Mass riots are brewing in Ukraine

Mass riots are brewing in UkraineHow much time is needed to turn from a national leader into a hated antihero in all? As shown, it takes less than two years.


Having come to power, Yanukovych not only did not improve the economic and cultural condition in Ukraine, on the contrary, aggravated him. Corruption under the current president has gained hitherto unprecedented momentum, there was even a special layer of corruption - the now ruling party of the regions.

If yesterday it was possible to say with confidence about the support of the East and the South of Ukraine, then today it is impossible to talk about it. The only thing that Yanukovych’s team was capable of is an increase in the rating of ultranationalist parties. For example, in the native for the head of the state of Donetsk region, today's ultra-right nationalist rating comes to 4%, compared to 0,2% two years ago. Today, nationalists are campaigning, and if two years ago they were simply not taken seriously, now even in Donetsk, their words fall on fertile ground.

The economic policy of Ukraine over the past two years has plunged the country into a de facto new economic crisis and is threatening with social explosions. On September 20, the protesters against the abolition of benefits, the Afghans stormed the Verkhovna Rada, the deputies from the pro-presidential faction left the parliament building through the "black" exit. The detachments of the "Berkut" (OMON) were able to stop the crowd this time thanks to superiority in numbers and tear gas. But the protesters at the walls of parliament were no more than a thousand, and only a few hundred took part in the storming.



Clashes between the police and the people have become commonplace in Ukraine, and the advantage here is no longer on the side of the police. While the rally was only one thousand, the police were able to contain the crowd, but today businessmen and civil activists are organizing new meetings, and if yesterday’s largest rally did not exceed ten thousand, then today it will be much more.

As president, Yanukovych managed to do what no other Ukrainian leader managed to do - to unite the East, the West, the North, the Center and the South against himself.
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  1. Arban2007 22 September 2011 07: 41 New
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    tear Ukraine apart
    1. Vadivak 22 September 2011 09: 41 New
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      Already on this topic, football words make up: "Thanks to the residents of Donbass for the president ........
    2. Bogatir
      Bogatir 22 September 2011 10: 42 New
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      Demonstrations and civil gatherings are possible in Ukraine - which cannot be said in totalitarian countries.
    3. Bogatir
      Bogatir 22 September 2011 10: 54 New
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      Demonstrations and civil gatherings are possible in Ukraine - which cannot be said in totalitarian countries.
    4. Bogatir
      Bogatir 22 September 2011 10: 54 New
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      Demonstrations and civil gatherings are possible in Ukraine - which cannot be said in totalitarian countries.
  2. Bogatir
    Bogatir 22 September 2011 10: 55 New
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    This whole rhetoric can be analyzed in the spirit of the fact that - it doesn’t matter who President Yushinko or Yanukovych is. The main thing is that he merges those who do not have their own - Ukrainian interests.
    I doubt that such a practice will be effective in Ukraine. Two - for a part of the population of the Russian Federation this will be imperially significant for cheers, but no more.
  3. Bogatir
    Bogatir 22 September 2011 11: 15 New
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    And now let's look at the eloquent title "Mass riots ripen in Ukraine."
    Yes, Yanukovych tried to impose the totalitarian form and model of the Kremlin, but Kuchma correctly said - "Ukraine is not Russia." Here they can endure on a pitchfork - as with Nalyvayk, Pugachev, Makhno, demonstrations of 90-91, the Orange Revolution.
    To the topic - where are the "riots"? You can see in Medvedev’s phrase about “the Arab script, which they prepared for us,” in the creation of squads of snipers for the “Arab scripts”, which are currently undergoing exercises to work out the fight against civil discontent “according to the Arab scripts”.
    This is how Kremlin shepherds relate to the people - the period of centuries of totalitarian rule based on shelter and fear - continues.
    For a long time I wanted to see Lungin's film "Island", I found half a year ago a license - a good film. On the wings of the “Island”, there was a desire to watch a film by the same director with actors - Mamonov, Yankovsky (who was applauded in Venice standing), presidential condate Okhlobystin.
    As a result, he didn’t get any pleasure, because he looked at everything through just the prism of building the Kremlin’s power. - Strict personal centralization of power, the Tsar-President-Shepherd, a people without a tribe, a state on blood and fear, the only consulting link - the church, the church is not spirituality - but an instrument of the Kremlin. Horror is complete immorality, and the complete discredit of spirituality.
    1. Bogatir
      Bogatir 22 September 2011 11: 43 New
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      Yes, Lungin’s second film is King.
      1. Magadan 22 September 2011 12: 54 New
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        Bogatir,
        We can’t afford such orange affairs in Russia - the “Western partners” will immediately demolish us, and in the East, the Japanese and the Chinese. We have been forced to hold the defense for several centuries, defending the land as we can, where 30% of the world's resources belong to 1.5% of the global population.
        That in Ukraine a free-ship is great and I am sincerely happy for my historical homeland (I am from Dnepropetrovsk), but God forbid, riots will begin!
        It is not necessary to slander the Church - it will never be any political instrument.
        1. Bogatir
          Bogatir 22 September 2011 13: 24 New
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          Quote: Magadan
          It is not necessary to slander the Church - it will never be any political instrument.

