"American" Eastern Front

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"American" Eastern Front


The P-39 Aero Cobra is the most "Russified" Lend-Lease aircraft. Almost 5000 of these fighters were sent to the Soviet Union, which accounted for more than half of all aircraft of this type, or more than a third of all American aircraft transferred to us during the war.

The reason for this is that for the battles on the Western Front and in the Pacific Ocean, the R-39 fighters were little adapted. This probably explains the fact that most of the “thirty-ninths” were transferred without special pity to the Bolshevik Soviet Union. And the USSR only benefited from this. “Cobra” was successfully suited for the conditions of the Soviet-German front, where the main determining force was the ground forces, which fought decisive battles of the Second World War on the entire giant stretch of the eastern front. Air battles aviation led, as a rule, at small and medium altitudes up to 5000 meters. Here, an American fighter (speed 585 km / h at an altitude of 4200 m) could demonstrate its best qualities - ease of control, good acceleration performance and survivability. But first of all - weapons, under which the unusual design of the aircraft was developed by the young and slightly adventurous Larry Bell and Robert Woods.

The best advertisement for this fighter was made by pilot Alexander Pokryshkin, the future air marshal and three times Hero of the Soviet Union. Having retrained in the 1943 year from the MiG-3 to the Aerocobra, Pokryshkin scored the most part of his 59 air victories on her.

The P-39 became the second Bell fighter established in 1935 as a result of the separation from Consolidated. Lawrence Bell, who had previously been the vice president of Consolidated, became its founder and head. Initially, engineers and workers "Bella" engaged in the release of parts for the flying boat "Catalina". And the first serious task of the new company was the development of the XFM-1 “Aerocud” fighter. They built 13 experienced "Aerokud" YFM-1, but the military refused to mass production of an unusual aircraft.

XFM-1 Aerocuda

In 1936, under the leadership of designer Robert Woods and Garland Poyer, work began on a multipurpose single-seat all-metal fighter, the main armament of which was to be the 37-mm gun. For convenient placement and maintenance weapons engineers have proposed the original layout. The engine was placed behind the cockpit, the shaft passed under the floor and through the gearbox set in motion the screw. A cannon was placed in the free bow, which went out through the barrel of the propeller. Above the gun was a pair of large-caliber (12,7 mm) synchronous machine guns.



The pilot was located in a spacious cabin, entering it through a side door, as if by car. The aircraft received a new chassis scheme with a nose front wheel, providing better visibility on takeoff and landing. The main landing gear was hydraulically cleaned in the lower part of the wing, and the front - in a special compartment under the gun. The fighter was installed 12-cylinder V-shaped engine of liquid cooling "Allison" V-1710-17 with HP 1150 power. with a turbocharger.

After getting acquainted with the project, the command of the Aviation Corps in October 1937 of the year ordered the firm Bell to build a prototype, designated the XP-39 and its own name, Air Cobra. In April, test pilot Jimmy Tylor 1939, raised a new fighter from the Wright Field airfield.

On the experimental XP-39, the weapons were not installed, and the lighter plane behaved quite briskly in the air. The car gained altitude in 6100 m in five minutes, and the maximum speed reached 628 km / h. Such high data satisfied the military, and soon followed an order for 13 experienced VP-39.

The first prototype continued to fly, and on it, based on the test results, made a number of improvements. First of all, they abandoned the unreliable supercharger and installed the Y-1710-39 engine (1090 hp), which lowered the performance of the aircraft at high altitudes. The size of the car has also changed: the wing span has been reduced from 10,92 m to 10,37 m, and the total length of the aircraft has grown from 8,7 m to 9,07 m.

With modifications, the prototype received the XP-39В index and for the first time took off in October 1939 of the year, having a weight of 2930 kg. The fighter’s data got a little worse - 6100 minutes were now taking up the 7,5 m and the maximum speed at 4575 m was 603 km / h. Nevertheless, the YP-39, which is already under construction, also decided to abandon the unreliable supercharger, finding that with such characteristics the aircraft looks quite promising.

The first YP-1940B, which took off in September 39, differed from it in the V-1710-37 engine and the installed armament. The 37 caliber gun that fired through the bow of a propeller had an ammo of all 15 shells. Compared to the project, the machine guns were reinforced, and a pair of large-caliber (12,7 mm) barrels with 200 ammunition ammunition was added by two more machine guns of the 7,62 caliber mm with a set of 500 cartridges. Naturally, the take-off weight of the experienced Aero Cobra grew and reached 3285 kg.



Sailors became interested in the new Bell aircraft. Back in November 1938, the fleet ordered the construction of a deck modification of the XP-39, which received a preliminary Model 5 index at the company. Paradoxically, the aviation command fleet skeptical of such an innovation as the layout of the chassis with the nose wheel. Therefore, the “deck”, on assignment, was supposed to have the usual scheme with a tail wheel and brake hook for landing on the deck.

With the engine XV-1710-6 (still just brought), the plane received an experimental "naval" index XFL-1 and the name "Aerobonite". Armament for the marine version of the Cobra has not changed. But on its first flight in May, 1940, the XFL-1 has so far left unarmed.

The main problem during the tests was the unreliable work of the test engine, therefore it was not until February 1941 of the year that the sea pilots began to seriously fly on the Aerobonite. In addition to the engine, there were problems with insufficient chassis strength, which called into question a safe landing on an aircraft carrier. By December 1941, the XFL-1 had to be returned to Buffalo for rework. And after the attack of the Japanese aircraft carriers on Pearl Harbor, the interest of the fleet command to the new car quickly faded.

The leadership of the US Army Aviation Corps was more supportive of the Bell fighter. Three weeks before Pearl Harbor, there was an order for the first batch of X-NUMX serial P-80C machines. Shipments began in January 39. Aircraft differed slightly from the YP-1941. All fuel tanks were made protected, and the number of machine guns increased by two barrels. Two 39-mm machine guns in the nose were removed, but now, under each plane, a pair of the same barrels, firing outside the propeller area, were installed. Of the aircraft ordered in 7,62, only 80 aircraft were P-20C. The remaining 39s received the P-60D index and differed in the ventral node for hanging the 39-kg bomb or fuel tank on the 227 l.

Soon, the US Air Force ordered an extra 923 P-39D. But even earlier, the Bell company offered its fighter to Great Britain and France. In April 1940, the British Commission signed a contract for the supply of new cars to England.



The Bell staff used every opportunity to make the Aercobra like the British. The fighter lightened by a ton (for this, almost all the equipment was removed), the surface of the airframe was polished and redrawed, which made it possible to reduce aerodynamic drag. After these tricks, the Americans, without being distraught, suggested to the allies to be convinced of the excellent flight data of their car - the lightweight fighter accelerated to 644 km / h and had a flight range to 1610 km. Americans have always been able to offer their goods without thinking about conscience and honesty. Naturally, when the serial copies of the P-39 arrived in England, their performance was much worse.

In August 1941, the first 11 fighters were delivered to the British Isles. In Norfolk, conducted operational tests of the "Air Cobra". The results disappointed the British. First of all, the speed of the serial car was lower on 50 km / h than indicated by Bell. Takeoff distance reached 686 m, and part of the runways, which exploited the Hurricane and Spitfire, became unsuitable for the work of the American fighter. When using weapons, a large amount of powder gases fell into the cabin. In addition, the return when firing almost immediately led to the failure of the gyrocompass, and the British pilots considered this drawback to be the most serious.

Four "Cobras" flew to Manston base to participate in combat operations. From here, the fighters performed an 4 departure for striking German ships off the coast of France. But due to the lack of the necessary number of spare parts and serious shortcomings discovered, already in November 1941, the British took the aircraft off their weapons. The purchase order for the remaining machines has been canceled.

The Soviet Union was saved from collapse by Bell. The assembly of export aircraft at the Bell plant in Buffalo was not stopped, since the Aircobra was offered a lend-lease by the USSR. In our country, the first cars arrived from the UK. Decommissioned aircraft in December 1941, the British offered the Red Army along with the Hurricane fighters. During 1942, the 212 Aerocobre allied convoys delivered to Murmansk and Arkhangelsk, losing their vehicles with sunk 54 vehicles.

Wary of the quality of incoming equipment from the Allies, the command of the Soviet Air Force conducted its own tests and fine-tuning of the American fighter for a whole year. When tested in the USSR, three experienced test pilots died. A significant role in fine-tuning the "Air Cobra" played the famous M.M. Gromov.

Not confirmed, as usual for American technology, many of the characteristics of the company. Suffer and reliability of overseas technology. Most often, combat pilots complained of engine failure. The reason was established easily - "Allison" refused to work on domestic grades of oil. After a more thorough filtration of the oils, the failures ceased. Longer had to tinker with another problem - at the limiting modes of engine operation, the connecting rods broke, punching the crankcase. After laboratory research and flight tests, the Air Force Research Institute issued recommendations to combatant pilots on the most favorable engine operating conditions. These activities have reduced the frequency of such accidents.

But the most serious and intractable "disease" "Air Cobra" has become a flat spin. After the shooting of the ammunition was completed, the alignment of the vehicle shifted back and provoked it from entering this mode. Finally, with a corkscrew managed to cope only on the later versions of the aircraft.

With the development of pilots P-39 increased the efficiency of their use. 15 June 1942, in the vicinity of the Murmashi airfield, six Cobras intercepted a German Bomber Bf-110 bomber force. In the 9 air battle, the Germans managed to shoot down, our pilots had no casualties.

Particularly dangerous was the service of the pilots of the Northern Fleet. Protecting convoys and ports from the air, the pilots in the event of an accident or damage doomed to almost death - the icy waters of the Barents Sea did not leave a chance to survive. The first in the fleet were the Aircobras of the pilots of the 2 Guards Iap, who, after the death of B.F. Safonov began to bear his name. The combat successes of the regiment are eloquently indicated by the fact that until the middle of 1943, all the komeski became Heroes of the Soviet Union. At that time, Heroes were assigned at least 10 downed German aircraft.



In 1941, Bell received an additional order from the USAF for 336 aircraft of the P-39D-1 version. In addition, most of the already ordered P-39D also completed the standard D-1. With a constant glider, engine and weapons significantly modified equipment and chassis. To reduce the weight reduced ammunition machine guns. The oxygen system was transferred to low pressure, because the non-standard high-pressure system was unreliable. In addition, any of the two oxygen cylinders could explode like a bomb from a stray bullet.

179 aircraft from unrealized English order in December 1941 of the year entered the US Air Force to counteract Japanese aircraft over the Pacific Ocean. At the beginning of 1942, the military situation in the region was tense, and the crews of the "thirty-ninths" waited for a difficult service. The Japanese almost everywhere had superiority at sea and in the air and, with their great combat experience, were considered a very serious adversary. And on the "Air Cobra" to intercept planes with red circles on the wings often rose "green" youth.

