Prague Spring, or the Danube Military Strategic Operation?

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To the new historical assessment of the Czechoslovak events of 1968 and their participants

On the night of 20 on 21 August 1968, the troops of the five member states of the Warsaw Pact Organization entered Czechoslovakia. The military strategic operation "Danube" began - the largest military operation in Europe after the Second World War. As a result of its implementation, it was possible to prevent the revision of the postwar world order and to preserve Czechoslovakia’s membership in the Eastern European socialist bloc. An agreement was concluded on the conditions for the temporary stay of Soviet troops in the territory of Czechoslovakia, and the Soviet group remained in Czechoslovakia until the 1991 year.



More than 45 years have passed since the Czechoslovak events, but today their history is more topical than ever. It is quite in tune with the alarming modernity and the turning point of that time, and the magnitude of the events. 1968 year clearly demonstrates the relativity of historical time, the possibility of concentration of extremely significant events in a short chronological interval. This is one of the maxima of the geopolitical confrontation, the significance of which is especially acute in the context of the “second edition” of the Cold War being experienced today. The ill-wishers of our country are already using their own interpretation of Czechoslovak events to substantiate the thesis about its initial hostility to Western civilization and the legitimacy of the latest sanctions as “punishment for Ukraine”. An analysis of Czechoslovak events is also important in that the legal status of their participants often becomes the subject of the professional activities of lawyers, who, despite the fairness of the requirements presented to the state, due to imperfect legislation based on the ideological principles of the late 80's - the beginning of the 90's, cannot provide proper legal assistance to applicants. And the fact that the current legislation is hostage to the decadent ideology of the perestroika period does not raise any doubts among the thinking person. So, is it necessary for the legislator to change his approach to both the analysis of the events in Czechoslovakia of the 1968 year and the determination of the legal status of their participants?

It is well known that from a military point of view, the operation "Danube" was carried out brilliantly. An undeniable strategic success was achieved. However, historical assessments of the Czechoslovak events are still not satisfactory. First of all, the key question has not been resolved: what was decisive in the 1968 events of the year - the so-called “Prague Spring” with the notorious “socialism with a human face” or the military-strategic operation “Danube” as a historically justified response to a frank challenge to the post-war world ? The answer to the question is largely determined by the personal civil choice of the researchers.

It has long been noticed by us that during the upsurges of Russia, the public seems to be ashamed of the greatness of their own country. And only after going through a period of catastrophic (crisis) development, caused by the fluctuation of state foundations, does public opinion begin to lean toward overcoming internal counter-statehood.

At the end of the 80 of the 20th century, pro-Western-oriented liberals succeeded in inculcating in the public consciousness a sense of historical guilt over the 1968 year, presenting the events solely as a peaceful “Prague Spring”. The democratic transformations, in their opinion, were interrupted as a result of Soviet aggression, although it did not meet with organized military resistance, but faced with the resistance of the people to communist totalitarianism. The authors, who sought to study the Czechoslovak events in the general context of the Cold War, who were trying to emphasize the possible negative consequences for the entire world community in the event of the defeat of the USSR and its allies, were then few and unpopular. History has been supplanted by lightweight journalism with its characteristic fragmentation, which makes it easy to implant pseudoscientific myths.

It should be recognized that the wide dissemination of such assessments has been possible largely as a result of the low level of Soviet historical works. Official Soviet historiography followed L. Brezhnev, who voiced the thesis on the “international duty” of socialist countries in November 1968 (the so-called “Brezhnev doctrine”), interpreted the introduction of troops solely as a preventive measure aimed at preventing the separation of the country from the socialist camp by those who had chosen power "Revisionists", while artificially sticking out the ideological component of the Czechoslovak events.

The objective necessity of having a military contingent in Czechoslovakia occupying a central position in Europe (which its leaders opposed) was obscured in every way in the conditions of bloc confrontation. As a result, for a further liberal revaluation, it was enough just to mechanically replace the “pluses” with the “minuses”, which happened immediately after the betrayal of the “Danube” by the political leadership of the era of Mikhail Gorbachev. Numerous compilations claiming to be scientific have appeared, only repetitive offenses, mainly by Czech and Slovak authors seeking to take an ideological revenge for the military-political defeat of the 1968 of the year.

Modern ideas about the Czechoslovak events of 1968 continue to include many diverse points of view, historical assessments, and political myths. At the same time, the liberal approach is increasingly revealing its own scientific failure. His textbook poetic expression ("Tanks go through Prague / In the woven blood of dawn. / Tanks are going to be true, / Which is not a newspaper ”) is already perceived mainly only as a reason for reflection on the inclination of the creative intelligentsia to national treason. The social interest in Prague Spring is gradually dying out.

The main liberal dogmas have already been subjected to reasoned criticism. The possibility of forming a truly scientific historical assessments. Probably, 40 — 50 years is the necessary period, which allows you to avoid distortions caused by the close proximity of the event, to move away from direct projection on the scientific knowledge of ideological attitudes. In this regard, the geopolitical approach with the characteristic focus on Operation Danube and the perception of the Prague Spring as the first attempt of a “color” revolution organized from outside is attracting more and more attention. The formation and development of this approach is in many respects directly related to the ascetic efforts of a number of direct participants in the 1968 events of the year, dissatisfied with the conclusions and assessments, originally Soviet, and later liberal historiography.

It is noteworthy that almost all, including the rank and file, the participants of the "Danube" retained the conviction of the historical justification of this military strategic operation. Moreover, with their social growth, the scores of the operation were getting higher. A common historical memory led to the rapid formation of a community of like-minded people who directed their activities towards the restoration of historical truth. The first solution to this task was taken up by the legendary participant in the operation and the researcher of the Danube Guard colonel V.P. Suntsov, who published the acclaimed work “Operation Danube”: how it was ”and in many respects contributed to the publication of the collection“ Stinks have stolen the world from Europe ”. Of course, even before V.P. Suntsev published memoirs of the participants of the Czechoslovak events, but it was he who managed to make the work of collecting and publishing historical materials organized and regular.

The main conclusion of V.P. Sunntsev, according to which the successful conduct of the Danube prevented the upcoming invasion of the North Atlantic Treaty and avoided a large-scale, possibly nuclear, war in Europe, was a major contribution to the study of the military-strategic operation Danube.

Activities V.P. Suntseva inspired veterans living in the entire post-Soviet space. Increased their desire to create their own organizations.

