Grefodovnik

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Grefodovnik


Gref was born in 1964 in the village of Panfilovo in the north of Kazakhstan in the family of Germans who were expelled from the Donbass in 1941 (so that the label “German-Chechen Fascist” that arose during his reformation was incorrect). When he was one and a half years old, his father died, the boy was raised by his mother and grandmother. He studied moderately, for threes and fours, but he was distinguished by perseverance and managed to enter MGIMO, which was then the main humanitarian university of a huge country (in the USSR it was possible), but was dismissed after the first year. According to the official biography 17-year-old young man became the legal adviser of the regional agricultural department.

He served in the special forces of the internal troops, whose functions include escorting dangerous prisoners, searching for fugitives, suppressing riots. As having served in the army without exams, he got a job at the faculty of Omsk University and entered the law faculty, where he became the Komsomol and head of the student operative. After graduating from high school in 1990, Gref entered the graduate school of the Leningrad State University, but did not defend his thesis: for a career in new times she was no longer needed.

Gref's scientific adviser was Sobchak, and in 1991, the graduate student became the legal adviser of the Committee for Economic Development and Property of the Administration of the Petrodvorets District of St. Petersburg, and at 1992 he headed the Property Management Committee of the area. In 1994, he became deputy chairman of the city property management committee (KUGI) of the "northern capital", and managed all the real estate in the city.

After Yakovlev’s victory over Sobchak, Gref took the initiative and, as one of the ideologists of the housing and utilities reform, climbed a new rung of the career ladder, becoming the first deputy chairman of the KUGI, although liberal reform led to ordinary results (the rent rose twice without improving services). After the murder of the head of the KUGI, Manevich, Gref took his post, becoming the vice-governor.

Gref's numerous accusations of crimes characteristic of liberal reforms had no consequences; Thus, the case of illegal bribery of the Senny Market in the center of St. Petersburg was closed after the murder of the only witness.

Five days before the 1998 default, on the recommendation of Chubais, he was appointed first deputy minister of state property of Russia.

After Primakov’s resignation, Gref reached a new level: he became a member of the state representatives board at Rosgosstrakh and Transneft, the Federal Commission for the Securities Market Board, Aeroflot and Gazprom boards of directors, and the chairman of the board of directors of Sheremetyevo airport.

In December, 1999, he headed the Center for Strategic Research, which Putin commissioned to develop a strategy for 10 years. The titled reformers seemed to shy away from this honor as troublesome and unrelated to material benefits — and Gref seized the chance to come to the fore.
And as the program "500 days" introduced Yavlinsky into the policy, the strategy-2010 contributed Gref to the government: in May 2000, he headed the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade created for him.

Lord of reform

The TsSR was gathered by the overwhelming majority of qualified experts from Russia, but their work was wasted.

An example is work on banking reform. Almost all of the country's specialists submitted reasoned proposals that were discarded, and the text was written "from scratch" by one person who did not even know what types of banking licenses there are in Russia. The absurdity of the result caused a categorical protest by the leadership of the Central Bank, and this section was excluded from the strategy.

She was an untreated, disjointed, unstructured set of unreasonable demands. The summary attributed by Kommersant to Prime Minister Kasyanov "The mountain gave birth to a mouse. Well, that wasn’t a cockroach" was perceived as a soft and balanced assessment.

The government never approved it.

Nevertheless, a number of its provisions were pressed down by the liberals in the form of individual reforms that inflicted enormous damage on Russia.

The key mechanism of the strategy is to stop the outflow of capital from the country by improving the investment climate, although with a strong outflow of capital such an improvement is not possible with liberal recipes (it resembles the treatment with dizziness caused by loss of blood due to blood loss). To improve the investment climate is possible only by measures of state regulation, first of all, by modernization of the infrastructure, which contradicts the interests of global business and is therefore rejected by the liberals.

Helpless babble about the reduction of capital outflow for unknown reasons served as a simple cover for the main and only developed tool for ensuring economic growth: cuts by a quarter of government spending, primarily due to social expenditures of the regions.

The state’s refusal of social obligations, “social default” as the core of the strategy gave it the character of social genocide and made liberal dictatorship necessary for its condition.

The strategy required the rejection of non-tariff regulation of foreign economic activity, which soon led to the destruction of the standardization system, the destruction of the product quality control system. The demand for accession to the WTO, of which Gref was the main lobbyist, was fulfilled - under completely colonial conditions - and sharply slowed down the economy, replacing confident investment growth with a recession.

The promise of “removing obstacles to the bankruptcy of inefficient enterprises” resulted, along with the “debureaucratization” of the economy, which Gref was also driving, in creating ideal conditions for unpunished raiding, the revelry of which destroyed the very idea of ​​ownership.

