The best foreign armor-piercing complexes

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It will not be a secret to anyone that many of the specimens, models, systems of the domestic, or more precisely, the Soviet defense industry, were rightfully considered the best weapons in the world. This applies not only to small arms (Kalashnikov assault rifles, Mosin rifles and others), but also armored vehicles and even missile systems. Russian "Chrysanthemums", "Bassoons" and "Metis" are used deserved success in the armed forces of many countries of the world. At the same time, it must be said that Western manufacturers of weapons may also surprise with their developments, which are in no way inferior, and in some cases may even be ahead of domestic weapons in their tactical and technical characteristics.

Today's realities are such that, thanks to the rapid growth of the defense industry of China, vigorous actions of the West, many states refuse to cooperate with Russia, including for purely political reasons. Therefore, the promotion of Russian weapons and armored vehicles is not going as we would like. It is precisely because of the possible potential buyers the main emphasis is on the armament of Western production. Therefore, we will further give examples of the main competitors of domestic ATGMs, which we mentioned in previous material.

The best foreign armor-piercing complexes


Thus, the most massive western development is the BGM-71 TOW, a universal ATGM, which can be mounted either on a tracked or wheeled vehicle chassis or installed in a stationary position. The complex was put into service in 1970 year. It uses semi-automatic, command guidance of the rocket, which is carried out by the operator. The BGM-71 TOW is one of the most common anti-tank systems in the world. In addition to American troops, is in service with a number of European armies and Israel.

This complex has a large number of modifications: BGM-71B, BGM-71C Improved TOW, BGM-71D TOW-2, BGM-71E TOW-2A, BGM-71F TOW-2B, TOW-2N, Aphsh, NGXXXX, NGXX, BGM-71F TOW, TOW-71B Aero, TOW-2B Aero, MAPATS.

To a certain extent, the American complex is similar to domestic ones (semi-automatic command control), but it costs much more expensive not only in operation, but also directly in production. The average cost of the BGM-71 TOW reaches 60 thousands of dollars, which is significant even for non-poor countries.

It is known that these American complexes were used in the Vietnam War 1957-1975, the Iran-Iraq military conflict 1980-1988, the Lebanese war 1982, during the Gulf War in 1990-1991, as well as during the UN peacekeeping operation in Somalia in 1992-1995, in the Iraq war 2003-2010.

In total, more than a thousand 700 missiles were produced, and over the 1999-2007 period alone, over a thousand anti-tank guided missiles were exported.



Also currently in the US Army, one of the most common armor-piercing systems is the FGM-148 Javelin ATGM, which was put into service in 1996. This complex is designed to destroy not only armored vehicles, but also protected objects, in particular, bunkers and pillboxes, as well as low-flying low-speed targets (drones, helicopters). This is the first production complex of the third generation with an infrared guidance system that provides work on the principle of "fire and forget".

The caliber of the missile complex is 127 mm, its length reaches almost 1,1 m, and its mass is 11,8 kg. The total weight of the complex is 22,25 kg. The complex can shoot at a distance from 50 m to 2,5 km with a maximum speed of 290 rocket meters per second. The rocket provides armor penetration in 70, see

Initially, the complex was developed to replace the M47 Dragon anti-tank missiles, which were in service with the American army before 1975. It is known that the total cost of the program for the development and production of the complex was 5 billion dollars, and the cost of one unit is close to 100 thousands of dollars, which makes FGM-148 Javelin the most expensive anti-tank systems for all history the existence of such weapons.

The FGM-148 Javelin missile is made according to the traditional aerodynamic scheme with expanding wings and is equipped with an infrared homing head and a tandem warhead. It can attack the target either directly or from above, which makes it possible to hit all modern species tanks. And due to the “soft descent” system, shooting from an enclosed space is possible.

Targeting ammunition is possible in difficult meteorological conditions, at any time of the day and in conditions of excessive smoke. At the same time, it is impossible to counteract a rocket using simple means of optical-electronic suppression, since the guidance system does not receive a modulated signal.

