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Kamnemet "Hatsatsit" (Israel)

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The power structures of various countries from time to time have to contend with riots. To prevent such phenomena, various special equipment and equipment are used. A vivid example of the latter is the so-called. police water cannons: water guns of sufficient power, mounted on a self-propelled chassis and connected to a large-capacity tank. However, in stories Special equipment there are other projects of machines of similar purpose, characterized by great originality and non-standard approach to solving the task. One of the most interesting types of special equipment for quelling riots was the Israeli Hazacit machine.



In December, the so-called 1987 began. The first Palestinian intifada, which lasted until the fall of the 93. This conflict is often called the War of the Stones, because in the first clashes in the direction of the Israelis the cobblestones often flew. The Israel Defense Forces, which had to take such attacks, needed funds to disperse the protesters. This required a system of non-lethal actions, which at that time Israel was absent. Shortly after the start of the clashes, the idea of ​​a new “police” vehicle of this class appeared, which could become a truly symmetrical response to the existing threats.

According to some reports, the project of a new means of quelling riots was created by Rafael, now known for its developments in the field of rocket weapons and unmanned vehicles. The new system for non-lethal impact on the enemy has received the name, fully revealing its essence, - “Hatsatsit”, which can be translated from Hebrew as “Crushed Stone” or “Shchebnemet”. The authors of the project decided that the best response to the stones and slingshots of the Palestinians would be a powerful throwing machine firing similar "ammunition."

It is known that the system "Hatsatsit" was made in the form of a set of units that could be installed on any suitable platform. There were kamnemety on the basis of light army vehicles, semi-tracked armored personnel carriers, etc. Even a modification of the system for installation on helicopters was being developed. The most widespread in recent years have received photographs of the system "Hatsatsit" on the basis of a modified American-made M3 armored personnel carrier. Consider exactly this version of the machine for quelling riots.



To install the units "Hatsatsit" did not need any major modifications to the design of the base machine. On the stern of the troop compartment placed a superstructure in the form of a frame with glazing. She had to protect the calculation from the stones flying behind, side and top. Naturally, the possibility of damage to the glass was not ruled out, but it was an acceptable price to pay for maintaining the health of people. In the center of the troop compartment, on its floor, installed a stone thrower, which was the main weapons cars. Along the sides there were racks for storing stone "ammunition".

In developing the stone-thrower, no unusual or non-standard solutions were used. The idea and general construction of this system was borrowed from conventional agricultural fertilizer spreaders. A casing of a semicircular shape was installed on a swivel base, inside which the impeller was placed. On one side of her was an electric motor. Next to the casing of the impeller there was a gravel supply hopper. In the existing photos, it is clear that, in order to avoid damage to the stone-thrower aggregates, protective rods were provided in the bunker to retain excessively large objects and ensure the safety of the calculation. In the upper part of the impeller casing, a rectangular nozzle was attached, designed to emit throwing stones. To protect the calculation on the “barrel” of a stone-thrower there was an additional glazing.

At the sides of the troop compartment of the base armored troop-carrier, racks were provided for storing the stock of gravel. The sample depicted in the existing photos could carry up to 36 containers with several kilograms of stones each. It should be noted, the size of the "ammunition" system "Hatsatsit" primarily depended on the type of the base chassis. Thus, the half-tracked armored personnel carrier could take on more containers than army passenger cars.

Kamnemet "Hatsatsit" (Israel)


The principle of operation of the system "Hatsatsit" was extremely simple. The calculation, consisting of three people (the driver and two kamnemetchetchik), had to take the car to the position, start the stone thrower motor, turn it in the direction of the target and pour gravel into the receiving bin. Small stones through the receiving bunker fell on the impeller, accelerated and flew out of the socket at a fairly high speed. Such a weapon did not differ in high accuracy, however, it allowed to “sow” a sufficiently large area with stones, which was convenient for dispersing a raging crowd.

The need to create a non-lethal system affected the power of the engine used. The impeller rotational speeds were enough to “shoot” at a range of no more than 50-100 m. However, even at maximum ranges, small pebbles had the necessary effect on the rioters, causing them injuries of varying severity.

As already mentioned, several copies of the Hatsatsit system were built on the basis of various platforms. The exact amount of such a technique is unknown. There are references to at least three or four samples, which at approximately the same time were located at different bases of the Israeli army. More accurate information is missing.

Hazacite kamnemety has been used for some time to counteract riots, but by the mid-nineties they were decommissioned. One of the main reasons for this was the low efficiency of the system when “shooting” over long distances. At maximum distances, the speed of rubble was insufficient to have a tangible impact on humans. At the same time, however, at distances of no more than a few tens of meters, pebbles could inflict quite serious wounds. Thus, the Palestinians tried to stay away from self-propelled kamnemetov, and the Israeli military did not risk approaching the effective range of "shooting."

Later, another version of a kamnemete appeared to disperse the protesters, designed for installation on helicopters. On the sides or pylons of rotary-wing machines, it was proposed to mount tanks of the required capacity, inside of which it was necessary to fill up rubble. Ejection of stones was carried out using a remote-controlled device. This version of the stone-thrower did not need any impellers and motors, since the “ammunition” had to develop the necessary speed only by means of gravity.

According to some reports, the helicopter version of the stone-thrower was tested and even used several times in practice. However, this system was not widespread due to its low efficiency.

For several years, Israeli specialists have built a certain number of Hazatz self-propelled kamnemetov based on different chassis. Until a certain time, this technique was used for its intended purpose, but was later abandoned. The specific characteristics of the stone-thrower, as well as the change in the nature of the collisions, did not allow these machines to be operated even with the same low success. A certain number of Hatsatsit cars in various versions has been preserved to this day and is located at different bases of the Israel Defense Forces.


