US Armed Forces: A Brief Overview

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The influence of the USA on other countries is due to several factors. First of all, it is a powerful economy with which the economies of many other countries are directly connected, as well as the global financial system as a whole. In addition, the United States has at least one of the best armies in the world. This country is the world leader in the size of the military budget, which also translates into technical and other superiority over the masses of other countries. As a result, in various ratings, the US armed forces regularly rank first. Consider the main features of the American army.



Common numbers

One of the main features of the American armed forces are the record large size of the military budget. Over the past few years, attempts have been made to reduce costs, but now, according to some data, it is planned to return to growth. In the 2014 fiscal year, about 610 billions of dollars were allocated for defense. 2015 plans to spend about the same or a bit more. Nevertheless, in the current situation, the United States retains the largest military budget in the world, with a serious lead over its closest competitors in the person of Russia and China.

According to the directory The Military Balance, in 2014, about 1492,2 thousand people served in the US military. In addition, 14 thousand jobs were provided to civilian specialists. If necessary, the Pentagon can take advantage of the reserve, which includes 843,75 thousand people.

US citizens may enter military service with 18 years (or with 17 years - with the permission of parents or legal representatives). The maximum age of recruits is limited and depends on the type of armed forces. So, in the land forces take persons not older than 35 years, and in the Marine Corps - not older than 28 years. With a population over 316 million people, the United States has a great mobilization potential. According to reports, about 120 million people are eligible for service.

Ground troops

The total number of land forces, including the National Guard Army, is 586,7 thousand people. In addition, 528,5 thou reservists are attributed to land forces. Thus, the US Army is the most numerous structure in the US armed forces, due to a number of its features.

The personnel and equipment of the ground forces are distributed among several large subdivisions for various purposes. The 2 th and 3 th cavalry regiments, as well as 3 reconnaissance brigades, are responsible for conducting reconnaissance in the interests of the ground forces. There are 5 "heavy" divisions, equipped with armored vehicles of various types, self-propelled artillery, etc. The 2-I and 25-I infantry divisions belong to the "middle" and have the appropriate composition. They have means of transportation and fire support for personnel, etc. technique. There is also one light infantry division. The landing troops are represented by three large subdivisions. These are the 82-i and 101-i divisions, as well as the 173-i brigade.

The US Army has 2 helicopter brigades, 7 artillery brigades, 5 engineering brigades, 3 logistics brigades, 3 medical brigades, and other units to perform support functions.

The Army of the National Guard serves about 20 thousand people. The number of National Guard reservists exceeds 330 thousand people. Due to other goals, this structure has a smaller number of units in comparison with the armed forces. So, in its composition there are only 7 armored brigades and 3 "heavy" infantry brigades. "Medium" mechanized brigades are represented by only one such division, "light" - 20 brigades. At the same time, the National Guard Army has 13 helicopter brigades, 7 artillery, 7 engineering, etc.

The US Army has a large number of various military equipment. As of 2014, there were 2338 troops tanks M1 Abrams in operation. About 3500 of these machines were in storage. There were also 1928 reconnaissance vehicles of several types, and most of them (a little more than 1000 units) are equipment based on the Stryker platform. For the transportation of personnel used 4559 infantry fighting vehicles M2 and M3 Bradley. About 2000 of these machines are in storage.



The most numerous vehicles in the US Army are armored personnel carriers: several types of 25209 vehicles. Despite the cuts, one of the most massive armored personnel carriers remains M113 of later modifications. In parts there are about 5 thousand such machines, another 8 thousand are in storage. The delivery of an armored personnel carrier of the Stryker family continues: it has already been transferred to the 2792 troops of such vehicles. In recent years, 17417 MRAP-class armored cars were built, including X-NUMX M-ATV type vehicles.

Artillery is represented by 5899 guns of various types. These are the 969 self-propelled artillery mounts M109A6 (about 500 such SAUs are in storage); 1242 towed guns caliber 105 and 155 mm; 1205 multiple rocket launcher systems; as well as 2483 mortars, including self-propelled ones.

To combat the tanks can be used 1512 self-propelled anti-tank complexes. These are the TN 1379 complexes on the HMMWV chassis, as well as 133 machines based on the Stryker platform. In addition, infantry units rely Javelin wearable missile systems.

For landing, US Army can use 45 landing craft of type LCU-1600 and LCU-2000. There are also 8 boats of the type Frank Besson and 73 type LCM-8.

As part of the U.S. Army aviation units. They use 61 reconnaissance aircraft, both with photo equipment and with electronic intelligence equipment. There are also about 160 transport aircraft of several types.

In this case, the basis of the American Army Aviation are units equipped with helicopters. They have AH-737D / E Apache attack helicopters, 64 multipurpose OH-356D Kiowa Warrior, 58 reconnaissance OH-90A / C Kiowa, 58 multipurpose HH-126. For the transport of goods used 60 transport helicopters of several types, including 2787 heavy CH-397 Chinook several modifications. Pilots are trained using TH-47 Creek 154 helicopters.

US Armed Forces: A Brief Overview


Army units also operate 323 unmanned aerial vehicles. The most common type of such equipment is RQ-7A Shadow (236 units).

Military air defense is represented by approximately 1300 units of various equipment. These are 816 self-propelled complexes: 703 FIM-92A Avenger, 95 M6 Linebacker and 18 THAAD. There are also 480 towed MIM-104 Patriot complexes of several modifications. FIM-92 Stinger man-portable air defense systems are issued to various units.

Naval forces

The US Navy serves 322,7 thousand people. In the reserve are 100,75 thousand people. All naval units are divided between two large fleets, the main points of base which are located on the Atlantic and Pacific coasts of the country. In addition, five fleets have been formed, the area of ​​responsibility of which are those or other areas of the oceans. All US Navy formations include 72 submarines and 107 warships.

The US fleet includes Ohio 14 submarines carrying 24 UGM-133 Trident II ballistic missiles. In addition, they are armed with torpedo tubes. Ohio-type submarines are currently the only strike weapons of the naval component of the US strategic nuclear forces.



Ohio-type 4 submarines, previously equipped with ballistic missiles, were repaired and re-equipped with Tomahawk LACM cruise missiles. After upgrading, each such submarine carries 154 rockets. Search and destruction of ships or enemy ground targets is also assigned to 30 multipurpose Los Angeles-type submarines in two versions. There are 10 multi-purpose submarines of the Virginia project. The main armament of Los Angeles and Virginia types of submarines are LACM missiles.

Some amount of torpedo nuclear submarines is saved. This 11 submarines of the Los Angeles type of the first modification, armed only with torpedo tubes, as well as 8 submarines of the Seawolf type. The latter can use both torpedoes and rockets launched through torpedo tubes.

The main striking force of the US Navy are 10 aircraft carriers such as Nimiz. Each of them carries a set of anti-aircraft weapons, as well as an aviation group consisting of several dozen airplanes and helicopters. The main strike means of such ships are F / A-18 Hornet fighter-bombers - up to 50-60 aircraft on board.



The US Navy has 22 cruisers of the Ticonderoga type, equipped with two vertical Mk 41 launchers with 61 cells for weapons. Depending on the combat mission, these ships can carry anti-missile missiles RGM-84, cruise Tomahawk LACM, several types of anti-aircraft missiles, etc.

The most massive type of ships in the US Navy are destroyers of the type Arleigh Burke in the number of 62 units. At the present time in the ranks there are destroyers of several modifications, having a different composition of weapons and equipment. The main armament of such ships is one vertical launcher Mk 41, similar to that used on Ticonderoga cruisers.

10 frigates of the Oliver Hazard Perry project, which have anti-aircraft, artillery and torpedo weapons, remain in the ranks. In addition, over the past few years, three ships of the class Littoral Combat Ship were built. Two built on the project with the symbol Independence, one on the project Freedom.



To patrol waters, 55 ships and boats of several types are used. Also available are 13 minesweepers such as the Avenger, 245 landing craft and 71 auxiliary vessel. Delivery and disembarkation of troops ashore are assigned to 30 amphibious assault ships of several types, including the 1 ship of the Tarawa project and the 8 type San Antonio.

An important part of the naval forces is naval aviation. This structure employs 98,6 thousand people. Personnel and equipment are distributed between 10 air wings, each of which consists on average of 8 squadrons. There are units of strike aircraft, reconnaissance and electronic warfare, anti-submarine squadrons, etc.

The US Navy naval aviation has a total of 1089 aircraft of various types. The most numerous of them are carrier-based fighter-bombers, of which there are 823 units. The overwhelming majority of this technology is F / A-18 Hornet airplanes of various modifications. In addition, deliveries of the F-35C Lightning II have begun.



The second largest are anti-submarine aircraft - the 151 board. These are the P-140C Orion 3 aircraft and the P-11A Poseidon X-NUMX aircraft. The third in number - EW aircraft EA-8B Prowler and EA-6G Growler (18 units).

There are X-NUMX E-69C / D Hawkeye long-range radar detection airplanes, EP-2E Aries II, X-NUMX reconnaissance RC-11F / M Huron reconnaissance aircraft, as well as several types of 3 transport and 2 training aircraft.

The main US Navy multi-purpose helicopter is the MH-60 - 495 units in three versions. There are MH-28E Sea Dragon 53, 3 OH-58C Kiowa, 11 HH-60H Seahawk helicopters, and several types of 13 transport and 120 helicopters.

The Navy has 60 unmanned aerial vehicles. Deliveries of MQ-8B / C devices (21 unit) are continuing, 4 RQ-4A Global Hawk machines were transferred for testing.

Air Force

The total number of personnel of the US Air Force - 329,5 thousand people. 168,85 thousand people listed in the reserve. Various units of the Air Force are subordinate to several commands. So, Global Strike Command manages strategic aviation and units armed with ballistic missiles. Under the command of Air Combat Command, connections with various strike aircraft were consolidated. Air Mobility Command is responsible for military transport aviation, Air Education and Training Command - for the training of pilots.

In total, the US Air Force has 1438 combat aircraft of various types. Long-range aviation is represented by 136 bombers of three types: 63 B-1B Lancer, 19 B-2A Spirit and 52 B-52H Stratofortress. It should be noted that units equipped with B-1B bombers belong to the Air Combat Command, and the other two types of equipment are operated by the Global Strike Command.



The bulk of combat aircraft in the air force - fighter-bombers of several types. These are the 585 F-16 Fighting Falcon of several modifications, the 211 F-15E Strike Eagle and the 27 F-35A Lightning II - the entire 823 aircraft. The direct support of the troops lies with the 160 of the A-10C Thunderbolt II attack aircraft. For the execution of fighter missions in the Air Force, the X-NUMX F-275C Eagle (15 units), the F-106D Eagle (15 units) and the F-10A Raptor (22 units) are used.

Also 14 EW EC-130H Compass Call, 80 reconnaissance aircraft of several types, 22 radio reconnaissance aircraft, 32 E-3B / C Sentry detection aircraft, etc. can be involved in combat missions. There are 167 tanker aircraft KC-135 of two modifications and 59 tanker / transporter KC-10A Extender.

The units subordinated to the Air Mobility Command include X-NUMX heavy military transport aircraft C-228A Globemaster and C-17 Galaxy; 5 Medium C-140 Hercules and 130 are several lung types. Also, the Air Force has 39 passenger aircraft.

For the training of pilots used aircraft of three types. These are T-1A Jayhawk (179 machines), T-6A Texan II (405 units) and T-38A Talon (546 units).

In the US armed forces, attack helicopters belong to army aviation and are operated in the relevant units of the ground forces. For this reason, the Air Force has only a few types of 143 helicopter. This technique is mainly used for the transport of goods and personnel.

The air force has 248 unmanned aerial vehicles of several types used for reconnaissance and strikes against ground targets. These are the 101 UAV MQ-1B Predator, the 115 MQ-9A / B Reaper, the 31 RQ-4B Global Hawk and several RQ-170 Sentinel.

In addition to strategic aviation, Global Strike Command is under the command of units armed with intercontinental ballistic missiles LGM-30 Minuteman. Currently, there are about 450-500 of such products in service.

The US Air Force is armed with various missiles and bombs, both guided and unguided. There are air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons. In addition to weapons with a conventional warhead there are nuclear warheads. In addition, if necessary, aircraft can use electronic warfare equipment, made in the form of overhead containers.

Marine Corps

In the Marine Corps serves 197,3 thousand people. KMP reserve - 37,55 thousand people. This type of armed forces is designed to conduct military operations at a great distance from the bases, which affects its structure and equipment. Thus, various amphibious vehicles are actively used in the marines. In addition, there is its own aircraft. At the same time, however, ships and boats for the implementation of amphibious assault forces should be provided by naval forces.

The Marine Corps units have 447 M1A1 Abrams tanks. Also operated 252 armored LAV-25. For the delivery of troops to the coast during the landing and other transportation tasks, 1311 amphibious vehicles AAV-7A1 are used. Other transport tasks are assigned to the 1679 M-ATV and 2380 armored vehicles of MRAP class armored vehicles.

The artillery units of the KMP have 1506 guns of various types. These are 832 and 105 155 caliber mm 40, M142 HIMARS and 634 mortar propulsion systems, including self-propelled.

Marine anti-tank weapons consist of X-NUMX self-propelled LAV-TOW missile systems based on the LAV-95 BTR chassis and a large number of TOW radar-mounted anti-tank systems. The main means of protection from an air attack is FIM-25 Stinger MANPADS.

The most important part of the Marine Corps are aviation units, designed to provide fire support and perform other tasks. The aviation structure of the KMP includes almost 70 of various units with different equipment and weapons.



KMP aviation has 394 aircraft of several types. F / A-18 aircraft of various modifications (222 units) and AV-8B Harrier (125 units) form the basis of aviation of the marine corps. Also, deliveries of F-35B Lightning II aircraft have begun, 30 of such machines are already in operation.

29 EW EA-6B Prowler aircraft, 46 KC-130J Hercules, 19 transport and passenger aircraft, as well as X-NUMX training T-3C Turbo Mentor can be used to carry out auxiliary tasks.

Over the past few years, the MV-22 Osprey (210 machines of several modifications) have become the main vehicle of the KMP. Also available are 374 transport helicopters, including the 145 heavy CH-53E Sea Stallion, the 90 medium CH-46E Sea Knight and the 70 UH-1Y Iroquois. Operation of the AH-158W Cobra and AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters continues.

Coast guard

The situation on the waters monitored 41,2 thousand military and 7,6 civilian employees serving in the coast guard. All water areas for which the coast guard is responsible are divided into 9 areas. 4 areas are in the Pacific Ocean, the rest 5 - in the Atlantic. The main task of the Coast Guard is to patrol waters and prevent various illegal activities.

The US Coast Guard has 159 patrol and warships and boats. The park of this technology is represented by various numbers of boats and ships of different types. For example, boats of type Marine Protector are available in the number of 73 units, and the boat Alex Haley is the only representative of its project. The Coast Guard auxiliary fleet consists of 377 units of equipment for various purposes.

The coast guard has its own aircraft. These are 57 airplanes, including 14 HU-25 of several modifications and 27 HC-130H / J Hercules, as well as several types of 125 helicopters. The most massive of the helicopters available is AS366G1 - 90 units, the delivery of another 11 is planned.

Special Operations Forces

The US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) or the Special Operations Command is the central authority coordinating the work of the relevant armed forces units. Under his command, the commands, which are part of various types of armed forces, work. The total number of US Special Operations Forces is 60,2 thousand people. In addition, 6,4 thousand civilian employees work in this structure.

From the ground forces, the US Army Special Operations Command (USASOC) participates in the structure of the special operations forces, under the command of which serves 32,4 thousand people. This command is subject to several ground units, an aviation regiment, a logistics brigade, as well as several battalions whose task is to work with the civilian population.

USASOC has 640 M-ATV armored vehicles, 50 AH-6M/MH-6M Little Bird helicopters, 130 MH-47G Chinook helicopters and 62 MH-60s of several modifications. There are also 57 reconnaissance drones several types.

