The current state of the Russian air defense system

To write this article, I was greatly inspired by the excessive patriotic moods of a significant part of the visitors of the Military Review site, which I respect, and also by the slyness of the domestic media, regularly publishing materials about the unprecedented Soviet military gain, including the Air Force and Air Defense.

For example, in a number of media outlets, including on “VO”, in the section “News"A material was published not so long ago under the title:" Two air defense divisions began to guard the airspace of Siberia, the Urals and the Volga region. "

Which says: “The assistant commander of the troops of the Central Military District, Colonel Yaroslav Roshchupkin, said that two air defense divisions had stepped on combat duty, starting to protect the airspace of Siberia, the Urals and the Volga region.

“The duty forces of the two air defense divisions took up combat duty to cover the administrative, industrial and military facilities of the Volga region, the Urals and Siberia. New connections are formed on the basis of the Novosibirsk and Samara aerospace defense brigades, ”RIA Novosti quotes him.

The combat crews equipped with the C-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems will cover the airspace above the territory of the 29 subjects of the Russian Federation, which are the responsibility of the Central Military District.

An inexperienced reader, after such news, may get the impression that our anti-aircraft missile defense units received qualitative and quantitative reinforcement with new anti-aircraft complexes.

In practice, in this case no quantitative, and even more qualitative enhancement of our air defense, has happened. It all comes down to just a change in staffing and organizational structure. New technology in the troops did not arrive.

The C-300PS modification, mentioned in the publication, with all its merits, can in no way be considered new.

C-300PS

C-300PS with 5В55Р rockets was adopted in the distant 1983 year. That is, more than 30 years have passed since the adoption of this system. But at present, in the anti-aircraft missile defense units, more than half of the long-range air defense systems of the C-300P belong to this modification.

In the near future (two to three years), most C-300PS will have to either be written off or overhauled. However, it is not known which option is economically preferable, modernization of old or construction of new anti-aircraft systems.

An earlier towed version of the C-300PT has already been either written off or transferred "in storage" without any chance of returning to the troops.

The “freshest” complex from the “300th” C-300PM family was put into the Russian army in the middle of the 90's. Most of the anti-aircraft missiles currently in service, was made at the same time.

A new widely advertised anti-aircraft missile system, the C-400, has just begun to enter service. In total, 2014 regimental kits were delivered to the troops as of 10 year. Taking into account the forthcoming mass write-off of this number of combat equipment which has developed its resource, it is absolutely not enough.

C-400

Of course, experts, of whom there are quite a few on the site, can reasonably argue that C-400 is significantly superior in its capabilities to the system, which it replaces. However, one should not forget that the means of air attack of the main “potential partner” are constantly being qualitatively improved. In addition, as follows from "open sources", there is still no mass production of promising 9М96Е and 9М96Е2 rockets and XLUMXН40Е ultra-long-range missiles. Currently, the C-6 is used for the 400H48Е, 6H48Е6, 2Н48Е6 RR C-3PM missiles, as well as the 300H400МДМ developed for C-48.

All in all, according to “open sources”, in our country there are about 1500 PU-ZRS of the C-300 family - apparently, taking into account the air defense units of the ground forces that are “in storage” and in service.

Today, Russian air defense forces (those that are part of the Air Force and Air Defense) have a 34 regiment with C-300PS, C-300PM and C-400 air defense systems. In addition, not so long ago, several anti-aircraft missile brigades converted into regiments were transferred to the Air Force and Air Defense from the air defense of the ground forces - two 2 divisional brigades C-300В and "Buk" and one mixed (two divisions C-300В , one division "Beech"). Thus, in the troops we have 38 regiments including the 105 divisions.

However, these forces are extremely unevenly distributed throughout the country, Moscow is best protected, around which there are ten C-300P regiments (as part of two of them there are two C-400 divisions).

Satellite image of Google Earth. Layout of positions ZRK around Moscow. The colored triangles and squares - the positions and areas of basing of the existing air defense missile systems, blue diamonds and circles - surveillance radars, white - currently eliminated SAMs and radars

Not bad covered the northern capital - St. Petersburg. The sky above is protected by two C-300PS regiments and two C-300PM regiments.

Satellite image of Google Earth. The layout of the position of ZRK around St. Petersburg

The SF bases in Murmansk, Severomorsk and Polyarny cover three C-300PS and C-300PM regiments. In the Pacific Fleet in the Vladivostok and Nakhodka regions - two C-300PS regiments, and the C-400 regiment received two divisions. Avachinsky Bay in Kamchatka, where SSBNs are based, is covered by one C-300PS regiment.

Satellite image of Google Earth. ZRS-400 in the vicinity of Nakhodka

The Kaliningrad Region and the Baltic Fleet base in Baltiysk are protected from air attack by a mixed regiment of C-300PS / C-400.

Satellite image of Google Earth. ZRS-400 in the Kaliningrad region on the former positions of the C-200

Recently, the Black Sea Fleet's anti-aircraft cover has increased. Prior to the well-known events related to Ukraine, a regiment of mixed composition with the C-300PM and C-400 divisions was stationed in the Novorossiysk area.

Currently, there is a significant increase in air defense of the main naval base of the Black Sea Fleet - Sevastopol. It is reported that in November, the Peninsula air defense grouping was replenished with C-300PM air defense complexes. Taking into account the fact that complexes of this type are not currently manufactured by industry for their own needs, they appear to have been transferred from another region of the country.

The central region of our country in terms of anti-aircraft cover resembles a "quilt", in which there are more tears than patches. One regiment of C-300PS is available in the Novgorod region, near Voronezh, Samara and Saratov. The Rostov Region is covered by one C-300PM and “Beech” regiment.

In the Urals, near Yekaterinburg, there are positions of an anti-aircraft missile regiment armed with a C-300PS. Beyond the Urals, in Siberia, there are only three regiments deployed in a giant territory, one C-300PS under the Novosibirsk regiment, in Irkutsk and Achinsk. In Buryatia, not far from Jida station, one regiment of the Buk air defense system is stationed.

Satellite image of Google Earth. ZRS C-300PS near Irkutsk

In addition to anti-aircraft systems protecting the base fleet in Primorye and Kamchatka, in the Far East, there are two more S-300PS regiments covering Khabarovsk (Knyaze-Volkonskoye) and Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Lian), respectively, and one S-300V regiment is deployed in the vicinity of Birobidzhan.

That is, the whole huge Far Eastern Federal District is protected: one regiment of mixed C-300PS / C-400, four regiments of C-300PS, one regiment of C-300В. This is all that remains of the once-powerful 11 Army of Air Defense.

"Holes" between air defense facilities in the east of the country are several thousand kilometers, and anyone and anything can fly into them. However, not only in Siberia and the Far East, but throughout the whole country, a huge number of critically important objects of industry and infrastructure are not covered by any means of air defense.

Atomic and hydroelectric power plants remain unprotected over a large part of the country, airstrikes on which can lead to disastrous consequences. Vulnerability from air attack facilities of the Russian SNF dislocation sites provokes “potential partners” to a “disarming strike” attempt with high-precision weapons of non-nuclear equipment.

In addition, the long-range air defense systems themselves need protection. They need to be covered from the air by short-range air defense. Today, shelves with C-400 receive for this ZRPK "Pantsir-S" (2 per division), but C-300P and B are not covered with anything, except for, of course, effective protection anti-aircraft machine guns caliber 12,7 mm.

"Pantsir-S"

Things are no better with the lighting of the air. This should be done by the radio engineering troops, their functional responsibility is the early issuance of information about the beginning of an air attack by the enemy, the provision of target designation for anti-aircraft missile forces and aviation air defense, as well as information for the management of formations, units and units of air defense.

During the years of the “reforms”, a continuous radar field formed during the USSR times was completely lost in some places.
At present, there is practically no possibility of controlling the air situation over the polar latitudes.

Until recently, our political and former military leadership, apparently, was occupied by other more pressing issues, such as the reduction of the armed forces and the sale of "excessive" military property and real estate.

Only recently, at the end of 2014, was Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu announced measures that should help remedy the existing situation in this area.

As part of the expansion of our military presence in the Arctic, construction and reconstruction of existing facilities on the Novosibirsk Islands and Franz Josef Land is planned, reconstruction of airfields and deployment of modern radars in Tiksi, Naryan-Mar, Alykel, Vorkuta, Anadyr and Rogachevo are planned. Creating a solid radar field over the territory of Russia should be completed by 2018 year. At the same time, it is planned to update radar stations and data processing and transmission facilities by 30%.

Special mention deserves the fighter aircraft, designed to deal with the means of air attack of the enemy and perform tasks to achieve air superiority. Currently, the Air Force of the Russian Federation formally counts (taking into account the “stored”) about 900 fighters, of which: Su-27 of all modifications - more than 300, Su-30 of all modifications - about 50, Su-35С - 34, MiG -29 of all modifications - near 250, MiG-31 of all modifications - near 250.

It should be noted that a significant part of the fleet of Russian fighters is only nominally in the Air Force. Many aircraft made in the late 80-x - early 90-x, require major repairs and upgrades. In addition, due to problems with the supply of spare parts and the replacement of failed BREO units, part of the upgraded fighters is in fact, as the aviators put it, “doves of peace”. They can still rise into the air, but to fully accomplish the combat mission is no longer.

The past year 2014 was significant in terms of the unprecedented volumes of supplies to the Russian armed forces since the days of the USSR.

In 2014, our Air Force received the 24 multifunctional Su-35С fighter produced by the Yu.A. Aviation Plant. Gagarin in Komsomolsk-on-Amur (branch of "Company" Sukhoi "):

Su-35S at Dzemgi airfield, photo of the author

Twenty of them became part of the reconstructed 23 th Fighter Aviation Regiment of the 303 Guards Mixed Aviation Division of the 3 th Command of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia at the Dzemgi airfield jointly with the Khabarovsk Territory.

All these fighters were built under a contract dated August 2009, with the Russian Ministry of Defense for the construction of X-NUMX Su-48C fighters. Thus, the total number of machines manufactured under this contract reached 35 by the beginning of 2015.

