An EDA-R landing craft launched in France - the first of two ordered by Russia for Mistral

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From the information posted on the French portal Meretmarine.com it became known that the company Socarenam launched the first high-speed landing craft of the catamaran type EDA-R (L-CAT) at the shipyard in Saint-Malo. This is the first of the 2-x ordered by Russia ships, which were to be placed in the dock-chambers of the Mistral helicopter carriers not transferred to the Russian side. This is reported by the blog. bmpd.



“After launching, the headboat was towed to be completed at the Socarenam shipyard in Boulogne-sur-Mer, its delivery is scheduled for December 2015 of the year. At the company "Socarenam" in Saint-Malo is under construction and the second boat of this type for Russia. The construction of both boats was conducted in considerable secrecy, and their order itself was not advertised, ”writes the French portal.

EDA-R boats were ordered by Russia along with four landing craft (traditional type) CTM NG, which are already built at the STX Lorient shipyard in Loriana. Currently, all 4 boats are located in Saint-Nazaire along with the completed construction of the Vladivostok DVKD.

According to the Internet resource, the Mistral can carry in its dock-chamber “two boats of type EDA-R, or four boats of type CTM (CTM NG), or a combination of one EDA-R and two CTM (CTM NG)”.

"EDA-R –30-meter all-aluminum speedboat-catamaran (official French designation L'engin de Débarquement Amphibie Rapide - EDA-R), developed by the French private shipbuilding company (CNIM) from Saint-Malo specifically for basing in dock cameras French UDC type "Mistral". The prototype demonstrator of the boat was built in 2006-2008, ”the portal reports.

In 2009, the French Ministry of Defense ordered 4 for such boats. All of them were built and handed over to the military department in 2011-2012.


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  1. +2
    11 February 2015 13: 00
    And they, what was not done simultaneously with the Mistrals? belay However, hurry, comrades, we will soon take these pelvis. Yes
    1. +16
      11 February 2015 13: 06
      Fuck! Let them ride the tourists around the Mistrals on these tubs. Maybe they will earn at least something to pay the forfeit to Russia!
      1. +16
        11 February 2015 13: 15
        It's time for us to create a sect "Believers in the forfeit from France."
        1. +1
          11 February 2015 13: 19
          The French Mistral may already be riveting for themselves - although they still have no idea laughing
      2. +3
        11 February 2015 13: 22
        Let from Turkey in 2019. gas is transported in cans.
        1. +1
          11 February 2015 14: 05
          In my opinion, it is time for Mistral to leave Russia in the past, to return the money paid for them, and these pelvis are already a headache for France and let them want someone to do it.
          1. +1
            11 February 2015 14: 15
            Previously, it was assumed that the Russian “Mistals” for landing equipment and personnel on unequipped shore will receive high-speed landing boats in the air cavity of 11770 projects “Chamois”And 21280“Dugong”Development of the Central Design Bureau for hydrofoil ships named after Alekseev.
            These boats are serially built at Russian shipyards and fit well into the dimensions of the Mistral dock.
            It was also possible that the helicopter carriers of the modernized air cushion landing project 12061 “Moray eel”Development TsMKB“ Almaz ”.
            1176 project landing boats also fitShark”Developed by Vympel Design Bureau. They, too, have long been mastered by domestic industry.
            But even this seemed not enough for the sailors. They asked the designers of the Nizhny Novgorod Motor Ship plant to create a project for a completely new landing boat. So the 02320 project “Cossack" The boat carries two T-90 tanks or two BTR-80 armored personnel carriers to the landing site at a speed of 11 knots. It is possible to transfer 50 marines plus one tank or armored personnel carrier. For self-defense and fire support, the boat carries one 12,7-mm Kord or Utes machine gun, two 30-mm AG-17A automatic grenade launchers, two DP-64 anti-sabotage grenade launchers and four Igla MANPADS. Thanks to the widespread introduction of automation tools, the Cossack crew consists of only four people. Since the boat was designed specifically for the Mistral, four of them are placed in its docking chamber. However, when the project was ready, the Ministry of Defense unexpectedly refused it, and without being bound by any contractual obligations, of course, nothing was paid for the work done.