US Naval Special Warfare Command or NAVSOC manages some units of the Navy, engaged in the forces of special operations. 9,5 thousand people are involved in this structure. The main striking force of NAVSOC are the SEAL units. To support them, there are other units responsible for transport, equipment, etc.

The air force is represented on the USSOCOM by the command of the US Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC) with a population of 15,3 thousand. 2 squadrons of AC-130H / U fire support aircraft, 14 transport squadrons, 5 training squadrons and 2 UAV squadrons obey him. In total, there are 149 airplanes in total, including the AC-25H / U and 130 transport MH-61 130 airplanes (various modifications). AFSOC has 35 CV-22 Osprey converters. In addition, there are several types of 40 helicopters. Most of them are light Bell 205 (24 machines). An interesting fact is that there are several Soviet / Russian-made aircraft and helicopters in the transport squadrons: An-26, Mi8 and Mi-171.

AFSOC is responsible for the heavy UAV 39. These are the 29 Reconnaissance MQ-1B Predator and the 10 MQ-9 Reaper for a similar purpose.

3 thousand people are employed in the command of the US Marine Special Operations Command (MARSOC). For a number of reasons, there are only three divisions in this structure: one special regiment and two auxiliary battalions.

Satellite constellation

The Pentagon’s satellite constellation includes 115 spacecraft for various purposes. This technique is used to perform various tasks related to supporting the armed forces.

36 satellites are used for communication, including 3 type AEHF, 8 DSCS-III, 7 UFO, 6 WGS SV2 and others. The satellite navigation system GPS NAVSTAR uses the 33 satellite: 9 NAVSTAR Block II / IIA, 4 NAVSTAR Block IIF and 20 NAVSTAR Block IIR / RM. The DSN-6 5 satellites are used for meteorological and oceanographic services. The United States has a developed group of reconnaissance spacecraft. These are the FN, 2 ORS-1, 1 TacSat-1, 1 SBSS 1, and several types of 22 electronic reconnaissance satellite. As part of the missile attack detection system, 4 satellite DSP and 2 SBIRS Geo-1 are operated.


Based on:
http://globalsecurity.org/
http://janes.com/
http://defense-update.com/
http://defense.gov/
The Military Balance 2014
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  2. +47
    17 March 2015 05: 52
    ..the main thing is motivation + fighting spirit .. wink
    1. 0
      17 March 2015 07: 55
      Motivation, of course, is primary. The United States does not stand still: the researchers from Oregon believe that the propulsion system they have developed can be used to create robots designed to work in disaster areas, where living people are not at all safe to move. In addition, such a "bird" motor system can become the basis for a new generation of prostheses, enabling them to perform more natural movements.
      In conclusion, it should be noted that this project is funded by the Pentagon DARPA Advanced Research Programs Office as part of the Human Frontier Science Program (HFSP). Source: http://www.dailytechinfo.org/robots/6827-sverhbystryy-dvunogiy-r
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      1. +13
        17 March 2015 09: 05
        If this goes on, then in the next upgrade the robot will give change.
      2. +1
        17 March 2015 17: 36
        From a neighboring topic about this ostrich.
        aleks 62 RU Today, 16:45 ↑
        ... he needs to constantly prank, and if it falls then all the carcasses of light ....

        ..... Will legs frantically jump .... wassat

        alexey bukin (1) SU Today, 16: 43 ↑
        We must send him to Kiev. Let him ride on the Maidan.
    2. 0
      17 March 2015 15: 19
      And why doesn’t such a patriot ride Lada Kalina?
    3. Denis fj
      +6
      17 March 2015 19: 27
      It is precisely because our armed forces are an insurmountable obstacle for a potential adversary that Russia can afford to have its own opinion in the international arena. And look at Europe, they are now just an American colony. And the funny thing is that Obama-Niger now tells the white gentlemen what to do))) Truly the sage was right that there is no more cruel master than a freed slave !!!
  3. +13
    17 March 2015 06: 19
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    ..the main thing is motivation + fighting spirit ..

    That's the way it is. In general, these horror stories are not impressive with weapons and equipment; in Vietnam, the Yankees did not enter the village until they were airborne, and even this did not help them achieve their superiority. So, briefly, if you never be the rulers of the world, they just have to cry.
    1. +6
      17 March 2015 10: 00
      Quote: YURMIX
      in Vietnam, the Yankees did not go into the village until they were treated from the air

      to be honest, this is the right tactic that is spelled out in the charters of the us army.
      if a fighter launches more than two stores or God forbid a bayonet (fist, knife, shovel) battle begins, then this is a miss of intelligence and headquarters.
      1. +1
        17 March 2015 11: 27
        if a fighter launches more than two stores or God forbid a bayonet (fist, knife, shovel) battle begins, then this is a miss of intelligence and headquarters.


        Any soldier \ warrior should keep melee! With the exception of Strategic Missile Forces And other the right guys, their job is "a little different." Or are you of the opinion that the soldier \ warrior is not the one who takes the risk with my lifecarrying hardships and hardships, performing your military duty, and the one who sits on the priest at the remote control and joystick in a cozy little room looking at the monitor. No, I understand that it is very cool not to risk anything, and then tell the descendants that "I was in the war - I am a hero", but still, maybe a soldier / warrior is the one who, if necessary... will protect Homeland? ... not for the joystick of a combat drone drone ...

        PS I love when not a single soldier is killed in a war ... a Russian soldier... ... okay, Russian ... sorry, the tolerance is the same (these are my cockroaches).

        Sincerely.
        1. +3
          18 March 2015 12: 39
          Each side during the fighting strive to win with minimal losses. The main thing in military art is to defeat the enemy and at the same time save the life of personnel. With all disrespect for the Yankees, they put much less of their people in Iraq and Afghanistan than ours in the Afghan war. Therefore, the enemy must always be closely monitored, study his armed forces, their organization, tactics, look for weaknesses and pay attention to strengths. Soberly assess the capabilities of the enemy and their own. Then in the event of hostilities, victory is inevitable.
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          18 March 2015 12: 39
          Each side during the fighting strive to win with minimal losses. The main thing in military art is to defeat the enemy and at the same time save the life of personnel. With all disrespect for the Yankees, they put much less of their people in Iraq and Afghanistan than ours in the Afghan war. Therefore, the enemy must always be closely monitored, study his armed forces, their organization, tactics, look for weaknesses and pay attention to strengths. Soberly assess the capabilities of the enemy and their own. Then in the event of hostilities, victory is inevitable.
        3. 0
          19 March 2015 00: 47
          Quote: Brother
          Sincerely.

          I’m talking about minimizing losses, why let fighters into reconnaissance when there are robots - ground, UAVs ... A trained fighter costs much more than a piece of iron ...
          1. 0
            19 March 2015 06: 30
            I’m talking about minimizing losses, why let fighters into reconnaissance when there are robots - ground-based, UAVs ...


            If the soldiers / warriors do not hold close combat, then their losses will be significantly higher. It is in their own interests to be able to lead correctly. melee, and this is (mostly) fire contact (this is in my understanding).

            Definition from pedivics (also suitable for me).


            We will not go into combat.

            A trained fighter is much more expensive than a piece of iron ...


            It depends on what piece of iron... production time and price, circumstances and appropriateness of use (the prospect of losing an aircraft carrier, how do you like this?). Without a good expensive piece of iron, a modern soldier / warrior is nothing of himself. In addition, you are well aware that the United States possesses all the riches of planet Earth... they have all the money in the world.
            The United States says that they have solved all their tasks (where they fought), and most likely this is true... the task was simply to bomb cities and countries to zero, and land connections did not participate in ground operations (Afghanistan is the last straw), because for the most part these land connections could not and cannot (and this is against simple gopniks with rusty DShKs), robots can perfectly bomb from the air, but they can’t fight in the city, mountains, forests, jungles, swamps, etc.
            Minimizing losses when solving the tasks of pinpoint and massive missile and bomb strikes using drones-unmanned aerial vehicles is GREAT, but what if you need to go down "to the ground"? Vietnam has shown that all the mighty US aviation (the same drones, only with pilots wassat) PERFECTLY hammers the "ground", and then...

            I don’t know what else to write to you ... I expressed my opinion in full ... I believe that drones-drones are EXCELLENT, but this is not a panacea (reminiscent of the ideas of the Third Reich about miracle weapons). The good old melee on all types of soils solves all issues ... as it was from the very beginning of the history of mankind and throughout its length ... so it will be today and in a hundred years. EVERYTHING decided on the ground ... drones, drones need to return somewhere ...

            Sincerely.
            1. Robespierre9
              -1
              20 March 2015 23: 55
              Those. the fact that the Pskov paratroopers abandoned without support is it right chtoli? So it is - melee and all that? Americans would NEVER do this and would not allow it. Let me remind you that the incident was in our territory, and not in Libya or Iraq, where the loss of as many as 10 soldiers is considered a disaster and complete failure, right?
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                1. Robespierre9
                  -1
                  24 March 2015 23: 25
                  A concrete example, which went unskillful indiscriminate criticism, minus you. No.
  4. +11
    17 March 2015 06: 19
    the Yankees’ army is all the more its budget is really large, but if you imagine its deployment on the world map, there’s not so much, you can and even can fight with it, all the more so the Yankees are used to fighting in comfort, because it deprived it of the lion’s share of communications including in space, this army is practically becoming dead ...
  5. +11
    17 March 2015 06: 26
    The main thing is a comprehensive, comprehensive training, which includes the motivational component too. But on it you will not leave one further than the nearest trench - you will remain there. The likely opponent is technically clearly stronger. So to write about matches and moonshine of a Russian soldier as an advantage is complete idiocy. And there are a lot of those who think so, unfortunately.
    1. 0
      17 March 2015 06: 40
      The likely adversary is technically clearly stronger

      Name the area where the pin ... dos are stronger than Russia.
      1. +10
        17 March 2015 07: 22
        Washington area
        1. +5
          17 March 2015 10: 49
          Quote: mivmim
          Name the area where the pin ... dos are stronger than Russia.

          At the moment, the fleet, the army and aviation in general, drones, sights and night vision devices.
      2. +17
        17 March 2015 07: 47
        We’ll throw it with Urashapki here. Good. Without going into details, briefly. In the field of ground forces, aviation, the United States has an advantage. In the field of electronic intelligence, communications, including on the battlefield, in the field of the Navy, and most importantly, the performance of the US defense complex, they have an overwhelming multiple advantage. Only in terms of strategic nuclear forces is parity and this is the only thing that will cover us if something happens. More precisely, the USA and NATO are stopping for now. And in a direct clash with the use of conventional weapons, the chances of winning are zero.
        1. +7
          17 March 2015 08: 02
          Quote: Samy
          And in a direct collision with conventional weapons, the chances of winning we equal to zero.

          it is with you! where and when did you see the Americans in a direct collision? (WWII do not consider) to iron the Arabs only from the air! Have you seen enough Hollywood movies?
          1. +1
            17 March 2015 08: 23
            This is with us, in the Russian Federation. And the Americans had direct clashes with Japan, Germany, North Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia and so on and so forth. Those. they have a huge combat experience. And dozens of local conflicts. By the way, can you tell me what type the Russian army was reorganized after 2008? Transition to brigades and quick reaction forces ...
            1. +7
              17 March 2015 09: 51
              Quote: Samy
              This is with us, in the Russian Federation. And the Americans had direct clashes with Japan, Germany, North Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia and so on and so forth. Those. they have a huge combat experience. And dozens of local conflicts. By the way, can you tell me what type the Russian army was reorganized after 2008? Transition to brigades and quick reaction forces ...

              on equal terms, the Americans fought only with Japan and then until the age of 45 (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) everything else is about nothing, especially about Germany in 44-45, in other cases it was an attack by a gopnik on a child, because of our loss in the event of a conventional war, we have an insurmountable loss threshold higher than that of all of NATO combined.
              1. +6
                17 March 2015 10: 53
                Quote: PSih2097
                in other cases, it was a gopnik’s attack on a child,

                This does not mean that the "child" is stronger than the "gopnik". In order for a "gopnik" not to attack, you must not be a "child"
              2. +5
                17 March 2015 11: 33
                Quote: PSih2097

                on equal terms, the Americans fought only with Japan and then until the 45 year (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) everything else is about nothing.

                And with whom after 1945 did SA / RA fight on equal terms? Basically, all the conflicts in which she participated were at her absolute numerical and technical superiority.
                1. 0
                  19 March 2015 00: 53
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  And with whom after 1945 did SA / RA fight on equal terms? Basically, all the conflicts in which she participated were at her absolute numerical and technical superiority.

                  if you recall there was still the Kwantung army ...
              3. Dam
                0
                30 March 2015 20: 11
                I wonder where from the above it was possible to solve combat missions.
        2. -11
          17 March 2015 10: 36
          The ground forces they do not know how to fight at all, proven and more than once.
          About the advantage of pin ... dos aviation, ridiculed, honestly the word. lol
          Electronic intelligence? What are you talking about? About iPhones, or what? lol So they have long been Chinese.
          In the Navy we checked them on a cookie. laughing
          And their overwhelming multiple advantage is only in the cut of painted green pieces of paper.
          Well, like a pin of kinushek ... I’ve seen enough of Dossky, tie it up. lol
          1. +12
            17 March 2015 12: 12
            Quote: mivmim
            The ground forces they do not know how to fight at all, proven and more than once.

            Personally? I hope ...
            Quote: mivmim
            About the advantage of pin ... dos aviation, ridiculed, honestly the word.


            Russian Air Force. Strategic and long-range aviation.

            Tu-160 - 16 units
            Tu-95 - 32 units

            US Air Force

            B-1B - 63 units
            B-2A - 19 units
            B-52 - 52 units

            Is funny Not for me.
            1. +1
              18 March 2015 12: 31
              Tu-95 will be more. Half of the conservation is kind of like. That and the Tu-22m3 is still a distant bomber. At least it can become if necessary. Compare with the Lancer!
            2. +1
              18 March 2015 14: 31
              What are you talking about, but you forgot about Tu-22M3 (M) - there are about 150 of them (41 Tu-22M3 and 30 Tu-22M3M, the rest are in storage).
            3. 0
              27 October 2016 09: 04
              Hello. Whatever figures you give for their aviation, navy and drones. It’s useless, they’ll answer with s300 s400 and s500 everyone)))))) We’ll sink the aircraft carriers and so on)))) And you are 100% right.
          2. +1
            17 March 2015 16: 56
            Are funny. Think minuses instructed, and pin ... dos are stronger than steel. laughing Yes, they always, everywhere, and from all the muslims received, even from the smallest. Pin ... dos they are and in Africa pin ... dos laughing
            1. +5
              17 March 2015 17: 57
              "mivmim", oh and funny you)))
              You are collecting nonsense, apparently a stupid person.