The production of Su-30SM fighters for the Russian Air Force is conducted by Irkut Corporation under two contracts for 30 machines each, concluded with the Russian Ministry of Defense in March and December of the year 2012. After the delivery of 18 machines in 2014, the total number of Su-30CM supplied by the Russian Air Force reached 34 units.

Su-30M2 at the Dzemgi airfield, photo of the author

Another eight Su-30М2 fighters were produced by the Yu.A. Aviation Plant. Gagarin in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

Three fighters of this type entered the newly formed 38 th Fighter Regiment of the 27 th mixed aviation division of the 4 th command of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia at the airfield Belbek (Crimea).

Su-30М2 aircraft were built under a contract dated December 2012 for the supply of 16 Su-30М2 fighters, bringing the total number of vehicles built under this contract to 12, and the total number of Su-30М2 in the Russian Air Force to 16.

However, this significant by today's standards amount is absolutely not enough to replace in the destructive regiments of the aircraft due to the complete physical wear and tear of aircraft.

Even with the current rate of deliveries of aircraft to the troops, according to forecasts, in five years, the destructive fleet of domestic air forces will shrink to about 600 vehicles.

Over the next five years, about 400 Russian fighters will probably be written off - up to 40% of the current payroll.

This is primarily with the upcoming write-off in the very near future of the MiG-29 of the old building (about 200 units). Due to problems with the airframe, about 100 airplanes have already been rejected.

Su-27SM at the Dzemgi airfield, photo of the author

Unmodernized Su-27 will also be written off, the flight resource of which ends in the near future. More than half the number of interceptors MIG-31. As part of the Air Force, it is planned to leave the 30-40 MiG-31 in modifications DZ and BS, another 60 MiG-31 will be upgraded to version BM. The rest of the MiG-31 (about 150 pcs.) Plan to write off.

Part of the shortage of long-distance interceptors should be resolved after the start of the massive deliveries of the PAK FA. It was voiced that the PAK FA before 2020 was planned to be purchased before 60, but so far these are only plans that are likely to undergo a significant adjustment.

The Russian Air Force has 15 ARLO A-50 airplanes (still 4 in “storage”), they have recently been supplemented with 3 upgraded A-50U.
The first A-50U was delivered to the Russian Air Force in 2011 year.

As a result of modernization works within the greatly increased the functionality of the aviation complex airborne early warning and control. The number of simultaneously tracked targets and simultaneously induced fighter improved detection range of different aircraft.

The A-50 DRLO A-100 aircraft based on the Il-76МД-90А with the PS-90А-76 engine should replace the A-XNUMX. The antenna complex is built on the basis of an antenna with an active phased array.

At the end of November 2014, TANTK them. G. M. Beriev received the first Il-76MD-90А aircraft for conversion into ARLO A-100 aircraft. Russian Air Force shipments are scheduled to begin in 2016.

All domestic DRLO aircraft are based on a permanent basis in the European part of the country. Outside the Urals, they appear quite rarely, for the most part during large-scale exercises.

Unfortunately, strong statements from high tribunes about the revival of our Air Force and Air Defense often have little to do with reality. In the “new” Russia, absolute irresponsibility for the promises made by high-ranking civilian and military officials has become an unpleasant tradition.

As part of the state armaments program, it was supposed to have twenty-eight X-NUMX-divisional regiments of the C-2 and up to ten divisions of the latest C-400 air defense missile system (the latter should perform tasks not only of air defense and tactical missile defense, but also of strategic missile defense) by 500. Now there is no doubt that these plans will be foiled. The same fully applies to plans for the production of the PAK FA.

However, for the disruption of the state program, no one, as usual, will incur serious punishment. After all, we are "its not we pass," and "we do not 37-Year", is not it?

PS All information given in the article concerning the Russian Air Force and Air Defense is taken from open public sources, a list of which is given. The same applies to possible inaccuracies and errors.

Information sources:
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru
http://bmpd.livejournal.com
http://geimint.blogspot.ru
Satellite images courtesy of Google Earth.

Comments

[nezabor]

Well, everything is lost, the client leaves, the plaster is removed ...))))

[paul72]

What a biting, thoughtful comment.
There would be no refutation to write his article with refutations, with facts refuting the "inventions" of the author.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

The state has money to order, which means that defense enterprises are directly or indirectly to blame for the delay. Or the directors decided to curry favor and initially set unrealistic deadlines, not calculating their capabilities, or simply work slowly.

[Saburov]

Information on the air defense data and the number, distribution, routes, spare areas of deployment, etc., is classified information with a minimum tolerance of OP, so the author is naive as a child on Google estimates our air defense, no one will tell you the number of air defense divisions and regiments, especially since peacetime on combat duty is no more than half of all that we have, and at this time no more than 35-45% of the total, everything that is done new, according to old Soviet tradition, goes into reserve, approximately 60 by 40% and in the state reserve you if they ETS does not count, the information in the country know the most people 30. If you have something, show the enemy that you do not have it. Sun Tzu

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Do they leave for the state reserve not modernized? Or will they be upgraded, say, the C300 to the B4 modification?

[Saburov]

The modernized ones usually go to the troops, and new percent of 60 goes to the reserve, now we have a problem not in armament, but in competent specialists and preparation of calculations, this also applies to the Defense Ministry and the military-industrial complex.

[Stranger.]

Correctly said and most importantly to the place!

[sergo42]

Now everyone in the military-industrial complex is ruled by "effective managers", not by production workers and engineers as in the USSR. And the main thing for the managers is to cut down the dough.

[Athanasius 60]

The directors do not set the terms and volumes of the state order - they try to fulfill it, despite the decay of the technological base and the almost complete absence of the domestic element.

[Denis fj]

The article is full of crap.
For some reason, the author did not write or did not know that already this year another regimental set of S-400 Triumph air defense systems will be placed in Kamchatka so that everything is covered in the Far East.

[Denis fj]

The author, but what data is provided by the analytical center Air Power Australia.
In the event of a full-scale military conflict, the possibility of survival of the US Air Force aviation is almost completely excluded due to the fact that Russian air defense systems: radar systems and anti-aircraft missile systems have reached the highest level of development.
At the same time, the S-300 systems, which make up the backbone of Russian air defense, are still able to deal with any probable enemy. According to a number of European experts, Russia's air defense system is able to destroy up to 80% of any type of aircraft invading its airspace. Russian experts are more modest and estimate this number at 60-65%, but in any case, enemy aviation will simply suffer irreparable damage from which it can no longer recover. So who to believe ........ data for 2013
And believe me, not only people like you author exceed the advantages of our army. In American, too, not everything is so smooth.

[DmitriyDonskoj]

My five kopecks - if they still don’t bomb us, it means something is holding them back. It is unlikely that this is their peacefulness. They did not go to Ukraine and Syria with their troops, as to Libya, Iraq or Yugoslavia. So the RF Armed Forces in defense inspire the probability of filing in the event of a direct collision. But at the same time, Ukraine and Syria are quite at war over the corner, therefore, the threat of filing from the RF Armed Forces in the offensive is insignificant. Since the combat charter requires a minimum of three times an advantage for the offensive, it means that we have one third of the required aircraft. Including in air defense.

[Leonid Navitskas]

He served half his life in the air defense forces. Served Khabarovsk Army, Vladivostok Corps, 10 rtbr Artem (Two, Red Barracks). Finished the service of Father Askold. When today I asked about the fate of the units where I served, I was surprised to find that the air defense of Primorsky Territory essentially does not exist. With a hypothetical strike of the Kyrgyz Republic on the territory of the Primorsky Territory, there is Nothing to defend.

[nezabor]

I looked at the articles of the author and the couple I completely stopped liking ...
A Cossack, mishandled))) (c)

[RU-Officer]

I looked at the articles of the author and the couple I completely stopped liking ...
A Cossack, mishandled))) (c)

And no one promised that the truth would be sweet ...
And "washing dirty linen in public" is not the most pleasant thing, but if you don't, you will have to live up to your ears in mud
Stop copying the habits of ostriches - now this is already too expensive a pleasure.
What, only air defense problems? Even the Strategic Missile Forces were almost crumbled into a "small vinaigrette" to please the EBN reformers!
It is bitter to admit, but the previous information "noodles" intended for ordinary people (that is, you and me) have undergone significant changes in the direction of "plausibility", it has become not so shamelessly long and shameless, tinted in "patriotic" colors. As one satirist used to say: "Licky bachelor - that is bad!"

[nezabor]

Quote: RU-Officer

As one satirist used to say: "Licky bachelor - that is bad!"

I'm talking about the general context of the author’s articles, judging by them everywhere everything is not shy, everything is fine, but somehow we have everything according to shit ...
go over the articles, understand what I mean.

[Bongo]

Quote: nezabor

go over the articles, understand what I mean.

Quote if it is not difficult for YOU and please refute what I wrote if you can. Otherwise, it is only a shaking of the air and pouring mud on others.

[Athanasius 60]

No need to try to debate with "non-fence" - his ideas about the state of air defense are received from the TV and rumored.

[zyablik.olga]

Quote: nezabor

go over the articles, understand what I mean.

Less to you for slander! I thought that maybe I missed something in Sergey’s publications, but there is no substance indicated by you:

Quote: nezabor

and we somehow all on shit ...

not observed there. Why build in vain? If you do not agree with the facts set forth in this publication, please object to the argument.
Everyone can get acquainted with all Sergey’s publications here: http://topwar.ru/user/Bongo/news/

[78bor1973]

I’ve been at VO for quite some time, but I haven’t seen frankly laudatory articles, and reading them is not very interesting, but to draw far-reaching conclusions on the basis of published information is also untrue!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: nezabor

A Cossack, mishandled)))

Why mishandled, he is right that everything is lacking. Another thing is that after the collapse, it is not realistic to restore everything at once.

[Bongo]

Quote: nezabor

I looked at the articles of the author and the couple I completely stopped like it ... But the Cossack, mishandled))) (c)

And I don’t have to like anyone, especially YOU I am also very curious about where I came from and by whom? It would be nice to confirm your words with something.