The "legalization of the export of capital" has resulted in the abolition of currency regulation, which has made Russia defenseless against the fluctuations of the world conjuncture. How not to recall the oligarch Bendukidze, for whom the main human right and criterion of democracy was the right to freely export a million dollars!
The reform of natural monopolies, outlined in the strategy of Gref, was implemented in the catastrophe of the power industry and the lesser-known disorganization of rail transport.

The housing and utilities reform has led to a horrific increase in tariffs with the disruption of the industry.

The reform of labor relations deprived workers of real opportunities to protect their inalienable rights.

The cuts in social assistance were implemented in the form of cannibal monetization of benefits, pension reform, and the destruction of education and health care.

In the first versions of the draft strategy, Gref directly pointed out the need to overcome the tendency to form a "welfare state". An attempt to repeal the Constitution, which enshrines the social character of the state, failed: direct self-exposing language was removed from the text, but the ideology was implemented.

Finally, judicial reform, as far as can be judged, formed administrative control over the courts and led to the disintegration of the latter, in effect depriving Russians of access to justice.

Gref was the engine of almost all liberal reforms and ex officio, and because of personal preferences.

When creating the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade (MEDT), he tried to grab as many functions as possible to maximize his influence. As a result, it turned out to be a bulky monster, uncontrolled due to the volume of its functions (only at the beginning there were 159, and the number of departments exceeded 50).

The uncontrollability of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade was caused by the unification of heterogeneous, unrelated functions (for example, the regulation of foreign trade and the provision of northern deliveries), as well as the unification of tasks that required different types of management organization. Their combination provided the organizational incompatibility of the corresponding control loops, permanent internal conflict and, as a result, loss of controllability. The Ministry of Economic Development and Trade reminded Kurchatov, who would be commissioned to make an atomic bomb in three years ... subject to simultaneous work by a traffic controller.

The inoperability was aggravated by the lack of professionalism that became the hallmark of “Greekness”: the Minister of Economic Development himself was a lawyer, M. Dmitriev was in charge of pension affairs, he studied banks until 1997, A. Sharonov was in charge of reforming natural monopolies, and A. Dvorkovich, analyzed the budget.

This is probably not accidental: the destructive essence of liberal reforms in Russia precludes their implementation by specialists.

The master of the people's money


In 2007, Gref suddenly headed Sberbank, having left, like Chubais, from the government to a large state-owned company. Probably, he was bored with the apparatus struggle, and he wanted to become the sovereign owner of a large structure that provided him with legal wealth and not administrative, but social and political influence.

Sberbank, which permeated the daily life of the majority of Russians and had branches in all of the more or less significant localities, corresponded to this goal no less than RAO "UES of Russia".

The reform of the Savings Bank caused numerous scandals; so, carried out in a crisis, not really justified, and little-noticed rebranding cost 20 billion.

Gref sharply increased the payment for the top management of Sberbank and in 2013 it became the fifth year, according to Forbes, in terms of the level of payment by the manager of Russia.
With the most severe cuts in the remaining costs, a significant part of the old employees were dismissed, and their place was taken by young people (probably, who agreed to lower salaries), whose effort, I remember, was not often supported by professional knowledge. The result was, as far as can be judged, a drop in the service and reputation of the bank, but also a rise in profits.

The employee who wrote on the social network "If you stick in the Sberbank sign in the open field, she immediately got a line of pensioners," was dismissed, but this joke, it seems, clearly reflected the state of Sberbank during the reform.

The increase in fees for public payments with the widespread introduction of payment in vending machines and Internet banking and the closure of many branches was designed to reduce costs. There was a feeling that Sberbank, earning the main money on corporate clients and financial operations, seeks to minimize live communication with the population, considering it as no more than a source of costs to be reduced, on the basis of conversations about "customer focus".

During the crisis of 2008-2009, Sberbank loans became fatal for a number of businessmen. The classic example is the “IARC”, from which the structures of Sberbank, as you can understand, demanded an early repayment of the loan; the case ended with the destruction of the business, the elimination of the mass of jobs and the criminal prosecution of the creator of “MAIR” Makushin, who was forced to flee the country. The degree of absurdity of the charges is indicated by the refusal of Cyprus to extradite him to Russia - the second for all history relations of our countries.

As a result, the profitability of Sberbank has grown, but its attitude towards it has deteriorated, as far as can be judged. The situation was aggravated by the stories of frequent "technical failures" in Sberbank's pay machines and even in its Internet banking, leading to financial losses for customers. Perhaps this is due to the large volume of operations - however, this was not the case for other banks.

The memorable liberal initiative about the huge megacities' pen of the whole of Russia in 28, which reached the government, was apparently caused by Sberbank’s desire to cut costs. After all, the smaller the settlement, the lower the profitability of the Sberbank branch located in it (in small settlements they may be unprofitable). And to deprive the population of Sberbank because of its unique position is impossible. So, for the maximum efficiency of Sberbank, the entire population should be gathered into huge metropolitan areas.

