Modernization of armored vehicles of the Syrian Republican Guard: products of the four-year war

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After several experiments with spaced armor and lattice screens on tanks The T-72AV and BMP-2 Republican Guard began a small program to modernize their armored vehicles in the summer of 2014. After upgrading several of their T-72M1s and bulldozers with additional protection, the Republican Guard now also has at least one ZSU-23-4 self-propelled anti-aircraft gun in service, modernized in a similar way.

The aim of the modernization program was to increase the probability of survival of armored combat vehicles by adding a set of additional protection, which consists of lattice screens installed at some distance from the main armor and reinforced with metal chains. All over the place, this provides impressive 360 degrees of protection from conventional RPGs. More powerful RPGs, such as RPG-29, M79 Wasp or later RPG-7, of course, are more likely to break through such protection.

The first vehicles upgraded as part of this program were several T-72M1 tanks, which were then deployed in the city of Jobar for the purpose of combat verification of this new protection kit. This first battle check ended in a rather pitiable manner, as one of the upgraded T-72M1 tanks got stuck and then the crew left it, while another tank was completely destroyed after joining Jobar, a tragic start for an ambitious program.

However, it could not force the Republican Guard to stop this modernization program and several modified T-72M1 tanks in the following months entered combat units in Jobar, Eastern Ghut and even Aleppo. The workshops that are responsible for the execution of this program are located in Adra, north of Damascus.




A similar protection kit, designed and manufactured in these workshops, was also installed on the bulldozers in service with the guard.

Bulldozers have proven themselves in most of the offensive operations in the vicinity of Damascus and Eastern Guitsa, where they were used to transport soldiers to the front line, clearing obstacles, creating sand barriers to cover the infantry and tanks, and finally clearing suspicious minefields. When they worked without these sets of protection, they were easy prey for anti-tank groups, anti-tank guns, and even machine-gun fire, although they had self-made defense on them.

In addition to small factory differences or minimal modifications in the units, in fact, there are only two options for the protection kit. These options provide a clear picture of how the designs and production of these protection kits evolved over time.



The bulldozer at the bottom of the photo worked in Jobar, where it was mainly used for transporting troops and clearing minefields. It was destroyed at the end of December 2014, when it was captured in open areas by militants Failaq al-Rahman, also known as the Rahman Corps, allegedly while trying to clear a minefield.

The bulldozer was only immobilized after receiving several hits from the RPG-7 and was set on fire with an anti-tank rifle. The militants of Failaq al-Rahman dug a tunnel to the abandoned bulldozer and installed a satchel of blasting under it in order to prevent the recovery of the vehicle. A subsequent explosion destroyed his body, the bulldozer caught fire, which completely excluded his recovery.


Modernization of armored vehicles of the Syrian Republican Guard: products of the four-year war


The next machine on which the protection kit was installed was the ZSU-23-4. The combat experience gained in Darayya revealed the need for a vehicle capable of destroying militant positions in apartments and apartments located at a height that are almost always beyond the reach of a T-72 tank gun.

Based on the past experience of other countries, Syria began to use its large ZSU-23-4 fleet to support tanks and infantry. The biggest drawback of the ZSU-23-4 when performing these tasks is its poor booking. Originally intended to deal with aircraft when operating behind tanks and infantry fighting vehicles on the plains of Europe, this machine’s protection is not at all suitable for destroying enemy’s shelters at close range. The recent capture of the 82 brigade near Sheikh Miskin serves as a cruel reminder of this flaw.

Installation of the kit protection will be mainly aimed at eliminating the ZSU-23-4 vulnerability. arms and RPG and allow the machine to provide fire support at a much closer range than before. With its extremely high rate of fire, large caliber and vertical guidance angles, which allow you to fire at any potential target, it is an ideal vehicle for urban combat; military machine, fully adapted to the hostile space of the Syrian battlefield, which has not subsided for the past four years.




After the metal chains installed in the front of the T-72M1 tanks were unable to stop the RPGs on most of the upgraded T-72M1, the metal chains were replaced with additional spaced armor or just metal parts. These improvements were carried out in operational areas of operations of T-72 tanks, since the workshops responsible for the protection kit, in a strange enough way, continue to install metal chains on T-72 tanks.

Due to the fact that active hostilities provide a huge amount of information about the disadvantages and advantages of different types of military equipment, it is likely that the subsequent versions of the additional protection kits will be aimed at eliminating these shortcomings and, thus, will become more and more effective.




After the two modernized T-72M1 tanks were destroyed in Jobar, the combat value of the defense kit plummeted in the eyes of the Syrian fighters. However, this does not quite correspond to the actual combat characteristics of the new defense. It is possible that the new protection kit gave crews a feeling of invulnerability, so the crews made more risky decisions than usual, which resulted in the destruction of their vehicles. However, one photo from the Eastern Ghuty confirms the effectiveness of the new defense in battle, it depicts an upgraded T-72M1 tank, which remained unharmed after several hits from the RPG.

It is clear that by individual examples of the work of the new set of protection against unknown types of anti-tank weapons it is difficult to fully judge its shortcomings and advantages, but it is clear that the Republican Guard considers it to be quite effective and allocates significant resources for its installation.



The upgrades carried out on these machines show that the Syrian army and the Republican Guard have not yet exhausted their capabilities and are determined. Although the installation of this protection kit is not possible on the T-72 "Ural" because of the installed rangefinder, it is expected that more and more armored combat vehicles will be upgraded in the same way. Most likely, the following will be the BMP-2 Republican Guard.

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  1. +9
    6 February 2015 06: 32
    Combat experience will be useful for us.
    1. +2
      6 February 2015 10: 20
      I would go to such a battle than those on top
      1. +2
        6 February 2015 11: 44
        Quote: insafufa
        I would go to such a battle than those on top

        the Syrians do not have a T-90 on which you would go on the attack sad I have to fight with what is soldier
        1. +9
          6 February 2015 12: 15
          Quote: 0255
          Quote: insafufa
          I would go to such a battle than those on top

          the Syrians do not have a T-90 on which you would go on the attack sad I have to fight with what is soldier

          Konstantin, this is not T-90 ...
          The picture that Insaf posted is one of the rare T-72 models.
          This is the T-72BA of the first issues, a trial batch, so to speak.
          Subsequently, the T-72BA began to look a little different.
          1. +5
            6 February 2015 13: 23
            Quote: Aleks tv

            Konstantin, this is not T-90 ...
            The picture that Insaf posted is one of the rare T-72 models.
            This is the T-72BA of the first issues, a trial batch, so to speak.
            Subsequently, the T-72BA began to look a little different.