In Rostov-on-Don, the Danube-68 public movement emerged, bringing together the participants in the operation and today known far beyond the region. Along with intra-organizational work and participation in the patriotic education of young people, the movement set itself the task of preserving the historical memory of the “Danube” and establishing a fair historical assessment of the operation and its participants. By personal efforts, it was possible not only to preserve and publish a large amount of materials capable of compensating still inaccessible archival sources, but also to substantiate conclusions that significantly change the understanding of the Czechoslovak events of the 1968 of the year.

It became finally clear that the “Prague Spring” was no more than an ideological cover for the next attempt to revise the postwar world order by the forces of aggression, which began as early as 1956 in Hungary by the aggression of Czechoslovakia, only the unenviable role of a springboard. For a proper assessment of the nature of the military-strategic operation, it is crucial to take into account the fact that all the participants of the Danube, without exception, had to act in new, especially difficult, conditions. For the first time, the main elements of the so-called “war of the new generation” were actively used.

The characteristics of such a war are not currently a secret. They are associated with the impact on the enemy by methods of primarily psychological nature, using social manipulation. Most powerful weapons in the “war of the new generation”, it’s not so much the military contingent as the mass media. The basic mechanism is straightforward. It consists, firstly, in the artificial creation of a so-called “overheating point”, secondly, in considering this situation through a magnifying glass (multiple replication of its own interpretation of the event using the media), and thirdly, in disseminating this distorted view to the whole country. The role of the media component is so great that the fighting is no longer for the sake of victory, but for the so-called PR. Ideological stamps are imposed not only on the local population, but also on the entire world community. The basic signs of such a war are also associated with this mechanism: the use of civilians as human shields against the troops; the desire to maximize their own losses; attributing to the enemy forces the actions that the real provocateur practices himself. (When you look at the photographs of Prague 1968 of the year, you unwittingly mark the unnatural stage performances of the protests, and cadre of Libya, Serbia, Syria and other “liberated” or “liberated” countries shot in the same way). Change in the historical assessment of the military-strategic operation “ Danube ”provides an opportunity for a new question about the status of participants in this operation.

It should be recognized that Russia is indebted to veterans: the issue of recognizing this category of servicemen as participants in hostilities has not yet been resolved. Czechoslovakia is not in the corresponding list of states. The reasons for this are not entirely clear. Despite numerous appeals to various instances, the case is limited to official official replies, the content of which makes you smile only once again. Of course, the issue of veteran status is far from simple, and no one offers to solve it without taking into account possible international legal consequences. However, one cannot accept the fact that the vulnerability of the defenders of the Fatherland is a sad tradition of our state, which declares high patriotism and forgets (and sometimes represses) its own heroes.

However, despite this annoying circumstance, we still pay tribute to veterans - participants of the events of the distant 1968 year. Perhaps in the near future, the legislator will radically change his position on this issue. However, this should be preceded by a fundamental change in state ideology, based on an understanding of the real meaning of historical events from both the distant and recent past.

Information about authors:
Bulgakov Vladimir Vasilievich - Hero of the Russian Federation, Colonel-General, Candidate of Military Sciences.
Shevchenko Vitaly Viktorovich - a participant in Operation Danube during his military service, an honorary employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Major General of the Police, Chairman of the Rostov Public Organization of Soldiers-Internationalists Danube-68.
Aleksey Vladimirovich Bailov - Candidate of Historical Sciences, Associate Professor at the Department of Sociology, History, Political Science of the Institute of Management in Ecological, Economic and Social Systems of the Southern Federal University.
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  1. -21
    11 March 2015 05: 37
    "I'm not wearing a sweater with number 68 because I have a bad attitude towards Russians. No, I took number 68 because I hate communists. These are two different things. Roughly the same thing I would be asked, if I took number 45. Everyone would think that this is a sign of disrespect for the Germans who started World War II, and this is just my protest against the Nazis. I took number 68 because of my grandfather. Jaromir Jr. is still for now he is proud that his grandfather in the spring of 68 went to the world as another free Czech. "

    1. +19
      11 March 2015 07: 49
      Quote: Gleb
      I took the 68th number because of my grandfather. Jaromir Jr. is still proud that his grandfather left in the spring of the 68th in another free Czech.

      Grandfather may have left free, and now the homeland is bent under amers. Granddaughter does not talk about this.
      1. +7
        11 March 2015 07: 50
        Exactly. Just bent, to say the least. Gave in, in the worst sense of the word !!! So that the youngest may not tryndet about freedom of the motherland.
        1. -15
          11 March 2015 09: 57
          Quote: qwert
          Exactly. Just bent, to say the least. Gave in, in the worst sense of the word !!! So that the youngest may not tryndet about freedom of the motherland.

          And what is wrong in the Czech Republic? There is no freedom, and President Milos Zeman is dancing to the tune of Germany or the United States?
          Maybe you are disgusted by the fact that the Czechs, having no gas, no diamonds, no oil, live better than the Russians and you inclusive?
          1. +9
            11 March 2015 11: 49
            In the Czech Republic, no one even calls the president. He can at least admit love to Martians. In no way affects life in the country.
          2. +8
            11 March 2015 13: 51
            Quote: Nayhas
            Quote: qwert
            Exactly. Just bent, to say the least. Gave in, in the worst sense of the word !!! So that the youngest may not tryndet about freedom of the motherland.

            And what is wrong in the Czech Republic? There is no freedom, and President Milos Zeman is dancing to the tune of Germany or the United States?
            Maybe you are disgusted by the fact that the Czechs, having no gas, no diamonds, no oil, live better than the Russians and you inclusive?

            They live off the sex industry (and once they filmed fairy tales for children) and our nostalgia for Czech beer.
            All industry belongs to Germany, as in 1940
            And the problems in 1968 went because of internal contradictions between Czechs and Slovaks + external support.
            1. +3
              11 March 2015 23: 40
              To the point - Skoda, Hornbach and other companies. Back in 2003, when I lived there, there was a feeling that everything belongs to the Germans ...
          3. +3
            11 March 2015 22: 55
            How do you know how I live, for example? And then, Czechs and Slovaks and under the USSR lived better than we as a whole, but also what of this. We lived free, strangely enough now such a statement for some. And now you are dependent and dependent.
      2. +3
        11 March 2015 07: 56
        Quote: Karabanov
        and the current generation bent under amers.
        Czechs in 68 lie under the amers and sought.
      3. -2
        11 March 2015 08: 00
        What is the manifestation of the curvature of Jaromir?
        1. +5
          11 March 2015 08: 11
          Quote: Gleb
          What is the manifestation of the curvature of Jaromir?

