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The threat of war in Karabakh: the causes of new exacerbations

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In 2015, the “subversive war” in Transcaucasia and the shelling of border villages on the contact line of the Azerbaijani and Karabakh forces, as well as on the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan, took a new level. If earlier the sides used large-caliber small arms to the forward maximum. weapon, since August 2014, the use of mortars and grenade launchers has returned to normal.

Baku game

Not wanting to make concessions, official Baku has for several years been expressing discontent with the fact that the negotiation process is in a deadlock. In his opinion, this situation is in the interests of the Armenian side, the purpose of which is supposedly to freeze the conflict - so that the world community will get along with the existing realities.

Moreover, the Azerbaijani authorities considered that the confrontation between Russia and the West over Ukraine was playing into their hands. On the one hand, for the West, which is trying to weaken its dependence on Russian energy resources, the role of Azerbaijan (as an exporter and transit country) has dramatically increased. On the other hand, Russia, a military ally of Armenia, is bogged down in the Ukrainian crisis, and it does not need a new conflict, to which it will be forced to respond.

Moreover, Baku decided that a favorable international situation contributes not only to more aggressive steps in the conflict zone, but also to the final tightening of the screws inside the republic. And, judging by the rather mild reaction of the West to the arrests of human rights activists, to the ban on working in the republic of Western foundations and searching the Baku bureau of Radio Liberty, these calculations turned out to be correct.

The position of the West with respect to Azerbaijan may change dramatically if the US’s relations with Iran are settled and the sanctions against Tehran are lifted, which has been actively discussed in recent months. In this case, the West may recall the priority of protecting democratic values ​​and human rights, which threatens to exert serious foreign policy pressure on Baku.

Moscow between Yerevan and Baku

In turn, Russia, which leaves no hope to involve Azerbaijan in the process of Eurasian integration, is trying to avoid any harsh statements about Baku. This explains the lack of condemnation by Moscow of the shelling of territories and sabotage against its ally, which resulted in the death of several Armenian soldiers.

In the framework of the OSCE Minsk Group dealing with the settlement of the Karabakh conflict, the Russian co-chair, along with his American and French colleagues, makes general statements to the parties to the conflict. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation is pursuing the same line, making general statements about the need to resolve the conflict exclusively by peaceful means.

Given the position of Moscow, the CSTO is silent. Speaking about the reasons for the lack of reaction to aggression against one of the members of the bloc, the CSTO, in the person of its secretary-general, confines himself to the phrases that “The organization in this matter cannot react by military measures, since this contradicts the main statement of the Collective Security Council, according to which The Karabakh problem is solved exclusively by peaceful means. "

Another argument of the Russian authorities and representatives of the CSTO is that Yerevan has not officially applied to the Organization for support. In turn, the military-political leadership of Armenia explains the lack of appeal to the CSTO by being able to cope with the enemy without the support of the allies.

It should be noted that the CSTO for its participants has long been turned into a peculiar format of bilateral relations with Russia. Representatives of the Armenian authorities in the backroom conversations do not hide that in the event of a resumption of war, they expect support only from the Russian Federation. The President of Armenia has already expressed several times at meetings of the Collective Security Council that, despite the existing agreements and duties, a number of CSTO members support anti-Armenian resolutions within other organizations (the Organization of Islamic Cooperation).

However, not everything goes smoothly in relations with Russia. Yerevan is particularly dissatisfied with the sale of Baku’s arms to Moscow under conditions when the United States, China and the EU countries refused military supplies to the parties to the conflict. In recent years, 80% of weapons Azerbaijan has acquired from Russia (another major supplier of weapons to Azerbaijan is another ally of Armenia in the CSTO - Belarus). At the same time, the Russian Federation helps Armenia maintain the balance of power, selling weapons to the CSTO as a member of the CSTO at below-market prices.

Yerevan and Stepanakert ready to answer

Although the Armenian authorities for a long time tried not to touch on this topic, but last year, for the first time in his interview to foreign media, President Serzh Sargsyan expressed dissatisfaction with this fact. But at the same time, without raising publicly within the framework of the CSTO the issue of an attack on its territory, Yerevan helps Moscow to continue its game and not to designate a clear position on the issue of aggression against its ally.