Consideration of this idea discredited the government apparatus, but it was born, probably, not by evil liberal intent, but only by Gref’s desire to minimize the costs of Sberbank, without regard to anyone’s interests and values.

Man of liberal idea


Gref has a reputation of being a solid marketer, even against the background of Kudrin, who gives the impression of a man who is not burdened by economic knowledge, which certainly strengthens his liberal convictions.

For example, when he took on stimulating investment, it was a surprise to him as the lack of already prepared large investment projects (in 2006, they simply had no place to take), and the fact that they needed at least a year to prepare.

And in July, 2013, when corruption, monopolism, the refusal of Medvedev's government from development, and the colonial WTO norms broke the back of the Russian economy, when industrial production declined, and inhibition of GDP growth promised to go into its decline, Gref said: "Russia has one of the best in the world among all countries of macroeconomic situations. "

According to those who know him, without having an economic education, Gref does not like and cannot lead a reasoned argument. Blind faith in the absolute self-value of private property, the need for the state to leave the economy, excessive social assistance to the population and intolerance for objections very successfully replace knowledge with it.

Gref is quick-tempered; so, at a government meeting, he demanded to punish severely for extremism the people who had burned him stuffed, who were protesting against the criminal sticking of Russia into the WTO on knowingly enslaving conditions. During a visit to Brussels, he, with his subordinates, arranged for the head of the Russian delegation to the European Commission, Fradkov, to be dragged out of his position as prime minister. True, the stories about Gref's promises to "hang on the rope" of his subordinates are accompanied by ritual assurances of his politeness.

When Putin met with the Pope of Rome in 2003, some of the media called Gref a Protestant, and others called a Catholic.

At the St. Petersburg Economic Forum 2012, a completely innocent question suddenly provoked Gref to scandalous candor, revealing the categorical inadmissibility of democracy not only for Russian reformers, but also for modern liberals in general.

“You say terrible things,” Gref said. “You propose to transfer power into the hands of the population ... Once people understand the basis of their own self and identify themselves - to control them, it will be extremely difficult to manipulate. People do not want to be manipulated when they have knowledge. How to live, how to manage such a society, where everyone has equal access to information, everyone has the opportunity to judge directly, to receive non-prepared information through government-trained analysts, political scientists and huge media machines engaged in building and maintaining a social (social) stratum? How can you live in such a society? I get scared by your reasoning; to be honest, I think you don’t quite understand what you are saying. "

Then it seemed to some that Gref's words were a misunderstanding or just a manifestation of his personal, as the Americans say, “alternative talent”.

But now, after the Ukrainian catastrophe, there is no doubt: this is not an accident, but an honest expression of liberal, democratic, European values ​​in their present form.

And the new "masters of life" are so self-satisfied and so despise people that they do not consider it necessary to hide their attitude towards us.
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  1. Stalker
    +15
    4 March 2015 18: 50
    He served in the special forces of the internal troops, whose functions include the escort of dangerous prisoners

    For normal guys, SUCH service was "zapadlo" !!!! And GREF is a goat's beard, everywhere he managed to spoil the people who feed him. And especially in SBERBANK !!!!
    1. +28
      4 March 2015 19: 04
      Special forces of the internal troops never escorted prisoners.
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      2. Stalker
        +4
        4 March 2015 19: 11
        Special forces of the internal troops never escorted prisoners.

        It was said that he was escorting. Apparently the author of the article typed false letters "special forces" ..... hi
        1. +5
          4 March 2015 20: 28
          The author, as not serving, simply does not represent the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and for this reason he will not write anything else.
          1. +3
            5 March 2015 18: 46
            Quote: gunya
            The author, as not serving, simply does not represent the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and for this reason he will not write anything else.

            Guys, the article is about a crooked gref, and not about relationships in the Ministry of Internal Affairs!
      3. +7
        4 March 2015 19: 39
        The escort was carried out by the "key officers" of the GUIN of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    2. +24
      4 March 2015 19: 26
      If Putin allows such people to manage finances, then Putin himself needs it, he doesn’t think otherwise, otherwise he would have dispersed these liberals in the government a long time ago.
      1. +2
        5 March 2015 19: 24
        The author forgot a very important thing: in the St. Petersburg period, the current president was the immediate superior of the gref, they were together involved in some dark affairs that were closed after Skuratov’s resignation, and everything else was both Chubais’s promoters.
    3. 0
      4 March 2015 19: 39
      You say terrible things, - answered Gref. - You propose to transfer power into the hands of the population ... As soon as people understand the basis of their "I" and self-identify - to manage them, it will become extremely difficult to manipulate.

