The army demands to remove Serdyukov! September 18 - All-Russian action and the adoption of an appeal to the President.

The army demands to remove Serdyukov! September 18 - All-Russian action and the adoption of an appeal to the President.

Dear friends!


September 18 starts All-Russian action "Army against Serdyukov." In Moscow, the rally will begin in 13-00 on Pushkin Square, also promise to support us in Murmansk, Severodvinsk, Samara, Stavropol, Arkhangelsk and other cities of the country.

We tolerated for a long time, listened to the promises of the Ministry of Defense, wrote unanswered letters, deputy requests, but we were not heard. Many of the officers whose rights we defend served in the Soviet army, many are waiting for their housing according to the law for 10-20 years, some of them have no housing at all, for many years they live with families where they spend their nights at work. Meanwhile, the Minister of Defense, as if nothing had happened, reports to the President that the process of providing soldiers with apartments is in full swing, and by the end of 2012-year it will be completed.

This can no longer continue! Three and a half months have passed since the Public Council for the Protection of the Rights of Servicemen held its first action. For three months we heard one thing: "Wait! Everything will be!" But we understand that we have to wait exactly before the elections. Wait to make sure once again that there will be nothing! And we will not wait!

Once again I ask all those who are not indifferent to the fate of our army to inform as many people as possible about the action and by all means come themselves. We need to show that we are not a handful of disgruntled grumblers, but a real civil society to be reckoned with!

At the rally, we will make an appeal to the President. Below I publish its text. I ask everyone who is with us to extend this appeal as much as possible, and also to sign in his support! Signatures (name, profession or social status, region) leave in the comments to this post, moderators will gradually add you to the list.


Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
Comrade Supreme Commander!


Those who are not indifferent to the further fate of the country's army appeal to you! Today, we all understand that our army is in a critical condition, and how soon it will come out of it and whether it will come out at all, our future directly depends. Our meeting is a reaction of the army to the inability of the Minister of Defense and his team to cope with their duties. We are convinced that the continued presence of Mr. A. Serdyukov at such a responsible post is not only inexpedient, but also extremely dangerous.

We have to admit that the large-scale reform that began in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in accordance with the “Strategy for the social development of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for the period up to 2020”, is in a deadlock. None of the goals of military reform: to improve the quality of social development of the Armed Forces to the level of the five best armies in the world, to strengthen the country's defense capability, to make military service prestigious - not achieved.

Recently, a huge amount of housing for retired military personnel in various regions of the Russian Federation has really been built. But, alas, only a small percentage of apartments out of these tens of thousands are actually inhabited, and not “on paper”. The main reason for this is corruption and bureaucracy! Officials of the Ministry of Defense cannot agree among themselves; there is no interaction at the proper level with local administrations - they have been idle for years at home. Serious problems are also the absence of a legal queue for the provision of housing, the imperfection of the legal framework governing housing legal relations in the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation. The housing system for military personnel created over many years was destroyed, and the initially corrupt and extremely incompetent structures — the Department of Housing Services and the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation — were established.

Serious problems and our defense industry. The defensive order is not carried out from year to year. This is recognized by the leadership of the country. But not military officials are blamed for this, but scientists and designers. Military science is at an impasse - not enough money for it. We do not have modern weaponsand we still hope that we are a great nuclear power. Meanwhile, the level of our defenses has plummeted. Military retirees, many of whom are veterans of military service, are in distress. Since January 1, 2012 for servicemen of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is planned in connection with the adoption of the Federal Law “On the remuneration of servicemen and providing them with separate payments”, to introduce a reduction factor for the pension accrual base in the amount of 0,54 (54% of the salary for the military and special positions , salary for military and special rank and percentage premium for long service) and keep the existing procedure for determining the amount of pension, but from a reduced base of pension accrual - 50% for 20 years of service and 3% for each year of service 20 years, but not more than 85%.