The process of rapprochement between Russia and Turkey also causes concern of the Armenian authorities and society. Although Moscow and Ankara publicly talk about cooperation only in the energy sphere, in which the planned gas pipeline project will strengthen their positions in the dialogue with the EU, in Yerevan they fear that the Karabakh conflict may also become one of the issues of cooperation. In Armenian society, there are still strong memories of how the Bolsheviks, led by Lenin, sacrificed the interests of the Armenian people for the sake of an alliance with Kemalist Turkey. By the way, this did not bring any dividends to the Bolshevik Russia: winning the war with Greece with the help of the weapons and money provided by the Bolsheviks (and at the same time gaining the lands of Western Armenia), Atatürk went over to the West, and Turkey became an anti-Soviet outpost in the region.

As for the aggravation of the situation in the conflict zone, the events on the front line in July-August of last year showed that Yerevan and Stepanakert are ready for tough retaliatory actions. It is also noteworthy that in January 2015 for the first time the Armenian side declared that in response to the “sabotage war” it reserves the right to take preventive measures, since the international community is unable to influence the policy of Baku.

The inability of the mediators from the OSCE Minsk Group to implement at the moment the consolidated policy and the readiness of Armenia and the NKR to respond rigidly to the attempts of Azerbaijan to “play muscles” threaten to further increase tensions on the front lines. And although Baku hardly plans to resume the war now (the balance of forces is far from desired), but the flywheel of violence spun by it is gaining momentum, and the events on the front lines may well get out of the control of the central authorities.

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Therefore, a lot of things in the further development of events will depend on whether Russia and the West can, against the background of their confrontation in Ukraine, find compromises around other conflicts in the post-Soviet space, in particular the Karabakh conflict. In this regard, it should be emphasized that the resumption of war is not in their interests, which can serve as a basis for cooperation in this matter.

For Russia, maintaining the status quo is beneficial, which gives it the opportunity to influence both Armenia and Azerbaijan’s policies. If the war resumes, Moscow will have to make a painful choice, the result of which is likely to be the support of its only ally in the region, Armenia, and the final loss of Azerbaijan.

In turn, the West, expressing dissatisfaction with the preservation of the status quo, which plays into the hands of Moscow, fears that the war could jeopardize multibillion-dollar investments in Azerbaijan and the large energy projects connected with it. And do not underestimate the influence of the Armenian communities in the United States and France, which to a certain extent balances the factor of the Western energy interests in Azerbaijan.
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 March 2015 18: 39
    +1
    We won’t abandon Armenia for any .... Too many people bind us (although they are trying to disgrace us .. some forces) I remember earlier this topic was very popular here on the site ..))))
    1. virm
      virm 11 March 2015 20: 01
      0
      Are you from Azerbaijan?
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Seal
      Seal 11 March 2015 20: 06
      +3
      You personally do not quit? Well, the flag in your hands :)))))))
  2. vsoltan
    vsoltan 11 March 2015 18: 41
    +2
    For Russia, maintaining the status quo is beneficial, which gives it the opportunity to influence both Armenia and Azerbaijan’s policies. If the war resumes, Moscow will have to make a painful choice, the result of which is likely to be the support of its only ally in the region, Armenia, and the final loss of Azerbaijan.

    Ehhhh. ... completely out of hand. ... in the head and both. ... and the Russian army in Transcaucasia. ..may not have to enter, just shout. ... dry out. ...
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 11 March 2015 19: 00
      +3
      Quote: vsoltan
      in the head and both.

      This is the best option, for everyone! Otherwise, they will be caught in a stranglehold .. you won’t pull it away then .. (without offense, but I don’t see any other way) the West is constantly striking with matches .. (especially in recent years) It's time to forget the insults for a while (then sorted out calmly and without blood)
      1. makarick
        makarick 11 March 2015 20: 02
        +5
        On the head, everyone ... and again the Russians will become guilty of everything. I talked with both of them, they hate each other (for the most part) fiercely, and then both will have a common enemy. Remember the recent murder of an Armenian family by a soldier ... immediately the crowd flooded (although at that time no one knew for sure whether it was guilty). This suggests that all the same they only tolerate Russians. Of course he is a beast, and if he really killed, then the ultimate measure is unambiguous.
  3. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 11 March 2015 18: 44
    +6
    It’s strange, but why do the Armenian communities, Ukrainian and other diasporas have such "weight", and because of the hillock, they really influence politics. And the opinion of the people, who really live on their land, is no longer "worth"?
  4. Linkor9s21
    Linkor9s21 11 March 2015 18: 45
    +2
    Armenia should understand that if we remove our bases, Azerbaijan will gobble them alive.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 11 March 2015 18: 55
      -4
      Quote: Linkor9s21
      Armenia should understand that if we remove our bases, Azerbaijan will gobble them alive.

