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Small station "Ladia" will begin to arrive in the army this year

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This year, the Russian military will receive the first small-sized tropospheric communication station “Ladya”, characterized by increased noise immunity, reports TASS with reference to a source in the corporation "Rostec".


Small station "Ladia" will begin to arrive in the army this year


“Ladia” is the first domestic radio relay tropospheric over-the-horizon communication station with small dimensions. In the interests of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, it was tested as part of the complex "Perspective ACS". It was decided to deliver it to the troops as part of this complex, ”said the source.

According to the interlocutor, “the advantages of the Rook consist in receiving and transmitting information in a limited frequency band using only one operating frequency, high noise immunity, low power consumption and low weight, flexibility and simplicity in deployment and operation.”

He added that a decision had recently been made on the serial production of the Rubikon mobile communications complex based on KamAZ. “Its development was carried out by order of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, but the Russian military was also interested in the complex. We expect that in the future it will also be accepted for supply, ”said the source.

The developer of the complexes is MNIRTI (Moscow Research Radio Engineering Institute).
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  1. Hubun
    Hubun 11 March 2015 15: 37
    +5
    if only they really began to act, and not limited to an experimental sample
    1. enot73
      enot73 11 March 2015 15: 44
      33
      Again, the author does not write anything, in fact, about the subject
      smile The troposphere station is intended for:
      • organization of communications in mountainous, inaccessible and sparsely populated areas;
      • operational organization of communications in emergency situations or in areas of natural disasters.
      Specifications:
      • frequency range - 4,4-5,0 GHz;
      • speed of transmitted information (1; 2; 4; 8) x64; 2048 kbit / s;
      • interface - rivers. G.703;
      • antenna diameter - 1,25; 2,5 m;
      • radiation power - 100 W;
      • receiver noise figure - not more than 2 dB;
      • the method of separation of transmission and reception signals - time separation;
      • frequency bandwidth - up to 32 MHz;
      • service channel with A / D and D / A conversion - 1;
      • AC power supply - 220 V;
      • power consumption - no more than 500 W;
      • weight of station equipment (without antenna device) - up to 70 kg.
      Terms of Use:
      • range of working temperatures from -40 ° С to + 50 ° С;
      • relative humidity up to 95% at + 35 ° С.
      Competitive advantages:
      • small weight and dimensions;
      • low power consumption;
      • high mobility and short deployment time;
      • high speed data transfer.
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 11 March 2015 15: 54
        +8
        It turns out 2 Mbps. Not bad. You can drive the video signal, though not the highest quality.
        1. vadsonen
          vadsonen 11 March 2015 16: 21
          +2
          Only if the receiver is installed directly in front of the transmitter. When transmitting "over the horizon", the interference seizes a significant, if not most, part of the bandwidth.
      2. CA CA
        CA CA 11 March 2015 15: 54
        +4
        The tropics are not relay. Compared to the 412th noticeable progress.
        1. Throw
          Throw 11 March 2015 16: 19
          +1
          Generally of course ...
          for:
          • organization of communications in mountainous, inaccessible and sparsely populated areas;
          • operational organization of communications in emergency situations or in areas of natural disasters

          ....
          • AC power supply - 220 V;

          The socket is where to look for ?? fool
          1. Hagalaz
            Hagalaz 11 March 2015 17: 05
            0
            Quote: Lance
            Generally of course ...
            for:
            • organization of communications in mountainous, inaccessible and sparsely populated areas;
            • operational organization of communications in emergency situations or in areas of natural disasters

            ....
            • AC power supply - 220 V;

            The socket is where to look for ?? fool

            Portable generator for what? And the socket is there! lol
          2. enot73
            enot73 11 March 2015 17: 10
            +1
            Quote: Lance
            The socket is where to look for ??
            For me, it would also be better to have an on-board network of 110 Volts, 400 Hertz - there are much less iron and copper in the transformers, but there is one. i.e .
            1. saag
              saag 11 March 2015 17: 15
              +2
              Quote: enot73
              iron and copper in transformers are much less

              Well, to reduce iron and copper, it is enough to make a switching power supply, which is now on any TV and not only
              1. enot73
                enot73 11 March 2015 17: 33
                0
                Quote: saag
                Well, to reduce iron and copper, it is enough to make a switching power supply, which is now on any TV and not only
                It’s also true, a 600 Watt impulse will pull, but the main generator will still have to be made of copper and iron.
      3. UNFAMILIAR
        UNFAMILIAR 11 March 2015 16: 19
        +1
        Quote: enot73
        Again, the author does not write anything, in fact, about the subject

        Not in the know? Photo of the station that will go to the troops? It hurts "experienced" she looks laughing
      4. Gbanderlog
        Gbanderlog 11 March 2015 16: 21
        +9
        Only the wires are again hairy, and the plugs are at home in the video recorder. Any non-armored cable with a thickness of less than a thumb in the army will be frayed, torn, or rendered unusable by any other available means. About the plug, dirt and dust I am silent.
        1. Koshak
          Koshak 11 March 2015 22: 53
          0
          Quote: Gbanderlog
          Only the wires are again hairy, and the plugs are at home in the video recorder. Any non-armored cable with a thickness of less than a thumb in the army will be frayed, torn, or rendered unusable by any other available means. About the plug, dirt and dust I am silent.

