Warsaw does not like the fact that in Russia the Polish “Tuchol” is considered a concentration camp, and “Auschwitz” is called “Auschwitz”

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Much noise was caused by an article by the Moscow historian Dmitry Ofitserov-Belsky in the pages "Tapes.Ru". The article was titled “Indifferently and Patiently,” which discussed the difficult story Russian-Polish relations, as well as the fate of the prisoners of the Auschwitz death camp. As the author of the article, Officer Belsky, has already stated in another material, representatives of the Polish diplomatic mission in Russia turned to the editorial office of Lety.ru with criticism that the death camp Auschwitz is called Auschwitz, and not Auschwitz (Auschwitz-Birkenau). In the opinion of Polish diplomats, in Russia the “rules” of the name of the Nazi camp should be followed exactly in German manner, since the name “Auschwitz” (after the name of the Polish town, in the immediate vicinity of which the Nazis launched the death line) allegedly casts some shadow on Polish history.

Warsaw does not like the fact that in Russia the Polish “Tuchol” is considered a concentration camp, and “Auschwitz” is called “Auschwitz”


However, the claim of the Polish side to the well-established name Auschwitz in Russia was not the only one. The deputy Polish ambassador to the Russian Federation, Yaroslav Ksenzek, said that the Russian historian illegally uses the term “Polish concentration camps” in relation to the camps in whose territories the Red Army prisoners were held at the beginning of the 20 of the last century.

From a letter from the representatives of the Polish Embassy to the editors of the resource mentioned above:

We categorically object to the use of this definition (“Polish concentration camps” - author’s comment), because it in no way corresponds to the historical truth. In Poland, the period between the world wars (1918 - 1939) such camps did not exist. (...)


Is that so? "Does not correspond to the historical truth", and in the period from 1918 to 1939 "such camps did not exist"? An interesting statement of the Polish Embassy in Russia. But if “they did not exist,” how then, gentlemen, Polish diplomats, would you call the “institution” operating in the independent Polish Republic from 1934 in the town of Bereza-Kartuzskaya (now the Brest Region of Belarus), which in documents of such a person as Jozef Kamal -Kurgan (one of the commandants) was held only as a concentration-isolation camp? Those who are called political prisoners (in particular, Mr. Pilsudski’s opponents, including Polish communists), representatives of the Ukrainian and Belarusian resistance, Jewish political activists, as well as German prisoners of war (in the first days of World War II). One of the prisoners of the concentration camp in Berezze-Kartuzskaya was, for example, Roman Shukhevych - the one Ukraine is praying for today, and for worship of which Ukrainian neo-Nazis and Kiev authorities ironically shut their eyes in Warsaw.

From materials “MOPR in Western Belarus (1923-1939)”, by T.A.Lugacheva, Grodno, 2001,:

The camp had wire fences with machine-gun towers around the perimeter. Prisoners wore linen clothes with a round linen cap, on their feet - wooden shoes. 40 people were stuffed into small chambers with cement floor. So that the prisoners did not sit down, the floor was constantly watered. They were forbidden to talk. The lot of the prisoners was exhausting work and a hungry ration. Ill-treatment by the camp administration was the norm.



According to historians, at least 10 thousands of people passed through the concentration camp in Berezze-Kartuzskaya - the figure is quite conditional, since in September 1939, the camp administration destroyed almost all the camp documents.

If in the period from 1918 to 1939 years, according to the Polish side, there were no concentration camps in Poland, then what, according to Warsaw, was a camp in the town of Tuchol, where thousands of 22 (according to other estimates) - over 60 thousand) captured fighters of the Red Army. Polish historians report that "only" 2 thousands of Red Army soldiers were killed in Tuchola. And what - the concept of "concentration camp" is connected solely with how many people died in it? Or did the death of 2 thousands of Red Army men in this camp somehow justify Warsaw and the fact that Poland at one time refused to sign even such a document as obligations under the Red Cross in relation to prisoners of war? The hands of Polish guards in Tuchola were untied, and therefore thousands of soldiers of the Red Army actually had no chance.