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  1. corporal
    corporal 10 March 2015 07: 01
    +2
    It is strange that the Israelites turned to rubble. EMNIP around those years were created samples, throwing rubber balls by means of two rotating discs with different angular velocity. Now I don't remember exactly, but it seems that this system was described in some issue of the Foreign Military Review.
    Moreover, it was indicated that it is possible to conduct targeted shooting just by changing the speed of rotation of these disks.
    1. Mooh
      Mooh 10 March 2015 09: 46
      +18
      So Jews designed! Balls of money cost, but there are still stones in bulk in the desert. laughing
      1. bekjan
        bekjan 10 March 2015 16: 39
        +3
        The maximum result at the lowest cost. Very reasonable approach.
        1. Bugor
          Bugor 10 March 2015 19: 21
          +3
          Could then make a shit. Finally free ammunition.
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 11 March 2015 08: 51
            +1
            lol
            Could then make a shit.
            lol the ammunition for it is not free, it is fertilizer for the kibbutzev. And the sewer system could be "optimized", provided that there are a lot of "kalomets" and they stand along the border, shoot Palestinians and Arabs who are approaching.
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 10 March 2015 20: 25
        +4
        Quote: MooH
        Balls of money cost, but there are still stones in bulk in the desert.

        A very wise decision! Why do something if it is lying under your feet, and there will be no complaints from the victims - he is not a stone, where he came from, God knows him ... request
    2. 1234567890
      1234567890 10 March 2015 21: 34
      +1
      Quote: Corporal
      samples throwing rubber balls by means of two rotating disks with different angular speeds.


      I also remember something like that. In my opinion - this is the development of South Africa during apartheid.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 11 March 2015 08: 54
        -5
        I also remember something like that. In my opinion - this is the development of South Africa during apartheid.
        -just the development of the sons of Israel is similar to the development of South Africa since apartheid, just like the domestic policy of South Africa (apartheid) is similar to the domestic policy of Israel now.
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 11 March 2015 08: 59
          -1
          There is no particular ingenuity here. Or have you forgotten that there is no water in Israel? That the plants in the kibbutzim are watered under the spine not from ingenious economy and incredible, unattainable for other knowledge, but because of the ELEMENTARY WATER LACK in Israel, in its reservoir, lake Kineret.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 12 March 2015 00: 09
            +2
            Quote: mirag2
            clear, unattainable for other knowledge, but because of the ELEMENTARY LACK of WATER in Israel, in its reservoir, Lake Kinneret.

            Nevertheless, water savings in Israel in the Jewish sector are ten times higher than in the PA
  2. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 10 March 2015 07: 03
    +3
    However, the action organizes the reaction ... If in the previous intifada used
    pebbles and rubber bullets; later on, landmines and shaitan belts were launched, and
    gunshot ... Progress is evident!
    And the machine is funny!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 10 March 2015 20: 27
      +2
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      However, the action organizes a reaction

      The stone-thrower was precisely the opposition!
  3. bmv04636
    bmv04636 10 March 2015 07: 23
    +7
    Euro collective farmers do not approve of such machines laughing
    and so the principle is clear an eye for an eye like you are stoning us and we, too, really are many times stronger and more painful and cunning.
  4. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 10 March 2015 07: 44
    0
    And the cars parked in the area of ​​this stone-thrower will get exactly, as well as the windows of the buildings. And a person can take a shield for protection.
  5. builder
    builder 10 March 2015 08: 04
    +1
    Cheap and angry
  6. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 10 March 2015 09: 11
    +6
    Great article, the first time I hear about such a miracle. good
    1. bekjan
      bekjan 10 March 2015 16: 41
      +1
      Jews are great inventors.
  7. Sma11
    Sma11 10 March 2015 09: 24
    +10
    Memoirs in / an employee of the army of Israel hi .
    So, it was in the eighties, during the first intifada. Simply put, the Palestinians massively kicked out into the street and started throwing stones at the Israelis. Both manually and with the help of slings and slingshots.
    Normal police such stone throwers accelerates how? That's right - with rubber bullets, a teardrop and water cannons. But our army took up the matter. And a certain sage decided that, since the water cannons are not in service with the army, we need to build our original Israeli super-duper crowd dispersal.
    And the one who was entrusted with designing this thing, either didn’t smoke something, or he was once lit up with a stone, and he was deeply offended ... In short, the roof of this crazy genius was lucky, and he decided: oh, you’re from slingshots shoot? So we will answer you with our super slider!
    So Hatsatsit was born. Imagine a funnel from which crushed stone flows. And opposite to the falling stream there is a drop-dead fan, which flies past a gravel with wild force at the target. Well, there was also a guide chute. Look, envy: the miracle of high technology, self-propelled automatic super-slingshot. David's sling in the style of cyberpunk.
    What our great constructor did not take into account was the destructive effect of his crap. Because, of course, the Hatsatsit crowd scattered the crowd with lightning speed, but a very large percentage of people were left there and remained lying, with fractures and bruises. So if you disperse it, then it really abruptly mutilated people, and if you kill it, then a machine gun is both cheaper and more efficient. Therefore, after the first time or two, when super-slingshots were used in practice, the army was horrified and out of sin sent them to the warehouse ...

    (http://noperapon.livejournal.com/10522.html)
  8. sevtrash
    sevtrash 10 March 2015 09: 31
    +5
    An interesting option. If Yanukovych wrote a couple of these machines to himself, maybe the situation in the world would have looked different.
    1. maxbaxg61
      maxbaxg61 10 March 2015 12: 32
      +2
      It could have been easier to make a firefighter take water and put out the crowd smile it would be just cold outside and here you have rain from the sky
  9. round
    round 10 March 2015 12: 45
    +2
    would long ago have invented "shit" to disperse demonstrations and Maidans.
    1. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 10 March 2015 13: 44
      +3
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=898097

      The soldier fills the container with waste immediately or in two stages. After the container is full, it is reliably closed with a lid from above, "- quotes the text of the patent" Interfax. "Then the shell obtained from the waste of the driver and other crew members is fired towards the enemy.
      The author of the project insists that such a technology will solve at least two problems: it will allow to utilize excrement and at the same time reduce the morale of the enemy.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 10 March 2015 20: 31
      +6
      Quote: round
      would long ago have invented "shitty"

      Biological weapons were banned on the basis of a document that entered into force on March 26 of 1975. laughing
  10. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 10 March 2015 15: 10
    0
    An interesting and unusual unit. A kind of modern version of the sling ...
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 10 March 2015 16: 09
      +1
      So, fearless Palestinians (many of them ordinary children), without body armor with only stones in their hands, throw themselves at Israeli tanks.