Japanese fighter "Zero" surpassed "Air Cobra" in almost all the main indicators - speed, climb and maneuverability. At the height of the difference in the "class" was felt even more acutely, and sometimes "Cobras" simply could not perform the interception. They didn’t add optimism to the pilots and frequent failures of 37-mm guns.

Due to the low, in the opinion of the Americans, the effectiveness of the "thirty-ninth" aircraft increasingly began to play the role of attack aircraft. It is in this capacity that the Air Cobra did a good job at Operation Torch - the landing of Anglo-American troops in North Africa. At the end of 1942, the Р-39 of two fighter groups of the USAF began to land at airfields in Morocco. Protecting the Allied convoys, the pilots of the same air groups participated in the landing of Sicily in July 1943. Especially for ground attack flights, the P-39D part was released in sub-versions D-3 and D-4. The aircraft were distinguished by armor protection of radiators and the installation of two cameras from the bottom of the fuselage. Thus, the Air Cobra mastered another profession - aerial reconnaissance.

In the 1942, Aero Cobra was transferred to another anti-Hitler coalition ally, Australia. In July, the 22 Fighter P-39D and P-39F (with a new propeller of the larger diameter Aeroproducts) were part of the Green Continent's Air Force. Five more cars flew in the next year. They were installed as a gun caliber 37 mm and 20-mm. Australians feared the landing of Japanese troops on the continent and carefully strengthened their army and aircraft. When, at the end of 1943, the threat of seizing the country was over, all the Cobras returned to the United States.



Portugal became another owner of Bell's aircraft. But in this case no contracts and agreements were signed. In December 1942, the American pilots overtook the Aero Cobra from England to North Africa. By mistake, the planes landed in Lisbon and neutral Portugal confiscated all the vehicles, introducing them into their air force.

The first truly mass modification was the P-39N, released in a series of 2095 aircraft. The P-39N was equipped with a V1710-85 engine (1200 hp) and the Aeroproducts propeller with the largest diameter among all Aero Cobras - 3,53 m. reinforced armor, hanging units for bombs and cameras.

But the most massive was the modification of the P-39Q - 4905 machines were rolled out of the shops in Buffalo. With the same propeller set-up as on the P-39N, the new Cobra changed the rifle arsenal. Arms in the nose remained unchanged - one gun M4 caliber 37 mm and two 12,7-mm machine guns. But in each plane now instead of two machine guns on 7,82 mm, one large-caliber (12,7 mm) was installed. In addition to the standard Aeroproducts screw with a diameter of 3,53 m, there were four-lobe screws of the same diameter and three-lobed smaller size (3,36 m) on the machine parts.

The most famous pilot of the Air Cobra, of course, was Alexander Pokryshkin. He started the famous ace on the P-39D, and then switched to the P-39Q. Pokryshkin's regiment received American fighters at the beginning of 1943, near Baku. Here “Cobras” of option “D” arrived along the so-called “southern” highway - through Iran.



From the first hour of his acquaintance with the American fighter, Pokryshkin learned about the main shortcoming of the Cobra. Here is how he describes it: “Before leaving for the front, the navigator of the regiment was performing difficult pilotage at low altitude. The plane suddenly fell into a corkscrew. Heights for the withdrawal was not enough, and "Air Cobra" crashed into the ground. Looking at the smoking funnel, in which the wreckage of the aircraft was burning down, I thought that the Air Cobra did not forgive mistakes in piloting. This disaster confirmed the opinion of American pilots. They were afraid of the Air Cobra and reluctantly fought on it. ”

Nevertheless, the fighter liked Pokryshkin right away - a comfortable cabin and powerful armament. The main thing was to carefully study the behavior of the Cobra in the air in order to fully master the overseas plane. The Germans were a very serious adversary, but they could successfully fight P-39 and with them. For more efficient use of the American aircraft, it was sometimes necessary to use Russian ingenuity. So, on the Air Cobra it was an inconvenient location of the gun trigger. Pokryshkin proposed a simple and effective solution - he redid the descent of all weapons on an airplane into a machine gun trigger. Now when you click on it, the fighter threw a powerful portion of the lead of all calibers.



But Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin wrote about other machine flaws: “The Cobra did not tolerate those who leave it in the air” - when the pilot had to leave the plane, being thrown out with a parachute instead of up, often injured or even died when hitting tail. With intensive maneuvering due to high overloads, the tail plumage was deformed, jammed steering wheels. Due to the inability to quickly find out and eliminate the causes of this flaw, the pilots were temporarily barred from carrying out intensive maneuvers, which is equivalent to a ban on conducting air combat. But they were not exempt from combat work during the search for the causes of defects. And the pilots went into battle, and part of them died "not in battle, but from the unforgivable mistake of the creators of technology." Not only hastily trained wartime pilots, but also experienced pilots were broken. ”

The main part of the serial P-39Q hit the Soviet Union, and only a few hundred Aero Cobra with the letter "Q" entered service with the US Air Force. In February, the 1944 of the year, the 75 P-39Q of the 332 th Fighter Group, relocated to Italy. But their service on the Apennine Peninsula turned out to be short-lived, and after a few months “Cobras” were replaced by “Thunderbolts” P-47. Such a picture was observed everywhere, and by the end of the war the "thirty-ninth" had practically disappeared from the advanced combat units of the US Air Force. The Americans preferred the Mustangs and Thunderbolts, while the Cobras passed on to training and support units. Several dozens of P-39Qs were converted into double TR-39 training rooms. The cab continued forward, and the cadet was sitting in the bow, from which all the weapons had to be removed.

The serial production of Aero Cobra was ceased in the 1944 year, but work to improve the performance of the machine did not stop. Three P-39D decided to fly around with the experimental engine "Continental" V-1430-1, assigning them the XP-39Е index. In addition to the new engine, the aircraft had a laminar wing profile and tip ends of more square-shaped planes. All three cars differed from each other with a keel, which also, compared to the rounded tail of the Air Cobra, was performed with straightened outlines. Flying cars did not last long. In March, the XP-39E crashed. In April, it was replaced by a second XP-39E, which with the V-1710-47 engine accelerated to 621 km / h at an altitude of 6608 m. In September, the third experienced XP-39E joined the flights. On the basis of these machines were going to release a serial fighter under the symbol P-76. The military even called the order number - 4000 aircraft, but still the release of the P-76 did not take place.

However, the XP-39E tests led to the creation of an improved production version of the Air Cobra - the Kingcobra P-63 fighter. King Cobra also had a laminar wing and, with a V-1710-93 engine (1325 hp), had a maximum speed of 660 km / h. And this option was sent to the Soviet Union in large quantities - from 3300 copies of Kingbox 2400 machines flew with red stars.

P-63 Kingcobra.

The Americans, replacing the Air Cobra with more modern fighters in the front squadrons, transferred part of the Thirty-Nine to the new allies. After the landing of the Anglo-American forces in North Africa in November 1942 in France, France joined the British coalition and American aircraft began to enter into service with her aircraft. 165 Cobra P-39M and P-39Q became part of the Free French Air Force. In 1944, the French Aerocob park has increased. The “cobras” of the first republic were actively used in combat operations in the north of Italy, supporting the allied forces from the air.

Another ally in the anti-Hitler coalition has become more in 1943 year. September 8 Italy concluded an armistice with the United States and the United Kingdom, declaring a rupture of relations with Germany. The country was essentially split into two parts. Also turned out to be separated and the Italian Air Force. Now the Allied Command was subordinate in the south about 200 Italian aircraft, but these were, as a rule, obsolete machines.

Strengthen the military aviation of the country decided to bombers "Martin" "Baltimore", fighter "Spitfire" and "Air Cobra". 75 P-39Q and 74 P-39N transferred from the 15-th Air Force US Army. The pilots recorded their first sorties in the 18 flight books of September, appearing in the skies of Albania. In the future, "Cobras" with Italian identification marks could be seen over the Mediterranean Sea and the Balkans. Their main task was to fly to ground attack, and the losses from anti-aircraft fire turned out to be significant. By May 1945, only 89 P-39 remained in the ranks, which ended their flight career in the same year as training in aviation schools.

With the end of the war, the Air Cobra and the USAF disappeared very quickly. The "thirty-ninths" France exploited the longest - the last cars flew up to 1947. Soviet "Cobras" participated in combat missions until the surrender of Germany, and then were also written off.

At the end of 1940's, the name Aerocobra continued to be mentioned quite often in American aviation magazines. But these were not the memories of veteran pilots, but reports about aviation races. In 1946, the national American air race in Cleveland won the Tex Johnson, speaking at the lightweight P-39Q. He showed an average speed of 601,73 km / h at a distance of 10 circles in 48,3 km. On the 1948 races of the year, Charles Brown on the same machine, but with a V1710-63 engine (2000 hp) from Kingcobra, overclocked one of the laps to a maximum speed of 664,64 km / h. This result remained the best for all variants of the "thirty-ninth".

The Acocobra P-39 fighter is a vivid example of those airplanes that look like a world breakthrough in their class on paper, but in fact the car leaves a completely different purpose and characteristics. Having an unusual layout, the plane had some outstanding qualities and, ultimately, turned into a good fighter-attack aircraft, who fought in many parts of the world.



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  1. +12
    13 March 2015 06: 47
    The tendency to stall into a flat spin could not be eliminated on the Aircobra, even the next version of the Kingcobra plane suffered from this dangerous "ailment". This disadvantage was caused by the design of the aircraft, which had a rear engine location and hence rear alignment.
    1. +29
      13 March 2015 08: 09
      In addition to the tendency to stall into a tailspin, the Cobra was not very manoeuvrable at low altitudes. The pilots in their memoirs noted that at low altitudes she flew like an iron. The same Pokryshkin A.I. flew at high altitudes. Dive from there, strike, and up. At altitudes of 5-6 thousand meters, she was already a worthy competitor to German fighters. At the same time, only pilots with good training could fly on this aircraft, as well as on MiGs. Therefore, these aircraft were re-equipped with guards vengeful regiments, or those that had already proven themselves in battles.
      There is one more peculiarity in the operation of the Aero Cobra in the Air Force of the Red Army and among our allies. The Anglo-Saxons flew them according to the instructions, and therefore could not take from the car everything that it was capable of.
      Our pilots (and Pokryshkin noted this in his memoirs) squeezed everything out of the car, often going out to modes that were prohibited by the instruction. Bell set the aircraft’s initial resource in 250 hours, and then increased it to 400 hours. In our regiments, Aerocobra aircraft were deducted after 50-80 hours (due to exploitation at maximum speeds).
      Hence, apparently, a different attitude to the machine of our pilots and allies.
      But, here's what you can’t take away from Bell specialists, is a quick reaction to comments and suggestions for improving this aircraft.
      1. +6
        13 March 2015 08: 43
        Quote: Gamdlislyam
        But, here's what you can’t take away from Bell specialists, is a quick reaction to comments and suggestions for improving this aircraft.

