French STX building Mistral received a large order from the USA

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The United States placed an order for the construction of a passenger airliner at the French shipyard STX in Saint-Nazaire, the cost of which exceeds the contract for the Mistral helicopter carriers, the newspaper reported Look with reference to the RIA "News».

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"When did the French start story With the “pass-do not pass” Mistral, the Americans offered them to build a large ship for themselves, because this shipyard initially specializes in cruise ships. The cost of this order is greater than the Mistrali contract, so it is likely that the failure of the contract with Russia is not so critical for the French, ”a shipbuilding industry source told the agency.

In addition, as previously reported, the French defense enterprise DCNS, also participating in the construction of Mistral for Russia, has been involved in the work on the NATO missile defense system. Together with DCNS, American firms are included in the consortium.

Last Thursday, while in Warsaw, French Prime Minister Manuel Waltz stated that "Paris’s decision not to supply Russia with Mistral-type helicopter carriers was sovereign, and France took responsibility for this step."

At the same time, the French opposition criticized the actions of Hollande, who obeyed the US demand. Deputy head of the National Front Florian Filippo tweeted: “If Hollande really doesn’t intend to supply Mistrali, then he completely destroys the trust in France with the sole purpose of obeying Washington.”

Help newspaper: “STX Europe is an international shipbuilding group with 15 shipyards in Brazil, Finland, France, Norway, Romania and Vietnam. The main areas of the company's construction activities are cruise ships and ferries, oil platforms and special ships. Since 2012, in cooperation with the "Baltic Plant" in Saint-Nazaire universal landing ships "Mistral" are being built. The former field of activity, the construction of merchant ships, was separated from the concern in 2008. Cruise ships are built primarily at STX Finland Cruise Oy in Turku, as well as STX France Cruise SA in Saint-Nazaire (Chantiers de l'Atlantique). ”
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    1. +51
      13 March 2015 12: 11
      The United States placed an order for the construction of a passenger liner at the French shipyard STX in Saint-Nazaire, the cost of which exceeds the Mistral helicopter carrier contract


      Well, that’s the compensation from Washington. That's what the French minister the other day heaved his heels in the chest.
      1. +55
        13 March 2015 12: 15
        Yes, I don’t really want to! Let them pay a forfeit (just from this money), and then who are the fools? We have the money, the states are liners, and let the French keep their ferries. Will migrants from the Middle East import gee-gee ...
        No wonder my father-in-law - a Kazakh Jew from Soviet geologists disparagingly calls them "French".
        1. +12
          13 March 2015 12: 19
          We need money, liner states, French ferries, let migrants from the Middle East import ...
          And we will demand the stern of Mistral back ?? laughing
          1. +25
            13 March 2015 12: 30
            Somehow strange, with this liner order

            The state does not order cruise ships, especially in the states.

            Booked by a private cruise company



            1. +4
              13 March 2015 13: 44
              Quote: bulvas
              The state does not order cruise ships, especially in the states.

              Booked by a private cruise company

              And who cares here? Any private company from the USA here is perceived almost as a representative of the state. department ...
              1. +2
                13 March 2015 15: 06
                Interesting, and how to perceive you, my friend?
                1. +1
                  13 March 2015 16: 25
                  Build a new Titanic.
            2. 0
              14 March 2015 00: 02
              For the most part, we don’t give a damn about who and what will be built at the storage, the main thing is to us, return ours!
            3. +3
              14 March 2015 02: 26
              Booked by a private cruise company


              A private company at first nastampavala grandmas ...
              Now orders ...
              What difference does it make to them now owing 19 trillion or 20 ... The difference is small
          2. +4
            13 March 2015 12: 56
            Quote: jktu66
            And we will demand the stern of Mistral back ??

            Sure! Let it do without poop.
          3. +2
            13 March 2015 13: 11
            And we will demand the stern of Mistral back ??

            There two our feed ends ...
          4. 0
            13 March 2015 13: 40
            Quote: jktu66
            And we will demand the stern of Mistral back?