              You write as you let bubbles in a puddle.
              Of course, why, something to back up with facts? Why show at least minimal logic or analytics.
        3. -6
          17 March 2015 11: 05
          And the weak in spirit who do not believe that Russia will insist on their head so that there will not be a Yankee nation, but a nation of Indians. , you can immediately bury a couple of meters underground. They are potential traitors.
          1. +5
            17 March 2015 17: 35
            do not underestimate the enemy, let them be wrong in their assessments.
        4. 0
          18 March 2015 02: 07
          You’re in vain, of course. They didn’t start to fight, but already surrender ...
        5. +1
          18 March 2015 12: 28
          Quote: Samy
          in a direct collision with conventional weapons, the chances of winning are zero.

          so Hitler thought with Napoleon.
        6. Dam
          0
          30 March 2015 20: 07
          If you, dear, besides stupidly counting the numbers, would have asked questions how to deliver all this to a probable theater, and how to supply all this and provide at least BK, not to mention orange juice and toilet paper, you probably wouldn’t wring your hands and did not shout that everything was gone. This article reflects one side of the coin. For fun, google the composition of the Russian Armed Forces. So far, we have an advantage in the BBM by 2,5 times, in artillery by 3,5 times, in global air defense, in aviation parity. Even if we do not take into account nuclear weapons (which, in principle, makes the possibility of a direct attack a fantasy), we must understand that all of this is not spread over the ball like with our partners, but rather compact and ready for use (as the exercises of recent months show) . The Army of Fashington is an effective mechanism for educating Indians and small states that do not have air defense. I agree on one thing, we really cannot attack them first, all the same, the configuration of our Armed Forces is more likely defensive, but we will be able to repel the desire to fight forever. Just do not fight the Americans honestly. These filths rely more on the dollar, but on fifth columns, the dough into which is poured more than in AUGs
      3. 0
        17 March 2015 10: 40
        In the Navy, we are losing them a lot.
        1. Dam
          +1
          30 March 2015 20: 23
          And our doctrine is different. According to strategists, parity. And our entire surface fleet is not intended for direct war in the ocean, only an additional cover for our shores. If you look at the armament, in our case, and on our shores their AUGs are only very expensive targets. Ask how many planes an aircraft carrier can hold in the air. Surprise-4. The problem is that our seas completely level out any superiority of amers in the fleet. They are taken from the coast 200 km earlier. These beautiful toys are good when satellites are working, AWACs fly with impunity, since there is no enemy electronic warfare. And in the case of the beginning of a big fox, all these gadgets will die first. No one wondered why our ballistic missiles have redundant lamp circuits? It’s just that everything that Amer’s high-precision fly on is either jammed by electronic warfare, or buried by an EM pulse of a nuclear explosion, but the lamps do not care, well, it’s not flying at 10 m, but at 100, with its kilotons it’s not very important
      4. -3
        17 March 2015 17: 14
        Best technologies laughing
      5. +1
        24 October 2016 09: 51
        Yes Easy. The main area of ​​their superiority is their practically inexhaustible military-technical and military-economic resource. This is not about giving up. This means that one must clearly realize that without undermining the financial system, the "fiery finger" of this miracle Yuda will rub as many fire-breathing heads as needed. The main drawback is in the staff: 1) they are not so superbly trained 2) their motivation is such that they are ready to PUNISH, but only a few are capable of fighting (in blood, mud, sacrificing their lives). But with the growth of the robotization of the armed forces (leveling of the human factor), the power of this Goliath will only grow. In fact, the balance of power between us is the "squad of Perun" against several plate legions. We can give them help, the question is how long we will last.
    2. +8
      17 March 2015 06: 50
      especially the identification of Russians with moonshine. here on the site they laughed at drunk dill and here is an agitation about the fact that a drunk soldier is normal
    3. +9
      17 March 2015 07: 57
      Quote: Samy
      So to write about matches and moonshine of a Russian soldier as an advantage is complete idiocy.

      no need to banter over the Pentagon (trolling if you like) to perceive so painfully ...
    4. erg
      +8
      17 March 2015 17: 23
      I would say not so much technically as quantitatively. The level of technology and theirs and ours is almost the same, but they have more of it and they know how to produce it. In the event of a large-scale war, many promising developments are more likely to be retracted, since it will be necessary to produce existing weapons in large quantities. In general, the high cost, here is the Achilles heel of the American army. Even in peacetime, it is too expensive. One of the reasons is the need to maintain a large reserve (reservists, for example, receive almost the same monetary allowance). But if the US Army is larger than ours and has more technical equipment, then this does not mean that it is impossible to effectively fight and win with it. In tactical terms, we are prepared no worse than them. We need to develop an appropriate strategy that would nullify the entire advantage of the US Army. For example, our advantage is remoteness from the USA. So it will be expensive for them to provide their army in case of war with Russia. Alaska does not count. Even for modern technology, deliveries through Alaska are difficult, in addition, this means a theater of operations in Siberia (which is likely to turn into a positional war, without any chance of success, mainly due to climatic features), a clearly unsuccessful direction for an attack on Russia. That is, one of the directions of our strategy should not be the US admission to our borders. The protracted nature of the war can also play into our hands. Even for a powerful economy, war is too much a blow (just the high cost of the US Army will play a role).
      1. +2
        18 March 2015 00: 26
        Then, the symmetry of the answer is not required. They have a thousand tanks and we have a thousand. Even during the years of stagnation in the deployment of SDI, ours did not rush to develop satellites with nuclear-pumped lasers, etc. It is enough to launch a "trough" with a chopped rail into orbit for about an hour :))) and the entire SDI grouping is swept away. "Gravity" with Sandra Bullock is resting ...
  6. -6
    17 March 2015 06: 37
    Pin ... dos army is strong only in one thing, in the ability to cut the budget. laughing
    1. +7
      17 March 2015 10: 55
      Quote: mivmim
      Pin ... dos army is strong in only one thing, the ability to cut the budget

      I think that in this skill the Americans have talented competitors ... in Russia
  7. +2
    17 March 2015 06: 38
    About motivation and patriotism during the Great Patriotic War, we have already gone through and with what sacrifices! And the war will be at a distance where moral factors do not matter much. In addition, why do you think that Americans are without moral factors? They have them farther than the Russians, because they consider the United States - the most democratic and strong country in the world. What can not be said about the bulk of the Russians. About the comfort of Americans, rumors are greatly exaggerated. In addition, physically they are much more athletic than the Russians. Yes, it remains only to envy such power.
    "The national economy of Russia is not capable of producing the necessary means of war even in peacetime, Russia is not ready for mobilization tension. Of the 143 million population, only 71 million are able-bodied citizens aged 18 to 60 years. Of 71 million, only 30-31 million are men , of which draft age - about 20 million people. Drafting into the army in full is impossible, since there will be a shortage of manpower at the enterprises. In addition, for religious and national reasons, some sections of the population may take the side of the enemy. "
    1. +6
      17 March 2015 07: 56
      Of course you are right in something. The enemy cannot be considered weaker. The realities are completely different.
    2. +3
      17 March 2015 08: 05
      Quote: kuz363
      And the war will be at a distance where moral factors do not matter much.

      Quote: kuz363
      In addition, physically they are much more athletic than the Russians. Yes, it remains only to envy such power.

      Quote: kuz363
      Russia is not ready for mobilization tension.

      Quote: kuz363
      Drafting into the army in full is not possible, as there will be a shortage of labor in enterprises

      Quote: kuz363
      . About the comfort of Americans, rumors are greatly exaggerated.
      pearls without comment ... laughing
      1. +5
        17 March 2015 08: 40
        Excellent selection, everything is clear right away, and no need to read it.
      2. +1
        17 March 2015 11: 06
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        pearls without comment ...

        And besides the emoticon with a jamb there are no other arguments?

        Maybe you think that Russia, in its liberal model of the economy, is ready for mobilization tension?
        Or do you think that the Americans will indeed go to the bayonet and here our moral-willful will play a decisive role?
        As for sportiness. Look at the fighting qualities of North American NHL hockey players compared to ours.

        Do not underestimate the enemy - this is a sure way to defeat.
        1. +6
          17 March 2015 17: 35
          As for sportiness. Look at the fighting qualities of North American NHL hockey players compared to ours.

          Do not underestimate the enemy - this is a sure way to defeat.

          What sport there ??? What are you about??? About fighting qualities ??? wassat Can you look for differences in the exam on the American green beret and our military intelligence of the RF Armed Forces?
          Or do you think that the Americans will indeed go to the bayonet and here our moral-willful will play a decisive role?
          Ahem, the air cover was destroyed, the connection was interrupted, the artillery batteries were destroyed, what will the brave American guys do? One good ambush in Iraq was enough that the mercenaries of their Erins and Black Water were needed like diarrhea.
          Think back to the recent artillery drill news, map, compass and target - ALL you need to fire and make adjustments. Poor Americans, when global positioning systems fail, start scratching their turnips - "When will they fix it?"
          1. +2
            17 March 2015 18: 56
            Quote: Marssik
            What sport there ??? What are you about??? About fighting qualities ??? Can you look for differences in the exam on the American green beret and our military intelligence of the RF Armed Forces?

            Yes, such an ordinary sportiness.
            Not strong in the difference between exams on green beret and on
            our military intelligence of the RF Armed Forces? (??? belay What is meant?)

            I am more in terms of general sportiness in general and hockey in particular.
            As Kharlamov is known, Yakushev and many others excelled Canadians in skill. But Kharlamova was broken by Clark (and didn’t even answer for it), Canadians beat Mishakov in turn (and ours stood and watched), and we lost the whole super series of the 72 year.
            This is not about comparing the physical fitness of a military aircraft, but about general sportiness and combat readiness.
            By the way, more than forty years have passed, and at least Mirasti level fighters are still not observed.

            Quote: Marssik
            Ahem, air cover destroyed, communication interrupted, artillery batteries destroyed

            Ahem ... Somewhere I already heard it. Ah, well here:
            "Threatening fire, sparkling with the brilliance of steel, the machines will go on a furious campaign ..."
            и
            "With a little blood, a mighty blow ..."
            It is known where they rolled back after such songs - to the Volga.

            How are you going to destroy enemy aircraft, disconnect and destroy his artillery batteries?

            Once again - underestimating the enemy and hatred - a sure way to defeat.

            Quote: Marssik
            One good ambush in Iraq was enough

            What was enough for? To defeat the Americans in the Iraq war?

            that sharply like diarrhea, the mercenaries of their Erins and Black Water were needed
            .
            Are these mercenaries not the same Americans and Europeans?
            1. +5
              17 March 2015 20: 35
              Not strong in the difference between exams on green beret and on
              our military intelligence of the RF Armed Forces? (??? belay What is meant?)
              How it all starts ...
              This is not about comparing the physical fitness of a military aircraft, but about general sportiness and combat readiness. By the way, more than forty years have passed, and at least we still have no fighters of the level of Mirasti.
              Well, and?) That is, the average American, a little lower than the middle class, will outperform the average Russian’s militancy?) Sorry, but the cult of money is much less common and some will need kicks to realize the need to take an unpaid place in the trench. Not to mention that sport and war are very different things.
              Once again - underestimating the enemy and hatred - a sure way to defeat.
              Are we talking about soldiers and their possible moral qualities or about a possible clash as a whole ??? wassat
              How are you going to destroy enemy aircraft, disconnect and destroy his artillery batteries?
              How many times I am convinced that the number of advantages of individual comrades is not yet a sign of their charisma.
              With the natural, bright head of the commander’s father and miscalculations of the opposite side, only a sudden and violent resistance can break a good scheme. When a stronghold almost bare and covered on all sides continues to shoot, breaking the planned time and filling up the operation as a whole. I think you can remember well-known examples.
              What was enough for? To defeat the Americans in the Iraq war?
              To withdraw their units and replace patrols with regular army soldiers by mercenaries. They saved the soldiers, but they didn’t add experience to them either. The experience came to the mercenaries, and not to the American army. Not so long ago Prof laid out the pictures as they cleaned us. Point-laughter and nothing more.
              These mercenaries are not the same Americans and Europeans
              Czechs, Poles, Israelis, former US military, the same Russians, etc. (Since the Czechs are big, everyone means a bit of respect laughing) They all have one thing in common - they work out only the paid clauses of the contract and they will not have to wait for heroism or stubborn defense (in order to give time to withdraw the units from the blow in the big war).
              1. +5
                17 March 2015 21: 38
                “We have a lot of helicopters in the States, we don’t go, we fly. Therefore, for such marches we have to train a lot. But I don’t understand why to go a hundred kilometers, get tired, and then fight, when you can make it so that you are taken to the battlefield by helicopter? ” - Perplexed US Army Sergeant James Smith. The idea that a helicopter could be shot down did not occur to a tactically illiterate American soldier.
              2. -6
                17 March 2015 22: 04
                Quote: Marssik
                How it all starts ...

                You? I agree.

                Quote: Marssik
                Well ?

                And well!

                Quote: Marssik
                Are we talking about soldiers and their possible moral qualities or about a possible clash as a whole ???

                About the sportiness of the nation, the moral qualities of the soldiers and the possible clash as a whole. Did not notice? How it all starts ...

                Quote: Marssik
                How many times I am convinced that the number of advantages of individual comrades is not yet a sign of their charisma.

                As well as the lack of pluses in other comrades does not say anything about THEIR "shaliness"

                Quote: Marssik
                Natural, bright head of the commander's father

                Magically!
                With the bright head of the commander's father (as far as these heads are "bright" is widely known), we destroy enemy aircraft, disrupt his communications and smash his artillery positions, as well as with a tongue, which, as you know, is boneless, we sweep his ground forces off the face of the earth and drown his saliva his fleet. Hooray! We won!

                Quote: Marssik
                laid out the pictures as they cleaned us. Point-laughter and nothing more.

                It would be better if our sweeps did not sometimes cause tears.

                Quote: Marssik
                Czechs, Poles, Israelis, former US military, the same Russians, etc.

                Who cares who they are if they fight on the side of the Americans.
                What to expect from mercenaries and enemy forces, we do not know yet, but we are already celebrating the victory. Nothing new.
                The rake is already laid out and waiting for the next raked.
                Life does not teach us anything.
                1. +1
                  17 March 2015 22: 37
                  It would be better if our sweeps did not sometimes cause tears.
                  Well, well, don't you deign to be an example? Precisely "cleaning".
                  Magically!
                  The bright head of the commander's father (it is widely known how these heads are "bright")
                  Even too lazy to answer, you can see in the place of the history of 41-45 you have one big gap.
                  These mercenaries are not the same Americans and Europeans
                  и
                  Quote: Normal
                  Who cares who they are if they fight on the side of the Americans.
                  you really decide the right, then "not the same", then "what's the difference" - double standards have penetrated everywhere like ... wassat
                  1. 0
                    17 March 2015 23: 15
                    Quote: Marssik
                    Even too lazy to answer, you can see in the place of the history of 41-45 you have one big gap.

                    Tell me, about someone versed in the "history of 41-45", if you are not too lazy, of course, thanks to what degree of lordship of the heads of the fathers-commanders did we end up in 41 near Moscow, and in 42 on the Volga?
                    Why wasn’t the bright heads of the fathers-commanders able to take Rzhev until the Germans themselves left, apparently putting more people and technology there from light-headedness than in the Battle of Stalingrad?
                    About the bright heads of the fathers-commanders near Vyazma and Bryansk, tell us, near Kharkov, in the Crimea of ​​the 42 year, there were also quite a few bright heads of the fathers-commanders.
                    Clear my gap in this question.