        But the deformation of the corps was recognized only after our pilot flew to the Yankees and showed them this ailment, and corrected it only at the end of the war.
        1. +5
          13 March 2015 09: 04
          Quote: ShadowCat
          But the deformation of the corps was recognized only after our pilot flew to the Yankees and showed them this ailment, and corrected it only at the end of the war.

          I can't say anything about the confessions, dear colleague. However, in the memoirs of the engineering and technical staff on the site "I Remember" I recalled mentioning that Cobras were reinforced with linings from repair kits received from America, in the places indicated in the attached Bell instructions. There were also mentions of overlays that reinforced the fuselage of the car on the recommendation of the Air Force Research Institute.
          And by the end of the war there was nothing to correct, because R-39 production was discontinued in 1944. Later, the R-63 was produced.
      2. +9
        13 March 2015 09: 05
        And in the article and in the comments no one said about the chassis with the nose wheel, and at that time it was a breakthrough innovation. From the muddy airway, often only Cobra could fly up.
        1. +10
          13 March 2015 10: 44
          Quote: MooH
          And in the article and in the comments no one said about the chassis with the nose wheel, and at that time it was a breakthrough innovation

          One of the main advantages of this aircraft for which much could be forgiven. In the end, everyone writes that the P-39 had problems with the strength characteristics of the tail, but they try not to recall the insufficient strength of the Yakovs.
          But the fact that on taxiing and take-off the view from the cockpit of the R-Z9 was the best among single-engine fighters is a fact. In addition, visibility forward and down is very important when looking for an opponent. Here at Aerocobra, because of the engine behind the pilot and therefore the cabin advanced forward (the wings did not block the view forward and down), there were no competitors among single-engine fighters.
          Somewhere else I met that in diving the P-39 showed very good stability, which made it possible to use it as a light diving bomber.
          It was a good car. But in skillful hands, and with the "zoom-boom" tactics, it is generally excellent, as demonstrated by Pokryshkin.
          1. 0
            13 March 2015 11: 52
            The disadvantages were also:
            The main drawback of Aerocobra was the danger of getting into a tailspin even with a minor pilot error, which resulted in accidents. The reason for this was the rear position of the engine, which, on the one hand, made the aircraft very maneuverable, but on the other, created an increased threat of a corkscrew. A similar problem was on the Soviet I-16 fighter, which, like the “Aerocobra”, was very maneuverable, but very difficult to control, which also led to numerous accidents. In both cases, the increased risk of accidents was due precisely to the high maneuverability of the aircraft. In order to avoid a catastrophe, Soviet pilots took special short-term courses at which they were taught measures to avoid a corkscrew and to get out of it. In later models, this problem was partially solved, but the threat of getting into a tailspin still remained very high. For an experienced pilot, flying an Aerocobra was safe enough, but for beginners, the threat of a crash was great.
            Another drawback of the aircraft was the cockpit door, which was installed instead of a backward-moving flashlight, as was the case with other fighters. According to the creators, the door was to facilitate the entry and exit of the pilot from the cockpit. However, if the pilot was thrown out of the plane with a parachute sideways (and not up), he was in danger of getting injured on the tail of the car. Therefore, this feature of the aircraft was a clear mistake of designers.
        2. Artem1967
          +1
          13 March 2015 11: 59
          The aircraft received the latest landing gear with a nose front wheel, providing better visibility on takeoff and landing.

          It is said exhaustively. Apparently, they did not read the article carefully. The combat use of "Airacobr" is well written in the book by A.I. Pokryshkin "Knowing Yourself in Battle".
        3. erg
          +1
          13 March 2015 13: 19
          How about Voisin from the First World War.
      3. +2
        13 March 2015 12: 54
        Quote: Gamdlislyam
        In our regiments, Aerocobra aircraft were deducted after 50-80 hours (due to exploitation at maximum speeds).

        when operating as a front-line fighter, the count was rather spent not on hours, but on the number of sorties. The dust of unpaved airfields was quickly planted by American engines.
        1. +2
          13 March 2015 13: 16
          Quote: brn521
          Quote:
          Quote: Gamdlislyam

          In our regiments, Aerocobra aircraft were deducted after 50-80 hours (due to exploitation at maximum speeds).

          when operating as a front-line fighter, the count was rather spent not on hours, but on the number of sorties. The dust of unpaved airfields was quickly planted by American engines.

          Gamdlislyam’s colleague is right. 50-80 is not just a watch, it’s a motor hour, i.e. engine resource. It is the engine life that determines the possible number of departures.
      4. +2
        13 March 2015 14: 00
        Quote: Gamdlislyam
        In addition to the tendency to stall into a tailspin, the Cobra was not very manoeuvrable at low altitudes. The pilots in their memoirs noted that at low altitudes she flew like an iron. The same Pokryshkin A.I. flew at high altitudes. Dive from there, strike, and up.

        Here! Deficiencies in technology are offset by tactics of combat use.
        Pokryshkin’s victory formula - height - speed - maneuver - fire was the best fit for the P-39. Better than any other fighter.
        Air combat begins with the discovery of the enemy. Here Aerocobra has an advantage over ALL single-engine fighters.
        Height - Converts to Speed. (you can no longer think of a corkscrew)
        Maneuver - rapprochement with the enemy at maximum speed (surprise attack) with a favorable position for firing.
        Fire - point-blank, when the rivets on the enemy's plane are already visible from all the barrels at once (here the low rate of fire of the gun and its small ammunition load are not so important, in combination with machine-gun fire, 1-3 shells are enough) and escape with the climb using the speed reserve ... The zoom-boom tactic is ideal for the Aircobra.
        Of course, in the "carousel" or, as they called it abroad, in the "dog dump" at low altitudes, La-5FN and probably even the Yak-9 were slightly better than the P-39.
        But the time of massive air battles of fighters on bends is the First World War, Khalkhin Gol and the beginning of MV2. And since the middle of the Second World War, the "zoom - boom" tactics have already reigned in the European theater of operations.
        1. jjj
          +1
          13 March 2015 19: 32
          Quote: Normal
          But the time of massive air battles of fighters on bends is the First World War, Khalkhin Gol and the beginning of MV2. And since the middle of the Second World War, the "zoom - boom" tactics have already reigned in the European theater of operations.

          Read memories of Korea. There again, from vertical maneuvers, I had to switch to horizontal turns
          1. 0
            13 March 2015 22: 18
            Quote: jjj
            Read memories of Korea. There again, from vertical maneuvers, I had to switch to horizontal turns

            Interesting. Give the info to the source.
            I think that everything is not simple and there are reasons for everything.
            I will not argue because I do not have info on air combat in Korea
      5. 0
        14 March 2015 00: 45
        “The same Pokryshkin AI flew at high altitudes. He dives from there, strikes, and up.
        At altitudes of 5-6 thousand meters, she was already a worthy rival of German fighters. "////

        Americans have always attacked like that. All their heavy fighters were sharpened for attacks.
        top-down, without getting involved in "dog dumps".
        The Americans and Thunderbolts offered Lendliz, they were tested by testers, but inadvertently refused
        from American instructor pilots. And Thunderbolt required a special flight style.
        Two crashed and the command said: "Don't."
        1. 0
          16 March 2015 17: 48
          And Hartman also fought
        2. 0
          16 March 2015 17: 48
          And Hartman also fought
      6. 0
        14 March 2015 00: 48
        They tried to build an airplane of a similar scheme with us, but they immediately failed.
      7. +2
        14 March 2015 02: 05
        Quote: Gamdlislyam
        Our pilots (and Pokryshkin noted this in his memoirs) squeezed everything out of the car, often going out to modes that were prohibited by the instruction. Bell set the aircraft’s initial resource in 250 hours, and then increased it to 400 hours. In our regiments, Aerocobra aircraft were deducted after 50-80 hours (due to exploitation at maximum speeds).


        Clarification is not an airplane, but an engine.
        The company was struggling to increase motor resources (100 hours on the plane - a good result for that time). 250 hours is VERY worthy. But at the same time, operational modes were limited.
        Naturally, in the playful hands of our kulibin, the resource fell to 25-50 hours on the plane, but the engine significantly added to the characteristics, to the point that significant superiority was achieved over the Bf-109 on the verticals.
        They explained to the indignant representatives of the manufacturer (there were such ones at the aircraft parts) that if this is not done, the plane does not fly along with the 250 clock engine anyway - it will be knocked down. So the Americans drove motors to replace almost meekly)))
        Typically, the aircraft had time to change the 3-4 motor before decommissioning, and sometimes more.
      8. +1
        15 March 2015 18: 09
        absolutely to the point ... a good fighter is not without flaws ... but it was very useful (weapons and at least some altitude ICE ... but still not BF 109))))
    2. +5
      13 March 2015 13: 36
      Quote: La-5
      The tendency to stall into a flat spin could not be eliminated on the Aircobra, even the next version of the Kingcobra plane suffered from this dangerous "ailment". This disadvantage was caused by the design of the aircraft, which had a rear engine location and hence rear alignment.


      Bf-109 was inclined to stall into a corkscrew at low speeds, and this despite the front engine position.
      But the rear position of the engine eliminated such a problem as splashing oil on the lantern of the cabin. To combat this, the Germans even made a system for washing the windshield with gasoline. It is no secret - whoever first noticed the enemy already has an advantage. And in the air and at high speeds, the enemy fighter is visible from afar as a dot on the glass. If the cabin lantern is splashed with oil and soot particles, then finding the enemy first is problematic. So here at Aerocobra, with its engine location - an advantage.
  2. +4
    13 March 2015 06: 50
    But after all, a chic airplane, and what an awesome weapon for those times
    1. +4
      13 March 2015 09: 11
      imba weapons at the time


      Phew! On the Yak-9T and LAGG-3-34 there was a much more powerful NS-37 gun! Compared to the M-4 and M-10, her projectile was more powerful and the ballistics better.
      And there was also the Yak-9K.
      1. +2
        13 March 2015 10: 25
        Quote: kavad
        and LAGG-3-34

        By the way, the Germans often in the first half of the war considered LaGG 3 to be the most dangerous because of its powerful weapons.
        1. +1
          13 March 2015 11: 08
          and ours called it "lacquered guaranteed coffin" -
          Pilots noted the particular danger of an easy breakdown in a tailspin, since aerial combat often develops near the ground and, although the plane easily leaves the tailspin, it does not always have enough height.
          According to the pilots, the Germans in recent days have noticed a predisposition of the LaGG aircraft to stall into a tailspin and began to use a vertical maneuver with an upward movement during the battle. Messerschmitt performs this maneuver reliably, due to the presence of slats, while for LaGG this maneuver threatens to stall into a tailspin.
          1. +8
            13 March 2015 11: 24
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            and ours called it "lacquered guaranteed coffin"