            We’ll have her in the stern of Oland for a long time. and for this we’ll also turn on the counter. he must pay for pleasure. and they won’t carry migrants, they will load more tightly and flood in the middle of the sea. then lift and load again. and striped along the way a new titanic was conceived.
            1. +2
              13 March 2015 16: 10
              Quote: ermolai
              We’ll have her in the stern of Oland for a long time. and for this we’ll also turn on the counter. for pleasure he must pay

              Yes, yes - still pays - pays or pays - in words everything is over.
              Neighboring filthy - as they already lifted up - there is no one to defend the state honor.
          5. +1
            13 March 2015 13: 41
            Fuck let them buy!
          6. +2
            13 March 2015 14: 09
            Quote: jktu66
            And we will demand the stern of Mistral back ??

            demand can not be returned ..... not even funny
          7. 0
            13 March 2015 22: 40
            Quote: jktu66
            And we will demand the stern of Mistral back?


            Of course - in eureka.
        2. +6
          13 March 2015 12: 19
          Let money be returned along the Mistrals + all Russian equipment, and the remaining parts then be rebuilt to the American order of cruise liners
          1. jjj
            +6
            13 March 2015 12: 24
            But when will Marine Le Pen come to power, will they immediately hand over the built cruiser or look at US foreign policy?
          2. +9
            13 March 2015 12: 33
            The contract for aircraft has already jumped smile
            1. Hon
              0
              13 March 2015 16: 14
              who sazat? were there official statements from the indian side?
          3. 0
            13 March 2015 21: 25
            Well, well, why so naive. For the return of this money, they will endure all the brains. The stupidity did that ordered them, the result of the greed of our officials, including Medvedev.
        3. +5
          13 March 2015 12: 46
          Good father in law !!! If he also studied geology in Tashkent, then in general everything is clear !!!! There are good friends from there)))
        4. +2
          13 March 2015 13: 06
          Grandmas on the table and you can leave these two troughs for yourself.
          1. Hon
            +1
            13 March 2015 16: 15
            grandmother still have to sue
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        6. +5
          13 March 2015 13: 08
          Paris' decision not to supply Russia with Mistral-class helicopter carriers was sovereign

          Yes, they are as sovereign as the ex-governor of Sakhalin is now in Lefortovo
        7. 0
          13 March 2015 13: 37
          Well, father-in-law respect biography! And the geologists, the test men, wanted to become so simple. (
        8. 0
          13 March 2015 13: 48
          Quote: Floock
          Let us pay a forfeit

          on what basis ?? ... the penalty is that? ... the contract has a clause stipulating to suspend the transfer for an indefinite period in case of international tension in a particular region and the decision of the government .. here they are waiting for the tension to drop ..... so that you can generally forget about uncleaning forever ... then returning what has already been paid will be a huge problem .....
        9. 0
          13 March 2015 13: 48
          Let them pay a penalty to Russia, and at the same time declare sanctions for the paddling pool following the example of their "breadwinner" Obama.
          1. Hon
            0
            13 March 2015 16: 17
            but they will take and not pay
        10. Hon
          +2
          13 March 2015 16: 12
          the penalty still needs to be judged, and then the sentenced to receive
        11. 0
          14 March 2015 22: 28
          Yes, they are more offended that they did not frail rollback from this contract ...
          in general, as they say, got burned from all sides: money, image, etc ....
      2. +7
        13 March 2015 12: 16
        Selling Frogs! No wonder the Arabs wrinkle them there - there is a reason!
        1. +16
          13 March 2015 12: 31
          You can’t say that about the whole nation. There are, by the way, and the French fighting for New Russia. If you follow this logic, then what would they say about the Russian Serbs when NATO bombed Yugoslavia. Yeltsin leaked them, and Russian volunteers fought there. We lived at the same time. Or at that time you had a different attitude to what was happening. When there is a conversation about a nation, I judge by the actions of ordinary people, not corrupt politicians.
          1. +5
            13 March 2015 12: 55
            And I will answer you this way - Hollande, chosen by the people of France in the democratic elections, and according to the opinion poll, 40% were against the Mistral transfer to Russia! And in the next election not Le Pen will win, but again some sort of Hollande! And the fact that units are at war is not an indicator of the maturity of the whole nation!
            1. 0
              14 March 2015 20: 40
              I do not really trust the Western media and opinion polls. I myself have not been to France, but my friend lived there for several years. He left a very good impression of the French. And in general in France they treat Russians very well. Do not forget what kind of propaganda is going on there and how the events in Ukraine are covered there.
      3. +10
        13 March 2015 12: 17
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Well, that’s the compensation from Washington. That's what the French minister the other day heaved his heels in the chest.

