Hungarian MP: no ethnic Hungarian should fight for Poroshenko

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The Committee on National Security of the Hungarian Parliament raised the issue of preventing the recruitment of ethnic Hungarians compactly living in Transcarpathia into the army of neighboring Ukraine, the newspaper reported Look.

Hungarian MP: no ethnic Hungarian should fight for Poroshenko


Of Ukraine, told the newspaper the deputy chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Hungarian Parliament, deputy head of the nationalist Jobbik faction Marton Gyöngyos.

Correspondent: “Mr. Gyöngyösi, you call for the fact that ethnic Hungarians should not serve in the army of Ukraine. But doesn’t Ukraine as a sovereign state have the right to determine who, when and in what quantity should serve in its army? ”

MP: “If we analyze the crisis in Ukraine from the very beginning, from the moment when President Yanukovych refused to sign an association agreement with the EU in November 2013, we’ll see that Ukraine is facing a geopolitical war between the West - on the one hand, and Russia - other.

What happened on Independence, carefully planned by the West. With the help of various NGOs, propaganda of the media and other public organizations, they managed to deprive Yanukovich of power in Ukraine. Now we see that Poroshenko’s government has a large number of foreigners and people with dual citizenship who are pursuing the interests of the United States and the West. The war that President Poroshenko began is in the interests of the United States only, but not in the interests of any European country. ”

Correspondent: “Sorry, you did not answer the question. Yet why do you think that in this case the ethnic principle is more important than the principle of citizenship? After all, Ukraine calls its citizens, not the citizens of Hungary. What does it matter who they are from an ethnic point of view? ”

MP: “Poroshenko keeps the Hungarian minority living in the West of Ukraine in captivity and forces them to fight in the chauvinistic goals of the Ukrainian government. Hungarians in Transcarpathia have no interest in this conflict generated by the West.

Poroshenko must end this conflict, beginning the process of decentralization of Ukraine. It should give wide autonomy to all nationalities living in Ukraine - including the Russians in the South-East, as well as to the Hungarians in the West.

This war turned European countries against Russia. The EU imposed economic sanctions against Russia, and also began to provide military assistance to Ukraine. It may not be in our interest. We have to give it up. ”

Correspondent: “Is it possible to say that the parliamentary forces of Hungary were united in their opposition to the mobilization of ethnic Hungarians in the Armed Forces of Ukraine?”

MP: “In fact, Jobbik is the only Hungarian party that has clearly expressed its position regarding the Hungarians living in the Transcarpathian region of Ukraine. We unequivocally advocate that not a single Hungarian should be drafted into the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This is not our war. Not one Hungarian should fight for Poroshenko.

As for the position of other Hungarian political forces, I note: the President of the Transcarpathian Hungarian Cultural Association Laszlo Brenzovich, the Hungarian Foreign Minister, and the Prime Minister stated that the call of the Hungarians in the Ukrainian Armed Forces should not be disproportionate. That is, it turns out that for them the proportional call of the Hungarians in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is normal. For us, this is absolutely unacceptable. We believe that the army of Ukraine is fighting against its own people. "

Correspondent: “Not only traditional critics of the EU line, but also the liberal party LMP, which traditionally stands for close ties with the EU and NATO, expressed their protests. How can you comment on this? "

MP: “The LMP is a Euro-Atlantic party. They advocate the geopolitical interests of the atlantists. We have never heard them speak out for autonomy for the Hungarians of Transcarpathia. This party has a bright anti-Russian policy. They have repeatedly expressed the point of view that Russia invaded the territory of Ukraine, etc.

But if the LMP has changed its position and opposes the mobilization of the Hungarians in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then we can only welcome this decision. I hope that this also means that this party has managed to finally understand the true nature of the crisis in Ukraine. It is also the fact that the Ukrainian government works in the geopolitical interests of the United States. And everything Poroshenko does goes against the interests of Ukraine and the people of this country. ”
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  1. +15
    5 February 2015 13: 30
    Our person, I, in the sense, is sane. And then the Western zombies have already got it, honestly.
    1. +5
      5 February 2015 13: 32
      He says correctly, there’s nothing to add. Do not die for other people's political games.
      1. +5
        5 February 2015 13: 37
        Well said. In Transcarpathia, only two languages, Hungarian and Russian, have tried and are trying to impose Ukrainian. Hungary v.
        1. jjj
          +1
          5 February 2015 13: 48
          In 1956, the Hungarians were the first to oppose the USSR. Now they are the first to oppose the European Union
          1. +5
            5 February 2015 14: 00
            Quote: jjj
            In 1956, the Hungarians were the first to oppose the USSR. Now they are the first to oppose the European Union