                    These mercenaries are not the same Americans and Europeans
                    и
                    Who cares who they are if they fight on the side of the Americans.
                    I see no contradiction. If
                    Czechs, Poles, Israelis,former US military , the same Russians, etc.
                    they are fighting on the side of the Americans (who, as you know, are a nation of migrants, i.e. the same Poles, Germans, Czechs, Scots, Irish, British, etc., other ... other ...), then what's the difference who they are by national origin? Enemies are enemies. And no double standards.
                    But in order to avoid double standards in our communication with you, I can return your minuses, as they say, one by one. Is going?
                    1. +1
                      18 March 2015 15: 58
                      Quote: Normal
                      Tell me, about someone versed in the "history of 41-45", if you are not too lazy, of course, thanks to what degree of lordship of the heads of the fathers-commanders did we end up in 41 near Moscow, and in 42 on the Volga?
                      Why wasn’t the bright heads of the fathers-commanders able to take Rzhev until the Germans themselves left, apparently putting more people and technology there from light-headedness than in the Battle of Stalingrad?
                      About the bright heads of the fathers-commanders near Vyazma and Bryansk, tell us, near Kharkov, in the Crimea of ​​the 42 year, there were also quite a few bright heads of the fathers-commanders.
                      Clear my gap in this question.
                      And you thought right away in the ladies, quickly bend the Wehrmacht that conquered Europe into a ram’s horn? With just the Finnish War and the Halkin Gol? laughing Yes, on our side there were the same "miscalculations" as in 43, 44, 45 of the Germans. Why then they could not organize a second Rzhev anywhere else? laughing
                      they are fighting on the side of the Americans (who, as you know, are a nation of migrants, i.e. the same Poles, Germans, Czechs, Scots, Irish, British, etc., other ... other ...), then what's the difference who they are by national origin? Enemies are enemies. And no double standards.
                      They will think 20 more times before sticking their heads into a meat grinder, most will refuse because life is more important than money.
                      But in order to avoid double standards in our communication with you, I can return your minuses, as they say, one by one. Is going?
                      Yes, it’s absolutely all the same, at least every hour press wassat
                      1. +1
                        18 March 2015 16: 29
                        Consequently, on the topic of the bright goals of the fathers-commanders in the indicated battles 1941-1942gg you have nothing to do, some show-offs.
                        So in other matters (Finnish, Khalkhin-gol, Germans in 43-45 years) you are a connoisseur of the same. Where do you even know Rzhev?
                        On all other issues raised, the same show-offs and the complete absence of at least a semblance of arguments.
                        Bored with you.
                        Farewell.
                      2. -1
                        18 March 2015 20: 14
                        Consequently, on the topic of the bright goals of the fathers-commanders in the indicated battles 1941-1942gg you have nothing to do, some show-offs.
                        So in other matters (Finnish, Khalkhin-gol, Germans in 43-45 years) you are a connoisseur of the same. Where do you even know Rzhev?
                        On all other issues raised, the same show-offs and the complete absence of at least a semblance of arguments.
                        Bored with you.
                        Farewell.
                        Yes, yes, a kind of subtle intellectual hint, but if, in a simple way, “he threw a piece of shit at his opponent and ran away.” Well, good luck ...
                      3. Dam
                        +1
                        30 March 2015 20: 37
                        And you take the trouble to read not the liberal yellow press, but historical literature, but rather archives, maybe you will learn about the Grodno operation of 41 years, about the SMOLENSK DEFENSE, about the Elninsky counterattack, about the defense of the Brest Fortress. By the way, the combat losses of the Germans in the Second World War are about 5 soldiers, and our 000 soldiers. And the difference is that 000% of the German prisoners survived, and ours 8500%. It’s just that the story was turned into a weapon. By the way, with the bloody Zhukov, the losses in the deadly Berlin operation did not exceed 000%. (the pain charter says that losses can reach 47% in the offensive), by the way, about the fathers of the commanders. But Private Ryan is closer to you.
            2. Robespierre9
              -1
              18 March 2015 03: 44
              At the expense of hockey, I agree, ours, especially at first it could be compared with a team consisting of skaters, not hockey players, and Canadians with a team of wrestlers ready to mutate everyone in a row, though they also played well .. At the expense of the Tarasov-Tikhonovs - not I think our coaches are such geniuses of hockey coaching skills, it seems to me that our team almost always had a serious problem with the realization of the moments - ours are more likely to cut circles and not score, but the Canadians just did it off scale - they probably didn’t even realize 100-120% of your moments, because scored even when there were no prerequisites for this. Moreover, we always had the opportunity to create super-motivation - in the West it was unrealistic to do so, because hockey players should have had such things as personal life, entertainment and playing in the NHL at last, and our players in the team were something like conscripts in the army - ready for anything and without any right to anything other than a game; either you leave the team, or you belong to the coach 100%, this could exist only in the Soviet Union, and in my opinion there is nothing good - Canadians without such outrageous psychological and other pumping were able to play with us at least on equal terms, which means in fact, they were trite better, as we play without such motivation, we all know that it’s worthy, but not the best in the world, Canadians are objectively the best, and that’s not because they are super people, no, they just have more hockey (yes, that's right) more hockey stadiums.
              1. 0
                18 March 2015 05: 59
                At the expense of the Tarasov-Tikhonovs - I don’t think our coaches are such geniuses of hockey coaching skill, it seems to me that our team almost always had a serious problem with the realization of the moments - our team will cut circles rather than beat,
                how crazy are you .......
            3. 0
              18 March 2015 06: 10
              I am more in terms of general sportiness in general and hockey in particular.
              As Kharlamov is known, Yakushev and many others excelled Canadians in skill. But Kharlamova was broken by Clark (and didn’t even answer for it), Canadians beat Mishakov in turn (and ours stood and watched), and we lost the whole super series of the 72 year.
              This is not about comparing the physical fitness of a military aircraft, but about general sportiness and combat readiness.
              By the way, more than forty years have passed, and at least Mirasti level fighters are still not observed.
              Normal. I'm just amazed (what are you writing about? You don’t understand anything about this. I brought Mirasti here. Why? Well, why? Well, remember MMA and ask yourself why John is not fighting there? How can he be called a hockey player? look at his hockey career. where he played, for whom, and what he’s doing now ... if it weren’t for Nazarov, no one would know this clown in our country. His whole hockey thought is expressed in his words:Score? It does not matter. Fights are important. I want to fight in every match
              we don’t need such hockey
            4. 0
              18 March 2015 08: 42
              Dvoeshnik. Find among the modern athletes in the United States at least a dozen indigenous, solid, naturalized. Native Americans have long been sitting in front of a telly with a beer and a hamburger, their belly hanging down.
              1. 0
                18 March 2015 10: 52
                Quote: eaa59
                Normal. I'm just amazed (what are you writing about?

                How long have we been on "you"?
                Quote: Gleb
                you don’t understand anything about this. I dragged Mirasti here. why?

                Well, where am I going ...
                I drew mirasti to compare and illustrate the lack of fighting mentality among our hockey players, and hockey players generally drew as an example of the sportiness of the nation. Not getting it? Problems with the perception of someone else's point of view?
                Quote: eaa59
                Well, remember MMA and ask yourself why John is not fighting there? How can he even be called a hockey player?

                Why would he need MMA if he played NHL? There are other examples, such as Mirasti’s sworn rival friend Steve Bossa.



                But the Boss in Ultimate Fights



                Yes, and Mirasti also noted



                And this is how our "fighter" looks against the background of Mirasti



                Which Mirasti hockey player? Yes, in his role is quite in demand, since he played in the NHL. The boss, in my opinion, did not play.

                Quote: Gleb
                we don’t need such hockey


                Well, yes, how ... heard.
                Let Clarks continue to break the Kharlamovs, scoffing mockingly and remaining unpunished.
                Let, as one of our coaches said after appearing in Vityaz, only Vero - "I have half of the team playing in diapers."
                But through our lips we will declare “we don’t need this kind of hockey” and joke about the athleticism and fighting spirit of the Americans on the forums.
                1. 0
                  18 March 2015 20: 02
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbJ3C18flUQ&feature=player_detailpage Вот видео..Судите сами crying I feel sorry for the arrogant Saxons bully
                  1. 0
                    18 March 2015 22: 39
                    Quote: Alex Esin
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbJ3C18flUQ&feature=player_detailpage


                    And here it is - ARGUMENT. I admit it.
                    About the opponent of our fighter, you can say-

                    "He's certainly a matter of honor.
                    He defended his uniform as best he could.
                    By the end in a warm place
                    Sheltered his toilet "

                    A. Novikov.

                    True, after one of the fights there flashed an account ...

                    USA -5
                    World - 4

                    Yes, and the fighting qualities of the Americans also can not refuse.
                    And those Americans who
                    Quote: eaa59
                    long sitting in front of a telly with beer and a hamburger, hanging over his stomach.

                    somehow it was not noticed in the ring wink

                    To this topic. Although not an army competition, it’s a pleasure to watch

            5. 0
              18 March 2015 13: 36
              I wanted to ask: did you meet with Americans or do you judge by films?
              This is me about "but about the general sportiness and fighting spirit." Sportiness - it's hard to say, they have a lot of fattrests, as well as ours. But what about fighting spirit? It is precisely because of her that we are still considered barbarians.
              These are, of course, my subjective observations, but they have to say nasty things to each other's faces in the order of things — there are two options: either answer with a word in person or leave.
              They don’t have an option to get in ryah, which we, for example, have been taught since childhood.
          2. s1н7т
            +3
            18 March 2015 19: 42
            "Maybe look for differences in the exam for the American green beret and our military intelligence of the RF Armed Forces?"

            Long rave, dear? laughing
            What is your relation to the "military intelligence of the RF Armed Forces"?
            "Patriots" will destroy us, definitely! laughing
            1. -1
              18 March 2015 20: 21
              What is your relation to "military intelligence of the RF Armed Forces"
              As a younger brother, namely, the senior gunner of an assault platoon grenade launcher, the 1st GSN had, and went through the forests directly in a combat situation. I saw it with my own eyes on a beret of dark coniferous green, but what about you? laughing
              1. s1н7т
                0
                20 March 2015 18: 09
                Honestly, he doesn’t see this color in the army. The border guards have something like that, but this is not for us.
                We didn't have a "grenade shooter" in the state. Instead of "shooters", everyone had a "scout" - even a grenade launcher, even a radiotelegraph operator, etc. And he usually takes blue - in the Special Forces and some RDR.
                And about "surrender" - run along the "scout path" to begin with, then there will be something to discuss laughing drinks
  8. s1н7т
    +1
    17 March 2015 06: 41
    Hm. So, 11 BPKP disbanded? Cool. And where they shoved the 75th regiment, I did not understand.
    1. +2
      17 March 2015 13: 38
      Quote: c1n7
      So, 11 BPKP disbanded?
      Livelier than all living. 5 AK (Germany)
      1. s1н7т
        0
        18 March 2015 19: 30
        Thanks for the information! hi So alive, smoking room. The author kept silent about him.
  9. Icr
    +5
    17 March 2015 07: 01
    Quote: kuz363
    In addition, physically they are much more athletic than the Russians

    What reality are you dear from?
    1. +2
      17 March 2015 07: 58
      Quote: IcR
      Quote: kuz363
      In addition, physically they are much more athletic than the Russians

      What reality are you dear from?

      From parallel apparently =)
      1. +1
        17 March 2015 16: 07
        Under conditions of a total atomic strike, the number of inhabitants matters only for China and India. And the number of aircraft carriers is becoming, as it were, of third-order importance.
  10. +4
    17 March 2015 07: 02
    mob the potential is great, but they are used to fighting for mani, and for the country of blacks and Latinos you can’t put your heads to bed, and the rest are mostly pampered office plankton, my opinion is that !!!
  11. 0
    17 March 2015 07: 14
    purely out of interest, but can you find out where the military bases, storage bases or military airfields are located?
    1. +1
      17 March 2015 08: 06
      Quote: xorgi
      purely out of interest, but can you find out where the military bases, storage bases or military airfields are located?

      too lazy to google?
    2. +2
      17 March 2015 09: 55
      Quote: xorgi
      purely out of interest, but can you find out where the military bases, storage bases or military airfields are located?

      about aviation storage bases there were two or three articles with photos ...
    3. +3
      17 March 2015 10: 45
      Quote: xorgi
      purely out of interest, but can you find out where the military bases, storage bases or military airfields are located?

      Are you interested in a jumping target? laughing
      But seriously, take a look here:
      http://topwar.ru/68040-yadernye-raketnye-i-aviacionnye-poligony-ssha-na-snimkah-
      google-earth.html

      http://topwar.ru/39748-amerikanskie-strategicheskie-yadernye-sily-i-obekty-pro-n
      a-sputnikovyh-snimkah-google-earth.html
      1. 0
        18 March 2015 06: 53
        Many thanks. But first of all, it’s interesting to know about the location of infantry units.
  12. +1
    17 March 2015 07: 28
    Quote: kuz363
    why do you think that americans are without moral factors? They have them farther than the Russians, because they consider the United States - the most democratic and strong country in the world. What can not be said about the bulk of the Russians. About the comfort of Americans, rumors are greatly exaggerated. In addition, physically they are much more athletic than the Russians. Yes, it remains only to envy such power.
    "

    We have already noticed the moral factors and the power of pins. After the shaving flight of our bomber over their "Donald Cook")))
    1. 0
      17 March 2015 07: 51
      You already got it with this "Cook". One played a fool, the rest picked up. Why did he come to the World Cup again, to measure his pants again?
      1. +3
        17 March 2015 08: 09
        Quote: Samy
        You already got it with this "Cook". One played a fool, the rest picked up. Why did he come to the World Cup again, to measure his pants again?

        the crew of the SU-24 with the "khibins" fooled around, which, having nothing to do, flew from Chelyabinsk to see the Black Sea? wassat fooled the collective of the enterprise in Kaluga, the "khibiny" release, which celebrated the flight of "cook"? wassat
        1. +2
          17 March 2015 11: 22
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          the crew of the SU-24 with the "khibins" made a fool of themselves, which, having nothing to do, flew from Chelyabinsk to see the Black Sea? fooled the collective of the enterprise in Kaluga, the "khibiny" release, which celebrated the flight of "cook"?


          Now the only question is how many Khibiny electronic warfare systems we have and how many Cooks and other things the Americans have.
          It’s not sickly: the Americans are thousands and thousands of kilometers from home in our Russian Black Sea, and in order to scare them we drive Su-24 right from the Urals.

          Hat-making is a guaranteed path to defeat.
          1. +2
            17 March 2015 13: 58
            The Su-24 is not armed with the Khibiny complex. This is a fake, well, or, as they would have said before, a sweet fairy tale. Well, there are no such modifications !!! You would have thought that the Su-24 carries SS-20 pylons.
  13. 0
    17 March 2015 07: 55
    Quote: Samy
    You already got it with this "Cook". One played a fool, the rest picked up. Why did he come to the World Cup again, to measure his pants again?

    Listen to Putin in the film "Crimea. The Way Home", then tryndit who and what picked up.
    1. -10
      17 March 2015 08: 01
      Quote: Bird_in_sky58
      Listen to Putin in the film "Crimea. The Way Home", then tryndit who and what picked up.

      Well, your head between Putin’s legs (on the avatar) as if speaks for everything itself ...
      1. 0
        17 March 2015 10: 01
        Liberal views? or do you want Obama to be in place of Putin and your head? or what?
        1. Robespierre9
          0
          18 March 2015 04: 17
          You were answered correctly in essence (not in form), one person even "Putin" does not solve anything at all cheap servility - the enemy of any objective thought, calling any criticism of the first person liberal views is simply stupid.
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    2. -2
      17 March 2015 08: 03
      Quote: Bird_in_sky58
      Listen to Putin

      The key argument, now get Putin out of existing reality?
    3. +2
      17 March 2015 11: 24
      Quote: Bird_in_sky58
      Listen to Putin in the movie Crimea.