        Let this general knock himself as much as he wants))) but on the face of France itself there is so much "spit" that it takes them a long time to wash .. the French showed themselves in their purest form - for a handout and at the behest of the owner they will throw anyone and even though the Indians, even if you know the Arabs, the owner will say and we will throw you. ))) So personally, I do not see that the French saved the "honor of the uniform" but I see how the Frenchwoman wiped her apron and crawled on her knees to collect the money thrown by her master.
        1. +5
          13 March 2015 13: 20
          I personally do not see that the French saved the "honor of the uniform"

          The most striking thing is that the expression "All is lost except honor" belongs to the French king Francis. Yes, the French were crushed ...
      4. +1
        13 March 2015 12: 18
        Straight Titanic ...
      5. +22
        13 March 2015 12: 20
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Well, that’s the compensation from Washington.

        That’s the end of the tale - now if that’s - they will threaten with the refusal of the liner - then the shipyard will get a full popos.
        The behavior of France resembled a joke.
        Morning, bank, silence, then a man bursts into a mask and with a gun - To be afraid of everyone, this is a robbery !!!!
        Everyone is afraid, he requires himself the chief manager of the bank - a woman comes out.
        - The robber puts her on her knees, puts the barrel to her head, takes out a member and makes her suck.
        The lady is doing it all with pleasure.
        The robber stands, drags with pleasure and condemns - at home we cannot, at home we do not like ........


        Here are the roles and are divided. You can roll out a lawsuit in full.
      6. +5
        13 March 2015 12: 33
        Quote: rotmistr60

        Well, that’s the compensation from Washington. That's what the French minister the other day heaved his heels in the chest.

        Not otherwise, the new "Titanic" was ordered laughing France loses money on the Mistral every day, because they need to be maintained and maintained, even standing at the shipyard. So this contract is more to reassure the public. laughing
        1. Hon
          0
          13 March 2015 16: 19
          France is not a poor country, such a spending can afford
      7. +6
        13 March 2015 12: 57
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Well, that’s the compensation from Washington. That's what the French minister the other day heaved his heels in the chest.

        That hardly believes in such compensation and in such cost ..
        Royal Caribbean International has commissioned Finnish shipbuilders to build a whole new class of passenger liners that can hold the palm for many years. So there was a cruise ship “Oasis of the Seas”, which was launched as the largest passenger ship in the world on October 28, 2009. In addition, the liner won first place in another category, as the most expensive ship on the planet. 1,24 billion dollars were spent on its construction, the average cost of staying in the port of such a ship will cost the owners $ 230000.(Ship portal)
        The construction cost of the Mistrules is 1,2 billion euro. Therefore, the compromise is purely noodles for shipbuilders, so as not to rebel, saying that there is work - do it. Payments are all advance and phased - Americans will not make a full prepayment, close one hole (money back plus fines) by taking a loan - these are Ukrainian methods.
        The pans are already standing - they are taking up space and for a couple of about half a million euros a month they ask for maintenance, or maybe more.
        1. +2
          13 March 2015 13: 06
          Standing Mistral will be a monument to French humiliation and stupidity. Because it turns out that they built for free, and even paid the fines. And most importantly, no one will buy from them - unless floating under the brothels) Two such engines will take their place at the quays.
        2. 0
          13 March 2015 19: 42
          The pans are already standing - they are taking up space and for a couple of about half a million euros a month they ask for maintenance, or maybe more.
          they will give it back, since no one needs this device anymore, except that China will intercept, but this is unlikely. So that will pass. By the way, when is the election in mattress? during this period, they can quickly push it as well, the boss will not be there before))))
      8. +2
        13 March 2015 13: 01
        It finally became clear where the ears grow from.
      9. +2
        13 March 2015 13: 02
        Ha, let's see how the mattresses will pay. laughing
      10. +1
        13 March 2015 13: 13
        Here it is on the surface - Sovereign decision of France on the Mistrals....... They that ..... absolutely all for and * diots keep?
      11. +2
        13 March 2015 13: 21
        Frog pad mattresses were bought with giblets, and Russia now needs to sue France for its money, but the lesson turned out to be good, you cannot deal in armaments with NATO member states.
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      13. 0
        13 March 2015 13: 35
        The machine at RV doesn’t care about the money, countries can not shut their mouths.!
      14. +1
        13 March 2015 17: 49
        Quote: rotmistr60
        The United States placed an order for the construction of a passenger liner at the French shipyard STX in Saint-Nazaire, the value of which exceeds the contract for helicopter carriers "Mistral