            And in the 40s of the last century, the Hungarians opposed the USSR as part of the Wehrmacht. And before that, in 1914, as part of Austria-Hungary, together with Kaiser Wilhelm against the Russian Empire.
            Hungarians are pursuing their goals, and these goals have a very indirect relation to Russia's support.
            1. xan
              +1
              5 February 2015 14: 03
              Quote: DV69
              Hungarians are pursuing their goals, and these goals have a very indirect relation to Russia's support.

              Only with those that have their own goals is worth dealing with.
              Bismarck "It is indecent for a power in the international arena to have not its own goals."
              1. +1
                5 February 2015 14: 15
                Quote: xan
                Only with those that have their own goals is worth dealing with.


                This is of course correct.
                However, I did not write about this. I’m trying to say that the position of the Hungarian nationalist party Jobbik is not at all support for Russia's position on the Ukrainian issue. It is rather the use of the current situation in order to increase its own territory.
            2. +2
              5 February 2015 14: 30
              DV69 RU Today, 14:00 ↑

              Yes, just the Hungarians drooled from the desire to grab Transcarpathia !!! And nothing more !!!


              They are there where it is profitable for them and while it is profitable !!!
          2. +1
            5 February 2015 14: 01
            Quote: jjj
            Hungarians in 1956 were the first to oppose the USSR.


            The first to support democratic reforms and exit from the "socialist camp"
      2. +1
        5 February 2015 13: 47
        Quote: vodolaz
        Our person, I, in the sense, is sane. And then the Western zombies have already got it, honestly.

        Quote: vodolaz
        He says correctly, there’s nothing to add. Do not die for other people's political games.


        This person in the interests of Hungary really said everything correctly. And he suggests not dying for political games not only in the USA but also in Ukraine.

        “Poroshenko keeps the Hungarian minority living in the West of Ukraine in captivity and forces them to fight in the chauvinistic goals of the Ukrainian government. Hungarians in Transcarpathia have no interest in this conflict generated by the West.
        Poroshenko must end this conflict, beginning the process of decentralization of Ukraine. It should give wide autonomy to all nationalities living in Ukraine - including the Russians in the South-East, as well as to the Hungarians in the West.
        This war turned European countries against Russia. The EU introduced economic sanctions against Russia, and also began to provide military assistance to Ukraine. It may not be in our interests. We must give up on this.».


        Thus, Marton Gyöngyesi openly calls for ethnic Hungarians living in Ukraine to disobey the ruling country.
        Judging by these statements, Hungary is ready to begin the process of annexing Transcarpathia to itself. In addition, this is direct pressure on a neighboring country.
        And pay attention to the Rusyns who live there are not words. Nobody is going to take into account their interests.
      3. bif
        0
        5 February 2015 16: 15
        Quote: vodolaz
        He says correctly, there’s nothing to add. Do not die for other people's political games.

        I propose that our government also forbid dill to call on ETHNIC RUSSIANS to its civil war ... sort it out yourself, smart fascists.
    2. +1
      5 February 2015 13: 40
      Quite logical and sensible speeches of the Hungarian deputy, there would be more of these in Geyrop.
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    4. +3
      5 February 2015 13: 41
      The peasant said everything about the case, but either because he was Hungarian, or because the word "parliament" sounded, he remembered Hasek's immortal novel "The Adventures of the Good Soldier Schweik." Expression for all parliaments:
      "In an insane asylum, everyone could say whatever came into his head, as if in parliament."
      He said something, but what's the point?
      1. +2
        5 February 2015 13: 58
        As for Schweik and the parliament, everything is to the point. Only in the end, in Europe, even to say against the general line, is worth a lot and requires some courage.
      2. 0
        5 February 2015 14: 00
        Just Velikoukry too arrogantly run into the Finno-Ugric peoples. Practically turned this phrase into a curse word.

        Here is the Hungarian / Ugr and offended fellow
    5. +1
      5 February 2015 13: 48
      Quote: bort4145
      Our man, I in the sense - is sane.


