Russia needs two conditions for a breakthrough

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Russia needs two conditions for a breakthrough


The current economic crisis in Russia is a completely new reality, and in order to survive and overcome it, one must understand and accept this reality. Essentially speaking, this is not a crisis as such - as a natural, albeit unexpected, consequence of objective factors - but the result of rough economic pressure from the West. We were dragged into an economic war in which the West is the aggressor and Russia is the victim.

And here the laws of the market, to which we were accustomed to all the post-Soviet years, no longer apply: they manifested themselves in a particularly wild form in previous crises, when everyone is for himself and the one who grabs the most survives.

No, now the laws of the Patriotic War are more and more relevant, when it is possible to survive and win only by uniting and acting in solidarity in the name of victory, when social justice does not contradict efficiency, but is its integral part.

In the meantime, many of us react to the crisis in the spirit of the notorious market. When, under the guise of dollar growth, sellers of goods and services not related to the dollar, increase prices by 200-600%, not wanting to lag behind imported goods.

When, under the pretext of cutting costs, top managers throw people out on the street, and leave their bonuses in the budget as effective expenses.

When officials, instead of weakening the levies on medium and small business, stifle it even more.

When banks, which have lost the ability to borrow money in the West, take rubles from the state and run to exchange them for dollars, the more weakening our currency; when big capitalists do not want to follow the example of Usmanov, Vekselberg and return assets to Russian jurisdiction, but hope to survive offshore.

When big-name patriots, at the first weakening of the ruble, run to the exchange office and buy dollars.

These are all old habits developed in our liberal, non-sovereign economic model. However, now this behavior is tantamount to suicide. The growth of the dollar is not so terrible (there was more), as our own reaction to the weak ruble: to quickly buy the currency and raise prices. The fall in oil prices and the loss of surplus profits are not so terrible as the hysteria of the Russian establishment for this: why, we will not be able to have an annual profit growth of hundreds of percent!

The challenges facing the country are not so terrible as the unwillingness of Russian officials to understand the chances that the aggression of the West gives Russia to Russia is pernicious. After all, we are actually forced to become independent and self-sufficient.

Russia needs a new economic model, new rules of life. Actually, the Russian leadership has been preparing for this all the years, restoring the economy and creating points of growth, while allowing people to eat up and improve their life: as Igor Shuvalov, who represented the first anti-crisis measures, said in the State Duma, all the previous fifteen years, the Russian leadership made a choice in favor of the growth of social security of citizens and did not embark on painful structural changes in the economy, largely for the reason that the people themselves were not ready for this.

Having experienced terrible shocks and losses in the 90s, when reformers broke the country over the knee for the sake of their dogmas and the interests of their Western "partners", in the following Putin years, Russian citizens - both the elite and everyone else - happily sat on the oil needle, and more addition - on the petrodollar.

However, the very first signs that the Kremlin was going to get rid of the petrodollar and was preparing, on the basis of the Eurasian Economic Union, a smooth transition to an alternative dollar financial model, led the West, using Ukraine as a detonator, decided to thwart these plans and bring Russia down before it will become uncontrolled by the Fed.

And now we will have to switch to a new model under the blows of the dollar system, being still dependent on it. Yes, Russia needs development - modernization, mobilization, industrialization, call it whatever you like. The main thing is to make a breakthrough, high-quality development in a short time. And it is clear that such a leap is impossible without exerting strength and certain hardships.

Neither Stalin's industrialization, nor Roosevel's modernization, nor even more so the Chinese economic miracle, was accomplished, as Dmitry Kiselev correctly noted in his yesterday's program, "tenderly and richly." It has always been associated with at least "tightening the belts" today for the sake of "untied belts" tomorrow, for the sake of the prospect of a better life. Life not only for your own, but for the whole country.

But when Deputy Prime Minister Shuvalov, announcing the transition to a new model and trying to formulate motivation, uses the long-standing liberal clichés "either development or social spending", and Kiselev even scares people with "shock therapy", then this can only demoralize and ruin the correct message ... Nothing of the kind should even be discussed.

Shock therapy is just a tool of the dollar system in relation to the conquered countries, the population of which is specially placed in conditions of survival, and the creative ability of the economy is reduced to zero. It is carried out by local foreign agents who are paid to destroy the national economy. Actually, shock therapy is now being carried out in Ukraine, and as a result, the country is on the verge of collapse in a matter of months.

In today's Russia, the situation is reversed. Despite the pressure from the United States and the entire West, which demand from the Kremlin a return to liberal forms of extermination of the people of the 90s, the Russian leadership is choosing the path of upholding sovereignty. And for the sake of this, it is ready to enter into confrontation with the West - both in the Donbass and on the economic front.

Therefore, the only way out for Russia is to accelerate the change of the economic model with a stake on the real sector and the ruble, which are not tied to the dollar. It is clear that during the transition from the old model to the new one will require a colossal strain on the resources of the country and the population.

This means, among other things, a reduction in social spending, and increased requirements for each citizen, and much more from the realities of mobilization development.

However, at least two conditions are important here. The first is the example of the country's top officials and the elite, who should be the first to switch to new principles of the economy and life in general: justice, responsibility, and universal solidarity.

The people must see and understand that the authorities and the elite will go along with them to the end. Moreover, those who set an example of serving the state and society, who will “tighten their belts” first to themselves, and then to their subordinates and those around them, should become the elite.

And the second condition, closely related to the first, is that each of us can clearly see that the resources saved by the country and the goods and services produced by the people go to the very qualitative development of Russia, and not to the private illegal property of individuals.

It's not about everything being perfect, it's about principles. And they are simple and understandable to everyone: we must together help Russia win the clash with the West and reach a new level of development in order to preserve it and glorify it for centuries.

If Russia is good, it will be good for us and our children in the future. We are ready for hardships and difficulties, but with a fair and even distribution of them among all.
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  1. +27
    5 February 2015 05: 47
    I liked these moments very much.
    However, at least two conditions are important here. The first is the example of the country's top officials and the elite, who should be the first to switch to new principles of the economy and life in general: justice, responsibility, and universal solidarity.

    The people must see and understand that the authorities and the elite will go along with them to the end. Moreover, those who set an example of serving the state and society, who will “tighten their belts” first to themselves, and then to their subordinates and those around them, should become the elite.

    And the second condition, closely related to the first, is that each of us can clearly see that the resources saved by the country and the goods and services produced by the people go to the very qualitative development of Russia, and not to the private illegal property of individuals.

    It looks like science fiction.
    1. +44
      5 February 2015 05: 50
      The current economic crisis in Russia is ... the result of rough economic pressure from the West. (from article)


      You are wrong, Eduard Birov. The current economic crisis in Russia is the result of the liberal development of the state.
      It is not the West and the United States that are to blame for this crisis. Our liberal leaders of state, presidents Putin, Medvedev, even earlier Yeltsin, and their leading liberal parties are to blame. How many of them there were already and can not be counted, now "United Russia".
      It was they who were destroying the self-sufficient economy and industry, agriculture of Russia.
      It was they who carried out criminal privatizations, for criminal investments (from foreigners) of Russian enterprises, renting them out for a penny. And it would be good for improving the work of enterprises, but not in most cases for the sake of closing these enterprises and eliminating a competitor.
      The current crisis, like the previous ones in Russia, is the result of Russian liberals in power.
      1. +1
        5 February 2015 07: 06
        It is always easier to criticize the authorities than to understand the essence of the problem! Why Putin became a liberal ??? Who, no matter how he is, is pursuing a policy to reduce dependence on the West! Who is raising the army? Isn't it Putin? The army is needed to have physical protection in case our actions to change the world system come across military pressure! Or maybe the world system suits you? Everything is done, but smoothly and prudently! Only in a fairy tale you can use the "stick" and everything will come true .. IGNORANCE is another problem! Think wider, I’ll even say so .. just think !!!
        1. +23
          5 February 2015 07: 52
          IGNORANCE - that's another problem! Think more broadly, I'll even say so.. just think!!! - krot


          Appeals: "Shirshe, and as deep as possible", stupidity is not measured.
          Look at the history of the last 25 years of Russia's "development", continuing the slogans from the Government of the Russian Federation and its head, unsuitable for the post of prime minister, Medvedev, and even the speeches of Putin himself:
          - "about the constant continuation of Russia's movement along the path of European liberalism",
          - "continuation of the policy of privatization of the remnants of state property",
          - "about the invariable openness of Russia for foreign investment" with the simultaneous sending of its accumulated finances to American and European banks at a meager percentage,
          - "about the inefficiency of the state owner",
          - about the empty fight against the offshorization of the economy,
          - ten-year empty and false slogans of "support for small and medium-sized businesses",
          - about "the impossibility of fighting corruption, since we are not 37 years old",
          - and so on, so on, so on.
          Maybe then, you start to wonder what kind of power we have in Russia?
          Understand that in Russia power belongs to the oligarchic liberal bourgeoisie, which defends its interests in the international imperialist struggle of the bourgeois states, but in no way the interests of the people of Russia.
          However, what am I trying to do, hurray-patriots, not burdened with the proper knowledge of history and social sciences, can only repeat simple slogans: "Who is raising the army? Is it not Putin? The army is needed ... in case our actions to change the world system will stumble upon military pressure! "," Hurray, Washington, "and other rubbish.
          1. +10
            5 February 2015 09: 49
            Quote: vladimirZ
            In Russia, power belongs to the oligarchic liberal bourgeoisie, which defends its interests in the international imperialist struggle of the bourgeois states, but in no way the interests of the people of Russia.

