Military Review

Russian large-caliber sniper rifles

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Large-caliber sniper rifles are a special type of sniper rifles of caliber from 9 mm to 20 mm inclusive. As a rule, such samples are significantly superior to ordinary sniper rifles in effective firing range, bullet energy, dimensions, mass and recoil, which affects the use of them. Currently, Russia has created a sufficient number of interesting solutions in this area, which are represented by both state and private producers of small weapons.


The main scope of large-caliber sniper rifles is disabling unarmored and lightly armored vehicles of the enemy, including low-flying or standing on the ground helicopters and airplanes; protected firing points (firing at embrasures and pillbox observation devices); controls, communications and intelligence (satellite communications antennas, radars, etc.); destruction of unexploded bombs and mines. Also, such rifles are quite effective means of conducting anti-sniper competition.

Modern история The development of large-caliber sniper rifles began with the advent of the M500 sniper rifle in the United States, which was created in 1981 by RAP. It was the M-500 rifle that was the first to be put into service by the American army and designed to solve the problems of fighting enemy lightly armored vehicles, fortifications, and other rather difficult tasks. At the same time, real success to the new weapon came after the appearance of the M82 rifle, developed by gun designer Ronnie Barrett. The rifle he created for the NATO cartridge 12,7x99 mm effectively solved all the sniper tasks at a firing range above 1500 meters. In the army, this rifle was nicknamed "Light Fifty" ("Light Fifty"). It was after the appearance of the M82 rifle in the United States that a real boom began on similar weapons. Nowadays, more than fifty companies have created overseas solutions for 12,7x99 mm cartridge, as well as special ammunition .308, .338 Lapua Magnum, and later the most interesting and promising ammunition 408 Cheyenne Tactical, or CheyTac.



Russia has not stayed away from the development of systems of such weapons. At the same time, Russian large-caliber sniper rifles are quite competitive product. To create such rifles, both in our country and in the USA, cartridges were used that were borrowed from large-caliber machine guns: 12,7х99 mm (USA and NATO) and 12,7x108 mm (Russia). This solution is rational and has a rather impressive basis: the power of such a cartridge would be enough to penetrate any regular army means of protection and reservations throughout the entire flight section of the bullet. But such rifles and inherent flaws. Due to the high energy and large mass, the potential of large-caliber sniper rifles cannot be realized within the framework of conducting maneuver combat. They can be used from specially equipped sniper positions or for anti-sniper activities as part of special-purpose groups.

OSV-96 "Burglar"

Large-caliber sniper rifles today are a special pride of Russian gunsmiths. One of the brightest representatives of weapons of this class is the OCB-96 rifle with the sonorous nickname "Burglar", which was nicknamed for its unique characteristics. It is considered the first Russian model of a large-caliber sniper rifle, which is able to hit not only manpower, but also various enemy equipment at great distances. The rifle was created in Tula at the Instrument Engineering Design Bureau (KBP) in the middle of the 1990-s (designer Arkady G. Shipunov). OSV-96 "The Burglar" was put into service in March 2000.

The OCB-96 rifle is designed to hit unarmored and lightly armored targets at distances up to 1800 meters, as well as enemy personnel behind cover and in personal protective equipment at a distance of up to 1000 meters. When firing sniper cartridges in 4-5 series of shots at a distance of 100 meters, the dispersion width does not exceed 50 mm. One of the main disadvantages of a rifle is a very loud sound when fired. Because of this, it is recommended to fire with OSB-96 large-caliber sniper rifle while in the headphones.



OSV-96 is a self-loading sniper large-caliber rifle, which works on the principle of using powder gases. The issue of large dimensions, which is typical for weapons of this class, was solved by the design features. In the stowed position, the rifle can be folded: the barrel, together with the vapor system, leans back and to the right and presses against the receiver, while the receiver and the breech section of the barrel are closed from possible clogging with a case. In the folded position, the "Burglar" does not go beyond the dimensions of a conventional SVD rifle, which allows the shooter to easily fit in vehicles and armored vehicles. The transfer of the rifle from the folded position to the combat position and back is carried out in a matter of seconds.

Of the features of the weapon, self-loading work and an effective choke are distinguished, which reduces the sniper's fatigue and allows him to fire with a high rate of fire. And bipods adjustable in height allow you to take the most convenient position for shooting. Also, the rifle has all-day use due to the use of different types of sights, including night vision. And a long range of effective firing, which allows the sniper to be out of range of accurate fire from small-caliber conventional weapons. At the same time 12,7-mm sniper bullet has three times less demolition than the bullet caliber 7,62 mm.

TTX OCB-96 "Burglar":

Type of cartridge: 12,7x108 mm (sniper SPT-12,7) or 12,7x108 mm cartridges from heavy machine guns.
Target firing range - to 1800 m.
Weight without magazine and optical sight - 12,9 kg.
Dimensions: in a combat position - 1746х431х425 mm, in the stowed position - 1154х132х190 mm.
Store capacity - 5 cartridges.
Shooting mode - single.