These bills show a discriminatory approach to military retirees and persons equated to them. We believe that when discussing the aforementioned bills, the deputies should have made an amendment, according to which, when retiring military servicemen, war invalids and other categories of people affected for public interests, pension payments are not 54, but 100% of the assigned pension.

In addition, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not take comprehensive measures to solve the problems of deceived co-investors. By the most conservative estimates, there are more than a thousand families of deceived real estate investors through the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. People are forced to go on unauthorized actions to attract the attention of the country's leadership to their problem.

We see that a radical restructuring of the organizational system of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, a dramatic reduction in the number of personnel of the army and fleet, parts and compounds are carried out without scientific justification and serious expert evaluation. As a result, hundreds of thousands of officers, warrant officers and midshipmen and members of their families are subjected to social repression, deprived of the opportunity to continue their service and thrown out into the streets, replenishing millions of unemployed and destitute.

The economic base of defense has been practically destroyed, the mobilization system and defense management structures of the country are missing, the defense industry complex has lost its systemic ability to provide the army with modern weapons and military equipment, and the spiritual and moral basis of the military profession has been undermined. In the long run, this may lead to a decrease in combat effectiveness below a critical level and even to the threat of losing Russia's sovereignty.

Comrade Supreme Commander! Based on the foregoing, we, the military personnel, citizens discharged from military service to the reserve, family members, civilian personnel of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, demand:

1) Immediate resignation of the current Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Anatoly Serdyukov and his team, in connection with a complete official inconsistency, as well as bringing him to criminal liability for damage caused to the state.
2) Adopt the law “On Parliamentary Control” and “On the Security Council”, in which to define the criteria for the formation of this Council, and to prescribe the responsibility of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation for his decisions.
3) In the shortest possible time to eliminate gross violations of housing legislation in the field of housing. This applies to the provision of official living space to persons serving in the military service under the contract, as well as providing living quarters for permanent residence to those who are subject to dismissal or have already been discharged or retired and have the right to permanent housing.
4) Repeal the amendment to the Law “On the Status of Military Personnel” article 15.1, introduced by the Federal Law No. 342-ФЗ from 08.12.2010, concerning changes in the norm of the total living space as violating the requirements of the Constitution and the rights of citizens of the Russian Federation.
5) to the General Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation and the Accounting Chamber of the Russian Federation to conduct a thorough check on how budget funds were spent for the construction (purchase) of housing for military personnel, how many apartments were built (purchased), how it was paid and at what price for the entire reporting period, including the “15 + 15.
6) Stop the collapse of the defense industry, military education and military science.
7) Revise the draft law “On the monetary allowance of military personnel and the provision of separate payments to them” and make changes in the coefficient for the pension accrual base, which do not infringe the rights of military retirees and persons equal to them.
8) Determine the shortest time to restore the construction work of paid co-investors' apartments through the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and also consider the issue of providing them with alternative housing.