            Absolutely right.
            1. +8
              5 February 2015 10: 43
              ... well, if we are talking about the country's economic breakthrough ...
              ... then, in my opinion, the first thing to do ... is to call a spade a spade ... for example, mining - mining, not production ... and then a lot will fall into place ... and production - it is a final product that can be used, and ... with as much added value as possible ... then it will be possible to talk about an increase in production
              ... to admit it hurts the ear when they talk about an increase in production ... I just want to ask "Did you, or what? ... produced gas, oil ... and so on? ... no, you extracted it from the earth ( countries) ... and sold over the hill "... and this can be compared, with the extraction of copper from high-voltage wires ... by cutting them ...
              ... the problem is at the root ... in terminology
              1. WKS
                0
                5 February 2015 12: 38
                Quote: Oleg NSK
                call a spade a spade ... for example, mining - mining, not production ... and then a lot will fall into place

                Whatever you call it, the essence will not change. Oil producers like to produce oil - let them produce it, you like to extract it - extract it. The main thing is what to do with this product next, sell it abroad or process it yourself and then sell it abroad.
                1. +2
                  5 February 2015 14: 07
                  Whatever you call it - the essence does not change.

                  ... I do not agree with you .... this is the whole point ...
                  ... when they want to deceive a person, they hide the name (i.e. the concept) of things, as for example it was with vouchers ... Anglicism was deliberately used, because if they called it the personal share of each person from Russia ... people think would it be so easy to part with them? ... and when some kind of voucher, and even under specially prepared conditions (empty store shelves) ... this is pure deception ...
                  ... in the case of the concept of "production", there is not just a substitution of concepts ... but a substitution of the meaning of concepts ....
                  ... so in this case, the point is in the name
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                3. Userpic
                  +2
                  5 February 2015 16: 56
                  Quote: wks
                  The main thing is what to do with this product next: sell it abroad or process it ourselves and then sell it abroad.

                  That is, everything is the finish line? laughing
                  Is it not destiny without foreign countries?

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          2. Andrejka
            +2
            5 February 2015 12: 16
            I'll find cons, it's not accepted in Russia to point to the logs in the eye, but oh well!
            You talk about ignorance of history:
            who in the USSR did not allow the people to live in peace?
            not for chewing gum with jeans "dumplings" in 1991 fought?
            Was it not the Russians in the 90s who looked into Yeltsin's mouth in the hope of prosperity as in the United States?
            Didn't Russians in the 2000s dream of anything other than social benefits like in the USSR, and at the same time buy used Mercedes instead of Zhiguli?
            Don't Russians buy iPhone or Samsung instead of iotophone? -but until WE start buying Russian, then this Russian will not appear - this is the law of economics!
            We are Russians, instead of studying to be a welder and turner, we are going to study to be an economist and a lawyer, and who will work?
            before we do something we look into the wallet of PUTIN, SECHIN and others like them, just forget that it is not Putin and Sechin who feed our children, but ourselves!
            Okay, you can go on for a long time, why am I tired of reading what are all correct and in all the troubles of the country only the government is to blame, EVERYONE is to blame!
            1. WKS
              -1
              5 February 2015 12: 50
              As we know, it is human nature to look for where it is better. Are you suggesting to change this? But it is impossible. There is no way to do this. We must proceed from reality.
              1. Andrejka
                -2
                5 February 2015 13: 31
                I agree it is human nature! It just might be enough to live by the motto: that man stole, but they didn’t give me anything, so he’s ko..el and I’m white and fluffy! There is such a biblical principle DO NOT JUDGE AND WE DO NOT JUDGE !!!! it is necessary to work and not look into other people's wallets! we RUSSIANS now demand to make a mobilization economy and the era of new industrialization, but when the question arises of what personally is ready to sacrifice, the cries of PUTINSLIL and the GOVERNMENT STATE immediately begin! There is a rule in history: there is no REVOLUTION without SACRIFICES, but we want not to sacrifice anything and so that an economic revolution occurs! It's time for everyone to understand, there is a WAR AGAINST RUSSIA! IT IS NECESSARY TO SACRIFICE, IT IS NECESSARY TO WORK, FOR A BRIGHT FUTURE, IT IS NECESSARY TO TRUST THE SUPREME - without the trust of the population, if a "color revolution" happens, our PRESIDENT will not withstand, but what does this lead to and who is behind this, we now perfectly see in Ukraine, but where RUSSIANS will not run!
                1. 0
                  5 February 2015 21: 16
                  Agree! Trust the Supreme - but how? If a blind man sees the mediocrity of the LADY and his entourage, and the GDP also sees, but does not "hand over" probably for "moral reasons." Only such a morality makes show-off in Ukraine meaningless. Convince me that in 10 years the country will not bend under this kind of governance.
            2. +1
              5 February 2015 16: 31
              you can go on for a long time ... and in all the troubles of the country only the government is to blame, EVERYONE is to blame! - Andreyka


              Everyone is to blame for allowing liberal democrats to come to power and for people not going to the polls. according to the principle “nothing depends on me”, “they will do it anyway as it is beneficial for those in power,” and other excuses for their laziness, misunderstanding of elections, albeit dishonest, partly falsified.
              Otherwise, not everyone is to blame. Specific people are guilty.
              In the collapse of industry, economic crises, the catastrophic export of currency abroad, speculation of currency on the stock exchange, as a result of which the collapse of the ruble, corruption, theft, etc., are guilty of specific persons of liberal orientation who allow these events: the President and the Government of the Russian Federation, the leadership of the Central Bank, deputies The State Duma, and others, other states pursuing a liberal policy.
              So that it is not necessary "to blame from a sore head to a healthy one."
              1. Andrejka
                0
                5 February 2015 18: 43
                Dear vladimirZ
                And where do you see a healthy head? First, I’ll ask you a couple of questions for thought:
                When you walk down the street and see a man lying, why does the majority pass by thinking that the drunk is lying-Putin is to blame?
                when you call in an ambulance and there you are rude, too, Putin is to blame?
                when schoolgirls "fly in" at 13-15 years old, too, Putin is to blame?
                when drunk drives drive, too, Putin is to blame? maybe Putin is to blame when on May Day holidays in the forests of the mountains of garbage are formed?
                The government has many sins, but we have no less! each of us is responsible for the future of the country - from our own work to raising children!
                Now about the crises, if you don't know the crisis did not start today, but started in 2008 and all over the world, if you objectively assess it and continues to this day! As for the ruble, if all the previous years, the Central Bank threw out billions of $ to maintain the ruble, which played on a hand to importers - "compradors" (who earned a lot of money on the ruble exchange rate and its relation to the price of goods) now importers either have to suffer losses or invest in production in Russia!
                If you do not like the Central Bank rate, then either you are not in the know or you are a speculator (The key rate is the rate on short-term loans, for a period of up to a week, which was mainly used for speculative actions, now the exchange is becoming expensive for the speculators) about the liberal policy, please explain ! For example, I do not see her too liberal, I even see her promising, but this is in the style of Glazyev!
                1. 0
                  6 February 2015 05: 12
                  Andrejka-e
                  The government has many sins, but we have no less! each of us is responsible for the future of the country - from our own work to raising children!

                  You cannot argue with this, as well as what you said about the scattered garbage, etc., BUT there is a different level of consequences of the acts committed (criminal and administrative term, if you do not know), and the corresponding punishment.
                  Scattered garbage is an administrative fine, and The "sins" of the Government, which led to the destruction of industry, agriculture, the economy, the growth of unemployment, the impoverishment of tens of millions of people, etc., are pulling at the times of I.V. Stalin to be shot, and by Western standards - by resignation and a prison term.
                  And here, in today's Russia, these deeds and the people who committed them do not even hear the words of reproaches from the guarantor of the Constitution.
                  Regarding the ruble, if in all previous years the Central Bank threw out billions of $ to support the ruble, which played into the hands ...
                  If you do not like the Central Bank rate, then either you do not know or you are a speculator ...

                  Well, this pearl of yours, in general, causes laughter and surprise.
                  All the people who come to the stores and are surprised by the exorbitant price increases, especially for food and medicine, and who are outraged by the inaction, or rather the deliberate actions of the government’s leadership to bring down the ruble, are they speculators?
                  Looks like you don't go shopping at all? What ideal world do you live in? With pink glasses?
                  You don't even know that the actions of the state leadership brought down the purchasing power of the Russian people. Calculate how much I think you can, given the dominance of imports, in view of the destruction of its own industry, and the growth of the dollar.
                  What can we discuss with you then?
          3. -2
            5 February 2015 15: 03
            "Calls:" Shirshe, and as deeply as possible, "stupidity is not measured."
            Apparently I got excited with an assessment in ignorance .. Here another problem seems like .. hurray, a communist, from the 80s, and a big load of unnecessary and useless knowledge about the statements of our government .. Do you prefer to hit the enemy's forehead? Then yes, you can disclose your intentions to overthrow the dollar, but this is how our "partners" will react to this? If you don't want to think wider, keep thinking narrowly!
        2. +9
          5 February 2015 08: 06
          IGNORANCE is another problem! Think wider, I’ll even say so .. just think !!!

