Deputies of the DPR adopted a memorandum that the DPR is the legal successor of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic

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The People’s Council of the Donetsk People’s Republic adopted a decree according to which the DPR is the successor of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic. This is with reference to the head of the People’s Council of the DPR, Andrey Purgin, reported by the news agency DAN:

This is a political document on the succession of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog and Donetsk republics. We feel that we are a part of the historical construct that was proclaimed in 1917 (1918) year.


Deputies of the DPR adopted a memorandum that the DPR is the legal successor of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic


From the memorandum adopted by the DPR Parliament:
We proclaim the continuation of the traditions of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic and declare that the State of Donetsk People's Republic is its successor. We call for the cooperation and unification of efforts to build a new federal state on a voluntary contractual basis between the people and the territory of Ukraine, which were part of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic, as well as other areas that expressed their consent to become equal subjects of the federation.


Andrey Purgin:
This memorandum is not a legislative act, but a political perspective of state-building before the celebration of the anniversary of the official legalization of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic, which is the roots of the DPR.


For your information:
Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic was proclaimed on February 12 1918 in Kharkov. The republic included territories that today correspond to the Donetsk, Luhansk, partly Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhya, Sumy, Kherson, and Nikolaev regions of Ukraine, and also partly the Rostov region of the Russian Federation. According to some reports, the flag of the DKR was a black-blue-red tricolor.

In March, 1918 of the year became part of the Ukrainian Socialist Republic. In February 1919, the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic de jure ceased to exist.
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  1. -55
    6 February 2015 18: 43
    What for? Is there nothing more to do, how to make such important and relevant decisions? They have an enemy sitting under their noses and shelling cities, and they are sitting. They should beat Avdeevka’s assault rifle on their neck and on, and then they must take memoranda after the victory.
    1. +63
      6 February 2015 18: 45
      And why the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Soviet Republic is worse than Kosovo, and not what, here there are legal grounds to say Ukraine-dosvidos


      Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Soviet Republic (DKSR) - the Soviet republic within the RSFSR, created on the territory of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih basin. In March 1918 it became a part of the Socialist Republic of Ukraine and was proclaimed on February 12, 1918 at the 4th Regional Congress of Soviets of Workers' Deputies of the Donetsk and Krivorozhsky Basins in Kharkov.
      The borders of the republic were outlined in the appeal of the Council of People's Commissars of the DKSR from 6.04.1918.

      The republic included the territory of the Kharkov and Yekaterinoslav provinces (entirely), part of the Kryvyi Rih of the Kherson province, part of the districts of the Tauride province (to the Crimean Isthmus) and the adjacent industrial (coal) regions of the Don Army area along the Rostov-Likhaya railway line (virtually the entire Left Bank ) Now it is the current Donetsk, Lugansk, Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhzhya regions, as well as partially Kharkov, Sumy, Kherson, Nikolaev and Russian Rostov.
      The capital of the republic was Kharkov, then Lugansk.
      1. WKS
        -21
        6 February 2015 19: 46
        Quote: herruvim
        For your information:
        Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic was proclaimed on February 12, 1918 in Kharkov. The republic included territories that today correspond to Donetsk, Lugansk, partially Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhya, Sumy, Kherson and Nikolaev regions of Ukraine, as well as partially the Rostov region of the Russian Federation.

        So you look and we part of the Rostov region chop off ...
        1. Am
          0
          6 February 2015 20: 32
          Yeah, then only after one hint they will disappear, just as they appeared.
          1. -16
            6 February 2015 22: 05
            Hmm ... definitely, the logic in your words is. How Pu is a traitor, we will find out from today's meeting with Merkel. (Hollande I do not think so ...).
            And then, we find out through ... but in Debaltseve promptness is needed. Mr. President.
            1. +8
              7 February 2015 03: 33
              DKR is already good, almost all the territory is needed, only Odessa is not enough (and it does not reach Transnistria):
        2. +9
          6 February 2015 22: 24
          read carefully
          Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Soviet Republic (DKSR) - the Soviet republic as part of the RSFSR

          hi
          1. +6
            7 February 2015 05: 10
            The machine gun on their neck and forth .. ..a then you need to accept memoranda after the victory.


