The future is communism!

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The future is communism!Communism in the 21 century - it does not sound absurd, but proudly and openly. Right now, supporters of far-left ideas have great chances to change the world in the direction in which they turned the Soviet Union - in the direction of goodness, justice and the common good.

What is happening in the world causes confusion. Heads of huge states that really play an important role in the geopolitical arena often commit acts to the detriment of themselves and their country. Entire nations make the wrong choice and find themselves on the verge of death. Global geopolitical cataclysms occur, which are visible to the naked eye.

What is happening in Ukraine is a wake-up call for the entire world community and, above all, for the European one. What is essentially a rejection of the Crimea without the participation of Russia? Only separatist movements in the region like the Kosovo incident (as the European bureaucrats think). But the entry of the peninsula into the Russian Federation is already a strategic nightmare for the European Union. These people are accustomed to sit in easy chairs, to taste blancmange and in a capricious tone to condemn any mob that oppresses any mob in the very last, seedy little world. The main event of March last year is a signal that it will be in regionalist Europe in the event of a worsening economic situation. And in Eastern Europe will have its own Crimea, and in Western too (although there is more likely for ideological reasons).

The global liberal idea suffers a severe crisis. At the beginning of the 2000s, it was obvious that she showed her incapacity and left Western countries without a sound alternative to political and social development. Once again, we are not talking about the third world, and not even about the Balkans or the Baltic, where people are impoverished and have a hard time making ends meet. We are talking about "enlightened" capitalist countries that have not experienced any difficulties so far. In these countries, we note, many protest movements were born. The canonical communist ideas in the Soviet form came to us from Marx and Engels. Socialist - from the same place, and they actively developed and changed from the 16 century, when thinkers from the privileged classes wondered why life is fair for some and unfair for others.

Any communist parties, associations in the West are now under the most severe ban. Figures who openly express their commitment to leftist views are secretly repressed and exposed to attacks from all sides. What is striking, something completely different happens with Islamic fundamentalists and extreme right-wing nationalists — in the Old World both of these groups are honored. They compete with each other for the right to determine the future of the continent, although in fact so far this future is determined by the global liberal lobby, which is not the first to set rivals apart with their foreheads against each other.

But a very positive sign for us is that this lobby is gradually losing control over the situation. Europe is equally “suffering” from Islamists and Muslim migrants, and from nationalists who express radical ideas and are not afraid to play populist slogans. Europe is already torn as a grandmother in labor. Something must come out of it. But what?

Experience shows us that even in developed countries, the communist ideology finds its supporters. There is a very simple reason for this: the leftists simplify everything and are ready to seek justice even when using rigid methods. Moreover, even in theory, a truly happy state can be built only with the participation of communism (and socialism as an intermediate ideological link).

But back to the discussion. In the European Union, Islamism and nationalism will meet in a deadly battle. Liberal forces are weak and divided as never before. And this is a real chance for the communist movement to show its power, to gain support among the people and show how it compares favorably with any other ideologies. This, by the way, is also a signal of our power, in which direction it is worth forming a policy. Our leading experts in one voice say: the future of the world is only behind the left ideas (of course, in a modern interpretation). We'll see if the Kremlin goons are listening to this.

What else can the communists and the left in general? In their power - to resolve the conflict in Ukraine, fanned mainly by nationalist forces. In the ranks of the Novorossiysk militias today there are thousands of supporters of left-wing ideas. And they form the future of Novorossia, as well as the future of Russia. This is not toothless Zyuganov semi-militarism, characterized by venality and fake slogans. No, this is a real left thought in the form in which it is most relevant today.

The supporters of communism are still strongly divided both in Europe and in Russia, and even in New Russia. But right now story gives them and all of us an excellent opportunity to turn it around and create a fair and honest model of civilization, which we have already had the opportunity to see in the Soviet Union - in our great homeland.
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  1. 13+
    4 February 2015 07: 48
    Without the unifying force and support that was represented by one of the strongest states at that time - the USSR, these movements were a drop in the bucket. Although - who knows ...
    1. 22+
      4 February 2015 08: 09
      these movements are a drop in the ocean.
      The ocean is made up of drops ...
      1. 47+
        4 February 2015 09: 00
        Already there is even an economic justification that socialism with its planned economy, with the current development of computer technology, will be more effective than capitalism. And I agree with that.

        And to the cry of supporters of the free market, I always ask the same question: if the market and competition are so effective, why then the largest multinational corporations do not arrange competition between their divisions, but clearly plan their activities? So far, not a single apologist for the free market has answered something intelligible to me.
        1. -3
          4 February 2015 10: 52
          The difference between TNK and socialism is that TNK has a specific owner, while socialism does not.
          1. +4
            4 February 2015 11: 06
            ... people, through managers. And so to think, my friend, you will soon be walking only on the land of the owner, and then if the OWNER allows.
            1. +8
              4 February 2015 11: 58
              ..not soon you will, but already ...
              All the land has been bought up and fenced, so it's already "master's"
              1. +6
                4 February 2015 12: 11
                North Ossetia, all agricultural land is concentrated in the hands of 6 families, as they are called-ALDAROV, generally play out, the land issue in Russia has always been explosive.
          2. +7
            4 February 2015 11: 16
            And who should be considered this "concrete owner" of TNK - a million shareholders as legal co-owners? Or members of the board of directors who actually manage the asset, formally being "hired management"?
            If you dance from the actual state of affairs, then the efficiency of the enterprise depends more on the quality of management than on the form of ownership. Therefore, the mantras of the liberals about "effective private owners" are a divorce for suckers.
          3. 0
            4 February 2015 13: 03
            Quote: atarix
            The difference between TNK and socialism is that TNK has a specific owner, while socialism does not.

            You still add repression, famine and war.
          4. +8
            4 February 2015 13: 23
            It is not true that under socialism there was no master, all the liberals are vaping. Those who lived and worked under socialism remember that people had much more rights and opportunities to influence the government than they do now. It was practically impossible to remove the employee at the request of his superiors Yes, and the work was in bulk, you could always get settled, pick out what you like and according to your qualifications. Important issues were resolved at the general meeting of the team and lived in groups much friendlier than now and were rooting for their production, it was ours and not No one. Those who snatched a piece from the common pie, now throws himself like a dog, everyone who tells the truth, only he eats alone.
          5. -4
            4 February 2015 16: 23
            No difference! The owners of TNCs for the most part are many, many shareholders. The same people. Only not all, but 1% of this people.
        2. +5
          4 February 2015 11: 55
          Our economists were educated in London or at the Higher School of Economics. The grain fell into the "fertile land", so we have what we have ...
        3. +2
          4 February 2015 14: 01
          Quote: Sensatus
          about why then the largest transnational corporations do not arrange competition between their divisions, but clearly plan their activities?

          Why should they? They have already built their "socialism" for themselves. Now they blatantly lie to us that this is impossible.
        4. Azat Babai
          +2
          4 February 2015 18: 29
          They all hide behind competition and strive for a monopoly, which would then be strangled without competition.
        5. 0
          4 February 2015 19: 52
          that’s why the United States after World War II found a reason for the Cold War-communism and the planned (competent) economy outperformed capitalism!)))
      2. 0
        4 February 2015 13: 56
        Quote: zao74
        The ocean is made up of drops ...

        A drop, the stone wears away ...
        1. -9
          4 February 2015 14: 15
          Quote: Hronyaka
          Quote: zao74
          The ocean is made up of drops ...

          A drop, the stone wears away ...


          That's exactly what the drop is and as you can see in the photo, there are not quite a lot of supporters, one old woman with a flag.
        2. 0
          5 February 2015 10: 54
          Quote: Hronyaka
          A drop, the stone wears away ...

          Until drained into the toilet!
      3. -7
        4 February 2015 14: 07
        The article was accurately written "on behalf of and on behalf of".
        Want is not harmful.
    2. GRF
      +9
      4 February 2015 08: 14
      When it is believed that the state is a draw, and do not care what happened to him (at least to those who do not work at this state-owned enterprise) ...
      This is very bad...
      And to make people understand that the state is theirs and the family budget depends on the work of state enterprises, it can be done under capitalism with a human face ...
      Then, the privatization of state property will be far from indifferent ...
      And this is the first step to communism not in words ... But in fact ...
      1. 12+
        4 February 2015 09: 02
        Where were you ardent builders of communism used to be when the USSR fell to pieces?

        Nafig, nafig! I saw what communists are! You have an example of both Yeltsin, and Gorbachev, Shevarnadze, Tyagnibok, Poroshenko, Far
        ion, Prokhorov, all were in the Komsomol and the Communist Party. And Chubais, Gaidar, Yavlinsky, Gribuskayte too! All were in the party!
        And what kind of communists are these, they are liberal fascists! Who did your mother take to the party? And these bastards made their way to power! And there are no people!
        In the 89 year, the number of the party was 17,4 million people, and this is the 286 million people in the USSR. What kind of communism !? No. When ideology is supported by less than 10 percent of the population!
        See this demagogy, Lenin and others. After the death of Stalin and the destruction of his entourage, there were no communists in Russia.
        I won’t vote for the Communist Party anymore! An empty chatter and shaking of air, that’s what remains of the party.
        1. 15+
          4 February 2015 09: 16
          Quote: Sid.74
          See this demagogy, Lenin and others. After the death of Stalin and the destruction of his entourage, there were no communists in Russia.
          I won’t vote for the Communist Party anymore! An empty chatter and shaking of air, that’s what remains of the party.

          So the idea is not to blame - Stalin did not "shake the air", Stalin did!
          Regarding the Communist Party, I agree. I myself think about the same.
          But ...
          United Russia by idle talk outdid Zyuganov and several other Communists in a television box billions of times.
          Just-Russians in general are only fluttering. for to the point. like the Communist Party are not allowed, they do not have a political program, but they were invented just for that. to select votes from the Communist Party.
          LDPR - there is no point in even discussing it because the name of the party has no connection with the activities of a single person. No Zhirinovsky is not a liberal, and he is no democrat. And about it. that this is a Russian project I’ll be silent at all. Also an invention of Yeltsin’s advisers to fool disgruntled heads and take away votes in a protest vote.

          so I’ll vote for the Communist Party, because only in this case will my vote not go to crooks or bourgeois.
          1. +5
            4 February 2015 09: 33
            Quote: Sergey S.
            So the idea is not to blame - Stalin did not "shake the air", Stalin did!

            That's right. You won’t be full of ideas! And from ideological communism, it’s worthless zero, without putting it into practice, in metal, so to speak.
            Quote: Sergey S.
            Regarding the Communist Party, I agree. I myself think about the same.

            So the Communist Party is now just a whistle! And that’s all. They talk and talk. In the morning, according to 24, Comrade Zyuganov often speaks. I don’t have the strength to listen to him and his sermons, how many productions were in the USSR and so on.
            After all, for 20 years they have not brought to the public that they want something !?
            Tired of the right word.
            Quote: Sergey S.
            United Russia by idle talk outdid Zyuganov and several other Communists in a television box billions of times.

            With China, who restored relations? Communist Party? Who signs the contracts?
            And you are aware that over the past 20 years, the Communists have not voted for one budget. A convenient position however. Baba-ega is always against it.
            Quote: Sergey S.
            so I’ll vote for the Communist Party, because only in this case will my vote not go to crooks or bourgeois.

            Your right! But in the South Urals the Communists are neither seen nor heard!
            So, let them continue to engage in demagogy! Perhaps they will die out as a species.
            If the party does not go to the voter, see such a party.
            Decent communists will appear, then I will vote for them.
            1. 0
              4 February 2015 10: 01
              Quote: Sid.74
              So, let them continue to engage in demagogy! Perhaps they will die out as a species.

              There is not a single communist in my house, there are only decent people around. good Although there is no lying, there is one communist, though the alcoholic is over wassat
              1. +7
                4 February 2015 10: 41
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                there is one communist, though an alcoholic is over

                There are a lot of us!!! bully
                1. Alex_Popovson
                  +2
                  4 February 2015 10: 51
                  There are a lot of us!!!

                  A lot!
                  1. 0
                    4 February 2015 12: 17
                    Really a lot. Only all this - at the "kitchen" level and forums in the Internet. But the task is worth it - what is needed is a real Bolshevik party of a new type, which could combine both legal forms of work (elections and, on certain conditions, cooperation with the existing government) and underground activities.
                    1. -4
                      4 February 2015 12: 50
                      Quote: OldWiser
                      But the task is that we need a real Bolshevik party

                      WHO NEEDS ???
                      Russia is definitely not needed.
                2. +2
                  4 February 2015 11: 23
                  Quote: DRA-88
                  There are a lot of us!!!

                  Oh, if such a thing, give 50 grams for communism without clinking glasses laughing
                  1. 0
                    4 February 2015 11: 26
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Oh, if such a thing, give 50 grams for communism without clinking glasses

                    provoke ???? laughing
                3. +4
                  4 February 2015 11: 39
                  Quote: DRA-88
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  there is one communist, though an alcoholic is over

                  There are a lot of us!!! bully


                  Alcoholics? drinks
                  1. -7
                    4 February 2015 13: 41
                    Communism is an ideology paid for and imposed by tsarist Russia by Germany, with the goal of the collapse of a strong country.
                    Tovarisch V.I. Lenin was in full German content, lived in pleasure abroad .. Until the owners ordered-FAS!
                    Someone wants to argue ??
                    1. +5
                      4 February 2015 14: 43
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      Tovarisch V.I. Lenin was in full German content, lived in pleasure abroad .. Until the owners ordered-FAS!

                      Imagine that thanks to "... Until the owners gave the order - FAS!", You ended up being born, what a grimace of fate, isn't it? :-)
                      1. -5
                        4 February 2015 14: 51
                        Quote: saag
                        you ended up being born, what a grimace of fate, isn’t it? :-)

                        I'm not sure that I and other citizens of Russia should be grateful to SUCH a grimace of fate. Because if not this "grimace" there were many more of us than now, the country would be larger in territory, and we would have lived much better, both 50 years ago and now! And certainly I was not born thanks to the seizure of power by the communists in Russia! Read human physiology, there is an alternative opinion on your unfounded statement.
                      2. +2
                        4 February 2015 16: 19
                        GSH-18
                        "Communism is an ideology paid for and imposed by tsarist Russia by Germany, with the aim of the collapse of a strong country.
                        Tovarisch VI Lenin ... "- YOU would still be twirling pigs' tails at the landowner in his barn, if Soviet power had been.
                      3. -2
                        4 February 2015 16: 52
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        You would still have the tails of a landowner in his stable for pigs, if the Soviet regime.


                        How do you know who his ancestors are, do not judge by yourself you probably all the tails twisted or crooked?
                      4. +3
                        4 February 2015 18: 39
                        RUSS (2)
                        I don’t really care who the ancestors of those are who, having taken advantage of all the benefits of Soviet civilization, brazenly and unprincipledly lie about their own country, using manuals that repeat word for word the same nonsense that was created by the US intelligence services and the West in general, was used 25 years ago and is still in use today.

                        It is NECESSARY to think with some head, and not to portray some "thoughts" as an unnamed place, they smell bad and the society is no longer perceived at all.