            What is proposed to be placed on the “Mistral” instead of Russian boats? The French are imposing their EDA-R catamaran landing craft. When fully loaded, they are able to transport two main tanks or several armored personnel carriers with a speed of 15 knots, empty the boat is able to move at a speed of 30 knots. But it is designed for operation in the warm waters of the Mediterranean Sea. When used in the winter conditions of the Far East, it will fail at the first attempt to reach the shore with ice fast ice or with sludge and, most likely, forever. In addition, the French EDA-R is very expensive. Each unit costs 31,3 million euros, which is more than double the cost of the domestic boat Murena-E. At the same time, “Murena” has a higher speed, no less carrying capacity and easily runs on ice and on sludge. The decision to purchase French boats can pursue only one goal - supporting French military shipbuilding at the expense of Russian taxpayers.
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            1. +5
              11 February 2015 14: 38
              Dugong is already a small landing ship practically. He climbs there 1 and there is no more space. Here in the Chinese 100 meter dock at 071 it was still possible to poke it.

              Chamois, Shark, Cossack has one significant drawback, they are not cross-cutting. And for boats in the DKVD, this is critical. I’ll explain on the fingers - there are 4 boats, they came to the area of ​​operation, they need to be loaded.

              Our - you need to open the camera to take 2 final boats out of the dock, submerged 2 boats of the front pair to wait, then start two final empty boats, load them and only after that, you will have 4 loaded boats ready for landing.

              French people - open the aft and bow gangways and load all 4 boats inside the docking chamber. After all 4 submerged withdraw and ready for the landing.

              The reason for the failure of the Shark and Chamois design is clear, they were not created for this. Here the developed Cossack is a jamb of TK or a designer, for assembling a boat with a through cargo deck is a rather difficult task.

              Moray - of the day you need to recreate production, with which there are simply huge problems, this time. Two again, she loses the same LCAC even to Chinese, because of the closed volume, it wasn’t created for this of course.
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  2. 0
    11 February 2015 13: 00
    An EDA-R landing craft launched in France - the first of two ordered by Russia for Mistral
    - and sho ...? You might think that these boats without Mistrals are so necessary, well, so necessary ... We already need the Mistrals for as long as we need them ...
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    2. +1
      11 February 2015 13: 05
      Quote: svp67
      - and sho ...?

      Really! And when the deadlines for the transfer come out, who knows? Like in the middle of this month!
      Launching the boat on the water does not mean anything! what
      1. +1
        11 February 2015 13: 15
        Quote: Sid.74
        Launching the boat on the water does not mean anything!

        Why not? He speaks. As I understand it, they will be able to adapt it to their Mistrals, regardless of the letter "R", which as I understand it means "Russian". This "trough" is easier to adopt than "Mistral-R". And so, for Russian money, an increase to the tonnage.
        1. 0
          11 February 2015 13: 28
          Quote: svp67
          And so, for Russian money, an increase in tonnage.

          But they can adapt the boats, let’s say. And what will they do with the Mistrals? Feed which the French do not belong to.
          If they were made entirely to European standards of notation, they might be sold. And so it will be for the French a suitcase without a handle.
          In response, Russia can arrange the nationalization of the assets of some French firms. Renault, for example, shreds AvtoVAZ stocks. Not gentlemanly, but fair for us. To live with wolves, howl like wolves.
          1. +1
            11 February 2015 14: 42
            Quote: Sid.74
            And what will they do with the Mistrals? Feed in which the French do not belong.

            That the feed, by and large, is not theirs, but the point is ... They are threatening war, just not to give them away.
            Quote: Sid.74
            In response, Russia can arrange the nationalization of the assets of some French firms.

            What I have a HUGE doubt ...
            Quote: Sid.74
            In Renault, for example, AvtoVAZ shares chop off.

            You still swing at Total ... Yes, ours are now strangled, but they will not be touched
            Quote: Sid.74
            And what will they do with the Mistrals?

            Well, for example, they will sell to China. Those certainly will not refuse, or India. That those that our standards know.
            For me, they would have "presented" them to Ukraine, so that it would finally bend, trying to bring them into a combat-ready state.
            1. 0
              11 February 2015 23: 54
              Quote: svp67
              Well, for example, they will sell to China. Those certainly will not refuse, or India.

              Without our consent, they are not entitled (under international law) ...
        2. +1
          11 February 2015 13: 29
          Quote: svp67
          As I understand it, they can adapt it to their Mistrals, regardless of the letter "R", as I understand it "Russian".

