Should the head of Russia's defense department be a military man? Poll

Should the Minister of Defense necessarily be a military man?

Yes, for Russia, the head of the army should traditionally be military - 1059 (74.26%)
74.26%
No - 35 (2.45%)
2.45%
Not necessarily, as long as it is a smart and dedicated patriot - 319 (22.37%)
22.37%
I do not know - 2 (0.14%)
0.14%
I will offer my version - 11 (0.77%)
0.77%
Should the head of Russia's defense department be a military man? PollThe current Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation causes very violent feelings among opponents, which often turn into curses. One of the main arguments of his opponents is the fact that the head of the Russian defense ministry is civil. Like, so he does not understand anything in military affairs and ruin the army. But we must objectively consider whether the head of the armed forces should be a military man with military education and service experience, leadership in the army.


Arguments for"

- The leader must know all the details of the case he is in charge of, go a long way from a junior officer to the head of the defense department. Be an expert in their field. Otherwise, it can “break wood”.

- Psychological factor: civilian minister causes distrust. People believe that he is not an expert in the military field and such a person cannot be trusted with the country's defense.

- Traditionally, the army of Russia-Russia-USSR was headed by military people, "voivods" who served almost from birth ("service people"). And the overwhelming part of wars and battles our army won. This is proved by the fact that the army should be led by professional military.

- If the Russian leadership plans to restore Russia as an independent force on the planet, the head of the defense department should be a military specialist, who has come a long way from a lieutenant to a general, with combat experience, a good track record. Only such a person will be authoritative for the army and dangerous for potential aggressors.


Arguments against"

- It’s not at all necessary that the Russian defense minister should necessarily be a military man. In a number of countries, women or men who did not have anything to do with the army became the ministers of defense. The country's defense minister is just a kind of link between the armed forces and the highest authority in the state. For the head of the defense department, it is not necessary to know all the subtleties of military service, military affairs, for this the minister has a lot of deputies, advisers (experts in their field) and the chief of the General Staff. The main thing for the minister is to express the will of the country's leadership, to carry out his decisions.

- A military person is initially associated with the army, he represents the caste of the military, the interests of some group (Air Force, Strategic Missile Forces, Land Forces, etc.). Therefore, it can not be objective.

“And a non-military person can be an excellent organizer, manager who increases the country's defense potential.” So, Stalin, the son of a shoemaker, studied at the priest, Beria graduated from the Baku Secondary Mechanical and Technical Construction School, but both of these managers made a huge contribution to strengthening the defense of the USSR. Therefore, the main difference between the Minister of Defense is not military education, but organizational skills and the psychology of a statesman.

- When reforming the armed forces, that is, at the present time, only a civilian defense minister can carry out important organizational issues. The military corporation is very conservative and slows down the movement forward, the development of the army. The civilian minister is not associated with the military elite corporate ethics.

- The Minister of Defense is a political figure. This person should understand his field of activity, but at the global level - potential enemies, economic opportunities of the country, the main directions of the development of the Armed Forces, etc. More subtle questions are solved with the help of specialists in their field - Air Force, Navy, Ground Forces, Strategic Rocket Forces and etc. In addition, there is still the chief of the General Staff. The main task of the Minister of War is to keep the army combat-ready, while not ruining the state economically. This task can be accomplished by a civilian minister, but at the same time a statesman, a patriot of his country.