            It all depends on the level of pilot training. Which incidentally applies to the MiG-3. LaGG-3 incidentally was very reluctant to burn. You can recall the memories of Barkhorn, where he mined 40, twisted carousels against LaGG, and having failed to gain any advantage, the planes dispersed.
            1. -1
              13 March 2015 12: 01
              Quote...
              You can recall the memories of Barkhorn

              Gerhard Barkhorn is certainly great, but how do you like this memory:
              in 1941, Stalin, distrusting the words about the “incombustibility” of delta wood, tried to ignite a sample of material from the fire of his own pipe
              1. +6
                13 March 2015 13: 02
                Dear colleagues, do not repeat the myths about LaGG-3, which appeared in abundance in the late 80s - 90s.
                First, delta wood ended with the outbreak of war. The reason is simple. Raw materials for it were mined in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, and components for resins (impregnation) came from Germany.
                Secondly, the aircraft were forced (during the war) to make Siberian pine with all the ensuing consequences.
                This was well described by the doctor of historical sciences Stepanov Alexey Sergeevich in his monographs. There are statistics of aircraft accidents during the war years. So, LaGG-3 and the first La-5 series were the most emergency aircraft in the Red Army Air Force during the war years.
                So the nickname “Lacquered Guaranteed Coffin” was not born from scratch.
                And for those who want to learn more about the opinions of pilots about LaGGs, I recommend going to the "I Remember" website and reading the recollections of war veterans who piloted these aircraft.
              2. 0
                13 March 2015 14: 19
                Quote: Serg 122
                in the 1941 year, Stalin, not trusting the words about the "incombustibility" of delta wood,

                I don’t know if it’s true or not. But about the non-flammability of the Lavochkin, they summoned Lavochkin to Stalin, and he asked why it happened, to which he said that it happened by itself. Yakovlev later rebuked him for not saying to Stalin that they were the fruits of design ideas and all that.
                1. +2
                  14 March 2015 09: 49
                  Quote: tomket
                  I don’t know if it’s true or not. But about the non-flammability of the Lavochkin, they summoned Lavochkin to Stalin, and he asked why it happened, to which he said that it happened by itself. Yakovlev later rebuked him for not saying to Stalin that they were the fruits of design ideas and all that.

                  Actually, dear colleague Alexander, in his book A. Shakhurin (at that time people's commissar of the aviation industry) this reproach to Lavochkin S.A. relates to his account.
          2. +6
            13 March 2015 19: 52
            I read from someone in a memoir that
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            ours called "lacquered guaranteed coffin"
            similar decoding appeared already in the post-war years, at the time of Khrushchev. And during the war years the veteran did not hear such a thing and thought that LaGG-3 was better than Harikkein and Р-40 on which he happened to fly.
            Why about them like jokes was not?
          3. +3
            14 March 2015 23: 00
            varnished guaranteed coffin

            Bullshit. Ours called him - the Royal!
            And about the guaranteed coffin - this bike appeared much after the war in the book of some pseudo-historian.
      2. +6
        13 March 2015 17: 38
        The fighters you indicated were practically very rarely used at the front because the 37 mm gun mounted on them turned out to be too powerful for the fighter - when shot due to recoil, the plane literally crashed in the air and each shot from this gun had a very detrimental effect on the airframe - This is especially true for the Yak with its initially very light wooden structure. As a result, the resource of the glider was very quickly developed. Incidentally, the 3 mm Shpitalnaya Sh-37 cannon with an ammunition load of 37 rounds - modifications K-20 (Gu-37), LaGG-37 type 3 was initially installed on LaGG-38.
        Now about LaGG with the NS-37 gun
        LaGG-3 (34th production series) - anti-tank modification - were adapted to deal with enemy tanks. These aircraft instead of the 20 mm ShVAK gun carried a 37 mm NS-37 gun. The rate of gun - 250 rounds per minute, ammunition - 12 rounds. Externally, fighters of the 34th series differed in a longer barrel protruding from the cowl fairing. In addition to the cannon, aircraft of the 34th series were armed with a 12.7mm UBS machine gun, located in the same place. The first LaGG-3 (about 40 vehicles), armed with the NS-37 cannon, appeared at the front near Stalingrad in the autumn of 1942. Tests in combat conditions showed that in the role of a tank destroyer LaGG-3 is not effective enough. The flight characteristics of the cannon LaGG were even worse than that of the serial machines, since the installation of the massive NS-37 greatly shifted the center of gravity of the aircraft. Fuselage damage caused by recoil was very common. As a result, the 34th series became one of a kind.
        Now about the Yaks - large-caliber:
        A Yak-9T fighter with a 37 mm caliber MP-37 (NS-37) motor cannon and ammunition (with careful laying of the tape) up to 30 rounds were built in accordance with the GKO decree of December 1942. The firing of a 37-mm gun was accompanied by strong recoil and rocked the plane at speeds less than 350 km / h. Aim fire could only be fired with one or two
        first shots, subsequent shells scattered, and the longer the line, the lower the accuracy. However, this was also characteristic of LaGGs with the Sh-37 and NS-37.
        Yak-9K - modification of the Yak-9T but with a 45-mm automatic gun NS-45 (created on the basis of NS-37, a barrel with thin walls, equipped with a muzzle brake, the cartridge is created on the basis of the cartridge sleeve NS-37, with the newly developed 45- mm shell). The disadvantages are the same as for an airplane with a 37 mm cannon. The Yak-9K did not go into a large series.
        It should be noted that both LaGGi and Yaki with large-caliber cannons were used mainly to combat enemy armored vehicles, to attack low-maneuverable and relatively slow-moving bombers, and also showed high efficiency in blocking enemy airfields.
        On the combat effectiveness of the Yak-9T gives an idea of ​​the report on the combat use of this machine:
        In early July 1943, 34 Yak-9Ts entered the 27st Guards Stalingrad IAD and the 6rd IAD of the 16th IAK (XNUMX VA, Central Front) for military tests.
        A month before August 6, pilots performed a total of 150 sorties - Yak-9T and 78 times entered into air battles with the enemy. Despite the fact that the battles took place in mixed battle formations with the participation of other types of fighters, the Yak-9T accounted for 49 wins out of 54 shot down FW-190 fighters, four - Me-I09, 31 diving bomber Ju-87, 14 bombers Ju-88 and seven - He-111.
        Their losses in battles amounted to 12 Yak - 9T, and non-combat - three vehicles. At the same time they used up
        1503 rounds for a 37 mm gun, 8958 for a ShVAK and 16820 for a UBs machine gun. On average, 15 rounds for NS-37, 124 for ShVAK and 123 for UBs were spent on one enemy aircraft shot down.
        I have the honor.
      3. +4
        13 March 2015 18: 35
        Quote: kavad
        Phew! On the Yak-9T and LAGG-3-34 there was a much more powerful NS-37 gun! Compared to the M-4 and M-10, her projectile was more powerful and the ballistics better.
        And there was also the Yak-9K.

        As usual, we are in pursuit of high absolute indicators. The power of a gun and the best ballistics are certainly good .... on paper and for propaganda purposes in the style of "our weapons are the best!" But more doesn't mean better.
        The Germans also stepped on this rake deciding to produce the most powerful, the best Tiger tank. The result is known.
        No less important than caliber and ballistics, and in battle even more important is how the gun works, how balanced the automation is.
        What is the use of the huge caliber, projectile power and high ballistics if, due to the powerful recoil after the second or third shot, the car goes astray, the speed drops and the aircraft structure is destroyed?
        1. +4
          14 March 2015 02: 24
          Quote: Normal
          No less important than caliber and ballistics, and in battle even more important is how the gun works, how balanced the automation is.
          What is the use of the huge caliber, projectile power and high ballistics if, due to the powerful recoil after the second or third shot, the car goes astray, the speed drops and the aircraft structure is destroyed?


          Depends on the goals. If there is a fight with fighters, then it would be better to have a lot of machine guns and ammunition, as on the Americans. The goal is small, it’s difficult to get there, but enough of a single hit to bring down.
          And Yu-88 or Xe-111 is hard to shoot down. He, if that, will leave on one engine, and arrows can upset. And with a large caliber, one hit - and that's it, the bird is ready ...
          EMNIP, Golodnikov recalled something - they used it just that way - ordinary Yaks were connected by battle fighter coverings, and bombers gnawed at a thick barrel.
        2. +4
          14 March 2015 02: 33
          Quote: Normal
          What is the use of the huge caliber, projectile power and high ballistics if, due to the powerful recoil after the second or third shot, the car goes astray, the speed drops and the aircraft structure is destroyed?

          Publication on this subject: Tsar Cannons of Soviet Aviation
          http://topwar.ru/31818-car-pushki-sovetskoy-aviacii.html
          1. 0
            15 March 2015 18: 28
            Quote: Bongo
            Publication on this subject: Tsar Cannons of Soviet Aviation


            Your article only confirms my opinion.
            Massive use of large-caliber guns on fighter jets did not take place.

            In general, as you know, the Tsar Cannon never fired, the Tsar Bell never rang, and the Tsar Tank could not move.
            1. +4
              16 March 2015 01: 12
              Quote: Normal
              Your article only confirms my opinion. Mass use of large-caliber guns on fighters did not take place. In general, as you know, the Tsar Cannon never fired, the Tsar Bell never rang, and the Tsar Tank could not move.

              I agree with your opinion ... Yes Although our aviation "king cannons" fired, the use of a caliber of more than 23 mm on single-engine machines was inappropriate.
        3. -1
          15 March 2015 21: 31
          But more does not mean better.


          We read more carefully why I wrote this. Comrade Hans said that the Aircobra has "imbue weapons." You will not argue that the M-4 and M-10 are better than the NS-37? And why more, if the caliber is the same - 37mm? What is the easiest way to shoot down a bomber, once out of 37mm, or 20-30 times out of 20? And as for the recoil - none of the 37mm cannons poured into the white light as a pretty penny!
          Which Typhoon is better - with 12 machine guns 7.62 or with four 20mm Spans ?!

          And as for the Tiger - the Germans were let down by the amount of variety of technology, and not specifically the Tiger!
          It was more practical to produce not a shitty bunch of different types of tanks and self-propelled guns, but 3-4, but in bulk.
          And finally, what does the Tiger have to do with it, if the Germans from the 33rd year released tanks and self-propelled guns less than ONLY thirty ONE fours the USSR released? The USA has released ONLY ONE Sherman almost as many. And, oh yes, the Tiger is to blame for everything!
  3. +3
    13 March 2015 07: 10
    Quote: La-5
    even the next version of the Kingcobra plane suffered from this dangerous "ailment".
    And then Bell had to invite to the USA the Soviet - test pilot Andrei Grigoryevich Kochetkov and engineer Fedor Pavlovich Suprun, brother of the famous pilot Stepan Suprun. It was thanks to them that the Americans were able to improve the situation with a flat corkscrew on Kingcobra. It seems that initially Kingcobra suffered from this deficiency more than Aero Cobra.