          - Well then ... The functions of the herald of the "Russian world", which is historical lies, are laid on the KGBist Gundyaev.
          To which there was already a recent remark by the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew and the heads of the oldest Orthodox churches in the world - that Cyril should adhere to his canonical territory, defined by documents of a half thousand years ago.
          http://rupor.info/news-obshhestvo/2011/09/05/kostantinopol-posovetoval-moskovski

          m-popam-ubrat-r /
          http://delo.ua/ukraine/patriarhi-starejshih-cerkvej-vystupili-protiv-vlijanija-k

          irilla-na-163873 /
          http://pics.livejournal.com/oleg_leusenko/pic/004a69xg/s640x480
          Now back to the country and its "means." Now in Russia, the KGB government, what is the Russian Orthodox Church? - This is a fragment of the Soviet system, which Stalin rejoiced during World War II to raise the spirituality and hope of the population. Soviet-style Russian Orthodox Church - these are all ministers full-time KGB staff. Gundyaev is no exception, all the more in the service of the church was - for public relations earlier. After the death of the previous patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church, it is no secret that the Kiev metropolitan was to become a patriarch. But the KGB operation was carried out - and Cyril became the patriarch. This is Kirill Gundyaev, who has made many millions - on the smuggling of tobacco, elite alcohol, diamonds, banking and hotel business (a worthy cause for the patriarch - yes?). So his watch for eleven thousand euros is only a slightly noticeable tip.
          This Tambov comrade was chosen (as the Kremlin’s instrument was before) - as the main herald of the historical myth of the “Russian world”. Gundyaev’s task for this year was to eliminate the practically independent ROC KP, for which he was even ready to move to Kiev, but this business ended for him — a heart attack this summer.
          The Russian Orthodox Church, sadly, is a rotten KGB and RI car. With a political pseudo-anathema, Mazepa - the main church-builder of that era and a philanthropist, now - again they started talking about the political "Russian-peaceful anathema" to the apostates. “Only who's an apostate?” Yanukovych with national interests? - They forgot what prayers in churches were giving out for Yanukovych (politics is a shame for any church). Do not your prayers sing - "For the health of Vladimir and Dmitry? ..."
          - Thu ... recourse
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          So in the film "Tsar" - Metropolitan Solovetsky is shown, which are no longer in the rotten Kremlin clergy
          1. Bogatir
            Bogatir 22 September 2011 13: 57 New
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            You prompted me to unexpected new thoughts ...
            - One of the main shrines of the Russian Orthodox Church is the Solovetsky Monastery. - At the same time, the main historical prison is the political enemies of the Kremlin. And this fact - you can’t interpret it in any other way ...
        2. nnz226 24 September 2011 12: 41 New
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          Quote: “It is not necessary to slander the Church - it will never be any political instrument.”
          Yeah! Especially if you look at the UOC of the Kiev "patriarchy" headed by Filaret, anathematized in the Russian Orthodox Church. Ento - what? Not a political project of an independent territory ??? How miserable Yushchenko was worn out that it would be legalized through recognition by at least some of the Orthodox Patriarchs ...
          And Yanukovych, since he got a dilapidated economy that you just won’t revive (“thank you” for the orange!), He could realize his slogans for his image, like: Russian is the second state language in Ukraine, look, east and south would support it. And so: nowhere are any shifts for the better - this is the result ...
    2. Tyumen
      Tyumen 22 September 2011 21: 26 New
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      I didn’t get any pleasure, because I looked at everything through just the prism of building the Kremlin’s power.