Dmitry Ofitserov-Belsky cites a fragment from the notes of a Tuchol prisoner by the name of Kalikin (State Archive of the Russian Federation):

Even in Thorn about Tuchol told all sorts of horrors, but reality surpassed all expectations. Imagine a sandy plain not far from the river, enclosed by two rows of barbed wire, within which half-destroyed dugouts are arranged in regular rows. Nowhere, neither trees, nor blades of grass, one sand. Not far from the main gate - the barracks of corrugated iron. When you walk past them at night, you hear a strange, pinching sound, like someone crying softly. During the day, it was unbearably hot in the barracks from the sun, it was cold at night ... When our army was interned, the Polish minister was asked what would happen to the Polish minister. “They will act with it in the manner demanded by the honor and dignity of Poland,” he replied proudly.

Did Tuchol really need for this "honor"? So, we came to Tuchol and settled in the iron barracks. The cold came, and the stoves were not heated for lack of firewood. One year later, 50 percent of women who were here and 40 percent of men became ill, mainly with tuberculosis. Many have died. Most of my friends died, there were hanged.




If Tuchol is not a concentration camp, then what?

From the historical definition of a concentration camp:

a term denoting a specially equipped center for mass forced detention and maintenance of the following categories of citizens of different countries:
prisoners of war and internees during the war;
political prisoners under certain dictatorial regimes, out of court;
persons deprived of their liberty on a national or other basis;
hostages, usually during civil wars or occupation;
destined for liquidation in the extermination camps in the Nazi states.


There are facts and extrajudicial order, and a large number of prisoners of war, and imprisonment on a national basis (as in the same Birch-Kartuzskaya). The Polish side can repeat as much as it can that these are not concentration camps, trying to hide the obvious behind the tricks with a recapitulation of history, but all these attempts to hide the real facts are revealed in Polish diplomats of the current generation of historical vandals. We should not forget that with constant statements about the "reprisals of the Soviet special services over tens of thousands of Polish officers in Katyn" the Polish side does not even want to hear about the erection of a monument to the Red Army, ruined in the same Tuchola. The “cemetery” of the soldiers of the Red Army that perished in this camp today is not similar to the cemetery - a piece of land somewhere in the area of ​​a cement plant and a drain for sewage ... This is taking into account the fact that Russia has not only opened the Katyn memorial, but also its maintenance and care. The Polish side does not want to hear about Tuchol.

Another excerpt from the letter of the Polish Embassy:
It should also be noted that the full name of the liberated camp in January 1945 of the camp sounds: “German Nazi concentration camp and Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp” - and it should not be associated with the Polish city of Auschwitz.


Well, that's, sorry, complete nonsense. In the end, this is the personal affair of each of the Russians, what to associate with what. If the head of Polish diplomacy, Shetyna, believes that Ukrainians opened the doors of this camp, since the front was Ukrainian, and the Polish Foreign Ministry actively supports this position, then claims regarding how the death camp at Auschwitz should be called in Russia should be kept by Warsaw’s official . For seventy years, the camp was called Auschwitz, and at the same time no one even thought to consider this camp "Polish", and then suddenly - receive a "directive" from the Polish ambassador about "Auschwitz" - sign it! Do you want to teach the history and questions of the terminology of your “historian” Shetyn, or tell us what the Polish mercenaries are doing in the Ukrainian punitive battalions in the Donbass! ..
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  1. +20
    12 February 2015 07: 40
    The Poles cast a shadow over themselves and support Bandera after all that they have done.
    1. +26
      12 February 2015 08: 41
      Quote: yurikh
      The Poles cast a shadow over themselves and support Bandera after all that they have done.