            Plus, you are pleased to deal with knowledgeable people.
            I would have traveled to the IMR-2M DISCONTINUATION ENGINEER instead of a makeshift bulldozer
            1. +6
              6 February 2015 14: 46
              Quote: insafufa
              I would have traveled to the IMR-2M DISCONTINUATION ENGINEER instead of a makeshift bulldozer

              IMR and PTS - the best invention of mankind, short handed over to the use of military engineers.
              wink
      2. 0
        8 February 2015 00: 29
        And get a shell in pursuit! To me, the "Turtle" looks more reliable if it is performed with "Relic"!
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    2. 0
      6 February 2015 20: 44
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      Combat experience will be useful for us.
      Alas, all this is not new and not from a good life. Such protection is now used by dill, and even during WWII even the Yankees "strengthened" their armored vehicles
      1. 0
        6 February 2015 21: 08
        In Ukraine, they also help poorly:
    3. +1
      7 February 2015 11: 19
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      Combat experience will be useful

      Of course, any experience is useful.
      But the pearls contained in this article, for example: "Bulldozer worked in Jobar, where he is in mainly used for transporting troops and clearing minefields.inspire doubts about the competence of the author ...
      How does this bulldozer transport troops? In the drag, or what? wink
      How is he "clearing minefields" without a special mine sweep?
      Why did the T-72 "Ural" optical rangefinder interfere with the installation of additional screens? He, this rangefinder (TPD-2-49 sight), is located inside the tower.
      True, the general conclusion from this material is correct: similar artisanal attempts to strengthen the protection of BTT
      equally ineffective against modern TCP in Syria, in the Donbass, but better than nothing, at least in psychological terms.
      Yes, and against old grenades from RPG-7 (not tandem), machine-gun bullets, including 12,7, such "homemade" protection of tanks, Shiloks and bulldozers sometimes helps.
      1. +1
        8 February 2015 01: 15
        The soldiers used the bulldozer as a shield against light small arms, simply cutting off the topsoil along with mines installed at a shallow depth. For sight, direct visibility is important, and the screen in front of the sight cannot be installed. Everything that helps to survive in battle is valuable!
  2. +1
    6 February 2015 07: 16
    and on horseradish balls on chains? they are in any case worse than the lattice frame, and I do not think that the weight will be lower than that of the frame.
    and on merkavas such in the photo I saw xs how many years ago. What is tsimes?
    1. +12
      6 February 2015 07: 30
      I will explain that the chains with the load, as you correctly noticed, were first massively used by Jews on Merkava. They are used as additional protection against RPGs. The grenade detonates before reaching the armor, resulting in a spray of a cumulative jet. There was a dispute over these bells and whistles, here site. We came to the general conclusion - cheaply, angrily and beautifully hi
      1. +3
        6 February 2015 13: 58
        Quote: Magic Archer
        We came to the general conclusion - cheaply, angrily and beautifully

        In the process of in-depth studying the materiel of precisely these chains, I got a photo where they were attached to baskets on the case.
        1. +2
          6 February 2015 15: 08
          Padded radish come out of the emergency))))) scary?
          1. +1
            6 February 2015 21: 04
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      3. +2
        6 February 2015 15: 18
        Quote: Magic Archer
        We came to the general conclusion - cheaply, angrily and beautifully hi


        Not very efficient much better with rubber screens, only enough for once
        Interestingly, rubber screens, plus chains, someone did not apply
      4. 0
        6 February 2015 22: 57
        It is worth noting that the Syrian armored bulldozers clearly spied in one neighboring country 8)
        1. +2
          6 February 2015 23: 10
          Quote: Pimply
          It is worth noting that the Syrian armored bulldozers clearly spied in one neighboring country 8)

          Are the Americans during the Second World War? belay smile
          But Germany, it seems, is not Syria’s neighbor.

          Armored bulldozer of the 103th combat engineer. Battalion engineer of the 28th infantry division in Europe during the Second World War.
          1. -3
            7 February 2015 23: 39
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Armored bulldozer of the 103th combat engineer. Battalion engineer of the 28th infantry division in Europe during the Second World War.

            Vatnichik, the tactics of application are somewhat different from how the Americans used then, and the Israeli theater is closer and more clear to the Syrians. The chains are also not copied from the Swedish centurion of the 1977 year, but from the performance of these chains on Merkava. Well, virtually identical. Which does not cancel that both armored bulldozers and chains were not invented at all in Israel.
    2. +4
      6 February 2015 07: 49
      Quote: just explo
      and on horseradish balls on chains?

      You yourself answered your own question - you saw it on "Chariots", watched an Israeli advertisement about the unsurpassed properties of chains with balls, and put it on your own. And the fact that you need to critically approach any advertising, and even test innovations on YOUR technique, whether it will fit - did not think.
      Any equipment will burn, they have not yet invented an invulnerable tank, and people grab onto any straw in order to survive. And they burn, of course, scary, even surprising how someone manages to survive (first episode):
      1. +6
        6 February 2015 09: 56
        Quote: inkass_98
        Any equipment will burn, they haven’t yet invented an invulnerable tank, and people grab onto any straw in order to survive

        Yes you are right. Although if the chains and screens give at least a tiny but a chance to resist the cumulative ammunition, then why not? a lot of weight will not increase, the cost of such tuning is not great, and taknkistam a little calmer.
        1. +2
          6 February 2015 10: 27
          Quote: bazilio
          Yes, and takkistam a little calmer.

          Actually, this is what I had in mind. hi
    3. +5
      6 February 2015 10: 07
      Quote: just explo
      and on horseradish balls on chains? they are in any case worse than the trellised frame

      Balls are needed to stretch and damp out chain vibrations. Chains are worse than a lattice frame therefore they are used where it is impossible to put a lattice. At the junction of the tower with the body you can’t put the grate - it will break off when the tower is turned. The same thing below - the lattice is deformed and breaks off from obstacles, and the chains always hang as they should.
  3. 0
    6 February 2015 07: 16
    This is where the "great Ukrainians" took their ideas. Just looking at what happened with the ancient dill, the question arises about the straightness of the hands ...
  4. +2
    6 February 2015 07: 57
    Oh, now a crowd of couch experts will come running, screaming- RPG-7 breaks EVERYTHING!
    1. +4
      6 February 2015 09: 51
      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      Oh, now a crowd of couch experts will come running, screaming- RPG-7 breaks EVERYTHING!