            To win, you need to understand and accept what you are fighting for, and not run like an idiot with a gun on your neck ...
        3. +1
          7 February 2015 06: 23
          if at the same time Novorossia becomes part of Russia - why not?
        4. 0
          7 February 2015 06: 56
          What are you about. They will join us, and the Ukrainian border will move west.
      2. -7
        6 February 2015 19: 49
        Quote: herruvim
        And why the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Soviet Republic is worse than Kosovo, and not what, here there are legal grounds to say Ukraine-dosvidos


        Do not understand?! Specify where you saw - dosvidos? Read with your mind, not your eyes !!!
        I quote: "....... as well as other regions that have expressed their consent to become equal subjects of the federation." Right?
        Tell me, do they want to be part of the Ukrainian Federation? Why is it not talking about the desire to create an independent federal state and which? What, they throw a present and in the Rostov region?
      3. +10
        6 February 2015 20: 44
        In 1918 it looked impressive. To these borders, oh, how ....
        1. +5
          6 February 2015 21: 46
          Odessa forgot
          1. 3axap
            +10
            6 February 2015 22: 22
            Quote: The Cat
            Odessa forgot

            It is Odessa who forgot who she is and with whom. hi
    2. +36
      6 February 2015 18: 55
      The republic included territories that today correspond to Donetsk, Lugansk, partially Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhya, Sumy, Kherson and Nikolaev regions

      Oh, I feel it’s not in vain that this statement was made by Purgin right now. Explicitly with Moscow. It’s not for nothing that the geyropeys, in the person of Frau and the paddling pool, rushed to Putin to bow; they see a big chucher who sees it.
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      2. +3
        6 February 2015 19: 28
        Here is a sample DKR map. We will have to part with the Taganrog and the Sea of ​​Azov. And what to do? True, on the map Donetsk appears Yuzovka.
        1. +6
          6 February 2015 20: 53
          Hmm .... Why do we need to part with the Taganrog and the Sea of ​​Azov? Well, everything is only based on referenda ... winked
      3. +8
        6 February 2015 20: 17
        100% agree. So the goals are defined, we are waiting for the further growth of the Republic.
        1. Viktor Kudinov
          +4
          7 February 2015 01: 26
          It remains to hold referendums throughout Ukraine - which territories remain in it, which ones go to Donetsk-Krivorozhskaya, which they wish to Poland, Hungary, etc. And - to fulfill the will of the people of the territories. feel
    3. soyuz-nik
      +11
      6 February 2015 18: 59
      Hello, Dear!
      I will not pass, but in this matter I do not agree with you. Work for the future and ideology is important .... hi
      1. -3
        6 February 2015 19: 15
        Quote: soyuz-nik
        Hello, Dear!
        I will not pass, but in this matter I do not agree with you. Work for the future and ideology is important .... hi

        I can’t disagree, but work for the future and ideology need not be dealt with by a crowd of healthy men in wartime, but in a slightly different way wink
        1. +1
          6 February 2015 21: 27
          But as ? Chicherin also went to civilian clothes in a C grade. And he did things in the interests of the revolutionary sailors and the working peasantry. Well done. Summed up, so to speak, an ideological basis for a crowd of healthy men in wartime.
        2. soyuz-nik
          +2
          7 February 2015 09: 59
          Good health, I wish!
          Do you deny a crowd of healthy men in the activities of ideology and for the future? Or in a trench, mud, sweat and blood, talking "for life", ordinary hardworking men (and women too) cannot express their opinion on politics, power, history, etc. and thus take your feasible participation? hi
    4. +12
      6 February 2015 19: 10
      Quote: MooH
      Is there nothing more to do, how to make such important and relevant decisions?