      I will be happy for you! fellow laughing
  14. +11
    17 March 2015 08: 05
    The comments about fighting spirit are troubling. Brovado and the singing of songs about the war in foreign territory passed. Yes, we won, no doubt. But at what cost? Until now, there are demographic echoes, how many people were exterminated and died. Iron should fight, and a living soldier should state the fact of occupation of the territory. I do not mean specialists and special operations, but the training is different there. In a large-scale war, morale will not help stop a missile, even without nuclear weapons, and there is also such a rule and we used it. The soldier's heroism is the commander's mistake, but cornered makes miracles, but why drive? What for the State is feeding a bunch of politicians who should prevent war? Why are there a bunch of generals in the headquarters who only knock out benefits for themselves and wear camouflage only for fishing? The army is needed as a means of preventing war, helping politicians. It is not punishment that is terrible, but the inevitability of punishment !!! This is how to drive generals and politicians into hot heads.
    1. +7
      17 March 2015 09: 31
      Yes, they won, no doubt. But at what cost?
      Dear, the question of price is somewhat incorrect when it comes to such a subject as the Great Patriotic War. Yes, a lot of life and energy was given. But you need to understand, as my grandfather said, a veteran of this very war, what a colossus fell upon us. Do not forget The Wehrmacht also suffered heavy losses. This is the most severe damage that is a consequence of the heroism of our soldiers on the battlefields, and led fascist Germany to collapse.
      1. +4
        17 March 2015 10: 47
        I agree, the word price itself does not fit, you can’t evaluate the sacrifice, but you can and should make CONCLUSIONS. And the conclusions are that the colossus of the United States and Europe will be more painful. And returning and relying on the spirit is not entirely appropriate, so as not to repeat the mistakes. I think people gathered here are already deeply patriotic and there is no need to engage in urapatriotism. Given the data, impressive and correctly given, a serious adversary. My wife’s grandfather, a veteran, died 10 years ago when I saw the iconostasis on his ofigel jacket. He served in the military intelligence, for three years, I never heard slogans from him, but only - he was a serious, trained enemy, cruel. The current one is worse, which is why the task is to build, build, show, and not sing songs. It is worthless to hope for heroism, it’s in the blood of the Russians, I myself have seen it many times and thought and analyzed each case, why I allowed it, why I didn’t do it so as not to bring it to this.
        1. 0
          17 March 2015 13: 20
          And the conclusions are that the colossus of the United States and Europe will be more painful.
          The conclusions are that now the French are neither under Napoleon nor the Germans under Bismarck and the Fuhrer. I am silent about the impudent Saxons. These warriors are bad, they often fight with the wrong hands. Of course, you should not underestimate the enemy, but you should not forget Russian proverb: fear has big eyes.
          And returning and relying on the spirit is not entirely appropriate, so as not to repeat the mistakes.
          It is foolish to trust only in courage, but even more foolishly, not to take into account the decisive importance of the psychological factor in war.
        2. +2
          17 March 2015 13: 45
          I think people gathered here are already deeply patriotic and there is no need to engage in urapatriotism.
          About hurray-patriotism, I can only answer in Russian, if it seems necessary to be baptized. Careful with definitions, my friend.
          1. 0
            18 March 2015 01: 34
            Where did you see the word "seems"? Read the text, dear)) Just trying to be careful with the definitions, my friend, I think and it seems completely different definitions, do not distort. Good luck to you.
            1. Robespierre9
              0
              18 March 2015 04: 22
              This he wrote to himself, that's about it wink :

              The conclusions are that now the French are neither under Napoleon nor the Germans under Bismarck and the Fuhrer. I am silent about the impudent Saxons. These warriors are bad, they often fight with the wrong hands. Of course, you should not underestimate the enemy, but you should not forget Russian proverb: fear has big eyes.
              1. 0
                18 March 2015 13: 17
                My friend, didn’t you take a sip from the flask for an hour?fool
                1. Robespierre9
                  -1
                  18 March 2015 18: 18
                  No, "my friend", hehe.

                  re-read pliz yourself, here is this:

                  Quote: Venier
                  the French either under Napoleon and the Germans under Bismarck and the Fuhrer. I am silent about the impudent Saxons. These warriors are bad, they often fight with the wrong hands.


                  About hurray-patriotism, I can only answer in Russian, if it seems necessary to be baptized. Careful with definitions, my friend.


                  The explanation for the very smart: your message is the same subjective, well, at least, so you can write exactly the same message: it seems (at the expense of the French and Anglo-Saxons) - you need to be baptized.
                  1. 0
                    18 March 2015 22: 48
                    your message is the same subjective
                    Subjectivity does not negate the possibility of objectivity. You should know, my friend.
                    therefore, you can write exactly the same message: it seems (at the expense of the French and Anglo-Saxons) - you need to be baptized.
                    You should not combine other people's phrases spoken on different occasions and having their own specifics. This is not good, you are our combinator.
                    It seems (at the expense of the French and Anglo-Saxons) - it is necessary to be baptized.
                    I am redirecting this to you.
                    1. Robespierre9
                      -1
                      19 March 2015 04: 37
                      Quote: Venier
                      Subjectivity does not negate the possibility of objectivity.


                      The sign of demagoguery removes any objectivity, and you are not a believer? The character's "class" is clearly visible.

                      The subjective is that of the subject, i.e. in a person, as a rule in the head (but not in everyone), objectively - what happens is visual and is repeated many times, experiments there, etc., not what you want (seen there, etc.), not.

                      You wrote - it seemed to you subjectively that you didn’t have to watch it many times, so all that is written by you — your guesses, moreover, if you want to show something objective — give an example from practice, and as close to the time to which you attach your example, because over time, sometimes, everything changes greatly, who was strong - can become weak, due to objective cataclysms like the tyranny wars of alcoholism and other revolutions, and vice versa - someone weak, like the Jews, can eventually become seized around strong.

                      Quote: Venier
                      You should not combine other people's phrases spoken on different occasions and having their own specifics. This is not good, you are our combinator.

                      The specifics of all phrases are the same - something seemed to you, here and here - again something seemed to you.

                      Quote: Venier
                      I am redirecting this to you.

                      You are sick? What could seem to me here? Your ignorance? So it is objective - you just have to read you, you can immediately see a young man of about fifteen who doesn’t really know anything yet, but crawls somewhere, the Internet is anonymous, right?
                      1. 0
                        19 March 2015 04: 42
                        A sign of demagogy removes any objectivity,
                        In your case, for sure.
                      2. 0
                        19 March 2015 04: 51
                        You are sick? What could seem to me here? Your ignorance? So it is objective - you just have to read you, you can immediately see a young man of about fifteen who doesn’t really know anything yet, but is crawling somewhere, the Internet is anonymous, right?
                        And how about you for an hour, you’re not a pimple young man? By your manner, this is clearly visible. In short, as they say, if you have something to say in the case, say it, but if you want to leave, let's go.
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                      5. Robespierre9
                        0
                        23 March 2015 22: 37
                        Hmm, and he is someone "Venir" and ran away, so there wasn’t even a message that it was deleted - it’s not right to do it, I don’t even know how to delete my messages, but he has complete anonymity, as if people were talking to themselves here - they put everyone only complete idiots .. something like that.

                        It’s better to shade them (for example, make them black and white), or minimize them, so that at least the author’s nickname was visible, otherwise it would be inconvenient.
                      6. 0
                        19 March 2015 05: 31
                        The sign of demagoguery removes any objectivity, and you are not a believer? The character's "class" is clearly visible.

                        The subjective is that of the subject, i.e. in a person’s head, objectively, what happens visually and is repeated many times, experiments there, etc., not what you want (seen there, etc.), not.

                        You wrote - it seemed to you subjectively that you didn’t have to watch it many times, so all that is written by you — your guesses, moreover, if you want to show something objective — give an example from practice, and as close to the time to which you attach your example, because over time, sometimes, everything changes greatly, who was strong - can become weak, due to objective cataclysms like the tyranny wars of alcoholism and other revolutions, and vice versa - someone weak, such as Israel, can eventually get hold of everything in the district, become strong.
                        The specifics of all phrases are the same - you have something imagined, and here - again you have something imagined.
                        You are sick? What could seem to me here? Your ignorance? So it is objective - you just have to read you, you can immediately see a young man of about fifteen who doesn’t really know anything yet, but is crawling somewhere, the Internet is anonymous, right?
                        What can I say, Robespierre, you are hopeless. Especially when you consider that you lost your head already in 1794.laughing
                  2. -1
                    18 March 2015 23: 15
                    (at the expense of the French and Anglo-Saxons)
                    You don’t argue with them, you don’t argue with life.
            2. 0
              18 March 2015 13: 15
              Where did you see the word "seems"? Read the text, dear))
              This is not the text, but the proverb Fershtein!
              I’m just trying carefully with definitions, my friend,
              Well, if neatly, then your words about engaging in patriotism are useless.
              I think and it seems completely different definitions,
              What are you saying! Otherwise, we did not know.laughing
              do not distort.
              And you do not jump, trying to directly or indirectly hang your label on a person. Good luck.
      2. -1
        17 March 2015 10: 56
        Yes, I forgot, you leave the address "dear" for the pub))))
        1. +1
          17 March 2015 12: 55
          Yes, I forgot, you leave the address "dear" for the pub))))
          You have forgotten the main thing, "respected" is one of the forms of polite treatment of one person to another. But if you associate this form with a pub, this is already a problem of your perception.hi
          1. 0
            17 March 2015 13: 50
            And put a minus on your forehead, not a ho! You need to think before you minus.
            1. +1
              18 March 2015 00: 52
              you think inadequately, dear))
              1. -1
                18 March 2015 12: 43
                In my opinion, you answered yourself.
      3. 0
        18 March 2015 13: 14
        Wehrmacht suffered losses, but they did not fight for the stupid. They did not send infantry to machine guns without artillery preparation, they did not send day bombing of aircraft like our TB-3 without fighter cover. How many of our soldiers died in different boilers that could have been avoided. The fall of Sevastopol caused by the shortage of 305mm shells that someone ordered to be transported to the port of Poti (read at A. Shirokorad) and the lack of support from the fleet (they were afraid that German aircraft would sink our battleship and other large ships) are separate examples. And Germany, by definition, could not win this war. Now, if Germany had concluded with the USSR not a non-aggression pact, but a military alliance against Western democracies, then the world could have been different.
      4. +1
        18 March 2015 13: 14
        Wehrmacht suffered losses, but they did not fight for the stupid. They did not send infantry to machine guns without artillery preparation, they did not send day bombing of aircraft like our TB-3 without fighter cover. How many of our soldiers died in different boilers that could have been avoided. The fall of Sevastopol caused by the shortage of 305mm shells that someone ordered to be transported to the port of Poti (read at A. Shirokorad) and the lack of support from the fleet (they were afraid that German aircraft would sink our battleship and other large ships) are separate examples. And Germany, by definition, could not win this war. Now, if Germany had concluded with the USSR not a non-aggression pact, but a military alliance against Western democracies, then the world could have been different.
        1. 0
          18 March 2015 16: 13
          How many of our soldiers died in different boilers that could have been avoided.
          And how many losses did the Wehrmacht suffer during the liquidation of these very boilers? You see, it’s one thing to say, yes, but the other thing itself is in such an environment. It is still not known how much you put.
          Wehrmacht suffered losses, but they did not fight for the stupid. They didn’t send infantry to machine guns without artillery training,
          Another myth about skilled Germans and stupid Russians. Actually, there were enough stupidities and mistakes on the German side. You read thoroughly German military memoirs, front notes, numerous memoirs of their officers and soldiers, and many stereotypes you will dispel.
        2. 0
          21 March 2015 09: 42
          Something doesn’t seem like a stupid opponent fought like that.
          In the first months of the campaign, the combat effectiveness of the tank units of Army Group Center was seriously undermined. By September of the 41, 30% of the tanks were destroyed, and 23% of the vehicles were under repair. Almost half of all tank divisions intended to participate in Operation Typhoon had only one third of the original number of combat-ready vehicles. By September 15 of 1941, Army Group Center had a total of 1346 combat-ready tanks, while at the beginning of the campaign in Russia this figure was 2609 units.

          The loss of personnel was no less severe. By the beginning of the attack on Moscow, German units had lost about a third of the officers. The total loss in manpower by this time reached about half a million people, which is equivalent to the loss of 30 divisions. If we take into account that only 64% of the total infantry division, that is, 10840 people, were directly “fighters”, and the remaining 36% were in the rear and auxiliary services, it will become clear that the combat effectiveness of the German troops decreased even more.

          So the situation on the Eastern Front was assessed by one of the German soldiers: “Russia, only bad news comes from here, and we still don't know anything about you. Meanwhile, you absorb us, dissolving us in your inhospitable viscous expanses. ”
    2. +2
      17 March 2015 09: 40
      In a large-scale war, morale will not help stop the rocket, even without nuclear weapons,
      In a large-scale war, fighting spirit helps to withstand and defeat, not to wet underpants and not to abandon all this most sophisticated iron.
      1. 0
        17 March 2015 10: 49
        much more effective - cold calculation and preparation
        1. 0
          17 March 2015 12: 48
          much more effective - cold calculation and preparation
          Weak spirit, neither cold calculation nor preparation will help. I know a lot of such cases when cold-calculating and those who like to work out and prepare in comfortable conditions, turned out to be rags in an extreme situation. No matter how you twist, but without fortitude, that is, certain mental properties , not at all in the war. I tell you this as a person who is engaged in military anthropology, and has devoted several years to the study of the psychological factor in the war.
          1. -1
            18 March 2015 01: 20
            theorists are always held in high esteem)) I went through this in practice. You for yourself just write a portrait of a weak man in spirit, how is it? And how is fortitude achieved? If we are really talking about fortitude, and not about another quality, think about it. And where did you see training in comfortable conditions in our army? Strength of spirit in young people is brought up precisely in the army service, and it reaches a new level precisely in preparation for the defense of the fatherland. If we are talking about a person who did not serve, but who knows according to theory, then fortitude is brought up by other factors. Even a person with weak psychological qualities, under certain circumstances, shows miracles, for you, dear old man or mother, I do not know, you need to know this. Well, not about that now. For me, this discussion is over and I started about something else, apparently distant for you. It is good that I and my subordinates did not come across such military commanders on the way, I think this allowed us to keep the military alive and healthy and at the same time complete the task.
            1. -1
              18 March 2015 12: 17
              It is good that I and my subordinates did not come across such military commanders on the way, I think this allowed us to keep the military alive and healthy and at the same time complete the task.
              I apologize for the expression, but your tone forces me to say, apparently you were well-shocked when doing your tasks.
            2. -1
              18 March 2015 12: 39
              I don’t know what kind of military commander you are, speaking as you know is not a wheel to smear. But the fact that you don’t know how to behave is evident from your answers. But the ancients said, from the beginning, learn to control yourself before commanding others. You should know, my friend or mother, I don’t know who you are, but men usually know how to control themselves.
            3. -1
              18 March 2015 13: 28
              Strength of spirit in young people is brought up precisely in the army service, and it reaches a new level precisely in preparation for the defense of the fatherland.
              Well, and what the hell are you arguing with me then?
              1. 0
                18 March 2015 14: 29
                Yes, and yet, the army is not Goodwin's wizard, they won’t give you a brave heart there. I have never seen and I don’t know any such example when, from a capital coward, a brave man and a strong-willed man would have turned out.
            4. -1
              18 March 2015 13: 58
              For me, this discussion is over and I started about something else, apparently distant for you.
              But I’m always ready to continue, because I know what I'm saying, and not only in theory, dear. But apparently you yourself are far from the whole topic.
            5. -1
              18 March 2015 14: 43
              You for yourself just write a portrait of a weak man in spirit, how is it?
              And sometimes in life you’ll take a closer look, you’ll not meet only one of these.
              And how is fortitude achieved?
              You cannot achieve strength of mind by anything, if the soul is hare.
            6. -1
              18 March 2015 14: 53
              Even a person with weak psychological qualities, under certain circumstances, shows miracles,
              Therefore, all the cowards on the front line, on the assault, you look immediately brave.laughingVis, such a glorious division of yours, someone will run right away.
          2. Robespierre9
            -1
            18 March 2015 04: 26
            The spirit helps in fisticuffs or buhurts, but then they’ll bomb anyone, no spirit will help anyone, what kind of kindergarten. Here tanks, airplanes, electronic warfare, AWACS, no spirit will save if you do not have the latest technology, then you need the right skills, rather than the spirit, just won in the Middle Ages, or in World War I with a bayonet ..
            1. 0
              18 March 2015 12: 11
              We see a lot of comrades here who do not understand at all what they are contesting. Before trindet, carefully read and think about the beginning. And do not list the types of weapons here, you are not Wikipedia.
              1. Robespierre9
                -1
                18 March 2015 18: 32
                Do you want me to dispute subjective substances like "gd"? No, it will not work, only what can be touched objectively. Objectively, the definition of "Spirit" is most easily replaced by the word "patriotism", well, it's like patriotism, only in the Russian manner, don't you agree?