          And here's a plus from the heart, dear "krot" / Pavel! good "Look at the root" - the famous Kozma Prutkov used to say. Unfortunately, not everyone is able to "rise above the feeder" ... request
          Did you read "The Wizard of the Emerald City" (by A.M. Volkov) as a child? Reread. And review the pictures - for clarity. Why did all the inhabitants of the Emerald City and its guests wear green glasses with clasps? Ouch! Fellow citizens! It's time to take off your glasses! hi
        3. +10
          5 February 2015 11: 25
          Mr. Mole, how long has Putin stopped being a liberal? Tolerance is one of the postulates of liberalism, of which there is only one thing: "we do not give up our own" in relation to thieves from druzhbanov. The army is also incomprehensible, rather it is intended to perform police functions, based on its structure. Although she began to show her teeth to the West after the domestic oligarchs were slightly thrown by the West on the loot. But at the same time, the President swears to the West in his commitment to this most Western way of life. An obvious split of consciousness and everything to the detriment of the country, it is not clear what role he plays with his patriotic slogans and obvious inaction in the internal life of the country, the second Gorbachev? If we really are on the verge of cataclysms, we must act immediately in all directions, and not chew gum. And then you want and prick and capital is not allowed.
        4. 0
          5 February 2015 13: 33
          Everything is true with one exception, our government is neoliberal, since the time of the Yeltsinoid. When will he (Putin) get rid of it? what
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          0
          5 February 2015 16: 45
          Quote: krot
          Why Putin became a liberal ???
          Who, no matter how he is, is pursuing a policy to reduce dependence on the West!


          Who is raising the army? Isn't it Putin?
          Is this an indicator of a lack of liberalism? laughing
          The US has at least one of the most powerful armies - aren't the liberals in charge there?

          Everything is done, but smoothly and prudently!
          IGNORANCE is another problem!
          But this, alas, is true.

          Putin signed this 15 years ago:
          No. 1024 of 09.09.99 Resolution on the approval of the "Concept of state property management and privatization".
          No. 1423-r dated 09.09.99 Order on the sale (privatization) of 67 ordinary shares of OAO Oil Company LUKOIL.
          No. 2166-r dated 31.12.99/48.99/XNUMX Order on the inclusion of OJSC Baikal Pulp and Paper Mill in the list of joint-stock companies producing products of strategic importance, on the assignment of XNUMX% of shares to federal ownership, and on the sale (privatization) of shares in excess of those assigned to federal ownership.
          №134-r dated 26.01.00 Order on the sale (privatization) of all shares of OJSC "SANDVIK-MKTS" in federal ownership.
          No. 234-r dated 10.02.00 Order on the withdrawal from the structure of railway transport and privatization of the Moscow Electromechanical Repair Plant and the Lyubertsy Plant "Plastmass".

          He has been signing the same thing lately:
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      3. +15
        5 February 2015 07: 39
        The main point of the government's anti-crisis program is the recapitalization of commercial banks. Remember the old joke:
        -In the year before last, we sowed 10 hectares of oats, all ate aphids; last year, we sowed oats with 20 hectares, again aphids ate everything; this year I propose to sow 40 ha with oats, nehai damned aphids will choke!
        It is necessary to make additional capitalization of the real sector, but only through other institutions and other mechanisms that are not related to anyone. banks.
        1. +6
          5 February 2015 11: 41
          It is high time to nationalize the banks and liquidate these usurers with their interest rates as a class. The state can also lend money to business, and then it will definitely be transparent. If you know how to make money, make money, if you only know how to steal, go to ...
          1. WKS
            0
            5 February 2015 13: 00
            Quote: varov14
            It is high time to nationalize the banks and liquidate these usurers with their interest rates as a class. The state can also lend money to business, and then it will definitely be transparent.

            How are you going to make bribes transparent to officials who will decide who to give a loan to?
      4. +9
        5 February 2015 07: 57
        Correctly stated, I agree completely, the demand should be from liberals with EdRom ...
      5. +3
        5 February 2015 08: 50

        It's not about everything being perfect, it's about principles. And they are simple and understandable to everyone: we must together help Russia win the clash with the West and reach a new level of development in order to preserve it and glorify it for centuries.


        Just look at the example of our fathers and grandfathers who sacrificed a lot for our future !!!
      6. +10
        5 February 2015 09: 53
        I completely agree with vladimirZ! All our troubles stem from the fact that we live under a liberal government, and according to Gaidar's precepts. And now all these tremors of the air that come from the lips of our ministers are no more than a theoretician. There are no real cases. Some programs, and that's it! Where is the support for the real sector of the economy? Where are the cheap loans? Where is the support for the ruble (it is in free float)? And without all these decisions there will be no rise, but there will be a fall! I do not believe in the government's anti-crisis program. Just remember, after a while it will be corrected, it may be recognized as erroneous and a new one will be developed, etc. , etc. ..Until the money goes directly to mechanical engineering, metallurgy, and other types of real production, all these programs are nothing more than shaking the air!
      7. wladimir
        -5
        5 February 2015 12: 21
        I do not quite agree, but the leadership is guilty of the previous liberal sins, but now it is necessary to restore order with a firm hand. And this ultra-patriotic call for a change of leadership, now it is disastrous
      8. 0
        5 February 2015 12: 26
        The eternal question - who owns the means of production and natural resources? They never belonged to the peoples. Tsars, landowners, capitalists, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, oligarchs ... Hence the upheavals, crises and wars.
      9. 0
        5 February 2015 21: 24
        There comes a time when it does not matter who is to blame!
        Now it’s important what to do !!! Now it’s important to save the homeland and loved ones.
        This is what we are talking about. 2-va Terms indicated.
        Domestic Guilty on the labor front and self-sufficiency.
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    3. +6
      5 February 2015 06: 09
      It turns out only one condition: that neither strangers nor their own should rob Russia.
      1. +8
        5 February 2015 06: 57
        The challenges facing the country are not so terrible as the unwillingness of Russian officials to understand the chances that the aggression of the West gives Russia to Russia. After all, we are actually forced to become independent and self-sufficient.
        Russia needs a new economic model, new rules of life.
        Rather, Russia needs not so much a new economic model as a return to the "old" economic model, with the dominance of the state as the governing role, and the basic basis of a planned economy, a renewed socialist orientation of the country's development. It is not the Russian officials who "rule", but the billionaire oligarchs, who actually own the power. The president here has to decide who he is with, who really are his friends. It is unlikely that our oligarchs benefit from the victory of the people's power in Novorossiya, this is a prerequisite for the emergence of a socialist bridgehead, with nationalization and other infringement of their selfish interests. If we talk about a "breakthrough", it is hardly possible without the return of socialism to Russia, or without a good muzzle for our capitalism, and a short leash for the Russian bourgeois billionaires.
        1. +14
          5 February 2015 10: 00
          Quote: Per se.
          The president here has to decide who he is with, who really are his friends.

          Didn't he decide this a long time ago?
          Are we feeding illusions?
          Friends, they are, as a rule, old friends. And Putin has old friends from St. Petersburg in the 90s. From the Sobchak-Chubais times and with the "market" mentality, Putin has friends.
          And Putin does not give up his own, which means there will be no breakthrough.
          Everything will be as before. The right words, the right calls and the continuation of the incompetent economic policy.
          1. Andrejka
            -4
            5 February 2015 12: 20
            And you know why there will be no breakthrough, because we citizens do not want this, give us increased pensions and cheap iPhones! not the same people today as during the Stalinist industrialization were-fattened
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              +1
              5 February 2015 17: 06
              Quote: Andrejka
              not the same people today as under Stalin's industrialization was

              And the goals with the meanings of the leadership are "somewhat" different.

              1. Andrejka
                0
                5 February 2015 18: 48
                Excuse me, Userpik (8), but remind me of Stalin's methods? Industrialization at the cost of hundreds of lives - and can you tell me whether lovers of iPhones, the Internet and Mercedes are able to drop everything and go to build factories? By the way, about imperative methods: st58, gulags, rastrels, etc. I am silent!
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                  0
                  5 February 2015 20: 26
                  Quote: Andrejka
                  Excuse me, Userpik (8), but remind me of Stalin's methods?
                  Willingly - conviction and strict adherence to the laws, the basis for which was a sober view of reality and humanism.

                  Industrialization at the cost of hundreds of lives
                  About how! laughing
                  How has industrialization been able to affect hundreds (?) Of lives in a negative way?

                  and can you tell me if lovers of iPhones, the Internet and Mercedes are able to drop everything and go to build factories?
                  I will answer - no and it is not necessary, since one does not exclude the other.
                  Moreover, the ability to have iPhones, the Internet and Mercedes for everyone who wants to have them is precisely the meaning of the construction of factories, and the construction of factories is a prerequisite for realizing the opportunity to have iPhones, the Internet and Mercedes (and not only them).

                  You asked a question from the series "But were the people who lived in the Stalinist period capable of abandoning universal education, medical care, public transport, comfortable apartments and normal clothes and shoes, replacing the latter with rags and bast shoes?" - that is, a stupid question.
                  Stalin's policy, as well as the essence of the USSR, consisted precisely in the fact that all of the above should have been, and for everyone.