      EXAMPLE- Ukraine, so really it is not necessary, it is necessary to strengthen everything, to revive the Gulag for example,
      1. Alex_Popovson
        +2
        4 March 2015 20: 11
        revive the gulag for example

        Aren't you afraid to get there yourself?
        1. +1
          4 March 2015 23: 00
          Quote: Alex_Popovson
          revive the gulag for example

          Aren't you afraid to get there yourself?

          And he calculates following the example of Gref - "like spetsnaz"
    4. +8
      4 March 2015 20: 07
      Quote: Stalker
      For normal guys, SUCH service was "zapadlo" !!!!

      Yeah, did all normal guys serve in the bread slicer?
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      2. Stalker
        0
        4 March 2015 20: 42
        Yeah, did all normal guys serve in the bread slicer?

        Well, of course !! In your opinion All the landing and marines served only as bread cutters ??? Sometimes turn on your brains shook ..... that !!!! fool
        1. +3
          4 March 2015 22: 51
          Quote: Stalker
          In your opinion All the landing and marines served only as bread cutters ???

          And the signalmen, gunners, submariners, infantry are not fighters and not normal guys, but so-so? Can not be considered soldiers?
    5. +11
      4 March 2015 20: 53
      Quote: Stalker
      For normal guys, SUCH service was "zapadlo" !!!!

      And who should escort criminals - crazy? ..
      You, it seems to me, have a little talk: this is a service, and it is no less important than service in any other kind of army. And the fact that in the convoys there are w.rodes - so they are found everywhere! And in the Airborne Forces, in particular, too.
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      2. Stalker
        -2
        4 March 2015 21: 14
        And who should escort criminals - crazy? ..
        You, it seems to me, have a little talk: this is a service, and it is no less important than service in any other kind of army. And the fact that in the convoys there are w.rodes - so they are found everywhere! And in the Airborne Forces, in particular, too.


        Heard about the escorts ... And from his nephew too !!! Therefore, he wrote so ...
        1. +2
          4 March 2015 21: 32
          Quote: Stalker
          Heard about the escorts

          Quote: Stalker
          in the convoy found u.rody

          request Alas! .. Partly, I suppose, because “to live with wolves - to howl like a wolf!”, Or “with whom you will lead ..” Although there are those who like to humiliate others - even more so, having such a “cover”.
        2. +4
          4 March 2015 22: 50
          Quote: Stalker
          Heard about the escorts ... And from his nephew too !!! Therefore, he wrote so ...

          Which side of the barricades is your nephew? If of those who were escorted, then his opinion about the escorts is clear. If he himself was escorting, then "smearing" colleagues does not paint him. Or maybe your uncle had a hand in education?
          1. Stalker
            0
            5 March 2015 17: 29
            Regarding uncle, you better shut up if you do not know him personally !!!!! fool
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        3. +3
          5 March 2015 00: 16
          And they didn’t escort the nephew? If so, then everything is logical.
          He served in the BB, though since 2001, and, as I understand it, the FSIN transferred the functions of escort in 1999. There was a company of special forces in the unit, the guys are pretty cool, I don’t think that they can drive specialists for days at a training session, so that they can guard the convicts later.
          By the way, bread-cutters, as a rule, are also powerful guys :))
          1. +1
            5 March 2015 08: 18
            Quote: cobine
            bread cutters, as a rule, are also powerful guys :))

            laughing Still would! Just not in those places! belay laughing
          2. Stalker
            0
            5 March 2015 17: 33
            And they didn’t escort the nephew? If yes, then everything is logical

            We have a saying in the Airborne Forces if you want to dawn the innocent - the chukhan himself !! This is in your address !!!!
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          5. Stalker
            0
            5 March 2015 18: 26
            And they didn’t escort the nephew? If so, then everything is logical.


            We have a saying in the Airborne Forces if you want to conceive @ rit innocent - he is a chukhan !! This is in your address !!!!
        4. 0
          5 March 2015 19: 58
          I am wildly sorry, but your nephew, he is escorted or escorted.
    6. 0
      4 March 2015 21: 12
      To the bucket of it
    7. 0
      4 March 2015 22: 09
      I myself, as it were, are not a fan of Gref, but as soon as I feel antipathy ..
      Nevertheless, I responsibly declare that the whole article is a stupid and rash shit. I will not list all the moments of outright lies, here is one that everyone can check:
      Prior to Gref's arrival in Sberbank, the quality of customer service was frankly shitty. He himself has repeatedly heard math from the cashiers at the client’s address, not to mention the amenities, the time in the queue, which has now been reduced significantly.
      Sofas for clients, electronic lines, polite treatment appeared exclusively under Gref.
      Another thing, at what cost it was achieved, it can be discussed, but the fact is indisputable - the service before and after can not be compared. Article minus for bias and falsehood.
      PS. And comments in the style of "I will not think and analyze, but Panda - get out!" generally amazed. Did you get infected from the Maydauns, or what?
      1. +2
        4 March 2015 23: 36
        Sber used to work on Saturdays, and from 8-30 on weekdays until 19-30, which was convenient for customers. Mata never heard in 30 years. Workers of the Dogref period of the top staff speak of Gref as a layman. So who is lying?
        1. -1
          5 March 2015 01: 48
          On Saturdays and now branches work. They didn’t hear Mata, but I and 100500 people heard. And the matter is not in the mate as such, but in rudeness and disregard for attitude. Now such an extreme rarity, you can complain to management or write to banks.ru. Do not forget that there was a lunch break earlier, and now I did not meet Sber’s offices with lunch. And before 19.30 one branch out of 10 used to work, and not all.
          Further, clients stood like a herd, now there are sofas, electronic lines (not everywhere), water coolers. Yes, a lot of amenities and innovations.
          Quote: fzr1000
          So who is lying?