    In general, with all the advantages of the flaws, the Aerocobra had no less. It seems like a powerful weapon, but only 15 shells at the gun, etc.
    1. 0
      13 March 2015 07: 42
      Quote: qwert
      It seems like a powerful weapon, but only 15 shells at the gun, etc.

      In this case, the velocity of the projectile was very small. It was possible to shoot from a cannon only from close range. Otherwise, the enemy managed to dodge if he discovered an attack. In the shots of the machine gun, you can see how the shell flies, like an abandoned stone.
  4. +8
    13 March 2015 07: 46
    I think that Aercobra is not the best plane. What is only a car door mounted in the fuselage.
    Yes, Pokryshkin flew on it - our super ace, who brought up a galaxy of aces. Give Alexander Ivanovich Mustang or Spitfire I suspect that the accounts of the downed planes would be like those of the best German aces
    1. +9
      13 March 2015 08: 37
      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      I think that Aercobra is not the best plane. What is only a car door mounted in the fuselage.

      Dear colleague, it was convenient to board a plane and get out of it through such a door on the ground.

      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      Yes, Pokryshkin flew on it - our super ace, who brought up a galaxy of aces. Give Alexander Ivanovich Mustang or Spitfire I suspect that the accounts of the downed planes would be like those of the best German aces

      The reasons for the lack of astronomical accounts at A. Pokryshkin rather, not in the cars on which he flew, but in the tasks that he performed. The first year of the war, when Pokryshkin A.I. flew on MiGs and Yaks, most of the missions were reconnaissance flights, the rest on escort and attack. On Cobra, most of the flights were for escort or patrolling in a specific area. But, what’s interesting, the pilots, who were accompanied by fighters under the control of Pokryshkin, noted that at that time the German fighters for some reason disappeared, or stayed apart and made no attempt to attack. As a result, the task is completed, but there are no downed enemy aircraft.
      The Americans put about a hundred mustangs on Lend-Lease (1944). When tested, they did not inspire our pilots. The aircraft was found to be unsuitable for the front. On our front there were no battles at the heights for which it was intended. But at medium altitudes, they were already inferior to both the German and our cars. What proved Kozhedub I.N. over Berlin
      1. +5
        13 March 2015 09: 30
        Quote: Gamdlislyam
        Give Alexander Ivanovich Mustang or Spitfire I suspect that the accounts of the downed planes would be like those of the best German aces
        And our best aces. in terms of aerial combat, the indicators were not so bad at all. For example, for comparison: Kozhedub, Ivan Nikitovich -Number of sorties / air battles 330 / 120 , 64 lichnor shot down +2 American fighter P-51 Mustang, trying to attack Ivan Kozhedub. Hartmann, Erich Alfred - Number of sorties / air battles 1400 / 825 , 352 wins. Both pilots fought since the summer of 1943, but the German managed (an interesting question) to conduct seven times more air battles.
        1. +1
          13 March 2015 10: 59
          Well, the advantage in airplanes after the 43rd was with us, so the Germans had a greater chance of meeting enemy aircraft. According to sorties, fighters were based closer to the front line.
      2. +6
        13 March 2015 10: 34
        Quote: Gamdlislyam
        But, what’s interesting, the pilots, who were accompanied by fighters under the control of Pokryshkin, noted that at that time the German fighters for some reason disappeared, or stayed apart and made no attempt to attack

        The Germans had a whole service, according to the definition of those who are fighting against them in this sector of the front. So, for example, you can recall the memoirs of Golodnikov, where the fact of the Germans' unwillingness to get involved with the Red-Nosed Guards Cobras is also cited. As a kind of incident, you can recall the case when a group of solid middle-class pilots, not aces, was assembled, put them on a Yak-7b, and painted the noses of the Yaks red. This group was named "Thunder". And in battle, when this group was sent for reinforcement, the Germans, seeing the red-nosed Yaks, began to act uncertainly, and then completely panicked, losing the air battle.
      3. +1
        13 March 2015 14: 59
        We were supplied with early Mustangs that did not have outstanding performance. They are in no way comparable to later modifications in terms of speed, not in terms of armament.
    2. +4
      13 March 2015 10: 19
      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      Give Alexander Ivanovich Mustang or Spitfire I suspect that accounts of downed planes would be like the best German aces

      The statistics of the Germans in his memoirs today are being called into question, keep this in mind.
      1. -5
        13 March 2015 11: 23
        Quote: 0255
        The statistics of the Germans in his memoirs today are being called into question, keep this in mind.

        I don’t think it’s worth trying to rewrite the story because of this.
        Of all the warring countries, it was the Germans who had the most stringent accounting system for downed aircraft. And even the pilot became an ace after 5 downed planes, and not like the rest of the belligerents after 3.
        I do not think that anyone should be offended that the Nenets are born "warriors". We, on the other hand, occupy a solid second place, significantly ahead of the American-British-Italian-Japanese.
        1. +3
          13 March 2015 11: 27
          I would add that the accounts of the Germans who shot down the strategic bombers of the Allies are difficult to dispute - because the planes fell in the territories of the Germans controlled. Even the serial numbers of downed planes reached. And there are also bills for hundreds.
        2. +2
          13 March 2015 12: 07
          Quote: Lord of Wrath
          The Nenets are born "warriors". We, on the other hand, occupy a solid second place

          Do you think the sequence is exactly that? A moot point.
        3. +2
          13 March 2015 17: 10
          rigid accounting system ??? nothing like this! not every real episode counted for us
        4. -2
          14 March 2015 13: 01
          5 just because even their command understood that their "ases" were lying.
    3. 0
      13 March 2015 10: 29
      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      Give Alexander Ivanovich Mustang or Spitfire I suspect

      Spitfire in our troops did not take root, due to the location of weapons on it. it was necessary to calculate the convergence of the parallax lines. In addition, in the Kuban he was confused with Messer. And he was quickly pushed into the air defense. Mustang, like Thunderbolt, according to our pilots, was overweight.
      1. erg
        0
        13 March 2015 13: 35
        In addition, spitfire was sensitive to unpaved airfields. Due to the design of the chassis, he was prone to hooding, which was especially evident on the ground. In the Murmansk region, where, after the war, a certain number of spitfires were operated in the air defense units (in my regiment. If my memory serves me well), taxiing technicians had to take off in the tail section over the fuselage.
    4. 0
      14 March 2015 02: 33
      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      Give Alexander Ivanovich Mustang or Spitfire I suspect that the accounts of the downed planes would be like those of the best German aces


      The usual number of shots from both our and German aces is 1 shot down on 2-3 sorties. (Isaev believed).
      The difference in accounts is due to the different tactics of using fighter aircraft. The Germans flew stupidly more. Sometimes on 6 sorties per day. This is VERY much. Ours, even in very difficult conditions, usually did not do more 2. Hartman had EMNIP sorties under 1500, Barkhorn had 1100, Pokryshkin had 600.
  5. 0
    13 March 2015 08: 29
    Somewhere in the materials devoted to the events in Antarctica - the mysterious story of the defeat of the American squadron by unknown vehicles shortly after the war, it was mentioned that at one of our stations there was a monument to the pilots made of the "King Cobra" propeller. The fact itself speaks volumes.
  6. +6
    13 March 2015 08: 29
    One of the P39 pilots noted (maybe Pokryshkin) that one of the best things about her was a radio station, very high-quality, which made it possible for everyone in the group to communicate and know the situation in the air without any problems. Chassis - with bow stance - prevented rollover. Convenience of management and placement. For example, in La5, to increase the speed, it was necessary to perform 6 actions, and in the cockpit it was 50 degrees because of the design features.
    The P39 was better suited for fighting on the eastern front than Spitfire and Mustang.
    1. Montrey
      +7
      13 March 2015 09: 42
      heat was the eternal problem of shopkeepers
      1. +2
        13 March 2015 10: 18
        Of the 5 best aces of the USSR - http://www.opoccuu.com/air-aces.htm - 2,3,4 fought on Aero Cobra, 1 and 5 on La5. If you count the number of downed for 1 fight - Gulaev 0,83, it turns out the best he flew on an Aero Cobra.
        Of course, P39 is not ideal, and a flat corkscrew and features of leaving, but, judging by the results of the Soviet aces, it is very good.
        If there were no problems with the engine, undercover games, I185 Polikarpova could well be the best machine in service with the SA, and maybe even the best. But a bet was made on mass character, as with Il2, t34.
        1. 0
          13 March 2015 19: 47
          On Aircobras planted experienced pilots, all because of this very rear centering. Therefore, there are more aces.
      2. +2
        13 March 2015 10: 36
        Quote: montrey
        heat was the eternal problem of shopkeepers

        Like the Fokkers.
      3. +2
        13 March 2015 17: 12
        and focke-wulfs
    2. +3
      13 March 2015 10: 13
      Radio is a good thing, but read G.T. Beregovoy, "The sky begins on earth", remember why he called it a chest :)
      La-5, due to its powerful motor, had a high temperature near the pilot’s feet ... Well, I'm sorry, there were no resources in the warring country for thermal insulation ...
      1. +1
        13 March 2015 10: 23
        Quote: vladimir_krm
        La-5, due to its powerful motor, had a high temperature near the pilot’s feet ... Well, I'm sorry, there were no resources in the warring country for thermal insulation ...