[xtur]

> And I don't have to be liked by anyone, especially YOU

firstly, the author is obliged to respect readers - this is part of his duties, if he has already posted the article in public access.
He grabbed the tug, do not say that not a dozen!

secondly - even from my point of view, not a citizen of Russia, the article shows a dislike for the country. And any article on a military theme will be checked by readers on the topic of love for the motherland.

I will give a simple example - poor air defense cover by air defense / missile defense systems. Now for the Russian Federation the main danger is a clash with NATO, and it is obvious that this was quite obvious to the country's authorities many years before the current events. And even then they made their choice - who is the enemy and who is the ally.

The numbers on the MiG-31 which they decided to cut and leave at least questionable, I read in the open press with reference to various authorities about completely different numbers. In the article about the unflattering state of the country's air defense, the absence of indications of the ambiguity of digital data is interpreted unambiguously - as malice, because only one Putin and Shoigu can know reliable data, and everyone else must always assume that their information is insufficient. And this confidence in its lack of awareness must manifest itself in indicating the range of digital ratings, indicating the author's point of view on a reliable figure, with argument


And most importantly, the lack of any analysis of the concept of air defense / missile defense cover nationwide

[Bongo]

Quote: xtur

secondly - even from my point of view, not a citizen of Russia, the article shows a dislike for the country. And any article on a military theme will be checked by readers on the topic of love for the motherland.

Excuse me, but where did you notice "dislike for the country"? If the article was about the fact that everything is fine with us in terms of air defense-air force - would it be love?

Quote: xtur

I will give a simple example - poor air defense cover by air defense / missile defense systems. Now for the Russian Federation the main danger is a clash with NATO, and it is obvious that this was quite obvious to the country's authorities many years before the current events. And even then they made their choice - who is the enemy and who is the ally.

Voto does not need this! I myself live and once served in air defense in the Far East, and I know how things are here in this area by hearsay.

Quote: xtur

The numbers on the MiG-31 which they decided to cut and leave at least questionable, I read in the open press with reference to various authorities about completely different numbers.

Doubt - this is your right, but I have no other data. Moreover, in the summer of last year, he himself found out in what state the MiG-31 are in Yelizovo.

[xtur]

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I do not want to develop the topic of your attitude to your country further, because we will inevitably run into an analysis of your and my personality, which is clearly offtopic. I’ll just give explanations in case the article suddenly had the wrong effect that you were counting on

> Excuse me, but where did you "dislike the country" noticed? If the article was about the fact that everything is fine with us in terms of air defense-air force - would it be love?

Well, this slides between the lines, and how the person’s attitude is calculated, I roughly explained on the example of the MiG-31, regarding which there were many different figures in the press

> This is not necessary! no I myself live and once served in the air defense system in the Far East, and I know not by hearsay how things stand here in this area.

but this is a matter of principle - the enemies and allies are determined by the military doctrine and the highest leadership of the country, current events clearly indicate that a friend and who is the enemy.
And it is obvious that countries have been preparing for such a confrontation in a few years, and the choice to use limited military resources has been made almost since 1991. It is also obvious that at first de facto already since the time of Yeltsin, and now doctrinally, China has ceased to be considered an enemy of the Russian Federation

[spiolist pas harp]

Quote: xtur

...

Thank you so much! You philologically correctly and fully expressed the essence that I tried to express too emotionally a little higher

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: nezabor

Well, everything is lost, the client leaves, the plaster is removed ...))))

There is such a thing :) although if you look at the article from a different angle, it’s generally not bad, it’s clear that the author rummaged through a lot of information and tried to OBJECTIVELY evaluate the capabilities of our air defense, and he succeeded, but the fact that the new technology is not enough is not a secret, and so thanks to the Soviet designers for the longevity of our equipment with minimal maintenance costs ... if the US equipment had long ago decayed without proper maintenance, for such a time.

[Favorite]

and the fact that new equipment is not received enough is not a secret, and so thanks to the Soviet designers for the durability of our equipment with minimal maintenance costs ...

Judging by the Almaz plants commissioned this year, the rate of deliveries will increase sufficiently. Perhaps they will be in time by the 20th year.

[78bor1973]

What information and where did he go? I drive past the ALMAZ-ANTEY plant every day and see how many chassis arrive at the site of the plant, this is real information, but you don't need to go over the sites, there were also holes in the USSR air defense and Rust flew to Red Square regardless of any air defense systems, in which, then, there was no shortage!

[Crown]

I am not opposed to Almaty, the construction of new aircraft carriers, let them design and bring it to mind. In the current situation, it is better to give up all efforts to counteract massive attacks by cruise missiles and aviation. We need more than the S-400, Armor and, of course, build up aviation.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Krona

. In the current situation, it is better to give up all efforts to counter the massive raids of cruise missiles and aircraft

And it seems to me that the army should be raised in a complex, without "offending" the means of attack. For attack is the best defense.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Ingvar 72

For an attack is the best defense.

It's like that expression - "The best air defense - these are our tanks on the takeoff of the enemy"...

[Tektor]

Quote: Krona

I am not opposed to Almaty, the construction of new aircraft carriers, let them design and bring it to mind. In the current situation, it is better to give up all efforts to counteract massive attacks by cruise missiles and aviation. We need more than the S-400, Armor and, of course, build up aviation.

The points. Armata is the basis of the combat power of the ground forces: there is Armata — minimal losses of manpower of the NE, and if not, tady is understandable. We are not building aircraft carriers yet, only we are discussing them. The A100 / 50 with the Air Force and Air Defense Forces assigned to them is the most effective against the Kyrgyz Republic, the most effective of the latter being the S-350 missiles, which will begin to arrive only next year.
And the author of the article, based on materials from open sources, needs to make an adjustment to the fact that they don’t write everything in these sources. But even in them it was written that the new S-400 covers the SSBN base in Vilyuchinsk (Kamachka), and a continuous radar field is created on the basis of the Voronezh, ZGRLS Container and Sunflower radars, which cover the blind area of ​​the Container. The exact amount is unknown, approximately 10 each. A continuous radar field at the moment can only be achieved with the help of the A-50, which, in addition, need air defense drones, which can be done much more than fighters for the same means. You need to spend money rationally.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Tektor

Armata is the basis of the combat power of the ground forces: there is Armata — minimal losses of manpower of the NE, and if not, tady is understandable.

don’t you remember from whom our tank divisions suffered heavy losses in 41-42 years ???
From air attacks.
Without front-line aviation cover, air defense and electronic warfare, the same almatas will be mixed with the ground, and together with the crews.

[tema2101]

Comrades, doesn’t it seem to you that the whole article is based on the author’s conclusions.

[Bongo]

Quote: tema2101

Comrades, doesn’t it seem to you that the whole article is based on the author’s conclusions.

The article is based on information sources - a list of which is indicated.
Due to a number of restrictions, this publication has not yet included a paragraph on the state of our airfield network. In this part, the situation is also very alarming. Since the collapse of the USSR, many military airfields have been closed on the territory of the Russian Federation. Most of the existing runways need reconstruction, repair and modernization.

At the top photo is a network of military airfields of China, in lower Russia. Draw your own conclusions.

[222222]

"Until 2020, within the framework of the state armaments program, it is planned to reconstruct 47 airfields by the Spetsstroy of Russia, including the airfields of the Crimea and the Arctic. Taking into account 35 airfields that will be restored by the Air Force, and several airfields within the framework of the GPV, by 2025 more than 100 military personnel will be put in order. airfields ", - said Bondarev

To you here --- http: //www.gusda.ru/obekty/tekushchee-stroitelstvo/
Current construction:
Airfield Steppe, Trans-Baikal Territory
Airfield Volga Astrakhan region
Airfield Severomorsk-1, Murmansk region
Korenovsk, Krasnodar Territory. Air Base Construction
Airfield in Engels, Saratov Region
Training center in the city of Yeysk, Krasnodar Territory
Airfield "Chkalovsky" Moscow region
Airfield Palana, Kamchatka Territory
Airfield "Elizovo" Kamchatka Territory

Completed construction
Akhtubinsk, Astrakhan region. Runway-2 construction
Lipetsk Aviation Center
Airfield Vityazevo, Anapa. Group parking spot

"June 12, 2014

The Russian Air Force promises to modernize all military airfields in Crimea "to a first-class condition."
According to Russian Air Force Commander Viktor Bondarev, the airfields will be modernized by the end of 2014. "

[Bongo]

Quote: 222222

"Until 2020, within the framework of the state armaments program, it is planned to reconstruct 47 airfields by the Spetsstroy of Russia, including the airfields of the Crimea and the Arctic.

I want to believe in it, but in life usually happens a little differently.

Quote: 222222

Completed constructionAkhtubinsk, Astrakhan region. Runway-2 construction

I agree with that, it turned out really cool More to such strips.
But the rest, if you do not say it, most of our runways are in dire need of repair and there is still a lot of work in this direction.

[xtur]

But with Europe?
It’s not you who decides who the rival is for Russia today, but a military doctrine that points to NATO and does not point to China.

[Greenwood]

China is as much a potential rival for Russia as NATO is. I would even say much more dangerous and unpredictable than amusing European regiments.

[veksha50]

Quote: Bongo

The article is based on information sources.

Sergey, in the first Google map (cover for Moscow) you have indicated that some air defense units have been removed in the Kaluga and Vladimir-Ivanovo regions ... Strange ... In the Kaluga region there is the Kozelskaya Strategic Rocket Forces Division, recently re-equipped with YRSs, and at the junction Vladimir and Ivanovo Regions - the Teykov Division with Topol ... Yes, and Vladimir himself is still the command post of the Vladimir Rocket Army ... Who is covering them now in this case ??? These are strategic objects, without cover for them - no way ...

[Greenwood]

Yars and Poplars are not related to air defense.

[veksha50]

Quote: Greenwood

Yars and Poplars are not related to air defense.

Read again my question, how is it posed. I asked, looking at the map, where did the air defense go, covering specific missile divisions armed with Yars and Topol ... Look - they are indicated by white triangles, that is, they are removed, but this simply can not be !!!