      At the beginning of the conflict, units of the USSR Armed Forces fought on the side of Azerbaijan, and could not break the Armenians. We have many immigrants from Azerbaijan, and so, NOBODY WANTS TO Fight. Feeding the army with modern weapons is not an automatic victory (NATO in Avgan, and indeed the United States)
      1. Linkor9s21
        Linkor9s21 11 March 2015 19: 04
        +5
        My friend, let's face it, Azerbaijan hates Armenia, the army of Azerbaijan is many times stronger than the Armenian, I don’t take sides or just think objectively.
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 11 March 2015 19: 39
          0
          Quote: Linkor9s21
          My friend, let's face it

          Agree hi
          But in my opinion I have already answered that
          Azerbaijan’s army is many times stronger than the Armenian
          .
          Quote: Linkor9s21
          I don’t take sides

          I also drinks
          1. Linkor9s21
            Linkor9s21 11 March 2015 21: 22
            +2
            Well, I'm glad that we understood each other drinks
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 11 March 2015 23: 04
          +1
          Azerbaijan will have to step on the positions prepared by the Armenians in the NKR, and this great equalizes the chances. Plus, Azerbaijan has many vulnerable infrastructure goals - oil fields, enterprises, etc. Again, Nakhchivan can be occupied by Armenia and exchanged for the status of Karabakh. But at the same time, Azerbaijan has money and weapons, and the infrastructure facilities of Armenia may be under the blow of tornadoes and other RSOs. Azerbaijan has been seriously preparing for 20 years for war and the war will throw both countries into poverty and ruin. Well, the question is whether Russia and Turkey will intervene or not. Russia cannot allow the bombing of a member of the CSTO, but we also need Azerbaijan as a friend. And quarreling with Turkey is not profitable now, given the warming of relations and the gas hub. In general, Azerbaijan would join the CSTO and then the Russian Federation would not be obliged to get into the dismantling of two members of the CSTO and Turkey would also have no reason to intervene. But again, for two small countries, this war can be a collapse of the economy and production and lead to casualties and poverty. Especially dangerous are the capricious moods of Azerbaijanis on the war, who believe that they will tear the Armenians with one left. The Georgian army in the 90s was stronger than the Abkhazian, but the result was a defeat for Georgia. The Azerbaijani army, having superiority over the Armenian one, has already lost to it once and not the fact that it will turn out to take revenge.
          And the train left and there were almost no Azerbaijanis left in NKR, there are almost only Armenians there, and the mass eviction of Armenians from NKR to Azerbaijan is unlikely to get away with, given the membership of Armenia in the CST and the influential diasporas of Armenians in France and the United States.
          1. Seal
            Seal 11 March 2015 23: 46
            0
            Well, the question is whether Russia and Turkey will intervene or not.

            If everything is limited to only one Nagorno-Karabakh, then neither Turkey nor we will have any grounds for intervention. Since Nagorno-Karabakh de jure is Azerbaijan. These are the resolutions and the UN Assemblies and the UN Security Council, recognized by both parties (Azerbaijan and Armenia). Actually, therefore, Armenia itself still has not decided to recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh.
            Here is Turkey, when it landed troops in Cyprus and created the state of Northern Cyprus - recognized the independence of Northern Cyprus. The Armenians, although they constantly call the Turks cowards, do not dare to recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh.
            This means that the CSTO will not intervene, as it has no right. There is a vote there.
            Yes, perhaps a member of the CSTO Armenia will want to help Nagorno-Karabakh, but if Armenia takes the initiative, it will be Armenia’s own problems. The CSTO Charter provides for assistance to a CSTO member country if the CSTO member country has been subjected to aggression by third countries. And if a member country of the CSTO itself has come up on its own initiative, then the CSTO has nothing to do with it legally.
            However, you are right that Azerbaijan needs to abandon its ambitions and also ask the CSTO. Just in case.