      And not very brave Jews, because of the armor of the armored personnel carrier "shoot" them - also with stones smile Honestly, funny.
      But you can immediately see who is the real hero, and who, to put it mildly, "somewhat cowardly."
      1. builder
        builder 10 March 2015 20: 17
        +6
        Objectively speaking, this is how fearless Palestinians send children with stones in their hands to Israeli tanks (for the sake of a spectacular photo about the atrocities of the Israeli military)
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 10 March 2015 21: 01
          -7
          Quote: stroitel
          Objectively speaking, this is how fearless Palestinians send children with stones in their hands to Israeli tanks (for the sake of a spectacular photo about the atrocities of the Israeli military)

          But it is simply not possible to realize that these children are real patriots who, as they can, are fighting against the Israeli occupation forces. For their mothers, fathers, feeble grandfathers and grandmothers, protecting as much as they can the land which rightfully belongs to them and is only temporarily captured by ruthless aggressors.
          I think that you would not be proud of your son, who would be scared and run away leaving you with your family when a disaster came to your house.
          They fight the aggressors' armored vehicles with what they have, but they only have stones and they perform a real feat by throwing them at the cruel invaders sitting behind the armor, armed to the teeth, who at any moment can open fire on them and kill many of them.
          1. Sma11
            Sma11 10 March 2015 21: 28
            +6
            But it is simply not possible to realize that these children are real patriots who, as they can, are fighting against the Israeli occupation forces. For their mothers, fathers, feeble grandfathers and grandmothers, protecting as much as they can the land which rightfully belongs to them and is only temporarily captured by ruthless aggressors.

            Wow! How much pathos! I have seen such kids on the roads of Afghanistan and Chechnya. They also fought "with the armored vehicles of the aggressors with what they have." And there is also such an interesting organization as the "Khmer Rouge", even those fighters.
            1. builder
              builder 10 March 2015 21: 34
              +1
              Khmer Rouge is a completely different phenomenon. More vile.
            2. padded jacket
              padded jacket 10 March 2015 21: 49
              -4
              Quote: Sma11
              I have seen such children on the roads of Afghanistan and Chechnya.

              What could you see, another "dreamer" lol
              1. builder
                builder 10 March 2015 21: 54
                +2
                Dear Vatnik, I am embarrassed to ask, did you yourself serve in the Army?
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 10 March 2015 22: 15
                  -3
                  Quote: stroitel
                  Dear Vatnik, I am embarrassed to ask, did you yourself serve in the Army?

                  Do not be shy, you are not a child and not a young girl, boldly and "openly" ask - did you serve a quilted jacket?
                  And I will also "openly" tell you - yes I served.
                  1. builder
                    builder 10 March 2015 22: 39
                    +2
                    Costs of barbaric education (appeal to you)
                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 10 March 2015 22: 46
                      0
                      Quote: stroitel
                      Costs of barbaric education (appeal to you)

                      Come on no offense.
                      So just more convenient.
                      1. builder
                        builder 10 March 2015 22: 52
                        +1
                        Now to you on "you" hi
              2. Sma11
                Sma11 10 March 2015 23: 14
                +3
                What could you see, another "dreamer"

                You are absolutely right, Dear. At first I "fantasized" in the 88th behind the river from KSAPO, and then in the Caucasus. And so I am the "Great Dreamer". There are even badges wassat
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 10 March 2015 23: 22
                  -2
                  Quote: Sma11

                  You are absolutely right, Dear. At first I "fantasized" in the 88th behind the river from KSAPO, and then in the Caucasus. And so I am the "Great Dreamer". There are even badges wassat

                  Again on YOU. No need can be safely on you.
                  You see, we are on the Internet and I won’t go to see if this icon is there or not.
                  And you can say (write) anything, the computer screen, it will endure everything, it is "iron".
                  Therefore, I always treat with great caution those who "brag" about their merits, knowledge, capabilities, and so on in the network.
                  1. Sma11
                    Sma11 10 March 2015 23: 52
                    +5
                    Again on YOU.

                    But what, does it bother you? Do not like politeness, dear? Can I talk about this?
                    I am not making excuses for Jews or Arabs. Each has its own truth. And who is more truthful is not for us to decide. Simply ostentatious "revolutionism" with which they are worn, as with "fetish" looks too vulgar.
                    Therefore, I always treat with great caution those who "brag" about their merits, knowledge, capabilities, and so on in the network

                    I have the same opinion. Only one thing but. I do not boast. What was, was. But I am not ashamed and do not repent.
                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 11 March 2015 00: 07
                      -3
                      Quote: Sma11
                      But what, does it bother you? Do not like politeness, dear? Can I talk about this?

                      You’re just like our doctor, a dentist in a dental clinic Lev Borisovich smile
                      He says exactly the same words - Like your teeth, we can talk about their well-being lol
                      I do not boast. What was, was. But I am not ashamed and do not repent.

                      You see here a small difference between us in this regard, I saw the same something in my "life" but I don't tell anyone about it.
                      1. Sma11
                        Sma11 11 March 2015 08: 42
                        +4
                        I saw the same thing in my "lifetime" but I don't tell anyone about it.

                        If you, dear, saw something in "your lifetime", then you would not yell with pathos
                        They fight the aggressors' armored vehicles with what they have, but they only have stones and they perform a real feat by throwing them at the cruel invaders sitting behind the armor, armed to the teeth, who at any moment can open fire on them and kill many of them.

                        Because these fun sometimes end with the death of "rascals" and not from their "heroism", but from stupidity. And picking the guts out of the tracks is not a very pleasant occupation.
                      2. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 12 March 2015 19: 59
                        -1
                        Quote: Sma11
                        If you, dear, saw something in "your lifetime", then you would not yell with pathos

                        You will scream:
                        I have seen these kids on the roads of Afghanistan and Chechnya. They also fought "with the armored vehicles of the aggressors with what they have." And there is also such an interesting organization as the "Khmer Rouge", even those fighters.

                        Dreamer you are the next. Afghanistan, he saw Chechnya, do not make people laugh.
                2. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 12 March 2015 20: 01
                  -1
                  Quote: Sma11
                  Respected. At first I "fantasized" in the 88th behind the river from KSAPO, and then in the Caucasus. And so I am the "Great Dreamer". There are even badges

                  And what in Israel even sell such badges?
            3. padded jacket
              padded jacket 10 March 2015 22: 03
              -1
              Sma11
              Wow! How much pathos! I have seen such kids on the roads of Afghanistan and Chechnya. They also fought "with the armored vehicles of the aggressors with what they have." And there is also such an interesting organization as the "Khmer Rouge", even those fighters.

