Small station "Ladia" will begin to arrive in the army this year

This year, the Russian military will receive the first small-sized tropospheric communication station “Ladya”, characterized by increased noise immunity, reports TASS with reference to a source in the corporation "Rostec".

“Ladia” is the first domestic radio relay tropospheric over-the-horizon communication station with small dimensions. In the interests of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, it was tested as part of the complex "Perspective ACS". It was decided to deliver it to the troops as part of this complex, ”said the source.

According to the interlocutor, “the advantages of the Rook consist in receiving and transmitting information in a limited frequency band using only one operating frequency, high noise immunity, low power consumption and low weight, flexibility and simplicity in deployment and operation.”

He added that a decision had recently been made on the serial production of the Rubikon mobile communications complex based on KamAZ. “Its development was carried out by order of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, but the Russian military was also interested in the complex. We expect that in the future it will also be accepted for supply, ”said the source.

The developer of the complexes is MNIRTI (Moscow Research Radio Engineering Institute).

Comments

[Hubun]

if only they really began to act, and not limited to an experimental sample

[enot73]

Again, the author does not write anything, in fact, about the subject

The troposphere station is intended for:
• organization of communications in mountainous, inaccessible and sparsely populated areas;
• operational organization of communications in emergency situations or in areas of natural disasters.
Specifications:
• frequency range - 4,4-5,0 GHz;
• speed of transmitted information (1; 2; 4; 8) x64; 2048 kbit / s;
• interface - rivers. G.703;
• antenna diameter - 1,25; 2,5 m;
• radiation power - 100 W;
• receiver noise figure - not more than 2 dB;
• the method of separation of transmission and reception signals - time separation;
• frequency bandwidth - up to 32 MHz;
• service channel with A / D and D / A conversion - 1;
• AC power supply - 220 V;
• power consumption - no more than 500 W;
• weight of station equipment (without antenna device) - up to 70 kg.
Terms of Use:
• range of working temperatures from -40 ° С to + 50 ° С;
• relative humidity up to 95% at + 35 ° С.
Competitive advantages:
• small weight and dimensions;
• low power consumption;
• high mobility and short deployment time;
• high speed data transfer.

[Kent0001]

It turns out 2 Mbps. Not bad. You can drive the video signal, though not the highest quality.

[vadsonen]

Only if the receiver is installed directly in front of the transmitter. When transmitting "over the horizon", the interference seizes a significant, if not most, part of the bandwidth.

[CA CA]

The tropics are not relay. Compared to the 412th noticeable progress.

[Throw]

Generally of course ...

for:
• organization of communications in mountainous, inaccessible and sparsely populated areas;
• operational organization of communications in emergency situations or in areas of natural disasters

...
• AC power supply - 220 V;

The socket is where to look for ??

[Hagalaz]

Quote: Lance

Generally of course ...

for:
• organization of communications in mountainous, inaccessible and sparsely populated areas;
• operational organization of communications in emergency situations or in areas of natural disasters

...
• AC power supply - 220 V;

The socket is where to look for ??

Portable generator for what? And the socket is there!

[enot73]

Quote: Lance

The socket is where to look for ??

For me, it would also be better to have an on-board network of 110 Volts, 400 Hertz - there are much less iron and copper in the transformers, but there is one. i.e .

[saag]

Quote: enot73

iron and copper in transformers are much less

Well, to reduce iron and copper, it is enough to make a switching power supply, which is now on any TV and not only

[enot73]

Quote: saag

Well, to reduce iron and copper, it is enough to make a switching power supply, which is now on any TV and not only

It’s also true, a 600 Watt impulse will pull, but the main generator will still have to be made of copper and iron.

[UNFAMILIAR]

Quote: enot73

Again, the author does not write anything, in fact, about the subject

Not in the know? Photo of the station that will go to the troops? It hurts "experienced" she looks

[Gbanderlog]

Only the wires are again hairy, and the plugs are at home in the video recorder. Any non-armored cable with a thickness of less than a thumb in the army will be frayed, torn, or rendered unusable by any other available means. About the plug, dirt and dust I am silent.