          (the official French designation for L'engin de Débarquement Amphibie Rapide is EDA-R)
          Everything is written in the article, no need to guess hi
          1. 0
            11 February 2015 14: 37
            Quote: feanor
            Everything is written in the article, no need to guess

            hi but surely
            Quote: feanor
            (the official French designation for L'engin de Débarquement Amphibie Rapide is EDA-R)

            The translator gave the answer "Airborne Landing Mechanism Fast" ... so it looks like they won't have to alter anything for themselves.
  3. +2
    11 February 2015 13: 01
    Are dogs barking a caravan coming?
  4. +7
    11 February 2015 13: 01
    Mistral we can not see how their ears. And we won’t wait for the money. There they have royal debts before us, they don’t give back and don’t even want to talk about it, and with this order the same thing will happen. soldier
    1. +2
      11 February 2015 13: 05
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      There they have royal debts before us, they don’t give back and don’t even want to talk about it, and with this order the same thing will happen.


      I'm embarrassed to ask ... Have we given them all the "royal debts"?
      1. +2
        11 February 2015 13: 17
        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
        I'm embarrassed to ask ... Have we given them all the "royal debts"?

        Why be shy, then. As far as I know, the issue has been resolved in many ways, although not completely. Although under Gorbachev and EBN we could have achieved their complete write-off, but ... And so, here's another money for the American "Lend-Lease".
      2. 0
        11 February 2015 13: 21
        Three years ago, GDP was paid to French shareholders of the Chinese Military Railway (CER), which now largely belongs to China in full currency. After a hundred years.
    2. +8
      11 February 2015 13: 06
      And I always knew. It was necessary to burn Paris to edren hairdryer. Then back in 812m. They would still remember that jokes are bad with the Russians. They will come and punish.
      1. +1
        11 February 2015 14: 11
        Quote: Hariva
        And I always knew. It was necessary to burn Paris to edren hairdryer. Then back in 812m. They would still remember that jokes are bad with the Russians. They will come and punish.

        They forgot 45, and you are talking about 812. But what did you need - Alexander, in 813, to buy popcorn, step aside and watch how Europe, which was humbled by the French and freed by the Russians, would begin to cut the French out as a nation. Today this state would be called differently.
    3. +3
      11 February 2015 13: 06
      Now this issue is no longer economic but political.
      The fact that these pelvis (Mistral and boats) do not need us for nothing is understandable.
      To the campaign, the moment of truth (termination of the Mistral contract and the demand for forfeit) is a matter of time. I think the documents are ready and the French know about it (!!!). Therefore, Hollande and Merkel rush about like scalded ones — now to Moscow, now to Minsk.
      Campaign end of the week will be fun for the news - I'll go for popcorn ...
      1. +1
        11 February 2015 13: 21
        Quote: Finch OFF
        The fact that these pelvis (Mistral and boats) do not need us for nothing is understandable.

        If for nothing! And then the money wagon and a small cart paid!
        Quote: Finch OFF
        To the campaign, the moment of truth (termination of the Mistral contract and the demand for forfeit) is a matter of time.

        That is why Oland seeks to freeze the conflict. For the deadlines are not rubber.
        And most likely our farce awaits when any slightest weakening of the fire will be the greatest victory of Western diplomacy. And the universal observance of the peace initiatives of Kiev.
      2. +1
        11 February 2015 13: 27
        Well, that's not true. "Mistrals will be delivered to Nicaragua. According to unverified information, the deck, according to them, after minor modifications, can be adapted for carrier-based aircraft. And make a hostel for the warriors who will be busy guarding the construction."
        1. 0
          11 February 2015 13: 56
          Quote: user3970
          Well, that's not true. "The Mistrals will be delivered to Nicaragua. According to unverified information, their deck, according to some minor modifications, can be adapted for carrier-based aircraft."

          Whatever one may say, an aircraft carrier will not work out of it. And where did Nicaragua get money. It’s a very poor country. The population of 6 million and the country's GDP are about 20 billion dollars.

          the air force totaled 1,2 thousand military personnel, 15 combat helicopters; 16 transport helicopters Mi-17; four An-26 aircraft; one An-2; one T-41D and one Cessna 404 aircraft.
          naval forces numbered 800 people, 7 patrol boats (including three Dabur class boats) and 16 small boats

          Do you really think that Niacragua needs the Mistrals?
    4. +1
      11 February 2015 13: 29
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      Mistral we can not see how their ears. And we won’t wait for the money. There they have royal debts before us, they don’t give back and don’t even want to talk about it, and with this order the same thing will happen.