                  By the way, about imperative methods: st58, gulags, rastrels, etc. I am silent!
                  Don't you be silent smile
                  You read the 58th article and try to find something political in it, which is not in the current legislation of the Russian Federation.
                  Google it at the expense of modern Russian zones, which are the same gulags.
                  Name another adequate punishment for pedophiles, murderers and leaders like Chubais.
        2. -6
          5 February 2015 10: 51
          There was nothing good in the State Planning Commission.
          He did not work already in the late 80s. The national economy became too complicated, and it became more and more difficult to prescribe everything in the plan.
          They tried to develop a new model but did not master it, for many reasons, including the "help" of the West.
          Changes in the Russian model began in 2008 after Georgia. To outplay the United States, it was necessary to do everything abruptly like Stalin, but Putin did not want to bend everyone over the knee.
          And the behavioral model of our people: Until you kick it, it won't fly. Until it got hot, everyone was happy with petrodollars.
          1. +4
            5 February 2015 12: 11
            Now, it’s just easier. Planning with new technologies is much more efficient. And about planning, starting from the time of Khrushchev without swear words, it is difficult to speak, in the 80's, as these have already planned how to snatch bold chunks during the demolition and destruction of the Union. Not the States tore the country, but these villains in the upper echelons of power, envious degenerates and traitors.
          2. Andrejka
            -1
            5 February 2015 12: 25
            PALACH I agree with you, Russia is too used to living according to the "Western model", and blaming the government for everything (just like in Ukraine now they blame Putin for all the troubles), forgetting that he himself has always been the main enemy of any person!
        3. 0
          5 February 2015 11: 54
          The president is apparently afraid of some kind of publicity and tricks in words, not in deeds. Therefore, he tries to keep all this chubaisyat on a short leash, at the same time trying to pay off from it and completely in vain is afraid, well, "stole", and who did not steal in due time. For me, the main thing is how he will behave now if he crushes the Chubais and pulls the country out of the abyss, honor and praise, the old "exploits" I do not care.
    4. Pervusha Isaev
      +10
      5 February 2015 09: 12
      The main thing is to make a breakthrough, high-quality development in a short time. And it is clear that such a leap is impossible without exerting strength and certain hardships.


      So there will be deprivations? And what kind? Will prices go up again? For train tickets, say? Yakunin will soon swell with money, palaces and bills, and he brazenly refuses to fill out an income tax return, and has anyone punished him? Or will food prices go up? So, meat and milk are climbing up, you can't stop them, and fish is almost inaccessible to the average person, sausage? A year ago everything was twice as cheap, so utilities will go up? Electricity, gas, what is this journalist scaring us with?
      What's going on? The ruble has fallen TWICE, thus we have lost the opportunity to buy imported goods TWICE as much, and considering that in Putin's Russia almost all goods are imported, we have been robbed half-normally? Under the GREAT STALIN, prices were falling and the purchasing power of the ruble was rising, but here the ruble is down, prices are up, and this is non-stop.
      As for the "jerk", I think it is impossible to do this with this power. How many years has there been chatter about a Russian computer, probably 20 years already, and this iotaphone has been released, so generally laughter, the main office is in Canada, they are made in China, the Samsung equipment and what is there Putin bragged about the Chinese prime minister?
      1. Pervusha Isaev
        +6
        5 February 2015 09: 27
        by the way, oil is now about 50 greenbacks, and then tell me why the price of gasoline is not falling and even rising? What kind of economy is this? This is anything but a MARKET ECONOMY...
        1. +1
          5 February 2015 12: 30
          Everything is clear about gasoline - in dollars it just became 2 times cheaper.
      2. +5
        5 February 2015 09: 36
        God forbid! After all, if he is punished, he will immediately merge compromising evidence on the GUARANTEE. Can not be so. Here he canceled hundreds of electric trains throughout the country, he was only told that it is possible to cut, but not so dramatically.
        And you got it all fixed. JUMP! Social justice! Forget it!
    5. +4
      5 February 2015 09: 25
      In the current conditions, yes, it seems. The trouble is that those at the helm of our state do not understand these two postulates. They are ready to carry out any reforms only on condition of personal enrichment.
      But as history shows, the patience of the Russian people is not unlimited. Nicholas II also started the war with the massive support of the population. Five years have passed and neither he nor his family has died. Since the leadership of our country is confidently following its path, apparently studying history so as not to repeat the mistakes of the past is not for them.
      At the moment, would-be patriots are tearing shirts on their chests and shouting that the leadership is infallible.
      But! If the crisis drags on and it becomes clear that the leadership did not plan to save money on its beloved (and this leadership does not know how to work otherwise), these same patriots will be the first to take to the streets, not shaking off the ongoing economic war.
      So we are waiting ...
      1. +3
        5 February 2015 10: 14
        Quote: Zdishek
        In the current environment ...

        I agree, plus.

        Quote: Zdishek
        these same patriots will be the first to take to the streets,

        I disagree. The pro-government has a lot of guts to go out into the streets to protect their interests without an official appeal from the authorities.
        1. +1
          5 February 2015 12: 25
          Quote: Normal
          I disagree. The pro-government has a lot of guts to go out into the streets to protect their interests without an official appeal from the authorities.

          but with you I completely agree! I was repeatedly convinced of the correctness of such a statement: in words in the smoking room: we will tear everyone! angry yes we are !!!! angry and as soon as it came down to it: sad what feel
      2. Andrejka
        -2
        5 February 2015 13: 42
        You mentioned Nikolay2 here - I don't know about you, but for me Lenin is not a leader of the people, but a simple extremist - essentially they took power from some and gave it to others, we will remember the NEP era, but what about the tsar's gold reserves, the death of thousands of people, executions and the migration of the aristocracy (and at one time among them there were many scientists, worthy officers, engineers, etc.)? Only now they will not let us restore our strength! Forgive me, but I personally believe that it is the traitors of the country who like to shout "down with the government"! There is no revolution without victims and everyone gets it - only the enemies win!
    6. +1
      5 February 2015 10: 40
      Shuvalov and others like him this principle "However, it is important to fulfill at least two conditions. The first is the example of the country's top officials and the elite, who should be the first to switch to new principles of the economy and life in general: justice, responsibility, universal solidarity." clearly don't adhere.
    7. +4
      5 February 2015 11: 42
      Quote: Krasmash
      And the second condition,

      There is only one condition - the shooting of the Liberal Democrats!
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    9. +2
      5 February 2015 11: 44
      Quote: Krasmash
      It looks like science fiction.

      Everything that happens is perceived as a bad unscientific phantasmagoric film. But the author is right - an example of a more effective threat (not mine, but very correct). And there is no other way. The figure of silence about the ex-Ministry of Defense and the clips of Mrs. Vasilyeva easily overrides the efforts of all the Kiselevs, Solovyovs and even the gorgeous baby from Russia-24. I always remember the ancient anecdote about "to hell with her, with America, but there must be order on the ship!".
    10. +2
      5 February 2015 11: 57
      One of the heroes of the film "Young Russia" - says: "Show the Russian people justice on earth and do not look at his miracles!" - it couldn't be better.
    11. 0
      5 February 2015 21: 19
      Yes, it seems.
      For this, the result is simple to impossibility. Or we fulfill these two conditions or in non-existence.
      What will be left? And what remains of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya ...
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  3. +4
    5 February 2015 05: 50
    I hate the word elite will evoke associations with the ancient profession, what to do and as is known since the time of the pharaohs, but before that it is simply necessary to sweep or severely restrict this very elite, but it is impossible to choose now.
    1. 0
      5 February 2015 07: 23
      There used to be a more understandable name for the Soviet, Russian intelligentsia.
      1. +5
        5 February 2015 07: 54
        The intelligentsia is also not entirely correct, a typical representative of this is Manilov, fruitless dreams and an inability to practice, Dostoevsky asked not to call him that. I think the right word is manager or responsible.
      2. 0
        5 February 2015 10: 58
        Unfortunately, the behavior of this very intelligentsia and its statements at the expense of the native country leaves only one epithet in the soul - rotten!
    2. 0
      5 February 2015 11: 52
      Quote: apro
      It is simply necessary to sweep away or severely restrict this very elite, but it is impossible to choose now.

      Therefore, it is suggested to go for a drink.
  4. +10
    5 February 2015 05: 51
    When, under the pretext of cutting costs, top managers throw people out on the street, and leave their bonuses in the budget as effective expenses.
    Maybe you should do this with menager?
  5. -2
    5 February 2015 05: 53
    Thank you,
    Kudrin, whom they love to scold and call an agent of the State Department, has always said and said that sitting on an oil needle is the stupidest economy. And now we have a good chance to get rid of oil dependence.
    Of course, there will be no complete justice, but we should strive for this.
    As a hostess, I will say that the trading network responds adequately, and exceptions only confirm the rule.
    If someone wants to get rich on currency speculation, let him try, but only Soros is good at it))
    1. +9
      5 February 2015 06: 14
      Everyone is talking about the dangers of the "oil needle" and Kudrin is not original here. But even this is slyness. The subsoil should belong to the people, and not to the state "corporation".
      1. comrad74
        +4
        5 February 2015 06: 56
        And what about the great and terrible cunning taciturn. Maybe he is "not at all in the course of the fight."
      2. -3
        5 February 2015 11: 55
        Quote: siberalt
        The bowels must belong to the people,

        Tell me the organizational and legal form of ownership, pozh-lsta. Take away and divide up works great. But not technically feasible.
    2. +7
      5 February 2015 07: 14
      Quote: shishakova
      Kudrin, whom they love to scold and call an agent of the State Department, has always said and said that sitting on an oil needle is the stupidest economy.