          In Objectivity. He now apparently also considers himself and the Czech Republic free.
          1. -2
            11 March 2015 08: 19
            What did he say biased in this quote? What are you talking about?
            Is he sitting in prison today like his grandfather? Is he being shot today? What do you hang up your complexes on? It’s not even in your head that people don’t have to think like you, that people have a right to their choice. here you blame the man for what he did not say ... o_O
            1. +6
              11 March 2015 08: 48
              Quote: Gleb
              What biased did he say in this quote?

              Why did you turn up? 68th year he therefore remembers, like any Czech. And he talks about it in a tone of occupation. He does not like communists. Well, the real situation apparently suits him (not advice, so the Americans), and he does not make reservations on this subject.
              This is for the question of objectivity.
              1. +1
                April 11 2015 13: 25
                The occupation didn’t know anything \\\ ea if you take into account the factor of that \ in the 2nd World War, the Czechs supplied more than 4% of Branketank equipment for the Wehrmacht, and this leads to certain thoughts. By the way, their top bureaucrats spent their whole time in London looking up Churchill's mouth
            2. +5
              11 March 2015 12: 38
              Quote: Gleb
              people have the right to their choice


              This is called trolling, a small dirty trick - to put on a T-shirt, meaning what others think, and then say that it was not meant.

              Here is a Ukrainian journalist walking around with a picture and the word "dill" on a T-shirt, guess if he is for the DPR or rather for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or even unknowingly put on? or dude walks peacefully, but there is a swastika on his shirt! Of course, we can say that this sign actually existed in ancient India. Walk around in Syria or Iraq, areas controlled by ISIS fighters, with a cross on your T-shirt, or I-charlie. Signs on a T-shirt do not reflect people's feelings, do they ?!

              Yager himself said, judging by your post - "I do not wear a sweater with number 68 because I have a bad attitude towards Russians. No, I took number 68 because of my dislike of communists.

              The communists of those years and the Russians then are not two different peoples, but the same thing, the story is common. USSR - was a large communist country. Why does China hate the Yager, Vietnam, the DPRK? They are Communists too. Since it’s not Russian, it just doesn’t like communists. Trolling.

              According to this logic, I should also wear the number 86, then in Almaty they also brutally suppressed a peaceful demonstration of Kazakh students, unarmed, soldiers and police, mostly Russians by nationality, even attracted Pskov assault from Russia, beat and kicked, they let the sapper enter, it was many victims, already from other cities our buses started to go, they barely reassured us. Then collapse, then independence. In Russia, its own problem with Chechnya began, in Armenia with Azerbaijan, Karabakh. But why stir up the past ?! and Yager is a vindictive cynic. I compared the communists with the fascists of the 45th.
              1. -4
                11 March 2015 12: 46
                Well, the contingent on the site went)
              2. -2
                11 March 2015 13: 11
                By this logic, I also have to wear the number 86, then in Almaty they also brutally suppressed a peaceful demonstration of Kazakh students, unarmed
                But are you grieving or what? Why? Was this not done right? Was the party wrong then?
                who is to blame by the way for this? for you?
                The communists of those years and the Russians then are not two different peoples, but the same thing, the story is common. USSR - was a large communist country.
                By the way, why do you say people were beaten mainly by Russians? where were the Kazakhs? USSR - was a big communist country
                Kazakh Communists than what differed from the Russian Communists?
            3. +2
              11 March 2015 23: 00
              Is he sitting in prison today, like his grandfather? Is he being shot at today? What do you hang up your complexes on?

              Dear Gleb, it’s not necessary to be in prison to be NOT free, and what do you mean by freedom? You still tell us that there is democracy, that the people rule their country in general, foreign and domestic politics in particular, that there the main funds belong to the national elites !!!! You don’t have to have a big mind to understand and see who now runs the EU countries !!! Tell you? And about the complexes, I will tell you this, I was in the Czech Republic and Germany and the Netherlands and Belgium and in other countries in the neighborhood, it just so happened that I lived not only in hotels, but also with people - the conclusion: There it’s good to travel, to see, often, beautiful houses, but I don’t want to live there, everything is formalized, the entire communal room is very expensive, to wash you need to climb into the coffin (I’ll not call the other shower room) turn on the pump, turn on the water, wash quickly , saving water, all products that are prepared by hand (bread, etc.) are expensive, quality products, too, in short, this is not for our mentality! In fairness, I must say that there are also positive aspects - cleanliness (in Germany), in the afternoon a comparative order, I really liked the roads for 5 s +!
      4. +5
        11 March 2015 11: 34
        Karabanov
        Czechs don’t get used to, to plague, in that war, they bent so much that until April 1, they produced equipment for the Wehrmacht ..
        Correctly, as Dostoevsky said, about such Slavic brothers “sometimes worse than enemies ..
    2. +5
      11 March 2015 08: 08
      for some reason they all think that sucking the amerikosov is not zapadlo ... but to be friends with Russia is "not democratic"! and even better to humiliate Russia with all his might! and then they wonder why from time to time Russia subscribes to all of them luli ...
      1. 0
        11 March 2015 08: 21
        give at least one example where Jagr would offend Russia, would not like to be friends with Russia? where would he suck at the Americans?
        1. +13
          11 March 2015 08: 57
          the conversation is not for Jagr specifically, but for East European prostitute shepherds ... and Jagr for some reason doesn’t put on a T-shirt with number 38 in memory of how all Czechs (and Slavaks at the same time!) were betrayed and torn to pieces by the Nazis but 68 when they killed a few unbelievable hooligans - oooh! it is a tragedy and sadness for the Czech soul Jagr!
          and then makes a reservation: I’m not against the Russians, but against the Communists ...
          this is from the opera "let's equalize Stalin with Hitler" and Chamberlain and Deladier, who are the true warmongers, they are like and not in business!
          here too: the Russian Communists are to blame and the characters from the CIA, who are the true culprits of what happened, do not exist in nature ...
          1. +7
            11 March 2015 10: 26
            Moreover, I would like to add, then in 38 (in the days of the betrayal of the entire European world) it was the communists, i.e. The USSR offered military assistance to Czechoslovakia, which they rejected and as a result were bitten by their "good" neighbors and generally split into two states.
            1. +3
              11 March 2015 12: 21
              Yes, and in Czechoslovakia itself, it was mainly communists who fought against the Nazis, the rest worked for the Nazis in numerous Czechoslovak factories! and how they worked! the productivity at the factories of the "protectorate of the Czech Republic and Moravia" was higher than in Germany itself!
    3. +2
      11 March 2015 08: 54
      Quote: Gleb
      went into the world of another free Czech

      under the banners of the kagan, altman, weisberg and 50 more organizers of the "Prague spring"
    4. +5
      11 March 2015 10: 53
      I don’t understand the logic of some people:

      what is the difference between under whom to bend and under whom lies? under the Communists or under the Americans? why is life under the communists considered occupation, and life under the Americans considered freedom? I do not see the logic.