      Why this is done and what legal consequences it may have, I don’t know, time will tell.
      And time is a perspective, a future, which, in turn, for the Donbass, largely depends on the meeting of the European troika in the Kremlin ...
      Hollande and Merkel came to Putin for a "label on reign" in Europe
      Today's meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel aroused logical interest from the general public.
      In fact, why did the leaders of the two largest European countries, representatives of the EU “locomotives", come to our country themselves? Is it just to try to reanimate the corpse of the Minsk agreements that were burned in the fire in the Donbass? Or in order to present Putin with the ultimatum agreed with Poroshenko?
      It seems to me that the main reason for the meeting is Hollande and Merkel’s sincere interest in the well-being of their own political destiny, as well as an attempt to work out some more or less mutually acceptable world order in Europe.
      Simply put, Hollande and Merkel came to bow to the man on whom the political future of Europe and its liberation from the American dictate depend today. Following the meeting, the Ukrainian leadership can expect a number of unpleasant surprises ...
      Do Hollande and Merkel have leverage over Russia? Of the strong - almost none. Sanctions did not bring the expected effect, on the contrary, they became a catalyst for integration processes in Eurasia and the BRICS countries, and also spurred the modernization and mobilization of Russian industry, science and society. Oil price has reached the bottom of the fall - but in the last two weeks it has returned to the mark of 60 dollars (it will probably overcome this threshold today). For some reason, the population of Russia turned out to be much less sensitive to economic losses than calculated.
      On the contrary, today Putin is able to destroy the career of both Hollande and Merkel. Let's start with Hollande. If he doesn’t agree with Putin, France risks multibillion-dollar losses and stagnation in three critical sectors - the military-industrial complex, nuclear energy and agriculture. The failure of the Mistral supply contract means that France is losing all prospects of the possibility of concluding any major contracts for at least 4-5 years, is losing the multi-billion dollar contract for the supply of Rafal fighters to India and is beginning to experience significant difficulties in its nuclear energy, which largely depends on supplies from Russia. Hundreds of thousands of people will be thrown into the street. If Hollande does not agree with Putin, then already in the spring, tens of thousands of farms in France will go bankrupt, followed by a certain number of banks lending to them. All this, taken together, will provoke a large-scale social and economic crisis, the winner of which will be Marine Le Pen, who will win the presidential election in three years. And so she would not spare Hollande - the blessing is there are sins for him.
      1. +10
        6 February 2015 19: 13
        Quote: Corsair
        Why this is done and what legal consequences it may have, I don’t know, time will tell.
        And time is a perspective, a future, which, in turn, for the Donbass, largely depends on the meeting of the European troika in the Kremlin ...



        Merkel is not in the best position - German industrialists are pushing her, who are categorically against the deterioration of relations with Russia and the loss of not only the market, but also mutually developing ties, both industrial and scientific. In addition, German energy is firmly planted on the needle of Russian gas. Now in Germany, there is also a rapid rapprochement between the SPD and the LPG on the basis of Merkel’s refusal to love the “pro-Nazi Kiev regime” - this means that if there is no miracle, the CDU / CSU will lose the Bundestag elections, and Merkel will change, for example, rapidly gaining political weight, Sarah Wagenknecht.
        That’s why Hollande and Merkel came to Moscow just to bow: normalization of relations with Russia is primarily needed by the European Union, which otherwise might simply not survive the impending “ideal storm” of the global financial and economic crisis. Russia, for the development of mutually beneficial relations, has whole Eurasia and Latin America.
        So - no matter what communiqué would be announced at the end of the meeting, the main thing, apparently, will remain “behind the scenes” for a long time, in special custody and archives. Today, with a very high probability, far from the NSA's ears, a new Europe is being born in Moscow - Europe for Europeans, and not for Uncle Sam and his Kiev puppets.

        Sergey Zagatin
        1. +14
          6 February 2015 21: 42
          It seems to me that talking with this grandmother of GDP is more pleasant ...
        2. lg41
          0
          7 February 2015 14: 11
          The well-known American billionaire financier George Soros did not agree to give Ukraine one billion dollars of his funds, urging the EU to allocate “billions of euros” to it.
          "Ukraine, plus the hardships of the war, is on the verge of a financial collapse. If this happens, the EU will lose Ukraine. The EU must take immediate financial measures to prevent this collapse," Soros said.
          “Ukraine now is what the EU should be”.
    5. Denis fj
      +14
      6 February 2015 19: 11
      ABOUT! How timely! Today negotiations will begin negotiations on the fate of Ukraine and the Donbass with Merkel-Hollande. Now the object of bargaining will be the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic, and not its tiny part.
      1. +1
        6 February 2015 19: 33
        Quote: denis fj
        Today negotiations will begin negotiations on the fate of Ukraine and the Donbass with Merkel-Hollande.



        The position of the West in anticipation of negotiations in Moscow and the Munich Conference:


        I'm sorry, but there is no translation into Russian.