      Dear what shadow? These are the Poles. They have nowhere to put stamps on.
      1. +8
        12 February 2015 10: 58
        -Hronyaka These are Poles. They have nowhere to put stamps on.
        Pole, after all, is no longer a nation, but a profession ...
        1. +4
          12 February 2015 13: 21
          Quote: knn54
          Pole, after all, is no longer a nation, but a profession ...

          The Poles are a fascist nation, there are those on our planet and these are NOT GERMANS. A distinctive feature of such nations is the mono-ethnic composition, in the process of history, fascist nations (killer nations) destroy all citizens of their country of a different nationality. The same thing will happen in Ukraine, all non-Ukrainians will be destroyed (except for Jews who will lead the process).
        2. +1
          12 February 2015 20: 34
          Quote: knn54
          Pole, after all, is no longer a nation, but a profession ...

          Which profession???? It's a disease!!!
      2. +1
        12 February 2015 14: 17
        No wonder the classic used to say: "... the snake tongue of the snake people ..."
      3. 0
        12 February 2015 16: 28
        This is the shadow of the Poles.
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      5. 0
        12 February 2015 20: 34
        Quote: Hronyaka
        They have nowhere to put stamps on.

        Shaw soo and squirmed ?????
      6. Wii
        0
        12 February 2015 22: 17
        Dog krev .. these Poles
    2. +20
      12 February 2015 08: 52
      The first death camps in Europe were arranged by the Poles. And the fact that Hitler began to recycle the first Poles for soap is some kind of evil and tragic irony. Well, the fact that they spit in the face of the country that saved them from total destruction, history will still remember. In life, everything goes in a circle.
      1. +2
        12 February 2015 12: 32
        If Arkhangelsk is considered Europe (Adolf considered), then the Angles were the first.
        1. 0
          12 February 2015 21: 01
          Quote: Vasya
          If Arkhangelsk is considered Europe

          And you, Vasya, do not think? Do you preach alternative geography?
      2. 0
        12 February 2015 14: 48
        Actually, the first concentration camps in Europe were arranged by the Austro-Hungarians for the Rusyns.
      3. 0
        13 February 2015 01: 39
        Quote: Polovec
        The first death camps in Europe were arranged by the Poles. And the fact that Hitler began to recycle the first Poles for soap is some kind of evil and tragic irony. Well, the fact that they spit in the face of the country that saved them from total destruction, history will still remember. In life, everything goes in a circle.
        As the saying goes ... GOD HELMET TAGS ... and another saying in Polish essence ... HOW MUCH WOLF DO NOT FEED IT LOOKS AT ALL FOREST
    3. +6
      12 February 2015 08: 57
      I had heard about Polish concentration camps before, but now I think that it is necessary for the Poles to poke their nose at the information about their camps at every opportunity so that they know that Russia remembers its dead and tortured citizens, because a long time after the end of the civil war at 20 In the 30s, they refused to give out captured Red Army men who had come to them before 1920, how to call it because it’s genocide, and we will always remember it even if the Poles don’t like it and they build innocent lambs from ourselves before the war that we occupied Brest uh then rightly then it was necessary to raise this issue at the international level when there were still many living prisoners of those camps.
      1. +2
        12 February 2015 10: 36
        supposedly casts a shadow on Polish history.

        It is the Polish ministers dolboklui cast a shadow on Polish history. So ask them. And if Auschwitz still remains on the territory of present-day Poland, this means that the presence in Poland of the Nazis, who continue to root their vile deeds.
      2. pahom54
        +2
        12 February 2015 13: 40
        Quote: wanderer987
        at every opportunity, the Poles need to poke their nose into the information about their end camps so that they know that Russia remembers its dead and tortured citizens,