                        And for my distant ancestors, I am not ashamed, grain growers, teachers and the military were.
                        And you see, all crumple in sweet dreams, the crunch of French rolls, but Manka with Fenka in the bathhouse, while Vanka in the field?
                        Well, dream, it is not forbidden, arrogance and unscrupulousness, rudeness and hypocrisy of scribblers like you are punished.
                      5. -2
                        4 February 2015 18: 57
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        And you see, all crumple in sweet dreams, the crunch of French rolls, but Manka with Fenka in the bathhouse, while Vanka in the field?


                        The most stupid stereotype of pre-revolutionary Russia.
                      6. 0
                        4 February 2015 20: 42
                        RUSS (2)
                        The most stupid answer to the realities of life in tsarist Russia.
                        Read Uncle Gilyaya, correct your undoubtedly "highest" level of intelligence.
                      7. 0
                        4 February 2015 19: 59
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        lying impudently and unprincipled on his own country, using manuals, word for word repeating the nonsense that was created by US intelligence

                        Dear, I do not use manuals, I do not use phrases torn from the Internet in my comments. All that I write is solely my opinion, and my account of what is happening.
                        Unlike you, I’m not the Verkhovna Rada about the great Soviet past. I recognize both its bright sides and the dark ones (of which there are FULL!). This gives me the opportunity to adequately assess our history. Unlike you!
                        And insures against the repetition of past mistakes.
                        And yet, unlike you, I at least do not turn to rudeness and insults.
                        Conclusions, as visitors can always draw.
                        Sincerely.
                      8. 0
                        4 February 2015 20: 51
                        GSh-18 (
                        You lied so much here that you don’t have to think that you respect the undoubtedly great past of the country.
                        Exactly the same as you don’t have to think about the fact that you know something other than the yellow sources that you really read somewhere else, you’re not even on the Internet, on the basis of which you are trying to convince people of your innocence here.
                        YOU, without noticing it, a priori, write exactly that nonsense that such a "connoisseur" of the past as Nikolka Svanidze constantly treats from the screen. And he knows for sure, the "light" and the Dark, sides of life, precisely of his breed, because and always spits into the past.
                        Yes, and you are naughty pretty much, do not embellish yourself.
                        Rudeness is not always a direct promise in a certain direction, but also a stubborn lie, on a blue eye ..
                        I did not say anywhere, unlike you, that during the Soviet era, everything was fine, but here you are, with a bunch of dancing here, mired in dirty gossip. Insinuations, a pit of lies and distortions.
                        so, the VISITORS made their choice, having run through the whole discussion fluently, you can see, CHOICE is not in your direction. Although the minus-plus is a relative thing in any Internet system, there are quite a few examples when, in an attempt to show your case, it’s nasty side, uses a forbidden technique, through a clone, dragging himself the rate and advantages in the article.
                        Think about what it is.
                      9. 0
                        4 February 2015 21: 01
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        You lied so much here that thinking that you respect the undoubtedly great past of the country

                        I love my country and respect my past. Only this great past is not thanks to the Communists, but in spite of them! And do not stick to popular achievements. However, to whom am I saying this? The Communists always misinterpret everything in their favor, in order to crawl to the power that they have successfully disposed of! Remember, and chop on your nose: the second time you will not deceive the people!
                      10. 0
                        4 February 2015 21: 22
                        GSh-18 (4
                        Another exhaust of dirt and stupidity, change the record, you bore everyone with your enduring bad manners and small-wittedness ..
                        Do not sign for the PEOPLE, this burden is not on your shoulders, and not a hat for the seniors, you are too small for this.
                      11. -1
                        5 February 2015 08: 40
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Another mud exhaust

                        And you did not deserve anything more. Why love you then? For ruining the country? The kings gathered collected .. And then the Communists came belay
                        The people in expense, the country in 15 parts.
                        Now they pretend to be innocent lambs and climb into power again!
                        Fuck you, not power!
                      12. -1
                        4 February 2015 19: 32
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        You would still have the tails of a landowner in his stable for pigs, if the Soviet regime.

                        I doubt very much! But you would be sure!
                      13. -1
                        4 February 2015 19: 53
                        GSh-18 (4
                        With your level of thinking and attitude, what would you like, the maximum that you would have been fit 90 years ago, the sex in the tavern, do you know what this coolie is?
                        And at that time, in spite of your efforts, to pretend to be something that clearly did not meet the stated conceit, I would again live relatively normal, having a constant income, and served by people like you ...
                        All the same, ROD, this is ROD, and not ... well, you generally understand.
                      14. 0
                        4 February 2015 20: 03
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        All the same ROD, this ROD

                        Ahh, are you from the majors or something ?? Well then, it is clear. Daddy bought a computer?
                        Share a hello! lol
                      15. 0
                        4 February 2015 20: 53
                        GSH-18 (4)

                        finger again in ... sky ..
                        And someone a little higher, something said there that he was not HAM?
                        I don’t have to be ashamed of a kind, Bread growers and Teachers, Military, you see there is something to be ashamed of ...
                      16. -4
                        4 February 2015 20: 09
                        Dear Communist, the fact that you seized power in the 17th, deceived the people, mocked him, robbed him and killed him in the camps, and as a result, we PROVIDED the country! -That Russian people will NEVER FORGive you! And you can stick your attempts on the USSR 2,0 you yourself know where!
                        Then Putin had to plow for you "like a galley slave" In order to raise the country from its knees, pay YOUR debts, and RETURN NATIONAL PRIDE to us!
                        So go to the forest, dear with your neo-communist ravings!
                      17. +1
                        4 February 2015 20: 54
                        GSH-18 (4)
                        Yes, you do not sign for the whole PEOPLE, not on the shoulders of the burden, but not on the canopy of a hat ...
                        Stop lying ... tired of your whining ..
                      18. -3
                        4 February 2015 21: 11
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Stop lying ... tired of your whining.

                        So you are lying and whining in the Soviet Union here only you, the Communists. And normal people have not paid attention to you for a long time, no more than buffoons.
                        So also bother with your ram stubbornness. They say you have not justified yourself for 70 years. There is no trust in you! And you all have one thing, they were bad, we will be good. Go tell these tales to kindergarten. And I’m not sure that they will believe you there. Adios Amigo!
                      19. 0
                        4 February 2015 21: 23
                        GSh-18 (4
                        Do not be rude, unbridled talker.
                        Your nursery group, is not enjoying success.
                4. +1
                  4 February 2015 12: 53
                  There are a lot of us!!!
                  Yeah, support for the election of 15% and then the limit of dreams laughing .
                  1. 0
                    4 February 2015 20: 02
                    Sergei1982
                    Well, this is from the category of 146%, for EP .. Less steal votes in the elections.
                    Honesty is from good, but theft, this is EVIL, didn’t my mother teach before school?
                    1. +1
                      4 February 2015 20: 39
                      Quote: vladkavkaz
                      . Less steal votes in elections.


                      There are observers from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation at each polling station; they are also present when counting ballots.
                      1. +1
                        4 February 2015 21: 27
                        RUSS (2) RU
                        Yes, while recording a general violation of the law on elections, ballot box stuffing, fraud with counting.
                        My friend, was present, on the site, at school 26, tried to prevent the stuffing and the carousel-POLICE, nose to the side, they were throwing BUNCHES, so here, again, you landed in a big puddle ...
                        When do you stop lying?
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                      3. +1
                        4 February 2015 21: 32
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        When do you stop lying?


                        What is the lie? Is there always observers in the polling stations?
                      4. -1
                        4 February 2015 21: 34
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        at school 26, tried to impede the stuffing and the carousel-POLICE, nose to the side, TUPS were thrown

                        So there was a stuffing of ballots for the Communist Party, I remember this incident!
                      5. 0
                        4 February 2015 22: 13
                        RUSS (2) RU
                        Took a lie?
                        A throw-in and a carousel, a chatterbox, were for EP. When counting, some of the votes in addition, were cut off from the LDPR and SR, so do not talk.
                        And in what city did you see this, "eyewitness"?
                        What street and what is next to the 26th school?
                      6. 0
                        4 February 2015 22: 29
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        And in what city did you see this, "eyewitness"?
                        What street and what is next to the 26th school?



                        Vlad, I’m joking, I don’t know what 26 school.
                        In general, I think for today it’s enough to scold, if I offended with anything, as they say
                      7. 0
                        4 February 2015 21: 36
                        I was a member of the commission in the elections. And I saw carousels) and stuffing)
                      8. +1
                        4 February 2015 21: 40
                        Quote: Gemi
                        I was a member of the commission in the elections. And I saw carousels) and stuffing)


                        And were silent?
                      9. +1
                        4 February 2015 21: 48
                        Quote: Gemi
                        I was a member of the commission in the elections. And I saw carousels) and stuffing)

                        So the cameras saw it too. Can you name the site number and its territorial belonging?
                      10. -1
                        4 February 2015 22: 17
                        GSh-18 (
                        Yes, it’s good to do it already, it’s a pretty face, with a very losing card .. cameras, oh, well, it’s just a laugh laugh .. installed so that they show anything, just not what is happening, often the picture showed the same thing, well, talkers .. . THE MAIN hoax is not in the ballot box, and then, when they fill out the final document, not even in the TEC, but above that you are engaged in verbiage here, neither conscience nor honor, well, everything is like in EP-solid lies ..
                        It is not by chance that the elections to the State Duma, where mass fraud, are not recognized. And the presidential elections, where they FAVORED to cheat, are recognized.
                        It's a disgrace for you, at the polling station where Putin voted, the CPRF won the elections - THEY DID NOT DARE to engage in falsification.
                      11. -1
                        4 February 2015 22: 30
                        Guys are good to argue !!!!
                      12. -1
                        5 February 2015 08: 28
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Yes, it’s good to do already, a touching face, with a very losing card

                        So you just lose, the Communists! No one is voting for you! laughing And I will endure your cons.
                        Your disadvantages are better for me than the GULAG, the revolutionary "troikas" and "funnels" for the entire Russian people!
                      13. -1
                        5 February 2015 10: 22
                        Our cons for you, these are nails in your cage.
                        You can’t give a penny to a sick child that is broken, strangle you from anger and greed.
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            2. +9
              4 February 2015 11: 06
              Quote: Sid.74
              Your right! But in the South Urals the Communists are neither seen nor heard!
              So, let them continue to engage in demagogy! Perhaps they will die out as a species.
              If the party does not go to the voter, see such a party.
              Decent communists will appear, then I will vote for them.

              Dependency.
              If you personally do not do anything, a normal people's party will not appear in the South Urals ...
              So for the rest of your life, you will live under the liberals and water the Communists, for that. that they didn’t hold power.
              1. -3
                4 February 2015 11: 23
                Quote: Sergey S.
                So for the rest of your life, you will live under the liberals and water the Communists, for that. that they didn’t hold power.

                Why, I’d better support those who do it! And not Comrade Zyuganov!
                Agitation and propaganda know one thing, but the absence of communists on the ground is different! Lenin, if he just sat in Moscow, hell would have worked for two. I can only see the Communists on the first!
                I will not support the amusing communists, who in their inaction are worse than the liberals.
                1. -1
                  4 February 2015 14: 17
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  I will not support the amusing communists, who in their inaction are worse than the liberals.

                  Support!
                  Tired of these revanchist, neo-communist slogans and constant nit-picking to power !!! They themselves do not do anything, for criticizing the master!
                  We have already seen your leadership of the country!
                  And how YOU leaked it!
                  Go soar your brain to someone else! Russian on your communist crap will not throw.
                  You can minus how much you like, nothing will change from this!
                  Best regards hi
                  1. +1
                    4 February 2015 22: 37
                    GSh-18 (4) RU
                    interesting, interesting .. everything is more wonderful and wonderful, and why are you so hysterical?
                    The hysteria of the two of you, here in this article, already exceeds all conceivable and not conceivable limits .. You are for yourself, my friend. And only answer for yourself, what does your heavy painting for all the people in Russia have to do with it?
                    One is already lying, not abhorring, to see mom did not teach, that you shouldn’t lie, I threw a second tantrum, reads mantras here, spells from EP, we, yes, we won’t let it, we’ll lie down with bones, WHO will ask you if you to governing a country, NOT SUITABLE?
                    It’s the same reason that the President of the country, at a meeting with a jerk, forces some kind of dvorkevich to fulfill his duties, forcing the Russian Railways to perform the function that she is obliged to do for the country, but not for the pocket of the nouveau riche Yakunin ...
                    And such a hysteria, we will not allow it ... Putin would not have driven you like a filthy broom, for verbiage and inaction, deceit and fraud ... Chase, he will do a great job for the country.
                    "we will not allow" -Crown, crock, does not press?
                    1. -1
                      5 February 2015 08: 54
                      Quote: vladkavkaz
                      And such a hysteria, we won’t let it happen ... Putin wouldn’t have driven you like a filthy broom, for verbiage

                      Ltd! This is a thought exercise lol A real hysterical neo-communist pearl!
                      Now I know who I will first need to talk to with the help of Comrade Kalashnikov! And remember, the conversation will be short in Russian! am
                      1. 0
                        5 February 2015 10: 28
                        GSH-18 (4)
                        What can I say, the Nazi ... always was understandable, the liberal, in his baseness of the stage always slides into fascism, but as the extreme point of the fall-Nazism.

                        You, now, "Now I know with whom I will first need to talk with the help of comrade Kalashnikov! And mind you, the conversation will be short in Russian!" - expressed all your inner-EXACTLY like you, brought Ukraine to a bloody massacre.

                        And note, people like you did not accept in DONBASS, so AK decides everything, YES, decides, not in your favor.

                        Only with the type of weapon they were mistaken, you are not AK at the time, you are M16, you need the right weapon of capitalist ghouls.

                        You go to the ruin, there is your place, on the side of the bloody ghouls of Poroshenko.
            3. +1
              4 February 2015 12: 13
              Quote: Sid.74
              Decent communists will appear, then I will vote for them

              But the "decent communists" in the program will have to declare the dictatorship of the proletariat and the socialist revolution as a way to achieve it. And this is punishable under the current Criminal Code ("overthrow of the existing constitutional order"). So not everything is so simple.
              1. -1
                4 February 2015 15: 03
                Quote: OldWiser
                "decent communists"

                Like "Light Elves"? lol What the hell??
                1. -1
                  5 February 2015 10: 28
                  Type ORCs, they do not understand, there is nothing to understand, brains are not imprisoned for this.
          2. -7
            4 February 2015 11: 37
            Quote: Sergey S.
            so I’ll vote for the Communist Party, because only in this case will my vote not go to crooks or bourgeois.


            That is, who is not the rogue and the bourgeois with you? Nothing new.....
            1. +4
              4 February 2015 16: 22
              RUSS (2)
              And what hurt you so much that NAM, the majority with thieves and crooks who steal votes in the elections, are not on the way, as well as with that office plankton that rages in squares with a thief like Boris Nemtsov and Misha 2%, Kasyanov?
              1. -1
                4 February 2015 16: 54
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                RUSS (2)
                And what hurt you so much that NAM, the majority with thieves and crooks who steal votes in the elections, are not on the way, as well as with that office plankton that rages in squares with a thief like Boris Nemtsov and Misha 2%, Kasyanov?


