Mujahideen 1979-1980. Music shots from the other side

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  1. -21
    7 March 2015 07: 46
    Mujahideen rams
    1. +1
      7 March 2015 07: 59
      These "rams" put 15000 of our guys.
      1. +30
        7 March 2015 08: 22
        Moreover, half of the 15000 people died not because of the Mujahideen, but from the new American dermocrats in Moscow such as Shevarnadze, Chernomyrdit, Gorbachev, the same Dudaev who was also in Afghanistan and etc. They all leaked information about our troops, about the raids, the kalons, they did not allow giving orders to help those who were ambushed, etc. They didn’t need a victory in Afghanistan, they only needed info about big losses so that the country would stand up against the current communist regime
        1. +12
          7 March 2015 12: 50
          why are you, the guys honestly perished for their homeland, if one of the current ones is not up to date, defended their homeland at distant frontiers, and did their job professionally and competently!
        2. +2
          10 March 2015 08: 22
          Quote: Hedgehog
          the same Dudaev who was also in Afghanistan

          Dudaev is a long-range aviation pilot. What and to whom could he merge? He fought honestly, and even the ideas about free Ichkeria came to him much later, in the wake of rampant democracy, for which he paid. No need to put everything in a heap, be objective.
      2. +8
        7 March 2015 11: 56
        no one counted how many spirits lay down either, the adversary is worthy but only within his territory, especially in limited numbers on the way out, they are regrettable, straightforward and as usual allah akbar.
      3. +4
        8 March 2015 21: 01
        16000 of our guys in 10 years, or 6 guys a day, and the loss from abortion is incomparably large, and I am completely silent about drugs and other rubbish.
    2. +8
      7 March 2015 15: 22
      Underestimating the enemy is one of the reasons for defeat in any battle.
      1. 0
        8 March 2015 21: 04
        American strategists spent more on this war than we did.
    3. -4
      7 March 2015 17: 18
      sheep are not sheep, and even Alexander of Macedon was unable to conquer Afghanistan.
      The most ordinary people protecting their land (mountains) from the next conquerors.
      In general, the war clearly showed everyone that the USSR is no longer the same.
      1. 0
        8 March 2015 21: 05
        the drug has already killed the Mujakhet.
      2. 0
        10 March 2015 14: 14
        Come on to compose Macedonian calmly took their fortresses. Then the Arabs calmly conquered.
      3. +1
        11 March 2015 10: 46
        Quote: shershen
        sheep are not sheep, and even Alexander of Macedon was unable to conquer Afghanistan.
        The most ordinary people protecting their land (mountains) from the next conquerors.
        In general, the war clearly showed everyone that the USSR is no longer the same.

        Here I am always amazed by this phrase "no one could ever conquer Afghanistan." Have you ever wondered: "Who cares about him to conquer him?" Soviet troops came to Afghanistan not to conquer it, but to carry out certain tasks. If the task was to conquer, be calm and the troops of the USSR and the British, would have completed this task. It's just nonsense - no one ever ...
    4. +6
      8 March 2015 12: 49
      The whole world helped these "rams" with weapons - Great Britain, France, Pakistan, USA, Iran, China, Turkey.
      1. Tarhan
        -1
        8 March 2015 15: 26
        Quote: Vadim237
        The whole world helped these "rams" with weapons - Great Britain, France, Pakistan, USA, Iran, China, Turkey.


        Selectively from you. When the Russian people defended their homeland from the invasion of Napoleon and Hitler-this is true. When the United States supplied weapons and raw materials for the Red Army, that’s good. And when another nation defends its independence from our invasion, that means bad. There is no objectivity, but only false patriotism.

        In the pictures this is the initial period of the war. The Mujahideen are mainly armed with Lee-Enfeld English rifles of the early 20th century. Which they inherited from their grandfathers and which they took away from the soldiers of the British expeditionary forces, and the troops themselves drove out. The pictures show even more ancient firearms. And with this weapon, the Mujahideen fought against the most powerful army of the second half of the 20th century until they took away AK automatic machines, machine guns, and in some cases BMPs with tanks.

        And the West delivered to Afghanistan only Stingers and mines, but not small arms.

        AND GENERALLY SPEAKING. Well, on a fig, did the Communists of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee need to send troops into a medieval country? This is the notorious expansion of the social camp. So in Afghanistan there was not even a bearer of socialist ideas - there was no working class. They had their own showdowns of power and nothing more. A new king or president would be established there and Afghanistan would continue to live with his little world without disturbing anyone.

        Because of its ambitions, the idea of ​​fixation - world communism - the Politburo put 15 young men for nothing. What matters were these guys and their potential descendants to who rules Afghanistan - the king, president or general secretary. Not only these 000 guys were killed, but also 15 of their children, 000 thousand great-grandchildren and millions of future descendants who were not born from them. The future of life was killed.
        1. +2
          8 March 2015 15: 37
          Tarhan
          The idea of ​​fix-world domination is the idea of ​​the United States, so do not pour crocodile tears here.