      PySy. I think sorry for the grandfathers of the dead and survivors, their work that freed Europe from the Nazis, the Germans had to be thrown out of the USSR and everything, to build a large wall, let the ungrateful Europeans live there under the fascists, boiling in their cauldron. It is interesting how many fascists would have burned in Auschwitz. Shameful this Yager.
      1. -1
        11 March 2015 11: 40
        the Germans had to be thrown out of the USSR’s borders and that’s all, to build a big wall, let them live there ungrateful Europeans live under the fascists, boiling in their boiler

        dude writes this on a site that is behind a German server bully
    5. +5
      11 March 2015 12: 32
      He doesn’t like the Communists, and hell with you, the Communists are not a quarter that everyone likes them. I don’t like the Czechs and saw them in his grave. Chekhs, professional slaves, worked like nice on the Reich and his grandfather probably worked and licked the boot of a German soldier.
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      1. -3
        11 March 2015 14: 52
        It is easy to be proud when you know that for you there will be practically nothing.
        even here you mean to knock his pride out of him by force? bang against the wall gentlemen. he speaks for his grandfather, he remembers his grandfather. and if you covered your mouth and would not talk about your parents at the first threat and if you for this "something happened", you are not men and not people-hypocrites.
        you are even afraid to write your name in Russian
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        2. +2
          11 March 2015 21: 27
          Quote: Gleb
          even here do you mean to knock pride out of him by force? hit the wall gentlemen. he says for his grandfather, he remembers his grandfather.


          This makes no sense... WHAT knock out of it (if NOTHING)? AND HOW? He knows very well that it is impossible to get it, and therefore he is a borzoi. Where is hisThe proud laughing grandfathers were in 1938 when they were put CANCER and they happily did it? The 1938 year was a moment of truth for the Czechs. And they obos.ra.is. It is a fact,
    7. +2
      11 March 2015 14: 42
      Quote: Gleb
      that his grandfather passed away as a free Czech in the spring of 68. "


      It is easy to be proud when you know that for you there will be practically nothing.
      So proud should have been Czech grandfathers in 1938 year, but alas, NOT ONE proud Czech was found, at least search with fire. They knew that the Germans would roll them out like a pancake, not bothering with "humanism and rights" and hid like a mouse under a broom.
      So the Jaromir is an arrogant conjunctural silly ...
      1. -6
        11 March 2015 15: 01
        he is a great athlete, and who are you? let's talk here and you will prove to everyone that you are a man and not a keyboard balabol? let's devote the evening to this and you will wipe your cowardice
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          +4
          11 March 2015 21: 04
          Sorry, Vitali Klitschko was also a "great athlete" until he started ... how to say ... "talk"
    8. +4
      11 March 2015 22: 52
      Oh, granddaughter! And where is the country of Czechoslovakia now? And who now commands the Czechs and Slovaks? Will not say?
  2. -16
    11 March 2015 05: 50
    The introduction of troops into Czechoslovakia is a huge mistake that left a bloody, and just plain ugly mark in our relations with the Czechs, which hinders and spoils these relations so far.
    Although in general Czechs continue to relate normally to Russians, they remember our victims for their lives in the war and look after the graves.
    Yes, and Russophobia is not very widespread in the Czech Republic, and all the Russophobes that are, forever remember the ill-fated '68 - no matter how many of them there were in the Czech Republic without this operation "Danube" (and I am sure of this that it would have been less)
    And what did it give us? Nothing. And 20 years later, the Warsaw Pact was dissolved. There is no influence, but the Czechs left the memory of Russian tanks in Prague (
    1. +12
      11 March 2015 06: 14
      The Czechs left an even more beautiful trace in 1938 when they raised their hands in front of the Germans and in 2008 when the Czechs were given and the city burned Tskhinval.
      1. +8
        11 March 2015 06: 51
        And back in 1919, when the Czechs whistled gold that did not belong to them, and with God's help (more precisely, with the help of the Bolsheviks), the precious metal was taken out of Russia.
        1. -10
          11 March 2015 09: 07
          so this is the problem of the Czechs and the redfins, for which the Czechs then received the Danube in full from the redfins. But what does Russian-Czech relations have to do with it?
          1. +1
            11 March 2015 11: 44
            veteran66
            66 year of birth? From the offspring of Vlasovites?
            Otherwise, such a comment cannot be appreciated.
            1. -2
              11 March 2015 12: 59
              you yourself are a Vlasovian! 63 year of birth firstly, and secondly, my grandfather died in September of the 41st. Think, then write!
              1. -3
                11 March 2015 13: 01
                he stubborn) generally called my grandfather an accomplice of the Nazis
              2. +2
                11 March 2015 18: 46
                veteran66
                "So this is the problem of the Czechs and the redfins, for which the Czechs later received the Danube in full from the redfins." - YOURS?
                And if it’s yours, what ... are you a grandfather hiding behind who fought in the Red Army, do you need to decipher the full name, or guess?

                Or are you a criminal in our country that you use the term "redfin", thinking that you have flashed your erudition here?
                Sometimes, some people should be silent than give out written comments showing complete limitation and disease, which has long been dubbed as LGM, common mankurtism, one hundred percent in this fraternity of sick people .. The brightest representative of such patients with a liberal understanding of the history of their country
                , reputed Nemtsov and still screeching, Makarevich, with akhezhakova.
        2. +4
          11 March 2015 10: 31
          By the way, yes! This gold played a significant role in the development of Czechoslovakia as a new state on the map of Europe between the great wars.
      2. -3
        11 March 2015 10: 01
        Quote: apro
        The Czechs left an even more beautiful mark in 1938 when they raised their hands in front of the Germans

        This is their own business. Does this concern you? Have you lost something from this? Deposits in banks, investments in the economy?
        Quote: apro
        and 2008, when Czech dans and cities burned Tskhinval.