Public Council for the Protection of the Legal Rights of Military Personnel
The Initiative Group Forum for the mutual legal assistance of military personnel
Union of Navy Sailors
Cheated interest holders through the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. zczczc
    zczczc 17 September 2011 14: 42 New
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    It is interesting, of course, to invite people to come in 1,5 hours after the start ...
    1. Matroskin 17 September 2011 14: 48 New
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      today is the 17th, what is 1,5 hours?
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 17 September 2011 15: 53 New
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        Oh damn, the date on the computer was not that!
        Thank you!
    2. Vadivak 18 September 2011 00: 08 New
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      I like the headline - the Army demands to remove Serdyukov! Especially clean, does it itself require something? Do special forces have something?
      1. NIKOLAI T 18 September 2011 15: 40 New
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        It clearly and clearly says what the Supreme Commander demands.
  2. pokermen
    pokermen 17 September 2011 15: 06 New
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    Here are naive Taburetkin-son-in-law of Zubkov who will take him off
    1. svvaulsh
      svvaulsh 19 September 2011 13: 20 New
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      ....... who will plant him! ?? He is a monument !!!(Gentlemen of Fortune, dir. Gaidai)
  3. matolyan
    matolyan 17 September 2011 15: 28 New
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    The army has been gone for a long time !!!!! Of course, we ourselves are to blame for this, first of all those who, by the bones of others, the bones of honest officers, by the bones of their destinies, REMAINED in the army a new look. And now these "officers" want the truth !!!! "Gentlemen" for which they fought, they ran into something.
    1. AleksUkr 17 September 2011 16: 38 New
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      Most of those remaining in the army hoped for a new look, at least somehow helping to preserve what was achieved during the years of the USSR and has not yet been destroyed. Blaspheming such officers is unacceptable. The army is not Serdyukov with the company. The Army is all of us - the current military personnel, Veterans of the Armed Forces, war veterans, war veterans and just all the citizens of Russia who are not indifferent to the fate of the Army, the fate of the country.
  4. aleks 17 September 2011 15: 38 New
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    As with a goose, water will sweat on.
  5. ZEBRASH
    ZEBRASH 17 September 2011 15: 53 New
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    I hope the president will at least somehow react to this appeal
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 17 September 2011 15: 56 New
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      ZEBRASH, which the? He will instruct Serdyukov to speed up the work, and the administration and the police to stop the discontent.
    2. AleksUkr 17 September 2011 16: 42 New
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      I don’t believe that he will take it and react. They all go in one bow. I give an Internet lover, it seems. So he really doesn’t read indignant reviews about the reforms in the army, doesn’t he see how he is being deceived during all kinds of exercises, trainings etc. Maybe he himself is the same guardian for the army, for the people, for the security of Russia, Ka and the felmebel Taburetkin.
      1. Uhalus 17 September 2011 23: 10 New
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        Yes, he sees everything, he knows everything. He’s just like that, he supports this field-maker.
        Here it is no longer necessary to act with demonstrations.
    3. Toroptsev
      Toroptsev 17 September 2011 18: 21 New
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      Guys, is it really not clear that the president, prime minister and others from the same gang ...
      1. indrik
        indrik 18 September 2011 09: 26 New
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        the current president, a fool, will be rubbing about litigation and other legal crap. He knows about the army only from the movies and even from the American. Such power can not be achieved with anything other than a real threat of a coup.
        1. Oleg
          Oleg 18 September 2011 17: 15 New
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          I'm afraid not from the American, but from my own: the series "SOLDIERS"
          Remember, there was such shit that in the minds not connected with the army sowed the seed of neglect of the warriors.
  6. Motherland
    Motherland 17 September 2011 15: 53 New
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    In any case, it would be better for this g * ndon to be removed from office and better shot
  7. Russian officer
    Russian officer 17 September 2011 16: 06 New
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    My friends! Enough for you already. Go and help them! Well, in the end, you have to start somewhere. Water sharpens a stone. Silence certainly will not bring the desired result. Here is Zubkov’s son-in-law. Yes, and to hell with him. Let him know that he is a bastard. And the tandem scum. Today you have in Moscow. Tomorrow in Novosib. The day after tomorrow in Khabar. But the wave should ride. Go! We’ll go to our place too.
    1. AleksUkr 17 September 2011 16: 48 New
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      I believe that it is not worth emphasizing that it is a Russian officer. We are all the older ones - officers of the Soviet Union, the Soviet Army, and the current generation - Officers of Russia, the Russian Army. And do not be shy, and even more so afraid. This is what we need.
      1. Vyalik 18 September 2011 15: 30 New
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        And if the rank-and-file or sergeants, or sailors, then they are not people. Your mother, you nevermind. We also served in the Army and we also have a sore soul. And then we are wondering if the veteran is not lower than the major, but the rank and file so, bring, give, went to FIG do not bother.
  8. Banshee 17 September 2011 16: 11 New
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    I support. With something to start.
  9. Motherland
    Motherland 17 September 2011 16: 13 New
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    Here you go, about 500 out of 2000 people (for example), and that you will be shown on the news and all will be left at their best as is at worst will be deprived of everything. Now our voice is only on the Internet, but they also want to take it under control now and I certainly would like to help you but unfortunately my maximum is moral support ... Of course, don’t sit idle and many revolutions fail because of disorganization, first you need to find the right person in his place before going to rebel for the removal of one or another rank, etc. they will put another one and there will be no difference anyway everything from the tandem
  10. ZEBRASH
    ZEBRASH 17 September 2011 16: 23 New
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    It was also necessary to “remind” the president about the non-enforcement of the court decision by Serdyukov in the case of the dismissed Biron
  11. strelok-07
    strelok-07 17 September 2011 16: 25 New
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    If I had not read this article, I would not have known about this rally. I'm all for it. If I find out where it will be held in Kaliningrad, I will definitely go.
  12. r.anoshkin
    r.anoshkin 17 September 2011 17: 08 New
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    Whoever judges whom, this raven will never peck anything to each other, otherwise we would have lived in a civilized country for a long time, and we have not been lucky with the ministers of our Army for a long time, starting with a Mercedes Pasha, whose bloody conscience has thousands of young lives laid down in winter 1994-1995 in Chechnya, when he threw the TEAM battalions (there were already no manned and combat units in the ground forces) from unshooted and untrained boys to hell, who really should sit at least for life, And Ivanov-sleek? for collapse, he would have to put up a monument in every city in America or China, so the last freak is just a continuation of the logical chain,
    1. Foamas 17 September 2011 18: 13 New
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      The combat-ready and well-trained units of the ground forces in 1994-95. - WERE. (if you do not know, do not state).
      1. r.anoshkin
        r.anoshkin 17 September 2011 18: 58 New
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        Then WHY? Why all over Russia manned prefabricated units with an order from each regiment, so many soldiers?
        1. Foamas 17 September 2011 19: 53 New
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          Our regiment was fully equipped with its own personnel (only a dozen people were beaten in sergeant posts in communications, and even then from a neighboring regiment behind the fence). Conscripted servicemen, less than 9 months from the period of conscription, were not. Arrived in Mozdok on 17.12.94/XNUMX/XNUMX. The regiment was exactly the whole, with artillery battalion, reconnaissance, RMO, communications company + separate tank battalion, also of our garrison.
  13. akutischev
    akutischev 17 September 2011 17: 18 New
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    I support!
  14. gAMauzer
    gAMauzer 17 September 2011 17: 28 New
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    "BEHIND"