          There is no need to lie about the fact that the West did not supply weapons, or about the fact that the Taliban is a purely American work of terrorists .. DO NOT lie.
          It’s not worth singing songs here that America is a beacon of civilization under the Soviets, the main export item of Afghanistan, citrus fruits and grains, plus emeralds and tsvetmet, with Americans heroin.

          Do not squeeze a tear, about unborn children, you and your America, through heroin from Afghanistan, annually kill at least 50 thousand young lives in Russia.

          You and your America, the main misfortune in a world where it does not come, is always death, blood and destruction.
          1. Tarhan
            -1
            8 March 2015 16: 31
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            The idea of ​​fix-world domination, is the idea of ​​the USA,


            The first one is not from the USA. I'm from Kazakhstan. A flag is a malfunction of technology.

            Submit documents, not fiction, that the United States seeks world domination. And US economic dominance gained 250 years of independence by hard work. True, soon China will dominate the global economy, it is only a matter of time, and without the Chinese tantrum, that the United States wants world domination. And when China becomes the first such as you will begin to talk about Chinese world domination. If we are not the first, then other evil spirits.

            Quote: vladkavkaz
            No need to lie that the West didn’t supply weapons,


            In addition to "Stingers" and mines, name the brands of small arms supplied by the West at that time. Name the brands of cars, infantry fighting vehicles, tanks, artillery systems, anti-aircraft guns, etc. Name?

            Quote: vladkavkaz
            Do not squeeze a tear, about unborn children, you and your America, through heroin from Afghanistan, annually kill at least 50 thousand young lives in Russia.


            If you have your own descendants in FIG, then this is a purely personal matter. Do not cry, have fun and dance.
            Heroin crosses borders without US involvement. This is the first. Secondly and most importantly - If the Russian border services, customs, the FSB, the police do not work, then why invent other guilty parties. If these services worked, then the mountains of heroin would not fall into Russia, but would accumulate on the borders.
            1. +1
              8 March 2015 17: 38
              Quote: Tarkhan
              Submit documents, not fiction, that the US seeks world domination
              - Obama himself admitted that they are "an exceptional nation."
              Quote: Tarkhan
              And when China becomes the first such as you will begin to talk about Chinese world domination
              - with China, and so in the ear we hold sharply! The main thing is that they do not interfere with our development, as the United States is currently doing. I agree that they themselves drove themselves into this corner.
            2. +2
              8 March 2015 21: 11
              Tarhan
              You either don’t know History, or you ended up a shelter for expatriates, since in all seriousness you carry this nonsense that the USA claims to dominate the world.
              Google is big, Obama’s speech will find the latter, with claims to world domination.
              Arming Afghans
              BUR rifles) - ten-shot .303-inch caliber rifles manufactured in England in 1890-1905;
              Kalashnikov assault rifles 7,62 mm manufactured in China, Egypt, the USSR;
              US automatic rifles M-16A1;
              automatic machines produced in Germany, Israel, England, Sweden;
              heavy machine guns DShK 12.7 mm caliber manufactured in China;
              RPG-2, RPG-7 hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers manufactured in the USSR, China, Folsknet - Switzerland, Lants-2 - Germany, M72 LAW - USA, Sarpak - France, Picket - Israel;
              recoilless guns of caliber 75 mm and 82 mm manufactured in China, Pakistan and the USA;
              mortars - 60 and 82 mm;
              Chinese PURS;
              Air defense means:

              Antiaircraft mounts ZGU, ZU-25-2, ZU-23-4 produced in China, the USSR, Czechoslovakia;
              Small-caliber anti-aircraft guns "Oerlikon";
              Man-portable air defense systems MANPADS "Strela-2" of the USSR, China, Egypt, "Red Eye", "Jewelin" - USA, "Bloipipe" - England, "Stinger", "Redeye" - USA;
              Various types of mines, including anti-tank and anti-personnel mines;

