Should the head of Russia's defense department be a military man? Poll

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Should the Minister of Defense necessarily be a military man?

Yes, for Russia, the head of the army should traditionally be military - 1059 (74.21%)
74.21%
No - 35 (2.45%)
2.45%
Not necessarily, as long as it is a smart and dedicated patriot - 320 (22.42%)
22.42%
I do not know - 2 (0.14%)
0.14%
I will offer my version - 11 (0.77%)
0.77%
Should the head of Russia's defense department be a military man? PollThe current Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation causes very violent feelings among opponents, which often turn into curses. One of the main arguments of his opponents is the fact that the head of the Russian defense ministry is civil. Like, so he does not understand anything in military affairs and ruin the army. But we must objectively consider whether the head of the armed forces should be a military man with military education and service experience, leadership in the army.

Arguments for"

- The leader must know all the details of the case he is in charge of, go a long way from a junior officer to the head of the defense department. Be an expert in their field. Otherwise, it can “break wood”.

- Psychological factor: civilian minister causes distrust. People believe that he is not an expert in the military field and such a person cannot be trusted with the country's defense.

- Traditionally, the army of Russia-Russia-USSR was headed by military people, "voivods" who served almost from birth ("service people"). And the overwhelming part of wars and battles our army won. This is proved by the fact that the army should be led by professional military.

- If the Russian leadership plans to restore Russia as an independent force on the planet, the head of the defense department should be a military specialist, who has come a long way from a lieutenant to a general, with combat experience, a good track record. Only such a person will be authoritative for the army and dangerous for potential aggressors.


Arguments against"

- It’s not at all necessary that the Russian defense minister should necessarily be a military man. In a number of countries, women or men who did not have anything to do with the army became the ministers of defense. The country's defense minister is just a kind of link between the armed forces and the highest authority in the state. For the head of the defense department, it is not necessary to know all the subtleties of military service, military affairs, for this the minister has a lot of deputies, advisers (experts in their field) and the chief of the General Staff. The main thing for the minister is to express the will of the country's leadership, to carry out his decisions.

- A military person is initially associated with the army, he represents the caste of the military, the interests of some group (Air Force, Strategic Missile Forces, Land Forces, etc.). Therefore, it can not be objective.

“And a non-military person can be an excellent organizer, manager who increases the country's defense potential.” So, Stalin, the son of a shoemaker, studied at the priest, Beria graduated from the Baku Secondary Mechanical and Technical Construction School, but both of these managers made a huge contribution to strengthening the defense of the USSR. Therefore, the main difference between the Minister of Defense is not military education, but organizational skills and the psychology of a statesman.

- When reforming the armed forces, that is, at the present time, only a civilian defense minister can carry out important organizational issues. The military corporation is very conservative and slows down the movement forward, the development of the army. The civilian minister is not associated with the military elite corporate ethics.

- The Minister of Defense is a political figure. This person should understand his field of activity, but at the global level - potential enemies, economic opportunities of the country, the main directions of the development of the Armed Forces, etc. More subtle questions are solved with the help of specialists in their field - Air Force, Navy, Ground Forces, Strategic Rocket Forces and etc. In addition, there is still the chief of the General Staff. The main task of the Minister of War is to keep the army combat-ready, while not ruining the state economically. This task can be accomplished by a civilian minister, but at the same time a statesman, a patriot of his country.