Due to the relatively small weight of the complex can be transferred over relatively long distances, but at the same time, its dimensions do not allow to move in the forest or shrub. After the complex is put into operation, the shot must be fired for a few minutes, as the product becomes consumed regardless of whether the shot was fired.



Another American-made anti-tank missile system - FGM-172 SRAW / Predator. It is designed to destroy battle tanks, lightly armored vehicles, as well as long-term defensive structures at a distance of up to 600 m.

The caliber of the rocket reaches 141,5 mm. The total weight of the complex is 9 kg, while the mass of the rocket reaches just over 3 kg.

This complex is a relatively inexpensive and lightweight disposable weapon with a simplified guidance system. The launch of the rocket is carried out by one person from the position “from the shoulder”.

Like the FGM-148 Javelin, it is equipped with a “soft” descent with a low level of smoke generation, infrared radiation and sound, which allows it to be used from closed rooms.

The FGM-172 SRAW consists of a transport and launch container, a rocket, an optical sight, and a launch mechanism.

It was developed to replace the M-136 and M-72 LAW anti-tank grenade launchers, which are in service with the American marines. It was assumed that this complex will complement FGM-148 Javelin.



In Europe, in the middle of the 70 of the last century, the United Kingdom, France and the Federal Republic of Germany began to work together to create a third-generation anti-tank missile system with an infrared guidance system. The result of their work was the emergence of a portable anti-tank missile complex TRIGAT MR, the purpose of which was to destroy armored targets at a distance of up to 2,2 km.

The launcher is equipped with a thermal sight, trigger, power source. The rocket is controlled by coded laser beam. The only action that the launcher operator performs during the shot is to hold the crosshair on the target. The operator can also change the target for the rocket during its flight.

The weight of the launcher of this complex is 17 kg, the mass of the missile is 15 kg with a length of 1045 cm and a diameter of 15,2 cm. The weight of the warhead reaches 5 kg. The range of the projectile ranges from 200 m to 2,4 km, and at the maximum distance it flies over 12 s.

The installation can be applied in the temperature range from -46 to + 63 degrees Celsius.

Later, the development of the complex in a helicopter version with a long-range missile (up to 5 km.) LR-TRIGAT was continued only by the Germans, ordering rockets of such power from the European concern MBDA 700 of such power to arm Tiger helicopters, all the rest of the customers of these machines refused the missiles.



It should also be noted that the concern MBDA continues to work on the production of a very popular second-generation MILAN anti-tank systems. This is a joint French-German anti-tank portable missile system, which was put into service in the 1972 year, gaining wide popularity in the world.

The complex includes a launcher (consists of an electronic unit, a sight, a power source and a control panel) and a launch container with a rocket. The total weight of the complex is 37,2 kg, the mass of the rocket reaches 6,73 kg, its length is 769 mm, and the wingspan is 26, see. The rocket launches at a speed of 75 meters per second, accelerating to the maximum at 200 meters per second. Flight range ranges from 25 m to 3 km, with armor penetration reaching 80 cm.

The complex has a number of modifications: Milan 2, Milan 2T, Milan 3, Milan ER.

MILAN used the forces of the anti-Iraqi coalition in the course of Operation Desert Storm, but the missiles of the complex were unable to penetrate the armor of the Iraqi T-55 tanks.

Currently, the complex is in service with 44 countries of the world, including the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Armenia, Belgium, Syria, Libya and India.



The French army today uses lightweight, portable Eryx anti-tank systems. This is a short-range complex, the main purpose of which is reduced to the destruction of tanks, fortifications and engineering structures, surface targets. Rocket launch is possible not only in the tripod machine, but also from the shoulder position. The complex is equipped with a semi-automatic command guidance system.

The total weight of the complex with a tripod reaches 15,8 kg, the mass of the rocket is 10,2 kg. The rocket length is 89,1 cm., Diameter - 13,6 cm. The rocket starts at a speed of 18 meters per second and reaches a maximum speed equal to 245 meters per second. The firing range ranges from 50 to 600 m, armor-piercing - 90 cm.