              By the way, how do you like this video, where Jewish soldiers as "women" hide behind children? Palestinian children.
              Tell me more that they are "honest and noble" warriors of good.

              They put the teenager forward and shot themselves from behind him.
              They are definitely invaders and ruthless "monsters". The Nuremberg Tribunal cries for them, it's a pity they liquidated it.
          2. builder
            builder 10 March 2015 21: 31
            +7
            They had a chance. CHANCE with a capital letter. Modern weapons, which they covered with the greatest shame, quantitative superiority ... how could everything be ... lost. And all these photographs are from the UNDERGED series.
            I can’t understand one thing, are you trolling so, or is this your sincere position.
            1. builder
              builder 10 March 2015 21: 36
              0
              In vain, by the way, put a padded jacket minus.
            2. padded jacket
              padded jacket 10 March 2015 21: 52
              -3
              These are Palestinian children; they had neither weapons nor quantitative superiority.
              By the way, who are you talking to, is it not entirely clear?
              I can’t understand one thing, are you trolling so, or is this your sincere position.
              1. builder
                builder 10 March 2015 22: 02
                +3
                To you, dear.
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 10 March 2015 22: 10
                  -4
                  builder

                  To you, dear.

                  The fact that a territorial entity called Israel occupied the lands of Palestine and brutally destroys its population is my sincere position.
                  And you do not need "respected", etc., so address the local Israelis. If you want, of course.
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 10 March 2015 22: 15
                    +3
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    The fact that a territorial entity called Israel occupied the lands of Palestine and brutally destroys its population is my sincere position.

                    I have never been a supporter of the state of Israel ... But the fact that they lived there for more than two thousand years is a historical fact. But the fact that after the Second World War another question came here request
                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 10 March 2015 22: 24
                      -3
                      Maybe they lived, or maybe not. Who knows the time is long gone and there is no way to prove something.
                      Media: Israeli spies fake Egyptian history
                      Israel secretly penetrates foreign archaeological groups in Egypt in order to falsify Egyptian history and to prove that the Jews built the pyramids. This was stated by Egyptian researcher Amir Gamal in an interview with the local newspaper Elaph.
                      http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti/2014/09/10/smi--izrailskie-shpioni-falsific
                      iruyut-istoriyu-egipta /
                      Although maybe they really built them as slaves.
                      But the Jewish people were enslaved by the pharaohs.
                      1. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 10 March 2015 23: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Israel secretly infiltrates foreign archaeological groups in Egypt in order to falsify Egyptian history and to prove that the Jews built the pyramids

                        laughing Since when did Jews love physical labor
                    2. builder
                      builder 10 March 2015 22: 32
                      +3
                      We have what we have - the state of Israel and the occupied territories. Several generations of Jews were born on the territory of the state of Israel. They live in the reality in which they live. And the name of this reality is war. In the event of the defeat of Israel, all Jews in this territory will be exterminated, including infants ... padded jacket, your predictions, what will happen if the Arabs defeat tomorrow - will we ignore the massacre on a national basis?
                      1. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 March 2015 22: 38
                        +2
                        Quote: stroitel
                        We have what we have -

                        Quote: stroitel
                        In the event of the defeat of Israel, all Jews in this territory will be exterminated, including infants ....

                        Quote: stroitel
                        what will happen if Arabs win tomorrow -

                        Yes, not a damn thing. Just Jews have to deliver pizza on Saturdays. Do not confuse Arabs with ISIS.
                      2. builder
                        builder 10 March 2015 22: 44
                        +3
                        There will be a big massacre ..... will not give them a chance to deliver pet
                      3. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 March 2015 23: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        will not give them a chance to deliver pet

                        Hasidim will not use them request
                      4. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 10 March 2015 22: 44
                        -2
                        Quote: stroitel
                        We have what we have - the state of Israel and the occupied territories. Several generations of Jews were born on the territory of the state of Israel. They live in the reality in which they live. And the name of this reality is war.

                        Let them return the occupied land to the Palestinians, and on the rest of the land allocated to them, they multiply in any quantity they need.
                        In the event of the defeat of Israel, all Jews in this territory will be exterminated, including infants.

                        What kind of nonsense?
                        your forecasts, what will happen if the Arabs win tomorrow - will we dismiss the massacre on a national basis?

                        That there was no massacre and other excesses it was necessary to establish a relationship with them - just yesterday.
                        Instead of bombing and destroying them and keeping them in reserves behind the fence - like animals in a cage.
                      5. builder
                        builder 10 March 2015 22: 50
                        +2
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        That there was no massacre and other excesses it was necessary to establish a relationship with them - just yesterday.
                        Instead of bombing and destroying them and keeping them in reserves behind the fence - like animals in a cage.

                        What to do today? I would like to hear your opinion on the resolution of this problem.
                      6. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 10 March 2015 23: 01
                        -3
                        builder
                        What to do today? I would like to hear your opinion on the resolution of this problem.

                        For starters, at least stop capturing more and more Palestinian territories.
                        And the Jews (by the way, are you from Israel?) Continue to build and seize more and more lands belonging to the Arabs, even more "inciting" self-hatred.
                        So it’s their own fault that they hate them.
                      7. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 10 March 2015 23: 14
                        -1
                        builder
                        In the event of the defeat of Israel, all Jews in this territory will be exterminated, including infants ....

                        By the way on this topic. So far, it is Israeli punishers who kill and distort the childhood of the small inhabitants of Palestine.
                      8. builder
                        builder 10 March 2015 23: 20
                        +3
                        No, I'm not from Israel. St. Petersburg - Russian.
                        For starters, at least stop capturing more and more Palestinian territories.
                        To be honest, I’m not aware of the facts of the seizure of new territories.
                        There is mutual hatred there .... and, as I understand it, a narrow layer of people on both sides.
                        I am not a supporter of the ideas of Zionism (moreover, Israel has always ranked the fathers of the founders of the state as a terrorist (which I wrote about on this site more than once), but I don’t like it when ethnic events are evaluated.
                      9. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 10 March 2015 23: 29
                        -4
                        Quote: stroitel
                        There is mutual hatred there .... and, as I understand it, a narrow layer of people on both sides.