        So I’m thinking - and why did Russia practically apologize to Poland for Katyn, which, compared to Tukhol and similar camps, is a grain of sand in the desert? ... There was nothing to do ... Now they are trying to sit down on their heads ...
    4. 0
      12 February 2015 14: 11
      the author perfectly laid out the topic! FIVE!
  2. +8
    12 February 2015 07: 52
    It turns out that the Pshek camp was equipped even worse (in dugouts) than the Germans.
    1. 0
      12 February 2015 08: 58
      But the Nazis of Germany didn’t think of anything special, they adopted it from the Poles and completed it in their own way.
  3. +7
    12 February 2015 07: 52
    Will be associated. The Poles themselves were not far from the Germans in this respect.
  4. +3
    12 February 2015 08: 00
    Of course not a concentration camp! And Europe in the Great Patriotic War was liberated by the Poles and therefore Victory Day should be celebrated in Warsaw. But the fascists moved to Poland democratically elected and the government became fascist, and in 1944 there was a sharp outflow of fascists to Germany, and a democratic change of power was taking place in Poland. But the USSR invades Poland and overthrows a democratically elected government. Rave? Take away soon this interpretation of history in Poland
  5. +6
    12 February 2015 08: 00
    Looking at these gestures of modern Poland, for some reason you begin to understand the Germans request The country has lost more than 6 million people from the genocide ..... request
  6. +3
    12 February 2015 08: 04
    what are the Polish mercenaries doing as part of the Ukrainian punitive battalions in the Donbass! ..


    This question has long had to be asked the Polish Foreign Ministry. It is time not only to listen to anti-Russian and Russophobic speeches from Polish politicians, but to demand an answer from them for statements.
  7. +13
    12 February 2015 08: 22
    The article is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Looking at the modern gentry-Baltic kooky, I begin to trust the conclusions of Soviet historians and commanders. This is not red propaganda, it was true.
    1. 0
      12 February 2015 12: 47
      Quote: Barboskin
      The article is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Looking at the modern gentry-Baltic kooky, I begin to trust the conclusions of Soviet historians and commanders. This is not red propaganda, it was true.

      Add to this another Lukidos suit, who began to support nationalists.
      Another one with a story about the Great Litvinians and the community of Poland, the Baltic states and Belarus, which are the basis not only of the Russian-Lithuanian principality, but also of the Rzhachi of the Commonwealth.
      There is only one problem: there were no Belarusians in those days. Woods, Vyatichi, etc. were, but there were no Belarusians
  8. +3
    12 February 2015 08: 29
    The cemetery ”today, the Red Army soldiers who perished in this camp do not even look like a cemetery - a piece of land somewhere in the vicinity of a cement plant and sewage for sewage ... This is taking into account the fact that Russia not only opened the Katyn memorial, but is also working on it maintenance and care. The Polish side does not want to hear about Tukhol.
    And what (or who) is stopping us from suspending the funding of the Katyn Memorial and transferring this money to Tuchol? And the local residents were asked if they need this memorial?
    1. 0
      12 February 2015 21: 18
      In Tuchola, they wanted to hang a memorial plaque about the victims of the dead Red Army, the Polish authorities refused.
  9. -7
    12 February 2015 08: 35
    It seems to me that this issue should be considered from a different perspective:
    The RSFSR undertook a liberation campaign in Poland in the 20s. The result - the emergence of end camps in Poland.
    The USSR repeated the campaign against Poland in 39 years. The result is the appearance in the USSR of concentration camps with Poles.

    And the name is Auschwitz, that Auschwitz is like Lada Lada. The historical essence and understanding does not change.
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    2. explorer
      +1
      12 February 2015 10: 01
      The main goal of the Polish leadership, led by Jozef Pilsudski, was to restore Poland within the historical borders of the Commonwealth of 1772, with the establishment of control over Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania and geopolitical dominance in Eastern Europe.


      And it is not a liberation campaign at all. The concentration camp is Poland's continuation of the policy of de-Russification, which had begun earlier in Austria-Hungary.
      1. -2
        12 February 2015 14: 27
        You would still remember the 13th century. And the attempt of the Novgorod Republic to join the Polish Principality. As a result, Ivan III - from the Principality of Moscow went to war. And prisek, this attempt.
        1. +1
          12 February 2015 21: 09
          Quote: Takashi
          And prisek, this attempt.