- During the transitional period, it is dangerous for the military to give such a post, a conspiracy, mutiny is possible. The civilian minister is a more loyal figure, unrelated to the military caste.
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  1. Gur
    Gur 20 September 2011 07: 35 New
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    The arguments against do not apply to Serdyukov! The last paragraph, also smiled, in my opinion the entire leadership is involved in one conspiracy, to plunder and collapse the country. True, the one-sided development of the Armed Forces, which we periodically had, is also not good. Well, it's better than general decline today. With the policy of optimizing Serdyukov’s expenses, soon officers for the service will have to acquire for themselves not only uniforms and weapons, but also the type of equipment on which they will serve (following the example of the Cossacks), whether it be an airplane, a tank or a ship.
  2. kagorta 20 September 2011 07: 46 New
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    I do not think that the Minister of Defense should be a military man. Rather, he should be a competent manager and economist. And for military affairs there is a general staff.
    1. pokermen
      pokermen 20 September 2011 09: 44 New
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      Let’s then appoint the chief physician of the managers ...... what difference does it make how many people will turn back, most importantly the money is whole
      1. kagorta 20 September 2011 11: 49 New
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        If we go down to the hospital level, then I’ll say that the hospital should have chapters. Doctor and hospital manager. Should not have chapters. the doctor is engaged in organizing the maintenance of the medical process (he simply will not have time for medical activity). Our system in this case is not correct. I believe that it is necessary to share the functionality (the General Staff should be engaged in preparation for war (training, the development of charters, etc.) + the conduct of hostilities, and the Minister of Defense with military construction, the defense industry and the development strategy of the army. And let the parade finally be the chief The General Staff accepts. The Pindos’s functionality is divided, the system is more stable and flexible because of this and there is competition between the heads of the army and the Ministry of Defense (and we have a minister who’s not suitable, the General Staff submits to him and the ass from this is simply huge and the opportunities for there is no discussion about the development of the army and defense.) Yes, and our strange reform we take all the harmful from the Pindos system, but all that is not useful.
        1. AleksUkr 20 September 2011 16: 59 New
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          With the last phrase you said a lot or wanted to say, but because of the harmfulness you did not say anything. With the last phrase, I agree.
      2. pokermen
        pokermen 20 September 2011 12: 18 New
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        Although if you take the main ministries, it turns out that way:

        Golikova T.A.. (Madame Arbidol) - Minister of Health and Social. development
        Financier,
        Wife of the Minister of Trade Khristenko

        Serdyukov A.E (Taburetkin) - Minister of Defense
        Tax officer, sold furniture
        Son-in-law of the First Deputy. Prime Minister Zubkov

        Skrynnik E.B. (Madame Leasing) - Minister of Agriculture
        Medic, head of Rosagroleasing
        Godmother of Kasyanov’s daughter, according to some sources, Khristenko’s sister