                In your Communist Party of the Russian Federation, half are businessmen and empty-headed populists who are also making a fuss, by the way, where is Anpilov?
        2. +8
          4 February 2015 09: 27
          Quote: Sid.74
          ! You have the example of Yeltsin, and Gorbachev, Shevarnadze, Tyagnibok, Poroshenko, Farion, Prokhorov, all were members of the Komsomol and the Communist Party. And Chubais, Gaidar, Yavlinsky, Gribuskayte too! All were in the party!

          that you forgot to mention a person that at one time was "more abruptly a communist than Gennady Zyuganov." guessed it? Yes, this is Vladimir Vladimirovich.
          as far as communism is concerned, we would be able to overpower my opinion of socialism, for there was an unintended disruption in development, that it does not want and will not work for wages.
          1. +1
            4 February 2015 10: 09
            Quote: twviewer
            Yes, this is Vladimir Vladimirovich.

            Chekist! Yes This is not some philosopher Zyuganov! laughing
            1. +7
              4 February 2015 10: 12
              Quote: Sid.74
              Chekist! This is not some philosopher Zyuganov!

              Primakov was also from there, but his result of being a prime minister in 1998 looks much better than his followers
              1. +1
                4 February 2015 10: 21
                Quote: saag
                Primakov was also from there

                And total, we have Primakov, Putin and Glazyev perhaps! There are no more active communists left! laughing
                Zashibis! Yes
              2. 0
                4 February 2015 10: 34
                Quote: saag
                Primakov was also from there, but his result of being a prime minister in 1998 looks much better,

                And what happened, he came in September, and in 1999 when he left, salaries were not paid for a year. Maybe enough to jump, there is no maidan.
                1. +6
                  4 February 2015 10: 37
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Maybe stop jumping, it's not maidan.

                  Sir, there have never been Maidans in Russia, it could only last for months in Ukraine, history shows that all the main actions took place in Russia during the day.
            2. +4
              4 February 2015 11: 33
              Chekist! This is not some philosopher Zyuganov!

              This Chekist, during his speeches, likes to quote Ivan and Lyin, Solzhenitsyn, that is, those individuals who, with the support of the West, sought to destroy the USSR and with whom the KGB fought. And he was probably a communist like a Chekist ...
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 12: 22
                Quote: assam4
                This Chekist, during his speeches, likes to quote Ivan and Lyin, Solzhenitsyn, that is, those individuals who, with the support of the West, sought to destroy the USSR and with whom the KGB fought.

                He quotes both Sun Tzu and Churchill and kings!
                And what, then, according to your logic, is he a monarchist-Chinese-Anglo-Saxon?
                Quote: assam4
                And he was probably a communist like the Chekist ...

                That is the half of the world, led by the pindos, longing for its overthrow!
                But Russia, China supports it! It's a strange affair. And the Communists don’t like it, maybe the problem is in the Communists, who cut off the Crimea from Russia and Russia? And they created a man-made nation of Ukrainians!
                Let me remind you, when creating the USSR, Stalin insisted on the federation, Lenin insisted on the union!
                1. +3
                  4 February 2015 12: 47
                  , maybe the problem is in the Communists, who cut off the Crimea from Russia Novorossiya and?

                  Or maybe the problem lies in the false communists and traitorous liberals who divided the USSR into 15 "independent states".
          2. +2
            4 February 2015 10: 20
            Quote: twviewer
            Yes, this is Vladimir Vladimirovich.

            This is also a communist
            1. +6
              4 February 2015 11: 33
              This is, first and foremost, a pea drunk and a traitor to the Russian land! He denied the Communists and sold his soul to a golden calf!
              1. Past_ Crocodile
                -2
                5 February 2015 12: 19
                Quote: Igor Volkov
                This is, first and foremost, a pea drunk and a traitor to the Russian land! He denied the Communists and sold his soul to a golden calf!
                - like 95% of communes am
          3. Past_ Crocodile
            -7
            4 February 2015 11: 09
            GDP has changed the mind, but has not changed the principles (in contrast to the same Zyuganov). Thanks to him, Russia still means something. The Soviet Union would come to the same thing as the Communists around the world - homosimism and negrophilia.
            1. +2
              4 February 2015 12: 55
              Don't talk nonsense. As Mr. Muller used to say: "Actions and actions are the same!" Your bourgeois neuropa and ia - these are true examples of homosexuality and all other abomination. But in the USSR they simply sat down for it (read the Criminal Code of the RSFSR). And it is not yet known what the USSR would come to if people who really changed their views and principles did not come to power.
              1. Past_ Crocodile
                -3
                5 February 2015 00: 13
                Are you expanding or just not having a snack? This neuropa (and geyropa too) is entirely yours. Even your leaders of the past and present do not crawl out - that is Lenin and Trotsky, that Zyuganov and Gorbachev. The latter even sold the country for the Nobel Prize.
                1. -2
                  5 February 2015 10: 59
                  And you are true exclusively on spice winked, if you grind this nonsense, so it’s just not interesting for me to discuss with you. Unfortunately, I simply do not have enough time to list your leaders who simply live there now and those who have not yet stolen enough to leave there.
                  1. Past_ Crocodile
                    +2
                    5 February 2015 12: 05
                    That is why we are distinguished by the fact that I do not need leaders. It is here that you are digging under the current government, a government that annoys the West. Is it a strange coincidence? However, the Communists are not the first to receive Western grants and ride in sealed wagons.
                  2. Past_ Crocodile
                    0
                    5 February 2015 12: 05
                    That is why we are distinguished by the fact that I do not need leaders. It is here that you are digging under the current government, the very government that annoys the West. Is it a strange coincidence? However, the Communists are not the first to receive Western grants and ride in sealed wagons.
            2. 0
              4 February 2015 14: 48
              Quote: Past_ Crocodile
              The USSR would come to the same thing as the Communists around the world - homosimism

              What are you saying, here in the USSR there was an article for this, but not in the Russian Federation, so which country, under whose direction it came to universal values?
              1. Past_ Crocodile
                -2
                5 February 2015 00: 17
                And in the Russian Federation people themselves freaks break their hands. But leftists throughout Europe have bred homosexuals. Poorly disprove?
            3. 0
              4 February 2015 21: 28
              I look, today on the site there’s a direct communist sabbath! lol
              Just don’t whip here. lol No place for him here! am
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 22: 41
                Your coven is clearly not appropriate.
                Do not try, but your time has already run out.
                And the site has absolutely nothing to do with it, your lies, people and society as a whole are simply sick of it, while they just send you to the forest, to the clearing, well, in general to nature..., it will be worse when they start punching you in the face just for mentioning that United Russia.
                Oh, it’s not in vain that Vladimir Putin started a ONF, knows what ballast is in his way in EP and is no longer needed ...
                1. Past_ Crocodile
                  -2
                  5 February 2015 00: 38
                  Do you like to talk about yourself in the third person? Only us your exhibitionism on the drum.
                2. -3
                  5 February 2015 08: 59
                  Quote: vladkavkaz
                  And the site has absolutely nothing to do with it, your lies

                  First, return the stolen party gold to the people !!! And then open your mouth about "lies"! Who are the sponsors of the Communist Party? The FSB ought to ventilate this issue. Or have they already put their spies in there? AND?
                  1. +1
                    5 February 2015 12: 27
                    What would you pass it on to the people of America?
              2. -1
                5 February 2015 11: 04
                You are apparently just used to a liberal nativity scene. Now he is in fashion everywhere. How long?..
            4. Past_ Crocodile
              -4
              5 February 2015 00: 08
              Judging by the minuses without substantiating the position on the site of 6 alkunists? Who else?
        3. 13+
          4 February 2015 09: 37
          Quote: Sid.74
          What the hell is communism!? When the ideology is supported by less than 10 percent of the population!

          You are mistaken in%! This ideology is already supported by a much more impressive% of the population! And many never abandoned this ideology!
          1. +6
            4 February 2015 09: 45
            Quote: Svetlana
            You are mistaken in%!

            These are the numbers for the 89 year! Statistics and census of the USSR! Refute?
            How many people voted for the Communist Party in the last election?
            Support leftist ideas and vote for the Communist Party diametrically different things.
            And as you see, the fiery communists are not particularly added.
            And they lost another voice in my face! And Comrade Zyuganov may continue to roar with a beluga about the beautiful corpse of Lenin in the mausoleum.
            1. +1
              4 February 2015 10: 18
              Quote: Sid.74
              ! And comrade Zyuganov may continue to roar the beluga about the beautiful corpse of Lenin in the mausoleum.

              Zhenya, he hasn’t been there for a long time. Somewhere in storage is Tutankhamun. laughing
              1. +2
                4 February 2015 11: 43
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Quote: Sid.74
                ! And comrade Zyuganov may continue to roar the beluga about the beautiful corpse of Lenin in the mausoleum.

                Zhenya, he hasn’t been there for a long time. Somewhere in storage is Tutankhamun. laughing

                Lenin's mausoleum in Moscow will be closed for prevention
                The Lenin Mausoleum on Red Square in Moscow will be closed for two months in connection with the planned preventive work.

                Visitors will not be accepted from February 16 to April 16, according to the Moscow Agency, citing the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation.

                “This is an ordinary procedure that we carry out every two years. It includes the need to maintain the body of Lenin in proper condition, ”the source said.

                As REGNUM reported earlier, in the fall of 2012 the Mausoleum was closed for repairs, which was planned to be completed before the end of the year, but the completion deadlines were then repeatedly delayed, the reconstruction was completed only in May 2013. In the spring of 2014, the Mausoleum did not work for about a month in connection with the preparation of events dedicated to the 69th anniversary of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War.
            2. +6
              4 February 2015 10: 22
              Quote: Sid.74
              Support leftist ideas and vote for the Communist Party diametrically different things

              Yes. Communists are needed in parliament — as an alternative. But not as a state-forming ideology!
              They already had one chance, they successfully got through!
              There will be no second chance.
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 13: 11
                Dear GSh-18! You’re not GSH, but CPC.
                1. +3
                  4 February 2015 14: 10
                  Quote: Communist 1
                  Dear GSh-18! You’re not GSH, but CPC.

                  Well, they want to rename me again lol
                  Only for the point of view! And what will happen if neocommunists come to power ?? Crants to the Internet? laughing
                  1. +4
                    4 February 2015 14: 20
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    Well, they want to rename me again


                    I have already been "renamed" to both Russovitsa and Matias RUSSt laughing , this suggests that the opponents no longer have arguments and they are slipping into a banal childish name-calling and trolling.
                    1. Fox
                      Fox
                      +3
                      4 February 2015 14: 28
                      Quote: RUSS
                      this suggests that the opponents no longer have arguments and they are sliding into a banal childish name-calling and trolling.

                      laughing no!, in your case, Mark Twain already said this: "Never argue with... You will sink to their level, where they will crush you with their experience."
                      1. -1
                        4 February 2015 14: 59
                        Quote: Kettu
                        "Mark Twain" "Never argue with.

                        the Communists who have corrupted the country, otherwise

                        Quote: Kettu
                        You will descend to their level, where they will crush you with their experience .. "

                        This is how it will be right in this context Yes
                      2. Fox
                        Fox
                        +1
                        4 February 2015 15: 08
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Communists

                        Your ignorance crosses all borders laughing in other matters, there is nothing to be surprised at! Zaputintsy they are!
                      3. +1
                        4 February 2015 20: 29
                        Quote: Kettu
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Communists

                        Your ignorance crosses all borders laughing in other matters, there is nothing to be surprised at! Zaputintsy they are!

                        Again cheap populist statements that have nothing to do with the true.
                        Communists, they are! hi
                      4. 0
                        4 February 2015 20: 56
                        GSH-18 (4)
                        Are you talking about your statements, where do you sign for the whole PEOPLE in Russia that you are something unforgettable for something there?
                        Not a burden on your shoulders and not a senka hat.
                      5. Fox
                        Fox
                        +1
                        4 February 2015 21: 22
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Again cheap populist statements that have nothing to do with the true.
                        Communists, they are!

                        Where are you growing these laughing start over:
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        communists

                        "Never argue with idiot You will descend to their level, where they will crush you with their experience .. "
                        From these flows your Ignorance - lack of knowledge, lack of education, backwardness accompanying a certain action. According to Ushakov’s dictionary - lack of knowledge, lack of culture, backwardness;
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        That's how it will be right in this context

                        In what context is the context (from lat. Contextus - “connection”, “connection”) - a complete passage of written or oral speech (text), the general meaning of which allows us to clarify the meaning of the individual words, sentences, etc.
                        Lose context in a conversation - it is to stop understanding what the interlocutor relies on, or to interpret his thought in a different sense than that which the interlocutor implies, based on the semantic field of concepts given in the conversation. what you actually did with your inherent hand!
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Cheap populist statements again

                        Populism (from lat. Populus - people) - a political position or style of rhetoric, appealing to the masses
                        Many populists represent themselves as defenders of certain regions or certain social groups, such as, for example, workers, women, city dwellers, rural residents, workers in a certain industry, etc. In rhetoric, populists often use dichotomy (the “or-or” principle , that is, "no third is given") and claim to express the interests of the majority of the population. request
                        Still, "Mark Twain" picked the right name(see above) to such "grief commentators"
                      6. +1
                        4 February 2015 21: 47
                        Quote: Kettu
                        start over

                        Yes, you are straight Lekterman! Only you better to practice your neo-communist covens-steam first to release, so to speak, to take on a human form lol well, then come here. In order not to scare normal people with a good resource.
                        Note. I only wish you well.
                        Sincerely.
                      7. +1
                        4 February 2015 22: 43
                        So do not scare, rabid anti-communism, anti-Sovietism, lies,
                        always ends with the same Russophobia.
                        Well, who is it, and the dissident A. Zinoviev knew what he was talking about when he said the phrase, hit on communism, find yourself in Russia.
                      8. -3
                        5 February 2015 09: 26
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        A. Zinoviev knew what he was talking about when he said the phrase, hit communism, you find yourself in Russia.

                        Zinoviev signed the execution lists. For me, this is not credibility, but a bloody executioner, whose hands are to the elbow in the blood of the Russian people!
                      9. +1
                        5 February 2015 10: 43
                        GSH-18 (4)
                        One must possess a truly complete misunderstanding of the subject, which you try to have an opinion about, you can immediately see the student of the Fursenko school, does not know anything, but tries to judge everything

                        Zinoviev Grigory Evseevich (real name is Radomyslsky; as Jewish names in various sources, the first name is Eusebius and Ovsey, the middle name is Gersh, Gershen, Gershon and Hirsch, middle name Aronovich; party nickname Grigory; September 11 (23) September 1883 (18830923), Elizavetgrad, Russian Empire - August 25, 1936, Moscow, USSR) - Soviet political and statesman,
                        Source: http://www.aphorisme.ru/about-authors/zinovev/?q=4850

                        Alexander Alexandrovich Zinoviev (October 29, 1922, Kostroma province - May 10, 2006, Moscow) - Soviet and Russian logician, sociologist and social philosopher; writer.