      How do you shit in Ukraine that you look at life like that.
    3. Tyumen
      Tyumen 22 September 2011 21: 28 New
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      I didn’t get any pleasure, because I looked at everything through just the prism of building the Kremlin’s power.

      How do you shit in Ukraine that you look at life like that.
  4. mitrich
    mitrich 22 September 2011 11: 24 New
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    However, what Ukrainian users of the site are patriots of their native land ... Mountain envy for the Nenka and its government, even takes envy!
    Only on Saturday, September 24.09, Mr. Yanukovych in Zavidovo still has to answer a simple and simple question: who are you, friend, and fraternal Ukrainian people with you? With Russia or the West? I read that the "meadow" is already covered, the communication time is not limited ...
    So on Monday I expect a noble website site hohlosrach.
    1. Bogatir
      Bogatir 22 September 2011 11: 36 New
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      Quote: mitrich
      However, what Ukrainian users of the site are patriots of their native land ... Mountain envy for the Nenka and its government, even takes envy!

      - Yes, right - it doesn’t matter how I personally feel about our president, but for everyone in the world - he is the president of my State.
      Quote: mitrich
      September 24.09, Mr. Yanukovych in Zavidovo still has to answer a simple and simple question: who are you, friend, and fraternal Ukrainian people with you?

      - Vectors have already been written for a long time. The most important thing should be the concept of the Russians - that there is no discussion in Ukraine with anyone "friendlier" (or-or) - there is "and-and." The vector and values ​​are European, and with Russia, we have and will have a common cordon and economic ties always. So for adequacy, it is time for Russians to understand - there is no talk with anyone, there is only a productive concept - how ?. - The answer to this question is simple - civilized relations based on international principles - the rule of law, law and equality.
      1. mitrich
        mitrich 22 September 2011 11: 43 New
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        Bogatir,
        according to our democratic laws, one woman cannot have two husbands wink .
        1. Bogatir
          Bogatir 22 September 2011 11: 49 New
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          Quote: mitrich
          according to our democratic laws, one woman cannot have two husbands

          - This is the level, sorry - of a communal apartment, but no more. And in the courtyard of the 21st century - did not notice?
          1. mitrich
            mitrich 22 September 2011 12: 06 New
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            Bogatir,
            I'm glad that you have a sense of humor of an advanced person. I will not put a minus for parity wink . I say goodbye to you until Monday.
        2. Splin
          Splin 22 September 2011 13: 44 New
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          Isn’t it easier to figure out for three? Che Ukraine considered a woman and not a neighbor?
          1. mitrich
            mitrich 22 September 2011 13: 50 New
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            Splin,
            as you please, the matter is not in the wording, the main thing is that the kurultai should be useful and mutually beneficial for both parties. Don’t be offended by a woman - I have such humor, I didn’t study at MGIMO.
            1. Splin
              Splin 22 September 2011 14: 02 New
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              Saturday is just around the corner. But it is unlikely to agree.
              1. Bogatir
                Bogatir 22 September 2011 14: 14 New
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                Here is an interesting letter from the fifth column:

                "Dear Dmitry Anatolyevich!
                We are deeply concerned about the growing deterioration of Russian-Ukrainian relations due to disputes over the price of natural gas. It is quite obvious that behind this conflict other economic, political, and behind them, geopolitical differences will inevitably arise. It is easy to predict that the consequences of these differences will destabilize the domestic political situation in Ukraine and ultranationalist anti-Russian forces will again come to power in the country.
                The victory of Viktor Yanukovych in the presidential election in Ukraine in 2010 was met with enthusiasm in Russia. We were sure that the gloomy period of our relationship, associated with the name of former President Viktor Yushchenko, was over. We were sure that the period of building friendly relations and a genuine strategic partnership between the two Slavic states would begin.
                We were not mistaken. Russia and Ukraine quickly found a solution to the most acute problem around the Black Sea Fleet's naval base in Sevastopol. An integration program was developed in the nuclear, energy, aerospace and shipbuilding fields. Ukraine has announced a commitment to a neutral and non-aligned course. The times of persecution of the Russian language and Russian culture are gone.
                We sincerely hoped that Russia and Ukraine would be bound by such deep bonds that no other government would be able to break these ties of cooperation and friendship.
                Unfortunately, unexpectedly for all of us, our strategic partnership tripped on gas prices. The economic dispute between the Russian Gazprom and Neftegaz of Ukraine has become disproportionate and threatens to bring down our achievements.
                The heated media controversy, statements by politicians on the gas issue threaten to separate two fraternal peoples on opposite sides of the barricades. Serious geopolitical threats to our common economic and political security are clearly looming behind these disputes.
                We are deeply convinced that Russia's security cannot be ensured without friendly Ukraine. And vice versa.
                In the emerging conflict between Russia and Ukraine, there will be, and indeed will be, interference from outside forces seeking to clash the two fraternal peoples. Thus, the West, through its protege in Georgia, will try to re-form the Baltic-Black Sea Alliance with the goal of isolating Russia. As a result, an arc of instability Ukraine – Georgia – North Caucasus will be created on the southern borders of Russia. The USA will become the inspirers of it, more than once they have tried to provoke a military conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
                At the peak of the conflict, Ukraine will be intensely pushed to abandon non-aligned status and join NATO. The right-wing nationalist opposition will resume pro-NATO propaganda.
                The Kharkov agreements are also in jeopardy. Some people in Russia are already pushing us to denounce the agreements and leave Sevastopol, the city of Russian military glory. But we cannot leave Sevastopol, leave Russian citizens in this city, renounce the heroic page of our past!
                We should not forget that the enemies of Russia are extremely interested in the split of the Eastern Slavic Orthodox civilization. And even more so, they will welcome if the split is carried out by the hands of Moscow. The propaganda war that has begun between the two countries today will entail undermining Russia's influence among the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine.
                In such a situation, political losses for the authorities of the two countries can become catastrophic. We, the Russians, will have to bear our share of responsibility for the fact that the ideas of Slavic unity were discredited, and the high principles of strategic partnership were reduced to a banal bazaar.
                The other day, the Patriarch of Bartholomew of Constantinople has already declared Ukraine its canonical territory. And this is only the first salvo of war, which can lead to the destruction of the common cultural, historical and religious space, to the collapse of a single Orthodox Church in the post-Soviet space, to the discrediting of the idea of ​​East Slavic Orthodox civilization.
                The politicians of Russia and Ukraine should avoid any mutual accusations, urgently sit down at the negotiating table and resolve all conflicts in the spirit of the principles of strategic partnership.
                A global financial and economic crisis is coming with serious social consequences. The world is threatened by regional conflicts and wars. The struggle for the spheres of economic and geopolitical influence is escalating. If we want to survive, if we want to win, as we already won in World War II, then we must lend a helping hand to the fraternal Ukrainian people, with whom our destiny is inextricably linked.
                Ivashov L.G. - President of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences, Colonel General.
                Komoyedov V.P. - Admiral, commander of the Black Sea Fleet (1998–2002).
                Leonov N.S. - Lieutenant General of the KGB of the USSR.
                Ovchinsky BC - Major General of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Director of the Bureau of Interpol in the Russian Federation (1997–1999).
                Prokhanov A.A. - Chief Editor of the newspaper "Tomorrow".
                Rodionov I.N. - Army General, Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation (1996–1997). "
                1. Joker
                  Joker 22 September 2011 14: 24 New
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                  And who says that they are representatives of the 5th column? No matter how they exterminated or ridiculed people who are glad they are still there, and this cannot but rejoice. But who currently has real power? This is a rhetorical question.
                  1. Bogatir
                    Bogatir 22 September 2011 15: 03 New
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                    Well, these are just a few people - and even the Soviet army, the minister and the KGB. It doesn’t say anything - they are people of that system and mindset. And among other things - this is the temporary heritage of the USSR in the Crimea. Since there was a policy for services to the NKVD, the KGB, the army and the navy - to settle in the Crimea. There are many gulag executors who have committed many crimes against humanity.
                    Quote: Joker
                    But who currently has real power?