    Tokmakov Mikhail Vladimirovich, born in 1992, the city of Novokuznetsk, Kemerovo region.
    Student of the West Federal District History Department of KuzGPA. Occupation: janitor.
    Active service in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces did not pass.
  15. Evil Tatar
    Evil Tatar 17 September 2011 17: 29 New
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    I think that the content of the letter is decent, but there is no spiritual impulse, or something ... It was said correctly earlier: - where are the names of the worthy?
    We must go to the rally ... But we must go not with a request, a complaint, but a demand to shift such and such to such and such (the one whom the officers, soldiers, sailors and other Russian citizens believe in reserve), but with the candidate (s) there should be a sensible strategic, economic program of action for the revival of the Russian Army, which we must send to the President and the Prime Minister along with this appeal ... If they don’t call after that, at least they can take advantage of the work that has been adequately done ...
  16. Chipulia
    Chipulia 17 September 2011 17: 40 New
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    Suchkoa Sergey Valentinovich, b. 1961 Togliatti, Samara region, military pensioner. Serdyukova in court.
  17. Sorry 17 September 2011 17: 54 New
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    Gorodetsky Boris Alexandrovich. Retired officer. Sverdlovsk region.
    I support everything and subscribe to the appeal. I think that it would be necessary:
    1. To sharpen external threats to Russia along the entire perimeter of our borders. 2. To exclude from the treatment the wording of those equated with military personnel. There are so many of them divorced now that there are not enough funds for the army. 3.Tell about the form of clothing. Almost all civil servants wear uniform with officer insignia, although they have no relation to the officer corps. And this infringes on the status of military personnel.
  18. ICT
    ICT 17 September 2011 17: 58 New
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    THE ARMY ENDED THE 9 OF MAY 2011 OF THE YEAR (AND INTERESTING WHICH OF TWO SITES SEATED NEAR THE PARADE DURING THE WALKING WALK OF THE TROOPS WILL REMOVE IT)
    1. Oleg
      Oleg 18 September 2011 17: 20 New
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      You're right! Seated velvet men hosting the Parade - this was the height of disrespect for both servicemen and Russia in the long run.
  19. nickname bj
    nickname bj 17 September 2011 18: 13 New
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    So there will be a "Petrov".
  20. ZEBRASH
    ZEBRASH 17 September 2011 18: 34 New
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    Also chtoli subscribe? smile
    Sorokin Alexey Alekseevich, ninth-grader, Izhevsk
  21. stas 17 September 2011 18: 39 New
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    The Union of Paratroopers declared the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov “not shook hands” and demanded his resignation.
    This is stated in the statement of the union, posted on the organization’s website, k2kapital.com reports.