VKS / VSSK "Exhaust"

For cases that require a special approach from the shooters, a rather effective system was found in the arsenal of Russian gunsmiths - VKS / VSSK Vykhlop. Of course, the effective range of firing from such a rifle is lower than that of its fellows. Aim range - 600 meters. But the SC-130 ammunition of caliber 12,7х55 mm weighing 76 grams used in a rifle allows you to hit almost any target almost silently, as far as the caliber of this ammunition allows. At the same time, another mass advantage of the sniper rifle was its mass, which is almost 3 times smaller than the mass of its louder counterparts in caliber.



This sniper rifle was created by designer Vladimir Zlobin in the period from 1999 to 2004. The rifle was created under a special order, which came from the Center for Special Purpose FSB of Russia. This sniper rifle is being manufactured at the Central Design Bureau of Sports and Hunting Weapons (TsKIB SOO) in the city of Tula. The SC-130 cartridges used in this rifle allow you to break through the 15-mm steel plate at a distance of 200 meters or body armor 5 protection class at a distance of 100 meters.

The main task that the Exhaust sniper rifle must solve is the defeat of protected targets, including those using 4-6 class individual armor protection (SIB), targets that are behind shelters, obstacles, and enemy vehicles, unarmored and lightly armored. at a distance of up to 600 meters, a flameless and noiseless shot due to the use of a silencer of the original design and special powerful ammunition with subsonic bullet speed. Structurally, this rifle is a non-automatic weapon with manual reloading with the arrangement of its mechanisms and parts according to the bullpup scheme. The rifle is equipped with an integrated silencer, which can be removed for cleaning and transporting weapons.

TTH VKS / VSSK "Exhaust":

Type of cartridge: 12,7x55 mm (TWS-130).
Target firing range - to 600 m.
The mass of a rifle with an empty magazine, without an optical sight - 6,5 kg.
Dimensions without telescopic sight: 1125x220x220 mm.
Store capacity - 5 cartridges.
Shooting mode - single.

Sniper complex 6C8

Currently, the "Tsar's Crown" among all large-caliber Russian rifles belongs to the 6C8 sniper rifle, created at the plant to them. Degtyarev. This rifle was created already in the distant 1997 year, but for various reasons, for a long time it was not put into service and was not mass-produced. Having collected all the developments in 10 years and having worked on the bugs, the Degtyarevs managed to achieve the adoption of their weapons. It happened in June 2013 of the year. An ASVK rifle (a large-caliber army sniper rifle) was adopted by the Russian Armed Forces under the designation 12,7-mm sniper complex 6-XNNUMX.



The 12,7-mm sniper rifle 6C8 is designed to solve special fire missions to defeat unarmored and lightly armored equipment of the enemy, as well as openly located manpower, including in individual armor, group targets and other technical means at a distance of 1500 meters. The rifle can be used specially designed sniper cartridge 7H34 and the entire range of conventional cartridges caliber 12,7x108 mm.

Structurally, this large-caliber sniper rifle was made according to the bullpup scheme. When using this scheme, as is known, the trigger is in front of the trigger mechanism (USM), which allows to reduce the size and weight of the weapon, resulting in increased maneuverability and compactness. In general, this sniper rifle turned out quite simple and reliable, which is very important for military weapons. And the reviews about its combat operation are mostly positive.

TTX 6C8:

Type of cartridge: mm 12,7X108 (sniper 7H34).
Sighting range of shooting - 1500 m.
The mass of a rifle with an empty magazine, without an optical sight - 12,5 kg.
Rifle length - 1420 mm, barrel length - 1000 mm.
Store capacity - 5 cartridges.
Shooting mode - single.

SVLC-14С

But what to do when it comes to hitting targets behind the 1500 mark, or even 2000 meters? In this regard, the Russian gunsmiths will also find the answer. We are talking about sniper rifles, which are created by Vladislav Lobayev. His company "Tsar-Cannon", KB integrated systems and its own brand "Lobaev Arms" - the first in our country who began the development and production of high-precision and long-range weapons, ranging from the barrel and ending with the butt. If earlier Lobayev’s sniper rifles were made for a single client (most Lobaev Arms rifles are commercial products intended for sale to individuals), now the company is presenting a whole series of sniper rifles brought to mind and monstrously powerful, designed for different calibers . The leader among them is one of today's best sniper ammunition - .408 CheyTac.



According to Lobayev, the main tasks of the production of Lobaev Arms are distributed almost equally - this is a commercial component and work with Russian security forces. If we talk about the second paragraph, then, for example, in the FSO are familiar with Lobaeva rifles. Federal Security Service officers repeatedly scored victories in various sniper shooting competitions with his rifles. Currently, the range (one of the most important indicators) rifles of the Russian company "Lobaev Arms" are among the first in the world.

One of the most powerful in terms of effective firing range solutions from Lobaev Arms is the SVLC-14C rifle. It is worth noting that further two kilometers - this is the ultimate distance for sniper fire. Cases where snipers hit real targets at such a range are known, but they had more luck than the real capabilities of modern weapons. At the same time, the SVL rifle was originally designed to break through this barrier, turning an accurate target hit at a distance of more than 2000 meters into a guaranteed result. The rifle fulfilled its task successfully, but the company “Lobaev Arms” decided not to stop there and presented an improved version of the rifle under the designation SVLC-14С.