          13th century. Principality of Poland. Ivan 3 - from the Principality of Moscow. Who is your attempt priseket, mockery of the Russian language and Russian history? Your nickname is Japanese - make a sepukka, it will be noble, and no one will get your hands dirty.
          1. 0
            13 February 2015 07: 40
            Judging by what was written, you do not know well the HISTORY of your state. But this is the 5th grade. Open Yandex. drive in "end of the novgorod republic"

            http://gorchev.lib.ru/ik/Predystoriya%20SPb_1703god/B1_Razdel_1/1_1_19.html

            "
            1471 - led by the Boretsky Party, Novgorod enters into an alliance agreement with the Lithuanian Grand Duke and the King of Poland Kazimir Yagaylovich (Yagellonchik) on their protection of Novgorod from the power of Moscow; the king gives Novgorod his governor and pledges to protect his liberties.

            The reaction of Moscow was not slow to affect.

            On July 14, a battle of Novgorodians took place on the Sheloni River, led by the posadniks Vasily Kazimir and Dmitry Boretsky, with the Moscow army of Prince Danila Kholmsky and the army of Pskov.

            The St. Petersburg historian Yuri Alekseev in the book "Sovereign of All Russia" writes about this:

            “On Sunday, July 14, a battle took place on Sheloni, deciding the fate of the feudal republic.

            The Moscow, Pskov and Novgorod annals, diverging in details, are unanimous in one thing: the troops of Mr. Veliky Novgorod were defeated utterly. Many thousands of soldiers fell on the battlefield, two thousand were captured. The tip of the Novgorod nobility, the most hostile to Moscow, was captured ”190).

            July 24 - the execution in Ruse of the four Novgorod boyars-leaders, including Dmitry Boretsky and Vasily Guba-Seleznya.

            July 27 - the beginning of negotiations in Korostyn of the Novgorod deputation, led by Archbishop Feofil with representatives of the Grand Duke of Moscow Ivan III Vasilyevich about peace.
            "



            Learn History.
            1. 0
              13 February 2015 10: 16
              But you still learn Russian!
    3. +4
      12 February 2015 10: 29
      But even now, with the most liberal approach, no one suggests giving western Ukraine and Brest to Poland. These territories were seized by her in the period from 1918 to 1920, using the civil war in Russia. If not for the liberation campaign, then all of Ukraine together with Kiev would be Polish. By the way, even at that time, they grabbed part of the German lands, so that 1939 is a natural reaction of Germany and Russia to the action of an arrogant, cunning and cowardly neighbor.
    4. +2
      12 February 2015 13: 27
      Quote: Takashi
      The result is the appearance in the USSR of concentration camps with Poles.

      There were no concentration camps with Poles in the USSR.
      1. 0
        12 February 2015 14: 32
        There was no final, I exaggerated the essence.
        Because, they (Poles = officers, civil servants, clergy, gendarmes, in short of all who somehow interfered with the establishment of socialism / communism) poor, were simply shot in the camps. Those who were not shot were later organized by the Polish Army to liberate Poland from fascism. Remember the film "Three Tankmen and a Dog" - the commander was a Pole from the forests of Siberia, another Pole, a Georgian, a dog of unknown breed and nationality.
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        2. explorer
          +3
          12 February 2015 15: 08
          Quote: Takashi
          There was no final, I exaggerated the essence.

          Exaggeration is a good thing - but in this way you can completely lose the essence of the phenomenon.