      I agree with the adequate Magyar.
      1. 0
        5 February 2015 16: 06
        Ehhh guys ... I thought so at first too (like - Oh! Man)
        But I think let me check how Jobbik is and what kind of politician it is.
        And wrote off with the Hungarian (our supplier).
        I will tell you an adequate girl, unlike the rest of the Hungarians.
        He understands the topic with Ukraine, Russia. It is not conducted on local media and wants to buy an old real UAZ 469y.
        In general, a translator will help you.
        There are only answers.
        *****************************************
        - but they think about themselves, they are very dangerous
        u know it is just about money .. and bad political situation .. they used up, there is a lot of poor and disappointed people

        - maybe they have some truth .. in fragments .. but .. nobody say to me in Hungary nowadays, the outlanders are bad things .. if 2 million people from Hungary go abroad to live and work)))
        they just make money from their radical viewpoints, thats all
        they dont wanna decide I think
        *************
        Well, the reason why it is so ... yes, everything is very simple - the economic situation in Hungary is, to put it mildly, bad. I will not say what she told me (so as not to provoke an international scandal), but from her words there are very depressed regions of Hungary.
    6. 0
      5 February 2015 14: 50
      how can a foreign state dictate something to another state ?!
      they are residents "have not died yet" - all are one
    7. 0
      5 February 2015 15: 19
      It is time for Putin to declare that no ethnic Russian should fight for Poroshenko!
  2. +2
    5 February 2015 13: 32
    Well done, he said it right! But against, let him fight!
    1. 0
      5 February 2015 13: 36
      unequivocally support
    2. 0
      5 February 2015 14: 42
      He said something right, but the trouble is that no one hears it or pretends not to hear it. For Americans, Hungary is one of the countries located somewhere overseas.
      They don’t know, and I suppose they don’t want to know what Europeans think and say.
  3. +1
    5 February 2015 13: 32
    Hungarian correctly said.
  4. -1
    5 February 2015 13: 32
    "There is a geopolitical war in Ukraine between the West on the one hand and Russia on the other."

    Damn, and this blanket there too!
    1. -1
      5 February 2015 13: 39
      And what did he say wrong?
      1. 0
        5 February 2015 14: 38
        Of course. What does Russia have to do with it?
        1. 0
          5 February 2015 14: 40
          And with whom, then, is a geopolitical war? Has Russia ended already? Did I miss something?
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  5. +10
    5 February 2015 13: 32
    Hungarian MP: no ethnic Hungarian should fight for Poroshenko
    And the "storm" is gaining momentum, and not only in the east, but also in the west ...
    Mr. Poroshenko, do you WISH to fight so much? Then follow the example of Zakharchenko ... He is not an example for you. Well, then from the King of Jordan, who said, in response to the monstrous execution of his pilot: "We wake up to bomb the IS until we run out of ammunition and fuel, and then go hand-to-hand ..." Take an example, King of Jordan,
    CAM goes to combat sorties.
    1. +5
      5 February 2015 13: 56
      svp67
      Mr. Poroshenko, you so WISH to fight? Then take an example from Zakharchenko ... He is not an example for you. Well, then, from the King of Jordan, who ... CAM goes on combat missions.

      In October 2014, Igor Plotnitsky, the head of the LPR, in a letter sent to Poroshenko, suggested to him: “Let us come together in a duel following the example of the ancient Slavic leaders and glorious Cossack chieftains. Whoever wins, he dictates his conditions to the opposite side. ” At the same time, he chose the place of the duel and the right to choose a weapon.
      If this proposal were not made in writing, but with direct contact, the conversation would have been approximately in this format:
      - Poroshenko, you are a coward and a scoundrel. I challenge you to a duel!
      - I will not come.
      - Why not?
      “Because I'm a coward and a scoundrel.”
      1. +2
        5 February 2015 15: 09
        Quote: AQUARIUS 65
        - I will not come.
        It was probably akin to this ...
  6. 0
    5 February 2015 13: 34
    In the Yarosh reason.
  7. +2
    5 February 2015 13: 34
    The National Security Committee of the Hungarian Parliament raised the issue of preventing the draft of neighboring ethnic Hungarians compactly living in Transcarpathia in the army of neighboring Ukraine

    Here it is only possible to support the Hungarians with both hands. How their prime minister supported Russia.
    1. +1
      5 February 2015 13: 46
      We can not disagree with the Hungarian deputy.
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  8. 0
    5 February 2015 13: 35
    He says something right, but how do ethno-Hungarians actually behave?
    1. 0
      5 February 2015 13: 46
      Quote: aszzz888
      but how do ethno-Hungarians actually behave?