The latest world record for the range of effective sniper shots is 2475 meters. But in reality, the overwhelming majority of snipers work at significantly smaller shots. It is worth noting that effective shooting at a distance of more than a mile requires not only high personal skill of the shooter, but also specialized rifle weapons systems of the highest level of accuracy, which are simply not available to the overwhelming number of shooters of special services or army units. At the same time, SVLC-14С is just such an ultra-precise sniper system.



As you can easily guess the index "14" in the name of the super-long rifle says about the year of its development. SVL stands for “Lobaeva sniper rifle”, and the letter “K” in the index indicates the use of the gate group King v.3. This bolt group consists of a receiver in an aluminum casing, in which a hardened steel insert is fixed. Index "C" at the end of the rifle name is a reference to the English word Single. The basic model of a large-caliber sniper rifle SVLC-14С was and remains single-shot. This approach provides sufficient rigidity of the bolt box due to the presence in it of the minimum number of grooves and, consequently, a very high level of accuracy when shooting. The SVLC-14C rifle allows the shooter to confidently hit targets at a distance of up to 2300 meters.

TTX SVLC-14С:

Cartridge Type: .408 Cheytac / .338LM / .300WM.
Technical accuracy: 0.3 MOA / 9 mm between the centers (5 shots on 100 meters).
Maximum effective range: 2300 m.
Rifle weight: 9,6 kg.
Dimensions: 1430x96x175 mm.
Shop - no.
Shooting mode - single.

Information sources:
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201501200818-lu9j.htm
http://www.kbptula.ru
http://lobaevarms.ru
http://www.zid.ru
http://sniper-weapon.ru/rossiya
https://ru.wikipedia.org
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  1. Motherland Russia
    Motherland Russia 11 March 2015 06: 26 New
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    And why do not they arm specialists in Novorossia with these rifles.
    For a long time, half of the leaders of Ukrainian nationalists would talk with Satan.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 11 March 2015 08: 46 New
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      Quote: Motherland Russia
      And why do not they arm specialists in Novorossia with these rifles.

      Because that would be proof of our military assistance. In the meantime, everyone knows, but no one can prove anything, since the weapons after 1991, which were not officially purchased by the ruin army in the Russian Federation, were not involved in the hostilities.
      1. krokodil25
        krokodil25 11 March 2015 09: 17 New
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        The article is an unambiguous plus, it’s very interesting, because it’s all about the hillocks, but why didn’t they mention the CORD AND ORSIS T-5000 very interesting samples.
        1. Homeless
          Homeless 11 March 2015 09: 52 New
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          Because the ORSIS caliber does not reach 9mm
        2. Sukhoi
          Sukhoi 11 March 2015 15: 38 New
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          but why didn’t they mention CORD


          Sniper complex 6C8
        3. Begpyc
          Begpyc 11 March 2015 17: 50 New
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          I expected more from ORSIS although it may just not fit my hand ... :)
      2. limmor
        limmor 11 March 2015 21: 07 New
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        One of the large-caliber rifles lit up in the DPR in one of the videos of the militants in August-September 14g. If I am not mistaken was CORD
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 11 March 2015 09: 34 New
      +6
      Unfortunately, our specialists have such a rare weapon, and about the Lobaev rifle, she has an imported cartridge and therefore they will not be put into service ...
      Quote: Motherland Russia
      And why do not they arm specialists in Novorossia with these rifles.
      For a long time, half of the leaders of Ukrainian nationalists would talk with Satan.
      1. Begpyc
        Begpyc 11 March 2015 17: 37 New
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        And who will pay for this delivery? ... alas, my friend, as before, the question rests on the loot ...
    3. Dog of war
      Dog of war 11 March 2015 14: 25 New
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      Are you sure about this? http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_preview/4/8/7/3805784.jpg
    4. Net
      Net 11 March 2015 15: 11 New
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      Even this rifle will not reach Facebook
    5. Begpyc
      Begpyc 11 March 2015 17: 35 New
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      It’s not enough to think up - to collect - you also need talent and to sell :) the question is still the price, alas, the SPECIALS are not yet paid as they should be paid ....
    6. nebrat
      nebrat 11 March 2015 22: 06 New
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      Buy and equip specialists in New Russia, what's the problem?
    7. The comment was deleted.
    8. Bogranz
      Bogranz 14 March 2015 12: 18 New
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      No need to worry. The fighters of New Russia are not offended by attention and care.
    9. Izya Katzman
      Izya Katzman 15 March 2015 00: 37 New
      +1
      A couple of copies of KSVK still flashed even in the video.
  2. Russ_Dry
    Russ_Dry 11 March 2015 06: 36 New
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    OSV-96 "Burglar" is very similar to a ruzhbike from which they shot at robocop ^ _ ^
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  4. PSih2097
    PSih2097 11 March 2015 06: 42 New
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    Well, at the moment in the world the best rifle, like a sniper complex, is CheyTac Intervention M200, a question for our gunsmiths, why do not they produce anything like this with us -
    the system of long-range sniper weapons CheyTac LRRS (Long Range Rifle System) was specially designed to destroy "soft targets" at long ranges (soft targets, American ephemeism, meaning people - enemy soldiers, criminals, etc., in contrast to hard targets - "solid goals", that is, material resources such as cars and other equipment).
    According to CheyTac Associates, a manufacturer of .408 cartridges and weapons for them, the CheyTac LRRS system consisting of a CheyTac Intervention M200 rifle with a Nightforce NXS 5.5-22X optical sight, .408 CheyTac cartridges, a proprietary ballistic computer (based on the PDA Casio Cassiopea M70) and The Kestrel 4000 wind, temperature and atmospheric pressure sensors connected to it ensure effective firing at a growth target at a range of 2000 meters, guaranteeing accuracy of less than 1 arc minute (1 MOA).