              Italian mines;
              American - M-19, M 18A-1, DSME-S, Claymore;
              Swedish - M-102, English MAK-7
              What were the armaments of the Soviet and Chinese models from, are you able to figure out, or is it beyond understanding?
              During the Soviet-Afghan war, the United States and Britain conducted a secret operation against the USSR, code-named "Faraday," which was supervised by the ministries of defense of Great Britain and the United States. The direct executors of the tasks were employees of the British special forces SAS and the intelligence department of the US Department of Defense. The operation pursued the following objectives: the creation of training camps (including in Pakistan and in Scotland); sending American and British saboteurs from special forces units for reconnaissance in the areas of Kandahar - Bagram - Kabul; organizing the supply of weapons, ammunition and mine-explosive means; instructing Afghan mujahideen on sabotage tactics.
              According to the American newspaper The New York Times, already in December 1982, the US CIA received instructions from the US government to supply heavy weapons to the Mujahideen, including recoilless guns, mortars and anti-tank grenade launchers.
              At the beginning of 1983, after several participants in the operation were detained in Afghanistan, one of the CIA’s arms delivery channels to Afghanistan became known: the company Intermars Company of Manchester, established in Great Britain, provided arms and ammunition from Manchester to Karachi, and from there - to transshipment points in Peshawar and Parachinar near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
              On May 5, 1983, a representative of the US State Department officially recognized the fact of providing military assistance to the Mujahideen.
              On September 16, 1983, the Government of Afghanistan declared non grata persons in connection with activities incompatible with the status of a diplomat, two employees of the US embassy in Kabul: second secretary of the embassy Turner Haig Jefferson and attorney Blackburn Robert Kinley
              1. Tarhan
                0
                9 March 2015 09: 56
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                Arming Afghans


                Okay, got excited. But what would you like in case of aggression, the people resisted only with a pitchfork, against tanks. And then you would glorify the armor of tanks that stood against the pitchfork.

                The main fact is that Soviet troops committed aggression, the consequence of which was the supply of weapons to the Afghan people who had risen to fight. There would be no aggression, there would be no supplies, and not vice versa. And the USSR supplied weapons to Vietnam.

                Quote: vladkavkaz
                During the Soviet-Afghan war, the United States and Britain conducted a secret operation against the USSR, code-named "Faraday"


                So these are also Consequences. There would be no troop deployment and there would be no operation. Or do you think and want any aggression to remain without consequences. You want the troops of the USSR or the USA or Argentina to invade any country, and the population of this country, without resistance, will obediently bend to the conqueror. And why then the Russian people did not bend in front of the Poles, Turkey, Napoleon and further.

                Claims of the USA are your inventions. Obama like previous presidents talked about protect American interests all over the world. And this is natural for a great country. Just as the protection of their interests by China, South Africa, Israel and of course for its great history of Russia, which also defends its interests around the world.

                And naturally, these interests are in contact somewhere. And it is better that they be decided by diplomacy, and not by military force.
        2. +5
          8 March 2015 17: 33
          Quote: Tarkhan
          Well, on a fig, did the Communists of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee need to send troops into a medieval country?
          - A counter question about Vietnam.
          Quote: Tarkhan
          Because of its ambitions, the idea of ​​fixation - world communism - the Politburo put 15 young guys for no reason
          - How many "fertilizers" are left in Vietnam, and for what purpose?
          PS - and indeed it’s ridiculous from the US representative to hear such a thing!
          The list of conflicts in which the instigators were the United States:
          1950-1953 - war in Korea. About 350 thousand people, 1000 tanks, over 300 ships participated in the hostilities. The predominant part of the military contingent and military equipment provided the United States.

          April 1961 - an attempt of the American invasion of Cuba in the Playa Giron region in order to overthrow the government led by Fidel Castro.

          1965-1973 - the war in Vietnam. The largest use of US forces after World War II.

          1964-1973 - US armed operation in the fight against the Pathet Lao front in Laos. Over 50 thousand people participated.

          October 25, 1983 - June 1985 - US military operation "Sudden Fury" in Grenada to overthrow the left-wing government of the island nation.

          April 1986 - after the introduction of economic sanctions, the United States launched military actions against Libya. Residential areas of the cities of Tripoli and Benghazi were bombed.

          December 1989 - US military operation "Just Cause" in Panama in order to remove from power the country's leader Manuel Noriega, accused of drug trafficking and the promotion of terrorism.

          January 17 - February 28, 1991 - a military operation by the United States and its allies to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi occupation, code-named "Desert Storm."

          1991-1995, 1998-1999 - Interethnic war in Yugoslavia and NATO aggression against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

          17 January 1993 - The United States launched a missile strike at an object located about 20 km from the center of Baghdad, where, according to Washington, work was underway to create nuclear weapons.

          26 June 1993 - The United States launched a missile attack on the main Iraqi intelligence command and control complex in Baghdad in response to Baghdad’s allegedly alleged plans to assassinate US President George W. Bush.

          3 September 1996 - The United States launched a cruise missile attack on Iraq after Iraqi forces conducted an operation against the Kurds in the Erbil area of ​​northern Iraq.

          August 20, 1998 - a blow to the "terrorist targets" of Afghanistan and Sudan in response to terrorist acts against the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya.

          March 24, 1999 Serbia - Operation "Allied Force". This historical review is especially interesting in terms of how the United States and Co. behaved in a situation where one independent country tried to pacify one self-proclaimed republic.

          7 October 2001 Afghanistan. The United States is conducting an operation in Afghanistan as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, allegedly launched in response to the September 11 terrorist act of 2001.