        Avdeev A.A.- Minister of Culture
        Ambassador, Diplomat
        1. kagorta 20 September 2011 14: 12 New
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          Again, I wrote before about the system, if we have a civil society, then there must be civilian control, which means there must be a civilian minister. I didn’t write that all these personalities suit me, I wrote that I am not happy with the system that we have now, because it allows us to reform the army in the way that it is now and I believe that we need to refine it. And now you are proposing to appoint a military officer and he will solve all your problems. And since you like listing names, who do you propose for the post of Minister of Defense?
      3. AleksUkr 20 September 2011 16: 55 New
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        Look at our ministers from the GDP team. Almost all of us are busy with the wrong things we studied for or at least worked for. And this is a diagnosis.
    2. oper66
      oper66 20 September 2011 12: 02 New
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      one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, then along the way to the post of minister, he will go through many steps and each he will have to overcome them, to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect the homeland. That is, if the minister is a military minister, then until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and even be appointed to prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without professional selection criteria, which we observe and have the mess and the destruction of the army and, consequently, the destruction of the country's defense. Although it seems to me that if Serdyukov had a parish education, he would probably have instilled patriotic feelings for the motherland.
      1. kagorta 20 September 2011 12: 33 New
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        The question is where do they teach finance, budgeting, strategic management? And here the survey was not about the person, but about the organization of the system of building the Ministry of Defense, and you all are Serdyukov, yes Serdyukov. I for what would be functional, was divided, and you for what would not. You have a reasonable argument like, if tomorrow is a war, we need a Minister of War, and I ask who he will be at the headquarters of the Supreme High Command. In addition, I believe that managers should be taught and trained. Why does the Pindos general often have a second education, or read Cheney’s biography with him and everything went well in Panama and it was normal with Iraq.
        1. oper66
          oper66 20 September 2011 14: 45 New
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          previously there were military quarter schools where they trained officers of the rear services who solved all issues in the military department and now the ministry is ruled by managers who have a vague or no idea about military affairs at the time when Stalin had generals in the development and conduct of the operation and he claimed the most rational, in agreement with the opinion of the majority of the generals like Hitler similarly, and who told you that the operations were successfully carried out in Vietnam and Iraq in history, the civilian department (MFA), considering global policy issues, posed before the military possible ways to solve them if the military scenario of events was inevitable the military developed and implemented these decisions. If a financial finder works in the Moscow Region, then he must first of all have a military education and a secondary specialization in finance and without this in any way, especially to the Minister of Defense
    3. oper66
      oper66 20 September 2011 12: 20 New
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      one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, he will go through many steps along the way to the post of minister and each one he will have to overcome; he will have to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect his homeland. That is, if the Minister is military, then, until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and will even be appointed to show and prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without the criteria for professional selection, which we observe
    4. oper66
      oper66 20 September 2011 12: 20 New
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      one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, he will go through many steps along the way to the post of minister and each one he will have to overcome; he will have to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect his homeland. That is, if the Minister is military, then, until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and will even be appointed to show and prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without the criteria for professional selection, which we observe
    5. oper66
      oper66 20 September 2011 12: 20 New
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      one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, he will go through many steps along the way to the post of minister and each one he will have to overcome; he will have to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect his homeland. That is, if the Minister is military, then, until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and will even be appointed to show and prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without the criteria for professional selection, which we observe
    6. oper66
      oper66 20 September 2011 12: 22 New
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      one can think of Serdyukov’s parish education, it’s not a diploma, but in relation to his country and the views of man. If he is a military man, he will go through many steps along the way to the post of minister and each one he will have to overcome; he will have to prove his ability to carry out more ambitious tasks to protect his homeland. That is, if the Minister is military, then, until he can be appointed to this post, he will go through a rigorous selection of such candidates from himself and a worthy one will take the chair and will even be appointed to show and prove his ability to manage the Defense Ministry, and any civilian can be appointed without the criteria for professional selection, which we observe
    7. AleksUkr 20 September 2011 16: 53 New
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      Do you take this as an example of our felmebel Taburetkin? He is an economist, and a lawyer, and a manager, even an excellent seller of furniture, and a relative ... But why, then, does the Army hate him from a cleaner to generals? Why does the country's population perceive all his statements negatively? Why does he behave lordly with people who give their health and life to strengthen the country's defense? Why does he hate all veterans - war, military service, defense industry veterans? Why, when he arrived with the president in Ulan-Ude, he made the commanders of the units wait for him from 18.00 p.m. to 0.20 a.m. and rode on again - "What, do you want to sleep?" Why did he surround himself with boys and girls, giving them comfortable working conditions, and put the officers into a corner? Why did he, sent to the army to carry out one task - to track financial flows, imagined himself a strategist and began restructuring in the army, destroying its combat effectiveness and combat readiness ? Even his accomplice Makarov stated that there was no and there was no scientific justification for ongoing reforms in the army. All the troubles of the army can be listed indefinitely. But from this, unfortunately, our military - political leadership will not become smarter. Successful managers decide everything. Serdyukov did not become a statesman. As he was a financier, he remained so. The Minister of Defense should possess the talents of a politician and at least get acquainted with elementary concepts and knowledge of army specifics. When presenting the Battle Banner of one of the units in Ulan-Ude, even the commentator noticed that Serdyukov took an improper place in the ranks and was forced to step aside with a displeased mine on his face. He is good at keeping the army in economy mode. Only our security only suffers from this.
      1. kagorta 20 September 2011 17: 39 New
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        Conduct a survey of whether Taburetkin needs to be fired on this forum, then even those who are in the minuses will say that it is definitely necessary. The result, I think, will be somewhere around 99,999 percent in favor. I repeat again, about the systematic approach. You will not argue that the best defense minister of the USSR is Ustinov, by the way he came from the people's commissars of armaments (he was not a military man). It was with him that the SA took a big step forward in armaments (but the economy of the country overcame this). By the fact that a man knew the defense industry from and to. And the ability to count and save money in the modern capitalist world is very important (already the United States is going to save on defense (or on attack)).
  3. Max79 20 September 2011 09: 00 New
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    Indeed, neither “for” nor “against" are acceptable to Serdyuk. This is a man in whose head, in my opinion, thoughts are spinning where to sleep ... to save and how to save ... to sleep. He is not a tactician and not even a theoretician. He stupidly submits to his "taburetkin" instinct. Such a person should by no means be at the head of our Moscow region. He would be like people like L. Rokhlin, G. Troshev.
    1. Vadivak 20 September 2011 09: 24 New
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      In a number of countries, women, or men who had nothing to do with the army, generally become defense ministers.