        ... In addition, during the La-5 tests, a serious machine defect was revealed - a high temperature in the cockpit, and the Gu-82, judging by the reviews of Su-2 pilots with a similar power plant, was not ...
        ... Possessing high flight characteristics, the La-5 had many unrepaired defects. So, according to the figurative expression of the military pilot, and later the famous writer Anatoly Markusha, "the pilots were tormented by the African heat in the cockpit, and the soles of the sergeant's tarpaulins were sintered and cracked after ten flights" ...
      2. +6
        13 March 2015 10: 49
        From Drabkin:
        Mikoyan - ... AeroCobra radio stations put on our planes ...
        Golodnikov - ... The view from the cockpit was excellent. The dashboard is very ergonomic, with the whole range of instruments, up to the horizon and the radio compass. There was even such a urinal in the form of a tube. You wanted to pee, pulled it out from under the seat - and please. Even the pen and pencil holders were. Bulletproof glass was powerful, thick. The armor plate is also thick. At first there was armored glass both front and rear, but the armored back was without an armored head (the rear armored glass performed its role). In the latter, somewhere around starting with Q-25, there was no rear armored glass, but the armored back became with an armored head. The oxygen equipment was reliable, and the mask was miniature, it just covered its mouth and nose. We put on a mask only at a height, after 20 thousand feet, usually it was lying on a machine gun. The radio station was powerful and reliable, HF. Received-transmitted very cleanly.
        About the gun
        ... What were the flaws. 1. Low rate of fire - 3 rounds / sec.
        2. The ballistics of the shell are bad. A steep projectile flight path, which required large lead times, but this is again at long distances, especially when firing at ground targets. On ground lead I had to take out the two “rings” of the sight ahead. 3. The ammunition is small. Thirty shells.
        All these shortcomings were leveled by the correct choice of the firing distance. That's right - it’s from 50 - 70 meters, then there was enough rate of fire, and the ballistics in this section are acceptable, and the lead should be minimal. So all of the above disadvantages of the 37 mm guns appeared only at long distances.
        Now about the merits. 1. The shells are very powerful. Usually one hit in an enemy fighter and ... that's it! In addition, after all, they shot not only at fighters. Bombers, boats. For these purposes, the 37 mm was very effective 2. The M-4 was a very reliable cannon. If this gun had failures, it was only through the fault of completely unqualified service ...
        ... I can’t say anything about the “weak tail”. Everything was fine with us.
        The fact that “beat the stabilizer”, then it was necessary to comply with certain rules. First: never open both doors, but only one. If you open one door, then only stick your head out - you will be pulled by a stream of air, and if two - you’ll get out of this cabin. Second: tighten your legs ...
        In general, Golodnikov has quite a lot of things written, as I understand his general impression is favorable.
    3. +2
      13 March 2015 11: 04
      But what can I say, there was even a toilet.
      But you're right, one of the important advantages of the cobra, as Pokryshkin noted, is the radio, excellent radio, and also powerful weapons and good dive speed, even higher than that of the bf-109, which allowed them to catch up or, if necessary, successfully flush.
      1. -2
        13 March 2015 12: 49
        That's about the speed of the dive - don't be fooled. Until the end of the war, the "Messer" had no competitors. So it remained the fastest diving ...
        1. +6
          13 March 2015 14: 02
          Well, firstly, with the BF-109G6 and subsequent at a speed of 600 km \ h, the force on the RUS by ailerons increased to over 700 N \ m (which probably did not contribute to the pilot’s desire to maneuver this way). And secondly, with the FV-190 with a dive always it was better, there’s nothing special to consider, the motor is more powerful, heavier itself, the flutter limit of the structure is more than 900 km \ h (according to TsAGI reports on A4 tests March 43g).
        2. 0
          13 March 2015 17: 17
          but but but ! Mackey 7 Italian seems to have overtaken with an engine from Bf-109g
  7. Montrey
    +3
    13 March 2015 09: 48
    opinion of the German pilot Gunter Rall


    At that time, the Americans did not send the best examples of their technology here. In “Aerocobra,” the pilot sat through the side door, which was necessary to get used to, and which raised the question of how, if necessary, one could quickly leave the car. Many did not succeed, because the engine of the aircraft was located behind the pilot, between whose legs a hollow shaft passed through the entire cabin, propelling the propeller. If it gave a turn to the base of one of the wings, the apparatus would lose stability, and the center of gravity located behind would force the aircraft to go into an energetic tailspin, which most often made it impossible to open or reset the door. Fuel tanks and gas lines were also located in the car in such a way that if it was possible to take a position to open fire behind it, it was, in principle, not important where you got, - she always caught fire.


    Good opinion about the American's "backside". After all, usually any fighter of that time was well protected from behind, but the "Cobra" was by no means the opposite.
    1. +2
      13 March 2015 10: 56
      Quote: montrey
      After all, usually any fighter of that time was well protected behind,

      ?????
      The fighter’s back usually has only the pilot’s armored back and ... that’s it.
      And the P-39 has an engine at the rear, a screw reducer in front, plus an armored plate in front of the cabin (indicated by the number 7 in the diagram)
  8. +1
    13 March 2015 10: 15
    Quote: montrey
    Fuel tanks and gas lines were also located in the car in such a way that if it was possible to take a position to open fire behind it, it was, in principle, not important where you got, it always caught fire.


    At the end of the seventies and the beginning of the eighties from war veterans, I heard that the Allied planes were burning from any hits, unlike ours. It still surprised me. How so? They have metal cars, we have wooden ones. It should be the other way around. But here is a view from that side of the front, and exactly the same. It turns out that our cars were actually more tenacious.
    1. erg
      0
      13 March 2015 13: 29
      Just magnesium enters the duralumin alloy. The melting point of duralumin is about 650 degrees. When heated to this temperature, he himself maintains combustion. A tree. impregnated with resins, combustion does not support. It burns in a flame, but not only smolders in it.
      1. +7
        13 March 2015 13: 52
        Quote: erg
        Just magnesium enters the duralumin alloy. The melting point of duralumin is about 650 degrees. When heated to this temperature, he himself maintains combustion.

        You are wrong, duralumin does not support burning in air. The Mg content in the main brands of duralumin used in aviation during the war was extremely small. Even in modern duralumin alloys, it does not exceed 3%.
      2. +3
        13 March 2015 14: 13
        Quote: erg
        . A tree. impregnated with resins, combustion does not support. It burns in a flame, but not only smolders in it.

        In aviation gasoline and at a speed of more than 200 km / h EVERYTHING burns, not like a wooden frame and duralumin lining. there is rather a problem in the location of fuel tanks, gas lines and their protection.
        1. +1
          13 March 2015 19: 43
          I agree that the whole secret is this.
      3. jjj
        0
        13 March 2015 20: 00
        Quote: erg
        Just magnesium enters the duralumin alloy.

        Amg-15 alloy burns no worse than sparklers with sparks
        1. +3
          14 March 2015 02: 29
          Quote: jjj
          Amg-15 alloy burns no worse than sparklers with sparks

          And this is duralumin and this alloy was produced during the war?
    2. +1
      13 March 2015 14: 25
      This stereotype is caused by the fact that the pilot of the caught fire "American" (like the BF-109) returned relatively often, and had the opportunity to express his displeasure. And the pilots who were burning on Soviet / Japanese fighters could complain (in the overwhelming majority) only to Archangel Michael.
      1. +2
        13 March 2015 19: 42
        I will not say about the planes, but the metal bridge in the fire lives 40 minutes, and the wooden bridge is an hour and a half. With strong heating, the stressed metal quickly loses its properties, and the tree needs to burn for a certain number of percent of the volume. Did not invent. Firefighters talk about such an incident.
      2. 0
        14 March 2015 02: 44
        Quote: Argon
        This stereotype is caused by the fact that the pilot of the caught fire "American" (like the BF-109) returned relatively often, and had the opportunity to express his displeasure. And the pilots who were burning on Soviet / Japanese fighters could complain (in the overwhelming majority) only to Archangel Michael.


        You know, you surprised me so much that I allow myself to ask you for at least one link to a description of such a case.

        Of course, there is always the option to try to bring down the flames with a sharp maneuver, and pilots quite often did this ...

        The champions in strength are truly Americans. Even the case is known when Khlobystov won two victories by ramming on the P-40 in one air battle and after that landed the plane at his airfield.

        But to return to the burning fighter ...
  9. +5
    13 March 2015 10: 32
    Not a bad post "+". But I would like to correct the author:
    Retraining in 1943 year with MiG-3 on "Aerocobra", Pokryshkin won most of his 59 aerial victories on it.
    In the interval between MiG and Aerocobra - A.I. Pokryshkin fought for some time on the Yak-1. He wrote about this in his book "The Sky of War".
  10. +4
    13 March 2015 10: 43
    I am only interested in 1 question: why does the domestic MINCULT give a day for a different (...), and there is not a single (!) HF about Pokryshkin or Kozhedub ??? There is not a single movie (!) About the ground attack pilots on IL-2, there are no films about anti-tank players on 45, no films about sailors on torpedo boats. And further everywhere. Medina, are we paying you a salary? tongue
    1. +2
      13 March 2015 12: 10
      There are films about sailors on torpedo boats, for example "The Secret Fairway", but there were films of a much earlier period.
      1. +3
        13 March 2015 14: 41
        Well, the Jews in general have a rather ambiguous attitude towards that war, they cannot show the truth, because. the next step will be to admit that someone saved them, hence the forced change of position from "universal sufferers" to "infinitely grateful and indebted" and owed to whom? -VOE. That's where all sorts of "anticipations and saboteurs" appear on the movie screen, where everyone the collar on the eversion and the enemy commissars more than the Germans.
    2. +2
      13 March 2015 14: 23
      Quote: avia12005
      I am only interested in the 1 question: why does the domestic MINKULT give a different day (...), but there is not a single (!) HF about Pokryshkin or Kozhedub ???

      "Only old men go to battle" The image of the captain Titorenko is collective.
      The famous "weakling" is Pokryshkinskoe.
      And "Maestro" is V.I. Popkov - twice hero of the Soviet Union, undeservedly remained in the shadow of Pokryshkin and Kozhedub

      1. 0
        14 March 2015 13: 12
        By the way, a fighter pilot with the name Titarenko really existed. Kramarenko mentions him in his memoirs.
  11. = BY = SERG
    +1
    13 March 2015 10: 47
    Quote: Gamdlislyam
    Quote: Lord of Wrath
    I think that Aercobra is not the best plane. What is only a car door mounted in the fuselage.

    Dear colleague, it was convenient to board a plane and get out of it through such a door on the ground.