      Kudrin himself was the Minister of Finance for quite a long time. What did he do to make his words come true? But he reasoned perfectly that it is impossible to invest the money of the reserve fund in the development of the infrastructure of cities, the construction of roads and other socially and state-significant projects, since inflation would accelerate. From what, excuse me, the hell? If own funds are invested in the economy, and not borrowed abroad, with what fright will inflation accelerate?
      For example, they have always been, regardless of faces, F.D. Roosevelt and A.A. Hitler (let's leave the Stalinist model aside, the situation was somewhat different). They developed social programs for the employment of the population, built roads, developed small businesses, raised the level of customer service (read "One-Story America") and so on. America got out of the "Great Depression" in a fairly short time, Germany overcame the crisis and became the leading power in Europe. China, in this case, is not a candle, it has had a much long path of rebirth, although the pace of its development after the economic recovery is simply amazing.
      1. 0
        5 February 2015 16: 32
        For the fact that a person works, he is paid a salary. With honestly earned money, he goes to the store and wants to buy a product, but there is no Russian product. he buys a US product. Further, the supplier of goods from the United States exchanges rubles for the dollar. It turns out an excess of rubles. In this case, the ruble unsecured by Russian goods causes inflation. We passed this in the USSR. After that, you know what happened to the USSR, if not, ask your parents. The worst thing happened then - shock therapy, No offense.
  6. +6
    5 February 2015 05: 53
    Whoever has the resources will survive! Geyropa is a poor territory, without resources and minerals, their industry will collapse!
    Two men are walking through the desert. One has water and bread, the other has a purse of gold. Who asks gold:
    - How much is a sip of water and a piece of bread?
    - A purse of gold! - he answers.
    - And what is so expensive?
    - And you go and find it cheaper!
    1. +7
      5 February 2015 06: 21
      This is an example of market relations fellow
    2. +6
      5 February 2015 06: 21
      Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
      Whoever has the resources will survive! Geyropa is a poor territory, without resources and minerals, their industry will collapse!

      So then it is all true, only resources alone are not enough!
      They need head and strength. As a counterargument to Africa, resources are immeasurable, there is not much sense from them.
      1. +6
        5 February 2015 10: 28
        Quote: Denis
        So then it is all true, only resources alone are not enough!
        They need a head and strength.

        It seems to me that we have a Head, for 15 years at least, and no one will say that this Head has a lack of strength.
        Only something is not clear, how did it happen that, having ruled for 15 years, this Head led the country to such a state of affairs that now suddenly a leap was needed in the direction opposite to the previous aspirations?
        What did the Head think about all these 15 years and what did it direct its forces to?
        1. 0
          5 February 2015 11: 32
          Quote: Normal
          What did the Head think about all these 15 years and what did it direct its forces to?

          Such an excursion into history:
          In Russia, officials have always stolen. It was not for nothing that in pre-Petrine times the governors were not paid salaries: they knew that they would fill the bag anyway, so they were sent to "feed" at the expense of the local population. The creation of state colleges by Peter I and the appointment of salaries and bribery to their officials, as such, was not eradicated. Once, in anger, "Herr Peter" even ordered to issue a decree to hang everyone who stole more than the cost of the rope necessary for such an execution. The sovereign's ardor was immediately cooled by Prosecutor General Pavel Yaguzhinsky: “Your Majesty, do you really want to be left without subjects? We steal everything ... ".
          A similar situation was in the old cinema, where the following dialogue took place: Peter I: Look, Aleksashka, there is a number of stolen goods for you!
          And I see no way out negative
          1. +4
            5 February 2015 11: 57
            Quote: Denis
            Such an excursion into history: ....

            "Peter I: Look, Aleksashka, you are listed as stolen! .. Menshikov: They are lying, min hertz!"
            And I see no way out


            Such an excursion into journalism:
            "How did Peter tolerate the thief Aleksashka?" What a stupid question. Aleksashka did business for the tsar - and from that business he fed himself. Snatched a lot? So the performer is also good and devoted.
            Oh, how homerically Catherine's grandees stole! They were real oligarchs ... But - they fed from the growth of the state, from the expansion of the limits, from the course of reforms, from the strengthening of power.
            That is. We are all anxious. There is a kind of especially large-scale theft, when it needs to work for the growth and strength of the state. NS?

            The benefit of the thief and the benefit of the state fall into the same wind - is it clear? To sneak up and get rich, you need to perform actions that are simultaneously useful to the state: the country and the little people ...
            Poor General Bonaparte returned from Italy as a multi-rich man - so he filled the entire French budget with gold! ...
            Count Potemkin was an oligarch! But he served and concelebrated with Russia!

            Menshikov was a master thief and an oligarch! And he plowed for the emperor and the growth of the state and did not spare his blood!

            Drake plundered the Spanish colonies so that the ship sank from gold into the water. But he unfastened the queen's share and the treasury as it should! England grew rich with him!

            Here are the Krupps. It was they who made German artillery and German armor formidable and famous. Before them, the Germans had this industry in general in its infancy.

            Here are the Nobels. It was they who found and invested in the exploration and development of the Baku oil fields, they organized the construction of oil refineries and oil tankers, they created a network of kerosene shops throughout the Russian Empire. And dynamite Alfred Nobel invented himself! Although the engineers and hard workers under him were already to hell. Without the Nobels - before the Nobels - there was an empty space in the place of their empire. Nobody worked there, didn't feed, nothing functioned.
            Everyone has already understood everything.

            Let's turn to our native Russian oligarchs.

            So what did they create? What has arisen in fifteen years that did not exist before them? Wasn't it? Didn't work? Didn't feed people?

            N-I X-P-E-N-A.

            So, gentlemen.

            Russian oligarchs have not created anything.

            Russian oligarchs came to the ready.
            These are the Vikings. Invaders. Troopers from Mars. Impostors.
            Excuse me? And if all the oligarchs are annihilated tomorrow, will the oil stop flowing? And if they did not exist at all - would there be no oil without them?

            What is there in Russia today that would not exist without the oligarchs? But nothing.

            Gentlemen. Their "property" existed before them and without them, it was created independently of them, and all its creators, absolutely all those who, in one way or another, by their labor participated in the creation of the "property" of the current oligarchs, while the creation of the future oligarchs was not suspected, they did not have a mind, were not under the slightest influence of them.

            And note: nowhere in the open press, never, not at all, has information leaked about how our oligarchs created their fortunes. Where does the initial capital come from? How did you make money? How did you participate in the auction?
            .....


            M. Weller.
            mreadz.com/new/index.php?id=131456&pages=14
            1. +2
              5 February 2015 13: 03
              Quote: Normal
              Russian oligarchs came to the ready.
              These are the Vikings. Invaders. Troopers from Mars. Impostors.

              I will only correct: not Vikings, but thieves.
              Not a landing from Mars, but aborigines raised on Soviet freebies, who legalized their theft from the Soviet 90s, 60s, 70s in the 80s. And they did not come from anywhere, they have always been, at all times. But in different periods of our history, with different socio-political forms of government, they were fought in different ways. Sometimes they were impaled, sometimes they were shot. And now they themselves are in power and invent laws for themselves and live by them.
              1. +1
                5 February 2015 15: 24
                Quote: Svetlana
                But in different periods of our history, under different socio-political forms of government, they were fought against in different ways.... And now they themselves are in power and they make up their own laws and live by them.


                "When the goons are on the money of the communists.
                Bank American Express was opened
                The Chekists gave free rein to the swindlers.
                Having your own tambourine interest
                "

                "Trofim"
    3. 0
      5 February 2015 12: 49
      one could agree, only now the resource is also brains with know-how! and in Europe they are there - and ours help them with this with the "Bologna" agreement
  7. +4
    5 February 2015 05: 56
    The people must see and understand that the authorities and the elite will go along with them to the end. Moreover, those who set an example of serving the state and society, who will “tighten their belts” first to themselves, and then to their subordinates and those around them, should become the elite.

    And the second condition, closely related to the first, is that each of us can clearly see that the resources saved by the country and the goods and services produced by the people go to the very qualitative development of Russia, and not to the private illegal property of individuals.


    In the meantime, they have not yet begun to fulfill these conditions ... What is required from each of us personally in order to quickly implement all this? I am for a great and strong Russia!
    1. +3
      5 February 2015 07: 34
      Quote: Tatar 174
      In the meantime, they have not yet begun to fulfill these conditions ... What is personally required of each of us in order to quickly implement all this?

      Maybe for a start, create jobs for Russian citizens? If there is work, there will be everything.
      1. +1
        5 February 2015 09: 08
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Quote: Tatar 174
        In the meantime, they have not yet begun to fulfill these conditions ... What is personally required of each of us in order to quickly implement all this?

        Maybe for a start, create jobs for Russian citizens? If there is work, there will be everything.



        Do not admit the traders to the power! These creatures will sell everything
      2. -2
        5 February 2015 11: 05
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Maybe for a start, create jobs for Russian citizens? If there is work, there will be everything.