[Koshak]

Quote: Gbanderlog

Only the wires are again hairy, and the plugs are at home in the video recorder. Any non-armored cable with a thickness of less than a thumb in the army will be frayed, torn, or rendered unusable by any other available means. About the plug, dirt and dust I am silent.

The cables are most likely in a metal braid (under insulation) and the plugs, judging by the picture, are plug connectors with nuts, similar to those used in aircraft radio equipment.

[mervino2007]

Quote: enot73

receiver noise figure - not more than 2 dB;

What signal-to-noise ratio allows you to work at a specified speed?
What is the communication range in the forest-steppe zone?

[vadsonen]

So there it is written not the signal-to-noise ratio, but the noise coefficient. These are different things.

[Giant thought]

It is encouraging that the communications began to arrive at the level of the best world models, and that was our Achilles heel, but now much has changed in this regard.

[Trailer]

The relief around, like in the Donbass. This is so, by the way.

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Karavan

The relief around, like in the Donbass.

Again, someone went to the fortuneteller. +

[Landwarrior]

What fields with windbreaks only in the Donbass is?
I can name you five heels of areas with exactly the same relief

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Landwarrior

What fields with windbreaks only in the Donbass is?

And what in your perception of a place for jokes left?

[Mugerets]

Dear, then every second man quotes such jokes on the censor, and he truly believes in this. Remember such a poster, Do not talk!

[Hagalaz]

Quote: Mugherets

Dear, then every second man quotes such jokes on the censor, and he truly believes in this. Remember such a poster, Do not talk!

Yes, it would seem so. Yes, only there, even without us, they used nuclear weapons! What kind of connection is there, they can no longer inspire a plate on a tripod.

[Landwarrior]

Quote: subbtin.725

And what in your perception of a place for jokes left?

I understand that the topic is hot and relevant for everyone, but there is a joke in every joke. In this case, the joke is extremely stupid.
When the topic about UA is not a word, do not remember. And so much about her lately.

[Genych]

The relief around, like in the Donbass

That Siberia, that Alaska - two shores. ©

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Karavan

The relief around, like in the Donbass. This is so, by the way.

This is the Rostov Mountains on the shore of the Belarusian Sea.

[Homo]

Post a photo from my window? On the one hand Donbass, on the other Siberia.

[Alexey RA]

Do you really work in the tallest building in Moscow - Lubyanka Square, house 2?

[duchy]

You are by chance not from the ward number 6 ??

[Koshak]

Quote: duche

You are by chance not from the ward number 6 ??

You still have to fight, hot Finnish guys!

[Abbra]

Such messages only warm the heart. Communication is the nerves of the army. Way to go, Russia!

[Alexxas]

there is where to experience the reality

[jovanni]

That's right! For nothing, Alexander Stepanovich Popov invented the first radio in the world! Do not shame the genius ancestor ...

[Colonel]

"Using one working frequency" What is it like ???

[KIL]

Ladya "is the first domestic radio relay tropospheric over-the-horizon communication station with small dimensions. In the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry, it was tested as part of the Perspective ACS complex. It was decided to supply it to the troops as part of this complex," the source said.Let’s guess where she passed the test.

[sas78]

And to the units of which link the Rook arrives (will arrive)?

[vyinemeynen]

the presence of chains in the design gives out simply a masterpiece of technical thought

[Homo]

Quote: vyinemeynen

the presence of chains in the design gives out simply a masterpiece of technical thought

Yes, the designers screwed up! needed titanium cables with nanocoating and invisibility technology.

