On the "new Ukrainian" weapons received by equipping the Armed Forces of Ukraine

On the Ukrainian site NV.ua recently appeared an article with a loud title "New Ukrainian weapon". Let's take a look at and evaluate these" Ukrainian innovations "together with you. (As a small explanation. Dialed italic type text belongs to the Ukrainian sites, the usual - the author and expresses his personal opinion. Above each picture with the image of the technology indicated its purchased quantity and date.)

An-70

Military transport aircraft of short take-off and landing, including from unequipped landing strips, for landing troops, transportation of soldiers to 300 and to 47 tons of cargo.

The plane is really a purely Ukrainian development, but it was created not without the help of Russia and with the expectation of its further production in Russia and operation in the Russian Air Force.
And looking at this, the only AN70 that arrived in the Ukrainian Air Force, I have a question for our Defense Ministry, but not the plane built on OUR money, under an agreement with Antonov? And if so, what actions have been taken in terms of recovering financial losses? Interestingly, someone can now answer these and other questions on the program An-70?

BTR-3EX1

Combat wheeled amphibious vehicle with armored protection. Designed to identify, recognize and destroy ground and low-flying targets. Equipped with an 30-mm automatic cannon on 350 shells, 7,62-mm machine gun on 2.000 cartridges, anti-tank missile complex "Barrier" with 4 missiles and 30-mm grenade launcher.

This vehicle is a deep modernization of the Soviet BTR-80 and, as recognized by both warring parties, today it is the most effective and best BTR in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But why only is it classified as “new”? If it is made with 2001 year?

And yet, regarding the quantity - 22 ... 22 May 2014, the 32 BTR-3Е, intended for Thailand, was transferred to the National Guard of Ukraine. 6 September 2014 of the year during the armed conflict in the east of Ukraine 1 BTR-3K was destroyed near the village of Telmanovo. The first BTR-3 transferred 6 December 2014. So there are already more, much more.

BTR-4E

Modification of an armored personnel carrier BTR-4 Bucephalus with a combat module BM-7 Sail, consisting of an 30-mm automatic cannon (400 shells), 30-mm automatic grenade launcher (145 grenades), 7,62-mm machine gun (2.000 shells, PT lines, and hints for the day to start, using PTTs and other exercises for the day to start using the X-gun

The most controversial of the Ukrainian army armored personnel carriers. Having a decent body armor, higher than that of the BTR80 and BTR3, which has a more progressive design and powerful armament, it is not without a big disadvantage - increased noise, due to the installation of a two-stroke diesel engine created on the basis of the tank 5TDF, and the impossibility of installing a silencer on it as it drastically reduces engine power. By the way, this modification was designed for the Iraqi Armed Forces and was partially delivered there. And the question is why the more protected and technological BTR-4МВ did not receive recognition from the Ukrainian military ...

Kraz cougar

The Ukrainian-made armored car is licensed by the Canadian company Streit Group based on the Toyota Land Cruiser chassis with all-round protection against 7,62 × 51 mm caliber bullets and artillery shell fragments with the ability to install various combat modules.

The machine, produced under license, and, by and large, from imported components and assemblies, with great fanfare was shown at a parade in Kiev in honor of Independence Day. But small localization and a significant price (up to 215 000 $) are unlikely to equip units in large quantities.

Kraz spartan

Ukrainian armored car manufactured under the license of the Canadian company Streit Group based on Ford chassis with all-round protection against 7,62 × 51mm caliber bullets with the ability to install various combat modules.

This machine is also assembled from overseas vehicle sets. Here I will simply cite data from other Ukrainian sites, since there is nothing to add or subtract.

In 2014, the production of armored vehicles was launched in Ukraine, as of the beginning of August, 2014 cost of one armored vehicle was 5,35 million hryvnia.
In January, the 2015 of the first armored Spartan armored vehicles in the Ukrainian army revealed 15 design flaws.
One of the most serious shortcomings was the insufficient strength of the Ford F550 undercarriage, which could not withstand the stresses that increased after the installation of a heavy armor case - the first Spartan, which entered the units of the Ukrainian army at the end of December 2014, failed a month after the start of operation [9] , and by 30 in January, 2015 had failed 12 from 14 armored vehicles of the 95-th separate airmobile brigade.
28 January 2015 of the year AvtoKrAZ OJSC announced that the company has received three notifications concerning shock absorbers and failure of the gearbox in Spartan armored vehicles, and improvements are already being made to the design of the armored car.
The degree of localization of production remains low:
15 December 2014 CEO AvtoKrAZ Roman Chernyak said that in the KrAZ Spartan armored car the share of the Ukrainian component does not exceed 10-15%.
9 February 2015 general director of AvtoKrAZ Roman Chernyak reported that in the KrAZ Spartan armored car the share of the Ukrainian component reaches 20%.

Kraz raptor

Armored truck based on the KRAZ chassis with the wheel formula 6х6 with a removable armored compartment for the assault on the 24 fighter, with protection against small arms and min.

KrAZ 6322 RAPTOR is an independent development of Ukrainian automakers and is manufactured using the KrAZ truck chassis. Although it was created in 2007 year, he entered the army recently, and the experience of its combat use is not generalized.

As a positive quality, of course, it is worth noting the front location of the motor, which increases the protection of people in the cabin, but the transportation only 20 people inside for such a large car and a large mass can not be attributed to its particularly positive properties. Well, as they say, time will tell ...