      And in a number of countries same-sex marriages are allowed, what now is equal in everything to them? The minister must be a man with solid experience in command and preferably in combat conditions, otherwise Mercedes and gilded bedroom sets will be adopted
      1. alebor 20 September 2011 15: 16 New
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        I remember a few years ago on TV they showed the plot as the Spanish Minister of Defense (it seems Karma Chacon was her name) - a pregnant woman with a huge belly received a report from some Spanish military in front of the troops built. The sight was worthy of Gaidai's comedy.
  4. Owl
    Owl 20 September 2011 09: 27 New
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    What is the "president" and "prime minister", such is the "minister of defense". This "team on the collapse and destruction of the country" is very close to achieving the task.
  5. stas 20 September 2011 09: 46 New
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    Russia is not a country that can have a non-professional defense minister.
    It is in Finland where nothing depends in the world on her own and her armed forces, can afford to have a purely political person in this post.
    Should a strategic bomber commander be a pilot? Or it’s enough just for the second pilot to be a pilot. The answer to this question is as they say without options.
    The commander in chief of Russia is a lawyer.
    Prime Minister, lawyer, KGB lieutenant colonel.
    Minister of Defense, Tax Law Specialist.
    And in case of military danger, these officials should make a decision. One NGS will not bring the whole cart of problems alone.
    How can Serdyukov even participate in negotiations on military issues with the same NATO, without being a professional?
    1. Banshee 20 September 2011 10: 21 New
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      Quote: stas
      It is in Finland where nothing depends in the world on her own and her armed forces, can afford to have a purely political person in this post.


      Undoubtedly. Moreover, in a country that is not going to take part in any conflicts. Here in countries such as Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, they just need DEFENSE, because they don’t need to attack anyone, to conduct offensive actions.
      About Russia this, alas, can not be said. Especially after 2008.

      The role of GSH and NGSH is also somehow allotted to the background, to be honest. Comfortable position, on the one hand, "I carried out the order of the Minister of Defense", yes, try not to fulfill, they will find another, who will fulfill. But still, the General Staff is not a bunch of cadets, after all, there must be people with both experience and understanding.

      It is unrealistic to require a civilian to understand precisely the STRATEGIC issues. But in this case, the GSH should stand behind his back, which will prepare everything and chew into dust. And the Ministry of Defense will have to look at the verdict with an important view.

      Personal opinion: the Minister of Defense may be a civilian. The question is, what kind of person is this? If such as Shoigu, for example, why not? It is unlikely that he was a specialist in work in an emergency. I remember when he was appointed, too, the people buhtel "behold, young, right now until the end it will ruin everything." Not ruined. Moreover, it seems to me how the Ministry of Emergency Situations works - not a single ministry works. Yes, the money tumbled nemeryannom, but who knows how much tumble into the other ministries? And how they are used there. Something the need for additional control in the MOE does not arise.

      And returning to the question of the topic ... Yes, a civilian may be the Minister of Defense. But Serdyukov is not the right person.

      Shoigu would clone ... so forbidden. It's a pity.
      1. dmb
        dmb 20 September 2011 10: 43 New
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        Your admiration for Shoigu is understandable. But this is if you do not know the whole background. Analyze the activities of this "heroic" department and its functions. I’m not talking about that insignificant part of it that really does the hard, dangerous and necessary work: rescuers, firefighters, doctors. And what does the rest of the horde of colonel generals led by the army general do?
        They “track” and show superiors on plasma screens how the forest burns or floods houses during a flood. And ordinary builders, doctors and foresters eliminate the consequences. I have often visited emergency situations. So, the main activity of the multi-staffed Emergencies Ministry chiefs was not organizing the liquidation of emergencies, others were doing this, but in reports to senior authorities on how others work and distributing interviews to the press. Is it not too expensive for the country to keep a bunch of people who check, do not decide anything and, by and large, do nothing.
        1. Banshee 20 September 2011 11: 03 New
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          Yes, such a story can be seen everywhere. This is understandable and is not subject to dispute, that some are given, while others are turning bags. It always has been. Red tape is eternal and indestructible. The whole question is in its scope.