Currently, the complex is in service with the armies of Brazil, Canada, Norway, Turkey, Malaysia, France and Chad.



Another light short-range anti-tank missile system is made by the Swedish company Saab Bofors Dynamics. This is the RB-57 NLAW with inertial guidance system. This is a new generation complex, which is designed to destroy at a short range tanks and armored vehicles, equipped with dynamic protection. For its service only one person is needed. The total weight of the complex is 12 kg, the range of the missile ranges from 20 to 600 m, and the complex from marching to combat position is given in 5 seconds.

Defeat can be carried out not only frontally, but also from above. Possible start-up from enclosed spaces.



In Sweden, another portable anti-tank missile system is being produced, which at one time was the first anti-tank system capable of hitting targets from above. This is RBS-56 BILL. Its main purpose is reduced to the defeat of battle tanks, infantry armored vehicles, self-propelled artillery installations and other armored vehicles, as well as fortifications at a distance from 150 m to 2,2 km.

The striking properties of the rocket were improved by increasing the weight of the shaped charge and its diameter, as well as due to an unusual design and circuit design. The direction of the cumulative jet of the warhead is deflected from the longitudinal axis of the rocket by 30 degrees, and the flight path of the rocket passes above the guidance line to 1 m, which makes it possible to avoid encountering obstacles on the ground and hit the target from above.

The complex consists of a launcher on a tripod, height adjustable, a rocket in the launch canister, a sight. For his service, you need three people - the commander, operator and loader. 10-15 with. Perhaps firing from the position of "standing", "lying", "sitting", "from the knee."



A worthy competition to American manufacturers of portable and portable anti-tank missile systems are Israeli specialists. The most successful portable missile system is the Spike family. These are multifunctional anti-tank missile systems that are designed to destroy tanks, fortifications and engineering structures, as well as surface targets.

The complexes of this series have a firing range from 400 m to 8 km (Spike-ER), the weight of the missile is 9 kg, diameter - 17, see. The warhead is a tandem cumulative, weighs 3 kg. The rocket can reach speeds of the order of 130-180 meters per second.

The Spike complex has a number of modifications: Mini-Spike, Spike-SR, Spike-MR, Spike-LR, Spike-ER. Separately, it is necessary to single out the Spike NLOS variant, which uses an anti-electronic guided anti-tank missile with a range of up to 25 km. The weight of the complex is 71 kg.

All variants of the Spike complex have an infrared guidance system, which in some models is complemented by a control system via fiber optic cable. Due to this, in its technical characteristics, the Israeli complex is largely ahead of the American Javelin.

Currently, the complex is in service with many countries, in particular, France, Germany, Israel, Azerbaijan, Colombia, Chile, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland, Peru, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Ecuador, Finland, Romania.



Another Israeli anti-tank missile system, which is in service with the armed forces of Israel, and is also being exported - MAPATS, which was developed on the basis of the American TOW complex.

This complex was developed at the beginning of the 80-s. The developers faced the task of creating an anti-tank missile system for the Israeli army while aiming at a laser beam in order to expand the capabilities of the anti-tank missile system, which were guided by wire.

The weight of the rocket in the container is 29 kg, the starting weight of the charge is 18,5 kg, the mass of the warhead reaches 3,6 kg. The rocket has a length of 145, see. The total weight of the complex is equal to 66 kg. The rocket can fly a distance of 5 km with a maximum speed of 315 meters per second. At the same time armor penetration is 80 cm.



Its production of ATGM is in China. True, by and large, many Chinese complexes are copies of Soviet technology. Thus, the main anti-tank missile system in the Chinese army remains a modernized copy of the Soviet “Malyutka” complex. This is a HJ-73 equipped with a semi-automatic guidance system. This complex belongs to the first generation of ATGM, which were put into service in the Chinese army in 1979 year. It is used as a portable complex, and is also installed on infantry fighting vehicles, light car chassis.

For several decades, HJ-73 has been repeatedly upgraded in order to increase combat effectiveness and armor-piercing. The complex includes a controlled solid-fuel rocket, a launcher, and control equipment.