          20 March 2003 Iraq war - a military conflict that began with the invasion of US forces and their allies in Iraq, with the aim of overthrowing the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was codenamed Iraqi Freedom

          August 2008 of the year. Armed conflict in South Ossetia. A failed US attempt to start a war with Russia using Georgia.

          19 March 2011 year. The war in Libya. Under a far-fetched and deceitful pretext, they created a reason for invasion
          1. Tarhan
            +1
            9 March 2015 10: 29
            Quote: Dazdranagon
            The list of conflicts in which the instigators were the United States:


            This is the remnants of Soviet propaganda. In Korea, Kim Il Sung started the war with the support of the USSR. It was his troops who crossed the line of demarcation and captured Seoul. And they were driven out from the south by UN troops, the bulk of which were US troops, but there were also troops from England, Turkey, Ethiopia, Luxembourg and other countries.

            US troops did not invade Cuba. Opponents of the communist regime - Cubans invaded. Supported economically and politically by the United States. But not the invasion of US troops. The USSR also supported the establishment of socialist regimes in Angola, Yemen and other countries.

            The United States fought against the spread of communist ideas and regimes in South Witnam. The US acted in South Vietnam at the request of its government. The United States did not send troops to North Vietnam. Although there was a temptation. The United States could occupy the North. Vietnam, well, suppose for three months. The hostilities certainly would not have stopped, just the Communists would have gone into the jungle and continued the guerrilla war. And history, in general, showed the correctness of the civilized world - the socialist system and communist ideas collapsed throughout the world and without the use of force from outside.

            The USA and the West used force in those places where dictators threatened stability in the world and oppressed their peoples. It’s the same as condemning the troops of Vietnam who threw off the animal dictatorship of Pol Pot in Cambodia, which destroyed one third of its people. Or the struggle of peoples against the fascist dictator Hitler.

            And I am not a representative of the USA. I am from Kazakhstan. A flag is a malfunction of technology.
            1. 0
              11 March 2015 10: 25
              Quote: Tarkhan
              This is the remnants of Soviet propaganda.
              - good, 2 out of 20 cases are in question. And the rest?
              The US and the West used force in places where dictators threatened stability in the world and oppressed their peoples
              - Did you live better in Libya and Iraq? Do not write nonsense! Or is there no dictator with the people - no problem? Such logic? laughing
              1. Tarhan
                0
                11 March 2015 12: 40
                Quote: Dazdranagon
                well, 2 out of 20 cases are in question. And the rest?


                This is you out of envy that you are not the first to hang all dogs on the opposite side, neglecting common sense, logic, and the sequence of chronology.

                Libya at one time was bombed because the special services of Gaddafi blew up a passenger plane over England where about 300 people died. Most of whom were unlikely to know Gaddafi.

                There are many authoritarian regimes, but if their dictatorial leaders do not strain the world community and do not destroy their people. They do not touch. Based on the definition that the life of even one Western soldier is not worth the effort to overthrow the regime.

                For a year, the people of Libya, rising against the tyrant, fought. And when the bill went to the thousands of victims of the Libyan people, the West intervened with its aircraft.

                Hussein unleashed a 7-year war with Iran, putting 2 million people on both sides. Occupied Kuwait. He poisoned his own military people who rose to fight. The international coalition, which included troops from other Arab countries, put an end to tyranny.

                Bin Laden turned Afghanistan into a nest of terrorism. From there, towers in New York were blown up and 3 people died. The West defeated Al Qaeda's infrastructure in Afghanistan. Or do you want Laden to stay alive and blow up peaceful people in other places and possibly in Russia.

                And what is missing in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan. They are only without dictators.
                1. Tarhan
                  0
                  11 March 2015 13: 05
                  Quote: Tarkhan
                  And what is missing in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan. They are only without dictators.


                  What to say about Sudan. What if the Russian embassy had been blown up there, the Kremlin would have kept silent.

                  Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia, like the USSR, consisted of several republics. After the collapse of the socialist noose, all these republics wanted to live independently. And WHAT IS THIS CRIMINAL IN THIS? Milosevic, under the slogan Great Serbia, wanted to leave these republics in the zone of its influence and unleashed a massacre. The slaughter continued for about 2 years and only then did the west intervene. And not to destroy Serbia, but to end the war. The war was over. Now, instead of Yugoslavia, there are independent states, including Serbia. Which joins the EU and other European structures.

                  All of us, residents of the former USSR, were very lucky. Because if we had developed the Balkan script of Milosevic, then Yugoslavia would have seemed a tender flower. Rivers of blood and grief would have spilled in Central Asia, the Caucasus, the Baltic states, the Ukraine and Belarus, and even Russia itself.

                  And I'm not bullshit. That you are sick of greatness and exclusivity. But you are not the first in the world both in economics and in politics, and therefore out of jealousy you hang anything from successful ones.

