“On a country without statehood, revenge and a new national idea of Ukrainians.” - Answer to Zakhar Prilepin
For several days, I have bookmarked an article by Zakhar Prilepin "On a country without statehood, revenge and a new national idea of Ukrainians". I really do not want to object to him. I do not want, but it is necessary.
Focus on the key points.
Prilepin: It is foolish to underestimate: the Ukrainian people, or a serious part of the Ukrainian people, are experiencing what is called a “passionary explosion”. Ukraine, roughly speaking, rushing.
Rogers: There is no reason to say that. So it is possible to agree that in all countries where color revolutions are organized, passionate explosions. After all, they are also "rushing." Moreover, football fans are rushing after each match, and drug addicts after each dose. But this does not make them passionaries.
Prilepin: And the main reason is not at all the notorious desire for Europe, for civilized values, comfort and diverse freedom. They felt that they were not just passionately eager, but finally they could defeat the notorious “elder brother” and designate themselves as “elder brother”.
Rogers: Nothing new. We have this bug, characteristic of the so-called "Svidomo" PART of the population, has long been known. It is called "Menshovarty."
Prilepin: At least in the face of New Russia.
Rogers: And there is something else. Here the hatred of those who broke off with the "European choice", to those who initially understood that it was a dummy and a "crap."
Prilepin: Then the age-old dream will come true: they will look at this ugly, huge, difficult formation from top to bottom. And, perhaps, they will even contribute to the disintegration of this vile state, which has appropriated their fame, their statehood, their culture for a thousand years, and what else they thought up for themselves in boiling semi-delirium.
Rogers: There certainly are. But there have never been more 1-3% (the maximum cumulative result of all nationalist parties in any election). Propaganda may raise this percentage slightly among suggestive citizens, but reality cools.
Prilepin: For the sake of such a thing, you can donate to many, many people.
Rogers: 5 hryvnia on SMS in favor of the army. But their agenda is not enough.
Prilepin: A country that never had its own statehood, from mythologized to hilarious absurdity history- as a matter of fact, it is precisely today that it regains its coveted sovereignty, creates its newest mythology.
Rogers: She drains sovereignty. In all key posts - Georgians from among the American puppet. And no one objects. What the hell is a “passion explosion”?
Prilepin: Ukrainians feel themselves ancient Greeks, they often behave almost like Russians did in the most terrible moments of our history.
Rogers: And there are examples? I have been following the year most attentively, including from the inside - and I do not see anything at all. Every time when maydanutym gave the slightest resistance - they fled, loudly clucking "and for us scho?".
Prilepin: All these four, or six, or eight Russian-Ukrainian wars, which they zealously teach in schools and universities and about which they do not know only in Russia (and in the rest of the world too), should be crowned today with a decisive battle.
Rogers: Bebik's creativity will be discussed? Seriously?
Prilepin: Their rates are not just high - they are absolute: Ukraine either must be born or the birth will not take place.
Rogers: Everything, miscarriage. A typical “chimera” was born (strictly according to Gumilev), and the chimeras, though they can be destructive, are not viable.
Prilepin: Therefore, the feelings of the mass behavior of independent Ukrainians sometimes want to be described in terms of medical.
Rogers: Mass hysteria was characteristic of the Third Reich, nothing new.
Prilepin: Sometimes it happens: a man is covered with unprecedented rage, when he stops feeling fear, pain, fatigue - and becomes unstoppable for a while.
Rogers: Not once with dill. Usually it is enough one flew upside down to the "nadlyudyna" turned into a howling and groaning creature. "I hear you through cotton" (c)
Prilepin: The blissful dullness of sensuality is so great there that, you see, they will even perceive the loss of the Crimea and in one form or another the alienation of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions as a victory: so what, they say, is only six, or eight, or how many percent of our territory is there, and you wanted to capture Kiev, and not capture, la la la.
Rogers: Extreme inadequacy is not a sign of drive.
Prilepin: As a result, they will declare with a clear eye that they, too, almost won the ninth Russian-Ukrainian war. They defended their independence in the fight against a terrible enemy.
Rogers: I advise you to watch the comedy "Crusaders of the cosmos." There are also a couple of such instances.
Prilepin: There is no and no rational way out of this situation and is not expected.
Rogers: "Cold, Hunger, Hyperococcus" (s)
Prilepin: It’s only our progressive leaders who quiver about the fact that in Russia there is a terrible “patriotic frenzy” and tomorrow fascism will come here, pogroms and funnels will go to Jean-Jacques to catch the clientele at the exit.