    6. Denis fj
      +10
      6 February 2015 19: 12
      The creation of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic is absolutely the right decision, I would like to return the old name of the capital of Donbass-Stalin.
      1. 3axap
        -3
        6 February 2015 19: 45
        Quote: Denis fj
        The creation of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic is absolutely the right decision, I would like to return the old name of the capital of Donbass-Stalin.

        The League would not be liberating, from the Nazis, the war did not develop into an aggressive one, because it is not visible on those territories the desire or desire to get rid of the dictatorship of the Junta. hi
    7. +1
      6 February 2015 19: 53
      Really, what for? A cart in front of a horse? Hope other areas rise? I doubt it !!!!
      1. Am
        +1
        6 February 2015 20: 39
        Maybe they would have risen, but a living example is too frightening.
      2. +6
        6 February 2015 21: 48
        There will be an official and legitimate reason to move on, and not just to the borders of the DPR
    8. +1
      6 February 2015 20: 35
      The true history of Ukraine
      http://blog.i.ua/user/2485592/795322/
    9. +6
      6 February 2015 21: 34
      Machine gun on their neck and forward Avdeevka beat off

      Well, quickly only forum posts are written. And the idea with the DKR is needed in order to ideologically justify the increase in the borders of LDNR towards Kharkov and the Dnieper.
    10. +2
      6 February 2015 22: 16
      This gives rise to patriotism and faith in people.
    11. 0
      7 February 2015 01: 14
      Quote: MooH
      What for? Is there nothing more to do, how to make such important and relevant decisions? They have an enemy sitting under their noses and shelling cities, and they are sitting. They should beat Avdeevka’s assault rifle on their neck and on, and then they must take memoranda after the victory.

      If you’re so smart, what’s the breeder here? Sofa troops?
    12. 0
      7 February 2015 05: 20
      the comment was added, although the memorandum is necessary, but what do you think about pensions there? since July, no one has given anything out, or do you think the enemy will start paying you for it, you force the old people to drag their kopecks across the front line ..., do not spoil the "idea", b ... d,
      why the hell are you sitting there, establishing a peaceful life at least in the rear, even though the rumor goes that they started paying somewhere, do you collect taxes? where is the money ... is anyone looking for buyers for coal ???
      Does anyone deal with den. translations ?? - for translations, take as an example the experience of Arabs and Mujahideen in Pakistan (for transfers from the United States), one normal news is the free circulation of foreign currencies, it's high time ... You at least pay pensions in rubles, at least some kind of allowance .. .
      with humanitarian aid, to hell with who can’t get it for months, and who gets it four times ...
    13. ADK57
      +3
      7 February 2015 10: 56
      How is this "navigation"?
      The United States begins to privatize the energy sector of Ukraine. Purgin's statement reminds the junta led by the United States of the illegality of this privatization (in particular, the Zaporizhzhya atomic).
      For Russia, the privatization of ZaNPP is Crimea without electricity, and for Novorossia, it is completely dependent on the United States.
  2. +13
    6 February 2015 18: 45
    Application for separation from the rest of the dill. drinks
    1. +8
      6 February 2015 19: 11
      Quote: biron
      Application for separation from the rest of the dill.

      Yes And a signal to the population of neighboring areas.
  3. +8
    6 February 2015 18: 45
    A bit unexpected move. This is a hint - "We are waiting!"
    1. +15
      6 February 2015 19: 02
      Adoption of the Memorandum on the Foundations of State-Building (Ministry of Information of the DPR)

  4. +5
    6 February 2015 18: 46
    In general, a distinction has been made, which areas can fruitfully cooperate with the Russian Federation or enter into its structure in the future, and which are not needed at all. Odessa only need to be added.
    1. +4
      6 February 2015 18: 56
      Odessa to Transnistria !!!
    2. +2
      6 February 2015 19: 10
      FROM KHARKOV TO TRANSNISTRIA !!!!
  5. +14
    6 February 2015 18: 49
    BIS!!!! And BISS again !!! First Naryshkin about the occupation of the Federal Republic of Germany, and now Purgin about the Donetsk-Krivozh Republic! Give Alaska !!!
    1. wef
      +2
      7 February 2015 11: 27
      to the article about Alaska.