          But I meant that the ministry works, and it works normally, oddly enough. And this is the merit of Shoigu. It seems to me that the “insignificant part” is still not the case. Judging by their area, last year, when everything was burning. There were a lot of people (I won’t say enough), but then the people had already risen.

          And four years ago, in the forest, near our camp there was a fire. We moved there, started digging. called firefighters. They arrived an hour later, when we had already ... smoked up.
          They arrived at the test: first they got lost, then when they saw the fire, they turned around and went to fetch water (they had a 200 on the counter). We say: leave the shovels to us. And they are not. Like this.
          And then, the further, the better. Now this will not meet. I just come across a forest fire every year. I know.
          1. Vyalik 20 September 2011 14: 38 New
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            Banshee
            What was the name of the machine that came to extinguish the fire for you on the back of each fire truck is the letters AC, AN, AL, PNS, AR, AGVT, Sh, etc. It’s just cars in which there is no water at all. And say what firefighters didn’t come without water. But the authorities in the Ministry of Emergencies needed to organize headquarters and any unnecessary activities, and most importantly, you couldn’t be forced to answer for someone’s failure. At least someone was responsible for the wrong extinguishing and death people? There’s always a switchman, but not from the headquarters. Believe me, it’s very bad when they are extinguishing fires, as we say, "non-extinguishers."
            I think the minister of defense should be a man: not indifferent to his country and army, it is better if he went from the lieutenant on and on, so that he understands what service is and how ordinary soldiers and officers serve. RUSSIA has many good, military generals. Unfortunately, many of the very worthy ones are no longer alive. Why are random people appointed to important posts, as they say "good managers", when you need to appoint good military specialists, it can not be explained at all.
            1. Banshee 20 September 2011 14: 44 New
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              Quote: Wyalik
              Simply, there are cars in which there is no provision for water at all.


              Killed on the spot.
              I do not remember the marking, I was somewhat busy with the extinguishing.
              And why send a call (we normally said that the forest is burning) a car in which
              Quote: Wyalik
              And to say that firefighters arrived without water is impossible.