                        In the last years of his life in the USSR and in exile, A. Zinoviev was considered a "well-known Soviet dissident." Zinoviev himself asserted: "I have never been a dissident ... I was stubbornly credited as a dissident."

                        Member of the CPSU in 1953-1976.

                        In the last years of his life, he is a critic of global capitalism.
                        http://zinoviev.info/wps/archives/283
                        and it
                        http://pomnipro.ru/memorypage11066/biography
                        So dear your nonsense, they say that you are poorly trained, do not know anything, in Russian-empty-handed.
                        Read Solzhenitsyn’s nonsense less at night and don’t watch TV stories, Nikolka Svanidze, you will go crazy with hatred and bile.
                      10. -2
                        5 February 2015 09: 19
                        Dear, teach YOUR materiel. "Fucked up the country" is Stalin's statement.
                      11. +1
                        5 February 2015 10: 44
                        Learn.
                        You LIE too much.
                        Books like snot about Arbat, as truth, do not offer.
            3. +2
              4 February 2015 13: 10
              And how can they increase, if on one channel Zvonidze is constantly broadcasting, on another pseudo-historical series, on the third idiotic shiny mugs are screaming that "You won't believe it!", on the fourth for the fifth year the underdeveloped youth in the second house can't share the women, on the fifth for the third year they've been making faces at pelmeni, and on all the others they're either killing, or catching those who killed, or flying saucers, or talking about ruins. In short, they're raising moron, and then they wonder why our people are somehow different...
              1. +1
                5 February 2015 10: 21
                Quote: Igor Volkov
                And why will they be added if on one channel

                Watch the news. And power will come with you wink
          2. +6
            4 February 2015 10: 02
            Quote: Svetlana
            ! And many never abandoned this ideology!

            And besides ideology, what can you offer?
            1. +1
              4 February 2015 13: 57
              You cannot even suggest this. Live guided by the low instincts of profit. Ideology is the backbone of any state! Until we have an ideology in our country, and not necessarily a communist one, we will observe rampant corruption, the fifth column that has burnt to the end, slandered history and people dumbing from the zombie.
          3. nvv
            nvv
            +2
            4 February 2015 10: 40
            Quote: Svetlana
            Quote: Sid.74
            What the hell is communism!? When the ideology is supported by less than 10 percent of the population!

            You are mistaken in%! This ideology is already supported by a much more impressive% of the population! And many never abandoned this ideology!

            Svetlana. For those who mock here about communism, do not pay attention. I did not live under communism; I lived under socialism.
            I have not seen a better society.
            Leading into a brighter future, we were led nowhere.
            Stalin might have brought. Now there are no forces capable of this.
            watch the video it will explain a lot to you
          4. Alex_Popovson
            0
            4 February 2015 10: 53
            And many never abandoned this ideology!

            So they are addicted to BDSM, and they just wanted humiliation and affection twenty years ago? How is it that everything has changed?
          5. +1
            4 February 2015 11: 41
            They do not support the ideology of communism, but the ideology of justice, and this is not the same thing, communism is generally utopia, there are not enough resources on earth for such an ideology and there are too many freeloaders, look around. Let's stop at least on socialism, there the motto is good and clear.
            1. Fox
              Fox
              +5
              4 February 2015 13: 37
              Quote: varov14
              and the ideology of justice, and this is not one and the same thing, communism is generally utopia, there are not enough resources on earth for such an ideology and there are too many freeloaders, look around.

              I don’t know how about utopia, but there shouldn’t be a place in communism to the ignorant it is a fact !, yes that in communism they generally have no place!
        4. 13+
          4 February 2015 09: 44
          ... Where are you the ardent builders of communism ...
          ... Who took your mother to the party? ...


          Мы worked and built SO that in 25 years they didn’t steal anything.
          A bunch of traitors (Kremlin the tip, and most importantly - their SERVICE ..!) - DECIDED to take EVERYTHING. And "controllers" - "siloviki" were taken to share. And how was this confronted: ideologues were the first to become fouled, and the country is 10 time zones. This is not a shit for you ** I am Yavrop, you cannot get on the bus to protest in Maska. I had to go 8 hours to Tushke ...

          And yet - look around. EACH marries or marries, Swear allegiance at the registry office, and at the altar in the church, EVEN sleep together (!!!) - and divorces MORE HALF ..!

          CHALLENGE is part of this life. We, Russians, need to learn to be more demanding of our surroundings.
          And who among us loves it, saying unpleasant things to his wife, friend, boss, or commissioner ???
          COMFORT IS MORE EXPENSIVE!
          So we have what you deserve ...
          But the experience is there! laughing
          1. 0
            4 February 2015 11: 58
            Alas, socialism is a system with systemic defects, and the inevitable arrival of a thief at the people's feeding trough is one of them. And experience stepping constantly on a rake, I agree to eat.
        5. +6
          4 February 2015 10: 15
          Sid.74
          "Nafig, nafig! I saw what kind of communists there are! You are an example of Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Shevardnadze, Tyagnibok, Poroshenko, Far
          ion, Prokhorov, all were members of the Komsomol and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. And Chubais, Gaidar, Yavlinsky, Gribuskaite too "-Yes, these individuals carried a party card in their pocket, yes, they held positions, but did you take the trouble to figure out where all this came from? crawled out, where did the soil come from, where did this snake tribe grow up?

          In your environment, among your friends, of those who have remained faithful to the idea that all of them are the same as the individuals indicated above?

          You don’t have to take the fortress head-on, it’s enough at its core, the command staff to introduce the traitor Judah, and this is what the West succeeded in, and only then, all this snake army, using the power of the state, system, made people like you believe that the socialism system vicious, made me think that the mask of humanity put on the bloody grin of capitalism is a true face. Do you still believe in the heirs of the Gaidar-Chubais cube? So you are a demagogue, you are the one who objectively defends the liberal paradigm that has been ruining the country for 25 years .

          You, of those who are prone to rya-patriotic cries, without taking into account the simplest thought, are in such a frenzy, those who stuffed their pockets, grow fat, and the rest lose weight .. Ruin, in the brightest way, showed that liberalism is degenerating in its purest form, when there is a seemingly strange alliance between refined liberals and cave Nazis-Fascism triumphs.

          The ideology of portability is supported by 3%, another 5% are those who serve this layer of nouveau riche, and the rest is liberal in monetary terms, under the guise of a social hospice, with NO GIFT.
          1. -1
            4 February 2015 10: 43
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            You, of those who are prone to rya-patriotic cries, without taking into account the simplest thought, are in such a frenzy,

            You like the idea of ​​communism, forward and with the song! Do not see the changes in the world, your right!
            From your words, it turns out that it was enough to introduce several traitors so that everything was covered with a copper basin. An incredibly strong system. Monolith damn it. And fucking jeans and a VCR turned out to be more important for many, the Komsomol badge and the idea that once in another life everything will be communism was also free. And at that time, super collective farms could not provide the USSR with grain. How so? Again, tell the enemy propaganda?
            The USSR is dead! You can beat your head against a wall, you can mourn it, but it IS NOT, from the word at all.
            But I’m going to scribble and support Putin even before losing my pulse! This is my right! Putin returned Crimea to Russia, and the Communists have ... torn it apart! Like the USSR. With his struggle against Stalinism. Hello Khrusheva.
            Gold was exported from the USSR by the Communists in exchange for grain, and Putin returns it on a scale hitherto unseen in the world.
            And the grain is exported from Russia, and not vice versa!
            And do not talk about consumer .. when you write a message on a personal computer of foreign manufacture, which runs on windows.
            Since it is funny!
            1. +4
              4 February 2015 11: 28
              Sid.74
              Yes, you are a restless subverter, that’s how it is, lead to the head of any
              ALIEN enterprise and he will overwhelm this enterprise.
              You yell about these jeans and other things-YES, headless bought a bright sticker-Made by hell knows where, having bored his country.

              You are not convincing in your thoughts, comments.
              As they say, if a patient has a runny nose, then they treat the cause, and do not cut off their heads, which is exactly what your apologists for the liberal dope in the country did.
              Enough of yelling about the exported gold and other crap, I’m tired of hearing this howl of liberal cliches that SAMI themselves pogrom in the country, causing damage to it, worse than from Hitler’s invasion.
              The ever-dancing Herod, Gaidar, was looking for that gold, found it?

              Exported gold in exchange for grain - oh, so you feed on our holy spirit, you absorb the fluids around the GDP, and that's what you're full of, no need to spout nonsense.

              The Union bought grain, yes, BUT FODDER, and now, you say we trade? YES?
              And then why is bread in price growing inside the country? Where did the herds of IFAs and cattle go?
              What do we end up buying from kenguryatina to buffalo and beef in Argentina?

              Putin returned the Crimea to achieve, and Yeltsin missed the Crimea, so who is to blame?
              "Putin returned Crimea to Russia, and the communists about ... ralied him! Just like the USSR. With his fight against Stalinism. Hi Khrushev." a single national economy, where is the territory administratively located?

              YOU broke the country, and now you howl that everyone is to blame, and in particular the Communists, presenting yourself as white and fluffy immaculate builders of "new Russia" in a liberal way, where everything works a bit of a bite?
              Well, what the hell are you for, if you don't know anything?

              Putin returned to CRIMEA, not Putin, but circumstances AUTHORITIES dictate to the capitalist elite of Russia such a method of behavior, otherwise they will sweep away, it’s impossible to use jingoistic patriotism.

              Putin returned to Crimea because capitalism cannot exist if it does not arrange a war, in this case, the United States against Russia, all for the same things and for the same patterns-MARKETING SALES and control over a possible competitor.

              Putin returned .. Well, it’s time for Putin to return the MUST to the people, who have been forced to endure the screams of frantic thieves for 25 years, paying for it with the worsening of their lives — there’s no need to sing songs about a bunch of cars on the roads, the credit stranglehold has already sobered many.
              1. +3
                4 February 2015 12: 02
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                YOU have broken the country

                Who are you? I did not vote for Yeltsin! For Gorbachev too! When it comes to you that the idea without the people supporting it is dead! It's all blah blah blah!
                But the current Communists, at least support, at least not! There will be no sense!
                Watch the Left’s speeches in Germany, and Zyuganov’s mournful moans that you don’t want to live from. And their endless smearing of snot is sick and tired! There is no positive development in ideas and thoughts.
                The Communists stopped in their development! The Communist Chinese took and made new productions according to the hated capitalist patterns. What prevented the USSR from doing this? Traitors who also turned out to be Communists, yes? No, the static and bureaucratic consciousness of the party. The economy model has no alternative! When the whole world changed , Thanks to the pseudo-communists, the USSR stomped on the spot.
                And from the Communist Party. Only heard. It was during the USSR, it was under the USSR, it was under the USSR!
                Either the Communist Party will be converted into something worthwhile and updated, or it will die, I won’t mourn them! They will shoot the driven horses! And I repeat again, after Stalin, the development of the USSR stopped!
                And Putin, hated by you, has done more for the country than the communists over the previous 40 years, having "liberals" in the team.
                Although the most liberals were also Communists. Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Gaidar, Chubais, Yavlinsky, who carried out predatory privatization!laughing
                1. 0
                  4 February 2015 12: 09
                  Sid.74 (4)
                  Loud, stupid, hysterical.

                  "The communists stopped in their development! The communist Chinese took and made new industries according to the hated capitalist patterns. What prevented the USSR from doing this? Traitors who also turned out to be communists, right? No, the static and bureaucratic consciousness of the party. There is no alternative to the economic model! When the whole world was changing, the USSR, thanks to the pseudo-communists, was marking time. "- LOUD, hysterical, but absolutely not logical.

                  "And Putin, hated by you, has done more for the country than the communists over the previous 40 years, having" liberals "in their team.
                  Although the most liberals were also communists. Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Gaidar, Chubais, Yavlinsky, who carried out the predatory privatization! "- LOUD, HYSTERIC and absolutely not logical.
                  A sect of witnesses to the arrival of GDP?

                  You are less hysterical in the comments, less lies, juggling and juggling, less, less listen to your scream like a grouse on the current, but read more and generally think when something in response to your comments is answered when they call wow tantrum.
                  1. 0
                    4 February 2015 12: 18
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    Loud, stupid, hysterical.


                    This is acceptable to those who stupidly believe in the reality of communism, loud и hysterically cries about the past, failing to find himself or is being rebuilt under new realities. History has repeatedly proved that it did not work out with communism, but apparently it didn’t reach everyone.
                    1. +3
                      4 February 2015 12: 39
                      RUSS (
                      Have you decided to declare your illiteracy even louder and more powerful?
                      Congratulations, you succeeded.

                      For those who are not very literate, I will allow myself to conduct a short educational program (are you familiar with this abbreviation?), so, in the History of mankind, the formations of socio-political and economic systems have the ability to replace each other, while some qualities of the previous system work within the system that replaced it. It is called the SPIRAL of development.

                      If it’s hard for you to figure out what you’re talking about, then please be kind enough to find a textbook that tells about the change of feudalism to capitalism in England, an instructive story for some illiterate.
                      Then there you will find another example, from the same series, and slavery, a relic of the past, successfully used in the USA right up to the end of the 19th century

                      So you are here, do not loudly hysteria that "hysteria" out of ignorance of the history of something has proved there, NEW is always difficult, but it makes its way, burying those who cling to the wild past under the remnants of the past.

                      Russia was the first on this path, it is always difficult for the FIRST and is not immune from mistakes, but a rollback to the past, temporary, whether you like it or not, but all of you here screaming about capitalism as "the best" is temporary in a continuously developing society.
                      MOROK which has swept the country in 90, is scattered.
                      1. +2
                        4 February 2015 14: 31
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        For not very literate, I allow myself to conduct a small educational program (


                        As you are already tired of me "graduated historians", you teach your children, where historians, philosophers and theorists do not spit everywhere, you have forgotten in your comments the catch phrase - "teach materiel." I don't need your lectures.
                      2. +2
                        4 February 2015 16: 03
                        RUSS (2)
                        So you admit that you don’t understand a damn thing about what’s going on, but you’re trying to reason on a topic that’s zero in phase?
                        Well then, another question, it directly begs-Who won the victory in 1945?

                        Who was the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and why, his name, as well as the role of the party that organized the VICTORY, so bashfully wiped, during the PARADISES, silently and in a rag screaming about anything, but not about the fact that it’s the Communists, whose two composition , the best of their best people in the country, that you would die here, you would pour mud over them.

                        And how long will you and your kind, straight out of hatred of the Communists and the USSR, click about that Victory is yours, if it does not have anything to do with you? Supporters of capitalism, kulaks and other whites in that war were on the other side of the FRONT -REDS, SKINS, SEEDS, YES AND VLASOVS ARE YOUR HERO, IS IT NOT TRUE?
                      3. 0
                        4 February 2015 16: 17
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Well then, another question, it directly begs-Who won the victory in 1945?