          Indeed, who has forgotten about 2-3 hour queuing because of nonsense? Who does not use online services or a mobile bank, ATMs and terminals on every corner, who communicates not through a narrow window, but face to face with a polite girl: "Hello! How can I contact you" instead of "Next! Who is next ?! ! "
          Workers of the Dogref period of the top staff speak of Gref as a layman.

          So it is, in my opinion. At least Gref was not involved in banking before Sberbank, so what professionalism is there?
          Stalin, forgive me, also did not understand all areas of the economy - nevertheless, he forced specialists to achieve success. Gref did the same, cutting off some of them, bullying the majority and moving "the necessary and faithful, going over their heads."
          One does not exclude the other. It is foolish to deny obvious advantages to customers.
      2. -1
        5 March 2015 20: 01
        You, apparently, go to some other "savings bank".
        1. 0
          5 March 2015 21: 12
          The floor is yours: compare customer service before and after the Gref reforms. Or do you absolutely do not care about how you are served?
    8. +1
      5 March 2015 09: 07
      Quote: Stalker
      For normal guys, SUCH service was "zapadlo" !!!!

      It’s not normal to sit on the courts, but to serve of course laughing I "respect" such cleanliness. There is an honorable service and there is a dirty one. And bad escorts (kankretennyh boys) press nothing for dirty.
    9. 0
      5 March 2015 19: 54
      Serving in general in the BB was a zapadlo for "real guys". I remember how one of my acquaintances, having come to demobilization, made excuses to every freak "... I did not guard the prisoners ...". And for normal guys, service is service. And on the topic, yes, Gref is rare. I even think that it was not his mother who gave birth to him, but a passive homosexual on a stump you..al.
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  3. +20
    4 March 2015 18: 54
    Valuable shot. Ukrainian beauty would be like that - and take a walk on the bridge.
    1. +3
      4 March 2015 19: 21
      Quote: KBR109
      Valuable shot. Ukrainian beauty would be like that - and take a walk on the bridge.

      It is possible without the beauty, and under the bridge "swim" with a kettlebell on a "Faberge" ...
      Seriously, in the government there are many ....
      1. +2
        4 March 2015 20: 08
        It is a pity that everyone on the bridge will not fit, for these it is time to remember why there is a "place of execution" on the red square and use it as intended.
  4. +9
    4 March 2015 18: 56
    In our city, Sberbank built a gorgeous palace, apparently counting on huge profits, but three years later the second floor was already leased ... However, Rosselkhozbank similarly owns a slightly more modest palace, the second floor is also leased ...
    1. 0
      4 March 2015 19: 46
      Our Rosselkhoznavoz closed a bunch of its branches, where people received wages and saved money. How to understand?
  5. +2
    4 March 2015 18: 58
    A mistake with Nemtsov came out ... they messed with Hero.
  6. +4
    4 March 2015 19: 10
    Gref is blue. Plus this moment to the information from the article and draw conclusions.
    1. +1
      4 March 2015 19: 46
      What, escorted in time ?! belay And, he clearly pleased the new liberal liberals in the government! Oh, to my liking ...
    2. +1
      4 March 2015 19: 47
      Blue? From where infa? Justify.
      1. heccrbq06
        0
        4 March 2015 21: 09
        Justify --- laughing This is how he will justify you? laughing Do you need a video or a witness or a victim? laughing
      2. +1
        4 March 2015 21: 33
        Quote: gunter_laux
        Blue? From where infa? Justify.

        Specifically, according to Aunt Gere:
        http://compromatwiki.org/wiki/Тетя_Гера
        http://rurik-l.livejournal.com/342394.html
        Moreover, surrounded by Putin, poking a finger is pretty hard not to get into a fag. In a network of incriminating evidence - you scum.
    3. Alex_Popovson
      0
      4 March 2015 20: 12
      Gref is blue.