        Well, that’s the compensation from Washington. That's what the French minister the other day heaved his heels in the chest.

        It reminds me of the situation with the ATACR "Ulyanovsk" in Nikolaev in the 90s, they also promised a lot.
      15. 0
        13 March 2015 17: 57
        Quote: rotmistr60
        The United States placed an order for the construction of a passenger liner at the French shipyard STX in Saint-Nazaire, the cost of which exceeds the Mistral helicopter carrier contract


        Well, that’s the compensation from Washington. That's what the French minister the other day heaved his heels in the chest.

        It’s rather money to pay a forfeit, so as not to go bankrupt, otherwise the shipyard will go under the hammer. I understand that we decided not to give us .........
      16. 0
        13 March 2015 22: 18
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Well, that’s the compensation from Washington. That's what the French minister the other day heaved his heels in the chest.


        Something I didn’t understand ... Will they now be converting Mistrals into cruise liners?
    2. +5
      13 March 2015 12: 12
      I immediately recall the words of Viktor Sukhorukov from Brother-2.
      HERE !!!!!!
      1. +2
        13 March 2015 12: 15
        and don’t say ... got out ... it remains the matter for small to knock out money from them ...
        1. 0
          13 March 2015 12: 53
          and don’t say ... got out,
          it's like a glance. this ship is blinded, and the reputation in the military business is worth a lot. Tu-Tu airplanes.
      2. +16
        13 March 2015 12: 31
        I immediately recall the words of Viktor Sukhorukov from Brother-2.
        HERE !!!!!!

        Vitya has always been famous for his insight ....
        1. +4
          13 March 2015 12: 39
          Vitya has always been famous for his insight ....


          Vitya voiced (in the role), invented by Alexei Balabanov and Sergey Bodrov! Although, I admit that artists could offer small but interesting details. hi
          1. +3
            13 March 2015 12: 50
            Quote: neri73-r
            Vitya has always been famous for his insight ....


            Vitya voiced (in the role), invented by Alexei Balabanov and Sergey Bodrov! Although, I admit that artists could offer small but interesting details. hi

            The important thing is not who invented it.
            The memory will always be the one who realized.
            (My thought, I give! hi )
    3. +9
      13 March 2015 12: 12
      Legushniks have always been "inexpensive".
    4. +5
      13 March 2015 12: 12
      The cost of this order is more than the contract for Mistral, therefore, the breakdown of the agreement with Russia is now not so critical for the French

      What nonsense ???
      How not critical - how to pay for the Mistrals will the paddlers ????
      1. Hon
        0
        13 March 2015 16: 21
        and they’re not going to pay yet
    5. +14
      13 March 2015 12: 15
      At home for 3 billion it was possible not only to build two helicopter carriers, but also for the helicopters themselves would remain. From now on, science will communicate with whom!
      1. +7
        13 March 2015 13: 38
        Quote: Karasev70
        At home for 3 billion it was possible not only to build two helicopter carriers, but also for the helicopters themselves would remain. From now on, science will communicate with whom!

        - Bend your fingers:
        - There is no project, nor its clear understanding - time.
        - There is no normal control system for all this - two.
        - There is no plant capable of overpowering all this at a time - three.
        - Problems with Ukrainian components - lack of power plants and commonplace cable.