          And here it is worth remembering that if it were not for the "political moves" of the Polish leadership, then with a probability of 100% they would stand together with the Romanian, Hungarian and other divisions of civilized Europeans and the divisions of "poor Poles" at Stalingrad.
          1. 0
            13 February 2015 07: 51
            speech is not moves.
            but about whether there were concentration camps in Poland with our prisoners of war? - were.
            Were there concentration camps with Polish prisoners of war in the USSR? - were.
            ---------------------
            If you accept, then the definition of a concentration camp, which is defined.

            To very many people, there’s simply nothing to write here, and it begins: a substitution of concepts, long arguments who would have stood somewhere in Stalingrad, a search for errors in the Russian language, .... But, historical evidence (documents, memoirs) suggests that the Poles in general (categorically) did not want either the protection of Hitler, or friendship with Stalin.
        3. +1
          12 February 2015 21: 14
          Quote: Takashi
          was a pole from the forests of Siberia

          There is a Polish church in Tobolsk. Local Poles squeezed a sack of money from the European public with tears, which is a pleasure to see, for the repair of this church. When I heard the price of repair, I even got respect for the ability to steal from such a clandestine nobility.
          1. 0
            13 February 2015 07: 43
            well done. quickly learn from ours. as they say - "whoever you lead with, that you will gain"
  10. +6
    12 February 2015 08: 35
    and our cretins for some reason recognized Katyn ... asks, WHY ???
    1. +1
      12 February 2015 09: 22
      A Pole becomes good only when his master, an Austrian or a non-merchant, becomes dead!
    2. +3
      12 February 2015 10: 14
      These are the affairs of the unkind memory of the now deceased, then member of the Politburo of the CPSU, secretary for ideology A.N. Yakovlev,
      “I have never heard a warm word from Yakovlev about the Motherland, I did not notice that he was proud of something, for example, our victory in the Great Patriotic War. This especially struck me, because he himself was a participant in the war, he was seriously wounded. Apparently, the desire to destroy, discredit everything and everyone prevailed over justice, the most natural human feelings, over elementary decency in relation to the Motherland and their own people. " And yet - I have never heard from him a single kind word about the Russian people. And the very concept of "people" for him never existed at all "
      V. Kryuchkov

      and then Head of the Main Political Directorate of the Soviet Army Dmitry Volkogonov.
      For they were the organizers of that gigantic falsification, today called the Katyn tragedy. But who was their customer .....
      1. +3
        12 February 2015 10: 31
        Yakovlev specifically stated in the media: My main goal was the collapse of the USSR and revenge for relatives of those arrested in 37.
    3. 0
      12 February 2015 21: 15
      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      asked why ???

      I really wanted to go to Europe. We thought the psheks would help.
    4. Mih
      0
      12 February 2015 21: 32
      and our cretins for some reason recognized Katyn ... asks, WHY ???
      Why is a big, big question. And if the SS troops? So it changes everything. How the Poles are trying to push everything to the NKVD! And, however, if that, it was necessary. After mocking the Russian soldiers, then this is a response. And what do the "psheki" think? Their logic is not clear to me. I feel good. Maybe you can? Brad. The sea is the Russian sea and, once, will never be Polish. Hello "Panamas" !!!!!!!
  11. 0
    12 February 2015 09: 00
    Maydanism is a concept similar to medical and clinical as well as international. And he unfortunately is not treated medically, but only surgically.
  12. +3
    12 February 2015 09: 03
    Poland is a European hyena. It rushes at all who are currently weaker than her or have the opportunity to snatch. The most infamous and putrid nation in its entirety. History is an example .....
  13. +2
    12 February 2015 09: 31
    Poland's political "elite" no longer knows how and with what to prick Russia. The President of Poland refused to go to Moscow to celebrate Victory Day, stepping over the Soviet and Polish wars who died for its liberation (Soviet - irrevocable - 477 people, sanitary - 295 people, total - 1 people). Baseness, which simply has to be punished.
  14. +1
    12 February 2015 10: 14
    The rotten people of these Poles, then there is nothing to comment on.
  15. +2
    12 February 2015 10: 35
    I don’t understand one thing. What is it that the Pshekoshavks are so unkind? No way to them, through the diplomatic channels, real data on the losses of their mercenaries in the Donbass begin to reach. In general, already tired of paying attention to the political representatives of the most ancient profession
  16. +2
    12 February 2015 11: 39
    We categorically object to the use of this definition (“Polish concentration camps” - author’s comment), because it in no way corresponds to the historical truth. In Poland, the period between the world wars (1918 - 1939) such camps did not exist. (...)