Battle module "Sarmat"

The complex of two guided missiles RK-2С or four RK-3 and a tank machine gun of caliber 12,7 mm, with a range of damage 2-5 km. Designed to equip various combat vehicles, small ships and coast guard boats

Quite a modern development of Ukrainian gunsmiths, which allows to significantly increase the firing capabilities of light equipment. The range of the combat module when firing the PK-2C missile is 5 kilometers, the PK-3 is kilometer 2,5, a machine gun, the analogue of NSVT, kilometer 1,8. Thanks to the pointing device, which was produced at the Izyum Instrument-Making Plant, accurate target guidance and missile flight control are provided up to a kilometer away from 5,5. The process of targeting and tracking the target is implemented through a gear turning mechanism.

Assault rifles "Fort-221" and "Fort-224"

Licensed copies of the Israeli Tavor rifle (TAR-21) caliber 5,56х45mm, arranged according to the bullpup (trigger in front of the store) - more compact and with an elongated barrel to improve shooting accuracy. The shortened modification "Fort-224" is intended for special forces soldiers.

Israeli gunsmiths, of course, managed to create good weapons, there are no complaints about them, but why did the Ukrainian gunsmiths fail to set up a full production cycle for their counterparts and still use many Israeli components? Apparently, this explains their small number, which came mainly to equip the Nat. Guard of Ukraine and units of special operations.

Manual machine gun "Fort-401"

Licensed copy of the Israeli Negev machine gun caliber 5,56 × 45 and 7,62 × 51 mm, with interchangeable barrels, with the ability to regulate the rate of fire in various combat conditions.

Everything that was previously said about Fort assault rifles fully corresponds to this machine gun.

Pistol "Fort-14TP"

Tactical pistol caliber 9 mm with the barrel extended to 123 mm and four magazines of increased capacity, with the possibility of installing a silencer, flashlight and laser pointer.

"Fort-14TP" is an enlarged version of the gun "Fort-12" (which was developed at the beginning of 1990-s of NPO "Fort" by order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine due to the moral and physical obsolescence of Soviet Makarov pistols in service. experience of the Czech arms firm Ceská Zbrojovka. The first experimental batch of pistols "Fort-12" was made in May 1995 of the year). "Fort-14" was created under the cartridge 9 mm Parabellum with automatic, working on the use of recoil in the short course of the trunk. But later the gun was redesigned under the chuck 9 × 18 PM. Automation is now working on the use of recoil when the free shutter. Similarly, the mount in the frame, which is carried out by the axis of the slide delay.

The main design changes are: an increase in magazine capacity and barrel length, which increases respectively the firepower and firing accuracy; front notch on the bolt-casing for a more comfortable and tight grip when loading weapons; the possibility of mounting, with the help of guides in the front of the frame, various additional devices, such as a tactical flashlight or laser designator. "Fort-14TP", equipped with a longer barrel than the standard one, and having a thread on the muzzle part protruding from the casing-casing, can be used together with a device for silent flameless firing. Unlike the 12 and 17 models, the 14TP pistol is equipped with an automatic firing pin of the firing pin, which is a very significant advantage from the point of view of safety in handling weapons. In 2003, this gun began to enter various departments of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. According to user feedback, it is very easy to maintain, reliable in operation when firing factory ammunition in various weather conditions and fairly accurate. Of the minuses should be noted insignificant, by modern standards, resource nastrela, so even with a large variation from batch to batch, ranging from 5000 to 8000 shots. This gun is not intended for permanent firing. "Fort-14TP" is primarily a service weapon with a rather narrow specialization.

Well, now that for some reason it was not included in the Ukrainian weapon "Top 10" ...

T-64B1M

Simplified upgrade option tanks T-64B1, created at the Kharkov Armored Plant. The tank has a built-in dynamic protection that enhances the protection of the tower, the front of the hull and side. At the rear of the tower there is a niche for ammunition and equipment.

Tanks, though they arrived at the equipment, but have not yet been noted in the fighting.

MLRS "Bastion-01, 02 and 03 ..." BM-21K "

All these MLRS are created as modifications of the Soviet MLRS.

"Bastion-01" and "Bastion-02"

It is a modernization of the Soviet Grad MLRS (by installing an artillery unit (guides) mounted on a new KrAZ chassis, removed from the BM-21, which were stored or removed from the Ukrainian Armed Forces).

The overhaul of the BM-21 artillery unit is made by the Shepetovo Repair Plant GP. In the modernized version of the BM-21 Bastion -1 (2), the combat characteristics of the complex are improved by using new ammunition that allows firing to 40 km. Bastion -02 is different more elongated base wheeled chassis, allowing to accommodate an additional supply of missiles.

"Bastion-03"

Variant "Bastion-3" is the installation of the artillery part of the MLRS "Uragan", mounted on the KrAZ chassis. The replacement of the chassis was caused by the presence in Ukraine of its own chassis for this vehicle - KrAZ, the MAZ chassis (on which the Uragan complex was mounted) is not produced in Ukraine, but is only being repaired.

"BM-21K"

BM-21K is an improved version of the previously developed options for the modernization of the MLRS. The machine was developed by the state enterprise "Kharkiv Special Machines Plant" (formerly 101-y auto repair plant). In the creation of the artillery unit, the state enterprise KKBM and the new munitions of the state enterprise NPO Petrovsky took part.

And the question arises in me why Russian MRLS Tornado and various modifications are simply prescribed with maniacal persistence in every “Minsk agreements”, but for some reason forget to mention these Ukrainian MRLs?

KrAZ Cobra

Ukrainian armored car with a wheel formula 4х4 is built on the basis of the Toyota Land Cruiser 200 and is built at the Kremenchug Automobile Plant under license from the Canadian Emirates company Streit Group

Often confused with the "Cougar", although it is a completely different machine, she managed to check in during police operations in Kharkov, as well as in the Azov battalion.