                        What is the catch of the question?
                      4. 0
                        4 February 2015 16: 48
                        Hello, should I also answer your own question?
                        Well, exert all the power of your intellect, give birth to a thought, we will read, evaluate how much you
                        really the father of democracy and the giant of thought ..
                      5. -2
                        4 February 2015 16: 59
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        how much are you
                        really the father of democracy and the giant of thought ..


                        "The giant of thought" is already on the site.
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Hello, should I also answer your own question?

                        I do not answer stupid and obvious questions.
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        really the father of democracy


                        Yes, I am a father, the father of two daughters, and you, as I see it, are the father of demagogy.
                      6. +1
                        4 February 2015 18: 45
                        RUSS (2
                        The lack of one’s thoughts does not justify the presence of two daughters.

                        The inability to answer the question does not add respect to the quality of the educational process of the father of two charming girls.

                        Dyslexia and a tendency to empty chatter do not paint an adult, but an infantile little man, the father of two daughters.

                        Try to strain your remarkable "intellect" without confusing what you strain, in order to understand the essence of the question and answer the question, at least for yourself, and then, for your daughters, who someday ask their "intellectually brilliant" dad , but how did you pass the country, with such intelligence?
                      7. -1
                        4 February 2015 19: 04
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Try to strain your remarkable "intellect" without confusing what you strain, in order to understand the essence of the question and answer the question, at least for yourself, and then, for your daughters, who someday ask their "intellectually brilliant" dad , but how did you pass the country, with such intelligence?


                        Reading your comments, you remind me of a grumbling bazaar woman, or a former intellectual who drank a little. In short, the loser-intellectual country prosra..i and you are in the 91st, so do not hell on others to blame.

                        ps in the 91st I was 10 years old.
                      8. 0
                        5 February 2015 11: 02
                        RUSS (
                        "ps in 91 I was 10 years old." - This explains a lot, you are a child of total lies of the period of 90, the beginning of the zero years, unable to think logically, soberly due to the crippled education system, only able to assimilate what is rushing from the zombie box, because to read anything else that does not correspond to officialdom, there is neither desire nor habit, to understand what is happening, to correlate where is the truth, where is forgery, where is distortion, where is a quote taken out of context, and where is a simple and blatant LIE.

                        The clearest example of those who think how you were brought up in this system are those who in the Program the Historical Process, stubbornly, contrary to facts, arguments, realities,
                        voted for the mouthpiece of lies-Svanidze.

                        I would recommend that you, the Internet is big, come and look at the entire transmission cycle in order to assimilate, LIE, since the anti-communists lie, only the inveterate Russophobes are capable, who perfectly understand that they can’t survive and keep the stolen wealth, until you and others like you get out from a web of lies woven by them.

                        And the last thing that happened in Ukraine is the fruit of insane deceitful propaganda that cut off the real story, replacing it with a fictional one, to please the narrow clan of oligarchs, who now pushed the people into a fratricidal war in order to maintain their power.
                        Your colleague in thoughtlessness-GSH18, has already agreed that it wants to ... I dare to tell you in the affirmative-ATTEMPT of such figures that doing something like this will cause such an explosion that they are unlikely to have time to run to the plane, the ship or somewhere else.
                        Your idol, Putin, understands this very well.

                        And at the expense of "In short, a loser-intellectual, the country is screwed up ... and you are in 91st, so do not blame others." - Let this rubbish remain on your conscience, stupid father, of two daughters.

                        You now, not understanding what you’re carrying, bring down the country.
                        Success to you, just remember, the trenches, they are different, do not turn out on the other hand, against the people, like those who aimlessly, stupidly die in the Debaltsevsky cauldron in the glory of the oligarchy.

                        Many of us are not accustomed to holding weapons and know how they are used, unlike you, an office plankton that can only lie on the Internet and trade wholesale and retail in the country.
                  2. +3
                    4 February 2015 12: 44
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    You are less hysterical in the comments, less lies, juggling and juggling, less, less listen to your scream like a grouse on the current, but read more and generally think when something in response to your comments is answered when they call wow tantrum.

                    You haven’t brought a single counterargument!
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    A sect of witnesses to the arrival of GDP?

                    And anyway, what did you want to say? Lenin is alive? Stalin is alive?
                    Are you going to overthrow Putin?
                    The more I communicate with such communists, the more chances are that I will never vote for communists again. This business is futile.
                    You threw a bunch of accusations against me, turned to the person and didn’t bring any counterarguments. Goodbye. I wish you a bright communist future, without traitors to the Communists, in the ranks of the Communists.
                    1. 0
                      4 February 2015 12: 53
                      Sid. 74 (
                      Ay yai yay .. how not beautiful ..
                      You don’t know how to argue and immediately start looking for a transition supposedly to a person, implying that you are allegedly insulting ..
                      So you either be a PERSONALITY, or do not talk nonsense that you would argue with those who are a PERSONALITY, who can each of your unsuccessful pearls of officialdom and direct impudent and brash in many cases propaganda, to challenge and refute.

                      On not so long ago past programs, where an apologist for the country's liberal-monetary policy and the construction of capitalism, Nikolk Svanidze, with a bunch of rabid talkers, ONCE AGAIN, suffered a crushing defeat on all issues, just as he did not wriggle to justify capitalism and defame socialism.
                      Here you are, exactly the same ..
                      He is offended ..
                      To school, to learn material that is not learned in running around the corridors ...
        6. +2
          4 February 2015 10: 17
          Quote: Sid.74
          Where were you ardent builders of communism used to be when the USSR fell to pieces?

          100% support! If this is such a cool ideology, let the Americans first test it for themselves, now it's their turn! lol
          1. +1
            4 February 2015 12: 04
            Ideology was probably not bad, naturally without an extreme communist bias, if it were not involved in internationalism, but in nationalism, not to be confused with Nazism. You won’t heat everyone, the country and the people first of all, and then the antlers. Now we are no different from the Communists in foreign policy, we can send humanitarian aid to Africa and leave us in trouble. A pantorez all can not stand. Being obligated to someone is something.
            1. +2
              4 February 2015 12: 20
              Quote: varov14
              Now we are no different from the Communists in foreign policy, we can send humanitarian aid to Africa and leave us in trouble.


              Now, by the way, there is talk of possible assistance to Greece ...
        7. +8
          4 February 2015 10: 22
          The USSR is a state from the future. And about the demagogy of Lenin is not necessary, all over the world,
          recently, polls show his name among the first personalities of the twentieth century.
          1. +1
            4 February 2015 10: 37
            Quote: aleksfill
            The USSR is a state from the future.

            Yeah, in dreams, in a dream laughing
            Quote: aleksfill
            And about the demagogy of Lenin is not necessary, all over the world,
            recently, polls show his name among the first personalities of the twentieth century.

            Something no one interrogated me. And who conducted the survey and where? Zyuganovites at their party congress, then I believe wassat
          2. +1
            4 February 2015 12: 21
            Quote: aleksfill
            recently, polls show his name among the first personalities of the twentieth century.


            Perhaps, since they have hammered "Lenin" into the brain specifically, that until the generation changes, Lenin will probably remain a man of the twentieth century.
            1. 0
              4 February 2015 15: 29
              Good morning! .. The generation has long been replaced. But unfortunately, a new generation is driven into the brain by names that I personally do not want to remember at all. There is simply no one to compare in scale with. But at the moment, one person in the country now has such a chance, and God forbid that he take advantage of it and bring it to its logical conclusion. Having such support from the people - I must bring it!
          3. 0
            4 February 2015 20: 54
            Quote: aleksfill
            USSR is a state from the future

            God forbid my country once again enter this ge! Enough with us once. Save save and have mercy!
            1. -2
              4 February 2015 21: 20
              GSh-18 (4
              Well, let’s say it’s not only yours, but mine as well, and such kind of people. And we will be more so, so don’t shout so loudly, don’t carry any nonsense and do not try to blame others.
              Well this is necessary, Putin didn’t growl much at the fools who had canceled electric trains in the country, survived, the President of the country was forced to carry out their own work for liberal, cool monomials, because they have no head there is nothing behind the soul.
              Kinder-surprise Dvorkovich "controls" -Fo roar, where is it in the quagmire ...
              In general, it’s not a little hat for you to decide for the country what it needs.
              1. -3
                4 February 2015 22: 00
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                and we will be more

                Who is it YOU ??? Selling, thieving communist losers or what?
                Well, dream, dream. You have always been distinguished by this (to make a fairy tale come true ..) So you haven’t done anything good. The country that the kings gathered, YOU collapsed, devoured and drank. There is no public trust in you, and never will be!
                1. +2
                  4 February 2015 22: 10
                  GSH-18 (4)
                  what nonsense .. drink less vodka vodka, they will not visit such murderously stupid thoughts, and especially will not write them on the pages of a normal site.
                  1. -4
                    5 February 2015 09: 49
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    thoughts and moreover you will not write them

                    Thank God, now you can’t shut up people’s mouths, as they did for 70 years of the Russian communist genocide. I remember well, even after Brezhnev’s death, when the Andropov came to power, people from circuses and theaters (right from the shows!) Were taken away. They didn’t shoot the truth, only they sent them to mental hospitals. Pumped them with psychotropics. As a result, a vegetable was obtained from a normal person. And this is only for their own opinion!
                    AND NOW YOU WILL LISTEN TO ALL THAT YOU SAY IN YOUR FACE am . May God give health to Putin!
                    1. 0
                      5 February 2015 11: 06
                      You and the parasites like you did the right thing, and brought down the country, running around Moscow like a flock of shrill baboons, now who turned out to be accurate tracing from you, on Maydaun in Kiev. The result is the same.
                      And your screech is of little interest.
                      It’s too stupid for someone to think that what’s behind you is more than an empty head and a lying tongue.
                      You are a democratic vegetable sitting on the Ostankino needle.
                    2. +1
                      5 February 2015 11: 23
                      Yes, now no one is kicked out of circuses bully because they staged a 20 year old circus reality show smile And they don’t shut their mouths to anyone. Now they say on March 1, people with huge mouths, speaking with a London accent, again applied for some kind of march. Listen to your health! They will yell right in your face. True, some of them are drawn to check on sanity, and some are just given in the face to turn them into a vegetable
                      1. -1
                        5 February 2015 11: 26
                        Igor Volkov
                        EXCELLENT commentary, it is perfectly said, precisely about such .... GS 18 in a line screaming all sorts of nonsense.
                2. +1
                  5 February 2015 11: 14
                  And I think the opposite winked That you can’t steal and sell over the hill for 20 years everything that the people created in 70 years. You don’t have enough power to justify and slander everything that was created then with the blood of the people.
        8. Past_ Crocodile
          +2
          4 February 2015 11: 00
          Quote: Sid.74
          Where were you ardent builders of communism used to be when the USSR fell to pieces?

          - they helped to ruin it. Example -

          Quote: Sid.74
          Yeltsin, and Gorbachev, Shevarnadze, Tyagnibok, Poroshenko, Far
          ion
        9. +4
          4 February 2015 11: 20
          Communist Party leaders ideologically switched to the positions of social reformism, and in fact became the same paid-for-bourgeois party as EdRo.
          1. 0
            5 February 2015 11: 35
            Maybe you are partially right, but there are all sorts of nuances here that a whole book is not enough to describe. We can say with confidence that the actions of today's Communist Party lacks offensiveness and attachment to today's realities. Not enough bright personalities or their promotion. The propaganda line does not work. And much more. But people vote for ideas. And they do not twist light and kind. And they will always vote for these ideas, and there you look and a real leader will appear.
        10. 0
          4 February 2015 11: 57
          Sid.74 (4) RU Today, 09:02 ↑
          Nafig, nafig! I saw what communists there are! You are an example of Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Shevardnadze, Tyagnibok, Poroshenko, Far. "" "
          You confuse the idea itself with individuals ... who suck on this idea ...
          And were those mentioned above communists????
          And V. Stalin: "With the development of socialism, the class struggle will only intensify." Which was confirmed by the collapse of the USSR....
          In And Lenin ... persons with a petty-bourgeois element came to the party ... "
        11. Fox
          Fox
          +1
          4 February 2015 13: 16
          Quote: Sid.74
          Empty chatter and shockedИe air

          And what do you think they should do ???, I hope that you answer, the question is the simplest!
          1. 0
            4 February 2015 14: 27
            Quote: Kettu
            And what do you think they should do ???

            Change, renew, rebuild like a party. Change the rhetoric with it, it will do it! Look with wide-open eyes at the world today. Don't live in the past. Already reject Lenin’s mummy, which they worn with like a grave, to recognize the problems of the formation of the USSR, and the problem of the division of the Russian state into parts by the Bolsheviks.
            Most importantly, the party should have new faces! Zyuganov is no good. Look at the Left in Germany. They speak briefly and meaningfully.
            Zyuganova, on the other hand, constantly carries away her memories of the USSR, which is no longer there.
            And in a monotonous voice, he talks for half an hour about the collective farms of millionaires, about Marxism and Leninism, who needs it. The party cannot consist of one Zyuganov, who climbs every program. The parties need new, literate young managers who are experienced in business and who are ready work including with United Russia.
            And to work on agitation throughout the country, he is once again learning to work with people on the streets, and not to bunch up and express his disagreement in front of cameras. Communists need to return to the people. People, because from memory, I’m just a couple of names from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation I can remember Zyuganov, and that’s because the names are loud, Lokot and Kalashnikov.
            1. Fox
              Fox
              +1
              4 February 2015 15: 01
              Quote: Sid.74
              .Change rhetoric with was, will be

              laughing will not, but what are they going to do (and for this it is necessary at least to follow the initiatives of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and its program) and the rhetoric "will be" this can current "Pu" since "Vanga" has already died "in two years the crisis will end, bear with it" laughing
              Quote: Sid.74
              Deny everyone already tired of Lenin's mummy, with which they are worn as a hanged grail.