    1. Major_Vortex
      Major_Vortex 11 March 2015 07: 18 New
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      Quote: PSih2097
      Well, at the moment in the world the best rifle, like a sniper complex, is CheyTac Intervention M200, a question for our gunsmiths, why do not they produce anything like this with us

      I put you a plus for the pictures, but you did not read the article. The last rifle from the review surpasses this American counterpart in combat characteristics.
      1. Dan4eG
        Dan4eG 11 March 2015 09: 29 New
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        I put you a plus for the pictures, but you did not read the article. The last rifle from the review surpasses this American counterpart in combat characteristics.


        Yes here is no the same:
        SVLK-14S: 0.3 MOA / 9 mm between centers (5 shots per 100 meters)
        CheyTac Intervention M200: above 1 MOA at a distance of more than 2000 m!
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 11 March 2015 14: 40 New
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          Quote: Dan4eG

          Yes here is no the same:
          SVLK-14S: 0.3 MOA / 9 mm between the centers (5 shots per 100 meters)
          CheyTac Intervention M200: above 1 MOA at a distance of more than 2000 m!

          What they write about this rifle is a regular PR. The FSB once and for all refused to purchase rifles from Lobaev, because this comrade even managed to throw her. Tests of SVLK-S in 604 TsSN showed that the claimed characteristics of this rifle in real life do not even stand next to the M200, 1.5 MOA is the smallest group.
          Quote: Basarev
          Yah. The accuracy of this M200 is lower than that of SVLK14S by more than three times! And this is a huge difference in favor of the Russian rifle. Therefore, I personally think the best is the Lobaev rifle.

          Lobaev has repeatedly overestimated the accuracy of his rifles. After testing all the developments from Lobaev in the Emirates during the certification of trunks for the state market, not one was certified, because the developer indicated overstated shooting results when applying for certification.
          Quote: krokodil25
          The article says that the FSO won the competition precisely with our weapons.

          After Lobaev’s departure to the Emirates, more or less working rifles were decommissioned ...
          1. LobaevArms
            LobaevArms 12 March 2015 17: 12 New
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            Your words are very interesting, maybe they happened to be about Tsar Cannon, but not now when a lot has changed, or rather the approach to the client, manufacturing technology, machine tool fleet, etc.
            Accuracy was never overstated by us; in recent tests, SVLK-14С showed accuracy of 0.33moa during control shooting at the client. Search on the Internet.
            The fact that the FSB refused once and for all is also cool, but the current procurement negotiations suggest otherwise.
            Sincerely.
        2. Major_Vortex
          Major_Vortex 11 March 2015 15: 08 New
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          Quote: Dan4eG
          [Yes, no, still:
          SVLK-14S: 0.3 MOA / 9 mm between centers (5 shots per 100 meters)
          CheyTac Intervention M200: above 1 MOA at a distance of more than 2000 m!


          At least a little study the topic before writing posts about these weapons. On the subject, what accuracy (in the MOA) does Lobaev guarantee for his rifles and which one gets the best shooters. The last world record is also at Lobaev with his proprietary rifle. And then read real reviews from the tests of these American women, and not from advertising booklets. Lobaev’s rifles are many times more accurate than these American ones, although they use similar cartridges. The Arabs even invited Lobaev to their house when they studied the Americans at test firing in the USA and learned how the Tsar Cannon Lobaev fired. Lobaev himself laid out the situation with the Arabs in detail in order to save the public from ridiculous gossip and speculation. There are only a few people who make Lobaev level rifles in the world. The mass production of such weapons does not even smell. Exclusively piece assembly. Stably 0,3 MOA Lobaev guarantees, but with increased canopies of gunpowder and more accurately shoot from his rifles. And Intervention M200 does not even show 1 MOA at the training ground, in contrast to the declared one. And now transfer this to a distance of 1,5-2 km and it will immediately become clear from which rifle where the bullet will fly.

          Lobaev on his site spreads all the necessary information on his own rifles. Use the source.
          1. Timeout
            Timeout 11 March 2015 15: 42 New
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            Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
            guarantees Lobaev with his rifles

            Alas, his guarantees and reality are completely different things.
            Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
            The last world record is also at Lobaev with his proprietary rifle.

            The official confirmed, registered record in sniper shooting is 2430 meters from the L115A3. And as you can see, Lobaev has nothing to do with him.
            Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
            Lobaev’s rifles are many times more accurate than these American ones, although they use similar cartridges.
            In order not to argue, you can look at the protocols for benchrest, and again Lobaev is not there either.
            Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
            Lobaev himself laid out the situation with the Arabs in detail in order to save the public from ridiculous gossip and speculation.