                    - And this is the deportation of the provocateurs on the ferry to Kerch.
                    PS
                    The main emphasis for which this letter brought here.
                    - It’s that even representatives of the interests of a foreign state emphasize that the unreasoned Kremlin’s Horde policy will radically turn Ukraine’s population away from any pro-Russian illusions. I also said this the other day - this will be the final point.
              2. Bogatir
                Bogatir 22 September 2011 14: 17 New
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                Here is an interesting letter from the fifth column:
                http://flot2017.com/item/opinions/41791

                "Dear Dmitry Anatolyevich!
                We are deeply concerned about the growing deterioration of Russian-Ukrainian relations due to disputes over the price of natural gas. It is quite obvious that behind this conflict other economic, political, and behind them, geopolitical differences will inevitably arise. It is easy to predict that the consequences of these differences will destabilize the domestic political situation in Ukraine and ultranationalist anti-Russian forces will again come to power in the country.
                The victory of Viktor Yanukovych in the presidential election in Ukraine in 2010 was met with enthusiasm in Russia. We were sure that the gloomy period of our relationship, associated with the name of former President Viktor Yushchenko, was over. We were sure that the period of building friendly relations and a genuine strategic partnership between the two Slavic states would begin.
                We were not mistaken. Russia and Ukraine quickly found a solution to the most acute problem around the Black Sea Fleet's naval base in Sevastopol. An integration program was developed in the nuclear, energy, aerospace and shipbuilding fields. Ukraine has announced a commitment to a neutral and non-aligned course. The times of persecution of the Russian language and Russian culture are gone.
                We sincerely hoped that Russia and Ukraine would be bound by such deep bonds that no other government would be able to break these ties of cooperation and friendship.
                Unfortunately, unexpectedly for all of us, our strategic partnership tripped on gas prices. The economic dispute between the Russian Gazprom and Neftegaz of Ukraine has become disproportionate and threatens to bring down our achievements.
                The heated media controversy, statements by politicians on the gas issue threaten to separate two fraternal peoples on opposite sides of the barricades. Serious geopolitical threats to our common economic and political security are clearly looming behind these disputes.
                We are deeply convinced that Russia's security cannot be ensured without friendly Ukraine. And vice versa.
                In the emerging conflict between Russia and Ukraine, there will be, and indeed will be, interference from outside forces seeking to clash the two fraternal peoples. Thus, the West, through its protege in Georgia, will try to re-form the Baltic-Black Sea Alliance with the goal of isolating Russia. As a result, an arc of instability Ukraine – Georgia – North Caucasus will be created on the southern borders of Russia. The USA will become the inspirers of it, more than once they have tried to provoke a military conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
                At the peak of the conflict, Ukraine will be intensely pushed to abandon non-aligned status and join NATO. The right-wing nationalist opposition will resume pro-NATO propaganda.
                The Kharkov agreements are also in jeopardy. Some people in Russia are already pushing us to denounce the agreements and leave Sevastopol, the city of Russian military glory. But we cannot leave Sevastopol, leave Russian citizens in this city, renounce the heroic page of our past!
                We should not forget that the enemies of Russia are extremely interested in the split of the Eastern Slavic Orthodox civilization. And even more so, they will welcome if the split is carried out by the hands of Moscow. The propaganda war that has begun between the two countries today will entail undermining Russia's influence among the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine.
                In such a situation, political losses for the authorities of the two countries can become catastrophic. We, the Russians, will have to bear our share of responsibility for the fact that the ideas of Slavic unity were discredited, and the high principles of strategic partnership were reduced to a banal bazaar.
                The other day, the Patriarch of Bartholomew of Constantinople has already declared Ukraine its canonical territory. And this is only the first salvo of war, which can lead to the destruction of the common cultural, historical and religious space, to the collapse of a single Orthodox Church in the post-Soviet space, to the discrediting of the idea of ​​East Slavic Orthodox civilization.
                The politicians of Russia and Ukraine should avoid any mutual accusations, urgently sit down at the negotiating table and resolve all conflicts in the spirit of the principles of strategic partnership.
                A global financial and economic crisis is coming with serious social consequences. The world is threatened by regional conflicts and wars. The struggle for the spheres of economic and geopolitical influence is escalating. If we want to survive, if we want to win, as we already won in World War II, then we must lend a helping hand to the fraternal Ukrainian people, with whom our destiny is inextricably linked.
                Ivashov L.G. - President of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences, Colonel General.
                Komoyedov V.P. - Admiral, commander of the Black Sea Fleet (1998–2002).
                Leonov N.S. - Lieutenant General of the KGB of the USSR.
                Ovchinsky BC - Major General of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Director of the Bureau of Interpol in the Russian Federation (1997–1999).
                Prokhanov A.A. - Chief Editor of the newspaper "Tomorrow".
                Rodionov I.N. - Army General, Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation (1996–1997). "
              3. Bogatir
                Bogatir 22 September 2011 14: 17 New
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                Here is an interesting letter from the fifth column:
                http://flot2017.com/item/opinions/41791