        Russian AK, T-72, D-30, etc. also participated in this, will you tear your hair out?
    2. +4
      11 March 2015 07: 54
      "Of course. It was necessary back in 1968 to give Chekhov to the United States. Just think another country would be in NATO close to Russia. The Americans are kind and good. They have always wished and wish Russia well." - This is, of course, snide.
      But on the whole, I naturally understand that it was not the Czechs who organized the coup, but the same guys who later learned to make the Orange Revolution. And if Russia could, like the USSR once, come and disperse the Kiev Maidan, it would not be worse. IMHO
      1. -3
        11 March 2015 10: 11
        Quote: qwert
        But on the whole, I naturally understand that it was not the Czechs who organized the coup, but the same guys who later learned to make the Orange Revolution.

        Those. In your opinion, Alexander Dubcek, who lived 13 years in the USSR, joined in 1939. to the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia an accomplice of secret forces and not a Czech?
        Well, then you are right, in the HRC he was clearly taught to organize revolutions, and besides, he was a Slovak.
        1. +3
          11 March 2015 10: 34
          And M.S. Gorbachev when we joined the party and what career did you have by that time when he took up the collapse of the USSR?
    3. +2
      11 March 2015 11: 41
      Gans1234 (
      Like you, the main hamburger, Coca-Cola and Gorbachev in addition, this is your happiness.
      And what 1968 gave you is impossible to judge about this, because in you, it says, complete ignorance of both history itself and misunderstanding of the consequences, if the rebellion of 56 and 68 years had succeeded in the West at that time.
      People like you enthusiastically shouted hosanna Gorbachev, then Yeltsin, and now, in exactly the same way, yelling, Bravo Obama, America and the West in general.
      Even if you don’t explicitly talk about it, but it openly follows from your comments.
      And all your chatter, about allegedly anti-communism and the link with Russophobia, which supposedly is not, in fact, chatter is of pure water, not based on anything.
      An individual Czech, perhaps not a Russophobe, however, the country is pursuing a policy different, now it has only slightly recovered, together with the Hungarians, however, the monuments demolished in 90 are restrained.
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    5. +4
      11 March 2015 15: 03
      Quote: Gans1234
      The introduction of troops into Czechoslovakia is a huge mistake that left a bloody, and just plain ugly mark in our relations with the Czechs, which hinders and spoils these relations so far.


      This is the price of Czechs for not wanting to fight the Nazis in 1938-1945. They gave their country to the Nazis and drank morning coffee with croissants while the USSR was bleeding to fight the Nazis. And so the USSR HAD the right located on the territory of aggressor countries and their litterto prevent the new Drang nah Osten. He deserved it with his 27 million lives. And it worked — there was no war. And now, NATO-AGAIN at the borders of Russia and what will happen, no one knows ....
  3. +7
    11 March 2015 05: 57
    The Czechs as they were .... we remained, not wanting to defend our country, lay under the Germans before that they practically didn’t rebel under the Austrians, they perceived the release at 45 as a change of partner, they absolutely promised an independent country and began to speak at 68 but somehow their army didn’t fight in partisans, they didn’t give in to the death toll and hundreds weren’t taken, I think that NATO countries should have fought for them, but they obviously strongly doubted whether these were worth dying. The USSR did everything right in that situation stability and peace in Europe are more important than the opinions of these freedom-loving at the expense of others.
  4. +6
    11 March 2015 06: 53
    There is nothing to argue about. Time has put everything in its place. The Czechs must understand (but very likely do not understand) that the "Danube" operation did not allow this country to be drawn into a more dire situation (the current example is Ukraine and other conflicts). The experience of Germany in '47 and Hungary in '56 made it possible to extinguish the incipient coup without serious casualties. And they have never been slaves, all these are grandiloquent legends, but they are free to invent these legends for themselves, perhaps it is more interesting to live. "Unloved" communists did not spare their lives for the freedom of Czechoslovakia from the German occupation. Or maybe they were free then?
  5. +1
    11 March 2015 07: 55
    To the point, Vadim !!! The way it is. So it was.
  6. +5
    11 March 2015 08: 27
    The leadership of the USSR made the right political decision. Soviet troops entered Czechoslovakia not as conquerors, but as guarantors of peace, Respecting Czech traditions. And the brotherhood of arms was not an empty phrase. Health and success to all those who served in the Central Group of Forces!
    1. +3
      11 March 2015 20: 09
      278 Guards, Buy.
      By the way, in Ukraine, the participants in the "Danube" operation were equated with the Afghans.
      It’s hard for me, who has served there, to evaluate everything ...
      I served in the Central Army Museum, the foreman of a company in 68 entered the Czech Republic, after I was a tourist in Czechoslovakia ...
      I remember the old Czechs who came to the checkpoint to change cigarettes, because they cannot wean themselves from Russian tobacco after they fought as part of the Freedom Army, I remember the monument to our soldiers, where it was written on May 9 that American Yankees are better than Soviet invaders. ..
      I remember the German concentration camp for the Czechs (the pioneer camp is the word ches) ...
      All this is complicated. You won’t be able to decide in a hurry, but ...
      I know for sure that there are Russians - cattle and Czechs - good-natured people, but there are vice versa.
      Therefore: nationality - nothing to do with.
  7. +4
    11 March 2015 09: 26
    The article is great, a big plus.
  8. -1
    11 March 2015 10: 26
    Jagr is a cool guy, he wasn’t breaking and in Russia to play hockey. This is just a tribute to his grandfather. Never in his long career has he changed this number.
    There is nothing to do with politics
  9. 0
    11 March 2015 11: 24
    Historical events, like any human act, can manifest themselves after many years in different consequences, positively or negatively. One of the consequences of 1968 in Slovakia (I think, also in the Czech Republic and other state governments) that it will take advantage especially in the media in Slovakia as an ideological weapon against Russia and in support of NATO actions, they say the story may repeat: Russia may again invade Slovakia
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    2. +2
      11 March 2015 15: 16
      Quote: Slovak
      in Slovakia as an ideological weapon against Russia and in support of NATO actions, they say history may repeat itself: Russia may again invade Slovakia