                  After some time, but certainly, the first in the world will be China. Then people like you will talk about Chinese imperialism and that it has captured Tibet, it will occupy Xinjiang and beyond. All these years, China did not confront the West. And he took everything from the West - technology, methods, know-how. And without hysteria, it really becomes the first and the West does not interfere with this, neither by military force, nor even how, but only by building up the economy to the best of its ability.
        3. 0
          9 March 2015 22: 36
          Tarkhan, come on from this site you have a different head here, the Soviets are swearing and fraternizing with each other, and you are already not ours, you are floating on the surface in depth, do not go down, you are afraid of roofing felts)
          1. Tarhan
            0
            11 March 2015 06: 02
            Quote: svdshka
            Tarkhan, come on from this site you have a different head here, the Soviets are swearing and fraternizing with each other, and you are already not ours, you are floating on the surface in depth, do not go down, you are afraid of roofing felts)


            For good. Who are you, Sensei self-taught or something, to others to indicate what to do? There are no Soviet ones, the country of Soviets, which went against the laws of politics, economics, human self-consciousness, collapsed into the dustbin of history. And it remained with some underdeveloped inhabitants - the Soviet blues And nothing more.

            For the bad. I will definitely delete the site from the computer, but only after you delete your genitals and post it on the site. It’s you swimming in a tank of world garbage and bits.
    5. +3
      8 March 2015 18: 24
      the ram itself. an adversary who has opposed you for many years with your technical and numerical superiority must be respected
      1. +1
        8 March 2015 22: 15
        Quote: Andy555
        the ram itself. an adversary who has opposed you for many years with your technical and numerical superiority must be respected

        --------------------------------
        In the mountains, numerical superiority is about nothing ... There you need a specially trained unit, even shooting from bottom to top and top to bottom has its own characteristics and needs a good eye, and so on all issues, up to taking into account the sparseness of the air ...
  2. +23
    7 March 2015 08: 40
    Mujahideen about our soldiers speak respectfully after having raped business with the Americans.
  3. +10
    7 March 2015 09: 12
    Interesting berdanki at spirits ... Go weapon has been accumulated since the time of the colonial wars.
    1. +11
      7 March 2015 09: 28
      Quote: Karabanov
      Interesting berdanki at spirits ... Go weapon has been accumulated since the time of the colonial wars.

      The last Anglo-Afghan war ended in the 1919 year, but the supply of British rifles continued after these events. By themselves, Li-Anfield rifles with a longitudinally-sliding shutter chambered for an 0,303 inch (7,71X56R mm) cartridge were not bad at all, being accurate and reliable weapons were widely used. They are in some places they are still used.
    2. 0
      7 March 2015 09: 32
      That's exactly. Two soldiers punched right through, according to stories. Karamultuk, if anyone has read Jura.
  4. +2
    7 March 2015 09: 31
    Gleb Bobrov. "Afghan saga". Read it. I liked it. Photo in the vein. Bourgeois clicked, of course.
  5. +7
    7 March 2015 11: 54
    Quote: Karabanov
    Interesting berdanki at spirits ... Go weapon has been accumulated since the time of the colonial wars.

    This is the so-called. "boers". English rifles from the Boer War still. At first, they were the main weapon of the spirits in Afghanistan. They shot down our first helicopters. The spirits rose in the mountains to the level of the helicopter flight and fired at the pilots through the side window. The first "200s" pilots returned to our covering helicopter regiment for this very reason. Then they began to put side bulletproof glasses on the helicopters.
  6. +5
    7 March 2015 12: 14
    Quote: subbota86
    no one counted how many spirits lay down either, the adversary is worthy but only within his territory, especially in limited numbers on the way out, they are regrettable, straightforward and as usual allah akbar.

    Over a million spirits with the civilian population
    1. +1
      7 March 2015 12: 44
      Well, here is the loss ratio.
  7. -1
    7 March 2015 13: 25
    Enough eloquent photos. In 1979-1980 there wasn’t that big money that then poured into the mujahideen of Saudi Arabia and the USA, and therefore initially the most “offended” ones entered the struggle - buy, etc. The photographs are clearly not peasants. This was something to fight for.
    1. 0
      8 March 2015 10: 32
      Quote: skeptic31
      the most “offended” - bais, etc., entered the struggle. The photographs are clearly not peasants.