      This is on the one hand, and on the other hand, a group of experts with screams - lattice screens and balls with chains are not penetrated)))
  5. +21
    6 February 2015 09: 58
    Here they are where the idea was stolen. Ay on na!
  6. +12
    6 February 2015 10: 03
    Syrian experience once again proves the following:
    1) The protection of the tank should be foreshortening - at least from manual anti-tank equipment.
    2) Protection is preferable to maneuverability.
    3) The elevation angle of the tank guns is insufficient and requires an increase.
    4) BMP (and other equipment) operating in conjunction with tanks should have a similar level of protection.
    5) The action of the armored groups should be provided with engineering equipment with similar protection to tanks.
    All this has been known since the Second World War, but they regularly forget about it.
    1. +2
      6 February 2015 11: 03
      Quote: tchoni
      2) Protection is preferable to maneuverability.

      Debatable. Maneuverability allows you to use the surrounding landscape to protect. In urban conditions, it is easier for a running infantryman than a crawling (standing) tank.

      Quote: tchoni
      3) The elevation angle of the tank guns is insufficient and requires an increase.

      Along with this, the design of the tank will change. The height of the profile and the reserve volume will probably increase.

      Efficiency is affected not so much by the characteristics of the technique as its proper application.
      1. +2
        6 February 2015 11: 21
        Quote: Petrix
        Debatable. Maneuverability allows you to use the surrounding landscape to protect. In urban conditions, it is easier for a running infantryman than a crawling (standing) tank.

        I'm afraid not already. You can say as much as you like that there is no place for a tank in the city, but they are at war there. If you recall the most effective tanks in battle, such as, say, TIGER, they all differed precisely in powerful and almost equally strong armor. Unfortunately, the infantryman cannot carry the heavy weapons necessary to suppress bunkers in the required quantity. As experience has shown, the presence of armored vehicles seriously reduces the losses of attackers.
    2. +2
      6 February 2015 16: 06
      You forgot to add about the cover of tanks with infantry. Without this, any of the most sophisticated tanks in the city will be destroyed anyway.
      1. +1
        6 February 2015 16: 58
        Quote: The Cat
        You forgot to add about the cover of tanks with infantry. Without this, any of the most sophisticated tanks in the city will be destroyed anyway.

        4) BMP (and other equipment) operating in conjunction with tanks should have a similar level of protection. The presence of infantry fighting vehicles implies the presence of infantry ...
        1. +1
          6 February 2015 21: 55
          The use of tanks, and with them BMP and foot infantry - in an offensive battle in the open.

          And here not only did the tanks drive into the city, but also the BMP. The correct tactics, as in the assault on Berlin.

          Yes, "BMP (and other equipment) operating in conjunction with tanks should have a similar level of protection." That is, it turns out the same tank, but with weaker weapons.
  7. +8
    6 February 2015 10: 47
    They said that the Terminator is a meaningless machine. In fact, this is a well-armored tank support vehicle, the same ZUShka with only good armor, an SLA and an anti-tank complex with 4 missiles. Just for work in the city. Two 30 mm guns is a force.
    1. +1
      6 February 2015 13: 27
      30-2 can and strength .. but 23-4 is stronger))) !!!!
    2. +1
      6 February 2015 21: 59
      The same tank, only with weaker armament. How will the Terminator crew fight against the militants with rocket-propelled grenades entrenched in basements and ruins? Just like regular tanks. Without the support of the infantry, it doesn't matter. So is the point of changing the awl for soap?
    3. +1
      7 February 2015 19: 18
      Terminator is a necessary machine, but not in the form in which UVZ offers it.
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  9. -21
    6 February 2015 11: 49
    Less than three years later, the Syrian army realized what the T-72 tank was worthless in the world and went on to defend the 1945 model.
    1. +13
      6 February 2015 12: 13
      Quote: professor
      In less than three years


      Who thought that Syria would be able to hold out for the 3 of the year and still retain heavy weapons in the ranks?
      The Syrian army with Soviet weapons looks better against the background of the Iraqi and American ones.
      1. -14
        6 February 2015 12: 30
        Quote: Lindon
        Who thought that Syria would be able to hold out for the 3 of the year and still retain heavy weapons in the ranks?

        Hold out against whom? The rebels from whom the ATGMs began to be supplied only last year. By the way, the Assad army lost about 50 soldiers.

        Quote: Lindon
        The Syrian army with Soviet weapons looks better against the background of the Iraqi and American ones.

        Is there a beauty contest?

        1. +9
          6 February 2015 13: 15
          Quote: professor

          Hold out against whom? Rebelov


          Call it what you want.
          In Iraq, they are very good at making gold and American weapons.
          Since August, the USA and its allies have been helping Iraq - they are bombing, and Assad is holding on.
          What beauty contest was it about? Specify.
          1. -9
            6 February 2015 13: 25
            Quote: Lindon
            In Iraq, they are very good at making gold and American weapons.

            In Syria, they profit even more. In fact, Assad is the largest supplier of weapons to militias including ISIS.

            Quote: Lindon
            Since August, the USA and its allies have been helping Iraq - they are bombing, and Assad is holding on.

            They help Assad, and therefore holds on. For example, Jordan bombed ISIS in Iraq tonight.

            Quote: Lindon
            What beauty contest was it about? Specify.

            Syrian army with Soviet weapons looks better against the background of Iraqi with American.
            1. +5
              6 February 2015 13: 41
              Quote: professor

              In Syria, they profit even more. In fact


              In fact .... the richest IS was as a result of the seizure of assets of several banks in Mosul ($ 429 million). The fact that the Iraqi army left the IS more modern American weapons against the outdated Soviet that the Syrian army - probably no need to prove.
              Watching does not mean evaluating beauty, but in the sense of comparing. Compare the military successes / failures of two armies in the fight against IS.
              1. -3
                6 February 2015 14: 00
                Quote: Lindon
                In fact .... the richest IS became as a result of the seizure of assets of several banks in Mosul ($ 429 million).

                ISIS enriched in oil smuggling. Now this shop is somewhat covered.

                Quote: Lindon
                The fact that the Iraqi army left the IS more modern American weapons against the outdated Soviet that the Syrian army - probably no need to prove.

                From what. It is very interesting to see and compare.

                Quote: Lindon
                Compare the military successes / failures of two armies in the fight against IS.