            The Georgian army in the 90s was stronger than the Abkhaz, but the result was the defeat of Georgia

            In Georgia in the 90s there was no army as such at all. There were various groups of "authorities" - the "Mkhedrioni" detachments of Jaba Ioseliani, the "National Guard" detachments of Tengiz Kitovani, the Zviadist detachments of Loti Kobalia and others, and so on and so forth. As I was told by the Abkhaz, the Georgians who entered Abkhazia were some incredible rabble, moreover, in sandals, flip flops, or even barefoot. First of all, the Georgians plundered shoe stores in Abkhazia :)))))
          2. xasharat
            xasharat 12 March 2015 01: 08
            +3
            Quote: g1v2
            Azerbaijan will have to step on positions prepared by Armenians in NKR

            Dear, go to YouTube and see where our SELF soldiers are doing)))) These protective positions prepared by the Armenians are not an obstacle for our soldiers, I repeat, they rummage all over Karabakh, the video is full.

            Quote: g1v2
            Plus, Azerbaijan has many vulnerable infrastructure goals - oil fields

            Every Azerbaijanian dreams that Armenians shy away from the oil pipe))))) Believe it? Despite the fact that Azerbaijan has the most POWERFUL air defense of the REGION, they will even allow you to grumble through the pipe with a smile and then we will watch an online show what oil workers from Europe can do you know?)))) Armenia will not see raspberries then. Oh, they will be able to answer for the most part)

            Quote: g1v2
            enterprises and so on.

            Through the air, they will not reach the enterprises, and on land all the more)))

            Quote: g1v2
            and the infrastructure facilities of Armenia may be hit by tornadoes and other RSOs

            Of course, after one shot in the direction of Azerbaijan (through the pipe), I assure you that from the USA to Britain they themselves will ask to shy away from Armenia and, moreover, they will bury Armenia with sanctions. The significance of this pipe I think you know)

            Quote: g1v2
            Russia cannot bomb a member of the CST

            FROM WHICH KARABAKH, A CSTO MEMBER?)))

            Quote: g1v2
            The Azerbaijani army, having superiority over the Armenian one, has already lost to it once and not the fact that it will turn out to take revenge.

            for 1 month the maximum will be resolved and Karabakh and Irevan taken together if Russia is on the sidelines. 1 month. You see, do not read the latest news about what is happening in Karabakh.

            Quote: g1v2
            The Georgian army in the 90s was stronger than the Abkhazian, but the result was a defeat for Georgia.

            Abkhazia and Ossetia taken together would not have been able to cope with Georgia, without Russia like Armenia with us.

            Quote: g1v2
            And the train left and almost no Azerbaijanis left in NKR

            There will soon be no Armenians either) including in Armenia itself.



            Quote: g1v2
            given the membership of Armenia in the CST

            Listen to you all the time CSTO)))))))) What other CSTO?)))) Kazakhs chtoli will fight for the Armenians or Kyrgyzstan or the Old Man will allow?)))))) Speak everything in your own names .... While membership Armenia in the orbit of Russia ..... write not on paper but in reality))

            Quote: g1v2
            influential diasporas of Armenians in France and the USA

            )))))) hahaha))) Every US president said MOMA KLIYANUS I ACKNOWLEDGE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE)) Next, the elections begin) Next, instead of genocide, they say METS EGERN) God grant that they always had such support from the USA)) by the way how and from Russia)) I personally will not even wish such an honor to the sworn enemy that the Armenians.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 12 March 2015 16: 20
              0
              Well, this koment is a clear confirmation of the hatred-inspiring moods of some Azerbaijanis. By the way, if everything is so gorgeous in your homeland, then why do you have a Swedish flag? lol Of course you have good air defense - we have tried with Israel, but it does not provide guaranteed protection for the entire territory, and especially Nakhichevan, from slopes and points. As for the fact that the oil workers from Europe will tear your throat for you, this is all nonsense, the maximum that they will do this is to sue the Armenians. And they’ll obviously not get into where they shoot, especially with such oil prices. Yes, and the shares of companies developing in the field of DB quickly depreciate and it is possible that the Europeans simply throw off these assets. Well, what else was there? And about the diasporas - well, it’s one thing to set up an influential country like Turkey and another small but proud country on the Caspian coast, the influence of the Armenian diaspora is quite enough for this. NKR is certainly not a member of the CSTO, but Armenia is quite. And I very much doubt that the conflict will be limited to the NKR. Whose turntable you shot down - is it NKR? No, Armenia, which means the Armenian sun will be involved even if unofficially. Moreover, as I noticed, it seems that Armenia made the main investments not in its own, but in the whole of NKR, at least the NKR has more tanks and armor than Armenia . The territory of Armenia itself is protected by membership in the CSTO and if it does not officially declare war on Azerbaijan, it will be able to use its forces unofficially without fear of a blow to its territory, that is, the situation is advantageous - the war will be fought on enemy territory without fear for its own.
              1. xasharat
                xasharat 13 March 2015 00: 27
                -1
                Quote: g1v2
                then why do you have a swedish flag?