      Yes, you’re our physiognomist - offhand to determine the social origin of the photographs (bourgeois faces and exploiters?) And those that not only prayed but also fought barefoot are also buys - for example a snotty guy ... They probably fought so that they could get shoes and continue to exploit others, presumably there were no other motives for these people ...
  8. -1
    7 March 2015 14: 24
    Quote: egor670
    Mujahideen rams

    Well, why are you doing this? Of course, you didn’t study at the Oxvoda and Moscow State University, but that’s their environment. And you don’t need to blame them for fighting against us. The enemy came to their house, and they fought. Moreover, they are fighting with the Americans, and whoever comes will rise too. Yet no one has occupied Afghanistan, there were Persians, Greeks, Mongols, Russians, Americans, etc. hi
    1. +4
      8 March 2015 03: 09
      If I remember correctly, the USSR did not occupy them. And the USSR did not pump out resources from them. And the same Afghans fought along with the USSR (i.e., the civilian classic). And the limited contingent was not defeated, but withdrawn. A friendly government in Afghanistan was overthrown by military means with the help of the United States.
  9. +9
    7 March 2015 15: 22
    Quote: fa2998
    Still no one has occupied Afghanistan, there were Persians, Greeks, Mongols, Russians, Americans


    All of you listed and occupied .... The myth of "invincibility" - just a myth. It's just that no one lingered there for a long time. There's no point.
    And they are really brave warriors. They knew how to fight and die.
  10. +6
    7 March 2015 16: 48
    In my opinion, normal human faces clearly do not feel the joys of war. There was no need to climb there. East is a delicate matter.
  11. 0
    7 March 2015 16: 58
    a more realistic picture, with the Kalash units, and not as in films everything is polls. And the Boers made serious holes in the flesh
    1. +2
      8 March 2015 13: 50
      Yeah. And they didn't have "Stingers", only in the movies ...) It's 80g. Then there was everything and a lot ...
  12. +2
    7 March 2015 17: 54
    And the Kalashnikovs in the pictures are all Soviet-made. Chinese are not visible.
    1. 0
      8 March 2015 15: 39
      Chinese, Romanian, Egyptian, yes, a lot.
  13. +1
    7 March 2015 21: 07
    A lot of English weapons.
  14. Wii
    -3
    7 March 2015 21: 56
    It was not a fig to climb into Afghanistan .....
    1. -1
      8 March 2015 12: 47
      The troops did not have to enter.
  15. +1
    8 March 2015 13: 22
    Good photos of "people on the other side". It was interesting to see.
  16. +2
    8 March 2015 18: 28
    A friend can give - an enemy, never. one could come to an agreement with Masood. for this he was removed.
    1. Tarhan
      0
      9 March 2015 10: 38
      Quote: Andy555
      A friend can give - an enemy, never. one could come to an agreement with Masood. for this he was removed.


      One could probably agree with Masood on some details, but not at the cost of Afghanistan’s independence.

      Masood had a higher western education. He was a leader in the fight against aggression. Was categorically against the rampant reactionary, retrograde Islamization of Afghanistan. That is why it was destroyed by Al Qaeda led by Bin Laden. Having removed Masouda, Laden planted medieval Islam in the society of Afghanistan. And Afghanistan itself is in the nest of international terrorism.
  17. +2
    8 March 2015 19: 04
    Purely a photo report - I liked it. And the comments are not all. War is an infection. People are dying, children ... What the "politicians" do, the rank and file, commanders transform into death ... What is on their part, what is on our side. But the Courage of a soldier should be respected. What is ours, what is the enemy. My opinion.
  18. 0
    8 March 2015 19: 37
    In one of the photos, a sheet with a blood stain. Put on display after the wedding night apparently, with evidence of the innocence of the bride. How many brides with us could laughing . Europe is turning blue from debauchery, moral principles are no longer between a man and a woman, we went further, pah ... War always divides into two camps, children and old people lose, in the future any country loses, because not enough men killed in the war. So imagine who the Americans are fighting now, people have nothing, but they honor traditions and their morality, and the Americans, where gay are legalized. Thank God when ours fought, it was still the USSR, without our free Western liberals. IMHO.
  19. 0
    8 March 2015 21: 50
    Yes, of course the poverty of Afghanistan is striking, and now it is the same.
  20. Naiman
    0
    9 March 2015 06: 20
    Interesting post. Valor is worthy of respect. Moreover, the Afghans (consider Pashtuns, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Hazaras), unexpectedly for those who even then considered them "rams", managed to impose their own war conditions on the enemy. And the notorious cruelty, it is always generated by reverse cruelty. Read the revelations of the former "Afghans" how our women and children were massacred, especially the intelligence of the GRU, entire settlements were destroyed by multiple launch rocket systems. However, even after being captured, our servicemen still had a chance to survive, under certain conditions (which cannot be said about modern "fighters"). And the point is not that they helped them with weapons from the outside or not (with hoes or ATGMs themselves). The question is what they fought for. After all, the Soviet Union also believed that they brought democracy and education. Not guessing modern parallels?
    1. +2
      9 March 2015 21: 58
      Quote: Nyman
      Interesting post. Valor is worthy of respect. Moreover, the Afghans (consider Pashtuns, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Hazaras), unexpectedly for those who even then considered them "rams", managed to impose their own war conditions on the enemy. And the notorious cruelty, it is always generated by reverse cruelty. Read the revelations of the former "Afghans" how our women and children were massacred, especially the intelligence of the GRU, entire settlements were destroyed by multiple launch rocket systems. However, even after being captured, our servicemen still had a chance to survive, under certain conditions (which cannot be said about modern "fighters"). And the point is not that they helped them with weapons from the outside or not (with hoes or ATGMs themselves). The question is what they fought for. After all, the Soviet Union also believed that they brought democracy and education. Not guessing modern parallels?