          The cables are most likely in a metal braid (under insulation) and the plugs, judging by the picture, are plug connectors with nuts, similar to those used in aircraft radio equipment.
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      6. mervino2007
        mervino2007 11 March 2015 22: 47
        0
        Quote: enot73
        receiver noise figure - not more than 2 dB;

        What signal-to-noise ratio allows you to work at a specified speed?
        What is the communication range in the forest-steppe zone?
        1. vadsonen
          vadsonen 12 March 2015 01: 15
          0
          So there it is written not the signal-to-noise ratio, but the noise coefficient. These are different things.
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    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 11 March 2015 16: 59
      +1
      It is encouraging that the communications began to arrive at the level of the best world models, and that was our Achilles heel, but now much has changed in this regard.
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  2. Trailer
    Trailer 11 March 2015 15: 37
    +2
    The relief around, like in the Donbass. This is so, by the way.
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 11 March 2015 15: 52
      +2
      Quote: Karavan
      The relief around, like in the Donbass.

      Again, someone went to the fortuneteller. +
    2. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 11 March 2015 15: 54
      +1
      What fields with windbreaks only in the Donbass is? belay
      I can name you five heels of areas with exactly the same relief hi
      1. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 11 March 2015 15: 59
        +1
        Quote: Landwarrior
        What fields with windbreaks only in the Donbass is?

        And what in your perception of a place for jokes left?
        1. Mugerets
          Mugerets 11 March 2015 16: 05
          +3
          Dear, then every second man quotes such jokes on the censor, and he truly believes in this. Remember such a poster, Do not talk!
          1. Hagalaz
            Hagalaz 11 March 2015 17: 14
            +1
            Quote: Mugherets
            Dear, then every second man quotes such jokes on the censor, and he truly believes in this. Remember such a poster, Do not talk!

            Yes, it would seem so. Yes, only there, even without us, they used nuclear weapons! What kind of connection is there, they can no longer inspire a plate on a tripod. laughing
        2. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 11 March 2015 20: 09
          -1
          Quote: subbtin.725
          And what in your perception of a place for jokes left?


          I understand that the topic is hot and relevant for everyone, but there is a joke in every joke. In this case, the joke is extremely stupid.
          When the topic about UA is not a word, do not remember. And so much about her lately. hi
    3. Genych
      Genych 11 March 2015 15: 58
      +1
      The relief around, like in the Donbass


      That Siberia, that Alaska - two shores. © smile
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 11 March 2015 16: 14
      +8
      Quote: Karavan
      The relief around, like in the Donbass. This is so, by the way.

      This is the Rostov Mountains on the shore of the Belarusian Sea. laughing
    5. Homo
      Homo 11 March 2015 16: 19
      +3
      Post a photo from my window? On the one hand Donbass, on the other Siberia.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 11 March 2015 16: 30
        +2
        Do you really work in the tallest building in Moscow - Lubyanka Square, house 2? laughing
      2. duchy
        duchy 11 March 2015 16: 44
        +1
        You are by chance not from the ward number 6 ?? hi
        1. Koshak
          Koshak 11 March 2015 22: 58
          +1
          Quote: duche
          You are by chance not from the ward number 6 ?? hi

          You still have to fight, hot Finnish guys!
  3. Abbra
    Abbra 11 March 2015 15: 38
    +7
    Such messages only warm the heart. Communication is the nerves of the army. Way to go, Russia!
  4. Alexxas
    Alexxas 11 March 2015 15: 40
    +4
    there is where to experience the reality wink
  5. jovanni
    jovanni 11 March 2015 15: 49
    +2
    That's right! For nothing, Alexander Stepanovich Popov invented the first radio in the world! Do not shame the genius ancestor ...
  6. Colonel
    Colonel 11 March 2015 15: 50
    0
    "Using one working frequency" What is it like ???
  7. KIL
    KIL 11 March 2015 15: 52
    -9
    Ladya "is the first domestic radio relay tropospheric over-the-horizon communication station with small dimensions. In the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry, it was tested as part of the Perspective ACS complex. It was decided to supply it to the troops as part of this complex," the source said.Let’s guess where she passed the test. bully
    1. sas78
      sas78 11 March 2015 22: 17
      0
      And to the units of which link the Rook arrives (will arrive)?
  8. vyinemeynen
    vyinemeynen 11 March 2015 15: 53
    -16 qualifying.
    the presence of chains in the design gives out simply a masterpiece of technical thought
    1. Homo
      Homo 11 March 2015 16: 21
      +4
      Quote: vyinemeynen
      the presence of chains in the design gives out simply a masterpiece of technical thought

      Yes, the designers screwed up! needed titanium cables with nanocoating and invisibility technology. wassat
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 11 March 2015 17: 32
      +1
      Well, why immediately minus that ?! Technical ignorance is not a sin though.
      In open areas, even with not too strong winds, this antenna has a huge windage! The tripod itself somehow (it is difficult to disassemble from the photo) by the way simply must be firmly attached to the ground, and the stock is already on stretch marks. Cables can get confused during transportation, hard excavations can increase weight and increase oversizedness in any way. So the age-old invention is the best option.
    3. user
      user 12 March 2015 11: 59
      0
      the presence of chains in the design gives out simply a masterpiece of technical thought


      Whatever you say, operational simplicity and reliability have always distinguished Soviet, and, I hope, Russian equipment.