                Both armies are equally unsuccessful in the fight against ISIS militias.
        2. +1
          6 February 2015 21: 23
          Militants dig a lot of tunnels, which is why they move around the city without leaving buildings. I have to use tanks in the city. At the beginning of the war, the Syrians did not have combat experience and suffered heavy losses. Now they have a well-coordinated infantry and tanks.
          You may not be right about the anti-tank systems - back in the summer and autumn of 2013 Musin (ANNA-News) said that the militants use rockets. And a simple RPG in the city is very effective, because the distances are small.
        3. +1
          7 February 2015 07: 06
          Hold out against whom? The rebels from whom the ATGMs began to be supplied only last year. By the way, the Assad army lost about 50 soldiers.


          Quite funny to hear that from you professor! After all, you yourself say that the "terrorists" in Palestine have super duper modern weapons and that the IDF is fighting a modern army. And you react very painfully to messages like yours. Hypocrisy or duplicity?
          1. -3
            7 February 2015 11: 47
            Quote: rait
            After all, you yourself say that the "terrorists" in Palestine have super duper modern weapons and that the IDF is fighting a modern army.

            And where did I say that? Discard the link.
            1. +4
              7 February 2015 14: 43
              Don't you remember? Strange, strange. I remember exactly how you talked about large-caliber Iranian rifles, about modern weapons and were extremely offended when the Palestinian-Israeli conflict was called "the IDF war with untrained and poorly armed blacks" (I can not vouch for the accuracy of the quote, but the meaning is absolutely correct).

              So this is what I am writing this to: How is it that the IDF is at war with super armed Islamists, and Syria with "Rebels, whose ATGMs were only supplied last year"? After all, they are fighting at least with forces identical in quality. Only the Palestinians are not given money and weapons by the US and EU.
              1. 0
                7 February 2015 19: 53
                Quote: rait
                Don’t you remember? Strange, weird.

                Give the link and laugh at me together. wink
      2. +1
        6 February 2015 12: 30
        Well, you have to choose the right allies)
      3. +4
        6 February 2015 15: 10
        Once again - if more than one country Syria had not supported the terrorists, they would have destroyed them long ago. And so the bandits feed and support the United States, the EU, Israel, the PZ countries and other accomplices of the terrorists. Only this war continues.
        1. +1
          6 February 2015 15: 25
          The total financial assistance to terrorists in Syria is up to $ 1 billion a year.
    2. 0
      6 February 2015 12: 56
      But merkava is direct salvation?) (Not in the kazi’s brush), they are not in Syria.
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    4. +1
      8 February 2015 12: 38
      I think that in the conditions of the logistics system and the level of maintenance that the Syrians have, no other tank will simply be able to function normally. So in vain you roll a barrel on the T-72m.
  10. +1
    6 February 2015 12: 24
    And I was more struck by the tuning of Syrian tanks in this style, just a hell of a look .....

    1. +3
      6 February 2015 15: 34
      In fact, ceramic armor smile
  11. 0
    6 February 2015 13: 20
    Quote: inkass_98
    Quote: just explo
    and on horseradish balls on chains?

    You yourself answered your own question - you saw it on "Chariots", watched an Israeli advertisement about the unsurpassed properties of chains with balls, and put it on your own. And the fact that you need to critically approach any advertising, and even test innovations on YOUR technique, whether it will fit - did not think.
    Any equipment will burn, they have not yet invented an invulnerable tank, and people grab onto any straw in order to survive. And they burn, of course, scary, even surprising how someone manages to survive (first episode):

    The first episode was chewed and chewed a thousand times already ... the dude who ran afterwards was behind the tank ... and not in it ...
  12. munez
    0
    6 February 2015 13: 42
    Has anyone seen it yet?
    1. +1
      6 February 2015 13: 59
      In the photo about. 195?
      1. munez
        0
        6 February 2015 14: 49
        They write that "Unique photo of object 195", but somehow I imagined an uninhabited tower differently
        1. +1
          6 February 2015 22: 05
          Try mentally throwing a disguise on the tower.



          As you can see, the tower is full of all kinds of protruding devices, because of which the shape of the cape is different from the shape of the tower.
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  13. padonok.71
    +5
    6 February 2015 14: 51
    Quote: professor
    Is there a beauty contest?
    Anytime, anywhere, among any people, you can pull people with a few uh ... well, let's say with an unusual appearance, for example.
    1. -1
      6 February 2015 14: 53
      Is it about appearance there? You look at uniforms.
    2. +7
      6 February 2015 15: 29
      Here are some more "unusual" smile IDF soldiers.
      1. padonok.71
        +12
        6 February 2015 16: 24
        What is not ordinary, very ordinary. I was surprised, but there are Negro Jews, Asiatic Jews, Europoid Jews and Tel Aviv officially confirms this.
        Here are just whether there are Jewish Indians, I have not yet found out, but I think there are, because Jews-Ukrainians are for sure, for example "Chokolatenfuehrer" (but I will not post his photo - it hurts disgusting, dog!).
        1. +2
          6 February 2015 16: 31
          Well, the word unusual, I just did not put in brackets smile
          And so it’s clear that they settled around the world, and the Euro-Indians are likely lol
        2. +1
          7 February 2015 23: 46
          Quote: padonok.71
          But are there any Jewish Indians

          Jewish Indians are. There are, by the way, Jews and Indians
          http://www.ejwiki.org/wiki/Евреи_индейского_происхождения

          Here is more detailed
      2. +1
        7 February 2015 23: 43
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Here are some more "unusual" soldiers of the IDF.

        What is unusual? Ethiopian Jews. 4 served with me in the company. One was a lock.
  14. padonok.71
    +5
    6 February 2015 14: 54
    Or here. And what does this prove? But nothing. Do not be like one famous minister of propaganda.
  15. padonok.71
    +2
    6 February 2015 15: 01
    Quote: professor
    You look at uniforms.
    So what’s wrong with their uniforms? Maybe it's so convenient. And in general, who is it?
    1. -6
      6 February 2015 15: 09
      Quote: padonok.71
      So what’s wrong with their uniforms? Maybe it's so convenient. And in general, who is it?

      Of course, slippers and a tractor are more convenient. Assad soldiers.
      1. padonok.71
        +4
        6 February 2015 16: 14
        Do not allow such an idea that they sat at home, drank tea and coffee and went out just fooling around, to pose for a cool tractor? And they didn’t want to wear berets because of this.
        And about the fact that these are Assad soldiers, did they tell you this themselves? Or do you know them by sight?
        1. -1
          6 February 2015 17: 18
          Quote: padonok.71
          Do not allow such an idea that they sat at home, drank tea and coffee and went out just fooling around, to pose for a cool tractor? And they didn’t want to wear berets because of this.