                So, an ordinary engineer (as you put it - "hare") at the air defense console with a "joystick" can perform the task much better, and more efficiently than a cloud of Massai with "khukri" and mines, despite the fact that their Spirit is not nearby lying around with yours and any of the "whites" (suppose - the Massai are cool), There are guys who are more sophisticated than ours - the same Turks, for example, for their country - will strangle themselves, and usually some other guys from different America and Israel usually win. . something like this.

                In general, when I hear tales about the "spirit", I know - a mass slaughter of Russians is being prepared, or has already happened (and it is necessary to cover it up) .. somehow
                1. 0
                  18 March 2015 19: 25
                  (as you put it - "hare")
                  Are we already on you?
                  So, an ordinary engineer (as you put it - "hare") at the air defense console with a "joystick" can perform the task much better, and more efficiently than a cloud of Massai with "khukri" and mines,
                  Brother, play less shooters. It seems that everything is cool in your shooters, you can completely do it without courage - sit and press your buttons and shoot these same Masai with spears. I would look at you in reality how confidently your fingers pressed buttons, and wouldn’t beguile them for an hour, in the absence of this very spirit, that is, courage, with the knowledge that you can be smashed at any time by the same modern means of defeating the enemy. Though you say, but without fortitude, that is courage , not even in ancient times, even in shi. So here you are, our cybernetic.
                  1. Robespierre9
                    -1
                    18 March 2015 23: 08
                    Quote: Venier
                    Brother, play less shooters

                    You got something wrong, go take a walk ..
                    1. -1
                      19 March 2015 04: 54
                      You got something wrong, go take a walk ..
                      It’s time for you to walk for a long time, to ventilate your head.
                2. -1
                  18 March 2015 20: 01
                  Do you want me to dispute subjective substances like "gd"? No, it will not work, only what can be touched objectively.
                  Then all the more, there is nothing to argue, since you are not strong in subtle matters.
                  Objectively, the definition of "Spirit" is most easily replaced by the word "patriotism", well, it's like patriotism, only in the Russian manner, don't you agree?
                  No, I don’t agree. You are mistaken, spirit and patriotism are not replaced by each other, they are different things. Patriotism is an attitude, and spirit is a property.
                3. -1
                  18 March 2015 20: 14
                  There are guys who are more cunning than ours - the same Turks, for example,
                  Well, well, we know these worshipers,laughing beat in history more than once.
                  1. Robespierre9
                    -1
                    18 March 2015 23: 24
                    Quote: Venier
                    Well, well, we know these worshipers, they have beaten in history more than once.

                    Go beat, well, there are a lot of markets there, then you’ll write ..
                    1. -1
                      19 March 2015 04: 57
                      Go beat, well, there are a lot of markets there, then you’ll write ..
                      Che, you’ve got good sides, I sympathize.
                    2. -1
                      19 March 2015 05: 07
                      a lot, then you write ..
                      I can really write a lot, especially since there are enough friends among Caucasians and Türks in general. And I can tell you for sure that they don’t respect people like you. Skher on, hare.
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                4. -1
                  18 March 2015 20: 31
                  In general, when I hear tales about the "spirit", I know - a mass slaughter of Russians is being prepared, or has already happened (and it is necessary to cover it up) .. somehow
                  And when I hear stories about the super-duper of robo-warriors, menacing from the outside and dead inside, I understand that they want to deprive us of the resistance and the very famous Russian stamina, having prepared an unenviable existence.
            2. -2
              18 March 2015 13: 46
              no spirit can save you if you don’t have the latest technology, rather you need the right skills,
              For those who are dull, I’ll say again, no technique will help you if you’re a cowardly hare, including skills. As they say: how many rabbits do not teach, and all the bushes are closer to him.
              in the spirit of the Middle Ages only won, well, or in the First World Bayonet ..
              In any era and in any war, he always won with a stronger spirit. And as for technology and skills, no one even says that you need to fight with sticks and without skills. What are you not quite catching up, my friend.
            3. -1
              18 March 2015 14: 09
              and then they’ll bomb nafig no spirit will help anyone,
              It’s interesting, what made our fighters move forward under fierce fire? Answer yourself, you are our manger.
            4. -1
              18 March 2015 15: 17
              We should advise Shoigu to recruit hares with joysticks in the army.laughing
              1. s1н7т
                0
                21 March 2015 19: 01
                Advise him to write a report on the demobilization better.
  15. +6
    17 March 2015 08: 06
    Let me ask you, since when do we write "US Army" (with a capital letter)? In the rules of the Russian language, this is not, in various regulatory documents too. Do you respect them so much? I can agree and I am deeply convinced that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the Russian Army, the Ground Forces and other names in relation to the Types, Clans, services and even units of the RF Armed Forces, but write with a capital letter the US Army, if you please.
    1. 0
      17 March 2015 09: 50
      Agree. I also thought about it. And in the comments of the trolls full, minuscule bastards. am
      1. +2
        17 March 2015 11: 29
        Quote: Bird_in_sky58
        . And in the comments full of trolls, minus bastards.


        Rules

        General rules of conduct on the site:

        To begin with, hundreds of people, different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full visitors of our site, ....
        On our site you need to behave respectful to all site visitors. No insults to the participants, it is always superfluous ....
  16. +2
    17 March 2015 08: 19
    Delivery and landing of troops to the coast is assigned to 30 landing ships of several types, including 1 ship of the Tarawa project and 8 of the type San Antonio.

    Well, then USS Peleliu (LHA-5) (Tarawa class) has been living out its last days, as soon as USS America (LHA-6) enters the fleet, they will immediately be sent to the reserve.
    It is strange that the monsters of the Wasp type in the amount of eight ships were ignored, so they will be more than San Antonio ...
    over the past few years, three Littoral Combat Ship class ships have been built. Two are built on a project with the symbol Independence, one on the project Freedom.

    Somewhat outdated data. 2 types of Independence and 2 types of Freedom are already in the fleet, moreover, 3 LCSs of Independence type (extreme USS Gabrielle Giffords (LCS-10) launched on February 25, 2015) and 2 Freedom are already launched.
  17. +4
    17 March 2015 08: 35
    In addition, the United States possesses at least one of the best armies in the world.
    And as a maximum, the most gluttonous army in the world.
  18. +2
    17 March 2015 09: 00
    ... and also 8 Seawolf type submarines
    mistake, built the same current 3
  19. +4
    17 March 2015 09: 01
    Quote: Nayhas
    Quote: Bird_in_sky58
    Listen to Putin in the film "Crimea. The Way Home", then tryndit who and what picked up.

    Well, your head between Putin’s legs (on the avatar) as if speaks for everything itself ...

    Actually, this is Obama’s head) Buy yourself glasses =)
    1. Robespierre9
      -1
      18 March 2015 04: 33
      You cannot think beyond two strictly polar categories, I think, right? laughing
  20. +3
    17 March 2015 09: 03
    Enrage comments:
    s - dicky warriors, the main thing is fighting spirit, but they don’t have it (an example from the Black Sea). They only cut saws, etc.
    1. +2
      17 March 2015 09: 44
      Yes they are handsome! laughing
      1. +7
        17 March 2015 11: 34
        Quote: Bird_in_sky58
        Yes they are handsome!

        If you had such an opportunity and served conscript service, then, I assure you, you would have an abundance of examples of "handsomeness" in our Armed Forces.
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          1. s1н7т
            0
            21 March 2015 19: 14
            Do not touch your caps! The current ones, of course, resemble monkeys, but I liked the Soviet ones. Which were made on a foreign order. Not "airfields", of course.
      2. Robespierre9
        +1
        18 March 2015 04: 36
        Well, yes, to steal someone else’s picture like a monkey and give it as a joke, is that in our opinion? (Self-irony is a sign of strength, not weakness, in fact, it is here that the self-irony of Amers on themselves .. grief to idiots, grief)
  21. 0
    17 March 2015 09: 03
    Something alone ukro-trolls gathered, praise s, sick)))
    1. +2
      17 March 2015 10: 53
      In my opinion you have hallucinations. Just like the Ukrainians, those also everywhere you know what it seems.

      Dear, this is not the site for trolling. With this approach, you can go to any Ukrainian site or EchoMsk and the like.
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  22. +1
    17 March 2015 09: 40
    Quote: saag
    Quote: Bird_in_sky58
    Listen to Putin

    The key argument, now get Putin out of existing reality?

    Why should I clean Putin? He is cool! I'd rather take you away - I don't like you =)
    1. -2
      17 March 2015 09: 45
      Quote: Bird_in_sky58
      Why should I clean Putin? He is cool!

      For the sake of completeness, what’s cool there is probably how he approves the work of the government and the Central Bank, or are you dragging on his picture?
      1. -2
        17 March 2015 09: 56
        For the sake of completeness, it is worth removing the Omerian puppets, first of all, eggs, corpse and petka, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Soros and other Russophobes. And breathing will become easier on planet Earth.
        1. 0
          17 March 2015 10: 11
          Quote: Bird_in_sky58
          For the sake of completeness, it is worth removing the Omerian puppets, the first thing is the egg, the corpse and the pet, the Rothschilds

          Remove the Rothschilds? How will Putin remove his "roof"?
        2. dmb
          +3
          17 March 2015 10: 14
          So they would do it instead of distributing vulgar photographs. You are judging by the text of the lady’s comments, so your avatar says a lot, including the possibility of visiting the above on a call.
          1. -4
            17 March 2015 10: 28
            dmb, on call - this applies to you, praaative, you don’t let me down, the broth of all)
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          2. Robespierre9
            0
            18 March 2015 04: 55
            Yes, this is a troll to the campaign - do not touch it wassat.
      2. +1
        17 March 2015 10: 21
        Quote: saag
        To complete the picture, and what's cool ...




        Do you, like every self-respecting libiroid, think that everything good in the country happens by itself, and Putin is to blame for everything else? You do not know how the government was formed until the last minute allotted by the law and who owns the Central Bank since the beginning of perestroika?
        1. +3
          17 March 2015 13: 43
          Quote: Boris55
          You, like every self-respecting libiroid

          Well, there are no greater liberoids than supporters of GDP and cannot be



          Quote: Boris55
          that everything good in the country happens by itself, and Putin is to blame for everything else?

          Do you want us to believe that all the good in the country is due to Putin (Well, my son was born, should I praise Putin for that? Damn it two! He’s absolutely nothing to do with it), but everyone is to blame for everything bad just not UNLIMITED FOR 15 years the head? This is not serious.

          Quote: Boris55
          You do not know how the government was formed until the last minute allotted by the law

          I do not know, enlighten.

          I am aware that according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President
          a) Appoints with the consent of the State Duma of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation;
          b) Decides on the resignation of the Government of the Russian Federation;
          d) is State Duma candidacy for appointment Chairman of the Central Bank Russian Federation; puts before the State Duma dismissal Chairman of the Central Bank Russian Federation;
          e) upon the proposal of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation appoints and dismisses deputy chairmen of the Government of the Russian Federation, federal ministers;
          f) is Council of the Federation of candidacy for the appointment of judges of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation; appoints judges of other federal courts;
          e.1) is The Council of the Federation shall nominate candidates for the appointment of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation and Deputy Prosecutors General of the Russian Federation; submits to the Federation Council proposals on dismissal of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation and deputies of the General Prosecutor of the Russian Federation; appoints and dismisses prosecutors of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, as well as other prosecutors, except for prosecutors of cities, districts and equivalent prosecutors;

          And also.

          President of the Russian Federation in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws defines the main directions of domestic and foreign policy of the state

          Quote: Boris55
          and who owns the Central Bank

          Well, tell me who owns the Central Bank?
          Do not forget to back up your, I hope fascinating, story with links to the laws of the Russian Federation.
          1. 0
            17 March 2015 16: 31
            Quote: Normal
            ... UNCHANGED THROUGH 15-years leader ...

            Shiftless for 15 years - how is it? Was there a violation of the Constitution, and the swamp was neither rumor nor spirit? belay

            Quote: Normal
            I am aware that according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President

            A lot of things are written on the fence, but life is much more interesting and it is not possible to fit into the framework of laws.
            The bourgeois of the 90's have not gone anywhere. It is pointless to deny the presence of the 5 column. The composition of the government is the result of a compromise of the clans, and only then compliance with the formalities for submitting candidates to the Duma, etc.

            I hope that you do not believe that with the election of a new president, say Zyuganov, and the replacement of portraits of the old president with a new one somewhere in the administration of Uryupinsk, all local authorities will immediately unearth their party cards and all together all their overworked property will list to the fund for the children of the starving Volga ...

            Quote: Normal
            Well, tell me who owns the Central Bank?
            Do not forget to back up your, I hope fascinating, story with links to the laws of the Russian Federation.

            All on the shelves:

            1. 0
              17 March 2015 16: 55
              Quote: Normal
              Well, tell me who owns the Central Bank?

              What does a person who has worked in the Central Bank for 10 years thinks?

            2. +3
              18 March 2015 01: 06
              Quote: Boris55
              Shiftless for 15 years - how is it?

              That's how. No need to fool around. Or do you seriously consider DAM an independent politician and think that Putin left their authorities for four years?
              Quote: Boris55
              There was a violation of the Constitution,

              Formally, no. But in essence - a mockery of the meaning of restricting one’s stay in power for no more than two consecutive terms. Putin didn’t leave the government and in fact already fourth term in a row.

              Quote: Boris55
              A lot of things are written on the fence, but life is much more interesting and it is not possible to fit into the framework of laws.

              Clear. It is known to whom the law is not written.

              Quote: Boris55
              The bourgeois of the 90's have not gone anywhere. It is pointless to deny the presence of the 5 column.

              Oh really? But what about lifting from the knees? Salvation from collapse, curbing the oligarchs and other enthusiastic pro-government vocabulary?

              Quote: Boris55
              It is pointless to deny the presence of the 5 column. The composition of the government is the result of a compromise of the clans, and only then compliance with the formalities for submitting candidates to the Duma, etc.

              But what about the powerful clan of the siloviki-statesmen? They are there for what? For furniture? Or maybe they are for one with the bourgeois 90's? Then what is the meaning of the government of GDP? BUT?
              And I'll tell you - IN CONTINUING THE ECONOMIC POLICY OF 90's, in the permanent possession of the highest power and the use of all this for personal selfish purposes.
            3. 0
              18 March 2015 01: 15
              Quote: Boris55
              All on the shelves:

              "Who owns the CENTROBANK and the RUBLE of Russia"


              Thank you.

              A great example of demagoguery, a substitution of meanings and general brains for people with a lack of critical thinking.

              What does Voitenkov do? Attempts to fit arguments to a predefined result. But there are essentially no arguments.
              Therefore, for ostensibly clarity, he quotes the Constitution of the Russian Federation and Federal Law of July 10.07.2002, 86 N 29.12.2014-FZ (as amended on December XNUMX, XNUMX) "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)" and accompanies this with his commentaries and interpretations.
              The essence of the interpretation is either to sow doubt in the provisions of the law, or to pervert the meaning of what was said in the law, or to replace it with the exact opposite of what is indicated in black and white in the law.
              Voitenkov begins, according to the rules of propaganda, right off the bat - he immediately throws the seed, the first phrase. If you believe in it, then you are already on the hook, then you will believe in everything else that he says, no matter what nonsense he says.
              Therefore, the first phrase should be as truthful as possible, or at least as true as possible.
              "Today, quite a lot of people already know that the Federal Reserve System that issues dollars is not really subordinate to the US government."Believe it? Of course! Who does not know this? The bait is seized and the hook follows immediately:" A logical question arises: who then owns the Central Bank of Russia, the state, or is it also independent?"