        Of the benefits, only ready-made helicopters and a half-parking place.
        If all our minuses are estimated not in the form of fingers but in the form of a monetary / temporary equivalent - it will turn out to be more expensive and in 15 years.
    6. +3
      13 March 2015 12: 16
      The United States placed an order for the construction of a passenger liner at the French shipyard STX in Saint-Nazaire, the cost of which exceeds the Mistral helicopter carrier contract
      And excellent. Let the money be returned to us. With interest and further that they want it and do it. The main thing is that business reputation is simply not being restored ...
      1. Hon
        0
        13 March 2015 16: 31
        with the money you have to wait
    7. +4
      13 March 2015 12: 16
      What kind of compensation is this? Will they make a liner out of thin air? Or will the Mistral be adapted for it?
      These ships are hung on them with a stone until they are realized for any tasks. Support - yes, but not for all the money.
      1. +3
        13 March 2015 12: 20
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        What kind of compensation is this? Will they make a liner out of thin air? Or will the Mistral be adapted for it?

        This is money ... that went to their account, and they are debtors. So let them return, and then decide with their government that yes how
      2. Sly
        0
        13 March 2015 12: 23
        Or will the Mistral be adapted for it?

        I wonder how they will adapt them without stern? )
      3. +2
        13 March 2015 13: 05
        The most interesting thing is that in order not to sell just running troughs, they will have to finish them up to full-fledged helicopter carriers or remodel them into the BDK — that is, to invest in order to equip the price in accordance with the requirements of the new owner. The Chinese can buy - they have dofig bucks, but they bargain for half the price.
    8. +5
      13 March 2015 12: 17
      Why is Russia not suing France? Tired of this fuss! Maybe we don’t finish something?
      1. 0
        13 March 2015 13: 47
        flashed here - until May 16 ...
      2. Hon
        +1
        13 March 2015 16: 34
        the court and preparation for it is a long and complicated matter, and also the ignorance that is spelled out in the contract, perhaps the judicial prospects are not as bright as we think
    9. +6
      13 March 2015 12: 18
      This is not help from the USA. I think in the near future we will find out under what conditions the Americans placed an order. And I doubt something about their profitability for the French.
    10. +9
      13 March 2015 12: 18
      Throw them Americans - they will divorce and throw. So the French adventures of Little Red Riding Hood are just beginning.
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    13. MSL
      +1
      13 March 2015 12: 20
      The question is: WHERE IS OUR MONEY! Well, or give the pelvis. Or or. And what is there who ordered and paid for them, to us on the drum.
    14. +1
      13 March 2015 12: 22
      Quote: Finch OFF
      How not critical - how to pay for the Mistrals will the paddlers ????

      These grandmas will be. Mattress covers will print more green candy wrappers. And the money for "Minstrual" already needs to be demanded back!
      And in the future, STX will only work with mattress toppers. They confirmed their "reputation".
      1. Hon
        0
        13 March 2015 16: 36
        I will not conclude a contract with them anymore))
    15. +2
      13 March 2015 12: 23
      Quote: jktu66
      We need money, liner states, French ferries, let migrants from the Middle East import ...
      And we will demand the stern of Mistral back ?? laughing

      The frogmen have already set up their poop .... both for our sons and pampas and savannahs such a doublet looms
    16. farkop
      +1
      13 March 2015 12: 24
      Well then, the American shipyards will not receive this money. good too.
    17. 0
      13 March 2015 12: 24
      “For us, the situation is legally clean. The contract was well prepared. But the situation is so politicized that Hollande hopes that international arbitration will side with France. And he will find the formula of force majeure, which will not pay a dime. In particular, options are being worked out to endow the embargo with retroactive force.