          I do not admit. The ANA News is full of commercials where Assad boys in slippers fight even in tanks.

          Quote: padonok.71
          And about the fact that these are Assad soldiers, did they tell you this themselves? Or do you know them by sight?

          And who is too lazy to break through the photo who is it?
          1. padonok.71
            +1
            6 February 2015 20: 31
            Quote: professor
            At ANA News
            I don’t look, I don’t like the name, it gives something like that ... mmm ... ANA, well, you understand me.

            Quote: professor
            full of commercials where asadovskie boys in slippers are fighting
            Even in sandals ... I don't care. By the way, the Greeks, all sorts of Romans, in sandals, conquered half of the ecumene (and Judea, too, excuse me) and did not "soar" about this.

            Quote: professor
            even on tanks.
            EVEN ON TANKS? !!! infantry, of course, in sandals is much more "agile" than tankers.


            Quote: professor
            And who is too lazy to break through the photo who is it?
            And how do you see it? I have no friends in Mossad / Shabak. And anyway, why should I punch them? This is your information already work hard - confirm authenticity. Otherwise
            Quote: professor
            Mr. Sovramshi
            1. -2
              6 February 2015 20: 45
              Quote: padonok.71
              And how do you see it?

              in Google banned? wink
              http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-17/syrian-army-soldiers-ride-on-tractor/47574

              84

              http://www.smh.com.au/world/hezbollahbacked-troops-oust-rebels-in-key-city-20130

              605-2nrej.html
              1. padonok.71
                +1
                6 February 2015 21: 15
                On the first link - pumping stations. On the second - zero. The search engine is Yandex. No. Let's get a working link! am
                  1. +4
                    6 February 2015 21: 58
                    So what? The cases are different ... and according to Tsahal there is much that you can dig up even worse than slippers ...

                    In general, "they are different cases" (c) ...
                    1. -2
                      6 February 2015 22: 20
                      Quote: Spade
                      In general, "they are different cases" (c) ...

                      This is not an accident, this is a system.
                    2. -2
                      7 February 2015 23: 49
                      Quote: Spade
                      So what? The cases are different ... and according to Tsahal there is much that you can dig up even worse than slippers ...

                      In general, "they are different cases" (c) ...

                      In fact, this photo has a clear context. The attack on the base, and for the Americans (like the Israelis) according to the instructions, the resting soldier, when defending the base, should first put on an armor or unloading, a helmet and take personal weapons. And only then think about everything else
                  2. padonok.71
                    +1
                    7 February 2015 09: 37
                    As another professor said: “I don’t believe it!”. This is just a photo with the conclusions of an anonymous journalist, moreover, in the spirit of the article, hostile towards these Syrian Sandals. Not convinced.
                    1. 0
                      7 February 2015 11: 48
                      Quote: padonok.71
                      "I do not believe!"

                      Your right. In AnaNews full of such videos.
                      1. padonok.71
                        +4
                        7 February 2015 22: 24
                        The drain is protected. So you seem to like talking. wink
                        But on business. Well, in slippers, well, in trainers, so what is it? Maybe they don’t have enough, they can take from nowhere, who knows. The main thing is how they fight, for what, what goals they achieved. To remind you how your independence fighters, so in 47-49, looked like they were equipped, armed, what armored vehicles they had. Or as fighters of the Red Army, in the 41st, were dressed, participants in the Warsaw Uprising. This is all unimportant.
                        And the important thing is that you cannot put things in order in your "sandbox" (no offense, but this is your "sandbox"). some needles! The situation is tense, the dirty-bellied Arabs are rampaging, now they will sort it out among themselves, but they will begin to take care of you, and you are "stirring up" something. Ugliness.
                        About chukhnya and hokhlyandiya you can not "sarcast", I myself here strongly disagree with GDP.
                      2. -3
                        8 February 2015 07: 55
                        Quote: padonok.71
                        The drain is protected. So you seem to like talking.

                        No, I don’t say that. Show the pictures- showed. Please indicate the source. Anna News - I do not look.
                        All the best to you. hi
                      3. padonok.71
                        0
                        8 February 2015 12: 06
                        Yeah, and you are not sick. Good luck in your difficult task. After all, the patriots of "Rashka" are so stubborn, well, you can't prove it to them! Adies!
            2. +1
              6 February 2015 21: 59
              ANNA - Abkhazian Network News Agency. Registered in Abkhazia, therefore, to sue them, you must recognize Abkhazia! There were a lot of provocations against them, so they turned out.
  16. -1
    6 February 2015 15: 11
    Author: padded jacket

    The protection with chains was not invented in Israel, they only copied it (however, they live by that, "soprut" someone's invention and then pass it off as their own).
    Swedish Centurion:

    Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi. Israel never passed it off as its invention.
    1. +2
      6 February 2015 16: 39
      Ohhohohohho .... We started with a makeshift and semi-artisanal improvement of armor, and again we ended up talking about Israel, the Jews, who pulled something from someone ..... Professor, I wish you patience and nerves for stronger))))))
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  17. -1
    6 February 2015 15: 17
    Author: padded jacket

    Once again - if more than one country Syria had not supported the terrorists, they would have destroyed them long ago. And so the bandits feed and support the United States, the EU, Israel, the PZ countries and other accomplices of the terrorists. Only this war continues.

    Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi. Assad fight with the Sunnis who make up the majority of the population of Syria, and the people are known to be invincible.
    1. +3
      6 February 2015 21: 46
      Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi. Assad is fighting with representatives of the Sunnis - radical Islamists, cutting off the heads of prisoners, killing children, organizing provocations with chemical weapons, abducting women, and so on. Assad - well done!

      Assad does not fight against the people, as you FALSEly declared, since a group of bandits belonging to any people is not ALL of these people. Assad is fighting against criminals, among whom are Sunnis and other nationalities. And the Sunnis are fighting on the side of Assad.
      You are very old, Professor, before you didn’t allow such stupid mistakes ... Yes - old age is not joy, I sympathize with you ...
      1. -7
        8 February 2015 02: 17
        Quote: Master_Lviv
        Assad does not fight against the people ...


        ... he is just a little genocide, with carpet shelling in residential areas ...