              How can they reject it when even some cranks are not able to leave the dead man (although he is more alive than the living) alone finally !?
              Quote: Sid.74
              . Recognize both the problems of the formation of the USSR and the problem of the disintegration of the Russian state into parts by the Bolsheviks.

              laughing here you are haunted by everything, and someone else said "Do not live in the past" laughing straight biblical sin !, they are not obliged to do this "the son does not answer for the father" and communism is not monopolized by anyone!
              Quote: Sid.74
              Zyuganov is no good

              Respected laughing "the retinue makes the king" and not on the other hand, remember, "cadres decide everything," fuck what's the point that "Pu" is on the cranes laughing is flying?
              Fu laughing then there is no power to write, and then I feel I begin to plunge into your substance laughing
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 16: 23
                Quote: Kettu
                and then I feel I'm starting to plunge into your substance laughing

                Why then asked? I answered you. Have you posted more smiles and rejoice straight to the drop!
                If the Communist Party of the Russian Federation will not change, it will remain a dull substance, with the not immortal "Zyu" who is not a boy at all! And with each rally the support will be less and less.
                But if he decided to bury the Communists and all the Communists agreed with this, then they care about that. The idiotic habit of the Communists to be carried forward from the party seats with their feet. Once again, they will play a cruel joke with them.
                And then to hell with sense from these necrophiles who even cannot say goodbye to a mummy!
            2. -2
              5 February 2015 10: 02
              Quote: Sid.74
              Zyuganov is no good

              Their whole party is no good!
              Yes, they should KNEELY beg forgiveness from the whole Russian people! For your bloody crimes before the people and the country! (The cult of Stalin’s personality, the Gulag, the collapse of the great country that he inherited from the tsars, the genocide of the Russian people, the famines) if anyone forgot.
              1. +1
                5 February 2015 11: 12
                GSh-18 (
                Kneeling, are you familiar?
                Continue, you need her more than anyone else, this is already a distinctive feature of those like you.
                The language is not in calluses? Well, it's temporary, so hard to lie like you and your kind, the language will become like a leather insole with the same degree of fragrance.
                And for the PEOPLE, do not sign, offended, not in a senile cap, not on the shoulders of a burden.
                Somehow your cries are reminiscent of Svanidze’s cries, and he, well, has no relation to the Russian people.
                Kondovaya anti-communist, always Russophobia go on and on, you’ll still answer for the destroyed factories, for the people brought to the graves, ahead of schedule, in amount comparable to the losses in the Great War.
              2. +3
                5 February 2015 11: 48
                Is there something in your lap? Or do you consider yourself a nation? Not modestly! negative
                Before you press the keys and carry any nonsense, it would be more useful to read historical sources from the beginning, to study the life of the kings of our righteous and not so much. How many Russian people did they put, and how did the Russian people obtain land for them. Check out the real loss of population as a result of the so-called repressions of 17-39. I assure you, you will learn a lot of interesting and most importantly useful for yourself. Believe me, it’s time, even when you’re just GS-18 wink
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      2. DPZ
        15+
        4 February 2015 09: 19
        there is no capitalism with a human face
      3. +7
        4 February 2015 09: 35
        Quote: GRF
        can be done under capitalism with a human face ...

        Capitalism with a human face does not happen a priori!
      4. 0
        4 February 2015 11: 56
        This is done in the program of the New Communists, alas, so far only with them.
    3. -11
      4 February 2015 08: 41
      The future is communism!

      The author has obviously confused something. It would be more correct: "The past is behind communism!"
      The USSR did not resist the United States, it is a fact. Why do we need such repetition-shock ?? We still have enough tasks. We stand against the United States and NATO now, that means the model of our state has taken place, and only full id ... t will change it to a communist one!
      With all due respect to the USSR hi
      And I want to say to all returnees of the USSR 2,0, guys, what happened was gone. We must go forward, and not whine around the USSR. Yes
      1. -7
        4 February 2015 09: 02
        Quote: GSH-18
        And I want to say to all returnees of the USSR 2,0, guys, what happened was gone.

        And they are tempted again "to the bottom and then". But will the foundation hold up and will it be "then", and even if it does, it will obviously differ from what they mean, and it is absolutely not necessary for the better.
        1. +1
          4 February 2015 09: 20
          Quote: Nagan
          And they are itching to again "to the ground, and then"

          Thank! I ONE time already had a change of order of the nineties! For my children, I do not wish this.
          It is necessary to improve what is now! And do not break and build anew do not understand what and how, not knowing what exactly will turn out in the end. For what is this nonsense ???
          Who wants riots and the collapse of the country? fool
          1. +5
            4 February 2015 09: 45
            Quote: GSH-18
            And do not break and build anew nepoymy what and how, not knowing what exactly will turn out in the end. For what is this nonsense ???

            They have already broken everything before us. Remember Gaidai's film "Operation Y"? : "Everything before us has already been stolen!"
            There’s nothing to break! It is from scratch and we must begin to build on the good Soviet experience!
            1. +1
              4 February 2015 09: 57
              Quote: Svetlana
              They have already broken everything before us. Remember Gaidai's film "Operation Y"? : "Everything before us has already been stolen!"
              There’s nothing to break! It is from scratch and we must begin to build on the good Soviet experience!

              Do not talk nonsense. You type of bad life? belay Sit at a computer miscalculate, not hungry thinks. The country is in a stable situation. Armed forces on the level. RF is far from a banana republic. The population has work. You can list for a long time.
              And you- "There is nothing to break" belay
              Breaking, just that is what! The change of order in the Russian Federation is the pink dream of the states!
              1. +1
                4 February 2015 10: 04
                Quote: GSH-18
                Breaking, just that is what!

                They have twice smashed Russia. In 1917 and in 1991, both there and there, the communists were noted.
                1. +2
                  4 February 2015 11: 30
                  Alexander Romanov
                  “They have already broken Russia twice. In 1917 and in 1991, both there and there communists were noted.” - SO brazenly lying, a habit or a duty?
                  Ignorance or challenge?
              2. +6
                4 February 2015 10: 04
                Quote: GSH-18
                The country is in a stable situation.

                Are you talking about the ruble or something?

                Quote: GSH-18
                The population has work.

                In production, in mechanical engineering?

                Quote: GSH-18
                You can list for a long time

                Let's talk about medicine and education
                1. +1
                  4 February 2015 10: 14
                  Quote: saag
                  Are you talking about the ruble or something?

                  I do not want to get involved in a lengthy discussion. I will say one thing: there is always something to complain about. And one wish: Please consider REALITY in your statements. And not just your own view.
                  1. +8
                    4 February 2015 10: 40
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    Please consider REALITY in your statements.

                    Well, in my opinion, the reality is that the leadership of the Russian Federation has no plan, one call to manage more manually, which is worth it; if there is no plan, there is no development course, then the country will not develop anywhere, but only good wishes.
                    1. -5
                      4 February 2015 10: 50
                      Quote: saag
                      Well, in my opinion the reality is that the leadership of the Russian Federation has no plan, one call to manage more in manual mode

                      States and Eurocolonies are playing against us. Political game is an action in manual mode. What is the plan ?? Maybe even offer to publish it? So that pindocs quickly come up with countermeasures? belay
                      1. +1
                        4 February 2015 12: 37
                        When there is no plan, then it is possible about the manual mode and the states. In manual mode, you can only take bribes so that no one sees. To guide the state and the economy, we need a specific plan that would be sacredly implemented.
                      2. 0
                        4 February 2015 12: 41
                        Quote: varov14
                        When there is no plan, then it is possible about the manual mode and the states. In manual mode, you can only take bribes so that no one sees. To guide the state and the economy, we need a specific plan that would be sacredly implemented.

                        Even if total countermeasures are taken on this plan?
                      3. +1
                        5 February 2015 13: 10
                        Be sure to publish! Only fake, but bullshit wassat ! Then we will deceive everyone! The trouble is that the current government cannot even compose such sad
              3. +7
                4 February 2015 10: 46
                Quote: GSH-18
                RF is far from a banana republic. The population has work. You can list for a long time.
                And you- "There is nothing to break"

                Are you joking? or et. radiation?
                I am interested to hear at least one achievement cap. Russia over the past quarter century.
                1. 0
                  4 February 2015 10: 57
                  Quote: DRA-88
                  Are you joking? or et. radiation?
                  I am interested to hear at least one achievement cap. Russia over the past quarter century

                  You are welcome! As you would like, there is only one (although FULL!) Olympiad in Sochi, and victory at this Olympiad! hi
                  1. nvv
                    nvv
                    +2
                    4 February 2015 11: 12
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    Quote: DRA-88
                    Are you joking? or et. radiation?
                    I am interested to hear at least one achievement cap. Russia over the past quarter century

                    You are welcome! As you would like, there is only one (although FULL!) Olympiad in Sochi, and victory at this Olympiad! hi

                    Are you serious? Seeing at the same time the face and gas, I would understand, and so ..........
                    1. 0
                      4 February 2015 11: 19
                      Quote: nvv
                      Are you serious? Seeing this face and gas, I would understand, and so .....

                      I understood. For you, a priori, there are no Russian achievements. Only Soviet. Well, stay in the past, since you are more comfortable there lol
                      And WE will be engaged in the development of OUR beloved country-RUSSIA hi
                      1. nvv
                        nvv
                        -1
                        4 February 2015 12: 31
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        And WE will be engaged in the development of OUR beloved country-RUSSIA

                        And you happen to be wrong? Not cropped? belay And now they are engaged in Russia. And the people are not at the bows. request
                      2. 0
                        4 February 2015 13: 09
                        Quote: nvv
                        And you happen to be wrong? Not cropped?

                        Do you have few warnings?
                      3. 0
                        4 February 2015 13: 10
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        I understood. For you, a priori, there are no Russian achievements. Only Soviet.

                        And those only under Stalin wassat
                      4. 0
                        4 February 2015 14: 34
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Well, stay in the past, since you are more comfortable there


                        This is for sure, it would be a time machine, collect all the groaning and send - "Back to the USSR". laughing
                      5. 0
                        5 February 2015 13: 13
                        Here you would definitely not need to do this ...
                    2. 0
                      4 February 2015 12: 09
                      It feels like the congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union is on the site today! lol
                      1. +3
                        4 February 2015 12: 23
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        It feels like the congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union is on the site today! lol


                        Congress of the Utopians. laughing
                      2. +2
                        4 February 2015 14: 13
                        Quote: RUSS
                        Utopian Congress

                        We were born to make a fairy tale come true
                      3. 0
                        4 February 2015 12: 42
                        GSH-18
                        It seems that here in your face, the bits of a family of chicks Gaidar and K. have gathered hysterically screaming that the criminalized system of liberal-monetary squalor is impossible, has a different price than the price of a garbage can, in the dustbin of history.
                      4. 0
                        4 February 2015 12: 58
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        GSH-18
                        It seems that here in your face, the bits and pieces of the family of the Gaidar and K. chicks have gathered, hysterically screaming that the system of liberal-monetary squalor criminalized to an impossible degree has some kind of

                        Ltd! Yes, you decided to demonize me in public?
                        Can you then tell everyone how without total bribes in the USSR it was possible to do something? AND? And where did this thieves creep into the power of the Russian Federation ??
                        I will answer you: they plundered, ruined the USSR, and now the little arms greedy for Russia are drawn! But to hell with you and not a revolution! Break off! I’m the first to come to the military registration and enlistment office to break up such horseradish revolutionaries! am
                      5. +1
                        5 February 2015 13: 17
                        Calm down, they won't give you a machine gun. The psychotherapist will impose a ban. The recipe will indicate: "Do not read bourgeois newspapers at night."
                      6. +1
                        4 February 2015 15: 34
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Gaidar's chicks


                        Which of the Gaidars?
                      7. -2
                        4 February 2015 16: 52
                        Yes, do not change, you are from the nest of Yegor Gaidar, there was such an ever-flaming accountant who knows nothing ...
                      8. -1
                        4 February 2015 17: 42
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Yes, do not change, you are from the nest of Yegor Gaidar, there was such an ever-flaming accountant who knows nothing ...


                        You yourself have fallen out of what nest, you are ours, parish? Looks like a nightingale, singing is painfully good.
                      9. +1
                        4 February 2015 18: 50
                        RUSS (2
                        Well, you, using your "brilliant" intellect of a zoological humanoid, started yelling what is usual for narrow-minded people, about some "mangy ones", you need to go to the clinic, my friend, and the sooner the faster, you don't just have a split in your thoughts, when you glorify STALIN, you immediately curse the USSR, killed by Gaidar and Co., led by the drunken Yeltsin, praising all the creatures who served under Yeltsin, carried out the destruction of the country and are still destroying it.
                        NOT understanding that the USSR, this was Historical Russia, in its HISTORICALLY determined limits.

                        Your happiness: that I am not a Jew, otherwise you would have sang songs for moderators for a very long time and worse, in the Prosecutor’s Office, for anti-Semitism and in general, 282, it’s time to apply it to you in full.
                      10. 0
                        4 February 2015 19: 06
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        , you’re not just having a split in thoughts, when you glorify STALIN, right there obscure the USSR,


                        I have never glorified Stalin in any comment, but the Union didn’t use obscenities either, do not la-la uncle !!!
                      11. +1
                        5 February 2015 13: 14
                        Not at all. There are simply more normal people.
                  2. +8
                    4 February 2015 11: 18
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    As you would like, there is only one (although FULL!) Olympiad in Sochi, and victory at this Olympiad!

                    It is not even funny.
                    Achieving the state - the standard of living of the people - education, health, wealth, security.
                    The fact of the matter is that the USSR possessed one indisputable result - security.
                    And now after the events on ukroruin it is necessary to understand that Russia has sank almost continuously over the past 20 years. And they reached the point where the Westerners were not afraid to provoke and really start a war to destroy Russia.

                    And they are preparing us for 1608.
                    This is the achievement of domestic capitalism.
                  3. +4
                    4 February 2015 11: 21
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    As you would like, there is only one (although FULL!) Olympiad in Sochi, and victory at this Olympiad!

                    I don’t even know how to laugh or cry sympathetically
                    1. -2
                      5 February 2015 10: 37
                      Quote: DRA-88
                      I don’t even know how to laugh or cry sympathetically

                      Go to the toilet. Perhaps it’s easier.
                  4. +1
                    5 February 2015 13: 12
                    And in the USSR it was the norm what . Here we are ...
                2. 0
                  4 February 2015 12: 39
                  So probably we are ahead of the rest in the delivery of scrap metal.
              4. +1
                5 February 2015 13: 01
                GSH-18 time to wake up or at least take off pink glasses smile I propose to take an excursion outside the Moscow Ring Road, say, to the border of Moscow Region. There you will be told that the average salary of people living there rarely exceeds 25-30 thousand rubles, they will explain that it costs about 250000 rubles to supply gas to a private village house, and then its payment will be 4,6 rubles today. per cubic meter (1,5 years ago 2.4 rubles), they will show the ruins of former factories and factories, pensioners will set a table for you for 13000 rubles, and then go to beg for a month on the porch of the local church. Satisfied and well-fed farmers will show you irrigated fields overgrown with birches, pines and spruces, and city dwellers all as one will tear themselves away from computers and offer you utility bills with wild numbers. Some who consider themselves local intellectuals will suddenly ask you a series of economic questions. They will probably seem naive to you, but you still cannot answer them. For example, why, when the crisis in the country, VTB24 allocates sponsorship assistance to FC Dynamo in the amount of 70 million euros? Why does the state company Gazprom continue to pay wild money to the Hulk instead of drastically cutting the fee for connecting gas to some grandmother in the hut? Why, if you are the head of a city or a village, then you probably have a mansion, and if you are a milkmaid, then a wreck with a stove, etc.
                Earlier I recommended that you start studying history not according to Zvonidze, but now I will propose to include in the course of study the geography of your native country outside the Moscow Ring Road. And "about how many wonderful creations we have, the spirit prepares enlightenment .."
        2. -2
          4 February 2015 09: 39
          Quote: Nagan
          And they itch again "to the ground, and then." Here are just whether the foundation will withstand, and whether there will be a "then", and even if it will, it will obviously differ from what they mean, and not necessarily for the better.
          1. +7
            4 February 2015 09: 48
            Comrade Nagan actually lives in the abode of democracy and this is a conscious choice
            1. 0
              4 February 2015 10: 16
              Quote: saag
              Comrade Nagan actually lives in the abode of democracy and this is a conscious choice

              and what does it change? I doubt that the opinion of Comrade Nagana has really influenced the world of purebred.
              1. +4
                4 February 2015 10: 42
                Quote: U-47
                I doubt that the opinion of Comrade Nagana has really influenced the world of purebred.