There are the following modifications of the complex: HJ-73B, HJ-73C. However, despite the modernization, in general, HJ-73 retained the drawbacks characteristic of its prototype: a low level of combat readiness, a low speed of a missile.

The rocket can cover the distance from 500 m to 3 km at a speed of 120 meters per second. The weight of the rocket reaches 11,3 kg, length - 86,8 cm, diameter - 12 cm. The armor resistance with such parameters is 50 cm. The weight of the launcher is 32 kg. To translate from marching to martial law, you need to spend almost 2 minutes.



In place of the HJ-73, the complex of the second generation HJ-8 was developed, which is a copy of the American TOW. The development of the complex began in the 1970 year, and it was only after 14 years that it passed the tests and was delivered to the troops. In the Chinese army, it is used as a portable complex, and it is also placed on infantry fighting vehicles, helicopters and light car chassis.

The complex includes a controlled solid-fuel rocket, a launcher, a telescopic sight, an infrared radiation receiver, as well as a calculating device and auxiliary equipment for maintaining the control system and testing the rocket’s health.

HJ-8 was repeatedly upgraded to improve the tactical and technical characteristics and, consequently, increase the accuracy and armor-piercing. Thus, the variants HJ-8A, HJ-8C, HJ-8E. Separately, it is necessary to note the latest modification of the complex - HJ-8L, which has the highest parameters of combat effectiveness and armor-piercing to 1. The new complex is equipped with a lightweight launcher with a periscope sight.

The complex in various modifications was exported to the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the African continent.



In parallel with the modernization of the Chinese complex HJ-8 in Pakistan, its counterpart (in fact, a copy) of Baktar Shikan was improved. Some changes were made to it in comparison with the original: a thermal sight was installed, the equipment for testing the performance of the complex was improved, its weight was reduced, and the warhead — a tandem cumulative one.

The maximum range of the missile is 3 km. Baktar Shikan is equipped with control equipment that allows you to automatically accompany the rocket along the line of sight of the target. For carrying the complex is disassembled into 4 parts (sighting unit - 12,5 kg, control unit -24 kg, launcher - 23 kg, rocket and container).

The complex can be placed on an off-road automobile chassis, it can be transported using helicopters and transport airplanes.



The American TOW complexes are also copied very successfully in Iran. This is a series of Toophan (Toophan-1 and Toophan-2) series with wire and laser controls, cumulative and tandem-cumulative warheads. The diameter of the missile complexes is 15,2 cm, length - 1,16 m. The weight of the projectile reaches 20 kg. The rocket is able to cover the distance to 3,5 km by day and 2,5 km at night at speeds up to 310 meters per second. In this case, its armor-piercing is 55-76, see.

A copy of another American Dragon (Saege) anti-tank missile system was made in Iran. M47 Dragon \ Saeghe was purchased in America in 1970 and used during the Iran-Iraq war. The complex is equipped with a semi-automatic missile control system, a cumulative warhead. The rocket can overcome the distance from 65 m to 1 km, while its armor-piercing is 50, see.

The creation of the Iranian version of the complex is an attempt to create a light portable anti-tank system, for which maintenance only one operator is needed, and which can be brought into combat as quickly as possible. At the same time, the missile complex has a small range and difficulties in controlling the projectile after launch. That is why currently this ATGM is in service with only certain Iranian special forces.



Iran makes copies of the Soviet “Malyutka” complex - Raad anti-tank systems (with a manual missile control system, a cumulative warhead, 40 cm armor-piercing, a firing range from 400 m to 3 km). In addition, there is the Iranian version of the Russian Konkurs-M ATGM - Tosan. At the moment, this particular complex is the most common anti-tank missile system, along with the American TOW and Iranian Toophan.



Tosan is equipped with a semi-automatic missile control system, the warhead is tandem-cumulative, its weight is 3,2 kg. The caliber of the rocket is 135 mm. Rocket armor penetration according to various data is 67-80, see. The rocket can cover distances from 70 m to 4 km in the daytime and to 2,5 km at night and using a thermal sight.