[Hagalaz]

Well, why immediately minus that ?! Technical ignorance is not a sin though.
In open areas, even with not too strong winds, this antenna has a huge windage! The tripod itself somehow (it is difficult to disassemble from the photo) by the way simply must be firmly attached to the ground, and the stock is already on stretch marks. Cables can get confused during transportation, hard excavations can increase weight and increase oversizedness in any way. So the age-old invention is the best option.

[user]

the presence of chains in the design gives out simply a masterpiece of technical thought

Whatever you say, operational simplicity and reliability have always distinguished Soviet, and, I hope, Russian equipment.

There was a case.
During the development of one of the sensors of the missile guidance systems, the question arose, why make a casing for it from stainless steel 5 mm thick. The question could not be resolved in any way, since another top manager pulled up economists and they yell at the top of their voice that this is unnecessary, it is expensive, and then everything is in the same spirit, in one word, "saving first of all, and on the product it is not at all will be reflected, they say, you are all reinsurers. " Here is just another check, well, the inspector, in the rank of general, was given this problem. Everything was decided very simply, he called a conscript and drove him onto a rocket, without any help or insurance, naturally he climbed, grabbing onto it (even the parasite did not take off his boots). The question of the thickness of the casing was never again raised.
It's me that the operating conditions are different.

[Mountain shooter]

And she does not require satellites. Normal, strong thing. And I like the chains on it. They don’t have wear, and you can pull ...

[Mixalich]

The weight of the products has always mattered, the cable in plastic is lighter, cheaper, more mobile, maintainable.
We have no connection between the fighters at all. An example in everyday life: a group in paintball, airsoft with communication working 2 and 3 makes the group without communication at a time, the advantage is obvious.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: vyinemeynen

the presence of chains in the design gives out simply a masterpiece of technical thought

Your options?
"Reinforcement of the bearing rack" and "struts from a metal profile" can not even be considered - they will not pass according to the TK (section on mass and dimensional characteristics). You can, of course, try guy wires - but if you only knew what ineffable joy it is to unfold a tangled rusty cable with wires sticking out of it ... especially when you find that one of the thimbles is missing on it.

By the way, here is what happened in the army before this station:

[tchoni]

Performance Note: But without hanging wires could not do?

[Alexey RA]

It is impossible - the customer must get to the bottom of something. If there are no obvious jambs that are easy to eliminate, the customer will get to the bottom of the first block that comes across and will force to redesign everything "from scratch".

[H - ck 61]

Native communication troops do not stand still, but develop)))) This is a big plus. Without communication, the troops are nothing.

[Takashi]

ahem. I was surprised by the technical characteristics. firstly, the frequency range of 5 GHz and power of 100 watts. Very similar to a regular home router. Even a thought flashed, if you attach the Antenna to the router and rewrite its OS, then I think we can get just such a home tropic communication station.

[saag]

Quote: Takashi

power of 100 watts. Very similar to a regular home router.

wow home router, when I worked on the relay so there the output power was 10 W :-)

[Takashi]

yes you are right, the power of the emitter of the authorized router is ~ 100 mW. 100 watts - too much.

[H - ck 61]

P-412 emitter power 200 W

[H - ck 61]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/728/moqu348.jpg

[Tatar 174]

A mobile, portable, quick-detachable option, installed apparently inside an ordinary tent or under an awning to protect it from rain, wind and stealth, who doesn't like it? And the fact that the wires are not thick and the plug type is from a home video player is not a problem to make and solder strong connectors, they will.

[saag]

I wonder why they didn’t follow the path of the satellite transmitter construct - where does it hang behind the dish and that's it?

[sp_krd]

And what salads will twist?
It will be a candy bar, it will be reliable. And in our corner of the corner is the concept of high fitness for repair. What has become more compact is definitely a plus, then that g703 and not ethernet is also a plus. But the food is only 220 vol, this is absolutely a household level. What the problem was to do -12, -48vdc well and for the dandy generation 220 ac

[Zema2307]

the signalman himself, though in space, our quality is lame, but we are glad that we are not standing still!