Rogers: Yes, Russian liberals and Ukrainian Nazis are like identical twins. And their roots also grow from one place - from Langley.
Prilepin: Patriotic rise in Ukraine in relation to ours (and even to Novorossky) by ten points, per thousand decibels and two thousand watts more powerful.
Rogers: What does patriotism mean? This phenomenon is called "snapping." A patriot is ready to sacrifice himself for the sake of the Motherland, and here he is ready to kill others for the image of patriots. The difference is fundamental.
Prilepin: They make ten times more for each of our humanitarian supplies, piggy banks for fees on the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in each store, at each post office and are filled every hour.
Rogers: They stand, but the boxes are empty. Plus, most of the "volunteers" stupidly profit on this topic.
Prilepin: For each volunteer, there are ten good fellows of Mr. Yarosh, who, as we see, is not going to stop the war at all.
Rogers: Where did this statistics come from? Mobilization failed, even 20% of the plan can not recruit, what the hell are volunteers? Most of the bad ones are already boiled in boilers.
Prilepin: For each Ostap, Andriy has his own, and dad Taras is not visible at all.
Rogers: Each of Andriy will have his own "kulyavlob".
Prilepin: For each Motorola there are their own “field commanders”, even if they are not so lucky, but they can always tell themselves that when taking the airport there were losses: 1 cyborg to 10 quilted jackets, and calm down on this uncomplicated lie, cyborgs still invincible, in vain, that no one in Ukraine knows how many cyborgs they’ve already buried, and most importantly, they don’t want to know.
Rogers: Is that what happens? If I write now that yesterday I took New York and stormed London, then I am not a delirium psycho, but a passionary actor? Reality rules!
Prilepin: And the Ukrainian women? During this year, in the open spaces of the Network, I met hundreds and hundreds of belligerent Kievans and Odessa women with a higher education, thirsting for someone else's death, deeply adults, more than decent-looking - well-known journalists, singers and TV presenters say out loud there that in Russia they dare not say anything one their local colleague. Against this background, all the feminist tales that if there were women at the head of states, there would have been no wars, it would seem like a monstrous nonsense, monstrous.
Rogers: Women in general are more cruel by nature. This is what any normal psychologist will tell you.
Prilepin: And, most importantly, there is not just courage, but a certain frenzy of the Ukrainian authorities.
Rogers: What is courage? To send thousands of cannon fodder for slaughter, blindly following the instructions of the American curators - courage is not necessary. Courage would be if someone sent these curators or interrupted them altogether. And so it is just cowardice and lack of will.
Prilepin: To put it bluntly, the leaders of Ukraine were not the February Interim Government of 17, but the true Bolsheviks, even though they were felting Lenin all over the country: their Leninist grip for power was exactly that.
Rogers: Nothing to do. The Bolsheviks won, the Bolsheviks had plans for the development of the country, the Bolsheviks tore the country from outside influence, and did not fall under any foreigners.
Prilepin: Remove at least a hundred reports that men and women from villages and villages of Ukraine are fleeing to Europe and Russia away from military commissars en masse - they will still collect their 50 thousands of new troops.
Rogers: And half of them will run away at the first opportunity — either home, or “just one moment”.
Prilepin: And it will be, yes, undefiled youths - but this, we recognize, of the same breed of youths as the Russian conscripts in any of our war.
Rogers: No, we do not recognize.
Prilepin: Actually, they are Russians. Were
Rogers: Yes, they were. Now this mankurt, kinship not knowing. Janissaries. Or do you also call the Janissaries Russians?
Prilepin: Therefore, a Ukrainian soldier, as we saw at the airport and see under Debaltseve, fights even when a quarter of his unit is slaughtered, and then half, and then two thirds. He fights when he has no food, no connection, and when all the officers turned out to be fools, while others also fled.
Rogers: We are in some different realities. Watch Ukrainian media is bad, you fall under the suggestion.
Prilepin: These are the children and grandchildren of the same heroes and fearless soldiers - their direct descendants.
Rogers: Children by blood, but not by spirit. Those who refused to celebrate the Victory Day, the writers “detonated” as something mocking, screaming “Heroic Glory” - what do they have in common with Soviet soldiers? Nothing!
Prilepin: Not only that, there were no less heroes among Bandera, otherwise you would explain that the strongest army in the world — the Soviet, post-war, Japanese army simply swept away, and for two years at least Bandera caught at least in the forests of Zapadena to end.
Rogers: That's exactly what I caught. The Japanese fought openly, and these were hiding in caches like rats. The Elusive Joe. By the way, the army did not fight with them, they were caught by the MGB as ordinary criminals.