        ... and barrel bombs with the latest targeting system "to whom Allah will send" negative



        During the 4 years of the war in Siri, more than 80% of civilian casualties were from the hands of the Assad group.
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        2. +1
          8 February 2015 14: 55
          "During the 4 years of the war in Siri, more than 80% of civilian casualties were at the hands of the Assad faction." As one professor said about the number of grains of sand on all the beaches of the Earth - "Confess how you thought?"
      2. -3
        8 February 2015 09: 52
        Assad does not fight against the people, as you FALSEly declared, since a group of bandits belonging to any people is not ALL of these people.

        It is somehow strange that in the army of Assad these Sunnis are practically absent, although they make up the vast majority of the population of Syria. It is also strange that they suddenly turned out to be recorded as terrorists. It is surprising that the Sunni cities were almost wiped off the face of the earth, and the Alawite cities were not bombarded by the Asad falcons ...

        Assad is fighting against criminals, among whom are Sunnis and other nationalities.

        Assad fight against the people of Syria, putting about 3 of their citizens in 200 years.

        And the Sunnis are fighting on the side of Assad.

        Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi. Docs to the studio.
  18. -5
    6 February 2015 15: 27
    Author: padded jacket

    The total financial assistance to terrorists in Syria is up to $ 1 billion a year.

    another lie quilted jacket.
    1. 0
      6 February 2015 16: 21
      Allah only knows this. wink Nice to read your weighted comments.
  19. +8
    6 February 2015 16: 01
    Our "in-house" storyteller professor gave a voice lol
    That's right, the professor really does not defeat the people, so he fights with the terrorists and mercenaries paid by the United States, Israel and other friends of the killers.


    The total financial assistance to terrorists in Syria is up to $ 1 billion a year.

    another lie quilted jacket.

    We read for example about the USA:
    US Allocates $ XNUMX Billion Opposition to Syrian Opposition
    The amount of US aid to the Syrian opposition is about $ 260 million, the Department of State reports.
    http://ria.ru/arab_sy/20131212/983786736.html
    The League of Arab States (LAS) has officially announced the right of the member countries of this Pan-Arab organization to provide military assistance to the Syrian opposition, seeking to overthrow Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
    http://telegraf.com.ua/mir/blizhniy-vostok/455965-lag-razreshila-voennuyu-pomosh
    h-siriyskoy-oppozitsii.html
  20. -6
    6 February 2015 16: 07
    Author: padded jacket

    That's right, the professor really does not defeat the people, so he fights with the terrorists and mercenaries paid by the United States, Israel and other friends of the killers.

    Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi. Your cries towards Israel have found confirmation. another blah blah blah. But as always.


    We read for example about the USA:

    Have you read and found out? And they found out that the quilted jacket was again caught in a lie. Where is the billion? wink
  21. +1
    6 February 2015 16: 12
    Quote: insafufa
    it’s even amazing how someone manages to survive (first episode)

    he was hiding there from the very beginning ...
  22. +3
    6 February 2015 16: 14
    Are you composing again? smile
    I wrote - the total amount of help.
    Only from the US 260 million there are still other sponsors of the bandits SA, Qatar of the EU is the same - Israel, which is one of the main "distributors" of terrorism and terrorists in the world.
    1. +2
      6 February 2015 16: 23
      For example, this year the "best friend" of the US terrorists (by the way, he is also the best friend of Israel, so fanatical bandits and the Tel Aviv junta have one US sponsor laughing ) asks for help to terrorists already 500 million dollars.
      US President Barack Obama has asked Congress to provide new financial support to armed terrorist groups in Syria.
      A White House statement delivered by France Presse says that Obama asked Congressmen to approve $ 500 million for military training and arms supplies for the so-called “moderate armed opposition” in Syria.
      The United States refers to “moderate” terrorists fighting in Syria sponsored by Saudi Arabia and a number of Arab and other foreign countries, although the main backbone of these forces is the Jebhat Al-Nusra and Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant terrorist groups associated with Al Qaeda. ”


      Another direct link between terror and Israel is the same sponsor and advocate lol
      1. -1
        6 February 2015 20: 28
        I do not think that Israel is the distributor of terrorism and terrorists in the world.
        There is such a concept "boomerang principle." In Israel, smart people, why do they need this crap?
        1. +3
          6 February 2015 20: 44
          Quote: Bradypodidae
          I do not think that Israel is the distributor of terrorism and terrorists in the world.
          There is such a concept "boomerang principle." In Israel, smart people, why do they need this crap?

          And why are they now at the head of Ukraine?
          Why do they strike at Syria fighting terrorists?
          And why did they arm and train Georgia?
          Why did they stand behind the unleashing of the Chechen wars and at the same time throw mud at our army?
          And so you can continue for a very long time, but this is no longer relevant to the topic.
          1. -4
            6 February 2015 21: 02
            And why did they organize the Great October Socialist Revolution?
            Why did they come up with nuclear weapons?
            Why did they buy Chelsea FC?
            And why did they stand behind the crucifixion of Jesus?
            With this approach, you can blame any country.
            1. +1
              6 February 2015 23: 23
              Correctly this is also their "merit" smile
  23. -3
    6 February 2015 16: 16
    Author: padded jacket

    Are you composing again?
    I wrote - the total amount of help.
    Only from the US 260 million there are still other sponsors of the bandits SA, Qatar of the EU is the same - Israel, which is one of the main "distributors" of terrorism and terrorists in the world.

    Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi. Your cries towards Israel have found confirmation. another blah blah blah. But as always.

    Where is the billion? wink
  24. -2
    6 February 2015 17: 22
    Author: padded jacket

    For example, this year the "best friend" of the US terrorists (by the way, he is also the best friend of Israel, so that fanatical bandits and the Tel Aviv junta have one US sponsor) asks for $ 500 million to help terrorists.

    Ignorance just rushes from all holes. I understand that the word "junta" is very popular now, but only an ignoramus can tell it about and without reason. wink

    Where is the billion, mr.
  25. +4
    6 February 2015 17: 59
    Padded jacket, good offtopic already. The hostility is clear, the reasons are clear, and I agree. But do not get fooled and do not clog the topic.

    Modernization of the tank - well, right by Krang! wink
  26. +3
    6 February 2015 18: 04
    Professor

    Ignorance just rushes from all holes. I understand that the word "junta" is very popular now, but only an ignoramus can tell it about and without reason. wink



    Do not "suvat" smile Professor Israel is a terrorist junta that kills children, women, old people in Gaza, Lebanon, "beats" in the back fighting against terrorists Syria, kills the valiant fighters of Hezbollah.
    In short, it is no different from the terrorists of Al-Nusra, Al-Qaeda and the IG.
    Where is the billion, mr.