            These are the words of Lobaev himself, but are from the Arabs themselves. He offered the lowest price.
            Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
            There are only a few people who make Lobaev level rifles in the world. The mass production of such weapons does not even smell.

            Alas, dear. Such masters are enough. Only they do not drive a frank marriage, and are responsible for the quality of their business.
            Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
            And Intervention M200 does not even show 1 MOA at the training ground, in contrast to the declared one. And now transfer this to a distance of 1,5-2 km and it will immediately become clear from which rifle where the bullet will fly.

            Did you shoot this rifle to claim?
            Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
            Lobaev on his site spreads all the necessary information on his own rifles. Use the source.

            Lobaev source of truth and innocence? But reality says something else ...
            1. Major_Vortex
              Major_Vortex 11 March 2015 21: 29 New
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              Quote: Timeout
              Alas, his guarantees and reality are completely different things.


              I am neither cold nor hot from your words. If you understand what I mean laughing
              1. Timeout
                Timeout 12 March 2015 02: 14 New
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                Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                I am neither cold nor hot from your words. If you understand what I mean

                It becomes cold or hot for the buyers of these devices, after buying on advertising and buying Lobaev’s products, they begin to tear their hair out of their ass.
                1. Major_Vortex
                  Major_Vortex 12 March 2015 03: 42 New
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                  Quote: Timeout
                  It becomes cold or hot for the buyers of these devices, after buying on advertising and buying Lobaev’s products, they begin to tear their hair out of their ass.


                  High-precision rifles in .408 caliber are not fiberglass spinning rods, but specific goods. And those who purchase this product know why it will be used and how. What kind of advertising are you writing about?

                  If the rifle is garbage, then no one will buy it, and if it’s good, then the goods will not be stored in the company's warehouses. She has high accuracy, knots run-in, ergonomics from a high-class athlete-shooter.

                  It is very difficult to hide construction screws in fasteners or get along with metalworking with such a rifle. There is generally little that can be hidden from the eyes of an experienced user. A test shooting will reveal even such shoals and flaws that the eye of an experienced shooter is not always fixed during visual inspection.
                  1. Timeout
                    Timeout 12 March 2015 08: 01 New
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                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    It is very difficult to hide construction screws in fasteners or get along with metalworking with such a rifle.

                    http://forum.guns.ru/forum/blog/18810/19496.html

                    Take a look at this topic, and everything will be clear. And this is the quality of metalworking from Lobaev:
            2. LobaevArms
              LobaevArms 12 March 2015 17: 23 New
              +3
              If you follow our company or at least the news in the field of ultra-long range shooting, you might notice that Russia Today was recently present at the 2000 + m firing, that is, it can no longer be said that Lobaev is lying and the accuracy he claims is not real.
              And this is not the limit, next week we are going to try to shoot at a range that no one has tried before us. But everything has its time.
              I would also like to hear "the words of the Arabs themselves" and where did you get the information? Are you related to the Tawazun concern? Or did your grandmother whisper?
              If you have something to say about the quality of our rifles, about frank marriage, inconsistency of declared accuracy, please visit our production.
              Tarusa Lenin Street 61.
              Sincerely.
          2. Dan4eG
            Dan4eG 11 March 2015 21: 04 New
            +1
            How many emotions !!!
            Follow the link and enjoy it!
            http://federationofsniping.ru/index.php?action=page&id=1
            1. Major_Vortex
              Major_Vortex 11 March 2015 23: 40 New
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              Quote: Dan4eG
              How many emotions !!!
              Follow the link and enjoy it!
              http://federationofsniping.ru/index.php?action=page&id=1

              Lobaev’s rifles under the .408 caliber show up to 0,15 MOA, Lobaev guarantees 0,3 MOA according to his prescription for the equipment of cartridges, but does not prohibit experimenting either - the rigidity of the design of his rifle allows him to achieve higher results than the 0,3 MOA declared by him, as he believes.
              What is a receiver with a hole for a store and without it is well felt by an athlete-shooter even at classic sports distances under much less energetic calibers than .408.
              The American received strong advertising support and a promising cartridge, but the real samples of rifles from the American company did not show outstanding results. And the rifle went hand in hand, as they say. Individual gunsmiths achieve good results with their rifles created under this cartridge, Lobaev too.
              By your link, I don’t understand at all what you want to show. If just pictures, then it’s clear.
              1. Timeout
                Timeout 12 March 2015 02: 27 New
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                Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                By your link, I don’t understand at all what you want to show. If just pictures, then it’s clear.

                A comrade wants to show that there is no trust in Lobaev’s fakes and that the FSR uses proven weapons. For example, Thor M408 or RANGEMASTER .408 for some reason are in demand being serial, in contrast to the Lobaevsky ones.
                1. Major_Vortex
                  Major_Vortex 12 March 2015 03: 47 New
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                  Quote: Timeout
                  A comrade wants to show that there is no trust in Lobaev’s fakes and that the FSR uses proven weapons. For example, Thor M408 or RANGEMASTER .408 for some reason are in demand being serial, in contrast to the Lobaevsky ones.