    “We declare Minister of Defense Serdyukov“ not a handshake ”and demand that the president remove him from office.”

    The paratroopers believe that Minister Serdyukov acts on the basis of selfish interests, which poses a threat to the state. "By creating the appearance of a safe state of the army, masking its mistakes and selfish goals under the transformation, Serdyukov and his proteges created a direct threat to the security of the state."
  22. lemtamk
    lemtamk 17 September 2011 18: 40 New
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    For the dismissal of Taburetkin !!! Let him even the son-in-law of the bald!

    Guard Lieutenant Colonel Reserve Lemeshko Andrey Vladimirovich, Siberian Military District
  23. Captain
    Captain 17 September 2011 19: 01 New
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    For
    And Makarov there too. . Tired of by golly!
  24. rawiljon
    rawiljon 17 September 2011 19: 03 New
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    For dismissal and for instituting criminal proceedings for treason! Although who will fire him-the Commander-in-Chief, who takes the Victory Parade, or the prime extreme, who cares more about tigers and whales than the people and the Army? They do not need professionals, but "effective managers" who can sell everything that falls within their hands. A rhetorical question arises - who benefits?
  25. AleksUkr 17 September 2011 19: 08 New
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    Serdyukov Dismiss and put on trial.
    Retired Lieutenant Colonel Alexander B. Baranov, b. 1950 Senior citizen of MO, Buryatia
  26. Volkhov
    Volkhov 17 September 2011 19: 46 New
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    The country's leadership has more information - they serve the evacuation transit and gather themselves, and the army requires more apartments in the flooded areas, money, not giving shoulder straps to civilians, fastening borders on the seabed ... A nurse will come to deliver promises ...
  27. fantast 17 September 2011 19: 51 New
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    In Moscow, permission to hold a rally seems to have:
    http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/1109/f0/b128b751b7b1.jpg
  28. fantast 17 September 2011 19: 52 New
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    In Moscow, permission to hold a rally seems to have:
  29. Fantom75100
    Fantom75100 17 September 2011 20: 52 New
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    "For" Tatyannikov Vyacheslav Nikolaevich. Military unit 3745 "BRON" 94-95gg, privates, n / a BMP-1.
  30. senya
    senya 17 September 2011 21: 03 New
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    And you all look komenty bold koment .... he praises the restructuring of the army ... and stools .... here's the answer .... the right way is .... stool
  31. 916-th
    916-th 17 September 2011 21: 19 New
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    I subscribe to the appeal, although I live in Kazakhstan. Because I clearly understand the inextricable link between the two countries and peoples - Russia and Kazakhstan.

    Vasilenko Stanislav Vasilievich, 1950 D.O.
    Senior Lieutenant of the reserve.