              You can say so. Especially if they came without water. And without shovels. And the calculation consisted of two people. It was an exit "to back off."
              1. Vyalik 20 September 2011 14: 58 New
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                Banshee
                Of these machines I have listed, only cars with the AC marking have a water tank. Depending on the brand of the car and its quantity. According to the position table, each machine has one bayonet shovel and two or three "crackers". These are such big things that usually flies are beaten, but of a large size. Maybe a PSO (fire and security guard) machine came to you. A “sleeve car” could send you a call if there’s a reservoir somewhere nearby.
      2. LESHA pancake
        LESHA pancake 20 September 2011 17: 09 New
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        by no means a civilian. this one was brought to us from the west. let's put a drunk plumber at the helm of a Boeing we’ll get it, you yourself understand what.
        1. mitrich
          mitrich 20 September 2011 17: 17 New
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          LESHA pancake,
          Voroshilov, Bulganin, Ustinov were not professional military men, which did not prevent them from becoming at different times the head of the USSR Ministry of Defense.
          So it’s not yours that this tradition is a purely Western invention.
  6. pokermen
    pokermen 20 September 2011 09: 52 New
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    What can I say if Taburetkin has half of the deputies from the Federal Tax Service, and for the supply of weapons and special. funds are answered by the woman financier
  7. SAVA555.IVANOV
    SAVA555.IVANOV 20 September 2011 10: 18 New
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    I think DEFENSE MINISTER must first love their country and their people, to clearly understand WHO IS the eternal enemy of thy kindred and based on that ANY PERSON OUT OF WOULD for the post they should pursue one goal is defense of the state in spite of everything, as the president USA-WHO WHO WOULD NOT BECOME IT ALL TARGET FOR THE WHOLE WORLD AND INCLUDING RUSSIA BUT EVERYONE IN ITS OWN, ONLY THE MILITARY PERSON SHOULD BE LITTLE ONCE HAS BEEN CONSIDERED. MAKE INEQUATE DECISIONS. ALL FUTURE HIGHER STATES OF THE STATE SHOULD BE EDUCATED AND “WELCOME” FOR LIFE FORMING FORMING ITS CONSCIOUSNESS AND ENVIRONMENT, THEN FULL PERSONS AS SUCH AS WELL AS EXTREMELY EXTENSIVE. VERY LUCKY WITH PUTIN AND WITH SUCH A PERSON AT THE AUTHORITY IT IS POSSIBLE AND “FURNITURE” WHILE IF YOU HAVE ANYONE TO GET ANY OWNER, I HAVE THE SAME MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW WEAPONS!
  8. Siberian
    Siberian 20 September 2011 10: 39 New
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    Yes, there are no problems with civil defense. In Russia, Serdyukov is not the first. Remember the Army General I. Rodionov But he was "left" because he did not correctly understand the reforms of Baturin (lawyer and political scientist) and Kokoshin (military political scientist). Subsequently, there were options with normal civil defense. General Troshev G.N. instead of Moscow, they appointed the President’s adviser on Cossacks, and then they killed him altogether. We have many generals in reserve, even if they will be CIVIL DEFENSE MINISTERS.
    Quote: "For the head of the defense department, it is not necessary to know all the intricacies of military service and military affairs, for this the minister has a lot of deputies, advisers (specialists in his field) and the chief of the General Staff." You can agree here, but ... The NHS is a weak and weak-willed person, the rest seven:
    - Sukhorukov A.P. (1st deputy), a tanker by training, the whole service went to the KGB, from the 96th in financial institutions;
    - Pankov N.A. (State Secretary), pure KGB officer, manages personnel;
    - Antonov A.I. (deputy), personnel diplomat;
    - Army General Bulgakov D.V. (deputy), rear;
    - Chushkin D.A. (deputy), in civilian life - a tax specialist, is responsible for improving the efficiency of the management system, as well as for maintaining and developing the basis of the management system;
    - Shevtsova T.V. (deputy), tax specialist, deals with housing problems, pricing of military products;
    - Mokretsov M.P. (deputy), tax financier, financial support of the Armed Forces.
    Official information: http://structure.mil.ru/management/deputy.htm
    1. LESHA pancake
      LESHA pancake 20 September 2011 17: 06 New
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      shorter than seven nannies, have a baby
  9. zczczc
    zczczc 20 September 2011 12: 10 New
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    And why is there no “Yes” item without specifying “for Russia”?

    In fact - in theory it can be civil in peacetime, but he must know the army and its problems from the inside better than many military men, i.e. spend his whole life in the army. I think there are few such people, it is someone who has not passed through health, etc., but has worked in the army.

    Very much in theory, it may be a civilian far from the army, but then he should be a truly brilliant leader, seizing on the fly and a patriot at the same time. It is generally unknown whether there are any - all of the "ingenious" leaders in our country are infected one way or another ...