        Not a fact, S.Korea everyone works, but as nothing happened, it still doesn’t.
      3. 0
        5 February 2015 11: 59
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Maybe for a start, create jobs for Russian citizens?

        To whom and who will entrust? The creation of millions of high-tech jobs has been heard of. Already. Who was entrusted with this and who entrusted it - I did not understand. It's bad to be stupid.
      4. 0
        5 February 2015 13: 26
        So far, only problems are being created, "one with a bipod, and seven with a spoon," and they also have a monotonous idea, to hack to death the goose that lays the golden eggs, to sell everything for a cardon.
  8. KOH
    +1
    5 February 2015 06: 04
    The author is a big plus, for me, he said everything correctly, business should understand, if we allow (God forbid) the victory of the West, where will its business be, now there is an economic war with Russia, and not a crisis on which money can be raised, we are talking about the survival of Russia as a state, and some stupid prices explode and rub their hands from future profits ...
  9. +9
    5 February 2015 06: 07
    The National Idea of ​​Russia at all times has been JUSTICE! This is a people's dream and its embodiment will become the basis for the prosperity of the country and the people.
    1. +3
      5 February 2015 06: 42
      Quote: Naum
      The National Idea of ​​Russia at all times has been JUSTICE! This is a people's dream and its embodiment will become the basis for the prosperity of the country and the people.


      Quote: Naum
      If Russia is good, it will be good for us and our children in the future. We are ready for hardships and difficulties, but with a fair and even distribution of them among all.


      However, it is true!
      And this can become the unifying idea of ​​the common Russian people.
      Equality, Justice, Equal access to the national wealth of the country.

      But the Chubays, snatchers, oligarchs and a significant part of the "servants of the people" will certainly disagree.
    2. +5
      5 February 2015 06: 47
      The National Idea of ​​Russia at all times has been JUSTICE! - Naum (2)


      You are right, exactly SOCIAL JUSTICE, the age-old dream of the people of Russia, must be turned into a NATIONAL STATE IDEA - IDEOLOGY.
      But the current Constitution of the Russian Federation, written by analogy with Western constitutions, and at the suggestion of American and Western consultants, prohibits Russia from having its own ideology.
      Article 13
      ...
      2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.


      We are forbidden to have our own ideology, idea, age-old dream - JUSTICE.

      In the era of socialism, social justice was placed at the forefront of the life of the state: EQUALITY, BROTHERHOOD, FREEDOM, not in words, in deeds.
      The people were provided with free health care, education, housing with minimal public utilities with state subsidies, work according to their profession and desire, guaranteed social guarantees for old age and illness, and other social benefits.
      Yes, there was no freedom to steal, rob the state and its wealth, freedom to kill people, freedom to distribute pornography, drugs, corruption of people, freedom of anti-social anti-popular works, given now by the liberal "democracy". But are they really needed? Do you really need the freedom of vices that violate the RIGHTS and FREEDOM of other people?
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      2. +4
        5 February 2015 10: 26
        On the warm coasts of the United States of America there has been a revival of the real estate market. Compared to last year, home sales growth was 11%.
        As they say from the local level, the vast majority of real estate is being acquired by civil servants of the two fraternal states, Russia and Ukraine. Not businessmen fleeing war, no. Representatives of the service backbone from large and medium-sized cities. Judges, prosecutors, mayors, heads of some regional departments, deputy governors, police officers and militia officials. The coming isolation from the Riviera, the closure of the road to the boutiques of Italy on the ski slopes of Switzerland...
        Actually, it is precisely for the extension of the era of the touristocracy in Russia that the domestic elites are so clinging with their teeth. For fifteen years everything went well: they made quarries Here and made their nests There.
        "The Colour of the Nation" has been working purposefully for 15 years to ensure that its offspring would take place precisely There and precisely as ordinary people. We are witnessing a stunning picture in its own way - "The Colour of the Nation" in the process of self-expulsion. And every single one of them was a member of "United Russia".
        MARAKHOVSKY Victor - full text http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1422899251
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        5 February 2015 17: 29
        Quote: vladimirZ
        SOCIAL JUSTICE, the age-old dream of the people of Russia, must be made a NATIONAL STATE IDEA - IDEOLOGY
        So an idea or an ideology?

        But the current Constitution of the Russian Federation, written by analogy with Western constitutions, and at the suggestion of American and Western consultants, prohibits Russia from having its own ideology.
        Article 13 2. No ideology can be established as state or mandatory
        The question is simple - what exactly cannot be installed?

        We are forbidden to have our own ideology, idea, age-old dream - JUSTICE
        No one is forbidding this, neither us nor, especially, you personally.

        In the era of socialism, social justice was put at the forefront of the life of the state: EQUALITY, BROTHERHOOD, FREEDOM, not in words, but in deeds. The people were provided with free health care, education, housing with minimal utilities with state subsidies, work according to profession and desire, provided social guarantees for old age and illness, and other social benefits.
        Read the Constitution of the Russian Federation already.
  10. +8
    5 February 2015 06: 24
    We were dragged into an economic war in which the West is the aggressor and Russia is the victim.
    author

    I do not agree!
    We were not dragged in. We ourselves got into the WTO! And all WTO members can be considered victims here.
    The Common Trade Space is the ideal way to manage the economies of other countries - "Carrot and Stick Management".
    Market, there is a market! On the trading floor, concepts such as quality, safety for the consumer are all secondary. The main thing is profit!
    And all the talk and advanced market relations, about how everything should be ideally, and so on - just idle talk.
    Money is not friendly! Money is .... "judges" of the market!
    And whoever says whatever (and there are many dreamers), under market relations, there can be no ideal state where everyone is satisfied and happy.
    It was not for nothing that Hermes was the patron of trade and... swindlers. Even in those distant times, people put trade and fraud on the same level and considered them as a single whole.
    IMHO
    1. +1
      5 February 2015 12: 06
      Time after time I see this "we" here. Until I realized who "you" are. Why did you get into this WTO with them? Why are you bitterly complaining about this action of yours now? Tell us. We, who are not "we", can think of something so that you do not do more stupid things with them. Each action has a specific performer (s). Why should their actions, albeit within the limits of the powers we have given them, be so selflessly taken at our own expense? Maybe it's better to ask the performers - why did they do it?
      1. 0
        6 February 2015 08: 41
        97110
        Time after time I see this "we" here. Until I realized who "you" are.

        "WE" are those who do not separate themselves from the Motherland and the people not in sorrow, not in joy.
        And judging by your comment, a politician is more suitable for you
        "The cake is all in the place, and der ... o one by one"
        This reminds us that many people say about good achievements - We (independently under the tsar, under the USSR, under the new Russia). But about the bad, they are looking for thieves, tyrants' spies. And they present themselves either as victims of the regime or as underground patriots.
      2. 0
        6 February 2015 08: 41
        97110
        Time after time I see this "we" here. Until I realized who "you" are.

        "WE" are those who do not separate themselves from the Motherland and the people not in sorrow, not in joy.
        And judging by your comment, a politician is more suitable for you
        "The cake is all in the place, and der ... o one by one"
        This reminds us that many people say about good achievements - We (independently under the tsar, under the USSR, under the new Russia). But about the bad, they are looking for thieves, tyrants' spies. And they present themselves either as victims of the regime or as underground patriots.
  11. 0
    5 February 2015 06: 39
    Are we still in the WTO? What is it like? What for?
    1. +2
      5 February 2015 10: 48
      Quote: Alexey Vladislavovich
      Are we still in the WTO ?!

      Hello ... We've arrived ...

      Quote: Alexey Vladislavovich
      How's that?

      That's how!
      Vladimir Putin: Russia has more pluses than minuses from the WTO
      Russia has more pluses than minuses from joining the World Trade Organization (WTO). This opinion was expressed today by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a press conference.
      ...
      top.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2012/837656.shtml


      What for?


      According to Vladimir Putin, Russia's accession to the WTO has systemic advantages, including the creation of favorable climate for foreign investors.

      "But I'll pluck the raps (of foreign investments)! How can I not pluck them? I'll pluck them!
      And I will sell it (I will cut it and take it out of the country already to the accounts of certain individuals) for three rubles! How not to sell? Selling! "
  12. Dumb
    -4
    5 February 2015 06: 48
    Quote: siberalt
    It turns out only one condition: that neither strangers nor their own should rob Russia.

    Agree. Take control of the IMF and "steer" for the good of the Fatherland and partner countries, develop
    industrial sector, increase the level of employment of the population, strengthen the ruble ... As a result, -
    Russia's ill-wishers will simply become "enthusiastic" allies by force...
    1. +1
      5 February 2015 10: 53
      Quote: Dumb
      Take control of the IMF and "steer" for the good of the Fatherland

      What's so boring? Some kind of IMF. Finely.
      It is necessary to seize control of the US Congress and Senate, as well as become an American president with the right to be re-elected indefinitely. Then for sure
      Rossi's ill-wishers will simply become "enthusiastic" allies forcibly ..
      1. Dumb
        0
        5 February 2015 20: 01
        Quote: Normal
        What's so boring? Some kind of IMF.