                "Dear Dmitry Anatolyevich!
                We are deeply concerned about the growing deterioration of Russian-Ukrainian relations due to disputes over the price of natural gas. It is quite obvious that behind this conflict other economic, political, and behind them, geopolitical differences will inevitably arise. It is easy to predict that the consequences of these differences will destabilize the domestic political situation in Ukraine and ultranationalist anti-Russian forces will again come to power in the country.
                The victory of Viktor Yanukovych in the presidential election in Ukraine in 2010 was met with enthusiasm in Russia. We were sure that the gloomy period of our relationship, associated with the name of former President Viktor Yushchenko, was over. We were sure that the period of building friendly relations and a genuine strategic partnership between the two Slavic states would begin.
                We were not mistaken. Russia and Ukraine quickly found a solution to the most acute problem around the Black Sea Fleet's naval base in Sevastopol. An integration program was developed in the nuclear, energy, aerospace and shipbuilding fields. Ukraine has announced a commitment to a neutral and non-aligned course. The times of persecution of the Russian language and Russian culture are gone.
                We sincerely hoped that Russia and Ukraine would be bound by such deep bonds that no other government would be able to break these ties of cooperation and friendship.
                Unfortunately, unexpectedly for all of us, our strategic partnership tripped on gas prices. The economic dispute between the Russian Gazprom and Neftegaz of Ukraine has become disproportionate and threatens to bring down our achievements.
                The heated media controversy, statements by politicians on the gas issue threaten to separate two fraternal peoples on opposite sides of the barricades. Serious geopolitical threats to our common economic and political security are clearly looming behind these disputes.
                We are deeply convinced that Russia's security cannot be ensured without friendly Ukraine. And vice versa.
                In the emerging conflict between Russia and Ukraine, there will be, and indeed will be, interference from outside forces seeking to clash the two fraternal peoples. Thus, the West, through its protege in Georgia, will try to re-form the Baltic-Black Sea Alliance with the goal of isolating Russia. As a result, an arc of instability Ukraine – Georgia – North Caucasus will be created on the southern borders of Russia. The USA will become the inspirers of it, more than once they have tried to provoke a military conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
                At the peak of the conflict, Ukraine will be intensely pushed to abandon non-aligned status and join NATO. The right-wing nationalist opposition will resume pro-NATO propaganda.
                The Kharkov agreements are also in jeopardy. Some people in Russia are already pushing us to denounce the agreements and leave Sevastopol, the city of Russian military glory. But we cannot leave Sevastopol, leave Russian citizens in this city, renounce the heroic page of our past!
                We should not forget that the enemies of Russia are extremely interested in the split of the Eastern Slavic Orthodox civilization. And even more so, they will welcome if the split is carried out by the hands of Moscow. The propaganda war that has begun between the two countries today will entail undermining Russia's influence among the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine.
                In such a situation, political losses for the authorities of the two countries can become catastrophic. We, the Russians, will have to bear our share of responsibility for the fact that the ideas of Slavic unity were discredited, and the high principles of strategic partnership were reduced to a banal bazaar.
                The other day, the Patriarch of Bartholomew of Constantinople has already declared Ukraine its canonical territory. And this is only the first salvo of war, which can lead to the destruction of the common cultural, historical and religious space, to the collapse of a single Orthodox Church in the post-Soviet space, to the discrediting of the idea of ​​East Slavic Orthodox civilization.
                The politicians of Russia and Ukraine should avoid any mutual accusations, urgently sit down at the negotiating table and resolve all conflicts in the spirit of the principles of strategic partnership.
                A global financial and economic crisis is coming with serious social consequences. The world is threatened by regional conflicts and wars. The struggle for the spheres of economic and geopolitical influence is escalating. If we want to survive, if we want to win, as we already won in World War II, then we must lend a helping hand to the fraternal Ukrainian people, with whom our destiny is inextricably linked.
                Ivashov L.G. - President of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences, Colonel General.
                Komoyedov V.P. - Admiral, commander of the Black Sea Fleet (1998–2002).
                Leonov N.S. - Lieutenant General of the KGB of the USSR.
                Ovchinsky BC - Major General of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Director of the Bureau of Interpol in the Russian Federation (1997–1999).
                Prokhanov A.A. - Chief Editor of the newspaper "Tomorrow".
                Rodionov I.N. - Army General, Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation (1996–1997). "
            2. Bogatir
              Bogatir 22 September 2011 14: 05 New
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              We need to work with Russia on the basis of national Ukrainian interests.
        3. Tyumen
          Tyumen 22 September 2011 19: 58 New
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          Ukraine is not a woman, but a prodigal daughter whom Russia sooner or later will forgive anyway.
      2. MichaelVl
        MichaelVl 22 September 2011 12: 01 New
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        Bagotyr,
        "... civilized relations based on international principles - the rule of law, law and equality." - Well said,