    PS It would be worth adding a warning to the appeal that the reaction of the President and / or the Prime Minister to this appeal will be regarded as an unambiguous sign of who the authorities are with the people and their army or with corrupt bloodsuckers.
  32. kazanskii
    kazanskii 17 September 2011 21: 32 New
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    Rozhkov Alexander Viktorovich, born in 1960 CA employee in DRA, Kandahar 86-88gg. Completely FOR! A person can be called a criminal only by a court decision, but if in fairness, then Serdyukov is essentially a state criminal! And he must bear the punishment as a government official who, through his actions, caused very serious damage to the security of our country!
  33. Nikel
    Nikel 17 September 2011 21: 59 New
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    Lived ... It is necessary to bring the country like that ... Enemies of the people! No matter how you call them.
  34. smir193
    smir193 17 September 2011 22: 37 New
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    Support.
    Smirnov Andrei Valentinovich, b. 1969, reserve colonel, Rostov-on-Don.
  35. Announcement
    Announcement 17 September 2011 22: 41 New
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    BEHIND!
    Kasatkin Anton Aleksandrovich, 1988 year of birth, Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk region
    occupation: seller
  36. Uhalus 17 September 2011 23: 06 New
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    Yes it ... It is necessary to judge! Open trial! And hang in public! Traditionally, by the neck. He is a traitor! And it doesn’t matter if he was not an agent of influence or was not recruited. Enough of his activity as such!
    What would you do with him that way 60 - 70 years ago, huh? Big bosses were then shot for less.
    The bad news is that our Biggest Official will not give it up - it was he who put it. In the best case, he will make either himself or the new Minister of Defense, another puppet or a tradesman as a deputy. : (((((((((((((((((((((((((((
    1. PSih2097 17 September 2011 23: 57 New
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      From ancient times, traitors were imprisoned or quartered ...
      1. Banshee 18 September 2011 06: 43 New
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        By the way, it is not necessary to hang up by the neck ... There are options for more painful.
  37. Rodover
    Rodover 17 September 2011 23: 44 New
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    I am for. He was a reserve sergeant. 1968. He served in the Far Eastern Air Force in 86-88.
  38. panzersoldat
    panzersoldat 17 September 2011 23: 50 New
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    I, too, For, although not Russian. (Student 10th grade and DOSAAF), I hope that the future tanker.
    By the way, (I just don’t know) Did he even serve in the army?
  39. PSih2097 17 September 2011 23: 55 New
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    Send the Airborne Forces in full gear, then not only the stool, will dump all the power ...
    1. asavchenko59
      asavchenko59 18 September 2011 06: 36 New
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      Our warriors are not capable of this. Now, if you drink vodka, beg the apartment and the president to complain about and without, yes it can! (how not offensive to be aware of this)
      1. Banshee 18 September 2011 06: 48 New
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        Is this your personal opinion? Or can you justify?
  40. stas 18 September 2011 00: 29 New
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    GDP understands that Serdyukov is a worthless and temporary figure, but he does not need others, and this is the whole essence of the power strategy of GDP. So that no one accidentally overshadows him at the political Olympus of Russia.
    Look at our government, which of them are professionals in their field. The Minister of Defense is a furniture seller, the Minister of Agriculture is a doctor, the Minister of Health is not a doctor, and what do you want to have as a result.
    Until the GDP is removed from power, we are guaranteed a miserable existence.
    The whole reason is in GDP.
    1. PSih2097 18 September 2011 00: 39 New
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      Serdyuk son-in-law of the Minister of Agriculture ...
      1. Banshee 20 September 2011 00: 17 New
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        Sorry, s / x - this is what it is? Does it already / is it still, or is it only the minister?
  41. Anatoly
    Anatoly 18 September 2011 00: 53 New
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    Of course, they won’t take anyone off, and it’s possible only for the species to find the next switchman ... but the point of noting the problem is important, so as not to remain silent again. Do not be content with just a cursory comment.
    Turned the bastard Army into a kindergarten and continues to destroy it!
    I fully subscribe to the appeal! Down with Serdyukov !!!!!
    (sergeant-contractor 2000-2003. Nizhny Novgorod, Sormovskaya division, communications battalion)
  42. KuigoroZHIK 18 September 2011 03: 05 New
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    BEHIND!
    Suchkov Alexander Gennadievich, engineer of microelectronic technology. Hero City Sevastopol.
  43. Ramses_IV 18 September 2011 04: 36 New
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    Although I am a civilian, I also want to speak out about Serdyukov. We have in Primorye in with. Vozdvizhenka was a long-range aviation regiment and anti-aircraft forces, which were armed with far from the old Tu-22M3. It was thanks to Serdyukov, who said that he was not needed there and these planes are old, now this regiment does not exist, and 17 TU-22M3 abandoned and understaffed remained in the parking lots. Who does not know - Google to help. I’m not an expert in this, but for example, Americans have been using their B-52 for forty years, not counting that this is old. The second - Serdyukov somehow blurted out that the aerobatic teams Swifts and Russian Knights also need to be reduced, because "they are too expensive." For this alone it is not enough to remove it, it needs to be put to the wall. I bet that his salary is higher than the costs of these aerobatic teams. I join you, dear - merchandiser (or who he is there) does not belong in the leadership of Moscow Region. This is complete insanity, how was he appointed there at all?!?
  44. may.gur
    may.gur 18 September 2011 05: 27 New
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    I will never forgive this “specialist” for the collapse of our 67th brigade. (GRU special forces). But it was one of the most combat-ready units of the Armed Forces. I can’t call it another DIVERSION aimed at undermining the country's defense capabilities. By the way, it’s also 12 brigade. As long as the army is ruled by economists, professionals are not needed. The action is useful but it is unlikely that they will hear us. BABLO crossed out the notion of honor among those above ...
  45. asavchenko59
    asavchenko59 18 September 2011 06: 32 New
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    They drained the country, and now they are complaining to the main destroyers! Nonsense!
    1. Banshee 18 September 2011 06: 55 New
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      Again the common phrase in the style of excision. You, if anything, this country were sifting along with everyone else (unless of course you are painting from the states).