- During the transitional period, it is dangerous for the military to give such a post, a conspiracy, mutiny is possible. The civilian minister is a more loyal figure, unrelated to the military caste.
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    1. Gur
      +6
      20 September 2011 07: 35
      Arguments "against" do not apply to Serdyukov! The last point, too, smiled, in my opinion the entire leadership is involved in one conspiracy, to plunder and collapse of the country. True, the one-sided development of the Armed Forces, which we periodically had, is also not good. Well, it's still better than decline in general at the present time. With the policy of optimizing Serdyukov's expenses, officers for the service will soon have to acquire for themselves not only uniforms and weapons, but also the type of equipment on which they will have to serve (following the example of the Cossacks), be it an airplane, a tank or a ship.
    2. -11
      20 September 2011 07: 46
      I do not think that the Minister of Defense should be a military man. Rather, he should be a competent manager and economist. And for military affairs there is a general staff.
      1. pokermen
        +19
        20 September 2011 09: 44
        Let’s then appoint the chief physician of the managers ...... what difference does it make how many people will turn back, most importantly the money is whole
        1. +5
          20 September 2011 11: 49
          If we go down to the hospital level, then I’ll say that the hospital should have chapters. Doctor and hospital manager. Should not have chapters. the doctor is engaged in organizing the maintenance of the medical process (he simply will not have time for medical activity). Our system in this case is not correct. I believe that it is necessary to share the functionality (the General Staff should be engaged in preparation for war (training, the development of charters, etc.) + the conduct of hostilities, and the Minister of Defense with military construction, the defense industry and the development strategy of the army. And let the parade finally be the chief The General Staff accepts. The Pindos’s functionality is divided, the system is more stable and flexible because of this and there is competition between the heads of the army and the Ministry of Defense (and we have a minister who’s not suitable, the General Staff submits to him and the ass from this is simply huge and the opportunities for there is no discussion about the development of the army and defense.) Yes, and our strange reform we take all the harmful from the Pindos system, but all that is not useful.
          1. 0
            20 September 2011 16: 59
            With the last phrase you said a lot or wanted to say, but because of the harmfulness you did not say anything. With the last phrase, I agree.
        2. pokermen
          +2
          20 September 2011 12: 18
          Although if you take the main ministries, it turns out that way:

          Golikova T.A.. (Madame Arbidol) - Minister of Health and Social. development
          Financier,
          Wife of the Minister of Trade Khristenko

          Serdyukov A.E (Taburetkin) - Minister of Defense
          Tax officer, sold furniture
          Son-in-law of the First Deputy. Prime Minister Zubkov

          Skrynnik E.B. (Madame Leasing) - Minister of Agriculture
          Medic, head of Rosagroleasing
          Godmother of Kasyanov’s daughter, according to some sources, Khristenko’s sister