                        There has long been mutual hatred, not only in a small layer. There hatred between nationalities and Jews exacerbate it and exacerbate it. It seems that they are doing it on purpose (most likely it is).
                        I am not a supporter of the ideas of Zionism (moreover, the fathers of the founders of the state of Israel have always ranked them as terrorists (which I wrote about on this site several times).

                        Unfortunately for some reason I missed these comments.
                      10. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 March 2015 23: 42
                        +2
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        There hatred between nationalities and Jews exacerbate it and exacerbate it.

                        Wrote in another post but not deployed request orthodoxy is very muddy there, if we recognize the Arabs as equal, then they will have to work or there’s just nothing to eat request Well, the Jews who came from the union cannot have hatred for the Palestinians. They are not so educated. And there are .... wassat And my uncle when he came there said the most expected thing is shabbat, so I go to an Arab tavern that works and they are up to the star And everyone has the same beer
                      11. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 10 March 2015 23: 54
                        -1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Well, the Jews who came from the union cannot have hatred for the Palestinians. They are not so educated. And there are ....

                        A lot of that? Those who, in their prime, came from the Union, are already practically elderly people (when there was a big aliyah (since 1989, mass repatriation from the USSR began. In 1989-1990, more than 200 thousand repatriates from the USSR arrived in Israel. That is, for 20 years ago), and their children absorbed the "hatred" with which Israeli propaganda stuffs it every day.
                        Those who know Russian - yes a lot. But brought up in the spirit of internationalism of the USSR is not enough.
                      12. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 11 March 2015 00: 10
                        +3
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        But brought up in the spirit of internationalism of the USSR is not enough.

                        My cousin for example, a difference of 12 years
                      13. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 11 March 2015 00: 20
                        -1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        My cousin for example, a difference of 12 years

                        And?
                      14. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 11 March 2015 00: 26
                        +6
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And?

                        Well!? belay You don't seem to be a padded jacket request A cotton bathrobe with bedbugs
                      15. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 00: 34
                        +1
                        Padded jacket sour somehow ..... loses its former lightness)))
                      16. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 01: 02
                        0
                        Quote: stroitel
                        Padded jacket sour somehow ..... loses its former lightness)))

                        Ooooohhh, that’s not true. He always, almost alone, fights with all of Israel’s contingent. soldier
                      17. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 01: 06
                        +2
                        Then I watch the Israeli comrades froze today in alarm belay although perhaps the Internet in Israel has risen sharply. The padded jacket doesn’t know to whom to paste the pace lol
                      18. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 00: 36
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        And?

                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And?

                        Well!? belay You don't seem to be a padded jacket request A cotton bathrobe with bedbugs

                        Padded jacket, And the Suicide bomber once called you a torn padded jacket. And so people don’t love you like that.laughing
                      19. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 11 March 2015 00: 38
                        +4
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Straight scum

                        Nah No. Colorado tongue wassat
                      20. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 00: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Straight scum

                        Nah No. Colorado tongue wassat

                        Ha ha ha. Real in my field a bit of a prod. Well looooooooooooohi laughing yes bully
                      21. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 00: 38
                        +1
                        Zhidomassonsky conspiracy .... definitely wink
                      22. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 11 March 2015 00: 42
                        0
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Padded jacket, And the Suicide bomber once called you a torn padded jacket. And so people don’t love you like that.

                        You see how decent and cultured I am in comparison with him laughing
                      23. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 00: 48
                        0
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        Padded jacket, And the Suicide bomber once called you a torn padded jacket. And so people don’t love you like that.

                        You see how decent and cultured I am in comparison with him laughing

                        So it is still, a very respected user among forum users, user Ptah has repeatedly stated, among other things. laughing
                      24. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 11 March 2015 00: 39
                        0
                        Quote: Ruslan67

                        Well!? belay You don't seem to be a padded jacket request A cotton bathrobe with bedbugs

                        What is this "hitting"? smile
                      25. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 00: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        And everyone has the same beer

                        Poor blacks from Central Africa, except for human beings, have not tasted anything, what kind of beer is there crying
                      26. And Us Rat
                        And Us Rat 12 March 2015 17: 03
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        There hatred between nationalities and Jews exacerbate it and exacerbate it.

                        Wrote in another post but not deployed request orthodoxy is very muddy there, if we recognize the Arabs as equal, then they will have to work or there’s just nothing to eat request Well, the Jews who came from the union cannot have hatred for the Palestinians. They are not so educated. And there are .... wassat And my uncle when he came there said the most expected thing is shabbat, so I go to an Arab tavern that works and they are up to the star And everyone has the same beer

                        What kind of nonsense? fool

                        Arabs do not have taverns; Islam forbids alcohol. On Shabbat, all Israeli taverns are open - we do not live in Iranian mullocracy.

                        The repatriates react most sharply to the Arabs, precisely because of their upbringing and culture - a kind of echo of Russian dislike of the Caucasian Muslim peoples.

                        Listen to a smaller padded jacket - the origins of the Jewish-Arab war in Islam. In the Koran, a covenant is written to Muslims, by hook or by crook, to destroy the Jews.
                        Tolerance of the Jewish community in Iran, for example, is lecimeria for the sake of the civilized world, if Islam seizes power over the world, all Jews in Muslim countries will be killed, for "Allah pleases."

                        And the orthodox do not muddle anything - they are a marginal minority and have no decisive influence.

                        The "Palestinians" are the same Arabs who were thrown on the altar of fighting Israel by their leaders. An artificial concept, until the 67th year no "Palestinians" existed in nature.
                      27. builder
                        builder 10 March 2015 23: 45
                        +3
                        They were here on the battle site)))) I am ready to discuss the actions of specific Trotsky, Zinovievs, etc. And I am also ready to discuss the actions and policies of the state of Israel. But I am not very pleased when they begin to spread rot site visitors on a national basis. (I'm not only writing about you now).
                        About Palestinian figures - you can’t look at their actions with pink glasses, of course you posted a lot of videos, but I think that Israeli citizens can post interesting videos as much.
                        For me, the video was illustrative of how Arabs alive tore into pieces two Israeli boys conscripts who mistakenly drove to the Palestinians in a taxi. What was it? Righteous anger or primitive atrocities? There are no angels on either side. And the use of children for their own purposes - meanness, patriot = take a gun, do not use children’s horseradish
                      28. builder
                        builder 10 March 2015 23: 49
                        0
                        This is to Vatnik
                      29. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 March 2015 23: 54
                        +3
                        Quote: stroitel
                        Were here on the battle site))))

                        And what are the battles on Skype for viskar and cognac wassat
                      30. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 00: 04
                        +2
                        that's for sure))) But after all, people who respect themselves, as a rule, respect their interlocutor. And smart people never cross the line. No matter how we relate to the policies and actions of Israel, we never offended visitors to the site just because the flag of Israel hangs over their nickname.
                        Sorry if I sloppily set out - a tough day today (post-holiday)
                      31. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 10 March 2015 23: 59
                        -3
                        Quote: stroitel
                        For me, the video was illustrative of how Arabs alive tore into pieces two Israeli boys conscripts who mistakenly drove to the Palestinians in a taxi.