      And I did not see any complaints in the appeal. There were requirements. Try to feel the difference, if that. To do this, turn on the thought (brain) and read not through the word.

      And in general, in your opinion, what should I do? What options?

      Complain to Obama? Complain to the UN? Require apartments and equipment from the Communists 70-80 of the last century? Or even shove tongues deeper and silent?

      It may also be demanded from the main destroyer, who, oddly enough, according to the Constitution is responsible for the army. Commander in Chief.

      And in general, if there is nothing to say, then it is better to keep silent. More chances for a smart pass.
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 18 September 2011 15: 01 New
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        Banshee, no, well, formally he is right - you can see that it is as if the people are complaining to the heirs of precisely that power, which was ruining the Union. But really no one complains to them, because there is no point - people are just talking.
        1. Banshee 20 September 2011 00: 21 New
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          Very formal. And if you look legally, then everything is correct.
          In fact, in the style of the above participants, the same tandem in voice can say: “And we didn’t ruin anything! This is Gorbachev and Yeltsin! The heir, the successor is aspects. The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces is another story, whatever you say. And already do not care, he is the heir there or anyone else.
          For today's period of time he is responsible.
  46. 916-th
    916-th 18 September 2011 07: 13 New
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    For your information:

    Information taken from the site "RUSSIAN NEWSPAPER", dated 24.09.2007
    Link: http://www.rg.ru/2007/09/24/serdukov-anons.html

    “Anatoly Serdyukov retained the post of Minister of Defense. Recall that last week he resigned due to family ties with Prime Minister Viktor Zubkov, who is his son-in-law.

    Earlier, by appointing Serdyukov as defense minister, President Putin sought a specific goal - tight control over the distribution of financial flows in the military. Serdyukov began to carry out this task, but over the past months from mid-February, it has not been fully resolved, successful, but only the first steps have been taken. Therefore, last week, RG did not rule out that the resignation of the Minister of Defense would not be accepted.