                Well, if Comrade Nagan is a U.S. citizen, then this looks strange, given that when you obtain citizenship you swear allegiance to this very country
                1. -1
                  4 February 2015 11: 07
                  Quote: saag
                  Well, if Comrade Nagan is a U.S. citizen, then it looks weird

                  what exactly is strange? That a citizen of America has a private opinion?
        3. +7
          4 February 2015 09: 41
          Do you not see that what was created in the USSR has now been destroyed "to the ground"? What will be "then" now? How will we continue to achieve the same import substitution in the conditions of destroyed industry and agriculture? What is being done to achieve this? Another state support for banks and big business? Where are we in this line? We, the common people?
          1. +2
            4 February 2015 10: 05
            Quote: Svetlana
            Do you not see that what was created in the USSR has now been destroyed "to the ground"?

            First, what exactly is destroyed?
            And secondly, who destroyed it all?
            1. 11+
              4 February 2015 10: 31
              In my village under the USSR there were 400 cows from local residents, plus a farm. Now there are no more than a dozen and the foundation from the farm. It is not profitable to grow; imported meat is cheaper. And food safety is sideways. There is, however, a positive moment, fights for mowing have stopped.
            2. +5
              4 February 2015 11: 21
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              First, what exactly is destroyed?
              And secondly, who destroyed it all?

              Again, the game of flip ...
              Liberals, future oligarchs, thieves, careerists ruined. just bribe takers ...
              Destroyed Industry, agricultural, education, health, and then on the list of ministries of the USSR
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 11: 29
                Quote: Sergey S.
                Liberals, future oligarchs, thieves, careerists ruined. just bribe takers ...

                Well, yes, but the fact that they are all former members of the CPSU is garbage laughing
                Quote: Sergey S.
                Destroyed Industry, agricultural, education, health, and then on the list of ministries of the USSR

                I remember the 90s, the beginning of the 2000s, it really was a devastation. And for all this I need to say thanks to the liberals (members of the CPSU). Can you put a minus tongue
          2. 0
            4 February 2015 12: 46
            Ordinary people will tighten their belts, patience we do not hold. If the country is lucky, the train will not lie down again, your mother.
        4. +5
          4 February 2015 10: 05
          "to the bottom and then"

          But haven't your democrats destroyed everything Soviet. to the bottom. so there’s nothing left Russian? ..
          1. +3
            4 February 2015 10: 26
            Quote: Gardamir
            But didn’t your democrats destroy everything Soviet

            No, your communists did it. A familiar face wink
            1. +7
              4 February 2015 10: 43
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              No, your communists did it

              And he put the party card on the table at the XNUMXth party conference under the USSR, so he wasn’t a communist even then
            2. +5
              4 February 2015 10: 51
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              No, your communists did it. A familiar face

              count it up to heartburn
              1. +1
                4 February 2015 11: 30
                Quote: DRA-88

                count it up to heartburn

                Yeah, only one destroyed everything, and the second is building.
                1. +2
                  4 February 2015 11: 55
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yeah, only one destroyed everything, and the second is building.

                  Sanya, have to duplicate lol
                  And now, a joke, beard lol
                  A social survey is conducted about life during the crisis.
                  Caught a man coming out of a battered dozen.
                  - Man, are you working?
                  -I'm working ....
                  -What will you do if the government raises goods prices and tariffs by 25%?
                  - I’ll buy Kruzak!
                  -And if at 50%?
                  -Apartment, cottage and mistress
                  -And if, damn it, 100%?
                  -Then a house in the Alps!
                  -And who do you work, man?
                  as a grave digger in a cemetery .....

                  And a question for you right under the "gills": And you gave the oath to whom the USSR, or the Russian Federation? soldier
                  1. +2
                    4 February 2015 13: 07
                    Quote: DRA-88
                    : And who did you take the oath to the USSR, or the Russian Federation?

                    Russia in 1994 hi
                    1. +5
                      4 February 2015 13: 13
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Russia in 1994

                      Only 8 years later than me ... and the impression is like an eternity ... hi
                      1. +3
                        4 February 2015 13: 43
                        Quote: DRA-88
                        and the impression is like an eternity ..

                        Yeah, and do you know how many former communists we had in our unit among the officers, every single one of them served the Motherland, not ideology. And when they transferred me to headquarters, you should have seen how stacks of papers with the USSR coat of arms flew into the fire along with portraits of the hunchback lol
                        Ideologies were different, but everyone has sunk into the summer. You need to live in the future, not in the past.
                        Try to live in the past in your life and lose the present hi
                      2. +1
                        4 February 2015 14: 01
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Try to live in the past in your life and lose the present

                        But there is no future without the past. Do you remember: "The roads that We choose, and what sits inside of Us and makes us choose these roads"
                      3. 0
                        4 February 2015 14: 23
                        Quote: DRA-88
                        But without the past there is no future.

                        Of course, but you can bite your elbows, but the past will not come back.
                        Quote: DRA-88
                        It makes us choose these roads "

                        I chose and the country chose, and this is not communism. There is no Communist leader, at least a little smart, who could offer people something request . Maybe smart people in the Communist Party do not go eh?what
                      4. nvv
                        nvv
                        +3
                        4 February 2015 14: 06
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Try to live in the past in your life and lose the present

                        I feel sorry for you. Without appreciating and not knowing the past, you have no future. Primak.
                      5. +3
                        4 February 2015 14: 19
                        Quote: nvv
                        I feel sorry for you

                        Pity yourself! And look what I quoted from my comment and what I wrote on it laughing
                        Quote: nvv
                        Without appreciating and not knowing the past, you have no future.

                        I don’t have amnesia. Now I live in the present and think about the future. It’s a pleasure to stay hi
                      6. +4
                        4 February 2015 14: 44
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Now I live in the present and think about the future.

                        If the present and future of my country is to collect money for operations for children on federal channels, in paid education, in jabbering about "import substitution", then I am against !!!
                      7. +2
                        4 February 2015 15: 41
                        Quote: DRA-88
                        then I am against !!!

                        And I am against the fact that someone would come under beautiful slogans and destroy the country.
                      8. +1
                        4 February 2015 16: 28
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        And I am against the fact that someone would come under beautiful slogans and destroy the country.

                        Sanya, YOU are in the best !!!!!!!!
                        And someone said the opposite?
                        Before you destroy something, you need to at least build this "something"!
                        But in general I agree)
                      9. nvv
                        nvv
                        +1
                        4 February 2015 15: 18
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        .Happily staying

                        I understand, I do not insist.
                      10. 0
                        4 February 2015 15: 41
                        Quote: nvv
                        I understand, I do not insist.

                        You didn’t understand anything.
                      11. 0
                        4 February 2015 14: 37
                        Quote: nvv
                        Without appreciating and not knowing the past,


                        Appreciate and remember, but appreciate chosen.
                      12. +2
                        4 February 2015 15: 20
                        Quote: RUSS
                        Appreciate and remember, but appreciate chosen.

                        And in appearance a grown man ..... request
                      13. +2
                        4 February 2015 15: 21
                        Yeah, you know how many former communists there were
                        Look how many former communists are in the current government. And you will not believe Putin is still a communist, because he did not leave the ranks of the CPSU.
                      14. +2
                        4 February 2015 15: 43
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        for he did not leave the ranks of the CPSU.

                        And he created United Russia, ahaha, well, how small children are. Everyone picks up Ineta laughing
                      15. nvv
                        nvv
                        +4
                        4 February 2015 16: 27
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        Look how many former communists are in the current government.

                        Understand that in order to ruin something, the simplest thing is that you need to head it. What was done. In 53M this could not be done since the succession of generations was born. There’s Romanov, he’s probably about 40 years old, so he won’t understand what it is. It’s not his fault, it’s his misfortune. The older generation will die out and only Romanov’s opinion will remain on the site.
                      16. 0
                        5 February 2015 06: 38
                        Quote: nvv
                        . The older generation will die out

                        In place of one dead hero, others will come and close ranks.
                        Quote: nvv
                        and only Romanov’s opinion will remain on the site.

                        And I am also a tyrant wassat
            3. +6
              4 February 2015 11: 34
              Alexander Romanov (3
              Do you have a cognitive dissonance that you are so nonsense as you represent here for the truth?

              The gap pattern-Yeltsin put Putin in power, but Yeltsin communist destroyed the country, therefore, the communist Putin is restoring it?
              1. +2
                4 February 2015 13: 07
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                The gap pattern-Yeltsin put Putin in power, but Yeltsin communist destroyed the country, therefore, the communist Putin is restoring it?

                And I judge by business.
                1. +2
                  4 February 2015 16: 56
                  Those. Is Putin a communist or not?
                  You would have figured out your mutually exclusive constructions there, but somehow it turns out ugly, lying to some, falling to others, and all those who have not been in power for 25 years are to blame .. such a strange, liberalized logic.
            4. +2
              4 February 2015 13: 10
              One should know that by the time of Brezhnev, from the Communists, especially in power, there was already one nomenclature. Now they are called liberals, but all the same nomenclature, now, moreover, they don’t even give up their own, they used to surrender, already progress.
          2. -2
            4 February 2015 11: 48
            Quote: Gardamir
            But didn’t your democrats destroy everything Soviet


            Since 1985, the Communists began.
          3. +3
            4 February 2015 13: 14
            Quote: Gardamir
            But haven't your democrats destroyed everything Soviet. to the bottom. so there’s nothing left Russian? ..

            But on this I completely agree with you! Here is a list of those, in my opinion, democrats who destroyed the USSR; Yakovlev A.N., member of the CPSU since 1944, member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Gorbachev M.S., member of the CPSU since 1952, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU, G.A. Arbatov, member of the CPSU since 1943, member of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Shevardnadze E .A., A member of the CPSU since 1946, a member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Yeltsin B.N., a member of the CPSU since 1961, first secretary of the Moscow City Party Committee and this is not the whole list! Are there many non-partisans on this list? I have a question ... how can you fall asleep as a communist and wake up as a democrat ?? ... Communism is a "social system, the basis of production relations to-rogo is public ownership of the means of production, with no division into classes, the opposition between town and country, between mental and physical labor, has been eliminated, and distribution according to needs is carried out. "... again the question is, when were these principles observed in the USSR ???
            1. 0
              4 February 2015 18: 07
              Quote: Serg65
              Here is a list of those, in my opinion, democrats who destroyed the USSR; Yakovlev A.N., member of the CPSU since 1944, member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU
              Somewhere infa came across that Yakovlev was a German spy ... I have nothing to confirm now, i.e. can be perceived as a fake .... but there is something to think about feel
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 18: 54
                DRA-88 (4
                This ass wounded (naturally wounded there) lapid, was recruited in Canada, Gorbachev before, Andropov was well aware of this.
                BUT .. as we see the collapse of the country was being prepared long before 91, no matter how 53, when the corn blockhead rushed to power, from the 20th congress, where the same corn leader of the nomenclature, gave the Red Boyars carte blanche to imitate the work ..
        5. 0
          4 February 2015 15: 43
          To the foundation - this is 1991, 92, 93 and still one foundation ... Then what? People’s gas for 35 or old women’s gas for 200000 in a hut? 13000 pensions to grandfathers and golden parachutes to crooks? Marches pedo .. in and all evil spirits? They would be silent in the tube ...
      2. -6
        4 February 2015 09: 03
        Quote: GSH-18
        And I want to say to all returnees of the USSR 2,0, guys, what happened was gone. We must go forward, and not whine around the USSR.

        I support. Twice into the same river .... Grumbling and nostalgia for the "bright past" will be left to the residents of nursing homes, party workers. Leftist ideas, of course, are tenacious, but they will never become fundamental in Europe. The man in the street is very scared by the passionate "to the core, and then ...". And the idea itself spread. In Europe, the left is very easy to manipulate.
        1. 14+
          4 February 2015 09: 20
          Quote: U-47
          Twice in the same river ...

          What are you saying, what about twice in the same river of capitalism?
          1. -5
            4 February 2015 09: 29
            Quote: saag
            What are you saying, what about twice in the same river of capitalism?

            The choice is not great. There are only THREE options. Monarchy, Democracy, Communism. With the monarchy we fly lol
            And communism has shown its instability in the confrontation with the United States. This confrontation has not gone anywhere and will not go away. And it does not depend on our system. The question is very simple: Or we will continue to fool around with the choice of democracy / communism, jeopardizing the very existence of the state. Or take what we have and will do business Yes
            And if someone really wants shocks, Wellcome that Ukraine! request
            1. +3
              4 February 2015 09: 36
              Quote: GSH-18
              And communism showed

              here is the news, who managed to build where and when ?! belay
              and in Sweden, how do you determine the system?
              1. +1
                4 February 2015 09: 50
                Quote: twviewer
                here is the news, who managed to build where and when ?! belay
                and in Sweden, how do you determine the system?

                Dear, we are not talking about Sweden now. And about the collapse of the USSR! The USA has nothing against Sweden. And against us, yes! You can’t be so naive. Tell me, why do you need to change the system in the Russian Federation ?? Shocks again. AND no guaranteesthat will be better! Why discuss this crazy idea ?? request
                1. +5
                  4 February 2015 10: 02
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  Tell me, why do you need to change the system in the Russian Federation ?? Shocks again. And no guarantees what will be better! Why discuss this crazy idea ??

                  the point is that since there is no change in the oligarchic system, upheavals are inevitable.
                  If the GDP changes this state of affairs in a civilized manner, I am not against it, but it seems unlikely that he will decide to do so, in any case, there are no signs of this at the moment.
                  1. -4
                    4 February 2015 10: 44
                    Quote: twviewer
                    the point is that since the oligarchic system does not change

                    And where did you get this ??? belay
                    It's not about the oligarchs. And how and where their money will work! THIS is the whole question. And not whose money this is. And the work here is serious. To capitalists (no matter our oligarchs or foreign) earned money on the country, it is necessary to create conditions. This is what the government is doing! You cannot order money. Understand this. Otherwise, another crash request
                    1. +3
                      4 February 2015 11: 00
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      It's not about the oligarchs

                      oh? but how is this money earned and earned you no longer interested ??
                      you are a naive person.
                      1. -5
                        4 February 2015 11: 13
                        Quote: twviewer
                        oh? but how is this money earned and earned you no longer interested ??
                        you are a naive person.

                        Not at all! No one has canceled the phases of the initial accumulation of capital during a regime change. The accumulation of capital in the hands of a small number of the country's population, during a regime change, is a necessary prerequisite for launching a new economy. The change of regime is the scrapping of the financial and economic system of the state. Hence all the crises and cataclysms of the transition period.
                      2. +2
                        4 February 2015 11: 32
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        The accumulation of capital in the hands of a small number of the country's population, during a regime change, is a necessary prerequisite for launching a new economy.