Prilepin: And there is much more motivation for this mirror image - the militiamen need only freedom, and their opponent needs revenge in the entire history of Ukraine right away, for the whole!
Rogers: On the contrary, these are ukrovoyaki fighting over abstractions such as “single Ukraine” or “European values”, while among the militia there is a motivation in the form of the need for retaliation for the murdered women and children.
Prilepin: And it doesn’t matter what they did in this story there and how many extra centuries they attributed.
Rogers: It is important.
Total: Writers tend to embellish and exaggerate, analysts tend to operate with cold facts. There is no “passion explosion” in Ukraine. Can you imagine that during the Great Patriotic War one of the generals wrote in the newspapers or spoke on the radio “The Command Threw Us”? Or refused to execute the order? Or declared that he would create an alternative general staff, like Yarosh? Or rallied on Red Square due to the fact that they lack body armor and toilet paper?
During the Great Patriotic War there were long lines at the military registration and enlistment offices, and here mobilization was broken, and hundreds of thousands of “invaders” flee into the country to escape from the summons. In the Soviet Union it was “Raykom closed. All went to the front. And then the deputies adopt a law prohibiting the issuance of their agenda.
During the Great Patriotic War for the "samostrel" was given to the penal battalion or shot. And Yarosh and Semenchenko do not climb out of the hospital with their "injuries of soft tissues".
Or you can imagine Levitan to declare “From the Soviet Information Bureau. There is no loss? If "during the heavy and long battles we left the city N-ck", then they said so. The harsh and often unpleasant truth.
Or can you imagine that any analogue of Kolomoisky in 1942, with impunity, seized a refinery in Baku and drained all the process oil, selling recycled gasoline to the left? Or created a private army, which, instead of being sent to the front, would be engaged in robbery of food warehouses? Hardly.
Yes, these morons constantly shouting that they will take Moscow, Kuban and Vladivostok. Baboons, sitting on a tree, also yell at a passing lion, and even throw branches at it. But the direction to Moscow is free, there is no front! And none of them with their battalions of looters and raiders did not go, like Sirko, to Moscow. Because they are swindlers and posers who are interested in the looting of defenseless and comfortable chair in the Rada, and not real fighting. This is NOT the behavior of passionaries, this is the behavior of small jackals who, at the sight of a bear, will scatter with a scream and howling.
Therefore, as Stanislavsky said, "I do not believe."
Focus on the key points.
Prilepin: It is foolish to underestimate: the Ukrainian people, or a serious part of the Ukrainian people, are experiencing what is called a “passionary explosion”. Ukraine, roughly speaking, rushing.
Rogers: There is no reason to say that. So it is possible to agree that in all countries where color revolutions are organized, passionate explosions. After all, they are also "rushing." Moreover, football fans are rushing after each match, and drug addicts after each dose. But this does not make them passionaries.
Prilepin: And the main reason is not at all the notorious desire for Europe, for civilized values, comfort and diverse freedom. They felt that they were not just passionately eager, but finally they could defeat the notorious “elder brother” and designate themselves as “elder brother”.
Rogers: Nothing new. We have this bug, characteristic of the so-called "Svidomo" PART of the population, has long been known. It is called "Menshovarty."
Prilepin: At least in the face of New Russia.
Rogers: And there is something else. Here the hatred of those who broke off with the "European choice", to those who initially understood that it was a dummy and a "crap."
Prilepin: Then the age-old dream will come true: they will look at this ugly, huge, difficult formation from top to bottom. And, perhaps, they will even contribute to the disintegration of this vile state, which has appropriated their fame, their statehood, their culture for a thousand years, and what else they thought up for themselves in boiling semi-delirium.
Rogers: There certainly are. But there have never been more 1-3% (the maximum cumulative result of all nationalist parties in any election). Propaganda may raise this percentage slightly among suggestive citizens, but reality cools.
Prilepin: For the sake of such a thing, you can donate to many, many people.
Rogers: 5 hryvnia on SMS in favor of the army. But their agenda is not enough.
Prilepin: A country that never had its own statehood, from mythologized to hilarious absurdity history- as a matter of fact, it is precisely today that it regains its coveted sovereignty, creates its newest mythology.
Rogers: She drains sovereignty. In all key posts - Georgians from among the American puppet. And no one objects. What the hell is a “passion explosion”?
Prilepin: Ukrainians feel themselves ancient Greeks, they often behave almost like Russians did in the most terrible moments of our history.