      Yatsenyuk runs into the White House Oval Office:
      - Mr. President, Mr. President !!! I just called the Kremlin, as you ordered me ... I tell them: Give Crimea back, oaths! Otherwise, it will be bad for you !!! .. And Putin answered: "Fuck you, big-eared! .. And call again - you will pay rent for 60 years !!!" ... Call him, tell him not to call him names. ..
      Obama listened gloomily and exploded:
      - Go to the ass, EAR !!! !!! .. I already called yesterday ... Do you know how much they put me for Alaska !?
  6. +1
    6 February 2015 18: 49
    Pay attention to how Purgin resembles Budanov, he was also from the Donbass.
  7. +1
    6 February 2015 18: 52
    We are preparing the recognition of New Russia. And there it will reach Odessa with Dnepropetrovsk. Also once entered the Yekaterinoslav province
  8. +1
    6 February 2015 18: 53
    It would be better if the DNI and the LC were unified. And where Putin is looking. Still would fall into 20 republics. Some boobies, but real patriots perish for them, and they themselves merge them. soldier I would have squeezed them in a vice, immediately would have been numb. good
    1. +3
      6 February 2015 19: 24
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      I would have squeezed them in a vice, immediately would have been numb.

      so what to write about this? ... go there with a vise, well, or with pliers ... and press ....
    2. Am
      +2
      6 February 2015 20: 41
      Let's go talk nonsense. Let Donbass at first plainly wave it off with Lugansk ....
  9. soyuz-nik
    +1
    6 February 2015 18: 55
    Good health, I wish!
    I offer Novorossiys another format:

    Ukrainian Federal Republic (New Russia)

    Variants are also possible (theirs is theirs). Moreover, I believe that the format of the Federal Republic should be preserved, and the Ukrainian and FRN (Fed. Rep. Novorossiya) or other formats can vary.

    This will allow the DPR and LPR to become the backbone for Kharkov and other areas to join them.

    In this formula, the term "Ukrainian" will make it possible to establish competition for Kiev Ukraine, i.e. the split of Ukraine into two Ukraine is legalized, and not into Ukraine and Novorossia, which will save face for an external user, although, perhaps, residents of the LPR and DPR may already feel sick of the word "Ukraine".

    In any case, I propose as an option.

    For the purpose of counter-propaganda, I propose to Kuev's thesis "Ukraine is overwhelmed" the thesis "Man is overwhelmed". hi
    1. +16
      6 February 2015 19: 11
      Comrade, republics and their inhabitants do not want to have anything in common with Ukraine and Ukrainian. Only Novorossia, only Russia!
      1. +3
        6 February 2015 20: 26
        Quote: vostok1982
        Comrade, republics and their inhabitants do not want to have anything in common with Ukraine and Ukrainian. Only Novorossia, only Russia!

        Wait, wait ... stop
        Yes, the Nazis did it, it will be hard to "grow together".
        But enter the position of Russia, it cannot recognize or join the DPR and LPR so easily, just as it would not be desirable ...
        Yes, and Ukraine does not need Russia fragmented, when one part of the (small) DNI and LC is friendly, and the majority is hostile. With all the ensuing ...