        But then do not fulfill the signed agreements? :)
        1. Bogatir
          Bogatir 22 September 2011 12: 31 New
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          Quote: MichaelVl
          But then do not fulfill the signed agreements? :)

          - All interstate agreements - traditionally not fulfilled by Russia. And gas agreements are agreements of business entities signed in violation of the law and to the detriment of national interests.
          Therefore, in court, for one thing and let Putin - he flies to Sweden for a meeting, as an accomplice, a witness, or maybe more.
          1. MichaelVl
            MichaelVl 22 September 2011 17: 07 New
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            "... All interstate agreements are not traditionally fulfilled by Russia. And gas agreements are agreements between economic structures, .."

            Bogatyr
            if the fault from Ukraine is transferred to you as “host structures”, then what does Russia as a state not fulfill and violate, since Ukraine is so silk and all its failures are host structures, and is it white and fluffy? Moreover, from your words, Russia sins with such defaults “traditionally”, write examples :) By the way, who was Tymoshenko when she signed the gas agreements? From your logic - the head of the "economic structure" must be assumed? :)
            1. Banshee 22 September 2011 17: 25 New
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              So then we have the same thing ... Gazprom is the most economic structure. Joint-Stock Company. If household structures are fooling around in Ukraine, then why can't ours? There are the same guardians sitting, exactly the same.
      3. dmb
        dmb 22 September 2011 12: 21 New
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        It is not entirely clear what is meant by a common cordon. If there is no border in the West and its presence in the east of Ukraine, then everything falls into place. Including the price of gas (with all my love and respect for the Ukrainian people). I absolutely agree that the citizens of Russia should be least of all interested in the moral character of Yanukovych, (theirs are even worse, and it is necessary to start with them), but then let's decide: If the Ukrainian people agree that its leaders drag him to NATO, we won’t talk about our friendship, because this organization was created and is acting against Russia. In this case, relations between our countries can be built only on a fashionable now commercial basis.
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          Bogatir 22 September 2011 12: 39 New
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          Quote: dmb
          It is not entirely clear what is meant by a common cordon.

          - Your western, our eastern.
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          moral character of Yanukovych

          - And this is not for you to judge.
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          If the Ukrainian people agree that its leaders drag him to NATO

          - The phrase "drag" is not clear. Open your eyes and do not look at this question - with your own eyes.
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          we won’t talk about our friendship

          The concept of "NATO" has nothing to do with the relations of neighboring countries.
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          for this organization was created and acts against Russia.

          “Is it not against the communist bloc, which is no longer there?” And why then the level of interaction with NATO in Russia is much higher than in Ukraine?