Rogers: And there are examples? I have been following the year most attentively, including from the inside - and I do not see anything at all. Every time when maydanutym gave the slightest resistance - they fled, loudly clucking "and for us scho?".
Prilepin: All these four, or six, or eight Russian-Ukrainian wars, which they zealously teach in schools and universities and about which they do not know only in Russia (and in the rest of the world too), should be crowned today with a decisive battle.
Rogers: Bebik's creativity will be discussed? Seriously?
Prilepin: Their rates are not just high - they are absolute: Ukraine either must be born or the birth will not take place.
Rogers: Everything, miscarriage. A typical “chimera” was born (strictly according to Gumilev), and the chimeras, though they can be destructive, are not viable.
Prilepin: Therefore, the feelings of the mass behavior of independent Ukrainians sometimes want to be described in terms of medical.
Rogers: Mass hysteria was characteristic of the Third Reich, nothing new.
Prilepin: Sometimes it happens: a man is covered with unprecedented rage, when he stops feeling fear, pain, fatigue - and becomes unstoppable for a while.
Rogers: Not once with dill. Usually it is enough one flew upside down to the "nadlyudyna" turned into a howling and groaning creature. "I hear you through cotton" (c)
Prilepin: The blissful dullness of sensuality is so great there that, you see, they will even perceive the loss of the Crimea and in one form or another the alienation of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions as a victory: so what, they say, is only six, or eight, or how many percent of our territory is there, and you wanted to capture Kiev, and not capture, la la la.
Rogers: Extreme inadequacy is not a sign of drive.
Prilepin: As a result, they will declare with a clear eye that they, too, almost won the ninth Russian-Ukrainian war. They defended their independence in the fight against a terrible enemy.
Rogers: I advise you to watch the comedy "Crusaders of the cosmos." There are also a couple of such instances.
Prilepin: There is no and no rational way out of this situation and is not expected.
Rogers: "Cold, Hunger, Hyperococcus" (s)
Prilepin: It’s only our progressive leaders who quiver about the fact that in Russia there is a terrible “patriotic frenzy” and tomorrow fascism will come here, pogroms and funnels will go to Jean-Jacques to catch the clientele at the exit.
Rogers: Yes, Russian liberals and Ukrainian Nazis are like identical twins. And their roots also grow from one place - from Langley.
Prilepin: Patriotic rise in Ukraine in relation to ours (and even to Novorossky) by ten points, per thousand decibels and two thousand watts more powerful.
Rogers: What does patriotism mean? This phenomenon is called "snapping." A patriot is ready to sacrifice himself for the sake of the Motherland, and here he is ready to kill others for the image of patriots. The difference is fundamental.
Prilepin: They make ten times more for each of our humanitarian supplies, piggy banks for fees on the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in each store, at each post office and are filled every hour.
Rogers: They stand, but the boxes are empty. Plus, most of the "volunteers" stupidly profit on this topic.
Prilepin: For each volunteer, there are ten good fellows of Mr. Yarosh, who, as we see, is not going to stop the war at all.
Rogers: Where did this statistics come from? Mobilization failed, even 20% of the plan can not recruit, what the hell are volunteers? Most of the bad ones are already boiled in boilers.
Prilepin: For each Ostap, Andriy has his own, and dad Taras is not visible at all.
Rogers: Each of Andriy will have his own "kulyavlob".
Prilepin: For each Motorola there are their own “field commanders”, even if they are not so lucky, but they can always tell themselves that when taking the airport there were losses: 1 cyborg to 10 quilted jackets, and calm down on this uncomplicated lie, cyborgs still invincible, in vain, that no one in Ukraine knows how many cyborgs they’ve already buried, and most importantly, they don’t want to know.
Rogers: Is that what happens? If I write now that yesterday I took New York and stormed London, then I am not a delirium psycho, but a passionary actor? Reality rules!
Prilepin: And the Ukrainian women? During this year, in the open spaces of the Network, I met hundreds and hundreds of belligerent Kievans and Odessa women with a higher education, thirsting for someone else's death, deeply adults, more than decent-looking - well-known journalists, singers and TV presenters say out loud there that in Russia they dare not say anything one their local colleague. Against this background, all the feminist tales that if there were women at the head of states, there would have been no wars, it would seem like a monstrous nonsense, monstrous.
Rogers: Women in general are more cruel by nature. This is what any normal psychologist will tell you.
Prilepin: And, most importantly, there is not just courage, but a certain frenzy of the Ukrainian authorities.
Rogers: What is courage? To send thousands of cannon fodder for slaughter, blindly following the instructions of the American curators - courage is not necessary. Courage would be if someone sent these curators or interrupted them altogether. And so it is just cowardice and lack of will.