              Did you notice the substitution? No? So here it is - "THE FRS DOESN'T OBEY TO THE US GOVERNMENT," and the Central Bank already "BELONGS TO WHOM". Behind this substitution, a more hidden task is no longer even visible. To find it, you need to ask yourself why is this a LEGAL question? AND? Yes, only because the author of the video must now, before presenting at least any justification, ALREADY bind the FRS and the Central Bank in the minds of listeners.
              So, from the first phrases you find yourself in a deliberately set trap. Further, all supposedly arguments will be tailored to this theory, which was originally lying in your subconscious, the CENTROBANK belongs to the Fed.

              UNDERSTANDABLY?
              Something like NLP, only much more effective.

              About the Katason movie, be it the next time. hi
  23. +6
    17 March 2015 10: 13
    The numbers are impressive, and this is definitely not completely reliable data, in reality most likely more. The American military machine is a large and formidable force, its potentialities are much higher than that of the Russian Federation now. Their factories were not plundered in the 90s, they were subjected to a maximum of conservation. since 2006, only the F-35 has been produced more than 2000 thousand units. Since 1995, Abrams have not been produced at all, they have only been modernized, but they are still at least several thousand in combat condition. in the event of a war, it will of course be problematic to start producing them in commercial quantities, but the United States is not focusing on tanks, but on aviation and drones. I understand the patriotic impulse that we will "tear everyone apart" like Hitler, but at what cost was the victory in the 40s given? tens of millions of killed and wounded. Imagine what will happen in the 21st century? Russia is superior to the United States in some ways, for example, in tanks and armored vehicles, in air defense systems we are also the best. But there are enough shortcomings in the Russian army. Shouts about how we with matches, AK74 and a grenade will defeat all are frivolous. You can only win with modern weapons, trained army and navy. In general, a bad peace is better than a good war.
    1. +1
      17 March 2015 15: 11
      More than 2000 thousand pieces of F-35 !!!
      This is you bent. I counted about 190 pieces. It is made.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II
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    3. 0
      18 March 2015 13: 31
      I agree, but where did the F-35 in the amount of 2000 pieces come from, they didn’t even really implement it.
    4. 0
      18 March 2015 13: 31
      I agree, but where did the F-35 in the amount of 2000 pieces come from, they didn’t even really implement it.
  24. -4
    17 March 2015 10: 23
    Quote: saag
    Quote: Bird_in_sky58
    For the sake of completeness, it is worth removing the Omerian puppets, the first thing is the egg, the corpse and the pet, the Rothschilds

    Remove the Rothschilds? How will Putin remove his "roof"?

    Are you in the 6th, with Napoleon together? drinks
  25. -2
    17 March 2015 10: 58
    Quote: Vadim237
    In the Navy, we are losing them a lot.

    Uh-huh, "losing") Don't tell me already. The Yankees are shaking only at the mention of Russian nuclear submarines, which cannot be detected by anything. I will modestly keep silent about the rest.
    1. +3
      17 March 2015 14: 09
      Quote: Bird_in_sky58
      I humbly keep silent about the rest.

      Yes, it’s better to keep silent about everything. Your knowledge of the military sphere is, apparently, negative. Your comments are boorish in fact and on the verge of a foul.
      Silence better - get off the smart ... maybe ...
      Although...
  26. -2
    17 March 2015 11: 11
    Quote: ivanzu87
    In my opinion you have hallucinations. Just like the Ukrainians, those also everywhere you know what it seems.

    Dear, this is not the site for trolling. With this approach, you can go to any Ukrainian site or EchoMsk and the like.

    I'm not "dear" to you, my friend. So you address your other half. And read the liberoid Mr. yourself, you are our hallucinogenic.
    1. +3
      17 March 2015 12: 30
      Unlike you, I do not suffer from hallucinations, so fire.
      The trolls from Ukraine seem to you around every corner.

      And your pseudo-patriotism just touches.
  27. +2
    17 March 2015 11: 58
    "Uh-huh," we are losing ") Don't make me laugh. The Yankees are shaking only at the mention of Russian nuclear submarines, which they cannot detect with anything. I will modestly keep silent about the rest."

    Finally kapets. Some people’s knowledge is overwhelming. About a serious lag in our underwater technology in terms of noiselessness and acoustic search capabilities here have been written more than once, including specialists who swam and developed it. The fact that at almost every exit to the stern of our boats their hunters landed and it was very difficult to break away, this can also be read. Well, the last ... anaerobic plants. Where are ours?
  28. +1
    17 March 2015 12: 10
    article is good. I would also like to read about some armies
  29. +5
    17 March 2015 14: 53
    Of course the numbers are impressive! The main thing is the impressive potential of the US military-industrial complex. but there are moments in the US Army that I personally think are exaggerated.
    1. The budget of the us army. We all know that it is the largest, but here they use the money extremely inefficiently. Associated spending eats up the lion's share without bringing superior quality. In other words, Americans love all sorts of beautiful futuristic and expensive guns, with fighting qualities similar to those of an old AK.
    2. Number and mobilization reserve. The United States and NATO are simply not able to concentrate such a huge group within our borders. Plus, do not forget that the United States and NATO have many enemies in all parts of the planet.
    3. Defense industry. The capacities of the US military-industrial complex are very high, but the question is where for the US military-industrial complex to take natural resources ?????, to carry on ships or by air ????? and if you cut the supply chain? The US military-industrial complex will not be able to meet the needs of the army and navy in a protracted conflict with a high intensity of losses. Moreover, the number of manufactures in the USA (factories) is not so great.
    4. Excellence in science and the quality of weapons systems. Bluff!!! The United States is mostly stuck in the 90's. There is nothing qualitatively new and revolutionary !!!! Robotic systems are not perfect, and their application at this stage is very difficult. This is the only UAV, but the key has already been selected for this problem.
    American microcircuits perfectly fail under the influence of radiation and electronic warfare.
    5. The US economy and its GDP. Jeans, lawyers, psychoanalysts and Coca-Cola will not help much in the war)))) And we must not forget that the population and army need to be fed. Who will feed the USA? China? Canada?
    1. Robespierre9
      0
      18 March 2015 05: 06
      Quote: JonnyT
      1. The budget of the us army. We all know that it is the largest, but here they use the money extremely inefficiently.

      Yawning - and the Russians drink vodka with the bears, and play non-stop on their balalaikas - about the same conclusions follow when you look at other people's capitals.
  30. +1
    17 March 2015 15: 45
    Allow me! They don’t need to carry anything, they have everything with their rare exception. Last year, they even began to export petroleum products. Their grubs were piled up, no need to be transported from anywhere. Excellence in science bluffing? This you probably do not know at all ... Their electronics have no equal, their spacecraft have been working in space for decades (and this is the quality of products and the quality of technologies), their industrial chemistry, materials science have gone very far from us. We do not produce even a quarter of the materials that the States mass-produce. US Economy - Do You Speak Jeans? The production of civilian aircraft - 60 a month (we have a good pair), shipbuilding, automotive, machine tool manufacturing, electronics and so on and so forth ... And we successfully sold our ..... ..... we are now collecting it in pieces.
    1. +1
      17 March 2015 17: 04
      eh ... unfortunately we cannot disagree with you ...
      The lag in high technology is significant: Machine tool industry, shipbuilding, automotive industry, microelectronics, etc.
      What can we compete with: Energy (nuclear energy), Rocket building (aerospace), a small part of Shipbuilding (Nuclear Icebreakers) is probably all. Glad if anyone adds.
    2. erg
      +2
      17 March 2015 17: 50
      Here their electronics are highly dependent on China. The functioning of electronic systems requires beryllium-based alloys (contacts, switches, etc.), and China is the largest exporter of beryllium in the United States. In 2011, he suspended supplies and panic began in the US and Europe. Fines were imposed on China (he is a member of the WTO). But the attempts made to find a replacement for alloys, as well as attempts at secondary use, have not yet been crowned with success.
      1. Robespierre9
        +1
        18 March 2015 05: 09
        What, there is no beryllium all over the world? It seems like nonsense.
  31. +1
    17 March 2015 15: 48
    It is necessary to introduce a refinement. The American army is one of the best armies in the world for equipment, but what about personnel this is far from always the case !!!
  32. 0
    17 March 2015 16: 33
    Quote: pgubeev
    And why doesn’t such a patriot ride Lada Kalina?

    Because he is a patriot, not idiot.
  33. +3
    17 March 2015 16: 49
    I wonder what is the purpose of the appearance of such an article on the site? Apparently, check for "lousy" readers, judging by the fact that the people simply got over with each other. By the way, about patriotism. If the reader is young and ardent (hurray-patriot, as he is called here) - there is nothing terrible in this, wisdom will come with age. It is worse when, in the presence of age, patriotism is completely absent. One friend worked in India for a long time, lived there with his family. Reading the local children's literature to my son and daughter, I drew attention to an obvious absurdity like "the Indian elephant is the largest elephant in the world." In a conversation with an Indian colleague, he asked the question: "Why do they write this, because any educated person knows that the African elephant is larger?" To which the Hindu replied: "Yes, that's fair. When a child grows up, he will definitely know it, but he must grow up feeling proud of his country!" Something like that. You should not spread rot on young people for their jingoistic patriotism, even if at first glance it causes irritation.
    1. Robespierre9
      -2
      20 March 2015 04: 41
      Quote: Bully
      "Why do they write this, because any educated person knows that the African elephant is larger?" To which the Hindu replied: "Yes, that's fair. When a child grows up, he will definitely know this, but he must grow up feeling proud of his country!"

      Eastern mentality, in our country it is rather "poor, but honest", and I am immensely happy about that, a child will grow up on such a corny liar, and in fact will never know the truth.
  34. -3
    17 March 2015 16: 53
    Well, as for the personnel, this is far from always so !!!
    Indeed, this is far from always the case, and this is why the Americans are actually a minority in the United States Army. The majority are green cards — foreigners who immigrated to the United States. And in order to obtain American citizenship, they joined the US Army. And they are not eager to maintain the honor of their uniforms. A typical American soldier looks like this: years 25, first of all Latinos or Negro, often bespectacled, as a large percentage of those with vision problems.
    1. -1
      18 March 2015 21: 16
      Your cons do not change anything.
      1. Robespierre9
        0
        20 March 2015 04: 43
        Of course, especially if you are - go. laughing
        1. 0
          20 March 2015 09: 47
          Of course, especially if you are - go.
          You know that by yourself. laughinglaughing
  35. +4
    17 March 2015 17: 14
    I read the comments and was horrified. We started with the us army, and then turned to individuals, this is too much. The us army is big, there are a lot in it, all this will not be fought many times. Fighting is undoubtedly important, and it was always high in of the Russian Army, under the kings, under Stalin, and now. Well, whoever does not believe in our Army, well, be laughed at by the lads.
  36. 0
    17 March 2015 18: 35
    The correct and necessary article! Respect to the author good
    And no matter how new an essay on weapons, so "urya-patriots and shapkozakidateli" climb out with their "who have no analogs in the world" and "we all do not want to."
    Bravo Cyril, let them now move their brains, and try to learn how to analyze.
    ZY Will there be a similar article on the "southern neighbors"? I would very much like to.
    1. +3
      18 March 2015 11: 59
      I want to add: American tactics are well known. First they
      achieve complete dominance in the air. First things first
      long and hard, sparing no means and time, air defense, radars, and fighter
      enemy aircraft. Then they thoroughly deal with strategic objects:
      military factories, bases, warehouses. And only then ground forces
      begin to slowly advance. Once run into
      strong resistance, slightly abandon back and cause an assault or
      bomber aircraft. Then they move on. Etc.

      Under the bombardment with precision bombs, no spirit of warriors helps. Modern
      a high explosive concrete bomb, breaking through the middle of the roof, explodes at 15 m below
      foundation (solid concrete bunkers break through). Bunkers are also destroyed
      and underground communications and the floors themselves.
      Almost no one survives (or gets seriously injured). Can be 20 times
      a hero and a patriot - a bomb is not interesting.

      Therefore, you can only rely on the numerous modern fighter
      aviation. Everything else (in a conventional war) against the Americans - dead
      poultices.
      1. 0
        18 March 2015 21: 00
        Under the bombardment with precision bombs, no spirit of warriors helps. Modern
        a high explosive concrete bomb, breaking through the middle of the roof, explodes at 15 m below
        foundation (solid concrete bunkers break through). Bunkers are also destroyed
        and underground communications and the floors themselves.
        Almost no one survives (or gets seriously injured). Can be 20 times
        a hero and a patriot - a bomb is not interesting.
        Unlike you, even mattresses understand that in war, you always need courage and courage.
        The army is not for everyone. If you are not sure, fear - it is better to stay at home. We do not need cowards and cowards. The army is hard work, trips to war, injuries and trials.
        This is an explanation from a specialized site about the service in the American army, for the Russian-speaking population.
        1. Robespierre9
          -1
          19 March 2015 04: 18
          "Courage and courage" is to smash the forehead of chtoli in the church, right? Well, this is definitely not going to help you, well, unless you run away there, some of the enemies of the church do not bomb, at first, and then you look at traitors, well, like Vlasov .. "Brave" like these do just that ..

          And all ordinary people in the first place rely on training and technical superiority, you can be brave any way, but against a plane with a tomahawk (an Indian’s ax, not a rocket), this will never bring victory.
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          2. 0
            19 March 2015 08: 19
            "Courage and courage" is to smash the forehead of chtoli in the church, right?
            And you do not touch believers, among them there are many, much more worthy than you.
            Well, unless you run away there, some of the enemies of the church do not bomb, at first, and then you look at traitors, well, like Vlasov .. "Brave" like these do just that ..
            I have no doubt that you will do so, a cowardly nature always draws to betrayal. But the brave ones will fight to the end and no matter what.
            And all ordinary people in the first place rely on training and technical superiority, you can be brave any way, but against a plane with a tomahawk (an Indian’s ax, not a rocket), this will never bring victory.
            All ordinary good fighters have sufficient courage, training, and are well armed as far as possible. All our great commanders always believed in the staunchness and courage of the Russian soldier, and this faith was always justified. But it’s obvious to you that I’ve got half a head. briefly and extremely clearly: to be courageous and courageous does not mean to be stupid. I have many in my family and among friends with qualities such as courage and courage who have gone through various wars and hot spots. Something I have never heard from them, about throws on tanks with axes and on machine guns with bare hands. If you have the courage associated with recklessness, this is your problem.hi
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                20 March 2015 10: 17
                Well then hold on, you cowardly nature ...
                They don’t judge people by themselves. From your comments you can clearly see that you are a rotten, suspicious nature that traitors seem to be everywhere. I know from my grandfather that there were such zealous special women in the war that they plagued quite a few good people just because they seemed They aren’t trustworthy. You would have come out of the same excellent specialist Mr. Ida.
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  37. kelevra
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    17 March 2015 19: 48
    To be honest, I have little objectivity in the article. By the nature of my activity, I know the US Army very well and I can assure you that I would not wish anyone with such problems with everything! Why this article is not clear Feeling as if the author took data on the US Army many years ago and laid out simple here!
  38. +2
    17 March 2015 21: 23
    Curious! That on VO there are so few comments regarding the army of the most "probable enemy". Not "urya, not everything is gone." Do they not believe in a "big" war? I served as an emergency in the air defense in the 70s and I remember real combat alerts, not training ones.
    In connection with the tragedy in Ukraine, my mother often says - "if only there was no war." Why did our elders say so? And the war has already come to us. People are dying in Donbass. Yes, this is a different state now, but this is our land, our history. And they have already come to Russia. Where they cannot with weapons, they fight with money and "liberals". No need to relax.
  39. +4
    17 March 2015 22: 30
    Such military units as 3 army corps (1 airborne) are not even mentioned, then the general arms divisions (formations) are usually indicated, then there are no separate units (brigades, regiments), MTRs.
    The 2nd and 3rd cavalry regiments are responsible for conducting reconnaissance in the interests of the ground forces ...

    Nonsense, these are combined arms formations, formerly armored cavalry (Cavalry - the traditional name), now both regiments are reorganized into separate motorized (motorized infantry) Stryker brigades.
    ... as well as 3 reconnaissance brigades.