From all of the above, it is clear that the military-industrial complex of Ukraine massively uses former Soviet and foreign developments to quickly equip its armed forces.

Material used:
1. Ukraine at Eurosatory-2014 // http://topwar.ru/52553-ukraina-na-eurosatory-2014.html.
2. Assault rifle "Fort-221" and "Fort-224" (Ukraine) // http://www.armoury-online.ru/articles/ar/ua/fort221/.
3. Fort-14TP gun (Ukraine) // http://www.armoury-online.ru/articles/pistols/ukraine/Fort-14TP/.
3. Pistol "Fort-12" (Ukraine) // https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D4%EE%F0%F2-12.
4. KRAZ Cougar // http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRAZ_Cougar.
5. БТР-3Е1 // https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C1%D2%D0-3.
6. BTR-4 "Bucephalus" // https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C1%D2%D0-4.
7. Streit Group Spartan // https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streit_Group_Spartan.
8. The National Guard of Ukraine received T-64B1м tanks, intended for shipment to Africa.
9. KrAZ Cobra // http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRAZ_Cobra.
10. New Ukrainian weapons // http://nv.ua/project/new-ukrainian-weapons.html.
11. Ukrainian modernization of the MLRS // http://bm-oplot.livejournal.com/17432.html.

Comments

[Internal combustion engine]

What prevented Putin from sending troops to Ukraine last March! There would be no serious resistance. As there would be no this crazy war in the Donbass. One thing prevented was the dependence of the Russian oligarchs on the West.

[crocodile25]

More like a police weapon ...

[78bor1973]

And is that all that ukrovoenprom produces? To be honest, not a lot. We have three plants producing such a nomenclature, and here half the screwdriver assembly, about the An-70, could not be mentioned at all, as there is no money in one copy!

[31rus]

Dear, you are wrong RSZO, tanks, combat modules are far from police weapons, a lot of things are not indicated here, for example, MT-LB and their modifications, AGS, sniper rifle

[Lukich]

Quote: krokodil25

More like a police weapon ...

prepare for uprisings in other cities of Little Russia

[SHILO]

Quote: ICE

What prevented Putin from sending troops to Ukraine last March!

Dim! Give up! It's too late...
And on the topic I’ll say that the 12 Fort is bullshit (I hope 17 hasn’t gone too far). Such a number of misfires in, say, 100 shots at the PM could not be obtained from 1000. The design there or the cartridges suffered do not know, but a fact.

[tronin.maxim]

Quote: ICE

What prevented Putin from sending troops to Ukraine last March!

Common sense! Joining the war, the American dream. Although it is quite possible that our military (advisers) are in New Russia. The Maidan in Russia could not be done, to draw the failure into the war in Ukraine, even the sanctions do it all the other way around. Wait ISIS militants are sent. Thank God with the GDP we were lucky, but at the beginning it’s really a disaster.

[vlad-58]

... yes, it was not introduced ...
But: to do everything quickly - suppress the "Right Sector", "gently and politely" disperse the Rada, support pro-Russian politicians, quietly physically destroy American "advisers" and advisers and obvious spies like Nachivaychenko and others like him (all this dill whisper not so much in fact, on the strength of 2-5 thousand ...). And everything would have cost much less blood if the "world public opinion" (which does not exist!) Had the right motivation! And it ("world" ...) would support Russia as earnestly as it does Ukraine now ...
Conclusion: the Foreign Ministry, the FSB, and the GRU work badly ... and the "guarantor" too ...

[Petrik66]

one you are fine.

[97110]

Quote: vlad-58

Conclusion: the Foreign Ministry, the FSB, and the GRU work badly ... and the "guarantor" too ...

and well - the State Department staff. How forty frozen poop hollow, why, why Putin did not get into the war. After all, it would be good if I climbed. Well, they wouldn’t have let him out alive. Together with us, of course. Somehow, no one needs living Russians on Russian territory.

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: vlad-58

And everything would have cost much less blood if the "world public opinion" (which does not exist!) Had the right motivation! And it ("world" ...) would support Russia as earnestly as it does Ukraine now ...

From this passage alone, it is already clear that you do not understand anything.
Either the world community does not exist, then it needs "the right motivation" ...
And, in fact, it was this world community that created and continues to create and maintain this one of the ugliest creatures of mankind FOR ITS GOALS! And these goals have not changed.
So why would they start supporting Russia in the confrontation with Ukraine, which they created to confront Russia?
Well? So understandable ???

[Victor Demchenko]

again on the same rake?
(this is about Russian politicians) maybe one Yanyka is enough? got these advisers, well, right to the inside !!! stop feeding Ukrainians! let them earn money, and live as they want !!! want to geyropu? for God's sake!!! but! money in the evening, and chairs in the morning, and money forward! and these mantras are about brothers ... and enemies are not necessary with such a relative ...

[cyberhanter]

he meant an operation, similar to the Czech one, when the war does not start, and the leadership is arrested

[rzstas]

Maxim, I'm sure this is a terrible miscalculation.
In the end, we are embroiled in a war, and most likely on two fronts.
And all this is because the Russian president was mistaken.
Thank God, we are lucky so far, but this does not apply to the president at all ..
His delay and unwillingness to "get involved" turned into terrible sacrifices for our people, the restoration of Novorossiya, at our expense, and the troubles and grief of thousands of people.

[Camel]

Put yourself in the shoes of the President of Russia - these thousands of victims are not Russian citizens. Our President, that he was hired to help them out? Their own president ran away to us. VVP did everything correctly, but they help relatives, but not when she spits in the face. After all, this is not about a complete refusal of aid, how many humanitarian aid was brought there, and "Voentorg" is the same ... The point is that if Ukrainians want help with the hands of Russian soldiers, then no. We also need to correct demography!
Pragmatism is what distinguishes our President from "colleagues and partners".