Prilepin: To put it bluntly, the leaders of Ukraine were not the February Interim Government of 17, but the true Bolsheviks, even though they were felting Lenin all over the country: their Leninist grip for power was exactly that.
Rogers: Nothing to do. The Bolsheviks won, the Bolsheviks had plans for the development of the country, the Bolsheviks tore the country from outside influence, and did not fall under any foreigners.
Prilepin: Remove at least a hundred reports that men and women from villages and villages of Ukraine are fleeing to Europe and Russia away from military commissars en masse - they will still collect their 50 thousands of new troops.
Rogers: And half of them will run away at the first opportunity — either home, or “just one moment”.
Prilepin: And it will be, yes, undefiled youths - but this, we recognize, of the same breed of youths as the Russian conscripts in any of our war.
Rogers: No, we do not recognize.
Prilepin: Actually, they are Russians. Were
Rogers: Yes, they were. Now this mankurt, kinship not knowing. Janissaries. Or do you also call the Janissaries Russians?
Prilepin: Therefore, a Ukrainian soldier, as we saw at the airport and see under Debaltseve, fights even when a quarter of his unit is slaughtered, and then half, and then two thirds. He fights when he has no food, no connection, and when all the officers turned out to be fools, while others also fled.
Rogers: We are in some different realities. Watch Ukrainian media is bad, you fall under the suggestion.
Prilepin: These are the children and grandchildren of the same heroes and fearless soldiers - their direct descendants.
Rogers: Children by blood, but not by spirit. Those who refused to celebrate the Victory Day, the writers “detonated” as something mocking, screaming “Heroic Glory” - what do they have in common with Soviet soldiers? Nothing!
Prilepin: Not only that, there were no less heroes among Bandera, otherwise you would explain that the strongest army in the world — the Soviet, post-war, Japanese army simply swept away, and for two years at least Bandera caught at least in the forests of Zapadena to end.
Rogers: That's exactly what I caught. The Japanese fought openly, and these were hiding in caches like rats. The Elusive Joe. By the way, the army did not fight with them, they were caught by the MGB as ordinary criminals.
Prilepin: And there is much more motivation for this mirror image - the militiamen need only freedom, and their opponent needs revenge in the entire history of Ukraine right away, for the whole!
Rogers: On the contrary, these are ukrovoyaki fighting over abstractions such as “single Ukraine” or “European values”, while among the militia there is a motivation in the form of the need for retaliation for the murdered women and children.
Prilepin: And it doesn’t matter what they did in this story there and how many extra centuries they attributed.
Rogers: It is important.
Total: Writers tend to embellish and exaggerate, analysts tend to operate with cold facts. There is no “passion explosion” in Ukraine. Can you imagine that during the Great Patriotic War one of the generals wrote in the newspapers or spoke on the radio “The Command Threw Us”? Or refused to execute the order? Or declared that he would create an alternative general staff, like Yarosh? Or rallied on Red Square due to the fact that they lack body armor and toilet paper?
During the Great Patriotic War there were long lines at the military registration and enlistment offices, and here mobilization was broken, and hundreds of thousands of “invaders” flee into the country to escape from the summons. In the Soviet Union it was “Raykom closed. All went to the front. And then the deputies adopt a law prohibiting the issuance of their agenda.
During the Great Patriotic War for the "samostrel" was given to the penal battalion or shot. And Yarosh and Semenchenko do not climb out of the hospital with their "injuries of soft tissues".
Or you can imagine Levitan to declare “From the Soviet Information Bureau. There is no loss? If "during the heavy and long battles we left the city N-ck", then they said so. The harsh and often unpleasant truth.
Or can you imagine that any analogue of Kolomoisky in 1942, with impunity, seized a refinery in Baku and drained all the process oil, selling recycled gasoline to the left? Or created a private army, which, instead of being sent to the front, would be engaged in robbery of food warehouses? Hardly.
Yes, these morons constantly shouting that they will take Moscow, Kuban and Vladivostok. Baboons, sitting on a tree, also yell at a passing lion, and even throw branches at it. But the direction to Moscow is free, there is no front! And none of them with their battalions of looters and raiders did not go, like Sirko, to Moscow. Because they are swindlers and posers who are interested in the looting of defenseless and comfortable chair in the Rada, and not real fighting. This is NOT the behavior of passionaries, this is the behavior of small jackals who, at the sight of a bear, will scatter with a scream and howling.
Therefore, as Stanislavsky said, "I do not believe."
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