      That's it, that's what the mean villagers conceived

      More details here http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2014/11/28_a_6320101.shtml
    18. +6
      13 March 2015 12: 26
      And for what reason did the author write down the minuses? He simply brought this fact to us, stated that is ... But everyone has nothing to do with the author (my opinion) Well, the little girls were crushed for good, there’s no De Gaulle, pooh negative And- Glory to Russia !!!
      1. 0
        13 March 2015 13: 48
        cons not to the author, but to information. It seems like I was reading articles and news about ratings here. Not right ? correct me.
    19. +2
      13 March 2015 12: 27
      These are the problems of France. Russia's problem to return its money
    20. 0
      13 March 2015 12: 28
      Well, let them do business with America now. For a penny
    21. +4
      13 March 2015 12: 29
      The maintenance of Mistral at the shipyard also requires a lot of money. Even their cutting into metal will not cost a penny. So there is a fair wind, the French. You still have to pay for everything.
    22. +3
      13 March 2015 12: 31
      Now mattresses need to order planes to compensate the Indian contract! laughing
    23. +3
      13 March 2015 12: 35
      Mistral let them give kaklam. They have a lot of money, enough for the maintenance of these barges.
    24. +3
      13 March 2015 12: 39
      Not critical? How glad I am for the French! You can pay a penalty and Mistral (the French part) in the scrap metal and the workers will be busy! Only now I remembered the ending of one old joke: - Francois (conditionally), and doesn’t it seem to you that we ate shit for free?
    25. +4
      13 March 2015 12: 45
      Quote: bulvas
      Somehow strange, with this liner order

      The state does not order cruise ships, especially in the states.

      Booked by a private cruise company

      Come on about "the state does not order." In the United States, the Politburo has been in session for a long time, as they say it will.
      They gave the customer quietly any tax preferences or something else and pointed a finger at the French: Place an order there.

      I remember how firmly Mr. Posner said that the United States is completely independent media. No further than last year. Moreover, the main evidence argument for the independence of the American media in Pozner was this: Well, you just do not know! But I know!
    26. KIL
      KIL
      +1
      13 March 2015 12: 46
      If because of amerikosov we do not get "MISTRALS" or money. When a cruise liner leaves for trials, one can recall the feat of Marinesco, they say after the Second World War, many mines remained. laughing
    27. kelevra
      +3
      13 March 2015 12: 48
      Something I’m not sure about, then Americans will buy this airliner! Do they need a fucker when they don’t have enough money to build their promising destroyers? And when they send the paddlers they won’t even say a word! But the Americans will get their way, they’ll spoil the image of the frogmen and beat their shipyards, if only they wouldn’t build anything else, especially Russia!
    28. +3
      13 March 2015 12: 48
      In spite of my mother-in-law's eye, she gouged out herself so that her son-in-law had a curve - this, it turns out, is a French saying ...
    29. 0
      13 March 2015 12: 52
      We are waiting for a scandal in the Senate from the industrial lobby, why didn’t they place an order?
    30. +1
      13 March 2015 12: 52
      Yes, let them build, but where are our grandmothers?
    31. +4
      13 March 2015 12: 54
      IMHO: Russia will not receive money for "Misrali". The French, as Raikin said, will launch the "fool". This is a lesson. But, at one time, they wanted to buy armored vehicles. It is trivial, but Russia has only two friends and this is a fact.
      1. 0
        13 March 2015 13: 46
        Quote: HU-YOUR
        IMHO: Russia will not receive money for "Misrali". The French, as Raikin said, will launch the "fool". This is a lesson. But, at one time, they wanted to buy armored vehicles. It is trivial, but Russia has only two friends and this is a fact.

        If there is a political decision and the will of our government, then the non-return of money or the Mistrales can stand up to the French for much more money. They took Holland by the ass - it spins like in a frying pan, the specific fork came out. The ban on the sale of frog goods or increased excise taxes will quickly make trade very unprofitable and unprofitable.
    32. 0
      13 March 2015 12: 57
      But it seems to me that, by and large, the BDK is essentially a "Big cruise liner", only for the military.
    33. 0
      13 March 2015 12: 58
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, that’s the compensation from Washington. That's what the French minister the other day heaved his heels in the chest.