[nhjo]

it was not even necessary to send troops, but just a landing on Kiev, at the request of the legitimate president, the arrest of the junta and the most odious maydauns and thousands of lives would be saved. But the wallet presses on the heart and brain. And sanctions would be for anyone.

[kunstkammer]

at the request of the legal president

when he was in the Crimea it was necessary to "ask" him to sign an appeal to Russia with a request for assistance ... for a start in the Crimea.
Then there would be no groans of the world "progression" public now.

[siege]

It still affects, unfortunately.

[Muxomor]

In theory, nothing hindered, but they give the Ukrainians a sip on the full of what they so wanted on the Maidan, otherwise only hunger, poverty and blood can make people think about what they have done

[McLuha-MacLeod]

You still don’t understand. If the troops had been brought in, we would be considered the country as the aggressor. Such a howl would rise and the whole world would take up arms against us. And so we are not a party to the conflict. Diplomacy.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: McLooka-MacLeod

And so we are not a party to the conflict. Diplomacy.

yah? tell the State Department ...

[Victor Demchenko]

deaf and tell? Well, you my friend and made fun! native to April 1 on the calendar ...

[cyberhanter]

the thing is that we are in any case drawn as a strange aggressor. regardless of the degree of our aggressiveness. see 2008 year

[Alekseev]

Quote: ICE

send troops to Ukraine! There would be no serious resistance. As there would be no this crazy war

What is the whole of Ukraine? Where are the troops? Have you forgotten that our abbreviations were Perdyuk's, and not good? Or an adherent of the true faith of TV?
But about the war with such a troop deployment - this is the grandmother said in two.
Svidomo Banderlog there "more than to hell" and the loss of those killed from around the corner would flow into our cities and towns.

[svp67]

Quote: Alekseev

But about the war with such a troop deployment - this is the grandmother said in two.

It is a sin to say, but then I was against input, because I was afraid of just this

Quote: Alekseev

casualties from around the corner

and now, "FOR", at least to the territory of the DPR and LPR, since this factor has already significantly decreased there.
Now the bill goes for weeks. Which side, NATO or Russia, will be more ready for a new round in the development of armed confrontation, namely for the "EU police operation"

[Alekseev]

Quote: svp67

"FOR", at least on the territory of the DPR and LPR

On the territory of the DPR and LPR, we can say now that there are our troops, only staffed mainly by Donetsk and Luhansk people, although there are a lot of "people's volunteers". Of course, these troops are not on the staff of the RF Ministry of Defense, but the army of Novorossiya needs to be improved, supplied, armed - this will be the introduction of troops (and very effective) in modern conditions.
But Donbass is a base, the rest of the territory must be acted by the bulk of the people themselves - opponents of national-Bandera. if they do not rise, then none of our troops will help.
And NATO ... Police operation? It is unlikely. The risks of complications are too high. Well, they will put a hundred, another "policemen", and even who knows who ... What will Merkel and Hollande sing to their electorate?
Thank God, we still mainly rely on the Strategic Missile Forces, and not on "allies" such as Luka, etc. in the vastness of the former USSR.

[svp67]

Quote: Alekseev

What will Merkel and Hollande sing to their electorate?

I'm afraid they will sing "according to the notes of the USA."
Things are really getting serious now. With their sanctions, they simply force us to act more harshly and quickly. If I previously hoped for a peaceful outcome, now there is less and less confidence. We are simply being pushed to quickly resolve the "Ukraine issue", like "no client - no question" ...

Quote: Alekseev

But NATO ... Police operation?

Canadian units are already in Ukraine. The Polish-Ukrainian battalion is deployed to the brigade, where the Lithuanian soldiers are also added. Americans, in general, feel at home there, in the Defense Ministry, in the SBU ... the death of citizens of these countries is just a matter of time, but then a "police operation" may follow ...

[cyberhanter]

What the whole Ukraine

Kiev, glad, junta. arrest

[rzstas]

..that is, in your opinion, no one needs to be trusted !?
Neither to our TV, nor to Ruinsky, nor to Deutsche Welle, nor Sienen ..
And the site has one trend ..
Then, let's reduce the debit with the loan, what are we afraid of?
Ukrainians want to take Crimea away and raze Sevastopol to the ground, the British are generally going to "drive the Russian bear out of the den," the psheks are about to declare war ..
So we’ll send our women with pans, only that remains ..
But in a good way, I pay taxes, our army is professional, let them do their job, politely and quickly.

[maxxdesign]

in the trenches wanted under mines? so go ahead to volunteer!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: ICE

One thing prevented was the dependence of the Russian oligarchs on the West.

Is it only the oligarchs to blame? Remember the articles and comments of that time !!! First (the period of Crimea): Hurray! Crimea is ours! And soon we will enter Kiev; period 2: ah, Bandera killed several people, well, let them try to kill dozens of people! Killed !!! 3 period: Russia cannot fight! -We are not ready! NATO surpasses us in planes, tanks, cannons and the number of fagots in the infantry! The EU (horror) will impose sanctions and we will have to "uproot" swings in our dachas and plant potatoes in flower beds! The Kiev junta, the United States, the EU are killing hundreds of civilians in the Donbass so that Russia will send troops, but Russia will not succumb to this provocation! Because of harm and in order not to be left without Coca-Cola, Russia will not fight, will shake a finger and promise that maybe one day he will punish this harmful Kiev junta! Fools rush into a fight when their relatives and friends are destroyed; and we are smart, like Putin! We will not fight; and why? It's our own fault in the Donbass: There is no need to take populist slogans "Russians do not abandon their own!"; And why did not all the miners abandon their families, mines, and with the "Kalash" did not rush to the tanks !? What is there to argue? Look at yourself, couch warriors! How did you get together in April 2014 for three days to take Kiev! And as in the summer of 2014 they pindikali: we cannot fight, otherwise NATO will do it to us; let the Donbass miners fight and die, why are there so few of them in the militia from 2 regions, less than in the Ukrainian army recruited from dozens of regions ! You didn't want to listen when they told you that sanctions cannot be avoided ; you didn’t want to see when they told you that the war was already going on! Lord, why am I explaining this zasrancam!