      There was a case.
      During the development of one of the sensors of the missile guidance systems, the question arose, why make a casing for it from stainless steel 5 mm thick. The question could not be resolved in any way, since another top manager pulled up economists and they yell at the top of their voice that this is unnecessary, it is expensive, and then everything is in the same spirit, in one word, "saving first of all, and on the product it is not at all will be reflected, they say, you are all reinsurers. " Here is just another check, well, the inspector, in the rank of general, was given this problem. Everything was decided very simply, he called a conscript and drove him onto a rocket, without any help or insurance, naturally he climbed, grabbing onto it (even the parasite did not take off his boots). The question of the thickness of the casing was never again raised.
      It's me that the operating conditions are different.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 March 2015 16: 16
    +4
    And she does not require satellites. Normal, strong thing. And I like the chains on it. They don’t have wear, and you can pull ...
    1. Mixalich
      Mixalich 11 March 2015 19: 40
      0
      The weight of the products has always mattered, the cable in plastic is lighter, cheaper, more mobile, maintainable.
      We have no connection between the fighters at all. An example in everyday life: a group in paintball, airsoft with communication working 2 and 3 makes the group without communication at a time, the advantage is obvious.
  10. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 11 March 2015 16: 20
    +6
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    the presence of chains in the design gives out simply a masterpiece of technical thought

    Your options?
    "Reinforcement of the bearing rack" and "struts from a metal profile" can not even be considered - they will not pass according to the TK (section on mass and dimensional characteristics). You can, of course, try guy wires - but if you only knew what ineffable joy it is to unfold a tangled rusty cable with wires sticking out of it ... especially when you find that one of the thimbles is missing on it. wassat

    By the way, here is what happened in the army before this station:

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  11. tchoni
    tchoni 11 March 2015 16: 30
    0
    Performance Note: But without hanging wires could not do?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 11 March 2015 16: 48
      +1
      It is impossible - the customer must get to the bottom of something. If there are no obvious jambs that are easy to eliminate, the customer will get to the bottom of the first block that comes across and will force to redesign everything "from scratch". laughing
  12. H - ck 61
    H - ck 61 11 March 2015 16: 40
    +2
    Native communication troops do not stand still, but develop)))) This is a big plus. Without communication, the troops are nothing.
  13. Takashi
    Takashi 11 March 2015 16: 42
    0
    ahem. I was surprised by the technical characteristics. firstly, the frequency range of 5 GHz and power of 100 watts. Very similar to a regular home router. Even a thought flashed, if you attach the Antenna to the router and rewrite its OS, then I think we can get just such a home tropic communication station.
    1. saag
      saag 11 March 2015 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Takashi
      power of 100 watts. Very similar to a regular home router.

      wow home router, when I worked on the relay so there the output power was 10 W :-)
      1. Takashi
        Takashi 11 March 2015 20: 24
        0
        yes you are right, the power of the emitter of the authorized router is ~ 100 mW. 100 watts - too much.
    2. H - ck 61
      H - ck 61 11 March 2015 17: 31
      0
      P-412 emitter power 200 W
      1. H - ck 61
        H - ck 61 11 March 2015 17: 33
        0
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/728/moqu348.jpg
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  14. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 11 March 2015 16: 44
    +2
    A mobile, portable, quick-detachable option, installed apparently inside an ordinary tent or under an awning to protect it from rain, wind and stealth, who doesn't like it? And the fact that the wires are not thick and the plug type is from a home video player is not a problem to make and solder strong connectors, they will.
  15. saag
    saag 11 March 2015 17: 03
    0
    I wonder why they didn’t follow the path of the satellite transmitter construct - where does it hang behind the dish and that's it?
  16. sp_krd
    sp_krd 11 March 2015 21: 43
    0
    And what salads will twist?
    It will be a candy bar, it will be reliable. And in our corner of the corner is the concept of high fitness for repair. What has become more compact is definitely a plus, then that g703 and not ethernet is also a plus. But the food is only 220 vol, this is absolutely a household level. What the problem was to do -12, -48vdc well and for the dandy generation 220 ac
  17. Zema2307
    Zema2307 12 March 2015 00: 20
    0
    the signalman himself, though in space, our quality is lame, but we are glad that we are not standing still!