      Slovakia is an aggressor country, ally of Nazi Germany and there Soviet troops could still be, by any law. At least so that again these same allies do not repeat the same as in 41. Or 41 is no longer considered, as if there was nothing? feel
      1. -1
        11 March 2015 21: 20
        Alexander,
        I am sorry that Slovakia in 41 was an ally of Germany in the attack against the CCCP and I don’t know anyone in Slovakia who would support it, although this war was accepted in Slovakia not as a war against the Soviet people, but only as a war against the communist government, which killed millions of its own citizens and led the Soviet people to impoverishment.
        But what about the Czech Republic, which in 41 was not an ally of Germany?
        But I must say that the CCCP was also not a very peaceful state. How many states did he attack? As an ally of which state did he attack Poland in the 39th?
        One could speak for a long time about the past from many sides, for example, that Slovakia’s fate in this war was under pressure from Germany or that Slovak troops were accepted as liberators in western Ukraine. The local population compared life before the 39th and after the 39th not in favor of CCCP. In other areas of CCCP, they were received without enthusiasm, but also without hostility.
        I think that the past should be evaluated according to its importance, not to underestimate or overestimate. Therefore, I do not consider it useful to pay too much attention to the 41st and 68th. A look at history from the point of view of historical grievances and collective guilt is a harmful road to damage human and state relations in the present and in the future.
        1. +1
          11 March 2015 22: 04
          Quote: Slovak
          this war was accepted in Slovakia not as a war against the Soviet people, but only as a war against the communist government, which killed millions of its own citizens and led the Soviet people to impoverishment.


          This one RAVE Are you not ashamed to write? That is, the Slovaks killed millions of Soviet citizens (who were supposedly killed by the communist authorities) to save them from impoverishment? This is beyond hypocrisy, this is some kind of cannibalism ...


          Quote: Slovak
          But what about the Czech Republic, which in 41 was not an ally of Germany?

          Czech Republic 41-go is a prostitute, voluntary and diligent Forge of German weapons. Once again, while the USSR was dying in battles, in occupation, from hunger, losing tens of millions of lives, the Czechs lived quietly, ate and farted well, studied, raised children, working for the Nazis and this bestiality IMHO.
          Quote: Slovak
          As an ally of which state did he attack Poland in 39?

          As an ally of himself. I returned ITS in 1939, recognized, by the way, as the Versailles winners in 1919. And NOBODY, even Poland, as well as France and England - did not condemn this, did not declare war in 1939read Churchill-even breathed a sigh of relief
          Slovaks (like the Germans, Austrians, Hungarians, Italians, Finns, Romanians, Bulgarians, Croats), after the killing of 27 million people in their country-USSR, IMHO, there is only one right - to ask for life from the descendants of these 27 millions, the rest of the rights they lost during the killings ....
          1. -3
            11 March 2015 23: 44
            Alexander,
            1. Who started the civil war with an armed coup in November 1917 and how many people died in its aftermath?
            2. How many people died in the camps, as special migrants or were shot by a check?
            3. How many people died during the famines of 1932-1933, 1946-1947?
            4. Why did many Soviet people wait for the Germans as liberators?
            5. "Czech Republic of 41st is a prostitute." Application of collective guilt.
            Most Czechs did not work in the military industry, and while they worked, this was not voluntary. It was an occupied country, thousands of people were shot.
            Ksati, Odessa residents worked in a large plant for the production of shells for the Germans, railway workers, too, hundreds of thousands of Soviet citizens fought on their side. And when the British were dying in the war against Germany, the USSR helped Germany with oil and other raw materials. What should I call it? Stalin could have prevented the war in 1941, but he did not want it. Is he or the Soviet people to blame?
            6. This was against the interests of the Soviet people, as the 41st clearly demonstrated.
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            2. +1
              12 March 2015 11: 53
              The first four questions have nothing to do with the question under discussion about Czechoslovakia. In addition to one aspect, as in 1914, she ran into Russia with weapons.
              Quote: Slovak
              Most Czechs did not work in the military industry and while they worked, it was not voluntary. It was an occupied country


              But absolutely ALL Czechs without a fight voluntarily surrendered to the Nazis, having a powerful army and covered themselves with shame. Thus, they lost the right to decide who should stand on its territory (even if they continue to endure) - this right was given to those who defended this right with arms in their hands. Czech weapons repeatedly strengthened the Nazi army and built Hitler’s muscles. Slovaks are generally AGGRESSORS. By the way, it is not too late to recover reparations from them and it is necessary that.
              Quote: Slovak
              Ksati, Odessa residents worked in a large plant for the production of shells for the Germans, railway workers too


              Tens of thousands of inhabitants of Odessa died during the fierce defense of Odessa, did not know? And when defending ALL of Czechoslovakia, how many, 0000?

              Quote: Slovak
              And when the British were dying in the war against Germany, the USSR helped Germany with oil and other raw materials. What should I call it? Stalin could have prevented the war in 1941, but he did not want it.

              Leave these nonsense agitation for intra-Slovak consumption. Who gave Germany’s billions of loans to build the war industry in the 30 years? Did she hatch herself? Who didn't want to notice these "sports planes and tractors and yachts" made by the Nazis? Who surrendered the Rhineland, Czechoslovakia, Abyssinia, Spain, and who, by the way, offered help against the aggressor and fought against him in 1937? The USSR offered many times to the West to create a system of collective security against the Nazis, but the West refused. And the USSR thought about itself, concluding same non-aggression pact, like France and England in 1937 34.
              However, convincing you is a futile undertaking.
              Slovaks went to "liberate" the people of the USSR from communism, while killing (with other Nazis) 27 million people (this FIVE Slovak!). And the USSR had the right to do everything in 1968, which he considered necessary so that this would not happen again. Punktum.
              1. -3
                12 March 2015 14: 04
                Alexander
                1. We touched on the importance of communist power for the behavior of Slovakia. Only the human lives that CCCP lost under communist rule, including the introduction of abortion, were not lost by its peoples in any war. In my opinion, if there had not been a revolution in Russia in 1917, now in Russia there would have been twice as many people.
                I spoke with Slovak soldiers who fought in the USSR. One told me that if the Germans treated the Slavs of the CCCP as Slovaks, they would have won the war. Another ideological communist, my former employee, I asked why I hadn’t fled to the Soviet side. He answered me that he was struck by the enormous misfortune of the civilian population.
                I recommend you read the book by I. Kopyl: Nyabyshynia. Vine, as the German occupation first lived in the Belarusian village.
                2. I agree that the leaders of the West did not do the right thing.
                3. The industry, which was later used for war, was also built in the USSR with the help of the West.
                4. Stalin also wanted war and is also responsible for the enormous losses of the peoples of Europe, including Slovakia and the USSR. At a meeting of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks on August 19, 1939, he said that the CCCP could conclude a mutual assistance agreement with France and Great Britain, and then the war would be averted. But war is beneficial in order for a revolutionary situation to arise in the West and the introduction of communist power there.
                Source: A. N. Gordienko: Joseph Stalin, Minsk, 1998, pp. 274-288. The author refers to the then Center for the Storage of Historical and Documentary Collections, the former Special Archive of the MTSP. F. 7. Op. 1. 1223. I think now it is the Military Historical Archive. Is that document also nonsense for domestic consumption?
                Unlike Vas, the action of Stalin and his entourage do not consider the action of the peoples of the USSR.
                5. An agreement was concluded between Slovakia and Russia that both parties have no financial claims against themselves from the past, for example. slave labor of the inhabitants of Slovakia in the MTSP after 1944 and the death of approximately 2500 of them. I consider this agreement to be correct.
                1. +2
                  13 March 2015 13: 17
                  [quote = Slovak]Stalin, too, wanted war and was also responsible for the enormous losses of the peoples of Europe, including Slovakia and the USSR. At a meeting of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks on August 19, 1939 said that the CCCP could conclude a mutual assistance agreement with France and Great Britain, and then the war would be averted. But war is beneficial in order for a revolutionary situation to arise in the West and the introduction of communist power there. [/ quote]