                        What was that? Let them lay out, I'll see too.
                        Quote: stroitel
                        but I think that the citizens of Israel can post no less interesting videos.

                        Well, where are they from their video? I have never seen.
                      32. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 00: 15
                        +2
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Well, where are they from their video? I have never seen.


                        especially not straining .....
                        I’ll find a soldier (I promise)
                      33. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 11 March 2015 00: 34
                        -1
                        So what ?
                        Imagine the situation - you and your neighbor were given a two-room apartment, but you quarreled with him, in the end he won and "drove" you and your family to a corner in the corridor and even fenced off with a fence and now you eat what he gave and "go" to the toilet when he will resolve.
                        Moreover, he is also trying to reduce the small territory of yours and yours.
                        Don’t you be indignant and start to fight as you can?
                        I do not justify them in any way, but why are they worse than the Jews who bomb them and shoot them from artillery, killing thousands?
                      34. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 00: 48
                        +3
                        Yes, no worse than that, and they are good. Only you, for some reason, see the crimes of some and do not notice the atrocities of others.
                        And more .... The site has a forum, you can write an article "The atrocities of the Israeli military since the establishment of the State of Israel to our days." Isn't it possible? Why, as soon as an article appears on the subject of arming the Israeli army, Vatnik appears, who will not say a word specifically about the subject of the article, but will reduce everything to the topic: "There was no water in the tap, the Jews drank the water ..."
                      35. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 11 March 2015 00: 57
                        -2
                        Quote: stroitel
                        Why, as soon as an article appears on the subject of arming the Israeli army, Vatnik appears, who will not say a word specifically about the subject of the article, but will reduce everything to the topic: "There was no water in the tap, the Jews drank water ..."

                        Ohhhh, something I have a strong belief that you are not from St. Petersburg and not even from this country at all.
                        Read books, maybe something is written about it and you will find out where the padded jacket comes from lol
                      36. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 01: 01
                        0
                        But essentially, there seems to be nothing to answer.
                      37. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 11 March 2015 01: 07
                        -1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        But essentially, there seems to be nothing to answer.

                        Why answer you, I already understood you next ... Well, you understand smile
                      38. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 01: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Why answer you, I already understood you next ... Well, you understand

                        bolder ....
                        who will not say a word specifically about the subject of the article, but will reduce everything to the topic: "There was no water in the tap, the Jews drank the water ..."

                        Refute ..... If you are not a balobol
                      39. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 01: 28
                        +1
                        It turns out that Mr. Vatnik brought me to the emergency.
                        Good luck in your hard field. It is a pity that life did not teach you to answer for your words.
                        All the same, a balobol?
                      40. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 01: 34
                        +1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        It turns out that Mr. Vatnik brought me to the emergency.
                        Good luck in your hard field. It is a pity that life did not teach you to answer for your words.
                        All the same, a balobol?

                        He was shy and went to sleep
                      41. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 01: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasmash
                        He was shy and went to sleep

                        I’ll go to sleep the same way - get up soon (construction site should it be amiss. Freemasons and all that)
                        And it’s buggy - I don’t see Vatnik’s comments. wink
                        Thank you for a nice evening. All the best.
                      42. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 18: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        I’ll go to sleep the same way - get up soon (the construction site is wrong, free masons and all that) And it’s buggy - I don’t see Vatnik’s comments. Thank you for a nice evening. All the best.

                        I hope you did not dream of him today.laughingRight now, by the way, I found one of my old good ones from a Jewish phrasebook, ironically, he is, well, a very big friend of a quilted jacket
                      43. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 01: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        Why, as soon as an article appears on the subject of arming the Israeli army, Vatnik appears, who will not say a word specifically about the subject of the article, but will reduce everything to the topic: "There was no water in the tap, the Jews drank water ..."

                        Because Vatnik is an anti-Semite Jew belay
                      44. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 01: 02
                        0
                        This also happens (usually it happens)
                      45. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 01: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        This also happens (usually it happens)

                        And there are also blue ones that women love (as a rule, this happens on another planet) lol
                      46. And Us Rat
                        And Us Rat 12 March 2015 17: 09
                        +1
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        What was that? Let them lay out, I'll see too.

                      47. builder
                        builder 12 March 2015 21: 04
                        0
                        Thanks, I couldn’t find this video.
                      48. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 11 March 2015 00: 15
                        0
                        Quote: stroitel
                        But I am not very pleased when they begin to spread rot site visitors on a national basis.

                        Well, it’s not so harsh, I don’t offend them on a national basis. You, for example, at least once from me heard a phrase in relation to the Jews, as yesterday the professor "gave out" about the Palestinians killed by the Israelis - dead Arabs.
                        I'm sure not.
                      49. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 00: 19
                        +1
                        It resorts to the professor from me periodically ... I have not seen your discussion, but I think you brought him to hysteria (which is not surprising)))
                      50. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 01: 05
                        0
                        Quote: stroitel
                        To the professor and from me periodically

                        He apparently also called you a young man and scared you with a black list yes
                      51. builder
                        builder 11 March 2015 01: 08
                        0
                        No, we never went over to personalities (culturally communicated)
                      52. Krasmash
                        Krasmash 11 March 2015 00: 19
                        0
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Well, it’s not so harsh, I “don’t offend” them on the basis of ethnicity. For example, at least once from me you heard a phrase in relation to the Jews, as yesterday the professor "gave out" about the Palestinians killed by the Israelis - dead Arabs.
                        I'm sure not.