    In one of his first interview with RG Anatoly Serdyukov said that "today, when significant funds began to flow into the Ministry of Defense, there was a need to increase the effectiveness of the financial and economic services of the military department - so that not a single ruble was wasted and even less was lost for the army."

    "We need to change our approaches to spending planning, reporting system and tighten control. We have to carry out a whole range of activities with the involvement of specialists who are experienced in this field. We are currently developing a technology that will maximize the tracking of all financial activities in the Armed Forces," he said . Apparently, Serdyukov will continue to pursue the planned line in the work of the department.

    Dossier "RG"

    Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov was born on January 8, 1962 in the village of Kholmsky in the Abinsky district of the Krasnodar Territory.

    In 1984 he graduated from the Leningrad Institute of Soviet Trade with a degree in economics. Then he served in the Soviet Army for a year and a half. After returning from military service until 2000, he worked in St. Petersburg, the last position being the general director of one of the largest joint-stock companies in the city.

    In 2000 he defended his thesis, became a candidate of economic sciences. 2000-2001 - Deputy Head of the Inspectorate of the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Taxes and Levies in St. Petersburg. In 2001 he graduated from St. Petersburg State University with a degree in law.

    In May 2001, he was appointed Deputy Head of the Department of the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Taxes and Levies in St. Petersburg, and in November of the same year, he was appointed Head of the Department.

    March 2, 2002 became deputy minister of the Russian Federation for taxes and duties. Since March 16 - Acting Minister.

    July 27, 2004 was appointed head of the Federal Tax Service.

    Since February 15, 2007 - Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. "

    PS Key, from my tz, the provisions are highlighted in bold in the text. There the following edition begs: "... so that not a single ruble is spent to business and moreover was not lost to pockets of officials".
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 18 September 2011 15: 03 New
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      916-th, that Putin put it for the fin. control - this is known. Only these words. But in real life they put him for the reformation of the army. The fact that he is not the author of the reforms is obvious, but who is the author? Who worked out the plan for reforming the army. Who would say that!
  47. mar.tira
    mar.tira 18 September 2011 09: 01 New
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    But is it possible to remove him. He’s a seasoned beast, he has a lot of protection. Nooo, it’s necessary in a different way, like in Dagestan. According to the list of close ones, and to the very end.
  48. 916-th
    916-th 18 September 2011 09: 15 New
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    In continuation of the previous comment, I will give the following analogy:

    Imagine a large warship having a developed infrastructure of warheads (warhead-1, warhead-2, warhead-3, etc.). The captain, the "first after God," commands all this economy. His holy duty is to maintain the ship and all its warheads in constant combat readiness. To do this, he must have the appropriate competencies and real authority among the crew of the ship.

    On the ship, in a number of tens and hundreds of posts, there is a full-time position treasurer, far from the most important with t.z. maintaining the ship in a state of combat readiness (the boatswain, for sure, will be even more important!).

    One day, not the most beautiful day (February 15.02.2007, XNUMX), the “god” appoints the captain of the treasurer, explaining that, from his point of view, the mother-god, the financial condition of the ship is much more important than the combat readiness.

    Rhetorical questions: What about the “god”? How can it be characterized? What are true motives his decisions? At the same time, it should be borne in mind that the "god", in fact, is far from being a stupid and not-short-sighted ruler.
  49. APASUS 18 September 2011 09: 26 New
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    Fully understanding the entire anger of the people, I want to say: but he didn’t appoint himself to the Defense Ministry and the policy he oppresses is the policy of the “party!” I can’t imagine that the generals in Soviet times were so dirty from the upper stands, our weapons.
    Why don’t you say, but in Soviet times, the recruitment service worked better, I would not have arranged a son-in-law in the Defense Ministry with the help of the Minister !!!!
  50. indrik
    indrik 18 September 2011 09: 32 New
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    "for" alexeyev alexander sergeevich stock sergeant Gkirishi flax obl.