          Avdeev A.A.- Minister of Culture
          Ambassador, Diplomat
          1. +2
            20 September 2011 14: 12
            Again, I wrote before about the system, if we have a civil society, then there must be civilian control, which means there must be a civilian minister. I didn’t write that all these personalities suit me, I wrote that I am not happy with the system that we have now, because it allows us to reform the army in the way that it is now and I believe that we need to refine it. And now you are proposing to appoint a military officer and he will solve all your problems. And since you like listing names, who do you propose for the post of Minister of Defense?
        3. +4
          20 September 2011 16: 55
          Look at our ministers from the GDP team. Almost all of us are busy with the wrong things we studied for or at least worked for. And this is a diagnosis.
      2. oper66
        +3
        20 September 2011 12: 02
        one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, then along the way to the post of minister, he will go through many steps and each he will have to overcome them, to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect the homeland. That is, if the minister is a military minister, then until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and even be appointed to prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without professional selection criteria, which we observe and have the mess and the destruction of the army and, consequently, the destruction of the country's defense. Although it seems to me that if Serdyukov had a parish education, he would probably have instilled patriotic feelings for the motherland.
        1. 0
          20 September 2011 12: 33
          The question is where do they teach finance, budgeting, strategic management? And here the survey was not about the person, but about the organization of the system of building the Ministry of Defense, and you all are Serdyukov, yes Serdyukov. I for what would be functional, was divided, and you for what would not. You have a reasonable argument like, if tomorrow is a war, we need a Minister of War, and I ask who he will be at the headquarters of the Supreme High Command. In addition, I believe that managers should be taught and trained. Why does the Pindos general often have a second education, or read Cheney’s biography with him and everything went well in Panama and it was normal with Iraq.
          1. oper66
            +4
            20 September 2011 14: 45
            previously there were military quarter schools where they trained officers of the rear services who solved all issues in the military department and now the ministry is ruled by managers who have a vague or no idea about military affairs at the time when Stalin had generals in the development and conduct of the operation and he claimed the most rational, in agreement with the opinion of the majority of the generals like Hitler similarly, and who told you that the operations were successfully carried out in Vietnam and Iraq in history, the civilian department (MFA), considering global policy issues, posed before the military possible ways to solve them if the military scenario of events was inevitable the military developed and implemented these decisions. If a financial finder works in the Moscow Region, then he must first of all have a military education and a secondary specialization in finance and without this in any way, especially to the Minister of Defense
      3. oper66
        -1
        20 September 2011 12: 20
        one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, he will go through many steps along the way to the post of minister and each one he will have to overcome; he will have to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect his homeland. That is, if the Minister is military, then, until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and will even be appointed to show and prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without the criteria for professional selection, which we observe
      4. oper66
        -1
        20 September 2011 12: 20
        one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, he will go through many steps along the way to the post of minister and each one he will have to overcome; he will have to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect his homeland. That is, if the Minister is military, then, until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and will even be appointed to show and prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without the criteria for professional selection, which we observe
      5. oper66
        -1
        20 September 2011 12: 20
        one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, he will go through many steps along the way to the post of minister and each one he will have to overcome; he will have to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect his homeland. That is, if the Minister is military, then, until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and will even be appointed to show and prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without the criteria for professional selection, which we observe
      6. oper66
        0
        20 September 2011 12: 22
        one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, he will go through many steps along the way to the post of minister and each one he will have to overcome; he will have to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect his homeland. That is, if the Minister is military, then, until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and will even be appointed to show and prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without the criteria for professional selection, which we observe
      7. +8
        20 September 2011 16: 53
        Do you take our felmebel Taburetkin as a sample? He is an economist, a lawyer, a manager, even an excellent furniture seller, and a relative ... But why then does the Army hate him from cleaning lady to generals? Why does the country's population negatively perceive all his statements? Why does he behave like a lord with people who give their health and life to strengthen the country's defense? Why does he hate all veterans - war, military service, veterans of the defense industry? Why did he, having arrived with the president in Ulan-Ude, make the commanders of the units wait for him from 18.00 to 0.20 hours and still ride - "What, do you want to sleep?" Why did he surround himself with boys and girls, providing them with comfortable working conditions, and corners the officers? Why, sent to the army to carry out one task - to track financial flows, imagined himself a strategist and began restructuring in the army, destroying its combat effectiveness and combat readiness ? Even his accomplice Makarov said that there was no and there was no scientific justification for the ongoing reforms in the army. All the troubles of the army can be listed indefinitely. But this, unfortunately, will not make our military and political leadership any smarter. Successful managers decide everything. Serdyukov did not become a statesman. As he was a financier, he remained so. The Minister of Defense must also have the talents of a politician and at least get acquainted with the elementary concepts and knowledge of army specifics. When presenting the Battle Banner to one of the units in Ulan-Ude, even the commentator noticed that Serdyukov had taken a wrong place in the ranks and with a displeased face on his face was forced to step aside. He is good at keeping the army in economy mode, but our security only suffers from it.
        1. +3
          20 September 2011 17: 39
          Conduct a survey whether it is necessary to dismiss Taburetkin on this forum, then even those who are in the negative will say that it is definitely necessary. The result, I think, will be somewhere around 99,999 percent "for". Again, I repeat, about the systematic approach. You won't argue that the best defense minister of the USSR is Ustinov, by the way he came from the people's commissars of armaments (he was not a military man). It was under him that the SA made a big step forward in armaments (but the country's economy, from this, overstrained). By the fact that the person knew the military-industrial complex inside and out. And the ability to count and save money in the modern capitalist world is very important (even the United States is going to save on defense (or offense)).
    3. +12
      20 September 2011 09: 00
      Indeed, neither "for" or "against" is acceptable to Serdyuk. This is a man in whose head, in my opinion, thoughts are spinning where to sleep ... and how to save money in order to sleep ... he is not a tactician and not even a theoretician. He stupidly obeys his instinct "stool." Such a person in no case should be at the head of our MO. He would be equal to people like L. Rokhlin, G. Troshev.
      1. +19
        20 September 2011 09: 24
        In a number of countries, women, or men who had nothing to do with the army, generally become defense ministers.