                        Well, straight, but you deftly brought the professor to tantrum once laughingHe put Romanov on his ears.laughing.All wailed a padded jacket-Natsik and his place in prison.laughing
  11. den3080
    den3080 10 March 2015 16: 02
    +2
    Hohotsid test smile
  12. bekjan
    bekjan 10 March 2015 16: 46
    0
    Great weapon !!!
  13. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 10 March 2015 16: 47
    +1
    Cheap and angry
  14. Massik
    Massik 10 March 2015 16: 49
    +4
    We see a demonstration (for example, attempts on the Maidan in Moscow)
    1. go to the nearest repair team;
    2. take a speaker barrel
    3.opens the nearest sewer well
    4. we collect working substance
    5. turn on the pump create a pressure of 5-6 points
    6.Connect the thin fitting and sprinkle the violators with sewage.
    Pros: non-lethal (if only someone slips and breaks the head), no modifications are needed (dual-use products laughing ), an excellent effect (no one has yet observed the desire to protest with stuck-on "lively", immediately there is a desire to wash)
    Cons: requires subsequent "degassing" laughing and sanitation (enough fire truck with water, in the city this issue is easily solved)
    For me, this is the cheapest and most humane method compared to gas and rubber bullets. Although I remember the Americans had gas that causes a sharp desire to relieve itself, also not a bad method.
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 10 March 2015 16: 58
    +4
    They were canceled not for low efficiency, but
    because of the wave of protests about the next "atrocities of the occupiers":
    "stones - for children ????"
    1. corporal
      corporal 10 March 2015 18: 23
      +1
      So I say, rubber balls. And then they can be used as jumpers. Children are just a joy. wassat
  16. 1234567890
    1234567890 10 March 2015 21: 41
    +1
    The best head remedy is an ax. The best remedy for mass riots is the identification and advance cutting of organizers. Next is a matter of technology (special equipment).
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 12 March 2015 20: 06
      0
      A US

      So what? Your punishers kill innocent Palestinians by the thousands and nothing. In the last conflict in Gaza alone, you brutally destroyed 2000 people, including 500 children.
      And then two soldiers were killed and this is already considered a tragedy?
  17. Kaiten
    Kaiten 10 March 2015 21: 52
    +3
    In fact, they ceased to be used, because with the beginning of the "peace process" stone throwing was quietly replaced by shootings. Before the signing of the Donkey Treaties, the Palestinians had very few firearms, but after the signing they rushed to them like a wide river, and we delivered the lion's share to them. Special thanks to the "innocent" Rabin and, unfortunately, still alive Peres for this.
  18. vo2015
    vo2015 11 March 2015 00: 22
    +5
    in the comments to the article "quilted jacket" is generally inadequate
  19. Orakul2000
    Orakul2000 11 March 2015 08: 31
    +1
    The secret weapon of the Israeli army!
    One of the biggest advantages of the IDF in the war is that in a critical situation, the Israeli soldier is demolished, and he begins to crack off numbers that he would never have expected from himself. Well, for example…
    Have you heard about mine clearance? The IDF uses a device called the CAFASH for this - a hefty barrel-shaped crap with a relatively small rocket tail.
    It flies over a minefield and unwinds a cord hung with explosives.
    Then the whole thing is blown up at once, causes the detonation of the minefield, and a passage is formed with a width of X and a length of meters. The explosives in the TsAFASH are a wild number, and it flounders in such a way that it lays ears a few kilometers away and the glasses fly out.
    So: a story that engineering troops take pride in. The legend of the Tsafash in Beirut. (Why “legend”? Yes, because in fact it was not quite there, not quite then and not quite like that. But people like this version ...)
    1982 year, the Israeli army famously travels back and forth across Lebanon. In the fun city of Beirut, an abstract infantry company is caught in the crossfire. The company yells into the radio: "They kill us, save us." And nearby, as luck would have it, nobody but the engineering platoon - TsAFASH and several bulldozers.
    The platoon engineer has the same “roof demolition”. Our guys are there, they need to be saved, and everything else is deep purple. He screams into the microphone: “Now it will explode, so you immediately dive into the cloud” and launches the TsAFASH along the street being shot through.
    Balloon!
    Well, what can I tell you ... It’s not that there is anything left of the houses on both sides of the street ... There was such a narrow street, there was an avenue.
    The remnants of a company scratch a newly-found avenue on closed cloudy dust, hide behind bulldozer buckets, and the whole company with dignity leaves. A curtain.
    1. tilix
      tilix 11 March 2015 13: 11
      0
      It was a little different, TsAFASH means that it is intended against tank mines, it is on a cart behind the tank, the hero's name is Pini Dagan.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 12 March 2015 00: 19
        0
        Description of the feat

        "And just a regiment of golan on the way to Beirut drove the retreating gang of Faddayun in front of them (not Hezbollah, which divorced in Lebanon later). The terrorists sat down in the village, shooting from the windows from both sides the only street of the village. They could not leave behind the enemy unit. After several hours of skirmish, during which they could not drive the terrorists out of the village, our company, led by the regiment's deputy commander Pini Nagan, pulled up to the golanchiks. "
  20. Orakul2000
    Orakul2000 11 March 2015 08: 32
    +3
    And there was Operation Grapes of Wrath somewhere in the mid-nineties. This is when the IDF scammed for two weeks on Hezbollahs (if anyone doesn’t know - as the Israeli army calls the valiant terrorists from the Lebanese Hezbollah organization) of everything that was available. I don’t remember why it all started - it seems that the Hezbollahs violated the “gentlemen’s agreement” and fired “Katyushas” not in the military (which would be within the unwritten “rules of the game”), but in the city.
    So, then there was a wild scandal in the international press. The Israeli bastards carried the UN hospital in Lebanon to such a mother. From 155-millimeter self-propelled guns. Together with everyone who was in the hospital.
    Do you know what was really there?
    The cries of a certain lieutenant are heard on the radio: “Help, they’re killing us.” The battery of Hezbollah mortars has shot and is pounding on his company, as in a dash.
    The self-propelled combat battalion commanded “Direct!” His assistant looks at the intelligence and gets loudly hardened. Because the mortars are installed on the roof of the UN Hospital. Not weak, right?
    The battalion commander is blowing the roof. In an obscene and intelligible form, he informs his superiors, assistant and the Lord that he personally has this fact in one place, because our guys are being killed there, and the rest does not bother him. And orders to open fire.
    Mortars - to smithereens. The hospital too. As for me, then, even if it seems cruel to someone - it should be. Because the responsibility for the death of those who were in the hospital lies with the UN members, who allowed the Hezbollahs to shoot from their roof, and ki hiding behind the sick and wounded.
    By the way, according to international wartime laws, a medical facility from which fire is fired, loses immunity ...
  21. Orakul2000
    Orakul2000 11 March 2015 08: 33
    0
    Or, say, have you heard about the 51 mm mortar? Not? In vain. Ingenious thing. Tube with a heel. There are no bipods, the gunner simply rests his heel on the ground and, by eye, moves the pipe up and down and left and right. Sight - a white strip drawn on a pipe by hand. To humiliate the mortar completely, the shot is fired not with a trigger and cord, but with a trigger crane. Yes, like shit like a faucet. A turn is a shot.
    You can imagine the accuracy of shooting.