      Excuse me, where did the information come from?
      1. +1
        4 March 2015 20: 33
        Guys, well, you give. Fumble, find. This is an open secret.
      2. +1
        4 March 2015 20: 58
        For example

        http://stockinfocus.ru/2014/12/29/gei-v-rossijskoj-elite-top-2014/
  7. +3
    4 March 2015 19: 14
    EVEN I DID NOT READ, EVERYBODY KNOWS BAD and has done a lot of harm, but no one removes, and Nemtsov did not threaten or do anything, but removed
    1. 0
      4 March 2015 19: 30
      Here, here, but die or perish, as a reformer and genius, as Nemtsov turns out to be.
      1. ivan.ru
        0
        4 March 2015 19: 52
        Such a bastard, just like the Germans. Surely someone is already preparing
        1. +1
          4 March 2015 20: 32
          Every vegetable has its own time.
      2. +2
        4 March 2015 20: 57
        Quote: Vorchun
        reformer and genius, as Nemtsov turns out to be.

        To be fair, Nemtsov was a deputy prime minister, not a prime minister. And at the same time Chubais was the Deputy Prime Minister. But Chubais after that sat at RAO UES, where he twisted - "Mama do not cry!", Now at "Rusnano" - all the time in "warm" places. And Nemtsov turned out to be "out of work" .. Does it lead to reflections? "Friends" will always be attached ..
      3. 0
        4 March 2015 21: 18
        The fighters got into an incomprehensible story,
        They wanted Gref, but ate Boria
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    2. 0
      4 March 2015 20: 05
      Therefore, they removed it because it didn’t threaten anything or disturb anyone, but only crap and fraternized with renegades. These craps until the last believe that their clownish cap looks like a crown.
    3. +1
      5 March 2015 03: 30
      Nemtsov, being the governor of the Nizhny Novgorod region, was selling property.
  8. +2
    4 March 2015 19: 26
    Diversified "personality". And he destroyed it there, and here it destroyed it, and there he stole it. It's time for him to cook a place on a bunk or on a bridge.
  9. +7
    4 March 2015 19: 35
    Yes, such as Gref fingers are not enough to count.
    In general, not one of the current leaders in power spoke out publicly about the future of Russia, about the annexation of Crimea, about its attitude to New Russia.
    The whole government and state-owned companies of Russia are in a fog! They make money for themselves and wait for it to end.
    And we hope for their initiative to overcome the crisis, damn sanctions and solve problems in the economy, fair import substitution by our manufacturer, and not by substituting labels and price tags and not lobbying for interests alien to us.
    1. +2
      4 March 2015 21: 03
      Quote: individ
      And we hope

      So what to do? request "Hope dies last!"
      I think no one expects real steps to improve the economy from the current cabinet - everyone is waiting for, when, finally, our liberal (in his own words!) President "will see clearly", and will understand WHO are the main enemies of Russia! am
  10. +1
    4 March 2015 19: 40
    not in the eyebrow. and in the eye! When GOG leaves Sberbank - the booze will be cooler than in the Russian Defense Ministry after leaving Serdyukov! drinks
    1. +1
      4 March 2015 20: 10
      When his best friends condemn him, then this one will leave, or rather, cross the bridge in the company of a Ukrainian whore.
  11. +6
    4 March 2015 19: 41
    Putin doesn’t have a minister, he is a liberal, with rare exceptions. One is only sun-faced beyond suspicion.
  12. +2
    4 March 2015 19: 44
    Gref tyrant, what else to look for! There is a known case when they ordered a table in his office, when he came to Sberbank, on Vavilov Street. The brought table did not pass either at the door or at the window. Gref did not come up with anything better than to order to dismantle the roof of a multi-story building and use a helicopter to raise and lower the table through the dismantled roof into the office! How much money it took to order a table, its manufacture and delivery, disassembly and restoration of the roof, helicopter rental - the story is silent about this.
    1. +1
      4 March 2015 20: 13
      how much was it easier to ask the governor of Sakhalin, the "brothers" worked according to the same patterns
    2. 0
      5 March 2015 00: 24
      Are you and the author competing in the amount of unfounded tales or something?
  13. +6
    4 March 2015 20: 18
    I respect Mikhail, I correspond with him in VKontakte, it is not a sin to allow such a person to come to power! Mikhail Delyagin is a true patriot and a competent economist. His articles are the thoughts that all honest people say today, and about which there is not a word in central newspapers and on TV. But "you can't hide an awl in a sack", and I am glad that they started talking about it in wide public circles. Businessmen like Gref, Dvarkovich, Chubais, Serdyukov, Yakunin are a real shame of our State! Until they are in power, there is no idea, no strategy, nothing will happen! The goal of these people is personal enrichment, and their activities are worthy of a nationwide judgment. Of course, it is known that the President is behind them, and this makes it even harder.
  14. act
    act
    +1
    4 March 2015 20: 18
    Government members and ministers are about the same, among the gray-green swamps and frogs of the same color.
  15. zol1
    +2
    4 March 2015 20: 20
    “You say terrible things,” Gref said. “You propose to transfer power into the hands of the population ... Once people understand the basis of their own self and identify themselves - to control them, it will be extremely difficult to manipulate. People do not want to be manipulated when they have knowledge. How to live, how to manage such a society, where everyone has equal access to information, everyone has the opportunity to judge directly, to receive non-prepared information through government-trained analysts, political scientists and huge media machines engaged in building and maintaining a social (social) stratum? How can you live in such a society? I get scared by your reasoning; to be honest, I think you don’t quite understand what you are saying. "