    In general, civil is a purely theoretical unlikely opportunity. We do not know such people.
  10. oper66
    oper66 20 September 2011 12: 24 New
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    I apologize for the repetition of the comment; the computer sagged if the administrator can delete the replays
  11. merkawa
    merkawa 20 September 2011 12: 29 New
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    It is not a matter of what kind of environment the Minister of Defense should be, but how he understands the work itself for the benefit of the state and the people and how he does this work so that defense is at its best. As long as this has not been seen for a long time of all the perestroika and other things verbiage invented from above. As for the current Minister of Defense, and not only him, they solve the tasks launched from above and they don’t care about all the requests of their own ministries and departments, just to stay in the chair and at the feeding trough fellow
    1. stas 20 September 2011 12: 56 New
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      More than I’m sure, a professional, who has let down the task, will solve it correctly, competently and with benefit, in any case, than any manager who can do such a foolish zeal that it will take a very long and painful time to understand.
  12. Sanzyro
    Sanzyro 20 September 2011 12: 53 New
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    No, why ... Let it be a cesspool worker! The furniture maker steers! The experiments are ongoing! And the Minister of Defense - a former couturier and preferably with a non-traditional secular orientation - is generally a powerful thing !!! wink
  13. Sergh
    Sergh 20 September 2011 14: 39 New
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    Well, at the time of komenty, approve! In the hole! Vadivak, Stas-well done! Even in the winter on other sites I said: "Serdyuk should sit until the 12th Minister until April XNUMXth ..."
    Yes, right, as in life, if I say a programmer, but I want to become the head of sewing production; I grew flowers, I want to be the director of pipe production. Russia is not the case where the equality of Finns, Belgium, the Netherlands, such positions can be traded. The Ministry of Defense, this is in Russia with its territory of three and a half (with a hook) of America, this is not shaking-lyasim.
    Well, closer to the topic: 08, everyone remembers. The ministry’s building is undergoing major renovations of rooms, all cabinets are on suitcases. S Yu.O. It’s impossible to get through. A little watchman (figuratively) takes a call, i.e. communication is broken. The actions of the Moscow Region are spantaneous, I'm afraid to say unpredictable. Redundant communication points are not provided. In short, simply an emergency.
    In short, the civilian carpenter in Russia can’t plan ahead, predict, know the immediate situation, military, army tactics and other gadgets with the ensuing ... Why don’t we have good real warriors, honest, gunpowder in battles ... But then on the situation, you see, will be better!
  14. boval 20 September 2011 15: 03 New
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    The final decision on the adoption of new types of weapons and equipment for weapons is made by the Minister of Defense. If a person who cannot, roughly speaking, distinguish a machine gun from an assault rifle, how can he decide on new types of weapons. Hence it follows that our military industrial complex is in one place, while we buy weapons behind the knoll. Take for example the contract with Iveco. Or planned transition to berets instead of kepi.
  15. gans
    gans 20 September 2011 15: 24 New
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    if you don’t care whom to be minister, then you need to choose him from circus clowns, it will be more fun for soldiers
    1. AleksUkr 20 September 2011 17: 07 New
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      And the fun of the service will not be a hindrance.
  16. Asmoday 20 September 2011 16: 35 New
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    I believe that the MAIN quality of the Minister of Defense and any ruler of Russia should be:
    1. Patriotism
    2. Love for Mother Russia
    3. The roots in the army, only a man who has grown up in a military environment will be able to understand all the intricacies of army life.
    4. Pass the Army School of Life, and at that without wiping the cabinets at the headquarters, but in the "fields" where he, along with soldiers, passes an obstacle course.
    5. As the Voivode the Father was called in Russia before ... this is how the Minister should take care of almost everyone in his submission.
    1. mitrich
      mitrich 20 September 2011 17: 01 New
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      Asmoday,
      and he should have a beard and bast shoes wink ... Mother Russia, governor-father ... Directly a character of Russian folklore!
      First of all, he should have a head on his shoulders, because the presence of a cap on it does not guarantee the army of an ideal minister.
      1. Asmoday 20 September 2011 17: 39 New
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        head by itself. for the past 20 years we have had enough of headless power ... we can observe the results ourselves ....
  17. atheist
    atheist 20 September 2011 17: 50 New
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    for the defense ministry must military
    for the Ministry of Health and Social Development, a doctor and so on
    and the president should know everything a little from this, and not just dance and ride bikes
  18. mitrich
    mitrich 20 September 2011 18: 04 New
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    Why do cops go on patrol in three?
    Because one can read.
    The second is able to write.
    And the third pretends that he can do both.
    1. Sanzyro
      Sanzyro 20 September 2011 23: 49 New
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      And the mounted police? This is what happens - one head is good, and two is better? wink
      1. SAVA555.IVANOV
        SAVA555.IVANOV 20 September 2011 23: 54 New
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        ZADORNOV RELAXES !! wink
    2. Sanzyro
      Sanzyro 20 September 2011 23: 50 New
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      And the mounted police? This is what happens - one head is good, and two is better? wink
    3. Sanzyro
      Sanzyro 20 September 2011 23: 50 New
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      And the mounted police? This is what happens - one head is good, and two is better? wink
  19. almost demobil 20 September 2011 18: 34 New
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    MO should definitely be a general, such a normal general with a head, knowledge of army life, a professional, most likely a combined arms (with the mandatory presence of commander-in-chief), with combat experience and with progressive views on the use of the VS. It is very important to choose a team, even boys and girls , with the brains of narrowly focused specialists. Here then the T90 will be a modern tank, the peduks will not develop uniforms for the military, the troops will be engaged in PSUs and the cleaners will clean the soldiers' outhouses. And the MO should correctly manage and direct all this. Where can a teacher, a medic, lawyer and so on?
  20. ZEBRASH
    ZEBRASH 20 September 2011 18: 44 New
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    The military should be at least somehow. And preferably in turn: airborne forces, admiral, general of tank forces, etc. smile So that each develops in turn their own areas, but not to the detriment of others. If he comes from the same kind of troops, then he will sympathize with his own.
    1. vlbelugin 20 September 2011 20: 53 New
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      Only a combined arms general. Others NOW!
      1. Sanzyro
        Sanzyro 20 September 2011 23: 52 New
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        Do not crawl! In the narrow corridors of power-not to crawl ... winked
  21. Esso 20 September 2011 19: 35 New
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    In my opinion, it’s better to appoint Shamanov the Commander of the Airborne Forces as the Minister of Defense. This is a real man. An educated military man. How can he spin and don’t think that his wards will get new weapons. He’s constantly introducing something new. A man would be dedicated to his work. excellent defense minister. But Putin makes his buddies and friends everywhere!
  22. baykal79
    baykal79 21 September 2011 03: 14 New
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    to restore Russia as an independent force on the planet, the head of the defense department should be a military specialist who has come a long way from a lieutenant to a general, with military experience and a good track record. Only such a person will be authoritative for the army and dangerous for potential aggressors.