[rzstas]

well said..
Nothing to add.
Thank you.

[Serega78]

that the war is already going on! Lord, why am I explaining this to zasrancam! Just don't jump out the window shouting "Russians, sorry, Americans are advancing"

[vodolaz]

Yeah, you can’t go far on all this, however, not far too. In fact, still Soviet developments.

[sazhka4]

Quote: ICE

What prevented Putin from sending troops to Ukraine last March! There would be no serious resistance. As there would be no this crazy war in the Donbass.

That there would be no questions

[svp67]

Quote: sazhka4

That there would be no questions

This was still true in the summer, but now, when the "nova vlada" has already proved its worthlessness and the question of conducting a "police operation" is a cover for the entry of NATO troops, the units of which are already on the territory of Ukraine. So, everything goes to the fact that soon there will be new commercials explaining otherwise ...

[Igarr]

What is more, the country is an aggressor, especially from the side of the press of the clicking West?
We were not good for them, we will never. Aggressor, Progressor, regressor.
Sly fiction.
...
Just imagine ... the infrastructure is normal, the press has not had time to be noted in idiocy, the people are still jumping and jumping, in euphoria that they threw off the bribe-thief. Sorry to beat failed. One Mezhyhirya with golden toilets ... bliiiin, for the Cossacks ... they are wiped with burdocks. Best case scenario.
Everything works, pensions are paid. Gas at a ridiculous price. Everything is. Besides freebies to Europe.
And here - the Russian troops !!!
What for, why, for what. Aaaaaaa, these are Russians - Mongolian-Finnish miscarriages who drink glass. And with the bears in the arms around the dens they rummage around.
...
Have you entered? Or not?
...
That is precisely in order to prevent idiots of a real basis from thinking about the Russians, as about u-b-l-yud_ks, who only want to win someone .... the troops did not enter.
...
Actually, after the Crimea, Russia has no reason at all and there is nowhere to send troops.
".. They will find them themselves, offer them themselves, they will do everything themselves .." - Woland, "The Master and Margarita".

[cyberhanter]

Actually, after the Crimea, Russia has no reason at all and there is nowhere to send troops.

IMHO or did not have to climb into the Crimea, or already vlyapyvatsya in full. and ate the fish, but they refused responsibility for the Donbass. they rose counting on us

[Papakiko]

Quote: Igarr

".. They will find them themselves, offer them themselves, they will do everything themselves .." - Woland, "The Master and Margarita"

That's right !!
For centuries, cast in gold "Who comes to us with something from this and that".
"Bread and salt - We eat our own"
Everything will not apply!
All health, cheerfulness and integrity.

[Vitaly72]

Now that the Russian Federation has not introduced troops, do you think they think differently about us?

[different]

this is not the conduct of geopolitics, it is all its conduct ...

[Stirbjorn]

Purely on the video, I have questions:
1) Why do the authors of the video do not want to apply their arguments to the Crimea? - there is also a government unrecognized by the world community, an unrecognized referendum, etc., but the Russian troops in Crimea and no one declared a war.
2) The lawful president until May was just Yanukovych, recognized by everyone - what prevented him from putting pressure on him to ask him to lead troops?
3) Why do the authors so stubbornly believe that everyone is so afraid to fight for their Fatherland if necessary? This is generally a duty and an honorable duty of any normal man. If they themselves are afraid of trenches, then one should not think that everyone around is like that.

[aleks700]

Questions remained. To stop looking like an aggressor, you need to return the Crimea, pay compensation to Krajina, liquidate the nuclear weapons, and send Putin to resign. In other cases, Russia is an aggressor with all the consequences.

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: ICE

Last March, send troops to Ukraine! There would be no serious resistance.

Two questions:
1. Are you aware that in March 2014 the bulk of the population of the SE was for the "united land"?
2. With a gun would you run there among the disloyal or neutral to Russia population?
PS: in general, it’s better to read international law with comments, compare the attitude of the population of our country to the option of a military solution now and then.

[BOB044]

I would sometimes advise you to include brains.

[enot73]

On the "new Ukrainian" weapons received by equipping the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Where, interestingly, are they going to take dill ammunition for these new products? In addition, they have many components of imported production.

[svp67]

Quote: enot73

Where, interestingly, are they going to take dill ammunition for these new products?

Ever since the tsarist and Soviet times, in the territory of present Ukraine there are sufficient capacities for the production of a cartridge. But now this is really a QUESTION, since their main production was in Lugansk ...

[DUMYCH]

Hmm. In appearance, nothing. According to the characteristics, I can’t judge. However, they can’t even fight on this.

[SHILO]

Good afternoon, Dima! Glad to see on the site.

[varela]

The cross-ripening MIC race certainly produces both freaks and stillborn.
Let them amuse and boast.
I am more concerned about making fun of their blunders and shortcomings with a shortage, we saturated our army with modern and high-quality weapons.
And then there are a lot of developments, but the troops are still sparse ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: varela

The cross-ripening MIC race certainly produces both freaks and stillborn.