    Pure theory of the creation of a herd society (it seems like "fucking Gref" carefully studied Adolf's Mein Kampf, very much in tune), with a low level of knowledge, which is easy to manage by manipulating in their own interests. Roughly speaking, for such neurasthenics as Gref, the people are "cattle", which gets underfoot, preventing them from doing "business" on the money of the same "cattle". Before the 17th year, some of those in power had a similar opinion about the people, how it ended, I hope many people know!
    1. +1
      4 March 2015 21: 39
      In 1917 it was a bit easier.
      Now the Anglo-Saxons have developed too many programs to process the population. And since the 90s, these programs have been successfully implemented in Russia. For example, Khodorkovsky introduced a training program starting from the 6th grade. It is estimated that up to 2004, about a million students were trained. Their main motto: There will be oil, there will be money. In summer camps, students wear T-shirts with a portrait of Khodorkovsky and study his autobiography. All this was described in the article: "Jugendland named after Khodorkovsky" in 2004. So, when Khodorkovsky declares his desire to become president, it is no coincidence. He has already prepared a part of the electorate.
      And the other day I read an article on the forum:
      In Transbaikalia, a program is being introduced to divide children into castes, starting from day nurseries and to universities. There will be 4 castes: workers, agricultural workers, staff and the elite. Parents are removed from the selection process. Teachers who disagree with the project are invited to quit and not talk about it.
  16. +4
    4 March 2015 20: 37
    Satan rules the ball there ... hereinafter. Eticka’s strength, and how does this curve Gref differ from Yatsenyuk and other ruin ministers? But the goat enjoys the highest confidence!
  17. ipshum
    +3
    4 March 2015 20: 40
    On stake! am No options!
  18. +5
    4 March 2015 20: 41
    This article gives a good understanding of the meaning of such a term as "enemy of the people". So, the enemies of the people is not a myth, it is a harsh reality.
  19. +3
    4 March 2015 20: 42
    There is such a profession son, to steal in the homeland .....
  20. -1
    4 March 2015 20: 45
    and Gref was an excellent melee and sniper .... Yes
  21. +4
    4 March 2015 20: 53
    How do these grefs-we know, that's just how they got into the supreme power and why they still do their dirty deed-it is not clear! Rather, it’s clear that what they are doing today is not tyranny, such as dismantling the roof and putting a table in their office with a helicopter, this is a systematic and deeply thought-out enrichment of the West by them, the size of the withdrawal of capital from Russia, according to experts, exceeds $ 1 trillion.
    Russia was and will be for such grefs the territory of the natives, who are kept by the millions below the poverty line and nothing changes - they are fattening, the population is impoverished!
    Why not take it, all around corruption and speculation, health care have been improved to the point that there are simply no words, the price of medicines has been lifted up, and they themselves don’t know what to do! And if only medication !?
    This uncontrolled, speculative non-market economy only breeds pharmacies and funeral homes - a very profitable business of profit in our time! But these grefs and their accomplices are doing everything to ensure that Russia dies out, supposedly there is no money, they have not all been taken out and continue to be exported and taken abroad!
  22. +6
    4 March 2015 21: 45
    One small example that fully characterizes Gref as a leader. He is really not an economist and not one of those who seek to at least somehow fill the gaps in his education. Therefore, it often bears such a thing, from which specialists stand on end. Here he is not alone. "Young reformers" all carry this, with aplomb. So, in one of his overseas missions, he gave foreigners his idea of ​​foreign trade. The foreigners giggled frankly, but restrained themselves, did not argue, nevertheless the Minister (at that moment he was the Minister). After the meeting, our trade representative in this country explained to Gref (in private) how things really are. It would be better not to explain, because he flew out of his post and from the country at 24 o’clock. In addition, Gref cheated on him in full. Meanwhile, trade representatives from ordinary people are not appointed. Here everything is quick-tempered, and arrogance, and tyranny, and most importantly omnipotence. Gref is part of a narrow circle of people who really rule Russia. By the way, the repression against the trade representative was explained by the fact that the latter does not know the language of the host country well. Knowledge of a foreign language is the very point that makes "young reformers" experts in everything and everything in their own eyes. And the economy, why is it to them. For so many years they have been playing tricks, but Russia is still alive.
  23. +1
    4 March 2015 22: 33
    A good article ---- I add that on the conscience of this figure the collapse of our domestic civil aviation industry
  24. +1
    4 March 2015 22: 38
    What nonentities sometimes rule a ball in a white-stone.
  25. +1
    4 March 2015 22: 42
    Quote: Stalker
    He served in the special forces of the internal troops, whose functions include the escort of dangerous prisoners