                Nonsense))) It turns out that if the Russian lives in Germany, then you will identify claims from this?))))

                Quote: g1v2
                but guaranteed protection of the whole territory and especially Nakhichevan from scad

                Dear, if 1 bullet flies towards Nakhchivan, in half an hour the Turkish flag will be in the center of Yerevan and the base in Gyumri is not an obstacle for this, you see, you don’t know about the contracts)))) Plus don’t scare us with Skades) We found something to scare)) )))))))))))))))))

                Quote: g1v2
                As for the fact that the oil workers from Europe will tear your throat for you, this is all nonsense, the maximum that they will do this is to sue the Armenians.

                You are mistaken again)))) They have already been told that they are waiting if they shy away through the pipe and if we don’t shy away, we will shy and throw them at them)))) Favorite scenario of world powers, by the way, of Russia too)))) Remember how the FSB blew up Russia ?))))))))))))))))) and we shy away through the pipe))))

                Quote: g1v2
                Europe will tear your throat for you

                For oil, they tear their throats and put cancer.


                Quote: g1v2
                the influence of the Armenian diaspora is quite enough for this.

                I'm under the table))))

                Quote: g1v2
                Armenia’s CSTO Membership Protects Territory of Armenia itself

                The Collective Security Treaty Organization put on Armenia like Russia))) And the Collective Security Treaty Organization doesn’t scare us, the Turks will not go to the Turk for the sake of the Armenian, and especially Batya))))

                you are dreaming)))
      2. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 11 March 2015 22: 04
        0
        Soon you will be cured ...
      3. xasharat
        xasharat 12 March 2015 00: 55
        +2
        Quote: Horst78
        At the beginning of the conflict, units of the USSR Armed Forces fought on the side of Azerbaijan

        1. Azerbaijan was not ready for war.
        2. In the beginning, Hitler didn’t even get to Moscow and Genghis Khan kept Russia under the yoke and? Now if you are not up to date, this is the case. The Azerbaijani army and helicopters shoot down and destroy the occupying sabotage groups on a grand scale.

        Quote: Horst78
        We have many immigrants from Azerbaijan, and so, NOBODY WANTS TO Fight.

        For Azerbaijan, there is someone to fight, unlike Armenia. In Armenia, soon there will be no people left due to migration.
      4. Drmadfisher
        Drmadfisher 12 March 2015 02: 00
        +1
        who told you such nonsense? fool my neighbor was protecting the Armenian villages from Azeris
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 12 March 2015 02: 34
          0
          Quote: DrMadfisher
          my neighbor was protecting the Armenian villages from Azeris

          And my colleague served in a unit that was formed so that at any moment you could jump on a plane and, after landing, cool down hot Azeris. Guys from Azerbaijan, you are completely off the hook, referring here to the blessing of you from Europe and the United States ... This same NK (taken with a fight) can really bring you more grief than joy, fight you, well, well.
          1. xasharat
            xasharat 12 March 2015 03: 07
            +1
            Quote: Alexej
            Guys from Azerbaijan, you are completely off the coils

            Well, if the love of the motherland is already called that, then yes, they got off the coils.

            Quote: Alexej
            refer here to the blessing of you to Europe and the United States ...

            Blessing? Yes, we do not need him. We already do our business and also with your hands)

            Quote: Alexej
            This very NK (taken with a fight) can really bring you more grief than joy, to hunt you, well, well.

            May God give you in the same double that you wish us) I would like to look at your face when they write this to you, threatening you with your own land.
            1. Alexei
              Alexei 12 March 2015 13: 33
              -1
              Quote: xasharat
              May God give you in the same double that you wish us) I would like to look at your face when they write this to you, threatening you with your own land.

              Do you know what you are writing here? Twins? Thank you, otherwise we Russians do this a lot, after the collapse of the USSR. And after the "return" of NC, where will you direct your ambitions? To push the Armenians further?
              1. xasharat
                xasharat 12 March 2015 14: 15
                +1
                Quote: Alexej
                Do you know what to write here? In twins?

                And what should I write about your threats? I am writing to you culturally, from the bottom of my heart I wish you what you wish for us. If you wish us good, then why be surprised? And if it’s bad, then I double wish you. The law of the boomerang has not yet been repealed. GLORY TO GOD.