[Bongo]

Quote: veksha50

Sergey, in the first Google map (cover for Moscow) you have indicated that some air defense units have been removed in the Kaluga and Vladimir-Ivanovo regions ... Strange ... In the Kaluga region there is the Kozelskaya Strategic Rocket Forces Division, recently re-equipped with YRSs, and at the junction Vladimir and Ivanovo Regions - the Teykov Division with Topol ... Yes, and Vladimir himself is still the command post of the Vladimir Rocket Army ... Who is covering them now in this case ??? These are strategic objects, without cover for them - no way ...

Tatyana, I have to disappoint you. This area used to be covered by numerous air defense systems. The last positions of C-300P in the Bryansk region were liquidated approximately 10 years ago. At present, this area (in the photo, which shows the former positions of air defense systems and areas of the Topol base), unfortunately, are not covered. Moreover, nearby is also the unprotected Shaykovka airfield with the Tu-22М3.

[veksha50]

Quote: Bongo

forced to disappoint you

Hmm ... This is already the work of the time of Taburetkin, because in the 80-90s it was all ...

[78bor1973]

And not all airfields in Russia are shown!

[Bongo]

Quote: 78bor1973

And not all airfields in Russia are shown!

Of course, there wasn’t such a goal. Only aerodromes where military aviation is based are shown.

[Wedmak]

Unfortunately, high-profile statements from the high stands about the revival of our Air Force and Air Defense often have little to do with reality.

And if all aki look more pragmatic - all that is needed is covered. Exercises of deployment and deployment, as well as firing of anti-aircraft systems, are held regularly. Nothing prevents in the threatened period to transfer air defense systems to the desired direction. And to protect hydropower plants and nuclear power plants in the interior of the country when there is no threat of attack, putting a number of air defense systems nearby, is not practical. Rather, it is worth guarding the nuclear power plant with ground forces, there are more chances that they will try to capture it than they will gouge it with tomahawks.
The same goes for aviation. What is the use of a regiment of the new Su-30M2 to sit in the Yakut tundra if the Black Sea has excellent training targets kindly provided by NATO?
By the way, the author forgot about SPRN. It detects EVERYTHING that flies in its area of ​​responsibility, from small Cessna to satellites in low orbit. So there is no need to place a C-300P regiment in the tundra either.
The fact that our country due to its size is not evenly covered by air defense is not a secret for anyone. Yes, that's just nobody will look for targets in the tundra and taiga.

[SteelRatTV]

In addition, who said that the Army is obliged to advertise all its capabilities?

[maxxdesign]

there is a feeling that he personally inspected all the bases, for the presence of an upgrade of weapons! ... but what about those 8 YRSs that were delivered to Novosibirsk last year? too bullshit?

[Bongo]

Quote: maxxdesign

there is a feeling that he personally inspected all the bases, for the presence of an upgrade of weapons! ... but what about those 8 YRSs that were delivered to Novosibirsk last year? too bullshit?

The article is called:"The current state of the Russian air defense system". What relation "Yars"have to Defense?

[Flinky]

Only Idiot believes in "open sources" when it comes to air defense / missile defense systems.
Minus.

[Bongo]

Quote: Flinky

Only Idiot believes in "open sources" when it comes to air defense / missile defense systems. Minus.

Only idiot believes what our media say. And you have a unique opportunity to refute the facts that are presented in the publication.

[igor36]

Dear author! Not considering myself a jingoistic patriot, I positively assess your analysis. But do you seriously think that someone is ready to fight Russia without nuclear weapons? NATO is now a stronger opponent for the Russian Federation, so I will base my estimates on the analysis of their weapons. The NATO countries are armed with several types of missile defense systems with non-nuclear equipment, with a total of up to 20 thousand (according to the open press, I counted about 16,8 thousand produced). Now the carriers of the Kyrgyz Republic are submarines -1400 KR, surface ships-2000, VVS-15000. This is pure mathematics without taking into account the compatibility of carriers and missiles. That is, it seems that they can launch everything in one gulp? But no, it is necessary to secretly transfer to the firing range, and this can be done (again, not the fact that it will not be detected) only by submarines and partially by the Air Force (V-2 and F-35), and this is 1400 + 460. Missiles with non-nuclear warheads have a maximum range of 1600 km, and most of them are up to 1000 km. From where you can start and where you will fly you can analyze yourself if interested. And the most important thing: the main thing is that as soon as the mass launch begins (the submarine will shoot rockets of the order of 10 minutes, if not more) this is already a detection, we will add the flight time to the target (all missile launchers are subsonic), so that even with the current state, both the air defense, air force and strategic missile forces will work honestly .

[Bongo]

Quote: igor36

Dear author! Not considering myself a jingoistic patriot, I positively assess your analysis.

Thank you!

Quote: igor36

But do you seriously think that someone is ready to fight Russia without nuclear weapons?

No, I don’t think so! But the number of our carriers of nuclear weapons and deployed nuclear warheads has been steadily decreasing from year to year. Also, despite recent efforts, they are aging and are not replaced in the required number of radars, air defense systems and fighters. All this is very alarming, especially in light of the failure of the State Defense Order. I am sure that VO readers have the right to know about the current state of affairs. Moreover, in addition to NATO, we are witnessing a qualitative strengthening of the armed forces of the PRC in the east

[veksha50]

Quote: Bongo

But the number of our carriers of nuclear weapons and deployed nuclear warheads is steadily decreasing from year to year.

So stop it! With all due respect to you and your article, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that this number has DECREASED until recently (yes, since the end of the 80's), but over the last 3-5 anniversary it has been STABILIZED by new submarines and new missile systems ...
So just the weapon ... we’ll say - a retaliatory strike - here, in Russia, so far is normal ... I would like more and better, but ... the pocket with finances does not allow.
And, by the way, just PVO_VKO should cover all these matters ... In general, everything is interconnected ... But not so bad compared to the past decades ...

[Bongo]

Quote: veksha50

So stop it! With all due respect to you and your article, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that this number has DECREASED until recently (yes, since the end of the 80's), but over the last 3-5 anniversary it has been STABILIZED by new submarines and new missile systems ...

Dear Tatyana, I will not argue with you, I just recommend reading the provisions of the extreme treaty with the United States on strategic offensive arms. Or you can still look here, I did this analysis about a year ago, but little has changed since then.
http://topwar.ru/39929-rossiyskie-strategicheskie-yadernye-sily-i-sredstva-pro-n
a-snimkah-google-earth.html

http://topwar.ru/39748-amerikanskie-strategicheskie-yadernye-sily-i-obekty-pro-n
a-sputnikovyh-snimkah-google-earth.html

[78bor1973]

About the disruption of the defense order, you are two years behind, but as for the aging, we have the newest complexes in comparison with the "Minuteman" who is "a hundred years old at lunchtime", and I doubt that the states have something in the "store"!

[paul72]

Do you have access to closed sources?
The following request is to share information from these sources with site visitors.
I believe you will smash the arguments of the author of the article to smithereens.

[feniks]

I hope for the incumbent Minister of Defense S. Shoigu. A serious man. And our media is less likely to engage in chatter. The liberal government of Medvedev will be driven by a filthy broom, they inhibit the rearmament of the Russian army.

[Favorite]

As for unprotected nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power stations - this is a lie. They are protected, if not in the first, then in the second place. There are gaps, but the main strategic objects are covered, that's for sure (including all cities with a population of over one million),
Yes, the S-300PS were put into service in the 82nd, were produced before the beginning of the 90s, and were planned to be repaired after 25 years, the service life was extended by 10 years, to which year it is not difficult to calculate. I’ll tell you more, I serve normally now on the S-300PT. A rotation occurs, new air defense systems replace the old ones, and they cover less important objects.
About the Arctic and RTV I will not spread, but also not entirely correct information.
I completely agree with the author, in the sense that many overestimate the capabilities of our air defense and missile defense, but, unfortunately, he was too carried away in exposing it.

[Bongo]

Quote: Favorite

As for unprotected nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power stations - this is a lie. They are protected, if not in the first, then in the second place.

Are ALL protected? You are a big dreamer

Quote: Favorite

Yes, C-300PS were adopted by the 82, were produced before the start of the 90, and were scheduled to be repaired after 25 years, the service life was extended by 10 years, to which year it is not difficult to calculate.

Only a small part was repaired.

Quote: Favorite

I serve normally now and with s-300PT

Did they even stay with us? According to my information, they are available only at storage bases. If the S-300PTs are still in the army, then everything is sadder than I thought. The latter stood near Novosibirsk and Severodvinsk, but in 2014 they were to be sent "for storage."

Quote: Favorite

I completely agree with the author, in the sense that many overestimate the capabilities of our air defense and missile defense, but, unfortunately, he was too carried away in exposing it.

Can you please be more specific?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Favorite

As for unprotected nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power stations - this is a lie

Zhigulevskaya hydroelectric power station - there used to be rocket launchers in the forest, now part of it has been withdrawn. In the area of ​​the Volga cliff, a part remained, but this is not a panacea.

[Bongo]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Zhigulevskaya hydroelectric power station - there used to be rocket launchers in the forest, now part of it has been withdrawn. In the area of ​​the Volga cliff, a part remained, but this is not a panacea.

Igor, here you are not quite right, the number of air defense systems in this area has really sharply decreased since Soviet times. In the Zhigulevsk area, the old S-75 air defense systems were eliminated. But in the area of ​​Volzhsky and Novy Buyan, C-300PS remained.
In the photo, the position of C-300PS in the area of ​​New Buyan

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Bongo

Zhigulevsk area eliminated old S-75 air defense systems

Greetings Sergey! We have air defense systems were still in the area of ​​Zelenovka, now they are not. What exactly stood there - I do not know, but there were definitely anti-aircraft gunners.

[Bongo]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Greetings Sergey! We have air defense systems were still in the area of ​​Zelenovka, now they are not. What exactly stood there - I do not know, but there were definitely anti-aircraft gunners.

Igor, you can take a look at your area yourself. Red triangles and squares are the "active" positions of the SAM. White is already eliminated. In the Bobrovka area there is a radar station and an airfield.