    For normal guys, SUCH service was "zapadlo" !!!! And GREF is a goat's beard, everywhere he managed to spoil the people who feed him. And especially in SBERBANK !!!!

    And in general, in the military registration and enlistment office they did not particularly ask whom where to call. True, there was some division: completely gouging was sent to guard the zones, those who were smarter - to guard sensitive facilities, athletes - to ODON and the operative regiments. And about shoulder straps they said - "BB - the military enlistment office is to blame." I think it is not in the internal troops that one should look for the cause of the country's economic failures during the period of liberal rule.
  26. +1
    4 March 2015 22: 48
    Alexander Suvorov said that after two years of service any army quartermaster can be shot without trial ...

    Gref both in KUMI (KUGI) and in the housing and communal services was noted ... I’m not talking about today ... What would the great generalissimo say about him today - it’s even incomprehensible to the mind ...
  27. 0
    4 March 2015 22: 48
    Unfortunately money sticks to your hands! Here the governor of Sakhalin was arrested (I thought a hundred would not get far) !. It is necessary to hang up as in China, only to tear off eggs at first and then to hang up !.
  28. +3
    4 March 2015 23: 18
    How many years have passed since the 90s! And the raking hand of Sobchak reaches out, damned!
    It takes at least three generations for the bloody bandits to be cleansed of sin (s), to become lamb and righteous, teaching us an honest life. Worn down to holes -
    "For every major state ..." (c)
    PS Approach to the "Politics" sports equipment and departure from it
    Messrs. Abramovichs, Prokhorovs ...
  29. +1
    4 March 2015 23: 54
    These are NOT people, they completely lack a sense of compassion and love for their people, only intrigues, money and power are of interest to strangers. Once by coincidence, faced with those in power in troubled times and having earned their trust, these strangers with dirty hands and black heart climb to the top along the road selling and betraying everything and everything, terribly hating the people from whom they recently left and who they are brazenly robbing worse than any invaders. I hope that VV has the political will to break their neck here, and then deal with them the owners there, it’s very difficult to wage a war on two fronts with traitors at headquarters. Russia as it stood and will stand, and this aristocracy will soon merge from the trash like dirty foam for anyone. It is difficult to live in the ERA CHANGE !!!
  30. +1
    5 March 2015 00: 13
    Gref is a typical character of the post-Petrine era of Biron. By the way, the article does not mention his marriage ceremony in one of the royal palaces (a story that clearly characterizes this statesman).
  31. 0
    5 March 2015 01: 39
    Quote: jPilot
    It is a pity that everyone on the bridge will not fit, for these it is time to remember why there is a "place of execution" on the red square and use it as intended.

    In addition, the cemetery is nearby)))
  32. +1
    5 March 2015 01: 49
    Only one of his surnames drives me into depression.
  33. +1
    5 March 2015 02: 56
    It’s time to escort this bearded kid .... To Magadan, grow bananas in the open ground .. At least until the first harvest ...
  34. 0
    5 March 2015 08: 44
    Quote: bubla5
    Nemtsov did not threaten or do anything, but removed

    For this they removed it.
  35. 0
    5 March 2015 09: 10
    Quote: lidiy
    And the other day I read an article on the forum:
    In Transbaikalia, a program is being introduced to divide children into castes, starting from day nurseries and to universities. There will be 4 castes: workers, agricultural workers, staff and the elite. Parents are removed from the selection process. Teachers who disagree with the project are invited to quit and not talk about it

    Aldous Huxley's book "This Wonderful World" has been posted on the Internet. What you are writing about is the implementation of the ideas outlined in this book.
  36. Stalker
    0
    5 March 2015 17: 36
    Quote: Kazakh
    Quote: Stalker
    For normal guys, SUCH service was "zapadlo" !!!!

    It’s not normal to sit on the courts, but to serve of course laughing I "respect" such cleanliness. There is an honorable service and there is a dirty one. And bad escorts (kankretennyh boys) press nothing for dirty.


    If before the army he was engaged in parachute jumps in DOSAAF - they will not send convoys .... hi
  37. 0
    2 December 2017 21: 25
    Sberbank of America. Where do we moisten our hard-earned money? What are they going to? Why does Putilovtsy need this?

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