        Are you confused by the “campaign” against the IMF that I mentioned?
        This is not a figment of my imagination...
        The meeting of the foreign ministers of Russia, China and India crowned with a joint statement in which the BRICS countries demanded that the United States complete the reform of the IMF, that is, in fact, give up control of this key financial organization of the planet. This is a very strong gesture that, on the one hand, shows the solidarity of Moscow, Beijing and Delhi on the key issue of reformatting the international economic system, and on the other hand is an open threat to Washington - a kind of "last Chinese warning" backed up by Chinese money and Russian nuclear potential.
        http://topwar.ru/68248-zachem-putinu-ugonyat-mvf.html
  13. +1
    5 February 2015 07: 12
    the only way out for Russia is an accelerated change of the economic model with a stake on the real sector and the ruble, which are not tied to the dollar.

    No one argues with this, with the exception of the liberals. And here's how to quickly change the economic model, and even with the hard pressure of the West on our economy. That is the question?
  14. +1
    5 February 2015 07: 15
    Russia is once again being pushed to the brink of survival. At the same time, the West has enough levers of influence. What is only financial dependence worth, not to mention raw materials dependence. At the same time, both money and mineral resources have long ceased to be national wealth, but are in the unclean hands of criminal oligarchs and corrupt officials serving them, including the courts, the prosecutor's office, and the so-called Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation. So who should unite with whom? Ordinary citizens with this pack, who have long united among themselves and act brazenly and with impunity "in the name of the Russian Federation" against Russia and its people.? A change of course, a different political regime is needed.
    Putin is the best president in the short history of the new Russia. He did everything he could to prevent collapse and civil war. For which he deserves respect. As consistently, cleverly and sometimes decisively he acts in the foreign policy arena, so inconsistently are his actions in the economy, finances, property. There was some stability only when oil prices were high. Now it is over. Because Colonel VVP is not an economist
    The GDP must take the main step during its long reign - to find the Russian Deng Xiao Ping and calmly, without shocks, transfer power to him, just as Yeltsin unexpectedly transferred power to Putin in his time. This will be the first condition for the RF jerk.
    1. -1
      5 February 2015 10: 07
      Quote: k174un7
      For the colonel of GDP is not an economist

      This is not the first time I've seen this statement. What does it mean, not an economist? Who are economists anyway? Are economists born? But is G. Gref an economist? And if VVP decides the issue with electric trains, is he a railroad worker?

      We are too bogged down in the liberal model of the economy. Mr. Shuvalov recently said that state-owned companies (talking about Gazprom) are generally not a state-owned joint-stock company-business unit.
      There are shareholders and their interests must be taken into account (something like that). And what is not state. we don’t know. I think the GDP understands perfectly what needs to be done, but the conditions must be created for this. (Just don’t say that it was 15 years old for this).
      In Novocherkassk, Rost.obl. the NEVZ plant stopped (approx. 8000 people), there are no confirmed orders from the main client - Russian Railways (this time), the electric trains stopped working (these are two). Maybe one is not connected to the other, or maybe? I remember the word is Sabotage. So if you break liberalism through the knee the word is we will hear every day.
      1. Roshchin
        0
        5 February 2015 11: 00
        I think that if VVP knew and could do it, he would have long ago organized Operation Crimea for the bureaucracy. However, everything is limited to gentle scolding, and the question "Are you crazy? Come on immediately..." At the same time, not all the routes of the same electric trains will be restored, and this will take state funds, as if a new railway network was built.
        You write that a large plant has stopped. There are no orders, but the products are needed by rail. Who is following this, who is coordinating? Where is the system built? Where are the shoals of regulatory and supervisory bodies, and the same financial intelligence? Putin once asked the gene. prosecutor Chaika: “Where are corrupt officials and thieves?” Chaika didn’t answer only sadly lowered his eyes. It means that all sorts of seagulls, the Bastrykins, must be chased for a long time for their stupidity and inaction. However, these economies cannot be helped much. We need people who understand economic ties, know which laws are missing, and which ones hinder. And at the same time, organize effective control and responsibility. The Stalinist people's commissars, with their heads and everyone else, were responsible for the assigned areas of work. But the case was entrusted to people who could cope with it, and not through patronage, with automatic indulgence for uselessness and theft. This is what the VVP should do - personnel, not commuter trains. Well, and objectively assess their own capabilities and results as an eternal "guarantor". The presidential elections in the Russian Federation are not far off. Will we choose Vladimir Vladimirovich's Urus-bashi again, or again the LADY?
    2. 0
      5 February 2015 13: 42
      Completely for! Only it is not necessary to change the GDP and the LADY, the cook cannot run the state. And the cook picks them up as assistants. There are such special people - engineers - who are taught to manage the economy (not to be confused with officers - they are taught differently) who can draw up a technical plan for the development of the country for systemic import substitution, for maximizing the added value to our resources. Agree - GDP has grown over 15 years. But you cannot grasp the immensity. Today it is necessary to change the development model to a partly planned one, in what proportion is a question. The socialist development model has its advantages and whoever lived in the 80s knows this. Liberalism is a way to hide laziness, mediocrity, theft, dullness.
  15. -1
    5 February 2015 07: 27
    Plus article
  16. -1
    5 February 2015 07: 50
    For a breakthrough, Russia needs only one condition - that it should be left alone for at least 15-20 years by all kinds of "benefactors", liberals and "partners."
    1. +3
      5 February 2015 10: 56
      Quote: Wedmak
      For a breakthrough, Russia needs only one condition - that it should be left alone for at least 15-20 years by all kinds of "benefactors", liberals and "partners."

      Or maybe Putin and Co. need a separate planet? So that for about 15 years no one would interfere with the Uncontested Authority leading Russia to prosperity.
  17. +2
    5 February 2015 08: 01
    It is necessary to revive the peasantry, to attract young people to the villages, not to build barriers for them !!!
  18. +1
    5 February 2015 08: 01
    As I mentioned in my article. THERE IS NO CHANGE OF THE ECONOMIC MODEL. At least for the next two years. VVP said this clearly and unambiguously. Therefore, you will have to fight on the enemy's field.
    Well, how do you suppose the oligarchs can "change"? Are they going to stand at the machine in their factories? Or will they go down into the mine? Or at least they will sell their yachts and palaces and use the proceeds to donate pensions to pensioners and salaries of state employees? Well, nothing can change under the oligarchs. The maximum they are capable of is verbal fog. Call people "elite" (and we remember what Gref called us before, the danger will pass and will call them again) and compare ourselves with cash cows (yes, they "give us water and give us a job and give us work without them, damn it!" , did!).
    1. Roshchin
      0
      5 February 2015 13: 06
      As the VIL wrote, a revolutionary situation arises when the upper classes cannot rule in the old way, and the lower classes do not want to be governed in this way. We, for a long time, do not want such management, as long as it is possible to survive. However, rulers, oligarchs and hordes of officials can and want to continue to manage this way, that is, to own everything, to dispose of everything at their own discretion, regardless of morality or laws, without bearing any responsibility for what they have done, passing on by inheritance "acquired by overwork ". We don't need revolutions. Enough sacrifice and suffering. A fresh example of a revolution is our neighbor Ukraine. But the current political course also leads to this very "can-not-want". There are no prospects yet. We can say that we are living in a period of oligarchic "stagnation" with all its charms. Well, then ...
  19. +3
    5 February 2015 08: 11
    That's right, but how to go to a mobilization economy in collusion
    authorities and merchants? And what about the 5th column? Just that I looked at the "Echo of Moscow" dump, there G. Weller hysterically broadcasts that Russian troops are fighting in the Donbass!
    But he considers himself the conscience of the nation! Apparently, he is asking for the role of Krysevich-Makarevich.
    1. 0
      5 February 2015 11: 00
      Quote: Neophyte
      I just saw the dump "Echo of Moscow

      Why are you rummaging through the trash heaps? Not good. laughing
  20. +1
    5 February 2015 08: 19
    A simple (at first glance) performance of one's duties at one's workplace, perhaps, cannot be done ... And here even this is not everywhere ... And it is not in honor. It would be nice to raise the status and pay tribute to the Man of Labor. Like Alexei Stakhanov or Pasha Angelina in the USSR, they were the embodiment of the heroism of an ordinary person and precisely a worker, and not a pop diva or an oligarch. Let it be the operators of CNC machines or the owners of family agricultural enterprises in our time. In general, it is not important, but the PR specialists of the new Russian era should show creativity. Peace! Work! May! Urrra, comrades!
    1. +1
      5 February 2015 09: 03
      How naive with pink glasses! A man of labor has long been out of favor. At the helm are managers, economists, political scientists, sociologists, creative directors ...
  21. +5
    5 February 2015 08: 44
    I just can't understand one thing. For whom should I endure the belt tightening? For the sake of Mr. Shuvalov to live well. For the sake of the deputies to incubate their undeserved pay? For the furniture maker's friend, so she can sing about slippers? Apart from the talking shop, there are no other events.
    1. +2
      5 February 2015 11: 05
      Quote: Gardamir
      I just can't understand one thing. For whom should I endure the belt tightening?