[Ingvar 72]

Thank! On the map next to the inscription Zolnoy (on the left), the white triangle in the forest is just Zelenovka. The hydroelectric station itself is not covered. It is indefinitely not covered, for in the event of destruction Samara will suffer the fate of Atlantis.

[Bongo]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Thank! On the map next to the inscription Zolnoy (on the left), the white triangle in the forest is just Zelenovka. The hydroelectric station itself is not covered. It is indefinitely not covered, for in the event of destruction Samara will suffer the fate of Atlantis.

You are welcome! S-300PS even with the old 5В55Р missiles can hit targets at ranges up to 90 km. If you measure the distance with a ruler, but in Google Earth there is such a function - it turns out that the hydroelectric station itself is covered. Nevertheless, your concern, I share.

[veksha50]

Sergey, I was very respectful of your work-article, but I want to insert my five cents from the point of view of a strategist (not a commander, but a former Strategic Rocket Officer0 ...

Quote: Bongo

the number of air defense systems in this area since Soviet times has really sharply decreased.

But is it necessary now to protect each hydroelectric power station by and large ??? If it would occur to some crazy person to start a war against such a huge country as Russia, with its nuclear weapons, then it would be enough to destroy the strategic missile forces position areas, nuclear submarines, Engels airfield (and where there are still strategists) - and, of course, turn into pit Moscow as a center of military-political leadership ... And you do not need to bomb large industrial cities ...

So, it seems to me that in today's conditions the leadership is trying to cover up these points first of all ... And this is a sensible act in the current economic situation

[vitalm]

And for example, the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power station what is covered? Near in the village of Ermakovskoye only a radar company is located and that’s all. Kansk and Achinsk are far away.
God forbid she slam it - 3 million people are guaranteed

[Alekst]

Quote: jarome

The most probable beginning is just such, in the Western spirit.
At night, without warning, a massive raid is an attack with so many missiles and carriers that the air defense will need to work at random. Therefore, I agree in something. Aircraft carriers, Mistral are less preferable.
Most importantly, I believe that there are now those who will think about it in the first place, and not about cutting the dough and constructing dacha-palaces by conscripts.

Sorry, but this is paranoia, firstly the NATO resource is not so powerful that without concentrating certain forces in a certain area they could deliver a sudden blow, and secondly, at the site of the NATO hawks, I thought that in response to such a strike I wouldn’t get a retaliatory strike, but with nuclear weapons, thirdly, look at the map and try to identify these areas where they can concentrate forces and means for a surprise strike.

[Nitarius]

author Plus .... recently he was engaged in the installation of our radar.
honestly, I’ve never done anything like that before. and was deeply surprised, to say the least! The mess in our factory was enough!
A bunch of parasites and contractors. A big lack of coordination.
at the Factories - a bunch of small sticky, lured friends stuck.
EXAMPLE: before that, the factory produced their engraving washers. they said it was not profitable in the end they started to buy cheap Chinese, of such disgusting quality — that you have to shoot for such a lot of import ... WHY they don’t put their own, I THINK a question for the FSB ... they really have their own, but grandmas and greed are doing their job.
The inertia of the PLANTS is very large. As I understand it, this mess is not only with us .. BEYOND THE BURGTER no less, judging by the description of friends.

But on the other hand, I understand the leaders ..... WHILE one is being developed IT is already OUTDATING, which was relevant in the MID-2000s, now it is OUTDATED.
with regards to aircraft and their radar.

But the fact that the author writes unfortunately and fortunately a reality. I think he is not the only one who knows about it. and know at the top.
But you need to do ... DO NOT lower your hands.
Yelling that everything was gone ... well, this is no use and the equipment will not appear.
Anyway, the equipment in the factories needs to be changed .... the equipment needs to be prepared to replace what really can be repaired - to do it, the rest should be scrapped or sold to the MUSEUMS or to businessmen ... let people roll into the STRATOSPHERE for grandmas!
good luck to the factories in the construction of a new

[Tuzik]

and the fleet? It also performs the functions of air defense.

[bekfaer96]

the fleet has its own air defense missions - this is to cover the naval grouping of ships, which in turn should neutralize potential carriers of strike weapons, although not everywhere, for example, in the Black Sea air defense the fleet is quite capable of repelling attack means here, but it is too early to talk about this, there is a build-up of forces and the funds of the KChF, the missile cruiser "Moskva" sounds menacing, of course, but he is alone at the KChF, we are waiting for replenishment, then it will be possible to say with certainty that the south is covered, especially since the Middle-earth is gradually opening up for the Russian fleet

[Takashi]

The author correctly noted that our defense of air defense has a point-like character.
The main million-plus cities are closed, closed.

Objects of nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power stations in doubt. For example, a regiment in Achinsk covers Krasnoyarsk and Zheleznodorozhny, but at the same time it is not able to close the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric station (distance in a straight line 388 km)

In the event of a local military conflict, when the enemy dominates in the air, the transfer from one region to another air defense system will be clearly problematic.

And what about the early warning system. "It detects EVERYTHING that flies in its area of ​​responsibility, from small Cessna to satellites in low orbit.“Unfortunately, it does not detect everything. There is nothing more beyond Irkutsk.

By the way, about the new Su-35S - recently there was an article in the press that it was precisely because of the "raw" 35S, which turned out to be worse than the 30s, that served as the resignation of the general director of UAC Poghosyan.

[Bongo]

Quote: Takashi

By the way, about the new Su-35S - recently there was an article in the press that it was precisely because of the "raw" 35S, which turned out to be worse than the 30s, that served as the resignation of the general director of UAC Poghosyan.

Eugene, you seem to be working on an aircraft in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, who should know if not for you?

[lonovila]

-And where did the beautiful SU-37 go? ..? -What happened ... -For some reason everywhere they praise and constantly try to form an opinion in favor of the SU-35S ...
-Because the SU-37 is just a unique aircraft ... -Americans were afraid of him (and are afraid) like fire ... -And where did he disappear ...? -And on whose orders did the SU-37 not enter the armament of our Air Force ..? -It is obvious that the Russian defense system also has its own "Chubais-saboteurs" ...

[1-ST Engineer]

The article is good, but a lot of missing roofing felts because of their ignorance of roofing felts on purpose ... Aviation is written off only when a new one arrives and until then it is preserved - like tanks ... because even a whatnot is dangerous in a war ... And there’s no reason to keep so many divisions in few crowded places where there is a production with a gulkin nose ... And most importantly, the defense industry does not get stuck in place but goes ahead ... The point is to start powerful production of some systems if more modern models are already replacing them ... Well, let's rivet s-400 and then we will remove them and c-500 and so on ... Yes, no one has enough budget ...

[Bongo]

Quote: 1-ST Engineer

The article is good, but a lot of missing roofing felts due to the lack of knowledge of roofing felts specially ...

Of course, you cannot write about everything, at least if it is not reflected in the "open sources", I do not want to fall under the law on the State Secret.

Quote: 1-ST Engineer

Aviation is debited only when a new one arrives, and until that time, it has been mothballed.

You have seen in what conditions our aircraft are "stored". I have seen it more than once ... in a couple of years they can no longer rise into the air.

Quote: 1-ST Engineer

And there is no need to keep such a number of divisions in few crowded places where there is production with a gulkin nose.

If only this were so ... unfortunately, even that which is urgently needed to be covered up is undisguised.

Quote: 1-ST Engineer

Well, let's rivet c-400 and then we will remove them and rivet c-500 and so on ... Yes, there’s not enough budget for anyone ...

This would be partly true if the C-500 were adopted and cost-effective. In addition, these complexes of one of which do not yet have slightly different tasks.

[sevtrash]

The great and mighty holes were, now. I think that the real picture at headquarters is well known. Everything is determined by the state of the economy, and of course, but again, by the scale of the cut / theft.

[twin22]

sevtrash
Everything is determined by the state of the economy, and of course, but again, by the scale of the cut / theft.

Secondary? Governor Khoroshavin alone stole as much as the "Admiral Grigorovich" cost.
And how many joint ventures .... did they attend at APEC summits, at construction sites of the cosmodrome and Olympic facilities? For that money, you can arm yourself to the teeth :)

[crambol]

IMHO, the article should be published on Echo. They like those there.

[Bongo]

Quote: crambol

IMHO, the article should be published on Echo. They like those there.

Can you refute the content of the publication with the facts? Or the ability to shout "URYA", where there is no sign of love for the Motherland?

[crambol]

- Amiable Bongo! After all, the site is military-patriotic!

[Greenwood]

Those. all articles on the site should be in the spirit of "all we will break" ?!

[xtur]

> Can you refute the content of the publication with the facts?

and what is there to refute? where are the sources of information?


> Sources of information:
> http://rbase.new-factoria.ru
> http://bmpd.livejournal.com
> http://geimint.blogspot.ru

would write easier - the Internet, it would be with the same degree of persuasiveness.

Each statement should have a specific link - for example, the bmpd blog posts several articles every day, in the discussion of each of which, as a rule, there are usually several dozen comments. With such a reference system, it is impossible to verify the accuracy of any given figures.
It’s clear that the article’s volume is limited, but at least some of the most important statements had to be supported by clickable links

[nezabor]

Quote: xtur

and what is there to refute? where are the sources of information?

What do you want? An article about something else ...
no author, you did not convince me about what kind of factologist are you

[runway]

The author is "in the subject".
Therefore, I read this article with benefit for myself.
The problem of the country's air defense, unfortunately, is as old as this world .... The seven nannies have a child without an eye .... Wherever our "wise" leaders did not push air defense. Either in the Air Force, or in the army commanders .... About the basic system that finally finished off the ground air defense structure, the site has already said. Now we are trying to restore what we have destroyed ...
I am sure that I was not the only one waiting for the complete execution of the State Defense Order for 2014. And how could it be otherwise - "After all, the CHIEF ORDERED!" But as it turned out, the Sun does not rise by his order. The state defense order for 2014 IS NOT FULFILLED AGAIN! Strange as it may sound, but the fall in the ruble exchange rate by half, by the same amount has reduced the purchases (from us!) Of equipment and weapons ...
At a recent meeting between the Chief, Shoigu and Siluanov, they began to divide the "holy cow" - the Military budget. Did they tell you something completely different?
Pensions for military pensioners, which by law must be indexed from January 1 of each year, have already been "forgiven". Well, we went through some points at the same time ...
PS Speak money for new weapons in the budget? Maybe in the budget, at this rate of theft and not. But if you “scrape on the bottom”, as the leader said when talking with his friend, three billion dollars were immediately found. And if you also shake it? Not only can the country's air defense be recreated, but there will still be a dozen aircraft carriers ...