      And you, comrade, would do well to read something. Ours didn’t cut women and children so deliberately, read the memories of the Afghans themselves, you will find out that when the gang entered the village where their tribe didn’t live, they killed everyone there and then spread provocative rumors that our people allegedly did it, or from the village shelling was conducted, then ours fired at this village, although the gang had long gone, how we treated their prisoners, and how ours got. Animal cruelty, which we did not even dream about in a dream. Where the local readers have such a gentle attitude towards gangs is unclear.
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    9 March 2015 18: 19
    male faces of worthy opponents. Afghans are mostly warriors. and over time, respectfully speak of shuravi.
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    9 March 2015 21: 51
    Quote: Tarkhan
    Quote: Vadim237
    The whole world helped these "rams" with weapons - Great Britain, France, Pakistan, USA, Iran, China, Turkey.


    Selectively from you. When the Russian people defended their homeland from the invasion of Napoleon and Hitler-this is true. When the United States supplied weapons and raw materials for the Red Army, that’s good. And when another nation defends its independence from our invasion, that means bad. There is no objectivity, but only false patriotism.

    In the pictures this is the initial period of the war. The Mujahideen are mainly armed with Lee-Enfeld English rifles of the early 20th century. Which they inherited from their grandfathers and which they took away from the soldiers of the British expeditionary forces, and the troops themselves drove out. The pictures show even more ancient firearms. And with this weapon, the Mujahideen fought against the most powerful army of the second half of the 20th century until they took away AK automatic machines, machine guns, and in some cases BMPs with tanks.

    And the West delivered to Afghanistan only Stingers and mines, but not small arms.

    AND GENERALLY SPEAKING. Well, on a fig, did the Communists of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee need to send troops into a medieval country? This is the notorious expansion of the social camp. So in Afghanistan there was not even a bearer of socialist ideas - there was no working class. They had their own showdowns of power and nothing more. A new king or president would be established there and Afghanistan would continue to live with his little world without disturbing anyone.

    Because of its ambitions, the idea of ​​fixation - world communism - the Politburo put 15 young men for nothing. What matters were these guys and their potential descendants to who rules Afghanistan - the king, president or general secretary. Not only these 000 guys were killed, but also 15 of their children, 000 thousand great-grandchildren and millions of future descendants who were not born from them. The future of life was killed.

    Dear, is it okay that we weren't going to win them? And why did you decide that we had nothing to do there? 15 have died in ten years, and now 000 million have died from drugs in 10 years. So, it is 1 who died to make a million live. Do we have something to do from the other end of the planet, but we had nothing to do near our side? Uh-huh. According to its "occupational" habit, the USSR built tunnels, power plants, slokas, hospitals there, what did you build there?
    1. Tarhan
      +1
      11 March 2015 06: 24
      Quote: Eugene30
      Dear, but nothing that we were not going to conquer them?


      Being blind is bad, and persistently blind is even worse. If you do not want to purchase, you do not go to the store. On a fig ass ass, if he is not a bully.

      They were not going to conquer. And in a fig, the KGB special forces and the "Muslim" reconnaissance battalion of the SA stormed Amin's palace and killed Amin himself. On a fig enter troops and put his protege Karmal. With your logic, we can say that Germany did not want to conquer the USSR, but just take a walk.

      Quote: Eugene30
      And why did you decide that we had nothing to do there?


      They do not enter an alien house without an invitation.

      Quote: Eugene30
      In ten years, 15 have died, and now 000 million have died from drugs in 10 years.


      And who is to blame? Ok, in Afghanistan poppy is grown and heroin is produced. But if the corresponding services of Russia worked as they should, the border service, customs, the FSB, the police, then all this heroin would remain a mountain on the border, and not penetrate Russia. If these services worked well, then at least 10 times a year, take a poppy crop, in Russia this million would not die.

      Quote: Eugene30
      Uh-huh. According to its "occupational" habit, the USSR built tunnels, power plants, slokas, hospitals there, what did you build there?