        And in a number of countries same-sex marriages are allowed, what now is equal in everything to them? The minister must be a man with solid experience in command and preferably in combat conditions, otherwise Mercedes and gilded bedroom sets will be adopted
        1. +4
          20 September 2011 15: 16
          I remember a few years ago on TV they showed the plot as the Spanish Minister of Defense (it seems Karma Chacon was her name) - a pregnant woman with a huge belly received a report from some Spanish military in front of the troops built. The sight was worthy of Gaidai's comedy.
    4. Owl
      +9
      20 September 2011 09: 27
      As the "president" and "prime minister" are, so is the "minister of defense". This "team to break up and destroy the country" is very close to achieving the task.
    5. +7
      20 September 2011 09: 46
      Russia is not a country that can have a non-professional defense minister.
      It is in Finland where nothing depends in the world on her own and her armed forces, can afford to have a purely political person in this post.
      Should a strategic bomber commander be a pilot? Or it’s enough just for the second pilot to be a pilot. The answer to this question is as they say without options.
      The commander in chief of Russia is a lawyer.
      Prime Minister, lawyer, KGB lieutenant colonel.
      Minister of Defense, Tax Law Specialist.
      And in case of military danger, these officials should make a decision. One NGS will not bring the whole cart of problems alone.
      How can Serdyukov even participate in negotiations on military issues with the same NATO, without being a professional?
      1. +4
        20 September 2011 10: 21
        Quote: stas
        It is in Finland where nothing depends in the world on her own and her armed forces, can afford to have a purely political person in this post.


        Undoubtedly. Moreover, in a country that is not going to take part in any conflicts. Here in countries such as Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, they just need DEFENSE, because they don’t need to attack anyone, to conduct offensive actions.
        About Russia this, alas, can not be said. Especially after 2008.

        To be honest, the role of the General Staff and the General Staff is also somehow relegated to the background. Convenient position, on the one hand, "I followed the order of the Minister of Defense," yes, try not to, they will find another who will. But still, the General Staff is not a gathering of cadets, after all, there must be people with both experience and understanding.

        It is unrealistic to require a civilian to understand exactly the STRATEGIC issues. But in this case, the GSh should stand behind him, who will prepare everything and chew it into dust. And the Defense Ministry will have to "pronounce the verdict" with an air of importance.

        Personal opinion: a civilian can also be a minister of defense. The whole question is, WHAT person is he? If someone like Shoigu, for example, why not? It is unlikely that he was an expert in matters of work in emergency situations. I remember when he was appointed, the people also booted "here, young, right now, to the end, everything will ruin everything." Didn't ruin it. Moreover, it seems to me how the Ministry of Emergency Situations works - not a single ministry works this way. Yes, they piled up a lot of money, but who knows how much money is poured into other ministries? And how are they used there. There is no need for additional control in the Emergencies Ministry.

        And returning to the question of the topic ... Yes, a civilian may be the Minister of Defense. But Serdyukov is not the right person.

        Shoigu would clone ... so forbidden. It's a pity.
        1. dmb
          +3
          20 September 2011 10: 43
          Your admiration for Shoigu is understandable. But this is if you do not know all the ins and outs. Analyze the activities of this "heroic" department and its functions. I'm not talking about that insignificant part of it that really does the difficult, dangerous and necessary work: rescuers, firefighters, doctors. And what is the rest of the horde of colonel-generals, led by the general of the army, doing?
          They "track" and show the bosses on plasma screens, how the forest burns or floods the houses in a flood. And ordinary builders, doctors and foresters eliminate the consequences. I often had to visit places of emergency. So, the main activity of the multicast EMERCOM chiefs was not in organizing the elimination of emergencies, others were engaged in this, but in reports to the senior authorities on how others work, and in the distribution of interviews to the press. Isn't it too expensive for the country to keep a bunch of inspectors, who do not decide anything and, by and large, do nothing.
          1. 0
            20 September 2011 11: 03
            Yes, such a story can be seen everywhere. This is understandable and is not subject to dispute, that some are given, while others are turning bags. It always has been. Red tape is eternal and indestructible. The whole question is in its scope.