[loaln]

No, the article is somehow incomprehensible. Air defense countries that rotting sackcloth. Explicitly misleading. After all, on the part of the authorities, there are no claims to the board after the 90s. Everything is in openwork. All did everything only for the good of the country. And everyone is so fluffy that there are no words ... emotion.
So all this is a slander.
And remember. Until the culprits of this or that consequence are identified, talking about the state of affairs is either posturing or hypocrisy.

[aviamed90]

loaln

"Until the perpetrators of this or that consequence are named, talking about the state of affairs is either posturing or hypocrisy."

It's just statement of fact.
The author accessible and as informative as possible covered the topic: in what state are our air defense at a given time.

And to determine the culprits of the consequences, there is a court.

[veksha50]

Information that everything is not right with the air defense of our country is accessible to the minds of any person with a military education, and even civilians, so such a review article in a decadent style was written in vain ...

Firstly, and during the Soviet era, not everything was so smooth. The main reason is spaces, gigantic territorial spaces ...
Then - the army began to be killed not in the 90s, as many believe, but in the 80s, with the advent of Gorbachev ... Those forum users who are already in age should remember very well how this was done ...
Further - for almost 30 years (80-90-2000-ies), everything continued to fall apart, both the country and the army ... And only now the state is taking decisive measures to restore the army, aviation and navy and their rearmament ...
Now there is no money and no time to solve those problems that the author writes about overnight ... However, they are being solved !!! Let it be tight, with a creak, but decide !!! If this had not happened, then all this western shobla would not have attacked us so fiercely !!!

Well, and a summary: even a small North Korea is opposed to the Yankees, and the States do not touch it by and large ... So is Russia really weaker than North Korea ??? Is it really so all gone ???

[Greenwood]

Quote: veksha50

small North Korea is opposed to the Yankees, and the States by and large do not touch it

North Korea does not affect the interests of the United States, and therefore it does not touch. In addition, the presence of countries like North Korea with an odious dictator in power and a rather impressive army is a good reason to justify the exorbitant costs of the army to taxpayers.

[Bongo]

Quote: veksha50

Well, and a summary: even a small North Korea is opposed to the Yankees, and the States do not touch it by and large ... So is Russia really weaker than North Korea ??? Is it really so all gone ???

And who needs the DPRK? At the very least, it is naive to compare this country with Russia. What is there of those resources that our country possesses? You are sure that if there were significant reserves of oil and gas (uranium, rare earth or precious metals), the DPRK would no longer undergo "democratization." Do you really think that the DPRK will be able to resist the united South Korean-American group for a long time. And since all this is not there, and there is no point in contacting them, as they say - our own dear.

[Gsxr1300rr]

When I lived in Nakhodka (~ five km from the position of the air defense system in the photo), we went to the beach (Tungus) and the hills surrounding it. It was surprising that at the heights surrounding that battery, you can safely climb, the distance to the battery is 1-2 km, it’s all there, the bunkers are abandoned, the position is excellent. And if saboteurs, shelling ?, they are in full view, who served in the air defense tell me, is this normal?

[Bongo]

Quote: Gsxr1300rr

It was surprising that at the heights surrounding that battery, you can safely climb, the distance to the 1-2 battery is just km, the bunkers are abandoned, the position is excellent. And if saboteurs, shelling ?, they are in full view, who served in the air defense tell me, is this normal?

Much is connected with the specific relief in this part of Primorye. On the other hand, the S-300PS that are in the "Golden Valley" is not so easy to see. In any case, during the "special period", the S-300 and S-400 air defense systems will be relocated to reserve positions, the location of which is kept secret.

[lankrus]

Thanks to the author for the article. Let there be a bitter truth, because it helps to correct the situation and win, and not a laudatory sweet lie. IMHO. Hooray patriotism is a muzzle shut to people who point out flaws compare betrayal.

[Fantazer911]

What amazes me is how we, that is, the author, as if conducting an analysis, acting as an expert, spreads all the information and conducting the analysis on public display.
Although we are all going to cheer patriots, etc., and the couch generals and statues I want to speak up but I will not say anything. We all know that all the information about the state of our troops is known to the enemy, and here the analyst gives such a gift with his information collected in one piece and here you are ready to analyze the information, but let yourself pick it yourself you know that the same CIA collect all the information in nete such arguing couch strategists that patriots do not cheer but can actually go to the base to take a couple of shots, talk to old friends close to the body and that's it, and why send spies to Russia if there are such patriots who are ready to show off with oimi knowledge about the state of our Armed Forces and to put in there? I don’t need to shine my knowledge and put it on public display even though it is already the media.
An anecdote in the subject.
Grandfather comes to the doctor and says, the doctor I have a problem. well there. Well, it’s not worth it, and I would like, as it were. the doctor says that he won’t say that he’s probably under 80 years old. Yes, the grandfather says. you see, the doctor says you yourself understand perfectly YES, but I have a neighbor. and he’s 85 and he says that there’s nothing else but oh-hoo.
The doctor thought and said so you say.
Hope the meaning is clear.
Thank you, you can minus as much as you wish.

[Bongo]

Quote: Fantazer911

What amazes me is how we, that is, the author, as if conducting an analysis, acting as an expert, spreads all the information and conducting the analysis on public display.

If you want to be in the "sweet ignorance" - then this is your business and such publications are not for YOU.

Quote: Fantazer911

you yourself know that the same CIA collects all the info in net from such arguing sofa strategists who are not patriots but can really go to the base to take a couple of shots

What secret did you see here? Most of the information is taken from English-language sites. I am sure our "potential partners" will not learn anything new from this publication. In addition, the US CIA is engaged in somewhat different issues, but not if not the air defense of the Russian Federation.

Quote: Fantazer911

no matter how bad it is, you should not shine with your knowledge and put it on public display, even though it is already the media

And you can read a lot in our media about the real state of affairs?
As for the secrets, I deliberately did not cite the forums of the air defense specialists and indicate them as sources. This is where the "storehouse of information" really lies for foreign intelligence services.

[sevtrash]

I am sure that the potential adversary knows much more about the state of affairs than is stated in this article. I even think absolutely everything, including the menu in the dining room a few days in advance, the commander’s preferences regarding food and staff training. And it is quite possible - the performance characteristics of promising complexes that are not yet in development.

[Greenwood]

I agree that the "potential partners" have long known the location of all the smallest military facilities on the territory of Russia, and no forums will open anything new for them.

[Bug]

I have known all this for a long time ... in fact, Russia is defenseless against an air attack ... only a nuclear club should deter our damned enemies ....

[aviamed90]

Bug

A very sensible thought obtained as a result of the analysis of facts.

[bekfaer96]

Do you see Seryoga as though she were not rich and patriotic of the Russian Federation today, in addition to air defense it is necessary to solve other tasks, for example, Crimea, the restoration of the military structure in Crimea after the destructive economy of stolen goods requires a lot of infusion, and even more so this is the most strategically important issue,

[Greenwood]

Military infrastructure needs to be restored throughout Russia after a 20-year-old defeat arranged by the Democrats. We have hundreds of abandoned airfields and military units throughout the country.

[Dwarfik]

Apparently in open sources there are comprehensive data on the state of the air defense .... I would not categorically take the information about such a "disastrous" state of affairs.

[dfqz9f]

The author of the article is largely right. We must tighten our belts and work tirelessly day and night.
Russia has only three true friends:
ARMY, Navy, Air Force.
Sincerely, Soviet Air Defense Officer.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Flinky

Only Idiot believes in "open sources" when it comes to air defense / missile defense systems.
Minus.

I agree. Yelling based on open sources "Mustache is gone, boss!" stupid.
And to try to impose a discussion on a public site on this topic ...
Not everything is as bad as we would like.

[voyaka uh]

PV Defense is the last line of defense. Which would be good
she was not, with a massive air raid she can not cope.
Need air supremacy. Many, many fighters.
So modern fighters are very expensive, the only one
the way to create quantity and not go broke financially is to drive
per stream is the only type of fighter in parallel at several plants.
A fighter with land-based capabilities is also desirable (to save).
Decide: either Su-, or Mig- or PAK, but do a lot of them.
The same. With the same spare parts and the same repair
sites. Production is mandatory at several plants.
(what will happen if the KR, fire or sabotage closes the only
manufacturing plant?).

[Fantazer911]

Quote: Bongo

Quote: Fantazer911

What amazes me is how we, that is, the author, as if conducting an analysis, acting as an expert, spreads all the information and conducting the analysis on public display.

If you want to be in the "sweet ignorance" - then this is your business and such publications are not for YOU.

Quote: Fantazer911

you yourself know that the same CIA collects all the info in net from such arguing sofa strategists who are not patriots but can really go to the base to take a couple of shots

What secret did you see here? Most of the information is taken from English-language sites. I am sure our "potential partners" will not learn anything new from this publication. In addition, the US CIA is engaged in somewhat different issues, but not if not the air defense of the Russian Federation.

Quote: Fantazer911

no matter how bad it is, you should not shine with your knowledge and put it on public display, even though it is already the media

And you can read a lot in our media about the real state of affairs?
As for the secrets, I deliberately did not cite the forums of the air defense specialists and indicate them as sources. This is where the "storehouse of information" really lies for foreign intelligence services.

So, in your opinion, is it better to immediately get the upper hand? or is it worth killing the hope that we, although not strong, can be given in the teeth? this is the meaning of the homeland and patriotism. do you have a sense that if you and a patriot then you can cut it in the bud? Well, if something then, like the Americans, we’ll talk about who and for what shed blood?