        We'll have to somehow "rub in" and get along with Ukraine, but I UNDERLINE, Ukraine is denationalized ...
        1. +5
          6 February 2015 23: 02
          Ukraine, by definition, cannot be denationalized. It can be dissected and one of its parts must bear the burden of Nazism until the end of eternity. In the end, Galicia gave birth to Bandera, even if they are blown away. And let Little Russia and New Russia be independent friendly republics, such as Belarus. And in Novorossia there should not be anything Ukrainian - only the Russian language and the history of Novorossia in schools and institutes. And Little Russia let it as they want - even bilingualism, the history of Little Russia and all that.
      2. soyuz-nik
        +1
        7 February 2015 10: 19
        Good health, I wish!
        Dear vostok1982! I adhere to the "criticize-suggest" principle.
        Option Ukrainian Federal Republic, or if you want, Ukrainian Federation, in my opinion, there is a good platform for creating competition for Ukraine in its former format, which many of the camarads do not call b / Ukraine otherwise.
        That's the trick (in my opinion) that the format Ukrainian Federation declares its federal format (which implies greater freedom for its constituent parts, for example, the same LPR, which in turn can become a "carrot" for potential members - Kharkov, Zaporozhye, etc.), and on the other hand retains " the brand "Ukraine, from which it may already creak its teeth, but nevertheless the preservation of this brand will not be a painful change for hesitant (undecided) subjects who are accustomed to associate themselves (maybe even out of habit) with Ukraine, and call themselves as Ukrainians.
        The idea of ​​the "Ukrainian Federation" is, perhaps, unfortunately, a continuation of the old policy of competition between the social camp and the capital camp: there is Ukraine in its old format, and there is a new Ukraine in the format of the Ukrainian Federation (and Ukrainian Federation should become a cozy home for everyone, regardless of nationality, except, of course, Bandera, Wahobism and other abominations), and its constitution can specify an additional name, for example, the Constitution of Kazakhstan states that the terms Kazakhstan and the Republic of Kazakhstan are identical. Therefore, you can try to put together Ukrainian Federation with the term New Russia, i.e. to establish that these terms are a designation of the same state. This is the same principle as the principle of bilingualism. hi
        1. +1
          7 February 2015 11: 23
          Having retained Ukrainians in the Novorossiysk Federation in at least some form, we ourselves, with our own hands, will raise the grain of nationalism-Bendery. And they will ascend necessarily, already verified. Let the Ukrainian Federation call itself a stub near Lviv. New Russia should become New Russia, a purely Russian territory with Russian history and language. Little Russia may become Russian-Little Russia.
  10. +3
    6 February 2015 18: 58
    A very good message from the DPR to other regions of Ukraine, with the words: Donbass are ready to unite with you, rise to the fight against "Dill - fascists".
  11. +4
    6 February 2015 18: 58
    my Rostov region before itself would join itself both Donetsk and Lugansk And other areas, but, NEVER we will be part of any other formation or country except our native Russia! fool angry fool
    1. Am
      0
      6 February 2015 20: 43
      Never, are you really ... on emotions or what?
    2. 0
      6 February 2015 22: 56
      First, create the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic - then "wholesale" to Russia.
      About the fact that the rest of Ukraine will be offended-complete nonsense. The Soviet Union collapsed and what ??? Did Belarusians become our sworn enemies ???
  12. +1
    6 February 2015 19: 00
    Everything returns to normal.
  13. 0
    6 February 2015 19: 09
    So it is not far to "Gardariki", and America will be returned to the Vikings.
  14. 0
    6 February 2015 19: 09
    I think it’s not just said so.
    Donetsk is preparing to storm the link, but has heard a lot of comments on it before that lawyers are seriously working on constitutional issues and state-building.
    Apparently the legislative process has begun. This is crucial.
  15. +1
    6 February 2015 19: 13
    Zakharchenko said that the DPR will reach the borders of the Donetsk Republic. Now it turns out that the DPR will go further because considers its territory and other parts of the former Ukraine. What is it for? what Maybe the DNI and LC are now really more powerful than the Armed Forces and the Natsik?
    1. wef
      0
      7 February 2015 11: 54
      All right said Zakharchenko. To the borders of the republic and not the Donetsk region.
  16. 3axap
    +5
    6 February 2015 19: 17
    The news was not very expected. At the beginning, I thought they should do nothing more there? And then he thought and decided. I don’t care what they want to be called. I am a resident of the Rostov region, the main thing is that a good and not quarrelsome neighbor lives in the neighborhood. That the neighbor would be fine and peaceful. hi
  17. +12
    6 February 2015 19: 19
    a little off topic, but ... Senya said today ...

    What is happening in Ukraine is dangerous for the European Union, NATO countries and the world, said the head of the Ukrainian government Arseniy Yatsenyuk.

    "What is happening in Ukraine today is a danger for the EU, NATO countries and the world. It is absolutely clear that peace in Europe is needed, but it depends on peace in Ukraine," Yatsenyuk said today at a joint briefing with the Prime Minister of Slovakia Robert Fico.

    "To achieve peace, Ukraine must be able to defend itself. Not in an offensive, but in a defensive operation "- emphasized the prime minister.

    "We understand that there is no classic military solution to the conflict. Nobody wants a large-scale war in Europe, "added the head of the Ukrainian government.
    http://versii.com/news/321463/

    I understand that chefs have already cleared their brains, otherwise why would the rhetoric change so much? And I really want to hear from the military present - and what is a classic and NOT a classic military solution?