                  This RAVE long ago dispelled, and you all procrastinate:
                  Immediately, in a very crude form, this text was declared fake by Stalin himself on the pages of Pravda on November 30, November 1939: “This message from the Havas agency, like many of its other messages, is a lie. Of course, I can’t know in which particular cafe this fabrication was fabricated. ”3) In 1958, the German historian E. Jekkel did the same, who studied the history of the document in detail. In 2004 - Moscow historian S. Sluch in the article “The Speech of Stalin, which was not” .4)


                  The Geneva-based Havas correspondent A. Ruffen, who later claimed that he had obtained the text of Stalin’s speech (which is in full agreement with the agency’s initial information indicating that the text was received from Moscow via Geneva), said that the text was written by him from the words of a certain high-ranking official faces. Thus, even according to A. Ruffen, there can be no talk of a real transcript.

                  Currently, a detailed study of Igor Petrov is available regarding the possible ways of the appearance and distribution of this fake.

                  There are no arguments in favor of the authenticity of the text. Many things speak against the authenticity - and the presence in the "speech" of Stalin of Latinisms, which he has never been observed; and the fact that transcripts of speeches at Politburo meetings were conducted only in rare cases; and the fact that the meeting of the Politburo 19 August not at all negative
                  [quote = Slovak] In differences from Vas действие I do not consider Stalin and his entourage the action of the peoples of the USSR. [/quote]

                  Don't you understand the meaning of the word "action"?
                  ACTIONS and facts are:
                  -creation by England and France military german monster,
                  -encouraging the aggressor everywhere from the Anschluss to the Czech Republic, the creation of the AIS,
                  - the occupation of Europe in 39-41-m,
                  wild war with the USSR.
                  Result of these ACTION West-50 million victims, 27 million-Soviet citizens, and this not words, which were not there either.

                  [quote = Slovak]slave labor of the inhabitants of Slovakia in the MTSP after 1944 and the death of approximately 2500 of them. I think this contract is correct[/ Quote]
                  killed in the USSR 18 (!) Million only civilians, hundreds of thousands of houses destroyed, production, all. HOW can you compare ?!
                  It was Stalin's greatest mistake - forgiving Slovakia and Austria - for a good relationship - today they show their "gratitude". [Quote = Slovak] Alexander,
                  1. We started to mean Communist authorities for the behavior of Slovakia. Only the human lives that CCCP lost under communist rule, including the introduction of abortion, were not lost by its peoples in any war. In my opinion, if there had not been a revolution in Russia’s 1917, now in Russia there would have been twice as many people.
                  Bolshevik coup tragedy for Russia. But this is not the business of Slovakia.
                  1. -2
                    13 March 2015 23: 29
                    Alexander
                    1. Maybe this document is fake. But many facts are inexplicable from the point of view of the premise of the world plans of the USSR. For example, in October 1939, the leadership of the Communist Party of Slovakia received orders from the Comintern, according to which the Germans in Poland were called occupiers, who might end in a very short time, but the return of the Polish masters was excluded.
                    This was quite in the spirit of Lenin, who on August 28, 1915 wrote an article about the slogan of the United States of Europe, about the correctness of a military attack by a state with a communist government against states with a capitalist system. So he and his employees acted: Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia ..., so did Stalin: Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Bulgaria ... And why not Germany?
                    2. I mentioned communist power because I understood the behavior of Slovakia. Ksati, many Soviet citizens were also against this power. For example, one Ukrainian who lived the war in Crimea told me that, according to his estimation, at first two thirds of Crimeans supported the Germans. After the experience with the German authorities in 1944, only one third.
                    3. In the war against the USSR, about 1 Slovaks died in the struggle, about 000 on the side of the USSR. Well, now how do we evaluate history?
                    4. If we go into history, the history of Russia is very far from white. For example, already in the 10th century, Russians attacked Azerbaijan. Now what? Are we going to make an event of paramount importance from the distant past? This is a bad way, in the former Yugoslavia, the recollection of a civil war during the Second World War and in this connection the creation of an image of an enemy from other nations was probably the main reason for a new civil war in the 90s of the last century. Repeat the mistakes of others?
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          2. -1
            12 March 2015 01: 28
            Excuse me, the Bulgarians have to do with it? The USSR declared war on Bulgaria 08.09.1944 year and occupied without resistance. Bulgaria has never fought with the Russians.
            1. +1
              12 March 2015 11: 13
              Quote: Jmbg
              Excuse me, the Bulgarians have to do with it? The USSR declared war on Bulgaria 08.09.1944 year and occupied without resistance. Bulgaria has never fought with the Russians.


              Bulgaria participated in the occupation of Yugoslavia and Greece, thereby freeing several German divisions for war on the Eastern Front.
            2. +1
              12 March 2015 11: 13
              Quote: Jmbg
              Excuse me, the Bulgarians have to do with it? The USSR declared war on Bulgaria 08.09.1944 year and occupied without resistance. Bulgaria has never fought with the Russians.