[Greenwood]

We need to really approach life and objectively assess the country's capabilities and the state of its economy and army, and not hover in the clouds and hang noodles on the ears of the country's population about "how everything is fine with us and how we will win all", while there are colossal Problems.

[fan1945]

The article is interesting and sad. You can’t see the main way out. There is nobody to do ...
In principle, there was a proposal to transfer to the Chinese, so that they "spit" us how much. Production should be restored. But if for the production of aircraft and
missiles (and other military equipment), without pants we’ll still remain ...
Looks like EVERYTHING needs to be rebuilt ... But notebook ury patriots ... sorry for them. If God wants to punish, he deprives ... of the ability to analyze For the article definitely PLUS.

[smoke break]

I read and frenzy what publicity we have, it seems that the law on state secrets and article 283 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ceased to apply for disclosure !!!

[2nd 12th]

The analysis carried out in the article is interesting. It is good that the author does not stick out the problem, but simply states the facts.
But any analyzes have (most likely) an "error rate". There, on the map in "my" area, there is an air defense unit taken off duty. Well, on the surface, I would not say so categorically that it is "removed".

[Bongo]

Quote: 2-th12-th

There, on the map in "my" area, there is an air defense unit taken off duty. Well, on the surface, I would not say so categorically that it is "removed".

Write where - I'll take off the satellite image.

[axius]

I’m sure that the same situation is in the submarine fleet ((((Serdyukova and Vasilyeva would be sent to dance for the Urals, to logging ...

[Inok10]

... hodgepodge and all-food .. minus .. reasoning level deputy. battery commander of an anti-aircraft missile regiment of a motorized rifle division .. this author knows about air defense only from the pictures that he provided us so colorfully, probably learned from Ms. Psaki, who so regularly shows such pictures and extracts from social networks as evidence of the presence of Russian armed forces forces in the East of Ukraine .. brrr ..

[gregor6549]

The article, of course, does not cause much optimism, but the reality is even harsher than that described in the article.
Let's start with the fact that the task of creating a continuous radar field over the territory of Russia in the interests of air defense was impracticable even during the so-called. "the heyday of stagnation", when things were much better with money, personnel and production capacity than they are now. Therefore, the aircraft of the MIG31 type and the AWACS and U aircraft were developed in order to somehow plug the holes in this field.
The available radar missile defense radars did little to solve these problems then and are unlikely to help now because were sharpened by the detection and tracking of ballistic targets (BR, etc.) but not aerodynamic targets capable of flying at low altitudes.
The author of the article also did not mention the state of affairs with anti-aircraft missile defense systems without which, in modern conditions, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to ensure coordinated control of air defense forces and means. And the state of affairs in this area is even more deplorable than with air defense systems.
In the part of air defense aviation, things are also not going quite as they should have been. In particular, the widely advertised T50 and SU35 were successfully brought by t Poghosyan to the state of "doves of peace", i.e. beautifully looking at exhibitions and demonstration flights, but so far few capable of fighting against a potential enemy. Read more in a recent article by Olga Bozheva from Moskovsky Komsomolets. When these peaceful birds will become truly fighting falcons, only God knows. The main reasons for this situation: the transformation of the country's military budget into a feeding trough for individual business leaders and their patrons in the Ministry of Defense

[hudjuk]

Quote: gregor6549

gregor6549 (1) Today, 15:02 ↓
The article, of course, does not cause much optimism, but the reality is even harsher than that described in the article.

I absolutely agree with you! I saw Khotilovo with my own eyes — I want to cry ... in Bezhetsk about the same thing ... we had removed the c300 with c22 from our city - although before that they had been in the same place for several years. Migalovo, Seshcha (off topic a bit, but), for my classmates (who have long been all major majors), you ask: HOW IT AT ALL- one mate in return (but at least they pay money) Yes, they began to fly more often -BUT FLY ON OLD !!! NEW somewhere out there ... But here in Migalovo we are flying the only working AH XNUMX)))))))) it’s very sad that’s all ... I apologize for the confusion ...

[ausmel]

as of 2014, 10 divisions were delivered to the troops

give the person the Wikipedia address, let him read it before his nonsense, maybe they will put their brains in place at the sofa warriors

[zyablik.olga]

Quote: ausmel

give the person the Wikipedia address, let him read it before his nonsense, maybe they will put their brains in place at the sofa warriors

Sofa warriors just get information from Wikipedia.

[almamatkulov. 79]

I can’t figure it out: who puts the cons - who didn’t like the article or who is afraid to face the truth?

[igor36]

Quote: almamatkulov.79

who puts minuses - who did not like the article or who is afraid to face the truth?

The one who soars in the clouds.
But if we analyze the US air defense (http://topwar.ru/31354-protivovozdushnaya-oborona-ssha.html), it turns out that the US territory is protected only by aviation, with the exception of several air bases and the capital. They are not afraid of attack because they always attack themselves.

[Bongo]

Quote: igor36

But if we analyze the US air defense (http://topwar.ru/31354-protivovozdushnaya-oborona-ssha.html), it turns out that the US territory is protected only by aviation, with the exception of several air bases and the capital. They are not afraid of attack because they always attack themselves.

Thanks! Strange as it may seem, in the comments to my article about the US air defense, there was not so much "shit". Apparently to read that the "potential partner" is not going smoothly in this area "Uryalka" is not offended.

[VladimS]

And no one promised that the truth would be sweet ...
And "washing dirty linen in public" is not the most pleasant thing, but if you don't, you will have to live up to your ears in mud
Stop copying the habits of ostriches - now this is already too expensive a pleasure.

Well, what the hell is the truth here for you?
Nadergano from open sources, the author himself points out that ...
Are funny. Did the Australian military tell you ..?
Even the highest military ranks (not everyone should know), not all in-courses: what, where and in what quantity we have in the cache, on the base or on duty. Not to mention the intensity and service schedules of mobile complexes, etc., etc.
I am against capcommers in any manifestations, but also to make thoughtful materials with a pretension to meticulousness and objectivity .., couch strategists like something not for Senka - a hat .. Not that level of awareness.
And that's it.

[Athanasius 60]

It is very bad that the highest ranks, which are supposed to know, and most importantly, understand how the air defense works, countries do not possess this knowledge.
Previously, options were considered: http://old.nasledie.ru/oboz/N12_97/12_21.HTM, but now they just reconciled.

[Inok10]

Quote: VladimS

And no one promised that the truth would be sweet ...
And "washing dirty linen in public" is not the most pleasant thing, but if you don't, you will have to live up to your ears in mud
Stop copying the habits of ostriches - now this is already too expensive a pleasure.

Well, what the hell is the truth here for you?
Nadergano from open sources, the author himself points out that ...
Are funny. Did the Australian military tell you ..?
Even the highest military ranks (not everyone should know), not all in-courses: what, where and in what quantity we have in the cache, on the base or on duty. Not to mention the intensity and service schedules of mobile complexes, etc., etc.
I am against capcommers in any manifestations, but also to make thoughtful materials with a pretension to meticulousness and objectivity .., couch strategists like something not for Senka - a hat .. Not that level of awareness.
And that's it.

.. plus to what you said, which I wrote earlier about .. by an amateur and a sharpie ..

[Matsuda Kabushiki]

This site should be added to the sources of information: http://www.sdelanounas.ru/, there are a lot of interesting things. It is also surprising that the author did not use Ukrainian sites. The article is interesting, but somehow doomed.

[Aleksandr72]

I have slightly different information about air defense (we don’t fly ourselves and don’t give others):
Air Defense Forces
1st, 5th air defense corps (12 anti-aircraft missile air defense divisions): 37 anti-aircraft missile air regiments, 9 radio technical regiments, 14 radio technical battalions.
In service: PU SAM: (1.940) 1.876 S-300 of various modifications, 64 S-400.
fighter aircraft (all not only pure air defense, but excluding fighter-bombers) :( total - 725) 226 Mig-29, 281 Su-27, 218 Mig-31M. How many of them are in service, and how many are in reserve in the source is not indicated.
Aircraft AWACS: (20) A-50
Military air defense (only ground forces):
ZSU: (1756) 1.500 - ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", 256 - 2S6M "Tunguska"
Anti-aircraft guns: (900) 400 - ZU-23-2, 500 - S-60,
(storage: (4100 - 61K, B-47, KS-19, KS-30)
PU SAM: (1320) 50 - 9K31 "Strela" -1, 350 - 9K35 "Strela" -10, 400 - 9A33 "Osa", 120 - 9K330 / 9K331 "Tor" / "Tor" M-1, 350 9K37 / 9K313 Buk, 50 S-300V
PU MANPADS: (6006+) 1000 - 9K32M Strela -2M, 1770 - 9K34 Strela-3, 3236 - 9K310 Igla -1, 9K38 Igla, 9K338 Igla-S / Dzhigit
Again, for the reliability of the numbers, where more than one zero, I can not vouch. Although these data are from the report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the state of the Russian army in 2014. Again, regarding the combat effectiveness of the equipment stored, I believe that no one will build any illusions.
I would like to hope that common sense prevails over the base instincts of dubious economy, and the Su-27 with the MiG-31 will not be sawn into needles (at least until they are replaced with new equipment).
I have the honor.