            But I meant that the ministry is working and working normally, oddly enough. And this is Shoigu's merit. It seems to me that the "insignificant part" is still not so. I judge by my area, by the last year, when everything was on fire. There were a lot of people (I won't say enough), but here the inhabitants have already risen.

            And four years ago, in the forest, near our camp there was a fire. We moved there, started digging. called firefighters. They arrived an hour later, when we had already ... smoked up.
            They arrived at the test: first they got lost, then when they saw the fire, they turned around and went to fetch water (they had a 200 on the counter). We say: leave the shovels to us. And they are not. Like this.
            And then, the further, the better. Now this will not meet. I just come across a forest fire every year. I know.
            1. 0
              20 September 2011 14: 38
              Banshee
              And what was the name of the car that came to you to extinguish the fire? On the back of each fire engine there are letters AC, AN, AL, PNS, AR, AGVT, Sh, etc. There are just cars in which water is not provided at all. firefighters cannot come without water. And the authorities in the Ministry of Emergency Situations are needed in order to organize headquarters and any unnecessary activities, and most importantly, that it would not be possible to make someone responsible for the failure. Although someone was responsible for incorrect extinguishing and death People? There is always a switchman, but not from the headquarters. Believe me, it is very bad when they control fire extinguishing, as we say "no extinguishers".
              I think the minister of defense should be a person: not indifferent to his country and army, it is better if he went from lieutenant and further, so that he would understand what service is and how ordinary soldiers and officers serve. RUSSIA has many good, military generals. Unfortunately, many of the very worthy are no longer alive. Why random people are appointed to positions of responsibility, as they say "good managers", when it is necessary to appoint good military specialists at all defies explanation.
              1. 0
                20 September 2011 14: 44
                Quote: Wyalik
                Simply, there are cars in which there is no provision for water at all.


                Killed on the spot.
                I do not remember the marking, I was somewhat busy with the extinguishing.
                And why send a call (we normally said that the forest is burning) a car in which
                Quote: Wyalik
                And to say that firefighters arrived without water is impossible.