      Yes, let him knock on his health. We, most importantly, to demand their money from them. Along with fines, of course, and there let them build what they want, even a liner, even a trough.
    34. +1
      13 March 2015 13: 06
      States will not suffer losses. They will print dollars as required, give them to the French, they will build
    35. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 08
      Money can't buy a reputation. all the same, foreign customers will now think ten times before concluding any contracts with them.
    36. +1
      13 March 2015 13: 10
      Classics of the genre))) this is called - for the ruble and take it in my mouth, and give it to opu)) sorry for my French request
    37. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 10
      RETURN MONEY .. and DO NOT RESIST ... WE WILL DO IT FOR YOURSELF!
      and to OUR FUCKING LIBERALS on the Ears to give .... and LET be a lesson.
      that Besides YOUR shipyards there is nothing Ligushatnikov feeds!
    38. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 11
      Vile little people, no shame or conscience.
    39. +1
      13 March 2015 13: 14
      Dear, there was an article our will create a joint engine for helicopters, the joint venture will be with the French
    40. +1
      13 March 2015 13: 15
      Let them want to, they’re building at least basins. They’re building a single order and the Americans won’t repeat it, so this will only delay the company's troubles. Orders in France will be placed only from hopelessness, and only NATO members just felt the situation.
    41. +1
      13 March 2015 13: 16
      The best response of Russia to the non-delivery of the Mistrals would be the laying of its own aircraft carrier !!! Can anyone tell me if there was a combat experience with the use of helicopter carriers in the foreseeable past?
      1. 0
        14 March 2015 13: 58
        Crimea, Kaliningrad, Novaya Zemlya, Kuril Islands, Sakhalin -
        Here are our best unsinkable aircraft carriers !!
    42. +1
      13 March 2015 13: 19
      Directly "native fathers". They are saving their criminal offspring - the French government, from the anger of the people! And they also dare to talk about "corruption", freedom of speech, etc. Themselves are breeding grounds of corruption and ordinary crooks. But the conclusion is sad, we will not see either the Mistrals or money for their non-delivery.
    43. +2
      13 March 2015 13: 22
      The bottom line is the order for cruisers for cruisers, mattresses' moral satisfaction, and for us, a modest and polite penalty, plus an unsinkable aircraft carrier of the Crimea brand. And then, a normal business! Who else should order it? We would have bought the Odessa brand berth and Nikolaev model repair base for the Crimea aircraft carrier, and for the forfeit of the factory for the production of spare parts for the Kharkov project!
    44. +2
      13 March 2015 13: 25
      Well, we have to demand money back and a penalty. Close everything on the line of military-technical cooperation with France and introduce protective duties on French goods with the wording "For wrong and disgusting behavior." What? You can only talk to m * mi in their language, they understand it best.
    45. +1
      13 March 2015 13: 25
      The paddling men decided to give a handout to maintain the pants. The Americans of these candy wrappers will still print.
    46. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 28
      Well, let's see from what place the Americans will get money, like that naked girl in a taxi!
    47. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 32
      Quote: bulvas
      Somehow strange, with this liner order

      The state does not order cruise ships, especially in the states.

      Booked by a private cruise company

      What is strange then? They don’t want to shoot the counter on the Mistrals, and through the dummy they act!
      Although everything is clear to everyone, legally not provable, for which the calculation!
    48. msm
      msm
      +2
      13 March 2015 13: 32
      Medvedev will not demand money. He needs an iPhone 6.
    49. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 36
      To recover money from the frogmen for construction, a penalty for failure to fulfill orders, two feeds made in Russia and let them continue to serve the mattresses !!!
    50. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 40
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, that’s the compensation from Washington.

      The Mistral contract was for several billion, sort of. A cruise ship will hardly pull in 500 million.

      Plus, as noted above, liners are ordered by private companies and not by the state.
    51. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 45
      Yes, it was France’s sovereign decision on the Mistrals. no one advised them.
    52. +1
      13 March 2015 13: 46
      By the way, yes, why don’t ours exchange the French military Mistrals for a normal civilian cruise ship and launch it on the line Caucasus-Crimea-Srdz.more, or, say, Leningrad-Kaliningrad-London-New York-Havana, I would save up for such a cruise.
    53. msm
      msm
      0
      13 March 2015 13: 50
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, that’s the compensation from Washington.

