In the Kemerovo region, motorized infantry got fifteen T-72B3

Yurga motorized rifle brigade in the Kemerovo region received 15 upgraded tanks T-72B3, transmits RIA News message of the representative of the Central Military District Yaroslav Roshchupkina.

“Fifteen deeply modernized T-72B3 tanks manufactured by Uralvagonzavod corporation were delivered by the state defense order to the Yurga motorized rifle brigade of the Central Military District,” said Roschupkin.

According to the manufacturer, “the T-72B3 tank is an upgrade of the T-72 tank to the T-90 level. The T-72B3 is distinguished by an improved fire control system with a digital ballistic computer, a sight with a laser range finder and an anti-tank missile control system, and digital communication devices of the latest generation.

Comments

[Portoss]

While we will bring ARMAT to mind, the BTV needs to be saturated with new technology, although not so modern, but quite modernized.

[Giant thought]

Fifteen pieces of tanks on a motorized rifle brigade will not be enough.

[Mooh]

Yes, but why not the T-90? Why saturate BTV with obviously obsolete equipment?

[Eugene-Eugene]

Why produce the T-90 if "the T-72B3 tank is an upgrade of the T-72 tank to the T-90 level"

[crazyrom]

Then what if you upgrade the Lada to the level of a Mercedes, then the Mercedes will not work. You will have a powerful motor, and a stereo system with DVD, and GPS and heated seats, but this is a Lada, with all its shortcomings. To have a Mercedes, you need to buy a Mercedes. But we have a lot of zhigui, but they can’t be processed into Mercedes, so they upgrade as they can, and it turns out pretty good. But if you start from scratch, then the best version (T-90). And soon Armata.

[Hell's Angel]

Not a tanker, but I suspect that 72x tuned a lot at one time and it is much cheaper to upgrade them than to build 90s. Moreover, the Armata, a new generation tank, is on its way. It's like SU - 35 (deeply modernized 27th) and PAK FA. Until the PAK FA satiates the Air Force all the "work" will go to the 35th. Yes, the 35th is being built from scratch, but only because the 27th has exhausted its resource. It's much easier with tanks. Their pieces of iron are thicker.
I watched once about "Abrams" at "Discovery". It turns out that they have not been released since the early 80s (if I am not mistaken). They bring it to the plant, dismantle it "to the cog" and put everything new or improved.
Therefore, the "boxes" from the T - 72, and probably the T - 80 will still serve.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: MooH

Yes, but why not the T-90? Why saturate BTV with obviously obsolete equipment?

Because the purchase of the T-90 has been discontinued. For one simple reason: instead of 60 T-90, you can purchase 180-200 T-72BZ.
In total, the MO must urgently replace about 2000 tanks. So estimate the total replacement time in the case of purchases of T-90 and in the case of purchases of T-72B3.

[gispanec]

Quote: MooH

Yes, but why not the T-90?

T-72B3 is the same output, but cheaper .... no one canceled the economy

[Samurai3X]

For the same reason that during the Second World War did not rivet IP or HF in huge quantities.
There must be a balance.

[Lord of the Sith]

With the T-72 is understandable. But with the T-80 it’s interesting in terms of time they should be written off completely in 2015, not in reserve, but written off. And this is about 4000 tanks.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Sith Lord

not to reserve, namely write off

I do not think the information is correct.
Disposal will cost no less than storage.
This, perhaps, earlier, while we were "partnering" with NATO, they wanted to write off.
And now ... the events in the Donbass have shown how quickly everything ends in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and BTT, and ammunition, when there is nothing to replenish. not even a year had passed before the ebroi died ...

[gispanec]

Quote: Alekseev

Disposal will cost no less than storage.

recycling is not worth anything ..... we (metalworkers) CUT AND DO NOT ASK FOR MONEY ..... just pick up the scrap ourselves .... the question of the price of scrap is all))

[Moore]

Is there anything else that apart from the cutting operation is still dismantling the equipment and putting it into warehouses? And how much it costs - we don’t know ...

[Rex]

According to the conclusion to the reserve T-80 infa at the level of rumors / intentions.
They are 4 times less in the troops

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Sith Lord

But with the T-80 it’s interesting in terms of time they should be written off completely in 2015, not in reserve, but written off.

It was planned to be done. But for the reason you voiced, the cancellation deadlines may shift. Moreover, although the T-80 has long been discontinued, and there are no more workshops - despite all this, the T-80 is still being repaired at 61 BTRZ.

[user]

And this is about 4000 tanks.

Why cheat?
You just need to transfer the LC and the DNI.

[Finches]

Glad for the land (I come from Kemerovo)! Though not with such a modernization of the tank, but from 72 I started my army path!

[Artyom]

the best charge is selling! I think Iraq or Syria will not refuse!

[s1н7т]

But what for in Yurg new tanks, if the country can give birth to as many as 15 units? Maybe it’s better in the borderland where? Taki Yurga - such pampas, from where, if anything, they will be taken in any direction for a long time.
And why exactly 15? - Are the states in the infantry right now? Previously, in a small and medium business, there were 3x4 tanks in a company + KTR tank = 13 vehicles. Now how?

[Denis fj]

Well, why deeply modernized in the deep rear. Everything is at the forefront, closer to Poland and the Baltic states.

[Civil]

All t-72 upgrade and sell! Or supply to the allies)

[Denis fj]

Why can’t this be done and delivered to the troops! We do everything for export so that everything is beautiful, but for your army you can. a blooper. and without block D3.