    Quote: Lord of Wrath
    Yes, Pokryshkin flew on it - our super ace, who brought up a galaxy of aces. Give Alexander Ivanovich Mustang or Spitfire I suspect that the accounts of the downed planes would be like those of the best German aces

    The reasons for the lack of astronomical accounts at A. Pokryshkin rather, not in the cars on which he flew, but in the tasks that he performed. The first year of the war, when Pokryshkin A.I. flew on MiGs and Yaks, most of the missions were reconnaissance flights, the rest on escort and attack. On Cobra, most of the flights were for escort or patrolling in a specific area. But, what’s interesting, the pilots, who were accompanied by fighters under the control of Pokryshkin, noted that at that time the German fighters for some reason disappeared, or stayed apart and made no attempt to attack. As a result, the task is completed, but there are no downed enemy aircraft.
    The Americans put about a hundred mustangs on Lend-Lease (1944). When tested, they did not inspire our pilots. The aircraft was found to be unsuitable for the front. On our front there were no battles at the heights for which it was intended. But at medium altitudes, they were already inferior to both the German and our cars. What proved Kozhedub I.N. over Berlin

    I somehow made one more conclusion for myself regarding a different stat for Kozhedub and Hartman, for example, although they both flew from about the same time. Kozhedub has several times fewer sorties; he would fly as much as Hartman, maybe he would shoot for two hundred. According to Wikipedia, Kozhedub made 330 sorties and shot down 62 Germans, and Hartman - 1404 and 352, respectively.
    1. +6
      13 March 2015 11: 17
      not entirely true, Hartman mainly flew free hunting and was free to choose goals and tactics. Pokryshkin, too, often flew for free hunting, unlike most of our fighters, but still the lion's share were cover missions. And most importantly, explaining the reason for the huge number of declared victories among German pilots, this is their ability to concentrate all their forces in the direction of the main attack, the tactics used (free hunting), excellent preparation and just a huge number of goals. Our pilots mainly had to repel attacks from the guarded IL-2s (it was forbidden to break away from attack aircraft and engage in battle), while those who flew for free hunting did not have as many targets as the Nazis, our aircraft had much more than the Germans, this the small number of victories among the Allies 44-45 is also explained, they sometimes simply could not find German planes, flying in huge flocks of 50-100 aircraft try to divide the Nazi link.
      1. +2
        13 March 2015 11: 36
        Quote: heruv1me
        Hartman mainly flew free hunting and was free to choose goals and tactics

        How was it in Hartman's memoirs? "When my friends and I were drinking schnapps after another gross victory, we were interrupted by my gunsmith. Mr. Hartman! You spent 10 rounds for 10 downed cement bombers! Everyone was quiet around ... And then there was a thunder of joyful shouts!" I'm exaggerating, of course, but the meaning is something like this.
    2. +6
      13 March 2015 11: 22
      I would note that most of Hartman's sorties, like many German experts, were "free hunting". That is, the task is simply to shoot down what I found - as a sport in essence, and not the performance of combat missions to cover their planes, objects, etc. And they attacked, as a rule, the most vulnerable targets, and not necessary from the point of view of the final result of the departure entirely. For example, silts fly under cover to bomb a column. The German ace rushes from a height to a weaker enemy - that is, a cover fighter. Shot down, not shot down, left, again gained altitude, and so on. At this time, the silts smash a column of equipment at the bottom. At the exit, the expert knocked down someone, the column was smashed into the trash without resistance. The expert received his medal and replenished the account - from the point of view of luftaff, the departure is successful)
    3. +4
      13 March 2015 12: 24
      It is necessary to clearly understand the system of counting victories among the Germans and ours. Not a little has been written about this, and it makes no sense to disclose it in detail now. It should only be noted that the huge numbers of victories of German pilots cause real doubts, the fact is that they could count the victory simply by fixing the hit with a photo-machine gun, and this did not always mean the downing of the enemy! Hence such statistics. According to some reports, Pokryshkin and Kozhedub won over a hundred, but they are not officially counted (there is no confirmation
      niya). In addition, the principle of "projectile" cover was to cut off enemy aircraft from wards, the main task is to preserve attack aircraft, bombers or reconnaissance aircraft and carry out their combat missions. In this case, the score of personal victories will naturally not be significant. And for the failure of a combat mission, a tribunal was threatened.
      1. 0
        13 March 2015 13: 32
        Quote: miv110
        In addition, the principle of "firing" cover was to cut off enemy aircraft from the charges, the main task was to preserve attack aircraft, bombers or reconnaissance aircraft and carry out their combat missions.

        Pokryshkin describes the Germans' tactics somewhat differently:
        "The Germans come to the front line in a group of up to twenty fighters to clear the skies before the bombers appear. Then the groups of fighters accompany the Junkers armada. And what do we oppose to them?
  12. +2
    13 March 2015 10: 55
    ...
    and someone tried, well, stupidly add / summarize / all planes shot down by German aces .. ???
    / I think that so many planes did not produce ..oooooooooooooooo
    1. padonok.71
      +4
      13 March 2015 14: 01
      There was also such a topic, group victory, i.e. a link of "messers" knocks down one IL-2, as a result, EVERYONE gets one victory. Great, isn't it? Well, the "postscripts" for Goering's personal reports to the "beloved Fuhrer", they say, look Addik what miraculous heroes I have! Incl. with victories in the 2-3 hundred you need to be more careful.
      Here, for example, take Rudel Hans-Ulrich, flew on the Stuka, made 2500 sorties (well, from 2200 to 2760 along the road), the average maximum flight time of Stuka (according to modifications) is 1.7 hours, in total he destroyed 2400 targets (again from 1860 to 3200 r.d.). We consider and get that this ace every 1.8 hours "sausage" someone! And he has the biggest plaque! The Luftwaffers have characters who "did" on the plane every 40 minutes!
      And if you summarize everyone, then there, I think, SUCH AN ARMADA will work! But it’s very busy.
      1. +1
        13 March 2015 16: 31
        Quote: padonok.71
        40 minutes on the plane "done"!

        If you search, then there are characters who made 10 aircraft in 1 minutes.
  13. 0
    13 March 2015 11: 32
    Although, in general, I did not take anything new from the article for myself, nevertheless I am glad of its appearance - ALWAYS glad to materials about "Airacobra".

    In my opinion, this is one of the most beautiful single-engine fighters of the Second World War.
    What a form!

    And how many unusual technical solutions for that time!


    By the way, in Soviet times I read from Comrade Sukhov, who was flying in a link with Pokryshkin, that the Cobra’s ammunition was not 15 shells, as stated in this article.


    And here, I found:
    see http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/suhov/05.html
    1. 0
      13 March 2015 19: 39
      Quote: Miner
      By the way, in Soviet times I read from Comrade Sukhov, who was flying in a link with Pokryshkin, that the Cobra’s ammunition was not 15 shells, as stated in this article.

      The article about 15 shells talked about the Cobra prototype, and not about serial modifications.
      "The first YP-1940B, which took off in September 39, differed from it with the V-1710-37 engine and installed armament. The 37 mm cannon firing through the spinning screw had only 15 rounds of ammunition."
  14. -8
    13 March 2015 12: 45
    Pokryshkin’s gadgets were remade on instant 3, and not on aerocobra
    1. 0
      13 March 2015 12: 55
      Quote: vanya
      Pokryshkin’s gadgets were redone at 3,

      Why should they be altered on the MiG? On "Cobra" they were altered, because the ammunition was spent unevenly.
  15. +3
    13 March 2015 14: 03
    Quote: vanya
    Pokryshkin’s gadgets were remade on instant 3, and not on aerocobra

    On the "Cobra" they were remodeling. Somewhere it came across that Pokryshkin asked a regiment engineer what he thinks about the reasons that the planes are returning from the battle with empty machine guns, but unused cannon ammunition (the reason was just the unsuccessful location of the gun trigger). It also mentioned the answer to the criticism of an engineer operating the engine at maximum modes: do you need a shot down plane on the ground with an unused engine resource?
    Squeezed out of the plane all that they could ...
  16. 0
    13 March 2015 16: 09
    Liberasts like to tryndet: ah, lendlize, but if not lendlise ... And how much was in good condition, swam, flew to the USSR, and did not drown?
    1. +2
      14 March 2015 03: 09
      The controversial issue about Lend-Lease is actually ... Not the only one, of course they won, but without it it would have been much harder.

      All is well in due time. In the 1942, the P-39 class aircraft was the best in the USSR - their own - the I-16 of the last modifications by the end of 1941 were completely out of date, and the resource was used up. LaGG-3 somehow did not go. Unsuccessful aircraft turned out. Yak-1 was cured of childhood diseases to 1943, MiG-3 was left without a motor - they all left on IL-2 ...
      At that time, ours were for the sake of not just Kittyhawkam (a good one, in general, an airplane, although not outstanding), but even to Harikkeynam (which was frank junk in 1942).
      By the way, back in 1941, the sky of Murmansk together with our pilots was defended by the British (151-e RAF wing). And the fact that the Germans never reached Murmansk - and their merit too.
  17. = BY = SERG
    +1
    13 March 2015 17: 13
    Quote: tomket
    Quote: vanya
    Pokryshkin’s gadgets were redone at 3,

    Why should they be altered on the MiG? On "Cobra" they were altered, because the ammunition was spent unevenly.


    not because. that ammunition is unevenly consumed, but because all the barrels are planted at the target at once, Pokryshkin explains this
    1. +1
      13 March 2015 17: 52
      Quote: = BY = SERG
      not because. that ammunition is unevenly consumed,

      Do not call it, it does not change the essence. and the bottom line is that they forgot about the gun in battle, as mentioned above.
  18. +4
    13 March 2015 17: 41
    Вообще Р-39 выдающийся самолет,что можно сказать о всех проэктах этой фирмы.То,что это удачный истребитель доказывается тем,что почти все наши асы летали именно на них.На мой взгляд до сих пор не существует монографий объективно и достаточно достоверно рассказывающих о этой машине,у нас при СССР и упоминать его название(в мемуарах)считалось плохим тоном.Так же,впрочем как и на западе.Что вызывает довольно противоричивые его оценки,возникновение стереотипов,которые теражируются от издания к изданию.И первый из них это штопор связанный с задней центровкой.В мемуарах,и документах довольно часто упомянается тот факт,что довольно часто машина самостоятельно выходила из штопора(в.т.ч.и плоского)уже после покидания ее пилотом!!!Переходила в отвесное пикирование и гибла.Аналогичное поведение МиГ-15го с центровками не кто не связывал-кардинальное увеличение прочностей планера(МиГ-15бис)решило проблему.Второй;к производству привлекались автоинженеры чем вызванно много"автомобильных"решений,главная из которых дверь.Своя доля правды в этом есть-основная масса инженерного корпуса"Бэлл"(в то время)были молодые выпускники автофакультетов.Но появление дверей в первую очередь связанно со своеобразным видением работы самолета истребителя,военным руководством США-в первую очередь это ударная машина и только потом боец с воздушным противником.Достичь высокого эффекта бортового стрелкового вооружения при штурмовках удавалось с пологого пикирования,на малых высотах,в случае повреждений,воспользоваться парашютом пилоту не хватало высоты-расчет был на то,что летчик будет сажать машину которая с большой вероятностью скапотирует.Одна из двух дверей даст пилоту возможность выбраться из перевернутого самолета.Но наиболее интересен,на мой взгляд вопрос с вооружением.Утверждение,что"аэрокобра"проэктировалась"вокруг пушки"в корне не верно,деньги на разработку и постройку 2х опытных образцов дала коммиссия конгресса по экспорту вооружений,самым желательным заказчиком для фирмы были ВВС,некоторый интерес возникал и у экспедиционных сил флота(теперь это КМП).И у всех были разные,но довольно определенные требования к составу и качеству комплекса вооружения.Отсутствие ясных перспектив вынуждало просто резервировать большие объемы под вооружение.В конечном счете машина пошла с"экспорным"набором,что объясняется подготовкой британского контракта.Сразу же возникли проблемы с английской пушкой"Испано",на фирме предусмотрительно занялись поиском аналога но кроме М-4 в США не чего не выпускалось.Массы установок были соизмеримы а мощность 37мм снаряда гораздо выше,-"не смотря на все свои недостатки перед"Испано",М-4я имела одно существенное приемущество-она все-таки стреляла"-.В СССР(вопреки расхожему мнению)вооружением Р-39 были не довольны-отвратительная баллистика,низкая скорострельность,чувствительность к загрязнению,частые утыкания-все эти нарекания относятся не только к орудию и подътвержденны испытаниями в СССР.В начале 44г представителями инженерной комиссии дип представительства СССР на фирме"Бэлл"был поднят вопрос о комплектовании истребителя трехпушечным комплексом вооружения.Мне изветсно,что американцы запрашивали образец пушки Б-20 в кол-ве 4шт.Что ответили из Москвы я не знаю(большинство документов до сих пор не доступны)но то,что пушки в США не отправились это точно.В дальнейшем про подобные работы не где не упомянается.И"Кобр"с 3мя пушками в природе так и не появилось.
  19. +2
    13 March 2015 18: 49
    Reading about the Cobra plane and the memories of Pokryshkin who fought on it, you can say - VERY GOOD plane. Pokryshkin, having fought on it, suggested making a single descent of the weapon, which was done by mechanics. After that, when you press the trigger of the gun or machine guns, when the enemy got into the sight, everything shot. The second volley increased, the maximum number of bullets and shells hit the enemy, appearing in the sight and at a slaughter distance. After testing Pokryshkin-this event was done on all the aircraft of his regiment, and then the division. (I refer to the memoirs of Pokryshkin, to his memoirs)
  20. = BY = SERG
    -1
    13 March 2015 20: 10
    Quote: tomket
    Quote: = BY = SERG
    not because. that ammunition is unevenly consumed,