                Quote: Alexej
                and then with us Russians this happens in tenfold, after the collapse of the USSR.

                Did I fail the USSR? They themselves failed.

                Quote: Alexej
                And after the "return" of NK, where will you direct your ambitions? To push the Armenians further?

                Tabriz and Irevan. Not those not others, not even a gram, deserve our land. Instead of gratitude, what did we get? 2 genocides.

                DO NOT DESERVE !!!!
  5. akmalinin
    akmalinin 11 March 2015 18: 45
    -3
    The news of the Russian peacekeepers.
    1. Seal
      Seal 11 March 2015 20: 08
      +1
      And send your children there. And do not dispose of other people's lives !!!
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 12 March 2015 13: 40
        -1
        Quote: Seal
        And send your children there. And do not dispose of other people's lives !!!

        I’ll take it and send it! And I’ll go if they let me go. And you, Honorable Sergey Petrovich, dry your pants, and keep your offspring closer to your guardian. And in the evenings, sitting at a table in a cozy kitchen, under the vodka, loudly declare, banging your chest with your fist that you are Russian - a descendant of the heroic people ...
        1. xasharat
          xasharat 12 March 2015 14: 17
          +1
          Quote: Alexej
          I’ll take it and send it! And I’ll go if they let me go.

          That is, you will go and send your children to protect the interests of child murderers and terrorists?))))
          Well, well
        2. Seal
          Seal 13 March 2015 00: 11
          +1
          The flag is in your hands. You see, dear, firstly I do not drink vodka. A long time ago.
          Secondly, I have behind me both the sunny Gayzhunay and the 76th Chernihiv.
          And if someone from the landing and goes to Armenia - it is only with the aim of revenge.
          To avenge our brothers in arms vilely shot by the Armenians in 1992: for the paratroopers of lieutenant Alexander Shapovalov, sergeants Yevgeny Poddubnyak, Oleg Yudintsev, privates Mikhail Karpov, Nikolai Maslennikov.

          But the landing in Armenia is not allowed. And not only to Armenia - they are diligently bred even at joint exercises of the CSTO countries. If our tankers travel with Armenian tankers, then they always drop troops away from the Armenians. And for partners to work out joint actions, Belarusian or Kazakh paratroopers are given to ours. And never - Armenian, if they are there at all.
          Our dead guys are still not avenged.
  6. SAXA.SHURA
    SAXA.SHURA 11 March 2015 18: 46
    0
    Aliyev also wants to start a war in his own country, I probably don’t want people to live peacefully and happily, that’s why one uncontrollable person manages the lives of millions, well, if you really want blood, go fuck your head on the rail and look at your blood, and that you make people pour it because of your ambitions.
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 11 March 2015 22: 08
      +1
      He says it’s not necessary for us .... not only Aliyev wants revenge ...
    2. xasharat
      xasharat 12 March 2015 01: 10
      +3
      Quote: SAXA.SHURA
      Aliyev also wants to foment war

      mdaaa) honestly, are you studying at school?) 99% OF THE POPULATION OF AZERBAIJAN WANTS A WAR
      1. Revenge for the genocide in Khojaly
      2. So ottabuyat that even in bold dreams did not see OTHER EARTH OWN.
      3. For a country that claims to be the land of ALL of its neighbors, can not be peaceful.
      1. SAXA.SHURA
        SAXA.SHURA 12 March 2015 21: 38
        -1
        Have you ever seen a brave Azik, brought him one on one, he squeals like a dog, but doesn’t want to fight, and I know that myself. That's it.
        1. xasharat
          xasharat 13 March 2015 00: 29
          +1
          Quote: SAXA.SHURA
          Have you ever seen a brave Azik, brought him one on one, he squeals like a dog, but doesn’t want to fight, and I know that myself. That's it.


          ))))))))))))))))))))))))) OH I can not)))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))
          You see not asika seen)
  7. vex
    vex 11 March 2015 19: 06
    0
    Just as Russia would like the allies to decide who they are, so the allies want more certainty from a friendly country. I hope that, God forbid, Aliyev decides to start a war, our authorities will not block the flow of weapons and volunteers to Armenia. And they will not prevent the rest of Karabakh from returning to the Armenians - up to the Kura.
    1. Seal
      Seal 11 March 2015 20: 14
      +2
      Just as Russia would like the allies to decide who they are, so the allies want more certainty from a friendly country.