There are theoretically powerful ATGMs in India. This is a third-generation anti-tank missile system with an infrared guidance system Nag. It was created in 1990 year to deal with existing and promising tanks and armored vehicles. Able to operate at a distance of 6 km. The launcher has an aiming system, hydraulic guidance drives. The complex is located on the chassis of the Russian BIP-1 and is equipped with a tandem-cumulative warhead, active radar or thermal imaging head. It is possible to place additional missiles inside the armored corps.

Thus, it is quite obvious that there are enough arms and military equipment manufacturers in the world, and if you don’t want to or cannot work with Russia, you can buy the same ATGM in America, in Europe or in China, Iran, and so on. d.

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  2. +7
    9 February 2015 07: 51
    Great article! The only thing, all the same, it would be nice to compare them with our best samples
    1. +7
      9 February 2015 08: 07
      In most tenders, Spike defeated Javelin. The last tender was in India worth more than a billion dollars, lasted several years, won Spike. In Poland, licensed production is organized.
      1. 0
        9 February 2015 15: 27
        Quote: Chignoner
        In most tenders, Spike defeated Javelin.

        It is understandable. I don’t know about the price, it seems to me that the price is much cheaper than Jeweline.
        Who is in the subject, explain, it turns out that Spike has a duplicated FCS-opto-electronic and wire? if so, then generally wonderful.
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    2. Pervusha Isaev
      -3
      9 February 2015 17: 12
      What is a spike?
    3. +1
      10 February 2015 00: 15
      Quote: Dangerous
      Great article! The only thing, all the same, it would be nice to compare them with our best samples

      And ATGMs of the 3rd generation, France, Japan, China, and in the domestic "phalanx", the "competition" forgot, and the "cobra" of Germany, and the Svidomo line, and the barrel "lasso" for example, and the "assault", and the brothers Belarusians with a "hornet", and helicopter, and the Serbian "bumblebee", and the products of South Africa, and the Indians crumpled?
  3. +4
    9 February 2015 07: 53
    In addition, there is an Iranian version of the Russian ATGM Competition-M - Tosan.

    ... as well as a copy of the ATGM Cornet.
    1. +1
      9 February 2015 15: 29
      Quote: professor
      ... as well as a copy of the ATGM Cornet.

      licensed at least? or as always stooped?
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  4. +5
    9 February 2015 08: 14
    Very peaceful Americans - only TOW more than 700 thousand missiles. It’s so possible to shoot even at a single soldier. fellow
  5. +3
    9 February 2015 08: 37
    Where are ours? TTX comparison chart would also be nice request look.
  6. Tanks
    0
    9 February 2015 08: 47
    Interestingly, the kaz from Almaty will appear on t72 / 90, or is its tower not suitable for it?
  7. +7
    9 February 2015 08: 56
    The author forgot to mention that the HJ-8 anti-tank systems and the BGM-71 TOW are used by rebels in Syria quite successfully, which has video evidence.
    Still. The author also did not indicate that modern ATGMs Javelin and Spike (optional) have an automatic guidance system on the basis of a shot-and-forget principle, allowing the operator to launch out of sight of the target and immediately change position. This is as if important because in fact this is a new generation of anti-tank guided munitions ... hence the high price.
    1. +9
      9 February 2015 09: 00
      Quote: Nayhas
      The author also did not indicate that modern ATGMs Javelin and Spike (optional) have an automatic guidance system based on the principle of shot-and-forget, allowing the operator to launch without the visibility of the target and immediately change position after launch.

      You're wrong. Javelin does not allow to shoot without preliminary capture of the target. hi
      1. Wick
        +7
        9 February 2015 09: 44
        That's right. Search for the target occurs through the (CLU-command launch unit) and capture of the target occurs through the guidance head of the missile itself. Without Target capture, the rocket will simply fly at max range.
      2. 0
        9 February 2015 11: 18
        Quote: professor
        You're wrong. Javelin does not allow to shoot without preliminary capture of the target.