    Do not call it, it does not change the essence. and the bottom line is that they forgot about the gun in battle, as mentioned above.


    you can say anything, but Pokryshkin still sought to increase the damaging effect on the target
  21. = BY = SERG
    +2
    13 March 2015 20: 58
    here is literally from memoirs

    Returning to the airfield, I immediately invited Captain Zhmoud, an weapons engineer, to the plane. In a tense battle, I had an interesting idea, I had to consult a specialist.
    The fact is that I brought back a lot of shells. This happened because during the attacks I had to first press the trigger of the machine guns, and then use the cannon. Such a sequence was not dictated by tactical considerations or any calculations. Just two trigger guns were under different fingers, and the machine gun was located more conveniently. And if I sent bullets and shells at the target at the same time, the effectiveness of the fire would be much higher and the "Junkers" would fall down much more "willingly."
    After listening to my thoughts, the engineer said: - You can combine, it is not difficult to do.
    In the next battle from my massive lineup, the enemy bomber almost immediately fell apart in the air. Fellow soldiers who saw this then began to ask how far I had fired, where I was aiming. I revealed my secret to them. The next day, Captain Zhmud tracked me down and began to complain:
    “Well, what have you done!” Now all the pilots are asking to rebuild the trigger.
  22. 0
    14 March 2015 03: 43
    There was a good walkie-talkie on the aerocobra ..... Pokryshkin needed this, needed the ability to control the battle. On our fighter jets she appeared in large numbers at the end of 42. This amersky pepelats had no more outstanding combat qualities !!!!! La 5 and yak1, il2, the most powerful fighters in the air war !!! For the present, nobody supplied us with a good fighter. !!!!! Spitfire, thunderbolt, mutang-latest modifications !!!!!! In addition, while they became the best, we already have our own great ones! By the way, Pokryshkin started with MiGA.
  23. = BY = SERG
    +1
    14 March 2015 07: 45
    Quote: Karampax
    There was a good walkie-talkie on the aerocobra ..... Pokryshkin needed this, needed the ability to control the battle. On our fighter jets she appeared in large numbers at the end of 42. This amersky pepelats had no more outstanding combat qualities !!!!! La 5 and yak1, il2, the most powerful fighters in the air war !!! For the present, nobody supplied us with a good fighter. !!!!! Spitfire, thunderbolt, mutang-latest modifications !!!!!! In addition, while they became the best, we already have our own great ones! By the way, Pokryshkin started with MiGA.


    there were spitfires and thunderbolts, by the way, we didn’t really need mustangs - we did not need to accompany the flying fortresses. And about the thunderbolt, Gallay put it something like this - a good plane, but not a fighter.
  24. +1
    14 March 2015 10: 33
    Based on the NS-37 gun, while maintaining the overall dimensions, an aviation, automatic 45-mm NS-45 gun was created ... The Yak-9K fighter was specially designed and built for this gun ... to meet a large group of enemy bombers at the end of 1944 was a rarity, and there was no special need for such a fighter. According to the results of military tests, the Yak-9K was not launched into mass production ...

    And nothing that herds of B-17 and "Lancaster" of our probable allies were mothing over all of Europe am ? As a rule, in very large groups fellow ? That’s how it became clear that they won’t fly to the USSR, and so the need disappeared soldier .
  25. +1
    14 March 2015 11: 21
    The article is interesting and, judging by the quantity and quality of comments, aroused interest among the readership.
    So nevertheless, was the Aerocobra plane good or medium and was useful only because there weren’t enough fighters?

    The answer to this question, in my opinion, needs to be sought not only in the memoirs of illustrious aces, but also in the training literature on aircraft construction, published several years after the end of the war, as they say, "while the memory is still fresh."

    In this regard, I recommend to study the textbook of AI Sutugin for aviation institutes “Designing aircraft parts” Moscow publishing house “Oborongiz” 1947, where there are a number of sections. dedicated to the aircraft P-39 "Aerocobra". I will not quote sections of the book, because they are quite detailed and go beyond the commentary, I’ll just say that the aircraft as a whole and its individual structural elements were recognized as advanced and rational.

    In battle at heights of up to 5 thousand meters, the Cobra was not inferior in vertical and horizontal maneuver to domestic fighters, the German FV-190 A and Me-109, had powerful weapons and the best take-off and landing qualities. However, quite a lot has been written about this in the comments.
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    14 March 2015 15: 45
    I don’t understand if Pokryshkin A had already had, for example, 20 - 25 victories, why did they give the "aircobra", because it was clear an ace, so give YAK - 3 and LA - 5. He even more Germans, he shot down possessing the best car!
  27. = BY = SERG
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    14 March 2015 18: 25
    Quote: Kornilovist
    I don’t understand if Pokryshkin A had already had, for example, 20 - 25 victories, why did they give the "aircobra", because it was clear an ace, so give YAK - 3 and LA - 5. He even more Germans, he shot down possessing the best car!


    maybe he wouldn’t do it on a yak - he liked to work with increased overloads, but the yaks didn’t take such an approach, EMNIP in the same Pokryshkin’s memoir contains a case of yak destruction during demonstration aerobatics
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    14 March 2015 22: 32
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: erg
    Just magnesium enters the duralumin alloy. The melting point of duralumin is about 650 degrees. When heated to this temperature, he himself maintains combustion.

    You are wrong, duralumin does not support burning in air. The Mg content in the main brands of duralumin used in aviation during the war was extremely small. Even in modern duralumin alloys, it does not exceed 3%.


    aluminum alloys burn with a bang. Look at the pictures from the same Ukraine - wrecked and burned out tanks and armored personnel carriers can be immediately distinguished from airborne vehicles - only caterpillars, engine parts and a gun remain from airborne vehicles - the rest of the corps burns out, as a rule, because it is duralumin. The fleet has the same ambush with modern ships - they burn like candles, as the experience of the Falklands shows
    1. +3
      15 March 2015 05: 11
      Quote: = BY = SERG
      aluminum alloys burn with a bang. Look at the pictures from the same Ukraine - the wrecked and burned out tanks and armored personnel carriers can be immediately distinguished from airborne vehicles - only caterpillars, engine parts and a gun remain from airborne vehicles - the rest of the corps burns out, as a rule, because it is duralumin.

      I’m betting with YOU on any amount acceptable for YOU that the BMD building not duralIt is made of ABT-101 aluminum bulletproof armor. Or for YOU all aluminum alloys duralumin? I repeat again - duralumin burning does not support . But in the event of a fire inside an armored vehicle, not only light alloy armor often burns out, but also steel. I would recommend you before writing frank absurdities to study the issue.
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        15 March 2015 11: 15
        Quote: Bongo
        BMD case is not duralumin, it is made of ABT-101 aluminum bulletproof armor. Or for YOU all aluminum alloys duralumin?

        You are absolutely right Yes ABT-101 alloy is a heat-strengthened deformable, highly alloyed, weldable alloy of the Al-Zn-Mg system with a total content of Zn and Mg up to 9%. Comparing this alloy armor with duralumin alloys is the same as comparing armored high-alloy steel and rolled steel used to make a car body.
  29. = BY = SERG
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    15 March 2015 23: 05
    Quote: Aspeed
    That is, cobras with bent tails did not interfere with him, but suddenly he did not like overloads? Serge, well, on Sukhoi, they’ve sorted it out thousands of times, since they were STRONGER than cobras, simply because the Soviet standards for fighter strength were tougher than American ones.


    The facts of the destruction of yaks were - were. But a lot of things were sorted out on the dry one, but this does not cancel the facts, as well as the level of production at Soviet plants. After all, on Yaks, the percale from the wings was covered so that it even reached Stalin?
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    24 March 2015 21: 55
    So what kind of beast is this, Aerocobra? How good is he? And is he better than our fighters?

    By and large, the quality of a fighter is determined by thrust-weight ratio. That is, the amount of power falling per unit of weight. Examples are well known to all. So the Japanese, not having a sufficiently powerful engine, increased the thrust-to-weight ratio of their Zero by reducing weight, and thus reducing strength. But then they got acceptable flying qualities. On the same path went Yakovlev. LaGG, on the contrary, was made durable, but it was not called otherwise than an iron. This is despite the fact that the prototype LaGG I-100, built in the 39 year, developed a speed of more than 740 km / h. However, he was not a combat fighter. There was no weapons on it at all, a minimum of equipment. This is called a prototype for us. In addition, it was completely metal and possibly flew with an imported engine.

    Both Americans and the British refused AeroCobras just because of weak thrust-weight ratio. But, it is quite possible that our Aerocobras and them are completely different planes. There is nothing paradoxical about this. When creating a new engine, then, when refining it by experience, they select an operating mode in which it gives maximum power. But with an increase in power, the resource decreases. For example, the following numbers can be cited: Tank diesel - 6000 of engine hours, Fighters of the Luftwaffe - 300, Soviet fighters - 200, and at the beginning of the war - 100 of engine hours.

    It is known that in our country Cobras were modified before commissioning. In addition, there were enough “alchemists” in the units. According to the factory instructions, the cobra motor had 400 hours of operation. But in the memoirs of the participants you can even find the figure 50. So, we are talking about an increase in power of the order of thirty percent. And this, in fact, is a completely different plane. By the way, apparently this is also the cause of the flutter problem. Speed ​​increased, and flutter appeared. Formally, the AeroCobra still remains an unremarkable gray mouse that lived according to the factory instructions.

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