      Excuse me, who are the allies?
      Only evidence please.
      If Azerbaijan is an ally, then why are there examples of alliance.
      If Armenia is an ally, then why are there examples of alliance.

      A big request - do not confuse the alliance with parasite :)))
      Alliance is when one side helps the other. That one, the other side - helps the first.
      1. xasharat
        xasharat 12 March 2015 01: 12
        +1
        Quote: Seal
        Seal


        I don’t know who you are, but seeing your flag, I understand that you are a Russian.
        Thank you so much human for the fact that you are one of not many users who describe so clearly and correctly.
        Because of these guys, it’s nice to go to these sites, but I have a feeling that there is one child here.
  8. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 March 2015 19: 44
    +2
    Let's wait for the members of the forum from Armenia and Azerbaijan ... (although now after Ukraine they have become rare guests here on the site) Everything was too long and bloody there and it is not worth waving checkers yet .. "Appalona" remembered (died ... the moderator -Azerbaijani) He knew how to "sort out" these topics. Allah, I hope, accepted him with honor and is now watching us .. As I used to say here "I got used to this site .." He was a smart and calm man .. hi I remember "I'll just pull a sword out of the scabbard here .. And he calm me down" Chinese warning to you the last .. ")))) Taught me ...! Now I write and I always remember him ..! Okay enough .. not quite in the admin topic I think they will forgive me for this short and sad monologue .. hi
    1. xasharat
      xasharat 12 March 2015 01: 13
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Let's wait for the forum users from Armenia and Azerbaijan ... (although they are now after Ukraine rare guests here on the site)


      I'm always here)
  9. Seal
    Seal 11 March 2015 20: 18
    +5
    Yes, let them fight at last. Tired of reading about these Transcaucasian showdowns.
    Well, or would they come face to face - Sargsyan against Aliyev. Whoever wins - that and Karabakh :)))))))))))))))
    1. xasharat
      xasharat 12 March 2015 01: 13
      0
      Quote: Seal
      Well, or would they come face to face - Sargsyan against Aliyev. Whoever wins - that and Karabakh :)))))))))))))))


      I applaud while standing
      hi
  10. Leader
    Leader 11 March 2015 20: 29
    +3
    Why do we even owe someone? Should help, stand on their side, somehow emphasize their sympathies ...?
    Why don't Armenia and Azerbaijan finally fight? Would you like to try the krovushki? - Yes please!
    Only you yourself sort it out there. Whoever wins, he will receive Karabakh (or what do you lack there for complete happiness?).
    Moreover, the most ridiculous thing is that all the nerds that directly sit in the trenches and die will remain so nosed and no matter which side wins.
    I’m looking at Hohland and I understand that there will be no winners ... Except for the oligarchs.

    If you want protection from Russia, join the Russian Empire, you will be ours and then your problems will be ours too. Then we’ll ruin.
    Independent and independent? - Well, sort it out yourself.
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 11 March 2015 22: 14
      +2
      This is what we want)) stand aside for 40 days ... and the Armenians and I will “solve lovingly.” But Russia can be calm, where the outpost will not get away from you ...
      1. xasharat
        xasharat 12 March 2015 01: 16
        +1
        Quote: Otshelnik
        no where the outpost will not get away from you ...


        Vuahahahaha and he really is not going anywhere. Azerbaijanis have one proverb, Sychmayan Köl Goymaiblar - literal translation - They put it on every bush. That is, this is the only country in the world that has land claims against everyone with its neighbors and they are stained to the logs with the blood of all their neighbors. This is also a fact.
    2. xasharat
      xasharat 12 March 2015 01: 20
      0
      Quote: Leader
      Why don't Armenia and Azerbaijan finally fight?


      DYK, as we are asking this from the authorities, our whole request is 1 month to close our eyes in the direction of Karabakh, OUR LAND, documented and historical proven.

      It is also written in the article, you have to make a choice after that. The Armenians will not forgive you if you do not help them, this is unequivocal and then NATO will not be Georgia first, but Armenia first. Given where the main gang of their lobby.

      Quote: Leader
      Whoever wins will get Karabakh

      So this is nonsense. If my country is the same as, say, the USA, does the whole world have to be taken?
      And where did the HISTORICAL FACTS go? HUMAN METHODS? And on the other hand, scolding ISIS))))
      WHAT ARE WE BETTER?