    Then let the gentry de ... mo present the documents and explain what happened to about 60 thousand (according to some sources, even more) Red Army soldiers who were captured in 1920 after a short war between Poland and Soviet Russia! Did they really like it so much in the camps, which at that time should have been called, of course, not contractional, but something like "recreation zones" that everyone decided to stay in Poland, in this blessed land of freedom, multiculturalism and religious tolerance! But there are practically no traces of most of them! Even to just be buried humanly, IT WAS REFUSED!
  17. PAV
    +1
    12 February 2015 11: 42
    Who does not remember the past, there is no future !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  18. wladimir
    0
    12 February 2015 13: 01
    Poles are jackals, or hyenas, as Churchill called them
  19. +2
    12 February 2015 13: 15
    Is it really a matter of Tukhol alone? There were dozens of such camps and the most famous of them were Tukhol, Stshalkov, Tern and many others. The whole difference between the Poles and us is that we put Katyn in order and allow delegations that are far from friendly to us for holding our covens, including Russophobic content. And in the camps where the Russians were kept, they forbid even putting a memorial sign. Like there was nothing here, forget it. The treatment is simple - temporarily prohibit the Poles from visiting Katyn and Smolensk until they are brought back to normal, human condition. There will be a lot of screeching, but the result is provided, because It is on the Katyn myth that the current version of the RP is based.
  20. bright
    +1
    12 February 2015 14: 04
    Quote: XYZ
    The treatment is simple - temporarily prohibit the Poles from visiting Katyn and Smolensk until they are brought back to normal, human condition. There will be a lot of screeching, but the result is provided, because It is on the Katyn myth that the current version of the RP is based.

    Allow only by air, and only in fog.
  21. 0
    12 February 2015 17: 40
    Just? They accused themselves of the Katyn massacre to "strengthen friendship with Poland." So we are reaping the benefits. Although the court has not considered the criminal case on the fact, and the forgeries contained in it did not become evidence of a historical falsification by order.
  22. 0
    12 February 2015 19: 23
    And who cares what the Poles like and what not! Their job is to kiss the Americans in the ass and keep quiet.
  23. 0
    12 February 2015 19: 57
    A good and failed country - just do not put forward claims and put forward. Yes, already tired of dancing with you. point
  24. 0
    12 February 2015 20: 33
    just do not need about all the Poles. there are among those who remember and know, who and what, Russophobes are everywhere.
    1. 0
      12 February 2015 21: 22
      Quote: kotvov
      just don't

      When the voice of those who ... is heard, then we will not. Well, they roll a barrel on us despite the presence of pasta and bulk - a product with their own smell.
  25. 0
    12 February 2015 20: 46
    This is how the truth about "brotherly peoples" emerges! How much money the Union threw into these reptiles, tearing them away from themselves. As if the gentlemen did not burst from impudence. It was! It was Panova! And why are you not going anywhere.
  26. 0
    12 February 2015 21: 01
    Poles are like Poles. They are ready to forget even the Volyn massacre and support the current Bandera, if only against Russia.
  27. 0
    12 February 2015 22: 06
    They would correct their "chief" from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs better, because an ignoramus in history ...

    As one of your other officials said, the Poles in the EU are nothing more than "beddings" and all of them were "curbed" by the ears and who crying negative hi
  28. 0
    13 February 2015 06: 19
    Yes ! The Poles are better off shutting up at the expense of reversing history.

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