    So, Magavniki (MAGAV-Border Guard Service and Military Gendarmerie in one person) in jeeps are chasing some suspicious types. Types scoot on a pickup truck. In the process there is a mutual shooting.
    There is also a separation of girls ... magavnits, or what? I don’t even know what the feminine gender will be from the word “magavnik”. In short, the magavnitsa are insulted that they did not take them to chase, and I really want to participate.
    There is the notorious "demolition of the roof." The girls pull out unknown for what the hell the "51 mortar" they gave out, aim more or less towards the pickup truck ... and put the very first mine right into his hood.
    Here Oleg Divov, as a former mortar man, would appreciate the probability of such a hit. By the way, wizards from those jeeps almost killed the girls later, because they very well represented this probability (as well as their chances to get this mine) ...
    By the way, in the same Beirut, for the same "51 mortar", people developed a direct fire technique. Rest against the wall behind your back - and through this window opposite ...

    And there is such a small truck like "Abir" ("Knight").
    In the Czech language there is the word "loathing", which means either a car in general or a truck - I don’t know for sure. So, Abir - this is just a sight and is. It’s hard to call a car. Four wheels, a body, a cabin half-tarpaulin, high cross-country ability (that is - that is), a wild crash of the engine and all the loosened connections (and there are a lot of loosened ones).
    And so, it means that a driver, an officer and two storekeepers are going to Abir. They are going from one base to another so that some boxes with something there are either taken or brought. They jump (Abir never shone with a soft pendant), they do not talk because of wild noise.
    And so, at the crossroads right on the course, they see a wonderful picture. They are trying to drag an Israeli soldier into a three hundredth Mercedes with Palestinian license plates. Weapons have already been taken from the soldier, but he is still fluttering and trying to fight back.
    The demolition of the roof occurs in the entire four at the same time. The driver picks up speed and rushes to ram.
    When Abir kicks at you all the way - this is serious. By the way, he also roars and rumbles, approaching no worse than a tank, so the psychological effect is obtained - turn off the light. Therefore, the guys in a Mercedes throw away an almost stolen soldier and try to gain speed. They manage to accelerate for kilometers to forty per hour, and then a thundering all-wheel drive “knight” is cut into them from all the dope.
    Mercedes, like a bird, flies off the road and sticks into the bushes. And the whole four from Abir jumps to their feet and begins to sit in line with the lines of fire from the hip. Four stores each. In total, therefore, more than four and a half hundred rounds.
    The officer goes to see what is inside, returns and sincerely advises the others not to look.
    Then the examination decided that there were three people in Merc. Probably
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 12 March 2015 00: 13
      0
      Quote: Orakul2000
      Or, say, have you heard about the 51 mm mortar?

      52 mm he was. He was a regular in jeep-galabs. And for accurate shooting from this thing you quickly get used to it. Very fast.
  22. Orakul2000
    Orakul2000 11 March 2015 08: 34
    +2
    "Volcano", in fact, is not an Israeli creation, but a Big Brother, that is, Americans. Twenty-millimeter anti-aircraft gun with a rotating block of six barrels. The rate of fire is insane, 2400 rounds per minute.
    But it was some kind of bizarre Israeli who thought of using the Volcano in ambush of Hezbollons in Lebanon.
    They go, it means, they are terrorists, they don’t touch anyone, they drag “Katyusha” - they make a fuss over the Israelis a couple of times ...
    From the bushes: drrrrr!
    That's all.
    Only shoes stand on the path. The rest was demolished.
    Asterisks in a row, bones in a row -
    Tram moved squad October ...
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 12 March 2015 00: 15
      +1
      Quote: Orakul2000
      "Volcano", in fact, is not an Israeli creation, but a Big Brother, that is, Americans. Twenty-millimeter anti-aircraft gun with a rotating block of six barrels. The rate of fire is insane, 2400 rounds per minute.
      But it was some kind of bizarre Israeli who thought of using the Volcano in ambush of Hezbollons in Lebanon.
      They go, it means, they are terrorists, they don’t touch anyone, they drag “Katyusha” - they make a fuss over the Israelis a couple of times ...
      From the bushes: drrrrr!
      That's all.
      Only shoes stand on the path. The rest was demolished.
      Asterisks in a row, bones in a row -
      Tram moved squad October ...


      But I saw this in 2002 in the Helmet during the assault on the Kasbah. Nun-Meme (anti-aircraft gunners) drove up in their M-113s and fired a line on the roofs after civilians came out and a warning was sounded. After that, almost everyone else came out, including 10 guys from the so-called. with "blood on hands"
  23. Razvedchik
    Razvedchik 12 March 2015 15: 51
    0
    Class! Normal such a connection between times and from the side of religion, plus a big one. Smiled! There is a film called "The Life of Brian" called Montypython. For a poor Jew who lived at the same time as Christ and was constantly confused with Jesus. So there is a scene of stoning a heretic who mentioned God in vain, told his wife that the halibut she cooked was worthy of Jehovah himself !!! And when I saw this miracle of a cheerful Jewish genius, I immediately remembered about the film, by the way I recommend the partisans there too - Jews are fighting the Roman occupation and, in general, a parody at that time is normal.
  24. = BY = SERG
    = BY = SERG 14 March 2015 07: 58
    +3
    One of my superiors spent part of the military service in Czechoslovakia during the events known to everyone. So, according to his stories, their company gave the order to cut a pair of gas masks into slingshots and stone stones on Czechs, who had the habit, when Soviet armored personnel carriers appeared, of becoming cancer with their pants down and showing their asses. laughing