      They simply cross the border and sit on the territory of Hungary ...
  9. +2
    5 February 2015 13: 36
    Zakharchenko at a press conference said that Rusyns and Hungarians will be released from the boiler
    1. 0
      5 February 2015 13: 47
      I didn’t enter. And how will they be distinguished? A language test or DNA test? what
  10. +2
    5 February 2015 13: 36
    This is called "Imperial thinking" (In a good way !!!!) "Mazu" is ready to hold for fellow countrymen.
    In general, the shame of Geyropa feel
  11. +1
    5 February 2015 13: 37
    Hungarian MP: no ethnic Hungarian should fight for Poroshenko

    It’s against, please!
  12. +1
    5 February 2015 13: 49
    Hungarians keep it up! Apparently only the Hungarians have remained national pride! and the rest of the gay union became intermarried by canine reproduction, fulfilling the decree of the party of Yankistan!
  13. +1
    5 February 2015 13: 50
    Quote: Giant thought
    Quite logical and sensible speeches of the Hungarian deputy, there would be more of these in Geyrop.

    He says everything correctly, no doubt! And I will be glad to be mistaken, but on the horizon I really want to have a "flexible" gas contract.
  14. 0
    5 February 2015 13: 50
    Quote: Jovanni
    Hungarian MP: no ethnic Hungarian should fight for Poroshenko

    It’s against, please!

    Great, I think that the Hungarians will give refuge to their compatriots.
  15. 0
    5 February 2015 13: 54
    To abandon the bloody slaughter in \ on is necessary not only to Hungarians, but to all THINKERS! May God grant strength and health to the fighters protecting their homeland ...
  16. 0
    5 February 2015 13: 54
    All the same, there are smart people in Europe. Yes
  17. 0
    5 February 2015 13: 57
    Now it will be bitten by the Yankees on one side, and on the other, the dill will grow apart, which is support for separatism
  18. MSL
    0
    5 February 2015 14: 01
    He speaks correctly, for the Hungarians, and paves the way for the division of the Square.
    As if the Poles were not late. The divide went!
  19. LIP
    0
    5 February 2015 14: 02
    Yes, it turns out that in Western countries there are still sensible politicians.
    This is good!
  20. 0
    5 February 2015 14: 09
    However, there are Hungarians in the boiler.
    1. 0
      5 February 2015 14: 17
      Quote: Neophyte
      However, there are Hungarians in the boiler.


      And what surprises you. Hungarians in Ukraine also live.
  21. REGULUS
    0
    5 February 2015 14: 17
    If we don’t give weapons, it means they already give it, we won’t fight, it means they’re already fighting ... so nothing new sounds here, just legalization of facts stop
  22. 0
    5 February 2015 15: 11
    Quote: bort4145
    Our person, I, in the sense, is sane. And then the Western zombies have already got it, honestly.

    Not ours and not particularly sane, just pursuing its political interests. From Ukraine they need a piece of territory, and from Russia gas is desirable not through Turkey. Just a practical look at reality.
  23. kelevra
    0
    5 February 2015 15: 16
    That's right, you need to fight against it! And in general, chop off some of the dill bordering Hungary!
  24. 0
    5 February 2015 16: 08
    Quote: bort4145
    Our person, I, in the sense, is sane. And then the Western zombies have already got it, honestly.

    So I want to exclaim, well, on x ...! Really see! Or until the Hungarians touched, were they waiting?
    And if, suddenly, the Ukrainians won ???
  25. 0
    5 February 2015 16: 27
    Quote: DV69
    And pay attention to the Rusyns who live there are not words. Nobody is going to take into account their interests.

    the salvation of drowning, the work of the drowning themselves ...
    1. 0
      5 February 2015 20: 03
      Quote: reservist
      Quote: DV69
      And pay attention to the Rusyns who live there are not words. Nobody is going to take into account their interests.

      the salvation of drowning, the work of the drowning themselves ...


      How to understand your post. Do you think that Rusyns should save themselves?
      This is not our method.
  26. 0
    5 February 2015 17: 07
    (In fact, Jobbik is the only Hungarian party that has clearly expressed its position regarding Hungarians living in the Transcarpathian region of Ukraine. We unequivocally advocate that not a single Hungarian be drafted into the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This is not our war. Not a single Hungarian should not fight for Poroshenko.)

    Magyar is right. But it must be added that not a single normal Ukrainian, if he is a patriot of his torn Motherland, should fight for the Poroshenko gang. For it is fraught with the complete loss of this very homeland. negative

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