not written at all by speech writers there.
    In any case, overseas puppeteers receive certain benefits from the conflict in South-East Ukraine. The film about the reunification of Crimea with Russia perfectly explains why the “polite people” that Strelkov was waiting for in Donbass appeared on the peninsula. Firstly, their appearance is due to the strong desire of the Crimeans to become part of the Russian Federation. Secondly, there was a legitimate government there, which made it possible to hold a referendum. In Donbass, we observed a civil war between the militias and the Kyiv regime. By the way, Strelkov’s comrades are still convinced that it can be completed only when the last soldier on the enemy side falls. “Until the enemy is finished off, the war will not end,” he is sure.
    ......
  95. Sendi7s
    0
    20 March 2015 11: 37
    ...
    If Russia had gotten involved in this internal Ukrainian civil war, it would have been an act of external aggression, and not support for a self-determined people, as a result of which, let us remind you, no one was even injured at the hands of the Russian military in Crimea. And this aggression would completely free the hands of Western countries.
    However, the real purpose of Strelkov’s attacks is not calls for the Kremlin to go to war against Kyiv. And not even condemnation for the fact that Russia does not do this. It's all just a shell. The goal is different, although the beneficiary is still the same.
    If liberal slogans are absolutely linear - annexation of Crimea, democratic values, support for Kyiv - then the line of behavior of Strelkov and his supporters is much more cunning and insidious. His first goal is to drive a wedge inside the Kremlin team, or at least create the outward appearance of this wedge. It is for this reason that he constantly emphasizes that he is a supporter of Putin, and publicly suspects that the president’s political entourage is exclusively responsible for the “leaking of Novorossiya.”
    In fact, this arrangement is absurd. In the same film about Crimea, Vladimir Putin made it clear that he deals with all difficult foreign state issues personally: “When the top officials of the state do this, it is easier for the executors to work. They feel it, understand it and know that they are executing orders and not engaging in arbitrariness.”
    But the goal of planting the idea of ​​conflicts in the Kremlin in the minds of the audience is just a secondary one. The main task is the second one. And it consists in legitimizing the prospect of a coup in the minds of society. Its very possibility. Moreover, Strelkov is trying to present this very cunningly, in the form of fears voiced out loud.
    First, he talks about a certain conspiracy existing in the Kremlin, as a result of which, without the knowledge of Vladimir Putin, Novorossiya is being “merged.” In particular, there are accusations against Presidential Aide Vladislav Surkov. He further prophesies that Vladimir Putin will suffer the fate of the executed Emperor Nicholas II or the Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic, who died in a Hague prison. “The calculation is that after another six months or a year of jostling like this, not only liberals will be against the president, but also patriots will turn against Putin. Then he will repeat the fate of Milosevic, who was overthrown in a single fist by the local liberals, with the local patriots, since he pursued a policy that was neither yours nor ours,” Strelkov fantasized in Yekaterinburg, confirming his arguments with “mistakes” that, in his opinion, look, Vladimir Putin personally managed to admit.
    ...
  96. Sendi7s
    0
    20 March 2015 11: 39
    ...
    However, these are just Strelkov’s fears expressed out loud. Even if they resemble a threat, it is unlikely that the former Minister of Defense of the DPR would openly declare that the “overthrowing single fist” would be controlled by his hand. Moreover, there is someone to tell about this without him. For example, the publicist Maxim Kalashnikov, who preaches far-right views, said that Mr. Strelkov should lead the national guard and at the same time form an anti-crisis government of people’s trust.
    That is, the promised patriots are already catching up, it’s up to the liberals. Which is also unlikely to have to wait long. Journalist Yulia Latynina, for example, in her program on Echo of Moscow back in the summer, dubbed Strelkov a hero of Novorossiya and a possible candidate for the presidency of Russia.
    And then things will go according to the Ukrainian scenario, where, under liberal slogans about European integration, a coup was carried out by adherents of radical right-wing views. At least Igor Strelkov speaks about such prospects, while delicately keeping silent about what role in these events will be assigned to him personally. And it seems that the authors of this project have chosen for him the role of the very link that will connect liberals with national patriots.
    Strelkov himself demonstratively disavows politics. He does not intend to become a leader of popular protest and claims that changing service to the Fatherland for glory is “the height of dishonor.” And the Novorossiya movement, according to him, is also apolitical. However, we have already heard how Mikhail Khodorkovsky swore off getting involved in politics after leaving prison, and how Alexei Navalny disavowed the potential role of the country’s leader. After a short time, both of them demonstrated the opposite of their initial ambitions, so it is stupid to judge Strelkov’s plans by these statements.
    Instead, I would like to say a few words about the “drain of Novorossiya”, which he constantly points at the Kremlin. We all understand perfectly well that the war in the South-East of Ukraine must end. But it is hardly possible to do this using the methods that Igor Strelkov calls for. A war to the last soldier is a stupid idea, regardless of whether Russia would participate in it, thereby provoking retaliatory aggression from the West, or not. This war can only be ended through diplomatic methods. And it is in this direction that Moscow is working in the lead roles. But Igor Strelkov is unlikely to appreciate this. Rather, he will continue to claim that the Kremlin abandoned Donbass. After all, most likely Strelkov doesn’t care at all about the future of Donbass, and the tasks before him are completely different.” (C)

    http://politrussia.com/control/strelkova-primeryayut-na-305/
    Maria Lisitskaya