                You can say that. Especially if they arrived without water. And no shovels. And the calculation consisted of two people. It was a fuck off.
                1. 0
                  20 September 2011 14: 58
                  Banshee
                  Of these machines I have listed, only cars with the AC marking have a water tank. Depending on the make of the car and the amount of it. According to the report card, each machine has one bayonet shovel and two or three "crackers". These are such big things that are usually they beat flies, but of a large size. Maybe a PSO (fire and patrol) car came to you. And a "hose car" could be sent to the call, if there is a reservoir somewhere nearby.
        2. LESHA pancake
          +1
          20 September 2011 17: 09
          by no means a civilian. this one was brought to us from the west. let's put a drunk plumber at the helm of a Boeing we’ll get it, you yourself understand what.
          1. mitrich
            0
            20 September 2011 17: 17
            LYOKHA pancake,
            Voroshilov, Bulganin, Ustinov were not professional military men, which did not prevent them from becoming at different times the head of the USSR Ministry of Defense.
            So it’s not yours that this tradition is a purely Western invention.
    6. pokermen
      +3
      20 September 2011 09: 52
      What can I say if Taburetkin has half of the deputies from the Federal Tax Service, and for the supply of weapons and special. funds are answered by the woman financier
    7. SAVA555.IVANOV
      0
      20 September 2011 10: 18
      I think DEFENSE MINISTER must first love their country and their people, to clearly understand WHO IS the eternal enemy of thy kindred and based on that ANY PERSON OUT OF WOULD for the post they should pursue one goal is defense of the state in spite of everything, as the president THE USA - WHO WOULD NOT BECOME THEY ALL AIM TO THE WHOLE WORLD AND INCLUDING RUSSIA BUT EVERYONE ON HIS LAD, ONLY A MILITARY SHOULD BE THE MINISTER OF DEFENSE CALLED ONLY ONE ISSUE NEGOTI STEGOZHODA IN MOSCOW MAKE INAPPROPRIATE DECISIONS. ALL FUTURE HIGHER OFFICIALS OF THE STATE SHOULD BE REACHED FROM A LITTLE YEARS AND "NEWS" IN LIFE FORMING HIS CONSCIOUSNESS AND ENVIRONMENT, THEN PI .. IT IS LIKE HEDGEHOGS, THERE WON'T LIKE TO GET INTO THE POWER, YOU WILL HAPPEN VERY LUCK WITH PUTIN AND WITH SUCH A PERSON IN THE AUTHORITIES IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THE "FURNITER" TO SIT ONLY THE HOUSEHOLD'S ENOUGH, FIND THE SAME MONEY TO DEVELOP NEW WEAPONS!
    8. Siberian
      +1
      20 September 2011 10: 39
      Yes, there are no problems with the civilian MO. Serdyukov is not the first in Russia. Remember the General of the Army I.N. Rodionov. But he was "gone" because he misunderstood the reforms of Baturin (lawyer and political scientist) and Kokoshin (military political scientist). Subsequently, there were options with normal civilian MO. General Trosheva G.N. instead of the Ministry of Defense, they were appointed advisor to the President on the Cossacks, and then they were killed altogether. We have many generals in reserve, let them be CIVIL Defense Ministers.
      Quote: "For the head of the defense department it is not necessary to know all the intricacies of military service, military affairs, for this the minister has a lot of deputies, advisers (experts in their field) and the chief of the General Staff." It is possible to agree here too, but ... NGSH is a weak and weak-willed person, the other seven are:
      - Sukhorukov A.P. (1st deputy), a tanker by training, the whole service went to the KGB, from the 96th in financial institutions;
      - Pankov N.A. (State Secretary), pure KGB officer, manages personnel;
      - Antonov A.I. (deputy), personnel diplomat;
      - Army General Bulgakov D.V. (deputy), rear;
      - Chushkin D.A. (deputy), in civilian life - a tax specialist, is responsible for improving the efficiency of the management system, as well as for maintaining and developing the basis of the management system;
      - Shevtsova T.V. (deputy), tax specialist, deals with housing problems, pricing of military products;
      - Mokretsov M.P. (deputy), tax financier, financial support of the Armed Forces.
      Official information: http://structure.mil.ru/management/deputy.htm
      1. LESHA pancake
        0
        20 September 2011 17: 06
        shorter than seven nannies, have a baby
    9. zczczc
      +2
      20 September 2011 12: 10
      Why is there no point "Yes" without specifying "for Russia"?

      In fact - in theory it can be civil in peacetime, but he must know the army and its problems from the inside better than many military men, i.e. spend his whole life in the army. I think there are few such people, it is someone who has not passed through health, etc., but has worked in the army.

      Quite in theory, maybe even a civilian who is far from the army, but then he must be a really brilliant leader, catching on the fly and a patriot at the same time. It is generally unknown whether there are such people - all the "brilliant" leaders in our country are somehow infected with Chubais' meat ...