This is me, probably after all this "beauty" should I be afraid of the Ukrainian army? Saakashvili said that under the guidance of Georgian instructors, these wonderful guys will be able to conquer all of Russia ..

And I’m not afraid of something ....

It’s not the tank-guns-machine guns that fight on their own. First of all, people fight. The Germans, too, on 22 on June 41 in the Brest Fortress did not understand why the Russians were attacking with stools and shovels from fire shields. True, true - he read in his memoirs. And where are those Germans? The only thing that could be effective for the APU is nuclear weapons. But who will give it to them?

[varela]

Did I say somewhere that we should be afraid?
But there is no need to engage in cap-making!
There’s no arguing with a stool on the tank, historical analogies are not always in place.

[GOgaRu]

Mixed race MIC

Although we have not an early ripening race, but stretched out over decades, the result is the same: the sea has been developed, and only old stuff is used in "business".

[kaa_andrey]

All new products are good when you know how to use them. In the meantime, AK is the most reliable friend and partner in the fighting ...

[Gray 43]

In a word, nothing new, almost, mostly old, good Soviet legacy of varying degrees of corruption, which is passed off as "original design solutions."

[Observer2014]

"What prevented Putin from sending troops to Ukraine in March last year! There would have been no serious resistance. Just as there would have been no such crazy war in Donbass. The one-dependence of the Russian oligarchs on the West prevented."

[Yabobylev]

Donbas, expropriate the Cobra, repaint it in civilian colors and there will be a car for every day, post-war. The cruiser is a great base. Power bumpers are already installed.

[svp67]

Quote: YaBobylev

Donbass, expropriate the Cobra,

Only as a "constructor" "Assemble yourself"

[kassandra1991]

Quote: nhjo

it was not even necessary to send troops, but just a landing on Kiev, at the request of the legitimate president, the arrest of the junta and the most odious maydauns and thousands of lives would be saved. But the wallet presses on the heart and brain. And sanctions would be for anyone.

The only right decision was exactly that, completely agree. On March 2, she wrote to the GDP website: act quickly, proactively ... otherwise the junta will be on its feet and we will be at the price of millions as in 41-M. Remember how ukramiya acted at the beginning. ....and then? Grad tornadoes went into action! And the answer of the Russian Federation? Children are killed, and we cynically bargain for gas, recognize the fascist junta and take beautiful diplomatic poses. The wallet, of course, is most important, and the teachers are still revered - Sobchak. ..We attach a wreath ... commitment and willingness to serve all the same we declare. Is there really no decent left in power at all?
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[29261]

Clowns and stupid people can only jump, scream, slander and shoot at the civilian population. SHAME !!!

[0255]

Only Biden or Obama personally will say to the Kiev junta:
- Dill! Taking advantage of the exclusivity of United States of America, I command you to stop the production of weapons, give factories to American corporations - for free !!! Why do you need the BTR-4 and armored KRAZs - the British delivered the Saxon armored vehicles to you. So what if we offer them to you at a price 25 times more expensive than they cost and they left their place long ago. Don’t worry so much - maybe we will still customize some rusty M113 armored personnel carriers that have passed Vietnam, then half of them will start and cost you like Abrams - this is nonsense. Maybe we will even push you to the Hammers. Or maybe we won’t push it ... And instead of the An-70, we will dig out for you some ancient flying bucket with nuts, maybe it will not fall apart in flight.
Why do you need "Fort" assault rifles - we have a batch of M16s for you, well, and that they are also from the Vietnam War, half of them shoot at best, that we sell them to you at a price 5 times more expensive than the new M4A1. Of course, we have brand new M4A1s with a grenade launcher and an optical sight included - but they will go to Syria to ISIS and "moderate oppositionists" did not let him bomb.
Factory workers immediately send to the ATO zone!
I understand that you want a quick change over cotton wool, that you want something more modern for yourself - but the figurines are not a normal weapon for you.
And say dill
- We are listening, oh master

[padded jacket]

Quote: 0255

Why do you need Fort assault rifles

What do you mean why? They are very fond of them, especially local nationalists, as well as their main "Fuhrer" Turchinov.
Maybe with a licensed "Fort" (or maybe with a "native" Israeli "Tavor")

[padded jacket]

Such a "monster" flashed with them recently. They threaten to make more, and not only in a sanitary version (write base BTR-60)

[Vadim237]

Machine for the treatment of APU generals.

[Kunar]

"Shaman"? But)))))

[0255]

I posted on the forum a photo of the homemade squalor of the APU. Go to the "Military equipment" section of the forum, there is the topic "Photos of military equipment: Ukrainian wunderwaffe"

[Gomunkul]

No, they will not accept her in the dill army as an ambulance. She has no loopholes for machine guns and no turret with a gun.

[sherik]

An 70, yes
Sarmat complex is even less, and some kind of attempts.

[Brummbar]

Well, damn it ... They will soon really have pies of three hryvnias on Red Square.

[pahom54]

I can note not so much the Canadian origin of much of the disclosed in the article (it is clear that the Ukrainian-Canadian diaspora steers), how much Israeli assistance to the country led by the valtsman ... plus everything else and their soldiers and officers fighting on the side of the Armed Forces ... So , THERE Jews protect democracy, and US with the help of the fifth column and the oligarch-thieves methods are trying to destroy the country ...

They didn’t have diplomatic relations with Israel, and we don’t even have to try to get them started ... I’m not trying to denigrate all Jews — only basically their leadership and moneybags ...

[Sailor]

Well done gunsmiths! Even with such low funding, decent models are created or modernized, but you still need money to fine-tune. We should be one country and develop everything, we would achieve great results.