    Military intelligence brigades, reconnaissance in them, is only one of 3-4 battles (including a deep intelligence company), the rest are technical units. Wed-in intelligence, i.e. air incl. drones (UAVs), radio intelligence (RR), radio engineering (RTR), radar (RLR), electronic warfare (EW), undercover component (including military interrogation and counterintelligence). The task is intelligence gathering and analysis.
    The landing troops are represented by three large units. This is the 82nd and 101st divisions, as well as the 173rd brigade.

    What kind of landing troops, where does the unit? Airborne formations and units are represented by the 82nd Division and the 173rd Division. brigade respectively. There are no Airborne Forces in the USA, as a type of troops - infantry. The 101st Air Assault Division is an airmobile unit (AIRBORNE - the traditional name, as it was formed as an airborne landing).
    There are ...

    Distinguish between individual units and subunits 1) combat and 2) rear support, i.e. two categories, army, or corps subordination, for example, separate artillery and helicopter brigades, are capable of overlapping / controlling areas (front) that are significant in width and area; the company’s motorized rifle, or mobile rifle tactical groups, may turn out to be auxiliary.
    There are 12 helicopter brigades in the regular army (110-116 helicopters each), not two, 10 in the divisions.
    After the logistic brigades - is this a civilian artel? (MTO - mat-tehnich. Providing / I - rear support.), I did not look further.
    1. Robespierre9
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      18 March 2015 05: 21
      Quote: k_ply
      What kind of landing troops, where does the unit? Airborne formations and units are represented by the 82nd Division and the 173rd Division. brigade respectively. There are no Airborne Forces in the USA, as a type of troops - infantry. The 101st Air Assault Division is an airmobile unit (AIRBORNE - the traditional name, as it was formed as an airborne landing).

      You are wrong, there are all listed "Airborne" Air-Assault there was "1st Cavalry", which is now just a heavy armored one, amers do not have such a strict division into Airborne Forces / DShV, here they are all like airborne in the first place described:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_assault
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        18 March 2015 12: 19
        What is wrong that all 3 of the listed AIRBORNE formations? In my opinion, this is only a discovery for you, which you are in a hurry to share. 101st - NOT an airborne landing, which is not yet clear, or is it crookedly written? :
        Quote: k_ply
        There are no Airborne Forces in the USA, as a type of troops - infantry. The 101st Air Assault Division is an airmobile unit (AIRBORNE - the traditional name, as it was formed as an airborne landing).

        And here the 1st armored cavalry, now armored ("heavy"), is that a historical article about the US Army? you just have to argue about what.
        And this is in Russia there is no such strict division Airborne forces for airborne and airborne assault units, tk. the entire aircraft undergoes mandatory paratrooper training. Trminological inventions and nonsense like "DShВ"do not mention at all, sometimes it is conventionally used - airmobile troops.
        1. Robespierre9
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          19 March 2015 05: 59
          Quote: k_ply
          What is wrong that all 3 of the listed AIRBORNE formations?

          Airborne is the Airborne Troops, assault - Air Assault.


          Quote: k_ply
          And here the 1st armored cavalry, now armored ("heavy"), is that a historical article about the US Army? you just have to argue about what.

          Features of the enemy terminology. Cavalry can be anything from motorized riflemen to tanks and Assault Marines. 1st Cavalry played a big role during the Vietnam War, where they were the first to actively use helicopter landing tactics in the United States, see for example the Bell helicopter landing at Coppola in his film "Apocalypse Now", it was these guys who flew there :

          "In mid-1968, the Army created a second Airmobile division (the other being the 1st cavalry Division) "What is this second Division, guess? laughing

          Here's what's on their head in the movie:

          1. +1
            19 March 2015 20: 59
            Quote: Robespierre9
            Airborne is the Airborne Troops, assault - Air Assault.

            Are you really impassable, or pretending to be, or just not reading ?:
            Quote: k_ply
            There are no Airborne Forces in the USA, as a type of troops - infantry. The 101st Air Assault Division is an airmobile unit (AIRBORNE - the traditional name, as it was formed as an airborne landing).

            Airborne = Airborne
            air assault = Air Assault
            Have you tried to throw the lever down?
            Quote: Robespierre9
            Features of enemy terminology. Anyone can be cavalry, from motorized infantry to tanks and assault paratroopers.

            But is it not written about this? :
            Quote: k_ply
            ... the former armored cavalry (Cavalry - the traditional name), now both regiments are reorganized into separate motorized (motorized infantry) Stryker brigades.

            The traditional name - this means that it was preserved for the unit, part, compound.
            Quote: Robespierre9
            The 1st Cavalry played a large role during the Vietnam War, where they were the first to actively use helicopter landing tactics in the United States, see for example the Bell helicopter landing at Coppola in his film Apocalypse Now.

            Quote: k_ply
            In my opinion, this is only a discovery for you, which you are in a hurry to share.

            Quote: k_ply
            And here the 1st armored cavalry, now armored ("heavy"), is that a historical article about the US Army? you just have to argue about what.

            My young friend, well, you can't be so pretentious, thinking that you alone watched the film and saw the emblem of the 1st Cavalry Division. It is strange that the movie "We Were Soldiers" is not mentioned by the movie lover.
            Quote: Robespierre9
            What is this second division, guess?

            I would know this wrote who now looks.
            Adjes!
            1. Robespierre9
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              20 March 2015 04: 23
              Well, you are misapplying the terminology of a likely adversary:
              Quote: k_ply
              Nonsense, these are combined arms formations, formerly armored cavalry (Cavalry - the traditional name), now both regiments are reorganized into separate motorized (motorized infantry) Stryker brigades.

              They are NOT the former, they are exactly CAVALERIAN, you need to distinguish between your own terminological base and the enemy, they do not change their names as we (the USSR), especially those who have got a lot of regalia - zapadlo-with them, they want everything to be the same as before, with all the regalia and merit of the Cavalry and other motorized riflemen, this is only ours - "to disassemble and divide", they do not, will not work, traditions, sir.

              Further, Airborne FORCE, this is exactly what the FORCE, here, look:

              "The Soviet Union maintained the world's largest airborne strength during the Cold War, consisting of seven airborne divisions and a training division. The VDV was subordinated directly to the Ministry of Armed Forces of USSR, and was a 'prestige service' in the armed forces of the USSR and Russia to reflect its strategic purpose. Recruits received much more rigorous training than ordinary Soviet units. Unlike most airborne forces, which are a light infantry force, VDV has evolved into a fully mechanized parachute-deployed force thanks to its use of BMD-series light IFVs, BTR-D armored carriers, 2S9 Nona self-propelled 120 mm gun-howitzer -mortars and 2S25 Sprut-SD 125 mm tank destroyers. "

              No "Airborne Voyska", only Forces (This is a joke, funny - hehe, if that.laughing )

              Further, they do not have "awe" before the Airborne Forces, as we do, so they can afford to write the Airborne Forces (Airborne), and in parentheses some (Air Cavalry or Air Assault), this is only "nobody but us" and you at least break into a cake, but don't let the coveted airborne forces be detached from you, and vice versa - stick it to someone who is even slightly different from yourself (well, there is a cap, not that one, a vest of the wrong color, well, etc.)

              By the way, 1st Cavalry is the most "eminent" (awarded) division they have, and in the film it is not just like that - it is something like our airborne forces, only in a slightly different form.

              Quote: k_ply
              I would know this wrote who now looks.

              The second is 101st Division, Airborne. By the way, the fact that they don’t have such an awe in front of parachutes is actually good for them, because allowed a more painless transition from tactics of parachute surges to the tactics of a normal landing from a helicopter, which is much better actually.
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                21 March 2015 12: 00
                Quote: Robespierre9
                They are NOT former, they are exactly CAVALERY, it is necessary to distinguish between the terminological base of their own and the enemy ...

                Aha! cavalry blah. Listen to yourself, Sharikov, it's time to shut up, learn to understand and listen, and then you will climb out with amendments, he was going to teach military terminology - "DShВ"(!), you can't even see the difference between the emblems of regiments and combat arms and where they are worn. The topic of the article is not about the history of their armed forces, but about their current state, and what kind of nonsense about some kind of" trepidation ", our and American mentality perception of something there?
                Now my short-sighted obsessive Pathfinder, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_United_States_Army#Maneuver.2C_Fir
                es_and_Effects_.28MFE.29_Branches_and_Functional_Areas

                "Amer Airborne Forces" were found, no?
                Cavalry - listed as the forerunner of armored forces (Armor).
                I will explain again. Both historically (leg.) Cavalry and modern Cavalry formations, where battalions are called squadrons, are mainly intended for conducting military force reconnaissance (Armored Cavalry - ground component, Air Cavalry - air). Despite adhering to these traditions, which was also expressed in the special unique OshS of the brigade and battalions, two former brigade of corps subordination were reorganized into the combined-arms Ompbr "Stryker", but they are also called regiments, and the battalions - squadrons. Reformed - this means not by changing the signboard, but by completely changing the OShS of these parts. In total, there are 9 Stryker brigades in the SV (1 in the SV of the National Guard), which speaks of the name Cavalry only as a preserved army tradition, similar to the hussar, dragoon, grenadier, fusilier and jaeger names of the SV formations preserved in a number of countries, where they are the same applies to armored forces and infantry, respectively.
                Military traditions are not limited to the 1942th century, they were preserved and accumulated in later periods and wars, since in August 101 the 1968st division was formed as an airborne landing force (AIRBORNE), from 1974 it was airborne, from 101 and to this day (de facto) - an air assault assault, we are interested in the latter about this formation in the context of this topic. AIRBORNE is the traditional name for the 1st division, but it is not, just as much as the XNUMXst Cavalry is not and cannot be a cavalry (currently has an OSh brtd).
                Quote: Robespierre9
                Further, Airborne FORCE, this is exactly what the FORCE, here, look:

                Copy-paste the text about the Soviet airborne forces, trying to prove the existence of the US airborne forces, and even for some reason operate on English transcription. Your obstruction is beyond measure, on what scale do you evaluate your stupidity?
                Quote: Robespierre9
                The second is 101st Division, Airborne.

                The donkey warned you:
                Quote: k_ply
                I would know this wrote who now looks.

                And for the assimilation of Dunno, the discoverer:
                Quote: k_ply
                My young friend, well, you can’t be so primitive ...
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                  21 March 2015 12: 12
                  Aha! cavalry blah. Listen to yourself, Sharikov, it's time to shut up, learn to understand and listen, then you will climb out with amendments, he was going to teach military terminology - "DShV"
                  I support you completely. I’m tired of this type too, because of my perplexity. The guy has something really wrong with his head.
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                3. Robespierre9
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                  21 March 2015 19: 16
                  Quote: k_ply
                  Now my short-sighted obsessive Pathfinder, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_United_States_Army#Maneuver.2C_Fir

                  es_and_Effects_.28MFE.29_Branches_and_Functional_Areas
                  "Amer Airborne Forces" were found, no?

                  Now what are "Fires and Effects (MFE) Branches" and "Functional Areas"

                  Try to answer without tantrums, to lose, I see you do not like ..

                  Second, you are not alarmed that in the "Fires" section there are only two categories of "Field Artillery" "Air Defense Artillery", there is no Strategic Missile Forces, there is no such garbage as "Aerospace Defense Forces", eh?
                  1. Robespierre9
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                    21 March 2015 19: 19
                    "The comment has been removed."

                    The "padonak" escaped, escaped, did not have time ... sorry did not have time laughing
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                      21 March 2015 20: 12
                      That, miscarriage, I’m looking at your head’s affairs are very bad:
                      Quote: Robespierre9
                      Second, you are not alarmed that in the "Fires" section there are only two categories of "Field Artillery" "Air Defense Artillery", there is no Strategic Missile Forces, there is no such garbage as "Aerospace Defense Forces", eh?

                      You fucking dock, you don’t even understand, you don’t even see the difference between the structure of the Armed Forces and the Army, you gave the sheep a link on the US Army, so what kind of strategic missile forces and air defense forces are there, which are in the structure of the Russian Armed Forces, not even the Russian Federation ?? ?
                      Quote: Robespierre9
                      The "padonak" escaped, escaped, did not have time ... sorry did not have time

                      What are you there, you little son, did not have time, what can you do, what do you even know? better close your lousy blowjob and don't stick your head out until you rehabilitate yourself in the yellow house.
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  40. 0
    18 March 2015 14: 22
    Quote: kuz363
    In addition, physically they are much more athletic than the Russians.

    Is this a joke? With the level of suffering from the medical diagnosis "obesity" in the army over 60%?

    They have only ILCs and special units in normal physical form. All the rest are real fat. Do not watch Hollywood movies. I have seen enough of them. In real life, units run along paths and parks. In Russia, physical education is bad, but not as much as in the USA. Here, Finland or the Czech Republic, very sporting countries, would become an example. For curiosity, look at the standards for physical training in the regular army of the United States.
    http://judeomasson.livejournal.com/17260.html
    For example: I run the top ten at a training pace with less time than the minimum on the plate for 17-21. And I have overweight a couple of kilograms.
    Further: squats - I can at least 400, and there is a maximum of 82. Push-ups: here I can have a small gap of 100 times, not more. In this case, push-ups they have "half" - up to 90 degrees in the elbow.

    More than 60% of the personnel in the US Army can’t pass the standards, for which they often receive fines, but this practice is now coming to naught. I wish fat people !!!
  41. 0
    18 March 2015 17: 35
    And what !? Without an analytical conclusion about the possibilities to conduct full-scale, long-term military operations on its territory and the enemy, this review is NOTHING !!!
  42. 0
    18 March 2015 20: 36
    I feel sorry for you arrogant Saxons crying pray .. For we will come and take you by the belt https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JiSULMvsz7Y You are weak in heart soldier
  43. 0
    19 March 2015 16: 54
    The vile s of the Bashkir cavalry have not yet seen.
  44. 0
    24 October 2016 10: 17
    The power is certainly impressive, but it's not so scary in terms of quantity, but in segments and in qualitative superiority. So far, we answer with "asymmetry", and quite well, in compliance with the principle of reasonable sufficiency. The main threat is that the US economy is able to recreate a significant part of this arsenal in a year or two. And we have everything piece by piece. There is hardly any production capacity for a mobilization economy, nor is there a sufficient number of engineering and professional workers. Such shots are rare. And of course, finance. Without a rationing system, we can't scrape together anything in the event of martial law. Even though we have parity in corruption in the field of military orders. And that's good. Need to get the buck. Without this, New Khazaria cannot be stopped. For this, it seems, everything is being done "outside" now: we click on their noses on the local theaters of "proxy wars", we strengthen the ruble, we try to drag BRICS away from the dollar at least one iota. But this is not enough. There are no qualitative changes "inside". Without a powerful state and socialist economy (at least 50%), there will be cotton wool instead of muscles inside the armor. And this is a natural kirdyk. We are far from even the "Chinese" intra-economic alignment - from the point of view of state control over the main sectors of the economy. In fact, they "strengthened the outposts" at the lines. It's time to do the "gut". But the elections showed that EdRo, which consists of 70% of opportunists, careerists and other "fellow travelers", is still in honor. Take Putin from the alignment and a couple of his friends, what will "remain on the pipe"? There will not even be "I" as in that conversation. " , although it would be logical. What saves us? - The internal weakness of the enemy: the very "snake that bites its own tail" - the common human degradation of Western "cadres" In short, we urgently need “Back to the Future.” More socialism, and we will get stronger as a power, strong with its people.
  45. 0
    24 October 2016 10: 24
    Seeing how the topic partially shifted to "who is more athletic, prepared, more militant," I laughed heartily. This question will have absolutely no meaning if the country is trampled into the Stone Age by the enemy's patrolling drones, helicopters and attack aircraft. You can run with clubs until you die out completely. It was only in the movies that the blue tailed Na-Vi could win the war against the military-technical corporation.