      In general, civil is a purely theoretical unlikely opportunity. We do not know such people.
    10. oper66
      0
      20 September 2011 12: 24
      I apologize for the repetition of the comment; the computer sagged if the administrator can delete the replays
    11. merkawa
      +1
      20 September 2011 12: 29
      It is not a matter of what kind of environment the Minister of Defense should be, but how he understands the work itself for the benefit of the state and the people and how he does this work so that defense is at its best. As long as this has not been seen for a long time of all the perestroika and other things verbiage invented from above. As for the current Minister of Defense, and not only him, they solve the tasks launched from above and they don’t care about all the requests of their own ministries and departments, just to stay in the chair and at the feeding trough fellow
      1. +2
        20 September 2011 12: 56
        More than I’m sure, a professional, who has let down the task, will solve it correctly, competently and with benefit, in any case, than any manager who can do such a foolish zeal that it will take a very long and painful time to understand.
    12. Sanzyro
      +3
      20 September 2011 12: 53
      No, why ... Let it be a cesspool worker! The furniture maker steers! The experiments are ongoing! And the Minister of Defense - a former couturier and preferably with a non-traditional secular orientation - is generally a powerful thing !!! wink
    13. Sergh
      +1
      20 September 2011 14: 39
      Well at the time of the comments, approve! In the hole! Vadivak, Stas-well done! Even in winter I said on other sites: "Serdyuk, at the most, until April 12th to sit as minister ..."
      Yes, right, as in life, if I say a programmer, but I want to become the head of sewing production; I grew flowers, I want to be the director of pipe production. Russia is not the case where the equality of Finns, Belgium, the Netherlands, such positions can be traded. The Ministry of Defense, this is in Russia with its territory of three and a half (with a hook) of America, this is not shaking-lyasim.
      Well, closer to the topic: 08, everyone remembers. The ministry’s building is undergoing major renovations of rooms, all cabinets are on suitcases. S Yu.O. It’s impossible to get through. A little watchman (figuratively) takes a call, i.e. communication is broken. The actions of the Moscow Region are spantaneous, I'm afraid to say unpredictable. Redundant communication points are not provided. In short, simply an emergency.
      In short, the civilian carpenter in Russia can’t plan ahead, predict, know the immediate situation, military, army tactics and other gadgets with the ensuing ... Why don’t we have good real warriors, honest, gunpowder in battles ... But then on the situation, you see, will be better!
    14. +2
      20 September 2011 15: 03
      The final decision on the adoption of new types of weapons and equipment for weapons is made by the Minister of Defense. If a person who cannot, roughly speaking, distinguish a machine gun from an assault rifle, how can he decide on new types of weapons. Hence it follows that our military industrial complex is in one place, while we buy weapons behind the knoll. Take for example the contract with Iveco. Or planned transition to berets instead of kepi.
    15. gans
      +1
      20 September 2011 15: 24
      if you don’t care whom to be minister, then you need to choose him from circus clowns, it will be more fun for soldiers
      1. 0
        20 September 2011 17: 07
        And the fun of the service will not be a hindrance.
    16. +5
      20 September 2011 16: 35
      I believe that the MAIN quality of the Minister of Defense and any ruler of Russia should be:
      1. Patriotism
      2. Love for Mother Russia
      3. The roots in the army, only a man who has grown up in a military environment will be able to understand all the intricacies of army life.
      4. Pass the Army School of Life, and at that, without wiping off the offices at the headquarters, but in the "fields" where he, on an equal footing with the soldiers, passes the obstacle course.
      5. As the Voivode the Father was called in Russia before ... this is how the Minister should take care of almost everyone in his submission.
      1. mitrich
        -4
        20 September 2011 17: 01
        Asmodey,
        and he should have a beard and bast shoes wink ... Mother Russia, governor-father ... Directly a character of Russian folklore!
        First of all, he should have a head on his shoulders, because the presence of a cap on it does not guarantee the army of an ideal minister.
        1. +3
          20 September 2011 17: 39
          head by itself. for the past 20 years we have had enough of headless power ... we can observe the results ourselves ....
    17. atheist
      +1
      20 September 2011 17: 50
      for the defense ministry must military
      for the Ministry of Health and Social Development, a doctor and so on
      and the president should know everything a little from this, and not just dance and ride bikes
    18. mitrich
      0
      20 September 2011 18: 04
      Why do cops go on patrol in three?
      Because one can read.
      The second is able to write.
      And the third pretends that he can do both.
      1. Sanzyro
        0
        20 September 2011 23: 49
        And the mounted police? This is what happens - one head is good, and two is better? wink
        1. SAVA555.IVANOV
          -2
          20 September 2011 23: 54
          ZADORNOV RELAXES !! wink
      2. Sanzyro
        0
        20 September 2011 23: 50
        And the mounted police? This is what happens - one head is good, and two is better? wink
      3. Sanzyro
        0
        20 September 2011 23: 50
        And the mounted police? This is what happens - one head is good, and two is better? wink
    19. +2
      20 September 2011 18: 34
      MO should definitely be a general, such a normal general with a head, knowledge of army life, a professional, most likely a combined arms (with the mandatory presence of commander-in-chief), with combat experience and with progressive views on the use of the VS. It is very important to choose a team, even boys and girls , with the brains of narrowly focused specialists. Here then the T90 will be a modern tank, the peduks will not develop uniforms for the military, the troops will be engaged in PSUs and the cleaners will clean the soldiers' outhouses. And the MO should correctly manage and direct all this. Where can a teacher, a medic, lawyer and so on?
    20. ZEBRASH
      +1
      20 September 2011 18: 44
      The military should be at least somehow. And preferably in turn: airborne forces, admiral, general of tank forces, etc. smile So that each develops in turn their own areas, but not to the detriment of others. If he comes from the same kind of troops, then he will sympathize with his own.
      1. +1
        20 September 2011 20: 53
        Only a combined arms general. Others NOW!
        1. Sanzyro
          0
          20 September 2011 23: 52
          Do not crawl! In the narrow corridors of power-not to crawl ... winked
    21. +3
      20 September 2011 19: 35
      In my opinion, it’s better to appoint Shamanov the Commander of the Airborne Forces as the Minister of Defense. This is a real man. An educated military man. How can he spin and don’t think that his wards will get new weapons. He’s constantly introducing something new. A man would be dedicated to his work. excellent defense minister. But Putin makes his buddies and friends everywhere!
    22. baikal79
      0
      21 September 2011 03: 14
      to restore Russia as an independent force on the planet, the head of the defense department should be a military specialist who has come a long way from a lieutenant to a general, with military experience and a good track record. Only such a person will be authoritative for the army and dangerous for potential aggressors.