      Any aggressor does something to reduce the resistance of the people.
  23. 0
    April 3 2015 15: 24
    1.Alloyarov Nanaz Ruzievich - Private 10.09.1991, returned to their homeland
    2.Bakirov Soatnurat Parnanovich - Private 04.01.1989/XNUMX/XNUMX returned to their homeland
    3 Bekmuratov Murat Erkinovich - Private, 22.04.1992/XNUMX/XNUMX, returned to his homeland
    4. Vylku Ivan Evgenievich - Private, March 08.03.1993, XNUMX, returned to his homeland
    5.Vyrodov Nikolay Anatolyevich - Private on September 20.09.1993, XNUMX refused to return to the RSFSR
    6. Kopadze Archil Gennadyevich - Private, 25.07.1990, returned to his homeland
    7.Lopukh Andrey Andreevich - Private 28.11.1989/XNUMX/XNUMX, returned to their homeland
    8.Nazarov Victor Vasilievich - junior sergeant 08.03.1993/XNUMX/XNUMX, returned to their homeland
    9.Olenin Aleksey Ivanovich - Private, May 16.05.1994, XNUMX, returned to his homeland
    10.Prokopchuk Valery Konstantinovich - Private, 28.11.1989/XNUMX/XNUMX, returned to his homeland
    11. Soatov Ilyas Muminovich - Private, 23.07.1990, returned to his homeland
    12. Stepanov Yuri Fedorovich - Private on May 16.05.1994, XNUMX returned to his homeland
    13. Tashrifov Kurbanali Khukmatulpaevich - Private, 18.08.1991/XNUMX/XNUMX, returned to their homeland
    14. Tikhonov Alexei Roltovich - sergeant 11.04.1990/XNUMX/XNUMX, returned to their homeland
    15.Fateev Sergey Vladimirovich - private
    16. Hodimuratov Murnamat Ashurovich - junior sergeant
    17.Vyrodov Nikolay Anatolyevich - Private (in the personal guard of Gulbetdin Hekmatyar)
    18. Gulgeldinov Davletnazar - private on 25.10.1991/XNUMX/XNUMX refused to return to the RSFSR
    19.Dubina Valentin Nikolaevich - Private on September 20.09.1993, XNUMX refused to return to the RSFSR
    20.Abdulgapurov Magomed Kamil-Magomedovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    21.Abdurashidov Isuf Abdullagaevich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    22. Akilbekov Iskander Dzhienbekovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    23.Altiev Kumin Sultanovich - junior sergeant in the ranks of the opposition
    24.Albatov Ramazan Shakhimovich - junior sergeant in the ranks of the opposition
    25.Baikeev Nail Faridovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    26.Bondarev Sergey Nikolaevich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    27.Byk Viktor Konstantinovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    28. Bystrov Nikolay Nikolaevich (Islamuddin) - Private (in the personal guard of Ahmad Shah Masud)
    29. Varvaryan Mikhail Abramovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    30. Vorontsov Sergey Vladimirovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    31. Vorsin Pavel Georgievich - junior sergeant in the ranks of the opposition
    32. Grinyk Igor Ilyich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    33. Eremenko Nikolay Valentinovich - private in the ranks of the opposition
    34. Zverkovich Alexander Anatolyevich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    35. Zuev Aleksei Alekseevich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    36. Karpenko Valentin Petrovich - ensign in the ranks of the opposition
    37. Kashirov Vladimir Nikolaevich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    38. Kochkorov Orazali Toktonazarovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    39. Krasnoperov Sergey Yurievich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    40. Krivonosov Alexey Petrovich - lieutenant in the ranks of the opposition
    41. Lazarenko Vasily Egorovich - private in the ranks of the opposition
    42. Levenets, Alexander Yurievich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    43. Levchishin Sergey Nikolaevich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    44. Malyshev Alexander Sergeevich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    45. Maltsev Valery Valentinovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    46.Makhmadnazarov Hazrat Ablakunovich - junior sergeant in the ranks of the opposition
    47. Nikolay Vladimirovich Mikolaichuk - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    48. Mishakov Yuri Vladimirovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    49. Nesterev Sergey Anatolyevich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    50. Petrov Nikolay Ivanovich - an ordinary in the ranks of the opposition
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    April 3 2015 15: 25
    51. Petikov Evgeny Viktorovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    52. Pikhach Vasily Vasilievich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    53. Roshchupkin Alexey Vasilievich - sergeant in the ranks of the opposition
    54.Samin Nikolay Grigoryevich - junior sergeant in the ranks of the opposition
    55.Sokolov Nikolay Vladimirovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    56. Talashkevich Anatoly Aleksandrovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    57. Fedorov Vasily Yeremeyevich - an ordinary in the ranks of the opposition
    58. Khakhalev Vasily Viktorovich - junior sergeant in the ranks of the opposition
    59. Khudalov Kazbek Akhtemirovich - senior lieutenant in the ranks of the opposition
    60. Tsevna Gennady Anatolyevich - an ordinary in the ranks of the opposition
    61. Chekhov Viktor Tiranovich - sergeant in the ranks of the opposition
    62. Chupakhin Viktor Ivanovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    63.Shvets Viktor Vladimirovich - Private in the ranks of the opposition
    64. Yazkhanov Beshingeldy - an ordinary in the ranks of the opposition
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