    I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT !!! AND ONLY SO AND NOT OTHERWISE !!!!
  23. 320423 21 September 2011 11: 14 New
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    about Shoigu, this year I watched the news the first video about the teachings of the Ministry of Emergency Situations to extinguish forest fires: helicopters, airplanes involved equipment. Immediately after him, a video about a forest fire somewhere in Siberia shows ice with satchels and shovels. Well, who after this shoigu ??????
    1. neziz
      neziz 30 September 2011 15: 52 New
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      More about the fires: in August a week near Elektrogorsk they extinguished helicopters Ka-26, one Be-200 and about 30 pozh. cars. And the peat kept burning until it began to rain for two days (half a month) and put out everything. But the shoigu left the builders and apparently had a fireman specialty in military training at the institute.
  24. Al2504
    Al2504 21 September 2011 11: 52 New
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    IVASHOV
    Leonid Grigorievich

    Colonel-General, Head of the Main Directorate of International Military Cooperation of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (1996–2000), Chairman of the Russian Military-Power Union, Vice-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor.

    This man, although he is now in reserve, can and should take the post of Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. Or in the near future Russia will not have an army, and as a consequence of this, and Russia itself.
    1. neziz
      neziz 30 September 2011 15: 44 New
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      Ivashov did not serve from and to. He was an adjutant with Ustinov, possibly in international cooperation. Those. rather, it’s a parquet colonel general.
  25. miland 21 September 2011 12: 02 New
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    I believe that all leadership positions, both the country as a whole and its individual enterprises and ministries, should be held only by people who have worked in this area for a sufficient period of time, have sufficient work experience and the most important thing about these people can really be said that they are professionals in their field. Today, most ministries employ people who do not have specific experience in the field in which they work. This definitely contributes to the collapse of the country.
  26. lightforcer
    lightforcer 1 November 2011 14: 02 New
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    Of course, he must be a military man, but he must also have an additional economic education. But it’s extra!
  27. Stasi.
    Stasi. 7 March 2012 20: 54 New
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    As the saying goes, the trouble is if the shoemaker starts to bake the pies, and the boots go on the cake. There must be professionals in any business! And the Minister of Defense should be a military man who has gone through all levels from lieutenant to army general, with a higher military education. A civilian defense minister like Serdyukov is absolutely incapable of controlling the armed forces and making strategic decisions.
  28. Sergik527
    Sergik527 31 July 2012 18: 09 New
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    In the country there is a commander in chief, therefore he is not unmissable to be a military man. That would not need to steal epaulets.