    And on the water statements of the DNI. I, personally, am very glad that it sounded. I think that both Comrade Artem, the leader of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic, and his deceased son, General Artem, who at one time was brought up in a family with comrade. I.V. Stalin, would be proud of their countrymen of the present time.
    1. 0
      6 February 2015 19: 24
      Elena, you’ll see. hi
      Sincerely yours.
    2. 0
      6 February 2015 19: 59
      ... what is a classic and NOT a classic military solution?

      Classical - the superiority of the advancing forces, control and execution.
      Not classic - fortitude in unbearable conditions and the destruction of the enemy anywhere and by any means.
      I think so... hi
  18. 0
    6 February 2015 19: 23
    Well done, wise decision. And did this Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic accidentally reach the Dnieper?
    1. 0
      6 February 2015 19: 50
      Well, estimate for yourself where Krivoy Rog. Of course it came and went!
  19. +2
    6 February 2015 19: 23
    It's time to unite the DPR + LPR and announce the creation of a new republic, with new borders. Together, it’s easier to survive in this chaos.
  20. 11111mail.ru
    0
    6 February 2015 19: 26
    "Our Everything" once said: "Before uniting, first we must decisively dissociate ourselves." Zampolity, this is your bread, clear your throat!
  21. +4
    6 February 2015 19: 30
    All the principalities joined any empire. And I'm sorry why sculpt from ..... cat!
    1. 0
      6 February 2015 22: 40
      Quote: a.hamster55
      And I'm sorry why sculpt from ..... cat!

      Therefore, the President draws the cat "back view". laughing
  22. +1
    6 February 2015 19: 37
    They are surprised by the impudence of the West that they put Russia on its knees. They don’t want anything else, they raised the Nazis, they killed a bunch of people and now, announcing sanctions, they’re going to agree on what.
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    2. 0
      6 February 2015 19: 51
      Dear Panzer 64! I have not put anyone on my knees and do not advise. Whoever comes to Us with an ax will leave with an ax in the ass. No solidol!
  23. +1
    6 February 2015 19: 43
    Although Kryvyi Rih, at least direct-minded, are one. Call the Russians at least the Mongols. All the same, they will be Russian. And the mentality, most importantly, will be the same. The greater the pressure, the stronger the reaction, for any reason. At least cops, at least Obama. One FIG. Call it Pilot's Law. I will not be offended.
  24. +10
    6 February 2015 19: 45
    In my opinion, utter stupidity. What the heck? Declare yourself the successor of a one-day state? Ukraine tried to stick to the UPR, these to the DKR. Did they really have something to continue? Why was the topic even raised? It is more logical to declare Ukraine non-existent since February 2014, and declare that since Ukraine is no more, we are building our new state and claiming Ukraine’s place in the UN. Ukraine's debts to Western countries, which guaranteed security to Yanukovych, are declared canceled. And Poroshenko’s new debts are not recognized at all, as they are given to the criminal regime and generally have nothing to do with New Russia.
    1. Am
      0
      6 February 2015 20: 48
      Not bad, you did it.
    2. +4
      6 February 2015 23: 15
      Well, it’s better to have at least something in the predecessors, albeit a one-day one. I am sure that New Russia will be as much a part of the Russian world as the Russian Federation or Belarus. Common past, common future. A recognition of the succession from the DKR is rather needed in order to dissociate itself from Ukraine with all its false history.
  25. 0
    6 February 2015 19: 46
    Judah one way! The unspoken laws of being were observed in the absence of state laws.
  26. 0
    6 February 2015 19: 57
    Deputies of the DPR adopted a memorandum that the DPR is the legal successor of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic

    You look, soon someone thread to declare himself the successor of the Zaporizhzhya Sich!))))
  27. 0
    6 February 2015 20: 07
    There already exists a supra-republican, confederate formation of the LPR and DPR - the Union of People's Republics of Novorossia, headed by O. Tsarev. It is planned to include six more regions of Ukraine: Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kharkov and Kherson. That is, with a number of amendments, Novorossia covers approximately the same territories as the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic. The authorities of the DPR, pointing out themselves as the successors of this republic, are actually withdrawing themselves from participation in the SNR of Novorossiya and are beginning to position themselves as the center of gravity of the Ukrainian "Russian world." This is logical if we consider that the DPR, unlike the LPR, has more numerous armed forces that bear the brunt of the fighting.
  28. 0
    6 February 2015 20: 43
    In March 1918 it became part of the Ukrainian Socialist Republic. In February 1919, the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic de jure ceased to exist. ............... Well, as if now and then they will not be part of Ukraine. Flag in their hands.
  29. +2
    6 February 2015 20: 51
    Truly a necessary statement, there is no State without roots! Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic, this is the basis of the new association, the only way to recognition and independence in the face of the world community. The people of Donbass earned their sovereignty.
  30. +1
    6 February 2015 21: 00
    Here you have the sketches of New Russia. All former Russian cities. And ukria, which is actively selling its arable land, will be left with nothing. Well, you can go to farm laborers to nemchur. Of course, this is not a legislative document, but it suggests thoughts.
  31. +5
    6 February 2015 21: 08
    Clever. In fact, this means that the DPR and LPR are the legal successors of a state entity, which was equal in status to the then Ukraine. And who can say: "Divorce and maiden name." Moreover, to justify the incomplete voluntariness of the inclusion of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic in the then Ukrainian Socialist Republic. Well, and accordingly, with the return of "premarital property" - its former territory to the divorcing party (including the territory, up to Perekop and Dnieper) :).
    Moreover, this is a real historical fact that will be a real trump card in the historical situation with Ukraine (and a counterbalance against its claims to "Ukrainize" these territories).
  32. +1
    6 February 2015 21: 28
    You give DKR from Odessa to Kharkov and with the Kiev province as a part !!!
  33. +1
    6 February 2015 21: 31
    Very competent move. The DPR and LPR have a common past, some borders and political continuity. Perhaps the formation of state associations within the intended boundaries and a host of other feints. The Jesuit move and just .... beautiful.
  34. +2
    6 February 2015 21: 39
    Clever. In fact, the international community is presented with the fact of the existence of a state formation equal in status to Ukraine, the legal successor of which is today's DNR (and LNR), which was not completely voluntarily included in another state formation. And now it is legitimate to put forward a demand: "divorce and maiden name", with the return of her "premarital property" - territories, up to the borders of the Crimean Perekop and the Dniester lands.
  35. +3
    6 February 2015 21: 56
    The Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic is a real trump card against Ukraine's claims to these territories, since these are not "ancient" times (Novorossiya and Little Russia), but the times of modern history. And with this it is possible to justify the legality of the independence of these state entities from Ukraine.
  36. 0
    6 February 2015 22: 24
    Some interesting facts about the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic see at:
    http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/3381322-korrespondent-donetsko-kryvoro
    zhskaia-respublyka-what-eto-bylo

    And the DKR card
  37. 0
    6 February 2015 22: 38
    Quote: Corsair
    We'll have to somehow "rub in" and get along with Ukraine, but I UNDERLINE, Ukraine is denationalized ...


    Why argue? It is said Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic, for starters. Then the others will slowly grind. But not the other way around, do not dream.
  38. 0
    6 February 2015 22: 59
    It is high time!!:)
  39. +4
    6 February 2015 23: 30
    And there would be an ideal land corridor of the Russian Federation to the Crimea, as well as the supply of Crimea with water
    from the Dnieper, if the DPR and LPR will be able to recreate the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Federal Republic, within the borders of the DKR :).
  40. +2
    7 February 2015 05: 09
    Quote: MooH
    after the victory.

    all this, of course, is good, but we need to do something with social payments in a controlled territory, otherwise we’ll get out of Debaltseve
    A half-bus left for Donetsk, and drove 21 buses ..., the pepper is clear, pensioners need a pension, and it is paid only in the territory of the junta ..., or is it a targeted policy of the DPR authorities, b ... don’t spoil the idea, already and so the reputation is tarnished further nowhere, who will answer ??? Does anyone solve the issue of transferring money to the territory
    DNR ... that you generally sit there for yours ... you .. Do you collect taxes there or not, establish a peaceful life, at least in the rear, there will be a rumor that at least something is changing, at least somewhere ...
  41. Alexander I
    0
    7 February 2015 08: 39
    You bring one thing to the end first. You’ll chase after two hares, and you won’t catch one.
  42. 0
    7 February 2015 11: 28
    Separatists refused to evacuate residents of Debaltseve on Saturday

    Not following the results of negotiations, such statements began to appear in newspapers, an hour? So I'm right.