                  Is that how you treat a photograph? wink
                  1. Timeout
                    Timeout 12 March 2015 08: 04 New
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                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    Is that how you treat a photograph?

                    Do you need to be cured? Alas, this is not amenable to treatment!
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 11 March 2015 12: 08 New
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        Is this a complex?

        There is a rifle, there is ammunition. There is no electronics associated with them.
      3. Begpyc
        Begpyc 11 March 2015 17: 47 New
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        :) The best rifle in the world !!! :) buddy - few have seen her and you can hardly find her photo at all - now a lot of weapons are tested and the criteria are based on functional features - where is the best for shooting? as? in what conditions? here, the runoff of these various derivatives turns out to be the simplest and most understandable to a simple layman - climate, lighting, humidity, rate of fire, weight, dimensions, caliber, ease of use and not least important - reliability ... there is no perfect rifle for everything and there will never be anything the Americans would not have imagined themselves ...
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 12 March 2015 05: 46 New
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          Quote: Begpyc
          The best rifle in the world !!! :) buddy - few have seen her and you can hardly find her photo at all - now a lot of weapons are tested and the criteria are based on functional features - where is the best for shooting?

          You believe, even held in my hands ...
      4. PSih2097
        PSih2097 12 March 2015 05: 42 New
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        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
        The last rifle from the review surpasses this American counterpart in combat characteristics.

        You minus ... did not read ... do you think 1 moa per 100 meters and 1 km, and two km?
    2. Basarev
      Basarev 11 March 2015 07: 27 New
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      Yah. The accuracy of this M200 is lower than that of SVLK14S by more than three times! And this is a huge difference in favor of the Russian rifle. Therefore, I personally think the best is the Lobaev rifle.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 12 March 2015 05: 53 New
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        Quote: Basarev
        Yah. The accuracy of this M200 is lower than that of SVLK14S by more than three times! And this is a huge difference in favor of the Russian rifle. Therefore, I personally think the best is the Lobaev rifle.

        where is the data from? from manuals RHBZ ??? Or did he shoot samples? MINUS
    3. krokodil25
      krokodil25 11 March 2015 09: 21 New
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      Quote: PSih2097
      and why they don’t produce anything like this with us -

      The article says that the FSO won the competition precisely with our weapons.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 12 March 2015 05: 52 New
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        Quote: krokodil25
        Quote: PSih2097
        and why they don’t produce anything like this with us -

        The article says that the FSO won the competition precisely with our weapons.

        nobody will take her into the army, then .408 is not produced from us, but to buy ...
        I have to bother with the current GB, they, with the prezik and the government, in which case they will dump in the bunker and will sit there ...
    4. Begpyc
      Begpyc 11 March 2015 17: 48 New
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      :) The best rifle in the world !!! :) buddy - few have seen her and you can hardly find her photo at all - now a lot of weapons are tested and the criteria are based on functional features - where is the best for shooting? as? in what conditions? here, the runoff of these various derivatives turns out to be the simplest and most understandable to a simple layman - climate, lighting, humidity, rate of fire, weight, dimensions, caliber, ease of use and not least important - reliability ... there is no perfect rifle for everything and there will never be anything the Americans would not have imagined themselves ...
    5. Sibiriya
      Sibiriya 12 March 2015 18: 19 New
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      Why are you so sure not ?! Not shown just for the time being
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 11 March 2015 06: 52 New
    +1
    I wonder where the trunks are made for such products ... because the goods are piece and expensive and require high technology.
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 11 March 2015 07: 41 New
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      Lobaev has his own (imported) machines of the highest class, by the way, and forgings of barrels too. Ours say they can also have such quality blanks, but in order not to come out "GOLD" it is necessary to make a large batch, so it is cheaper "over the hill".
      For everyone else - factory.
      1. Timeout
        Timeout 11 March 2015 14: 47 New
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        Quote: alex-cn
        Lobaev has his own (imported) machines of the highest class, by the way, and forgings of barrels too. Ours say they can also have such quality blanks, but in order not to come out "GOLD" it is necessary to make a large batch, so it is cheaper "over the hill".
        For everyone else - factory.

        Lobaev has the usual Steyrovskoye and Rugerovskoye equipment that is supplied for private business, he orders barrel blanks from Walter. At the exhibition of precision weapons in Switzerland, he received a total of 3 points out of 10 possible. The US market closed itself down, giving overstated characteristics of its barrels.
        1. LobaevArms
          LobaevArms 12 March 2015 17: 06 New
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          Hello, it’s very interesting, but for some reason neither Vlad nor our company knows about anything of the above. We make the trunks ourselves, we were not at the exhibition in Switzerland. We did not enter the US market.
          Sincerely.
      2. Timeout
        Timeout 12 March 2015 08: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: alex-cn
        Lobaev has its own (imported) machines of the highest class,

        A small gallery on the Lobaev machines:
        Romi M 420. - a cheap universal CNC lathe, has not been manufactured for a long time:

        The lathe does not know which years:

        Turkish drill "KURT":


        Precision Apprentice:

        Precision automatic mandrel:

        Workshop video:
        1. alex-cn
          alex-cn 12 March 2015 09: 35 New
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          I will not argue, I focus only on open information ... and it consisted in the fact that he had everything super, I hoped that it was so. Few people fall for unscrupulous advertising. But in the first films about him it slipped that he was connected with specialists and works for them, so I believed ...
          1. LobaevArms
            LobaevArms 12 March 2015 17: 25 New
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            So we’re really okay, we don’t complain.
        2. LobaevArms
          LobaevArms 13 March 2015 20: 10 New
          +1
          No matter what year and for how much the equipment was bought "at least they shoot" V.V (s), on the contrary, achieving record performance on "cheap machine tools and automatic drones" is worthy of respect.
  6. La-5
    La-5 11 March 2015 06: 57 New
    +4
    Quote: Motherland Russia
    And why do not they arm specialists in Novorossia with these rifles.
    For a long time, half of the leaders of Ukrainian nationalists would talk with Satan.

    Because Russia is not officially supplying weapons to Novorossia, and the "spotting" of such rifles in the Donbass will immediately arouse suspicion.
    1. K-50
      K-50 11 March 2015 09: 37 New
      +7
      Quote: La-5
      Because Russia is not officially supplying weapons to Novorossia, and the "spotting" of such rifles in the Donbass will immediately arouse suspicion.

      But why. The article also states that some weapons are bought by private individuals. So all demand immediately disappears, since no one forbids a private person to buy a rifle from Lobaev, well, a large-caliber, well, long-range one, I wanted to arrange a safari on banderlogs laughing
  7. Tatar-in
    Tatar-in 11 March 2015 07: 07 New
    +3
    Rifles are good, but from the beginning we need to organize the training of professional snipers. At this stage, we only have the rudiments. This should not be a general military fighter, but a trained frame, mentally and physically.
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 11 March 2015 07: 44 New
      +3
      And who said that we don’t have this, ours regularly take places in sniper competitions.
    2. Chiropractor
      Chiropractor 11 March 2015 12: 04 New
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      Quote: Tatar-in
      At this stage, we only have the rudiments.



      why offend?
      Yes, in motorized rifles, a fighter with SVD is not a sniper yet, but there are enough snipers in professions ..
      1. Tatar-in
        Tatar-in 11 March 2015 12: 49 New
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        I’m not trying to offend anyone; there’s no question of special units. Just speech motorized rifle. Show me at least one part where there are at least two fighters who can knock out 1000 out of 1500 at 6-10 meters. I am not saying that everything is bad and everything is lost. I am convinced that this school needs to be developed, and not just have a guy from Siberia who has been a hunter all his life and gets squirrels in his eye. It is necessary to train specialists, sniper crew if you want, shooter and spotter. Modern wars will not be waged like a crowd against a crowd, modern war is a clash of professionals
        1. Hell's Angel
          Hell's Angel 11 March 2015 13: 28 New
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          which can 1000-1500
          If you remove the zeros, they can. In motorized rifle units, except for the SVD, well, maybe in the "courtiers" of the SV - 98 there is nothing.
        2. leshiy076
          leshiy076 11 March 2015 19: 44 New
          +3
          It is not the task of motorized riflemen to defeat targets with single shots at such a distance. And if suddenly such a specialist happens to be in motorized rifles, then this is not for long.
  8. ayuric
    ayuric 11 March 2015 07: 09 New
    +1
    we have something to be proud of
  9. Pate
    Pate 11 March 2015 09: 23 New
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    And why in the article ORSIS T-5000 is not taken into account, I’m interested here.
  10. La-5
    La-5 11 March 2015 10: 22 New
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    Quote: K-50
    Quote: La-5
    Because Russia is not officially supplying weapons to Novorossia, and the "spotting" of such rifles in the Donbass will immediately arouse suspicion.

    But why. The article also states that some weapons are bought by private individuals. So all demand immediately disappears, since no one forbids a private person to buy a rifle from Lobaev, well, a large-caliber, well, long-range one, I wanted to arrange a safari on banderlogs laughing

    The fact of the matter is that only Lobaev rifles are sold to private individuals, the rest of the large-caliber guns are not accessible to civilians.
  11. Thekakojto
    Thekakojto 11 March 2015 10: 37 New
    +1
    good article.
    Quote: Motherland Russia
    And why do not they arm specialists in Novorossia with these rifles.


    Well, probably because the weapon is specific. and who said that they are not there? because there is no video of these rifles?
    and in general, somehow more are needed (at least there were) d30 and not such rifles. yes and in general the question is stupid.
    Quote: Pate
    And why in the article ORSIS T-5000 is not taken into account, I’m interested here.


    But is an Orsis suitable for caliber? 7,62 × 51 mm (.308 Winchester),
    7,62 × 67 mm (.300 Winchester Magnum),
    8,6 × 70 mm (.338 Lapua Magnum)
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 11 March 2015 19: 10 New
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      Quote: TheKakojto
      Quote: Motherland of Russia And why don't they arm specialists with these rifles in Novorossii.nu, probably because the weapon is specific. and who said that they are not there? because there is no video of these rifles? and in general, somehow more are needed (at least they were) d30 and not such rifles. and in general the question is stupid.