      Quote: Leader
      Want protection from Russia - join the Russian Empire

      It’s better for us to remain good neighbors, and to defend ourselves even if we lose, we can bite painfully, definitely! The army is already much more qualified.
  11. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 March 2015 20: 35
    +2
    Armenia at the tank biathlon, showed an excellent result! The guys are training to see how strong ... (especially in shooting)
    1. xasharat
      xasharat 12 March 2015 01: 23
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Armenia at the tank biathlon

      Believe me, even if their old tanks even grow wings, Azerbaijan’s ATGMs have fallen. Let them train, in Karabakh you won’t especially fly a tank. These are mountains, rocks, forests, and as it turned out the other day, they definitely won’t fly in Karabakh.
      1. user
        user 12 March 2015 12: 32
        -1
        Believe me, let their wings grow even in their old tanks


        Well honestly I didn’t want to comment on anything, well, the donkey roar of this idiot can do the impossible. War is not warcraft for you, it doesn’t matter with whom, I understand that sitting on the couch while drinking beer can show your patriotism and frighten everyone, maybe someone will get scared. In fact, there is only one question, did you hold the machine at least once in your hands, did you march with it? Your readiness right now to start fighting causes great doubts about this, it is only when a parasailing truck stands in front of the girls (remember in the Soviet army the conscripts carried pigs from the canteen to the pigs) after the demobilization, the girls talk about the difficulties of the service, they make you smile, then your reaction causes exactly the same smile .
        1. xasharat
          xasharat 12 March 2015 14: 22
          +2
          Quote: user
          I understand that sitting on the couch while drinking beer you can show your patriotism and intimidate everyone

          Listen, the hatchet is not so square and not the place where you need to show your patriotism. I speak with facts and not with fables.

          Quote: user
          In fact, there is only one question, did you hold the machine at least once in your hands, did you march with it?

          :)))) KNOW COMMENTS - I'm sorry, I don’t tell about myself, and all the more I’m not going to prove anything to anyone.

          and I ask for YOU I didn’t pass pigs with you and did not drink vodka at the same table.

          Quote: user
          Your readiness to start fighting right now causes great doubts about this.

          Fight? )))) I am personally against the war at the moment. I arms and legs AGAINST a full-fledged war the coming year.

          In general, you do not have adequate comments. Good luck. I'm talking about Ivan and you are talking about a spoiler.
  12. kamis51
    kamis51 11 March 2015 22: 15
    0
    And in the USSR there was no religious strife between Orthodoxy and Islam ...
    1. Seal
      Seal 12 March 2015 00: 04
      +1
      Yes, because everyone prayed for .... as the poet said

      "Hanging over the meeting
      Separated from the body
      How healthy
      Lenin's head ".

      While in the USSR all religions were equidistant, well, or, so to speak, there was a single Soviet religion - Communism, there was a single country. For in the religious (communist) plan, everyone was equal - both Russians, and Uzbeks and Kyrgyz and Kalmyks, and so on. That is, an Uzbek communist could point out to a Russian communist or a Georgian communist an understanding of Marxism-Leninism that is not entirely true to one or another. But when Gorbachev allowed the celebration of the 1000th anniversary of the baptism of Russia and declared himself "Orthodox" - this is where the foundations shook. Secretaries of national republics and regional committees realized that they can, without fear of losing a membership card, declare their religious affiliation. And they began to announce. A single religion (communism), which was the connecting thread of the entire USSR and on the basis of which the Constitution of the CPSU said that a new community was created, the "Soviet people", had crumbled. And behind it, alas, a new community scattered - the “Soviet people”.
  13. zinger
    zinger 11 March 2015 23: 51
    0
    the powers that be will surely make a hand to aggravate the conflict in NGOs.
  14. Yeraz
    Yeraz 12 March 2015 10: 27
    +3
    Again, a pro-Armenian article with an Armenian author. Will they at least sometimes post opinions of the opposite side ?? I certainly understand Azerbaijani users present their opinions with dignity, but still ...
    1. Oquz
      Oquz 12 March 2015 13: 47
      +3
      Again pro-Armenian article with an Armenian author !!! I wrote about it 100 times)))))) but the admin removes my comments))))
      1. ilkin33
        ilkin33 13 March 2015 06: 18
        0
        Again, of course, why do we sit back? I have excellent materials on how to destroy Armenian soldiers video photo materials. Plus I can prove how the Ministry of Defense of Armenia puts itself in a stupid situation by refuting itself, and at the same time I rely only on Armenian sites. I I am not writing an article, But if one of you writes I can provide an idea with a captured saboteur and the show around him. Based on nevs.am