              Bulgaria participated in the occupation of Yugoslavia and Greece, thereby freeing several German divisions for war on the Eastern Front.
              1. -1
                14 March 2015 01: 43
                At a time when the USSR was also a friend of Germany? Bulgaria occupied only those territories in which the Bulgarian population was beaten.
                1. +1
                  14 March 2015 13: 53
                  Please
                  1. How many people lived in the annexed Thrace and Macedonia, and what was its national composition?
                  2. Why was South Macedonia and the territory under Maritsa not connected to Bulgaria?
  10. +1
    11 March 2015 11: 36
    In that situation, the entry of troops into Czechoslovakia was justified. Only unlike Hungary in '56, there were no military operations as such in Czechoslovakia. There were separate provocations and more. Therefore, the promise of recognition of the participants in the Czechoslovak events as participants in the hostilities is not justified.
  11. +1
    11 March 2015 12: 00
    Few Czechoslovakians in 1968 poured. It was necessary more.
    Thanks for the article.
    PS: something a lot of Democrats ran into the comments. And this is good. You need to know a possible fifth column.
    1. -3
      11 March 2015 15: 09
      Who are you talking about? For those who participated there? Well, you have the opportunity today to pour out scoundrels. In the Caucasus, there is no end in work, in Ukraine ... you don’t have to go any further. Get up and pour balabol, and then you can say a word for what to do.
      sitting drone at the clave and discusses strategic decisions
      1. +3
        11 March 2015 15: 45
        I’d be glad, but health unsuitable for the army.
        I speak for those Russians, including my grandfathers, who fought in the Great Patriotic War against the Germans, who came to my land using equipment made by Czechoslovakians. Got it?
        1. -2
          11 March 2015 15: 59
          and what about health? no hands? no legs? then maybe you shouldn’t speak at all if you didn’t fight at all? especially for grandfathers who beat the Germans without complaining of flat feet and other serious illnesses.
          today you are beaten through the internet that was created in the west, through the computer that was created in the west, through videos and video hosting services that were created in the west, through the website that uses western technology ...
          Well, in all fairness, break the monitor and turn off the Internet, television ... after all, this is largely created in the West. and the "enlightened" minds on the site will tell you that most of the Runet sites and video channels are in the hands of Americans and Jewish enemies of Russia. -Thanks to which television lives and this site, for example, are Jewish tricks. Do we see what they advertise?
          got it
          1. +3
            11 March 2015 16: 31
            Bad for sight.
            Gleb, don’t translate your anti-Semitic views on me, okay? And don't jump from topic to topic, okay?
            1. -2
              11 March 2015 16: 36
              Am I already anti-Semite?)) I answer to all the people, I will provide all kinds of assistance with money, connections ... if you go to defend Novorossia. the glasses are there for you, treatment, something else ... I’ll teach you how to put a grenade into a fighting position and explode along with the enemy. is it all possible to do blindly. on the subject of me?
              but what did you think? someone will produce the world for you? do you want to sit out? no ... you have a real chance to take dozens of dill to the next world. isn’t it worth it? for the sake of truth and the fight against evil?
              1. +1
                11 March 2015 17: 10
                My fight is more important on the information front - more good
  12. +3
    11 March 2015 16: 13
    Quote: Gleb
    Well, the contingent on the site went)

    And what is your contingent better than others, for example, I remember who V. Tikhonov, V. Petrov, V. Kharlamov, B. Mikhailov, V. Zhluktov, A. Maltsev are, but Yagrom, nhl, and generally Canadian, and even more so Czech I was not interested, so the opinion of Jagr and his nothing, dust. And 1968 is a test of spring, an example of Iraq, Syria, Yugoslavia, now Ukraine. So citing all svidomo sin to the motherland.
    1. +1
      11 March 2015 16: 37
      In vain you are not interested in hockey from other countries. France is now becoming a hockey power.
      And by the way, have you heard about the event that happened a few days ago in modern Belarus?
    2. -1
      11 March 2015 16: 46
      the man says that he knows Kharlamov, Tikhonov ... but was not interested in Canadian hockey! Czech ... laughing you my friend glor)
      you listen to what Tarasov, Petrov, Mikhailov, Tretyak talked about Canadians and Czechs ... what they say about Yagra ... you’ll be ashamed. they never allowed themselves to talk like that about great players, even about Canadians during the Cold War
  13. +5
    11 March 2015 16: 44
    This operation gave us another 20 years of peace and tranquility.
  14. Dudu
    0
    11 March 2015 19: 35
    The article is frail, only taldychit about the views of the liberals and their revenge. It was necessary to dig deeper.
    The operation took place not in two days, but in two months. Under the guise of different workers on the road, repair crews at nodal points throughout Czechoslovakia were deployed from special forces. Many units were concentrated along the borders into field camps and under the guise of exercises. And then on command from all four sides and from the sky all of a sudden all borders, and especially the Austrian border, were closed in one night. Whirlwinds woke up - and there is another power on the street, and screams are not screams, and the GDR soldier shoots without warning.
    Paganism was thoroughly prepared there. The trade union committees of enterprises and institutions installed the latest printing devices, mounted radio nodes and brainwashing was dense. And most importantly, surprisingly little is written about this, the basis of propaganda was massively Judaic.
    With this always begins liberalism.
  15. +2
    11 March 2015 19: 40
    Quote: Gleb
    the man says that he knows Kharlamov, Tikhonov ... but was not interested in Canadian hockey! Czech ... laughing you my friend glor)
    you listen to what Tarasov, Petrov, Mikhailov, Tretyak talked about Canadians and Czechs ... what they say about Yagra ... you’ll be ashamed. they never allowed themselves to talk like that about great players, even about Canadians during the Cold War

    I didn’t insult anyone, that’s exactly what I mean, why the Tretyak did not take number 18, and did not tell how he hates the white whales, but he has nothing wrong with the Czech Republic. So it’s you my friend Glor)
  16. +2
    11 March 2015 23: 39
    Quote: Gleb
    What did he say biased in this quote? What are you talking about?
    Is he sitting in prison today like his grandfather? Is he being shot today? What do you hang up your complexes on? It’s not even in your head that people don’t have to think like you, that people have a right to their choice. here you blame the man for what he did not say ... o_O

    In 1933 the Germans, in 1938 the Czechs also made their choice, how did it end?
  17. +1
    12 March 2015 10: 37
    The USSR did the right thing by not letting the external enemy in the form of the VSA and they sang along to pull Czechoslovakia out of the SVD (Warsaw Pact). Everything was done competently, then there was a strong leadership that could answer not in word, but in deed! "Yes, there were people in our time, not like the present tribe!"