      And for this, among other things, for the pro-government "Russian boy" from Odintsovo. advocating the preservation of the government of the GDP, could continue to write fantastic articles that have nothing to do with the harsh reality.
      1. dmb
        +2
        5 February 2015 11: 45
        Greetings, colleagues. You get tired of being surprised by the storm caused by the empty chatter of Edik, who once again remembered about the loan payment, and scribbled down an article for this payment. Moreover, Edik understands that they will not pay much, so he writes without much expression. Which cannot be said about some commentators. They, the sick ones, seriously believe that Usmanov and Yakunin will unite with them on their terms. Edik is not talking about that at all. He proposes to unite on the terms of the "Ozero" cooperative, for which the cooperative actually pays him.
  22. +5
    5 February 2015 09: 01
    What kind of unity can there be between a pensioner and a deputy? One receives a pension of 6-8 thousand, and the other 450 thousand! And they waste time on stupid things like collecting trillion-dollar reparations from Germany, when they can’t return a billion euros for the unfortunate Mistral! Or recognizing the illegal transfer of Crimea in 1954. And they receive their salaries while being absent from work for months! And while odious figures like Chubais, Abramovich and others are in power, the people will not trust the authorities.
  23. 0
    5 February 2015 09: 19
    I am sure that there are much more conditions for the development of Russia, but on the whole I agree with the author of this article.
  24. 0
    5 February 2015 09: 32
    Everything is correct, but unfortunately not feasible. As history shows, there must be a force capable of translating an idea into action. One person is not able to do this, and a group of people united in a party does not. A party is created on the basis of ideology, but it is just not there. The revolutionary situation has not yet arrived, there are no thinkers capable of capturing the power of their convictions. In general, a lot of words have been said lately, but little is being done. The choice is either friends or a country. The answer, for me personally, is not obvious.
  25. +1
    5 February 2015 09: 44
    Such a lovely little article.
    And again the painful and such favorite words: "must", "everything", "did", "people", etc.
    Start?
    But it is not. More precisely, it has not yet begun.
    As recently as yesterday, BB was crucifying for electric trains.
    The reaction was hard to see on TV.
    And what ... without a stick in any way?
    No, no way.
  26. -2
    5 February 2015 10: 03
    Quote: vladimirZ
    You are wrong, Eduard Birov. The current economic crisis in Russia is the result of the liberal development of the state. The West and the United States are not to blame for this crisis, but our liberal leaders of the state, presidents Putin, Medvedev, even earlier Yeltsin, and their leading liberal parties are to blame. How many of them there were already and can not be counted, now "United Russia".

    Nonsense. Is this Putin a liberal? Okostya!
    1. +3
      5 February 2015 11: 12
      Quote: ytrish
      Nonsense. Is this Putin a liberal? Okostya!

      Putin is a liberal.
      With regard to the economy and responsibility (or rather complete irresponsibility) of the authorities to the population, Putin is a LIBERAL



      In everything that concerns PERSONAL power, Putin is a tough, authoritarian ruler.
  27. -1
    5 February 2015 10: 08
    And it looks like! (Photo to the article)
    On Gagarin. Tokmo with a beard laughing
    And the fact that our economy is like a mysterious space ... With fools-roads-corruption. Mysteriously muddy.
    So it's a fact!
    Find a thread somewhere to look for emoticons. With a beard smile
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  29. +4
    5 February 2015 10: 21
    "The people must see and understand that the authorities and the elite will go along with them to the end."

    But for this, the authorities must publicly announce their economic and political course, Roosevelt did this at one time, and Putin?
    1. 0
      5 February 2015 11: 14
      Quote: saag
      Only for this, the authorities must publicly announce their economic and political course,


      Didn't he do it?

  30. DEDEDE
    -1
    5 February 2015 10: 25
    There is no liberal economy in Russia. There is a state-clan oligopoly, when fat orders are handed out to their people, when officials are allowed to rob the people in exchange for loyalty to the authorities. The permissiveness of the power elites is covered by screams about the collapse of Russia by liberals who in reality do not exist in Russia.
  31. +1
    5 February 2015 11: 19
    For such a change in direction, you need to have a team, but what is right now ...
    A vivid example of how yesterday Putin launched electric trains to the regions.
    Why should the president PERSONALLY do this!
    In such a scenario, the Ministry of Transport and Russian Railways must be dispersed since they cannot agree on simple things.
    If the president must control every little thing, then what kind of major reforms can we talk about.
    1. +1
      5 February 2015 12: 09
      Quote: PALACH
      Why should the president PERSONALLY do this!

      Because he himself said: "It is more necessary to control the country in manual mode"
  32. +3
    5 February 2015 11: 30
    There is no elite in the Russian Federation! There is a circle of people who have criminally seized the national and state wealth into their dirty hands, at the moment they are managing the state.
    1. +3
      5 February 2015 11: 36
      Quote: CHEF
      There is no elite in the Russian Federation!

      Thank God you are wrong, there is!
      Mikhail Kalashnikov, Ulyana Lopatkina, Leo Bokeria ...
      They and many others are the elite, and who did you talk about?
  33. -7
    5 February 2015 11: 49
    Utopian socialists! You are simply not able to admit to yourself that you are poor and losers! Enough already "take everything and divide", have already gone through this! Forgot how they waited in queues and then licked the shit of cars made according to the technologies of the decaying west? There will be no justice! Because it is not. The one who is stronger is the winner. The one who is smarter and more persistent is the richer. Who cannot earn money, lives in shit, and there is nothing to wait for someone to share with you! Go and earn! ALL! Minus!
    1. 0
      5 February 2015 16: 23
      Maybe someday you will get drunk and think about your soul, you won't take anything with you. Do you think that all who do not grab are suckers? A person should leave something useful after himself, apart from a heap of crap. And your snickering children will grow up to be boors or drug addicts.
  34. 0
    5 February 2015 11: 57
    The only way! And nothing else!
    1. -3
      5 February 2015 12: 00
      Yes ! this is ours! Let's build something that doesn't belong to us, a good approach. Slave.
  35. 0
    5 February 2015 12: 03
    There is already an alternative model in the forum:
    News and Information Section - Politics and Power - Change of Formation or New World War?
    The threat of world war and the formation of an innovative society in Russia. Possible basic transition model.

    What could be easier than providing everyone with equal and fair access to the means of production? :)
  36. +1
    5 February 2015 12: 06
    Yes - just two. 1. Nationalization. 2. Socialism.
  37. 0
    5 February 2015 12: 21
    On the agenda is the eternal question that causes all the upheavals of humanity: who owns the means of production, the land and natural resources?
  38. 0
    5 February 2015 12: 29
    The article is about nothing! Both of them, and of course we don't, every janitor knows better what to do than Nabibullennaya with two higher educations, every turner and minibus driver understands the work of legislators much better. What kind of madness is this?
  39. 0
    5 February 2015 12: 50
    The authorities have been cultivating the slogan "Get drunk, become a fly and fly to America" ​​for 25 years in the Russian Federation, they successfully implement it, especially the noble gentlemen from the Government and the State Duma ... "They eat Russia. The beholder is looking ...
  40. 0
    5 February 2015 13: 01
    I do not agree with the author of the article, who is to blame for this crisis - our government and government, represented by the top officials, the president and prime minister. The government has completely failed domestic policy, the economy, that they didn’t talk about it, and normal economists, specialists, politicians shouted at the top of their voices, why didn’t our government listen, why didn’t it carry out reforms, that it didn’t have enough intelligence, political will, strategic thinking and planning, sucked the pacifier of rotten Western democracy and economy for 23 years thanks to the geniuses of the economy Gaidar, Chubais, Kudrin, rubbed like a bald dog with a mangy back against the “green paper”, bred oligarchs, corrupt officials who have amassed huge fortunes and now this scribbler calls on us, ordinary people, to tighten our belts, and I think it’s worth tightening the belts of those who are to blame for this, those who profited from this, let them fast, maybe they will become wiser, work better or they are too lazy to do it - THEY HAVE GONE OVER THE SKILLS, look at the mug of the stool, one of such organizers, that’s the mug, it’s easier jump over than go around. Any action or inaction of the authorities affects all 147 million people of RUSSIA and it is time for the authorities to think and think well, otherwise you may end up without power.
  41. 0
    5 February 2015 13: 16
    Russia needs two conditions for a breakthrough

    Anyone who wants to do is looking for a way, who does not want - reasons and conditions.
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  43. 0
    5 February 2015 13: 23
    "Russian establishment" I ask you not to express yourself !!!
  44. bos
    bos
    0
    5 February 2015 13: 39
    yes, it will work if you remove all these liberals and freaks who think only of themselves and destroy the country, but the funny thing is that we get more than half of this shit in power.
  45. Userpic
    +1
    5 February 2015 17: 40
    Russia needs two conditions for a breakthrough

    Where to dash?
  46. 0
    5 February 2015 18: 40
    Userpic
    Where to dash?

    rather where
    well, or from the worst
  47. Andrejka
    0
    5 February 2015 20: 33
    Dear comrades, I understand a sore subject, but I ask who sculpts the minuses to argue for them, and not do as tihushniki! As they said in other Greece, the truth is born in dialogue - and those who consider themselves an angel and claim that in all troubles the government can blame me not only cons but also bricks to throw, just argue !!!!
  48. 0
    6 February 2015 01: 04
    It is necessary to understand the terminology, (and) misunderstandings will disappear on their own. It's time to switch to our language - Russian!
  49. 0
    6 February 2015 02: 33
    as Vova says, there will be no revision of privatization, there will be no amnesty for states, well, it means that the people will not believe either, since the Russian people have a strong belief that the country was stolen from them, and while a snout like Red is still at large, there is no justice in the country, and many, many more