[NewDoctor]

In short, nothing of their own. Either on old resources, or old licenses of Western companies.

[sherik]

And where is their armored UAZ with a toilet booth?

[johnny]

T-64B1M

Tanks, though they arrived at the equipment, but have not yet been noted in the fighting.

there is a video on the network with them in the Donbass

[31rus]

Dear, about the troops, I’m sure if they entered Donbass right after Crimea, we would be considered an aggressor, there would be tough statements, BUT the APU wouldn’t jerk, there wouldn’t be war in the Donbas, the people would support and everything would be as if Crimea, only the fear of the West (that is, not the right calculation) has led to the fact that now we have, regarding weapons, there is no new AGS, there is no armored personnel carrier based on mt-lb (and modifications), then everything that’s raw is the same wrong BTR-3 of different modifications a good car, as the fighting confirmed

[Vitas]

Given the war and the economy in one place, pretty good fuss. Consider also repair of equipment and removal from storage. There is potential, but all this will not confuse. They have already lost the war. They wanted peacekeepers. Let the peacekeepers stand while re-arming themselves, and then we will withdraw them and start fighting again ... More than 200 units near Debaltseve have been lost and these will be there. Wrong weapon send Svidomity. Our enemy in the west !!!
And about the quality of technology, it is not bad ... for my money, of course, and in these conditions.

[erased]

There is a question. 7,62 and 12,7 machine guns, 30 mm guns, ATGMs - whose is this? The legacy of the Soviet Army or already remodels? Where is their license for this? And where is the reaction of the Russian Federation? Lawsuits, inquiries? Why in Nazi-krajina use someone else's and kill the Russians?

The industry of Nazi-Krajina was quite good, because a lot of them remained from the USSR. Rivet completely sane samples. Only this will not help them. No miracle weapons have ever helped the Nazis.

[svp67]

Quote: erased

7,62 and 12,7 machine guns, 30 mm guns, ATGMs - whose is this?

They make machine guns themselves, but these are complete copies of our Kalashnikovs and NSVs. Cannons too. Ukraine has the weakest point - the production of barrels, there is no normal equipment, everything that has already been worn out and produces little quantity and low quality. Before all this "leapfrog" it was the "trunks" that were often bought from us, now in the countries of the former socialist camp or in Israel. But there is a problem with money ... If, then, what has been in stock since Soviet times is still somehow ready to supply in the form of "aid", then the newly produced - only for money. You have to feed your workers.
ATGMs, however, are produced by the Kiev-based "Luch" software, like their developments, but here again, but ... in very large cooperation with the Belarusians. Now they are trying to remake them for "Western" components, but they again require "pennies"

[siberalt]

NATO members will throw some of the "new" Kuevo junta.

[padded jacket]

Here in this video at 1:12 there is a flash of a modernized BMP-1/2 with the Shkval module? (By the way, I saw them in several videos, they were mass-produced this summer) and the rear view is apparently of the BMP-3. Nobody saw them on video in combat conditions (I mean in Novorossiya)?

[IAlex]

At 0:18 and 0:51 they are repairing the PzKpfw III for the Ukroverrmacht, a poor museum, especially since the repairman at 0:59 with a satisfied look declares that they have "all equipment is buried in good conscience" ...

[svp67]

Quote: IAlex

At 0:18 they are repairing PzKpfw III for ukrovermaht ...

This is an old, even before the "Maidan" video

Model of the German T-3 tank created at the factory for reenactors - (base probably GMZ)

[guznorodov]

Kerdyk soon America, I would like to see it in my lifetime.

[ovod84]

and why so many types of armored vehicles cougar patrol for infantry, lacks one universal.

[svp67]

Quote: ovod84

and why so many types of armored vehicles cougar patrol for infantry, lacks one universal.

What NATO has thrown off "from the master's shoulder" is collected. In general, the complete impression is that in Ukraine they are simply being tested in a combat situation in order to refine and then sell. Do not forget that these machines are manufactured in Canada, and in Ukraine they are only ASSEMBLED.

[Aleksandr72]

KrAZ-6322 - is a further development (most likely just an "armored" version) of trucks of the KrAZ-6315 series - a family of 10-ton four-wheel drive (6x6) army vehicles, developed from 1982 until the collapse of the USSR, which in turn was based on KrAZ-260 series. So almost all the equipment and weapons presented in the article are modified samples of technology developed by the Soviet period (with the exception of small arms and KrAZ "armored cars": "Cougar", "Spartan" and "Cobra". A little statistics: in 1998 in service with the army and warehouses of Ukraine were:
4063 tanks (including 320 T-80UD, 2200 T-64, 1300 T-72);
4947 BTR and BMP (including 1500 BMP-1, 1400 BMP-2, 1800 BTR-60/70/80, and BMD-1/2)
3264 barreled artillery units (including 400 M-30 / D-30, 230 D-20, 400 2A36, 1200 self-propelled guns 2S1,2S3,2S5 and 100 2S7 and others)
400 MLRS "Grad" and 230 other MLRS.
940 combat aircraft, including 25 Tu-22M, 160 Su-24, 60 Su-27, 140 MiG-29, 60 MiG-25, 120 MiG-23, 35 Su-25.
160 VTS Il-76, 100 VTS of other types (An-12, An-24, An-74).
helicopters: 24 Mi-24, 170 Mi-8 and 8 Mi-26.
In addition, the Navy included another 50 Tu-22M and 30 MiG-29.
Where could CENSORSHIP such a quantity of military equipment and weapons is known to one Ukrainian gods.
And now, to brag about their shushpanzery, beds-like repaired armored units from warehouses (read tank cemeteries) and armored vehicles assembled on the knee, which are practically never used except in Ukraine, due to many claims to quality, etc.
I have the honor.