        And after capturing the target, the operator can hide behind cover / step aside and launch the rocket and, without waiting for the result, topple away until it is covered with something heavy ...
        1. +2
          9 February 2015 13: 30
          Come on ? to capture the target with Javelin, and then move behind the hill, hut and bang in that direction? Hardly.
          1. +3
            9 February 2015 13: 35
            I also doubt his ability to hit the target, if it BEFORE the launch has disappeared from sight (drove into the house, descended into a ravine, etc.)
        2. 0
          9 February 2015 13: 42
          Quote: Nayhas
          And after capturing the target, the operator can hide behind cover / step aside and launch the rocket and, without waiting for the result, topple away until it is covered with something heavy ...

          It's true.
        3. Wick
          +2
          9 February 2015 20: 20
          As soon as the target is captured, a rocket launch should occur, a sudden movement can disrupt the capture. Secondly, the shooter has only 150 seconds after capturing the target for a shot; if there is no shot, the battery on the rocket will run out and the rocket is no longer suitable for launch.
          1. -2
            10 February 2015 08: 06
            Quote: Wick
            As soon as the target is captured, a rocket launch should occur, a sudden movement can disrupt the capture. Secondly, the shooter has only 150 seconds after capturing the target for a shot; if there is no shot, the battery on the rocket will run out and the rocket is no longer suitable for launch.

            We replace the battery and go into battle.
            1. Wick
              0
              10 February 2015 23: 01
              They are only available at service centers. To replace it, you must send the entire missile to the rear. You can watch the target for hours, but as soon as the seeker turns on for 2 minutes per shot, otherwise the $ 75000 rocket becomes a dead weight.
              1. -1
                11 February 2015 08: 35
                Quote: Wick
                They are only available at service centers. To replace it, you must send the entire missile to the rear.

                No, this is not so. Here is the Javelin instruction manual.
                http://www.scribd.com/doc/36176275/TM-91425-688-10-M98-Javelin-Weapon-System#scr

                ibid

                1. Wick
                  +2
                  11 February 2015 09: 30
                  I read the instructions it only says how to change it. But in reality, one rocket with one battery comes. Spare to them did not provide. At the moment, only in the rear there are these batteries if you are lucky. And change it is 30 seconds.
                  1. 0
                    11 February 2015 09: 33
                    I did not check the presence of a battery in the troops, if necessary I can check. The principle is important here: the battery is dead - it can be quickly changed.
                    1. +1
                      11 February 2015 14: 24
                      What about the refrigerant? reserve too?
                      1. Wick
                        0
                        15 February 2015 08: 38
                        The refrigerant is in the guidance device and on the rocket.
                      2. +1
                        15 February 2015 08: 51
                        Quote: Tlauicol
                        What about the refrigerant? reserve too?

                        The battery consists of two parts, the actual battery and a gas cylinder:
                  2. oksanamcarevush
                    0
                    17 February 2015 16: 36
                    not true - there are spare batteries - but they do not go to all kits
  8. +1
    9 February 2015 09: 13
    good article - thanks!
  9. home
    +8
    9 February 2015 09: 24
    It turned out funny, the article begins with the words "and for whom it will not be a secret that many copies, models, systems of the domestic, or rather, the Soviet defense industry, were rightfully considered the best weapons in the world. This applies not only to small arms (Kalashnikov assault rifles, rifles Mosin and others) "and in one of the pictures we see a group of comrades from Latin America, armed with mosinks. :)
  10. +5
    9 February 2015 10: 22
    while armor penetration reaches 80 см... MILAN used the forces of the anti-Iraq coalition during Operation Desert Storm, but the missiles of the complex were not able to penetrate the armor of Iraqi tanks T-55.

    How's that? what While the frontal armor of the T-54 / T-55 does not exceed 120 mm.
    And to designate armor penetration as the actual thickness of the armor in centimeters is, in my opinion, not quite true.
  11. +2
    9 February 2015 12: 27
    The best foreign armor-piercing complexes
    Almost better than ours ...