      so no problem)) increase the excise tax on sales of French cars in Russia by 40% or even introduce a limit on the number / total ban on cognacs, what else do they supply to us there? We naturally freeze factories and other property and take it for use before returning the money.
      Purely for information - according to statistics for 2014, 190 thousand were sold in Russia. 40 thousand Renoletts, Zaporizhzhya and Citroenkov. We multiply by the average cost of a car 10-12 thousand. Euro and voila! 190 thousand.x10000 = 1900000 thousand. = 1,9 billion eureka from only Renolet losses. There, of course, the Chinese will get there (brand owners now), but I think that they will sell who they need in a quick way - or they will transport everything to themselves, and we will no longer buy Renauls, but Jade carts and Dragon carriers. But Francois, Claude, Georges and Jean will be without work sitting on the lawn at the palace of Åland and burning tires.
  5. +2
    11 February 2015 13: 02
    We have already forgotten a little about the Mistals. Give BABLO! URO ,, YES! I hope Putin knows what he’s doing.
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  7. +1
    11 February 2015 13: 10
    In the first photo, the fender is in the color of the Ukrainian flag. Well or close :)
  8. 0
    11 February 2015 13: 12
    I don’t understand, should we rejoice or laugh ??? It seems like the French refused to deliver the Mistals ??? request
  9. 0
    11 February 2015 13: 13
    Here is the news, so the news! Everyone else has eclipsed! Who puts this crap?
  10. 0
    11 February 2015 13: 13
    What is this trough ???, we ourselves do not concoct such ???
    1. ZSP
      0
      11 February 2015 13: 38
      I agree that they themselves could have done, nothing special
  11. +13
    11 February 2015 13: 26
    Quote: Enot_33
    fuck to sculpt comments that do not carry any semantic load? stupidly gather pluses?

    And it seemed to me that in VO everyone is free to express their opinion. And to put pros or cons or not, it's up to you. For comments that do not carry any semantic meaning (i.e. flood) - gentlemen moderators follow. I’ll also put in my 5 kopecks commentary, wanting to get the pros (and maybe the cons) - whoever likes it ...
  12. 0
    11 February 2015 13: 29
    Maybe that's where all the troubles with the Mistrals come from?
    It seems like you buy a foreign car in the cabin from which, for example, someone has "screwed up" the battery and the Seller, in order to "save face", begins to put forward "excuses" - you need to wipe the glass, pump up the wheels, in short - come tomorrow!
    One thing confuses - the time for finishing / saturation of boats with equipment / weapons. During this time, you can stuff a boat - what?
    The control system (climate) of climate, Earth tectonics, hyper- and infrasound and so on. You can not further list - the displacement of the boats does not allow the development of fantasies to painful sizes.
    There is no displacement - there are no troubles of the military-technical plan.
    Again, all this damn politics.
  13. 0
    11 February 2015 13: 30
    Two Mistral - just to ensure the safety of the Chinese in Nicaragua to build a canal. One in the Pacific, the other in the Atlantic. )))
  14. 0
    11 February 2015 13: 47
    Damn so after all drove with the Ministry of Transport. Better money, and more more .... You can build on them and we can support our manufacturer. And the penalty is not only enough for the boats, but also for the new T-50 airplanes.
  15. 3vs
    0
    11 February 2015 14: 11
    Yes, they, infections, simply do not stand the deadlines, but hide behind sanctions! laughing
  16. ZAM
    +2
    11 February 2015 14: 16
    Indeed, it looks like some kind of trough, that mistrals, that boats ... I think a good weapon should be beautiful ... The one who ordered THIS was probably not weakly smeared with eyes ... Ugly design ... More like the Titanic. ..or the ferry "estonia" which sank.
    I remember from childhood, the ferry we went across the lake, and it was prettier ... So it was built by local craftsmen ...
  17. KIL
    KIL
    +1
    11 February 2015 14: 43
    This means that the French factories are fulfilling the contract, is it not time for the French to tear off the childbearing organ to their president, so that he does not go to his mistresses, and he thinks about his labors the shipyard, which is for the friendship between France and Russia.
  18. KIL
    KIL
    0
    11 February 2015 14: 43
    This means that the French factories are fulfilling the contract, is it not time for the French to tear off the childbearing organ to their president, so that he does not go to his mistresses, and he thinks about his labors the shipyard, which is for the friendship between France and Russia.
  19. 0
    11 February 2015 14: 59
    Quote: Vladimirets
    And they, what was not done simultaneously with the Mistrals?


    Why? At the same time, after all, one ship is still under construction. And the boats, as I understand it, are made in 2's versions. Or small 4 pcs. to the ship (already loaded), or large (like this one) in 2 pcs. to the ship.
  20. 0
    11 February 2015 16: 29
    Is Russia really able to build such a tub?
  21. 0
    11 February 2015 16: 44
    now let them ride on it themselves, as well as on their Mistral laughing
  22. kelevra
    0
    11 February 2015 19: 17
    And why, like everything is in force with the Mistrals! To hell, chase grandmas!

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