CLICKABLE.

[almost demobil]

Quote: denis fj

Why can’t this be done and delivered to the troops?

In addition, why can’t you somehow protect the shoulder strap of the tower? The suitcase flies there!

[Alex_Rarog]

Happy operation!
I would like more well, though this is a joy!

[Thompson]

And the thermal imager ??????????????

[boa constrictor]

To which the psheks immediately announced "the Russian armada in the direction of Poland!" With a call to sprotoland!

[gas113]

Give Armata !!! And B3 to Novorossia urgently, hundreds should be enough to Kuev

[navara399]

Fifteen pieces for the brigade will not be enough.
And that is joy. The main thing is that we are moving in the right direction.

"We are going the right way, comrades!"

[Simon]

The modernized T-72B3 went into operation. Our army is strengthening.

[dosyl]

Today 15, tomorrow 15, fine. By the way, gentlemen, what is the state of the SME? Not otherwise tank companies of 13 vehicles? I served as divisions.

[Portoss]

In my tank battalion in the GSVG there were 3 companies of 13 tanks plus a battalion. T-80U and T-80BV.

[s1н7т]

Quote: Portoss

In my tank battalion

Typical TB SMEs, right? 8 army, no?

[Noncombatant]

Quote: Giant thought

Fifteen pieces of tanks on a motorized rifle brigade will not be enough.

Well, help me, my dear. Go ahead and figure out why it is so "not enough".

[viking1703]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeGlnThG6XA&t=1001

Well, that's what's going on in the LPR. In general, the Khan of the LPR, followed by the DPR. Merge militias and Cossacks.

[Rex]

They will not "merge" Lugadon at least until Putin leaves.
They will maintain the current status quo while it is possible and makes at least some sense.

[Vezhchel]

Keep it up.

[Siberia 9444]

And what part do not write ?! The 74th Separate Guards Zvenigorod-Berlin Order of Suvorov, second degree, motorized rifle brigade as part of the 41st separate army of the Central Military District.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Siberia 9444

And what part do not write ?!

And that would not make life easier for every Butusov. And then tomorrow they will write about the participation in the battles in the Donbass of the 74th military division, hastily transferred from Yurga.

[Siberia 9444]

Yes, they all know 12000 military personnel + all Almaty have beaten (what we will look at the parade ) where are we Siberian boots

[Linkor9s21]

Guys, like who has watched the documentary "Crimea's Way to Homeland".

[Siberia 9444]

If you put a duck only to Putin but so far unfortunately it is not on our site

[dosyl]

Quote: Alekseev

Disposal will cost no less than storage.

Comrades! Talk about disposal in Soviet style? Kazakhstan, the 70s, tanks on the move with brick on gas in a big hole and on top with a bulldozer. T-34-85 and ISy, different. So, cheap, in Soviet way.

[inegrek]

... then they dug out in Temirtau ... for remelting, but steel does not fit ... and for cutting ...

[mamont5]

Quote: Finches

Glad for the land (I come from Kemerovo)! Though not with such a modernization of the tank, but from 72 I started my army path!

I support the fellow countryman.

[Siberian]

Well done = Yurgintsy = .... well, at the training ground they have, these tanks for training, training and professional development are the most ...............

[mamont5]

Quote: Alexey RA

Moreover, although the T-80 has long been discontinued, and there are no more workshops - despite all this, the T-80 is still being repaired at 61 BTRZ.

It seems that recently there was an article here that the Kantemirovskaya division was armed with t-80 tanks.
http://topwar.ru/68114-4-ya-gvardeyskaya-kantemirovskaya-diviziya-tankovye-strel
by-na-podmoskovnom-poligone-u-alabino-29-yanvarya.html

[cat 23]

"It seems like recently there was an article here that the Kantemirovsk division was armed with T-80 tanks."
Taman Division. He served in the 90s in a tank regiment, we had t-80 beats

[s1н7т]

No, T-80 with a diesel engine is another song. In the 80s, our armored vehicles (GSVG) had BV and U, in my opinion. They praised them more than those who used the T-64.

[bolat19640303]

There are T-80 UD tanks (diesel).

[a71]

Quote: Siberia 9444

If you put a duck only to Putin but so far unfortunately it is not on our site

Are you sure?

[Alexei-]

ooooooo, I think, what is it on the floor above the armored front all weekend "buzzing" with a break for a roar from the balcony (paaa poooly taankiiii grrrohoottaaaaaliiiii ....)))))), hmm. I'll have to look with a liter in the evening ... Nothing, the teetotalers will trample the driveways ..... not every day renewal

[varela]

They are already singing in full force "if tomorrow is a war, if tomorrow is a campaign," but they supply the troops with ersatz equipment.
Without Relic, without Glonass, and other recent improvements, with a minimum of new electronics.
Interestingly, in these engines is also old, or is it still 1130 horses?
Damn, it seems like we have not Nanai with Zuafs in the opponents of probable more and more clearly, but more serious than the country, they could at least B2, "Slingshot" supply!

[Zomanus]

Well, taking into account that the CFE Treaty is "everything", I think that soon they will begin to transfer armored vehicles to the western borders. We need to restore parity at the borders.

[Wolka]

yes ok, everything is according to plan ...

[Anti-ukra]

Normal move. Grain chicken .....