          - Your rational answer will not be - because you have a clear substitution of concepts.
          1. DEfindER 22 September 2011 14: 02 New
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            What you don’t understand in the phrase “drag” is that the leader of the country, against the will of his people, drags his country to NATO, which needs Ukraine only as a bridgehead for a strike against Russia, and not necessarily military, but possibly political, economic, separatist etc.
            Or have you already forgotten how against the will of the people of the USSR, Gorbachev and other crafted leaders, in close contact with the special forces of the same NATO, ruined the alliance ..
            1. Bogatir
              Bogatir 22 September 2011 14: 21 New
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              I am a people and people around me - and we have our own opinion ...
              - What do you assign to us - your incomprehensible and alien labels?
          2. dmb
            dmb 23 September 2011 14: 17 New
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            Well, why not? The first point is clear to both of us. The second one too. If you carefully read the comment, then I just urge you not to judge Yanukovych, he has his fellow citizens for this. On the third point, I can only note that with the look of those who sleep and see Ukraine in NATO, I see no reason to look. In addition to my gaze, I’m somehow closer to the gaze of my friends living in both Eastern and Western parts of Ukraine. Here with the subsequent, I agree absolutely. NATO is a military bloc, and when your neighbor enters a military bloc directed against you (well, not against North Korea), you cannot call such a good neighbor. A comment on the last quote is redundant, but I want to remind you that the Communist bloc has really been gone for 20 years, and NATO continues to expand to the East. So with the substitution of concepts you obviously got excited.
  5. jamert
    jamert 22 September 2011 12: 17 New
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    For example, in the native head of the power of the Donetsk region, today's rating of ultra-right nationalists reaches 4%, compared with 0,2% two years ago.


    Which once again confirms that the issues of language-union-Black Sea Fleet, etc. are far-fetched. But the issues of taxes, pensions, price increases are of interest to all in Lviv and Lugansk ....

    the Golden Eagle teams (OMON) were able to stop the crowd this time thanks to their superior numbers and tear gas.


    Well with gas - this is an exaggeration.
  6. jamert
    jamert 22 September 2011 16: 00 New
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    Just in the center of Kiev (near the building of the Court of Appeal of the Kiev region) cops (including thugs from Berkut) beat students who gathered for a rally against the "Minister of Education" Tabachnik. I saw it and even took it on the phone. Yanyk quickly learns from Dima and Vova.
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      Splin 22 September 2011 16: 26 New
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      And for what they beat? Maybe they provoked. You need to know the whole prehistory.
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    Let’s see what will happen next, but such development trends, although what kind of development is there ... how they paid 1000 UAH per month and so they pay (moreover, the prices rise as if by yeast), it’s possible if you live alone and then with a stretch, and if your wife and baby? I am silent in general for financing education ...