    1. gjvjom
      0
      April 1 2015 10: 11
      ha ha ha! it happens
  12. +3
    9 February 2015 19: 55
    ATGMs are positioned as a relatively cheap anti-tank weapon for poor countries (like mortars - artillery for the poor). How the American systems, which are by no means cheap, meet this criterion, I personally cannot imagine. Also, interestingly "Javelins" and "Spikes" are actually as highly effective as the accolades they receive. For me, their characteristics (especially the American ATGM) look fantastic, to put it mildly, they are too frankly advertising in nature. Yes, such a large warhead weight of "Javelin" in 3/4 of the total weight of the rocket looks like a mockery of common sense - it turns out the weight of the warhead + the weight of the rocket body = ATGM, how much does the rocket engine and control system weigh ... Riddle !!! lol
  13. +2
    9 February 2015 21: 53
    Quote: Alexander72
    And also, interestingly "Javelins" and "Spikes" are really as highly effective as praise for them.

    Of course effective, especially when there is no counter-intervention system. Unfortunately this is from the topic until the fried bird rises and hollows out half the 5th point, everything will remain at the level of ideas and sketch.
    If we analyze the philosophy of using "Spike", then we get the order of the IDF in its pure form. Dreams of the Israeli military designers have come true. For specific conflicts, it is better not to invent a weapon. You have learned the place of the cache, you do not need to risk people from a safe distance, we send a rocket. Received information about the movement of the gang leader, please, the rocket will hit the car. Everything was canceled at the last moment, the self-liquidator is at your service.
    But if this is a full-fledged military conflict, then everything will change and the advertising will not tell you about it.
  14. +1
    10 February 2015 19: 58
    Quote: CERHJ
    Since the IR GOS Javelina works in that part of the IR spectrum. It is called thermal imaging in everyday life. And it (this reptile!) Is not affected by fogs (water condensate). Weights (sandstorms in Iraq, Abrams saw Iraqi tanks for 5 km in the thermal imager)

    If such a noise-tolerant spectrum existed, there would be a revolution in wireless data transmission. If you read the brochures of mattresses, contrary to the laws of physics, a lot of work for them. But more fundamental science is believed.
  15. +1
    10 February 2015 22: 56
    This is the atmospheric transmission curve. In other words, what nature tells us. In the range from 8 to 12 microns, in which the Javelina matrix radiation detector works, as you can see, not everything is perfect. And then you need to refine the water. For example, if you dissolve a little copper sulfate in water, then its property will increase. This technique is used in industry where it is necessary to prevent the heating of an object by infrared radiation. It may be possible to create another chemical with better performance. And this is just a passive counteraction system.
    The international arms market will be saturated with these complexes and sooner or later the problem will have to be solved.
    Quote: CERHJ
    read the Hansa, they write there people who make these heaps, the chief designer. and at the same time, the hosts of IWT, a leading company in Russia
    And what can you hear from these people? Like we created an absolute thing.
    Anyone who creates a counteraction system will throw a firm for a good amount.
  16. +1
    13 February 2015 22: 25
    They were considered the best .. WHOM were they considered? Half-working from CA? Tested competitors? Yes, there are objectively SOME examples of the really BEST type, because they simply have no analogues. However, is it all cloudless. Advertising is the engine of trade - what PR talkers of all stripes from the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation are doing. Today, in a period of obvious technological lag in the domestic industry, is there any reason to talk obvious nonsense? It’s better to keep silent.
  17. 0
    23 February 2015 21: 47
    Quote: TOR2
    And then you need to refine the water. For example, if a little copper sulfate is dissolved in water, then its property will increase. This technique is used in industry where it is necessary to prevent the heating of any object by infrared radiation. It may be possible to create another chemical substance with better performance. And this is just a passive counteraction system.

    And when using this counteraction system, there should be quiet, calm weather and the tank should not move and maneuver under fire.
    Or do you have ideas on how to make the aerosol cloud move with the tank? Special grips there, with blue vitriol or something else?)
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    28 February 2015 16: 41
    We would not hurt!