      I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT !!! AND ONLY SO AND NOT OTHERWISE !!!!
    23. 0
      21 September 2011 11: 14
      about Shoigu, this year I watched the news the first video about the teachings of the Ministry of Emergency Situations to extinguish forest fires: helicopters, airplanes involved equipment. Immediately after him, a video about a forest fire somewhere in Siberia shows ice with satchels and shovels. Well, who after this shoigu ??????
      1. neziz
        0
        30 September 2011 15: 52
        More about the fires: in August a week near Elektrogorsk they extinguished helicopters Ka-26, one Be-200 and about 30 pozh. cars. And the peat kept burning until it began to rain for two days (half a month) and put out everything. But the shoigu left the builders and apparently had a fireman specialty in military training at the institute.
    24. Al2504
      +3
      21 September 2011 11: 52
      IVASHOV
      Leonid Grigorievich

      Colonel-General, Head of the Main Directorate of International Military Cooperation of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (1996–2000), Chairman of the Russian Military-Power Union, Vice-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor.

      This man, although he is now in reserve, can and should take the post of Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. Or in the near future Russia will not have an army, and as a consequence of this, and Russia itself.
      1. neziz
        0
        30 September 2011 15: 44
        Ivashov did not serve from and to. He was an adjutant with Ustinov, possibly in international cooperation. Those. rather, it’s a parquet colonel general.
    25. +4
      21 September 2011 12: 02
      I believe that all leadership positions, both the country as a whole and its individual enterprises and ministries, should be held only by people who have worked in this area for a sufficient period of time, have sufficient work experience and the most important thing about these people can really be said that they are professionals in their field. Today, most ministries employ people who do not have specific experience in the field in which they work. This definitely contributes to the collapse of the country.
    26. lightforcer
      +1
      1 November 2011 14: 02
      Of course, he must be a military man, but he must also have an additional economic education. But it’s extra!
    27. Stasi.
      0
      7 March 2012 20: 54
      As the saying goes, the trouble is if the shoemaker starts to bake the pies, and the boots go on the cake. There must be professionals in any business! And the Minister of Defense should be a military man who has gone through all levels from lieutenant to army general, with a higher military education. A civilian defense minister like Serdyukov is absolutely incapable of controlling the armed forces and making strategic decisions.
    28. Sergik527
      0
      31 July 2012 18: 09
      In the country there is a commander in chief, therefore he is not unmissable to be a military man. That would not need to steal epaulets.

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