      Let's not imagine speculation for facts. While this is the only way to prove the presence of these weapons, everything else is propaganda!
  12. Volodja
    Volodja 11 March 2015 11: 10 New
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    Quote: Motherland Russia
    And why do not they arm specialists in Novorossia with these rifles.

    So the pleasure is seen expensive.
  13. mc1aren
    mc1aren 11 March 2015 12: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: krokodil25
    ... but why didn’t they mention CORD ...

    this is the 6S8 sniper complex ...
  14. washi
    washi 11 March 2015 12: 52 New
    +2
    The main thing is not a rifle, but the person who possesses it.
    Even from the most sophisticated vintar, most site visitors will not be able to work out normally.
    And for a real Hunter, a good rifle is an easier job, just ...
    1. leshiy076
      leshiy076 11 March 2015 19: 52 New
      +1
      Here I completely agree. It is more difficult to find a person and prepare him for firing from such weapons than to make the weapon itself. With me, people fired from SVD, ordinary motorized riflemen, conscripts, the result is negative. In some, even from AK 74 solitary it turned out better. So this is just an SVD and a distance of 300-400 m. And what can we say about a range of 1000 m.
  15. Artyom
    Artyom 11 March 2015 13: 34 New
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    in Novorossia there are PTRs, put powerful optics on them and do not worry! The bullet there is such that only somewhere to get in, there are few chances to survive!
  16. Thekakojto
    Thekakojto 11 March 2015 14: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: Vasya
    The main thing is not a rifle, but the person who possesses it.
    Even from the most sophisticated vintar, most site visitors will not be able to work out normally.
    And for a real Hunter, a good rifle is an easier job, just ...


    not in the eyebrow but in the eye! such complexes show their advantage in the areas close to maximum. an ordinary person at such a range will not fall into the silhouette of a tank, but what a person ... really, few people understand this =)
  17. Massik
    Massik 11 March 2015 15: 00 New
    +2
    The OSV has a real sighting range of 800 meters, then only shoot at the APCs, but not at all at people. I would not bother with the invention of the bicycle, but quietly and peacefully bought Sako rifle and ammunition plants from the Finns, if we ourselves were doing laziness for good.
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  19. tchoni
    tchoni 11 March 2015 15: 02 New
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    But I wonder why there is no talk about accepting a 9 mm cartridge as a sniper and for a machine gun? Indeed, in fact, we already have 2 rounds in service with the rifle squad (and if we count from 7.62x39, then all three) A more powerful round, in my opinion, should significantly increase the capabilities of a sniper and machine gunner.
  20. Argon
    Argon 11 March 2015 15: 03 New
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    The material is quite old, we fucked up Lobaev's "Tsar Cannon", he has now moved to the United Arab Emirates. And I'm interested in the device in the first photo in the article. If anyone knows, educate.
  21. leonardo_1971
    leonardo_1971 11 March 2015 18: 37 New
    +2
    I tried to shoot from the OSV-96 in the Pyatigorsk school of snipers. There is almost no recoil. But the feeling is that you jump along with the rifle. And the sound of the shot is just a shell shock. The eyes are watery and the head ached sharply. Very loud! Still unmasking from the raised dust after the shot. Another assembly at a tricky angle. it turns out not from 1 time. and so POWER!
    1. Massik
      Massik 11 March 2015 19: 54 New
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      Are you showing your photo?)
  22. SAVA555.IVANOV
    SAVA555.IVANOV 11 March 2015 21: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: Motherland Russia
    And why do not they arm specialists in Novorossia with these rifles.
    For a long time, half of the leaders of Ukrainian nationalists would talk with Satan.


    At 4.45 onwards, this reptile had interesting thoughts. And the militia would not be prevented by large-caliber sv one shot and the jeep stopped, otherwise they were used to driving jeeps and pickup trucks on safari here.
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  24. Valery T.
    Valery T. 11 March 2015 22: 38 New
    -1
    In short, the rifles we have gotten to do. It remains to do a lot of them and learn how to apply.
  25. Zabvo
    Zabvo 12 March 2015 02: 24 New
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    Quote: limmor
    One of the large-caliber rifles lit up in the DPR in one of the videos of the militants in August-September 14g. If I am not mistaken was CORD

    If we didn't "see" anyway and we weren't there in August ... wink
  26. Rzhevsky
    Rzhevsky 12 March 2015 03: 15 New
    -1
    Quote: La-5

    Because Russia is not officially supplying weapons to Novorossia, and the "spotting" of such rifles in the Donbass will immediately arouse suspicion.

    C'mon, everyone knows for a long time! how much and what was sent. By the way, on ORT on March 09 in the news they spotted a bald Cossack with a SVDS rifle! By the way, in Ukraine there are none.
    If the news is already shining openly, then what secrets can we talk about ?!
  27. PSih2097
    PSih2097 12 March 2015 05: 58 New
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    In short, practically "some stuff"... (c) VAF
  28. Phantom crowner
    Phantom crowner April 25 2015 00: 37 New
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    It is not unfortunate, but in the midst of the krupnyak Barreta and Macmillans rule! It's a pity.