[dv_generalov]

sold 80% of all listed

[Vadim237]

This amount must be multiplied by a minimum of one and a half, and another plus tens of millions of tons of ammunition of all calibers to add.

[ivanovich]

The overhaul of the BM-21 artillery unit is carried out by the Shepetivka Repair Plant. In the upgraded version of the BM-21 Bastion-1 (2), the combat characteristics of the complex are improved by using new ammunition, which allows firing up to 40 km. "Bastion-02"

there is no production of BM-21 missiles in Ukraine, so firing with new ammunition at 40 km remained there projects

[svp67]

Quote: ivanovich

there is no production of BM-21 missiles in Ukraine, so firing with new ammunition at 40 km remained there projects

Production was
"State Chemical Association named after Petrovsky"
Address: st. Lenin, 1, Petrovskoe, Krasny Luch, Lugansk region., 94540, Ukraine
Khimobedinenie was founded in 1895, during the war years produced the famous charges for "Katyushas".

[Koresh]

But all this does not fall on the forward units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (except for tanks). All weapons are in the part of the National Guard, count the internal troops, and the battalions of Kaolomoisky (Azov, Dnieper-1, Dnieper-2). And simple motorized infantry units are fighting with the same Soviet legacy. There were cases when a convoy of 9 BTR-80s was sent and only two reached the front line, the rest broke down on the way and the "legendary" Semenchenko also said that he would go to factories to lustrate derectors for poor car repairs. So the quality of the assembly is still relevant for our arms factories.

[S-cream]

Tanks, though they arrived at the equipment, but have not yet been noted in the fighting.

Such outdated information.

[IAlex]

All equipment - coffins on wheels, antediluvian missiles for RPG-7 will make garbage out of them, like large-caliber .50 caliber machine guns with armor-piercing bullets ...

The truck’s only plus is the engine, only the engine will tear off the mine, but since it’s an armored car it’s not clear what will happen from the sound wave in the cargo compartment itself ...

There is not much to say about the BTR 80 - after all, the design of the "new" technology is already under 40 years old ...

About the armored personnel carrier with a 2-stroke engine amused, as well as about the tanks ... I can imagine what kind of stench there is from him, how he smokes, makes noise and breaks ...

The rest of the store junk for fans of the military style, there’s nothing to even discuss ...

[xomaNN]

"By the senka (by the way, like a rabbit hay: ) - and the cap "Poor thing, more empty PR ...

[scary]

I don’t know, maybe Watch-B is still worth mentioning. Bridges from BTR-80 are used there. Now it seems to be made at the Lviv armored plant, although it has not yet been lit up in the Ukrainian troops.

[ViRUS-007]

here recently at http://dnr-news.com/video/15035-test-drayv-kozak-kozak-2-kugar-spartan.html
posted a video with a "test drive": Kozak, Kozak-2, Cougar, Spartan, anyone interested.

[Ant-50]

It looks quite modern, what is shown.

[INF]

I read and realized that they either do it under a license or they raise junk, which is not entirely clear here.

[voveim]

If everything were done quickly - suppress the "Right Sector", "softly and politely" disperse the Rada, support pro-Russian politicians, quietly physically destroy American "advisers" and advisers and obvious spies like Nachivaychenko and others like him (all this dill shukhobot so much in fact, on the strength of 2-5 thousand ...). And everything would have cost much less blood ...

If yes, if only, would grow in the mouth ... remember what? It worked, because it happened, and nothing can be done. Perhaps the lessons to be learned for the future. And one of them (in my humble opinion) is precisely that the Ukrainians should drink their cup to the bottom, themselves - no matter how cruel it sounds. Because otherwise they will again drag out a song about "damned m ... yah" who trampled on their "independence" and "independence".

[vfck]

in principle, there is nothing new, it’s just that the whole deep modernization of well-proven Soviet equipment, the only thing they put on it was a slightly more modernized weapon, and the equipment was basically all western.

[Bender7]

This machine is also assembled from overseas vehicle sets. Here I will simply cite data from other Ukrainian sites, since there is nothing to add or subtract.

Is there any link to at least 1 Ukrainian site?

"Spartan", which entered the units of the Ukrainian army at the end of December 2014, went out of order a month after the start of operation [9], and by January 30, 2015, 12 of the 14 armored vehicles of the 95th separate airmobile brigade were out of order.

How so if 10 Spartans in service with the National Guard!

[Alex_59]

An-70 is not really a purely Ukrainian development. An-70 is indeed a purely Soviet development, and the first copy was assembled in 1991-1994. Like the general designer himself, Antonov is a native of the Moscow region, if that.
An-70 is a highly controversial development. High take-off characteristics are achieved due to the powerful air flow created by the engine propellers on the wing, which greatly reduces landing speed. But the game is not worth the candle - no one in the world today would ever think of putting such an expensive plane on the ground. Well, the laws of physics, of course - if one of the engines wedges off during the take-off at An-70, it falls like a stone, most likely with a flip to the back, while IL-76 will not notice much damage to one of the engines, and will even fly up one engine.

[kelevra]

Well, there’s nothing for the militias to even strain! First, dill don’t have money to build such a thing, but what has already been done will go to the militia! Second, I absolutely don’t believe in the genius of the Ukrop commanders and, especially, soldiers, so They will kill the equipment themselves by and large! The point is not in the super latest technology, but in how to use it!

[GEV67]

The worst thing is that all these weapons are not aimed at protecting the state, but at the destruction of their people!