    A billion already have your friends terrorist bandits trying to "destroy" Syria.
  27. -3
    6 February 2015 18: 19
    Author: padded jacket
    Do not "suvat" Professor Israel and there is a terrorist junta that kills children, women, old people in Gaza, Lebanon "hits" in the back fighting the terrorists Syria is killing the valiant fighters of Hezbollah.

    I shed a lot of tears. I was especially moved by the "valiant fighters of Hezbollah" shooting from holes and hiding behind their skirts women. such Shiite "valiant fighters" and followers of Hitler.





    Enlighten you what is "junta"? wink

    A billion already have your friends terrorist bandits trying to destroy "Syria.

    Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi. hi
  28. +2
    6 February 2015 18: 21
    As I understand it, chains and lattices scatter a cumulative rocket stream, but how are they against a tandem cumulative projectile?
    1. 0
      6 February 2015 18: 28
      Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
      As I understand it, chains and lattices scatter a cumulative rocket stream, but how are they against a tandem cumulative projectile?

      But not very. The probability of defeating equipment with such gratings is slightly lower than without it, but this is far from a panacea. In addition to the bars, they also put KAZ.



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        1. 0
          6 February 2015 20: 00
          Quote: igorka357
          shelling from all angles from RPG, destroy any tank ... and KAZ will not help !!!

          I immediately recognize the specialist. wassat
          1. +2
            6 February 2015 22: 07
            Right To overcome the KAZ, it is necessary on the contrary to fire from one angle.
            1. 0
              6 February 2015 23: 20
              Yes, I understand that the kaz needs reloading .. but at the same time, let's say from your five directions your KAZ will not save ... even they didn’t conduct the tests)) ... the developers of the type said there was a chance to repel the attack from several sides but didn’t check)) )! And the RPG-30 can cope with your kaz even with one shot! There was only one confirmed fact that the tank was saved from the rocket, but it was trumpeted to the whole world ... for that, it didn’t kill a woman from the trophy fragments .. Of course, can Israel say ... yes they say one tank saved this trophy ... and in five cases not a damn thing happened))))
          2. 0
            6 February 2015 23: 29
            We have one special here .... everything Israeli is cool ... everything else sucks .... but especially Soviet or Russian ..... you shoot down your shooters with RPGs and put them from one perspective ... so that when they are suddenly discovered, they’re lying there in a heap ... that's all. And with a competent approach from all angles and KAZ, yours will pass ... and the chance for the shooters to survive increases ... The KAZ will not be able to repel five missiles at once ...
        2. +3
          6 February 2015 20: 34
          Well done, that they put the bulldozer on. You can immediately see the care for the personnel. Let it be a ghostly, but a chance to stay alive. And to fire this bulldozer from all angles, you need to control these angles at least. I don’t think that the bulldozer works without cover.
  29. Next year
    +2
    6 February 2015 18: 24
    Professor, eat horseradish. Maybe it’s better.
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  31. -3
    6 February 2015 18: 44
    They are real fearless fighters.


    Their "fearless" commander is a national event when he leaves his bunker. Such "fearlessness" cannot be overlooked. Over the past 9 years, he came out 5 times like this for a quarter of an hour. This is the Shiite "recklessness" to broadcast from the bunker.

    padded jacket, I usually do not feed the trolls, but for your sake I will make an exception. Tell me what are the names of people who want to cleanse Jews, schools, universities, hospitals and the whole country?
    1. 0
      6 February 2015 19: 04
      Quote: professor
      Tell me what are the names of people who want to cleanse Jews, schools, universities, hospitals and the whole country?


      If these objects "and the whole country in general" are Russia, then these people are called Jews.
      Stop offtopic.
    2. -2
      6 February 2015 19: 59
      And these people do not have one nationality, they are about 70 percent of the world's population ... those who want to cleanse))) !!! I do not say that they dream of exterminating you, in any case ... just live only on your divine land you are welcome!!!!
  32. +2
    6 February 2015 18: 55
    Dear, I respect the people fighting for their homeland, regardless of whether the Israelis or the Ukrainians, but this is not modernization, this is a pathetic attempt to do anything, everything has been described and tested in combat conditions for a long time, so all disputes are not appropriate, but experience needs to be investigated and already at the modern level use on technology, in tactics, in preparation
  33. +2
    6 February 2015 19: 00
    By the way, here is a video about the protection of tanks in Syria, which was used in the "first stages" (I also had a video of an Iranian tank in grids in battle, but unfortunately YouTube deleted it)

    Professor

    And I am just such storytellers like you, amuse.
    Professor people just make a greeting gesture smile they do not become fascists from this.
    And unlike the Zionists, they do not propose creating a state only of Jews.
  34. +3
    6 February 2015 19: 11
    Professor people just make a gesture of greeting; they don’t become fascists from this.

    The fascist gesture of greeting is "just a gesture of greeting". How cute. And here they "just walk" with the Nazis.


    What other actions do you justify Natsik?
  35. +1
    6 February 2015 19: 14
    Another clear proof that there is nothing more stupid than a classic MBT, a standard "field" tank in the city. The issue of creating a special combat vehicle for battles in urban development has long been ripe.
    As I see it - short-barrel 152 mm. a howitzer gun similar to the one used on the KV-2 (naturally in the modern version) with high aiming angles, an automatic grenade launcher, a remotely controlled rifle-caliber machine gun, dynamic and active protection, a v-shaped bottom for protection against mines, remote booking, etc.
    1. +1
      7 February 2015 18: 45
      If you are minus, then at least argue.
  36. +1
    6 February 2015 19: 23
    Here are some more photos of these T-72 upgrades:




    It’s only a pity that four years of war have already passed and they have just begun this process.
  37. -2
    6 February 2015 19: 35
    there was information about armor for Armata - the new steel has an increased "armor resistance" by 15%.
    New steel is more expensive ...
    I had to do a new production ...

    And in Syria, they hung screens and chains - this gives an additional 20-45% "armor resistance"
    Economically Syrians have a better solution
    .
    1. +1
      6 February 2015 19: 42
      The country is simply "destroyed" by four years of war and they simply have no money for modernization and purchase of new equipment.
      And for free, like Israel, nobody gives them $ 3,2 billion a year.
      So that they could, they could.
    2. 0
      7 February 2015 18: 44
      From Molotov cocktails or against stones 20-45%? All these lattices with chains are solely for complacency. It is another matter if instead of gratings, armored plates of cemented armor at least 10 mm thick were hung. Then it would be good.
      By the way, the tanks of the Syrians are practically all without DZ containers.
  38. +1
    6 February 2015 19: 45
    Quote: bazilio
    Ohhohohohho .... We started with a makeshift and semi-artisanal improvement of armor, and again we ended up talking about Israel, the Jews, who pulled something from someone ..... Professor, I wish you patience and nerves for stronger))))))

    And they started again because the professor crawled out and started again to cheat everything))) !!!!
  39. -3
    6 February 2015 19: 46
    Author: padded jacket

    And for free, like Israel, nobody gives them $ 3,2 billion a year.
    So that they could, they could.

    Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi.
    In 2005, 75% of Soviet debt was written off to Syria - $ 10 billion.
    Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2133827
  40. +3
    6 February 2015 19: 48
    Professor

    The fascist gesture of greeting is "just a gesture of greeting". How cute. And here they "just walk" with the Nazis.


    What other actions do you justify Natsik?

    Professor, is that Ruholla Musavi Khomeini walking among the soldiers of the Jews who fought on the side of Hitler? belay
  41. +2
    6 February 2015 19: 58
    padded jacket
    Professor, is that Ruholla Musavi Khomeini walking among the soldiers of the Jews who fought on the side of Hitler?


    No, it's your favorite mufti who "welcomes" Nazis like ... well, you know.
  42. +5
    6 February 2015 20: 06
    Professor

    Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi.
    In 2005, Syria was written off 75% of Soviet debt - $ 10 billion.
    Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2133827

    Again you are a storyteller distorting and misinterpreting.
    The requested 10 billion is not cash, it is a debt that in the current conditions, when terrorists hired by the United States, Israel and the PZ countries attack it, Syria is simply not able to return it.
    In exchange for a "forgiveness" of the debt, Syria wanted to buy weapons and manufactured goods from us, but a mercenary attack by the United States and Israel canceled these plans.
    And the US gives you 3 billion dollars for free every year.
  43. -4
    6 February 2015 20: 13
    Author: padded jacket
    Again you are a storyteller distorting and misinterpreting.
    The requested 10 billion is not cash, it is a debt that in the current conditions, when terrorists hired by the United States, Israel and the PZ countries attack it, Syria is simply not able to return it.
    In exchange for a "forgiveness" of the debt, Syria wanted to buy weapons and manufactured goods from us, but a mercenary attack by the United States and Israel canceled these plans.


    These 10 billion gratuitous aid does not include the tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" and the lion's share of donated military equipment. And the fact that Syria unleashed 4 wars and in all these wars blew through the merit of Syria itself.

    We go further. Iranian assistance to Syria:
    Iran boosts military support in Syria to bolster Assad
  44. +2
    6 February 2015 20: 14
    Professor

    No, it's your favorite mufti who "welcomes" Nazis like ... well, you know.


    Really - the Zionists belay
  45. -3
    6 February 2015 20: 21
    Author: padded jacket

    No, it's your favorite mufti who "welcomes" Nazis like ... well, you know.

    Really - the Zionists

    You dear, you. Take a closer look. He had the same dream as you: to cleanse the country of the Jews.

    Take a walk. I won’t feed you anymore, it’s boring. hi
  46. +3
    6 February 2015 20: 25
    Professor, you like to remind everyone of the rules, so read:
    f) With all due respect to other languages, the language of communication in the comments to the published articles is Russian.
    And stop juggling, Israel is one of the most important centers for the spread of terrorism in the world and this does not even raise any doubts.
    So stop polluting the topic smile
  47. -1
    6 February 2015 21: 44
    from ordinary RPGs. More powerful RPGs, such as the RPG-29, the M79 Wasp, or the later RPG-7, are of course more likely to break through this protection from conventional RPGs. More powerful RPGs, such as RPG-29, M79 Wasp or later RPG-7, are of course more likely to break through such a defense.

    "Author" immediately into the furnace !!! M-79 who? who, what? older RPGs and newer RPG-7s? Stop smoking magic herb!

    All this crap like screens, chains, etc. is needed only if the enemy does not have serious anti-tank weapons. Anyone, even an old ATGM, does not care about these gypsy dances. It's just that active armor is too expensive to use against monkeys with an RPG-7 (this is the name of a grenade launcher, not ammunition for it). And then there was the loud word "program" of modernization! Laughter...
    1. +3
      6 February 2015 22: 01
      Quote: kontrobas
      Anyone even an old ATGM do not care for these gypsy dances

      Not really, dear, not really ...

      For example, grids are needed to destroy a cumulative funnel before an explosion. And therefore, deeply plane-parallel, how powerful is the cumulative charge ...
  48. +3
    6 February 2015 22: 08
    Damn, they spoiled such an interesting branch ...
    1. -2
      6 February 2015 22: 22
      Quote: Spade
      Damn, they spoiled such an interesting branch ...

      Thank the padded jacket. hi
      1. +4
        6 February 2015 23: 35
        I have to thank you .. I wouldn’t get out again with insults to our technology, I wouldn’t even remember about you, and everything would be fine !!!!
    2. 0
      6 February 2015 22: 46
      Kars (6) UA Today, 15: 08 ↑

      Padded radish come out of the emergency))))) scary?

      I don’t just want to spend “life” on the Ukrainian "troll", I need them for another.
      -----------------------------------------------------------
      But what is this tank? Today on many forums flickered (or photoshop?):
      1. +1
        6 February 2015 23: 07
        Quote: quilted jacket
        But what is this tank? Today on many forums flickered (or photoshop?):

        This is generally a very old topic. http://rufor.org/showthread.php?t=5011

        This is a mass and size model of "Burlak". Has it surfaced again?
        1. 0
          6 February 2015 23: 16
          It is clear, but there are other photos without a tarp, so to speak in all its glory?
    3. +2
      6 February 2015 23: 36
      Who started crap on the t-72? Correctly our deeply salted ..... oh dear professor !!!!
      1. 0
        7 February 2015 01: 12
        The skin here is also the Iranian T-72 for comparison:
  49. +2
    8 February 2015 15: 56
    Quote: igorka357
    And these people do not have one nationality, they are about 70 percent of the world's population ... those who want to cleanse))) !!! I do not say that they dream of exterminating you, in any case ... just live only on your divine land you are welcome!!!!

    Judging by the minuses to this my attack ..)))) the Jews do not want to live on their land ... they want to live around the world))) !!!!
    1. +1
      8 February 2015 18: 16
      And Us Rat

      During the 4 years of the war in Siri, more than 80% of civilian casualties were from the hands of the Assad group.


      Can you prove it?
      Or he invented lol

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