[Radical]

Quote: Alexander72

I have slightly different information about air defense (we don’t fly ourselves and don’t give others):
Air Defense Forces
1st, 5th air defense corps (12 anti-aircraft missile air defense divisions): 37 anti-aircraft missile air regiments, 9 radio technical regiments, 14 radio technical battalions.
In service: PU SAM: (1.940) 1.876 S-300 of various modifications, 64 S-400.
fighter aircraft (all not only pure air defense, but excluding fighter-bombers) :( total - 725) 226 Mig-29, 281 Su-27, 218 Mig-31M. How many of them are in service, and how many are in reserve in the source is not indicated.
Aircraft AWACS: (20) A-50
Military air defense (only ground forces):
ZSU: (1756) 1.500 - ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", 256 - 2S6M "Tunguska"
Anti-aircraft guns: (900) 400 - ZU-23-2, 500 - S-60,
(storage: (4100 - 61K, B-47, KS-19, KS-30)
PU SAM: (1320) 50 - 9K31 "Strela" -1, 350 - 9K35 "Strela" -10, 400 - 9A33 "Osa", 120 - 9K330 / 9K331 "Tor" / "Tor" M-1, 350 9K37 / 9K313 Buk, 50 S-300V
PU MANPADS: (6006+) 1000 - 9K32M Strela -2M, 1770 - 9K34 Strela-3, 3236 - 9K310 Igla -1, 9K38 Igla, 9K338 Igla-S / Dzhigit
Again, for the reliability of the numbers, where more than one zero, I can not vouch. Although these data are from the report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the state of the Russian army in 2014. Again, regarding the combat effectiveness of the equipment stored, I believe that no one will build any illusions.
I would like to hope that common sense prevails over the base instincts of dubious economy, and the Su-27 with the MiG-31 will not be sawn into needles (at least until they are replaced with new equipment).
I have the honor.

Everything is correct, before removing any unit from the combat composition, you must first put in the troops the same modern one. and in our country in recent years, only "sawed on needles" ships and airplanes, not compensating on a one-to-one basis!

[Inok10]

F-22 Raptor vs C300V.
The subtle pride of the US Air Force somewhere in the European part of the Russian Federation includes a radar and ...
0 seconds Turn on radar.
+ 5 sec. The nearest "Kolchuga": "The source of the PShS, EIIM is taken for escort:
*** watt, median: *** GHz, range: *** meters, azimuth: *** elevation: ***
The signatures are being calculated "
+20 sec. "Kolchuga": Signature analysis results are ready. With a probability of 78%, the source is an AN / APG77 product manufactured by Tuches Instrument. Individual signature is not correlated - PTP data archive is empty.
+25 sec "Baikal": The object is queued for a "chime", divisions NN, MM and KK - to perform, "four sweeps", in turn ...
+25,2 sec territorial 5N36-e (chorus) - "acknowledged"
+45 sec they are: "small-sized blood pressure NLC, trace information is attached"
+50 sec "Baikal" - to the military 9C457: "Neighbor, help me, there is a complicated guy here, he can bite, but you seem to be more powerful, and even stronger ..."
+50,2 sec 9С457: "quit"
+50,4 sec "Baikal": NN, MM and KK, we check the route every 15 sec, in turn.
+2 min "Baikal" - to the military 9С457: "the specified route - here it is, it's yours"
+ 2 min 0,2 sec, military 9S457: "quit"
+ 2 min 0,4 sec 9С457 - "Ginger": "keep the track, check and drive" on the aisle ""
+ 2 min 0,4 sec 9С457 - attached to "Newspapers", 9С32 and 9А83: "Getting ready"
+ 2 min 15 sec 9А83: "TPK 1 and 2 - ready"
+ 2 min 30 sec. "Ginger": "the track is confirmed, 9С32 is in sync, while" dry ", the range seems to allow"
+ 2 min 31 sec 9С457 - 9С32: "drive, duty cycle - four, refined coordinates - 9А83rd"
+ 2 min 32 sec AN / ALR-944: "Warning! SA-12 Giant in standby mode detected!"
+ 2 min 35 sec 9А83: "coordinates are valid, SOC is ready"
+ 2 min 36 sec 9С457 - 9А83rd: "double start, inertial, while without illumination".
+ 2 min 37 sec 9А83: "first went"
+ 2 min 38 sec 9А83: "the second went"
+ 2 min 50 sec 9M83 No. 1: "the first stage is everything"
+ 2 min 51 sec 9M83 No. 2: "the first stage is everything"
+ 3 min 9С457 - 9С32: "prepare a correction, the duty cycle is one, five seconds, then - again by a quarter"
+ 3 min 01 sec AN / ALR-944: "Warning! SA-12 Giant burst scan detected! Launch probable!"
+ 3 min 05 sec 1Lt John Doe: "Kill'em all, baby! Two JDAMs, please ..."
+ 3 min 10 sec 9С32 - 9М83-m: "second stage - ignition, accept correction"
+ 3 min 12 sec, "Ginger" - 9С457: "Oh, b ... it shoots! And, apparently, - at us!"
+ 3 min 13 sec 9С457: "The newspapermen - to work, 9С32 and 9А83 - to endure, the rest - 500 meters back!"
+ 3 min 40 sec: 9С32-9А83: "There are 20 km left, they are yours, and I will eat ..."
+ 3 min 46 sec 9А83: "SPC - backlight!"
+ 3 min 47 sec AN / ALR-944: "Alarm! Alarm! Tracking detected! Chaff released!"
+ 3 min 48 sec 1Lt John Doe: "O, holy shit!"
+ 3 min 49 sec 9M83 # 1: "BOOM-M!"
+ 3 min 50 sec 9M83 # 2: "BOOM-M!"
+ 3 min 51 sec 9А83: "Ffuh! The deed is done, but what am I, a fool to stand alone in an open field? Eat ... quickly!"
+ 3 min 55 sec 5N36 division NN: "I fix a volumetric fixed target with zero Doppler in coordinates ***, ***, ***. The track of the tracked NLC is empty."
+ 4 min 30 sec JDAM # 1: "BOOM-M! Inflatable 36D6 has been successfully hit!"
+ 4 min 30 sec JDAM # 2: "BOOM-M! The place where 9А83 stood half a minute ago has been successfully hit!"
author: Shtynsky dwarf from a branch about F-22 .. :)

[gizz]

And if there are a dozen goals? Or more?

[Athanasius 60]

And where is it and when did the S-300V fight against the F22 Raptor? In heaped up meaningless words, even I wouldn’t lie like that!

[lazma3]

The author of the article is probably reporting personally about the armaments of the Russian Federation from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. You just look at what kind of awareness, especially about the supply of new weapons. I read all the shit, put everything in a heap and then suckers, swallow.
But in general. To such scribblers personally, my attitude is such-you can’t go into intelligence. Even if we have air defense and missile defense problems, it is really necessary to err on the side of this. Considering that since the collapse of the USSR, our armed forces have practically not been updated. Only in recent years have significant changes and modernization of the armed forces begun.
It will be necessary for our native land and we will bite the teeth with our teeth. I served thirty years in the armed forces, and I know what I'm saying.

[vo2015]

at least someone sane

[V.V.P]

I agree that not everything is good with the state defense order, but in my opinion the author is too amenable to panic moods and pessimism

[gregor6549]

So why wait? The author to the wall, as a panicist and a pessimist, and everything will be in order.
Or is it not the author’s matter, but how is it?
And the point is not only in defense orders, but also in how efficiently each ruble spent on this defense order is used, whether they order industries, and if they get what they ordered they use them correctly.
After all, the story with Poghosyan, as well as the story with the former general director of the NGO "Antey Almaz" Ashurbeyli, clearly shows that the companies they run were until recently the pocket companies of these gentlemen and there is no certainty that with their departure something in the firms has changed significantly.
Moreover, both figures were not brought to justice, but only transplanted into other equally high leadership chairs. And how many such firms have not yet reached the feet of the controllers, and if they have, it is not a fact that these legs, together with their hands, will not be smeared with copious kickbacks. Those. the famous phrase of Ivan Vasilyevich who is changing his profession "everyone is dancing" has long been replaced by the phrase "everyone is stealing." And not only in industry, but also in the entire chain, which is responsible for equipping the Armed Forces with modern military equipment and weapons, as well as the competent use of this technology. That’s who would panic and bring it to the wall ... with production indicators. And let him explain why each cartridge and not only the cartridge is worth its weight in gold. Well, they will not be able to explain let them stay there at the wall. Forever and ever.

[Bongo]

Quote: gregor6549

So why wait? The author to the wall, as a panicist and a pessimist, and everything will be in order.

Well, thank you for your kind words! I still want to live, I have three more children to raise! In the photo, the youngest son Alexei in the cockpit of the PU ZRS S-300PS.
Well, and seriously, apparently, not everyone, due to their insanity, is able to adequately perceive information that goes against their ideas and attitude. When I was preparing this publication, I was fully aware that labels would start broadcasting on me and accused of betrayal and decadent moods. Frankly, I thought that there would be more critical comments.

[Ivan the Fool]

Is it impenetrable ????? that I can’t believe it!

[Athanasius 60]

The catastrophic situation with the lack of air defense of the country on the eve of a very probable war, in fact, was predictable and understandable. The “great thinkers of our time”, when, in the early 90's, they introduced air defense in the air force, they well understood that they were killing air defense, but they carried out the task.
Mikhailov Vladimir Sergeevich, when he came to the post of Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force in 2002, was perplexed about this merger, but could not fix anything and hoped to deal with this mutant from a snake and a hedgehog. At least he understood the difference in the tasks, tactics and procedure for the use of fighter aircraft of the Air Force and IA Defense. The farther, the worse the situation. The Minister of Defense, past the war, Marshal Zhukov understood what grief awaits a people who cannot protect themselves from the air. Defense Minister Shoigu, who had not served in the army for a day, believes in reports of subordinates with dubious professionalism, and the president believes in his minister.
As a result, new anti-aircraft missile regiments equipped with completely new systems are commanded by either pilots or sailors with an approximate understanding of air defense. None of them answered me a simple question: who, in peacetime, will decide on the destruction of an aircraft that violates the state border? There is no single control system and the commander with such a right is not there either.

[nicla]

Hello!
I read this article with interest. Especially for this comment, I had to register here at VO, I came to this article through the Yandex search engine, at the request of the Russian Air Defense Forces. I liked the article because of the author’s concern and also for his very optimistic analysis of the situation.
I myself served in RTV, at the only one in the Russian Federation, the largest air defense base, from RTV, ZRV, PRN, AWACS, PVO IA, Aeronavigation. Such a concentration of funds was not even in Moscow, in 1998, due to the liquidation of air defense as a branch of the military. This base was liquidated, on the basis of its service in the Air Force, RTV, PRN, the article is also very optimistic!
The question is, has the author of the publication changed his opinion after many years from this publication?