      This is not compensation. This is money for construction: materials, energy, depreciation, wages, etc. Compensation is when they simply give money - take it. Americans will never allow themselves to do this! It is we who forgive everyone’s debts... forgetting our people.
    54. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 50
      Now the French definitely have money to pay
    55. 0
      13 March 2015 13: 53
      Many people here talk about the French - why? These are their problems!!! Let them do what they want!!! They just fulfill the contract and that’s it! Nothing personal just business.

      And we will sort out our problems.

      I personally feel better because the situation has finally become clearer!!! Now it’s clear that these troughs will not be given to us!!! Better a terrible ending than endless horror.

      We turned this page and moved on.

      In any case, we are in the black - the contract for fighter aircraft with India has advanced!!! By the way, maybe this is our karma for not supplying air defense systems to Iran at the time?
      1. +1
        13 March 2015 16: 03
        They nationalized the French supermarket chain Auchan in Russia - and forgot this episode.
    56. +1
      13 March 2015 13: 56
      It’s easier for the French to convert finished Mistrals into cruise ships. There are all sorts of bars...
      But these cruise ships will not be able to enter Russian ports. More precisely the opposite....
    57. -3
      13 March 2015 13: 59
      I don’t care about the money, they’ve lost trust, that’s the main thing!
      1. msm
        msm
        +2
        13 March 2015 14: 46
        You are just like Deribaska - throwing billions...
        1. 0
          21 March 2015 01: 11
          those. are you ready to neglect honor and trust for the sake of money?
    58. +4
      13 March 2015 14: 08
      When the crests cut up the Ulyanovsk on the slipway, the Americans also promised them a big contract for a tanker in return, but then they disappeared somewhere...
    59. 0
      13 March 2015 14: 25
      Quote: bulvas
      Somehow strange, with this liner order

      The state does not order cruise ships, especially in the states.

      Booked by a private cruise company


      Obama ordered it for himself and his bosses so that they could use it to get the ball rolling in the event of a naughty situation.
      Or just for their bosses, to gather them all together on it and... They will call it “Titanic”, don’t go to a fortune teller :)
    60. Bormental
      +1
      13 March 2015 15: 04
      That's right, there's nothing for paddling pools to do in the arms market. And instead of Rafales, we will supply dryers to the Indians.
    61. 0
      13 March 2015 15: 35
      The food is Russian - we do what we want with it. Two torpedoes and we torpedo the two sterns of the Mistrals. Enough with the paddling pools that were sold to the fascists in the last century.
    62. +1
      13 March 2015 16: 06
      The Americans will cheat the French and fool them, as they have done more than once.
    63. 0
      13 March 2015 16: 38
      Russia, frankly speaking, doesn’t care... let the paddling pools pay what is required under the contract. And then - who will order what for them... I think the Americans are not completely crazy to pay for them. A publicity stunt, nothing more.
    64. 0
      13 March 2015 18: 17
      Let them at least build rafts, and give back our money and the penalty
    65. +1
      13 March 2015 20: 41
      Thank you Hollande for licking the USA...! drinks
    66. 0
      13 March 2015 20: 43
      God is not Eroshka, he sees a little. winked They received the advance, but did not fulfill the contract. The Americans will avenge us, they won’t pay for our work.
    67. 0
      13 March 2015 20: 53
      “When the French began to have a story with the “pass it or not pass it on” “Mistral”, the Americans invited them to build a large airliner for themselves

      The great migration of Americans to Europe is coming, and the “ark” has already been ordered. laughing
    68. 0
      13 March 2015 22: 04
      This is all clear. But why not return the money and pay the penalty? There is complete silence about this. And ours are painfully soft. Interesting....
    69. 0
      14 March 2015 13: 40
      Well done mattress makers, they completely ruined the sovereignty of France and Hollande. Now all states will look with caution and fear at this French shipbuilding industry (and not only at all French enterprises), since they are controlled by the United States. Who would want to enter into contracts with them? Only the USA is on its mind: they have lowered the prestige of the French, but in the future they will place orders at home and not give them to the guardians. So you need paddling pools...

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