                        why didn’t you immediately say that you are a Gaidar-Chubais adherent?
                        stop this business, the people will not forgive you for this.
                      3. -2
                        4 February 2015 11: 54
                        Quote: twviewer
                        why didn’t you immediately say that you are a Gaidar-Chubais adherent?
                        stop this business, the people will not forgive you for this.

                        I am not a Gaidar adept. I had the opportunity to observe this process with my own eyes and feel it on my own skin. The process is standard, and its authors are not a Gaidar with Chubais.
                        I am against the communist regime, since we should not expect anything good from a change of order at this political moment. And to draw yourself into the next revolution, which no one needs, is utter nonsense bordering on high treason!
                      4. 0
                        4 February 2015 12: 09
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        The process is standard, and its authors are not a Gaidar with Chubais.

                        It is stupid to quote the CIA manual on the one hand, while denying the obvious, and to talk about treason on the other.
                        Although if you can explain the GDP what
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        to draw yourself into the next revolution, which no one needs, is utter nonsense bordering on high treason!

                        and you will achieve with him the necessary transformations by God I am ready to forgive you your error.
                      5. 0
                        4 February 2015 12: 17
                        Quote: twviewer
                        and you will achieve with him the necessary transformations by God I am ready to forgive you your error.

                        Come on belay And I already began to grieve that I will never be forgiven you lol
                        And yet, what kind of transformations to carry out in the country, more visible to Putin, and not like you.
                        The statement "the state and the cook can rule" has PRACTICALLY proved to be untenable. But for this I had to pay with the blood of the Russian people.
                      6. -1
                        4 February 2015 12: 32
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        And yet, what kind of transformations to carry out in the country, more visible to Putin, and not like you.

                        you kind of just about democratic Russia said something?
                        or maybe Putin is a prophet?
                        it seems not. He said he drank beer, studied poorly, I regret
                        tie with sectarianism, if you need a strong Russia, it means that the interests of all should be taken into account in it.
                      7. -1
                        4 February 2015 12: 48
                        Quote: twviewer
                        you kind of just about democratic Russia said something?
                        or maybe Putin is a prophet?

                        Making decisions on foreign and domestic policy is the prerogative of the President and the government. For this, their people choose. Take an interest in how the state system of the Russian Federation works, so as not to write funny things here. Sincerely.
                      8. +1
                        4 February 2015 12: 53
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Making decisions

                        I didn't push my name, I just expressed my point of view, but for people like you it's already a crime, do you eat well? Are you afraid to lose? I sympathize. Try to work honestly.
                      9. -1
                        4 February 2015 13: 06
                        Quote: twviewer
                        Try to work honestly

                        I have always worked and continue to work honestly! There is no business of its own. I work for "uncle". I earn my own bread. And that's why I don't need any revolutions! Under what pretext!
                      10. 0
                        4 February 2015 13: 22
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Quote: twviewer
                        Try to work honestly

                        I have always worked and continue to work honestly! There is no business of its own. I work for "uncle". I earn my own bread. And that's why I don't need any revolutions! Under what pretext!

                        good good good
                      11. 0
                        4 February 2015 13: 41
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        I have always worked and continue to work honestly! There is no business of its own. I work for "uncle". I earn my own bread. And that's why I don't need any revolutions! Under what pretext!

                        a good friend of mine left the states. said "I will not be a highly paid slave, and you will not put Russian as a boss (manager)," he teaches now at the university.
                        and in the States there was everything you could wish for: a salary of 10+ thousand dollars, a company apartment, a car, food. You won't understand this
                      12. 0
                        4 February 2015 14: 12
                        Quote: twviewer
                        You do not understand

                        the psychology of a slave does not allow this laughing
                      13. Fox
                        Fox
                        +3
                        4 February 2015 13: 55
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        And just for this I don’t need any revolutions!

                        I’m even afraid to ask what do you mean by the word REVOLUTION ??
                      14. +1
                        4 February 2015 17: 02
                        GSh-18 (4
                        Chubais, the same thing works honestly, honestly, has spread the whole country with vouchers, honestly robbed the country at secured auctions, honestly admitted, they will die out 30 million, well, okay, they did not fit into the market.

                        Chubais and Gaidar, your everything, everything honestly, admit it finally ..
                      15. +2
                        4 February 2015 12: 41
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        And yet, what kind of transformations to carry out in the country, more visible to Putin, and not like you.

                        This is the thesis !!! wassat fool I wish you health, dear!
                        I express my gratitude to the adm. site for the fight against profanity !!!!! good
                      16. Userpic
                        +5
                        4 February 2015 12: 56
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        The statement "the state and the cook can rule" has PRACTICALLY proved to be untenable

                        Now everything is completely clear ...

                        Excuse me generously, but ... whose statement "PRACTICALLY proved to be untenable"?

                        "We are not utopians. We know that any laborer and any cook not capable take control of the state now... On this we agree with the Cadets, and with Breshkovskaya, and with Tsereteli. But we differ from these citizens in that we demand an immediate break with the prejudice that only rich people or officials from rich families are in a position to govern the state, to carry out the everyday work of government. We demand that training in public administration be carried out by class-conscious workers and soldiers and that it should be started immediately, that is, all working people, all the poor should be immediately involved in this training. "
                      17. +2
                        4 February 2015 17: 00
                        GSh-18 (4

                        Well .. again, the clinical unconscious is that when quoting, the citing person doesn’t know a damn thing, but, looking with pride, leads insignificant words ...
                        “We are not utopians. We know that any unskilled worker and any cook is not capable of taking over the government right away. We agree with the cadets, Breshkovskaya, and Tsereteli on this. But we differ from these citizens in that we demand immediate a break with the prejudice that only the rich or officials taken from wealthy families are able to manage the state, to carry out the everyday, day-to-day work of government.We demand that the teaching of the business of public administration be conducted by class-conscious workers and immediately began to attract all the working people, all the poor. "
                        (Article "Will the Bolsheviks Retain State Power?", Enlightenment magazine, October 1917)
                      18. +2
                        4 February 2015 12: 01
                        "No one canceled the phase of the initial accumulation of capital during the change of the regime. The accumulation of capital in the hands of a small number of the country's population, during the period of the change of the regime, is a necessary prerequisite for launching a new economy." ...

                        WHAT an impudent statement that because of a bunch of rabid thieves robbing the country, to the detriment of the overwhelming majority of the population, that same POPULATION SHOULD BE grateful to the Thieves, who, you see, "earned" their capital...
                        Then, in numerous cemeteries, thousands and thousands of young people lie, thrown into the furnace by thieves for the sake of their capital.
                      19. -3
                        4 February 2015 12: 27
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        No one canceled the phase of initial capital accumulation during the change of the regime. The accumulation of capital in the hands of a small number of the country's population during the period of regime change is a necessary prerequisite for launching a new economy. "-AHAAAAHHHAA, what a clumsy JUSTIFICATION for the CRIMINAL emergence of capital from the current oligarchic thief ..

                        This is precisely what the Communists of the late USSR are responsible for.
                        On the other hand, you say that everything is awkward. And how can it be at the moment of transition from one system to another ?? Have you seen anywhere so that everything goes smoothly and calmly? Say thanks to the communist Gorbachev.
                      20. 0
                        4 February 2015 17: 09
                        GSh-18 (4
                        Mdya .. well, you’re a direct masochist of some sort ... you don’t bring it, you’re rebuking the Communists in everything ..

                        Only the question is, why, in this case, "communist" Gaidar, this is your frame, "communist" Yeltsin is yours, "communist
                    2. +2
                      4 February 2015 12: 38
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      You cannot order money

                      This is the meaning of capitalism - that capital rules everything and that money decides everything.
                      The alternative is socialist planning based on scientific principles of optimal multi-criteria management. A well-founded plan and strict responsible control over its implementation. People, not rotten money, should be at the forefront.
                      1. 0
                        4 February 2015 12: 46
                        An alternative is socialist planning based on the scientific principles of optimal multi-criteria management. A sound plan and strict responsible control over its implementation. A man should be at the forefront, ---- And how do you imagine this? Well, there’s a normal person, the feeder is full, the person has been removed, a thief has been placed and hello for 90 years. And an interesting variant is given so far only in the program of the New Communists.
                      2. 0
                        4 February 2015 14: 24
                        Quote: New Communist
                        And the interesting option is given so far only in the program of the New Communists

                        More details, please. And especially on the topic "you don't need a plan, and even more so - control and responsibility"
                      3. 0
                        4 February 2015 14: 59
                        More details, please. And especially on the topic "a plan is not needed, and even more so - control and responsibility" --- And why did you decide that the planned economy under new communism is not needed, it is needed only on new principles. More details on the site new-communist-party.ru. The mistakes of the CPSU were taken into account and corrected.
                    3. 0
                      4 February 2015 13: 40
                      Well, if there was a will, in 25 years it would be possible to create conditions for the oligarchs to work not only for themselves but also for the country. Apparently, our managers are not the same as those who managed to create this thieves' den. Unbridled robbery and capital exports continue as before. Apparently, all the laws are written; how best to cheat and grab.
                2. +1
                  4 February 2015 13: 30
                  It is necessary not to change, but to consciously transform and better from the top. If you wait when the roasted cock pecks, then you can wait for the next shock.
              2. +2
                4 February 2015 10: 06
                Quote: twviewer
                here is the news, who managed to build where and when ?!

                Yeah, the Communists built it for 70 years and eventually collapsed everything. We’re still raking it.
                1. +4
                  4 February 2015 10: 15
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Still raking

                  the base for all current military equipment was created in the USSR, and "we are still raking"
                  1. 0
                    4 February 2015 10: 39
                    Quote: saag
                    the base for all the current military equipment was created precisely in the USSR,

                    We restore the collapsed communists. And the base is primarily people!
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                    2. +2
                      4 February 2015 11: 37
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      We restore the collapsed communists. And the base is primarily people!

                      1. +2
                        4 February 2015 12: 58
                        Chubais is a liar even in quotes. Most people did not want the collapse of the USSR. Most people did not want large factories and enterprises owned by private individuals. Most people did not want bandits to rule the country.
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                      1. +2
                        4 February 2015 11: 50
                        Quote: Normal
                        But would not the kindly respected moderator explain the reason for the removal of two posts?

                        You brother are unreliable request
                    4. +1
                      4 February 2015 12: 40
                      The base is the means of production (tools and objects of labor), and people (workers) are the first productive force, but not the means of production.
                  2. -4
                    4 February 2015 11: 05
                    Quote: saag
                    the base for all current military equipment was created in the USSR, and "we are still raking"

                    And tsarist Russia created the base for the USSR lol
                    Let's get over the crap of this crap.
                    We have the Russian Federation, and we must protect and improve it in the interests of the people! Revolution and shift system DO NOT OFFER!!!
                    1. +2
                      4 February 2015 12: 13
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      Revolution and change of the system DO NOT OFFER !!!

                      Then definitely MORGUE request
                      1. 0
                        5 February 2015 10: 45
                        Quote: DRA-88
                        Then exactly MORG request

                        The master's business. Do not forget to tell your relatives lol
                    2. +1
                      4 February 2015 12: 42
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      improve in the interests of the people

                      The bourgeoisie as a ruling class can "improve" only in its narrowly selfish class interests. You can forget about the people altogether.
                2. +1
                  4 February 2015 10: 26
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yeah, the Communists built it for 70 years and eventually collapsed everything. We’re still raking it.

                  maybe they did, but they didn’t, therefore why there was nothing SHOW nothing laughing
                  1. +1
                    4 February 2015 10: 40
                    Quote: twviewer
                    therefore, why there was nothing to SHOW nothing

                    Got it, but what was it?
                    1. 0
                      4 February 2015 11: 05
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Got it, but what was it?

                      party nomenclature laughing Unfortunately
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                4. +4
                  4 February 2015 11: 35
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yeah, the Communists built it for 70 years and eventually collapsed everything. We’re still raking it.

                  1. +2
                    4 February 2015 12: 18
                    DRA-88
                    As I understand it, A.Romanov doesn’t want to watch such videos, he would have to shout any nonsense, delete comments, yes, it’s very democratic and liberal, but here’s to encroach on everything, call Chubais and K thieves, not impossible, holy ...
                    1. +2
                      4 February 2015 12: 54
                      Quote: vladkavkaz
                      vladkavkaz

                      Simply, Sanya found himself in business wassat
                      He has no ideology request
                  2. +1
                    4 February 2015 13: 00
                    The rope is crying over him ...
            2. +6
              4 February 2015 09: 44
              Quote: GSH-18
              Or take what we have and will do business

              What is the matter, or right now in the Russian Federation under the current leadership, the rapid growth of everything and everything? Or do you like the current domestic politics? And if you change something, how do you imagine it?
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 10: 05
                [quote = saag] What is the matter, or now in the Russian Federation under the current leadership there is still the rapid growth of everything and everything? [/ quote]
                What dimension are you from, dear? lol Against the Russian Federation is now half the world! And WE stand like a rock! states and eurocolonies go hysterical minus.
                [quote = saag] [quote = ГШ-18] Or do you like the current domestic policy? [/ quote]
                The answer is short-impressed!
                But there is still work to do. And this work is underway.
                1. +5
                  4 February 2015 10: 32
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  And WE stand like a rock!

                  Are you talking about the economy?

                  Quote: GSH-18
                  The answer is short-impressed!

                  What is the coincidence of views between you and the prime minister :-)

                  Quote: GSH-18
                  But there is still work to do. And this work is underway.

                  Still would. new national fun "Moscow Chainsaw Massacre of the RF Budget" :-)
                  1. -2
                    4 February 2015 11: 32
                    Quote: saag
                    What is the coincidence of views between you and the prime minister :-)

                    Imagine, and it happens. But my views are more consistent with the views of Vladimir Vladimirovich smile
                    Quote: saag
                    Still would. new national fun "Moscow Chainsaw Massacre of the RF Budget" :-)

                    Are you talking about now? About anti-crisis measures?
                    I don’t even remember that somewhere in the crisis everything was calm and smooth!
                    And not, I remembered, but in the 2008 global crisis, thanks to Putin and Medvedev, everything was exactly the same.
                    Now the situation, however, will be worse.
              2. +4
                4 February 2015 10: 07
                Quote: saag
                What is the matter, or right now in the Russian Federation under the current leadership, the rapid growth of everything and everything?

                Personally, you live now, much better than under the Communists.
                1. +6
                  4 February 2015 10: 33
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Personally, you live now, much better than under the Communists.

                  Under communists, the vast majority of goods were made in the USSR; can the Russian Federation boast of this?
                  1. -4
                    4 February 2015 11: 43
                    Quote: saag
                    Under communists, the vast majority of goods were made in the USSR; can the Russian Federation boast of this?

                    Is that necessary? Why create a self-contained copy of the WORLDWIDE within the country ??? What nonsense ?? fool
                    RF is an integral part of the world! Amer want to isolate us, and you agree with this ?? belay
                    Yes, we should let out the majority of production at home. And this crisis is helping us.
                    Still raking the collapse of the USSR.
                    And we have the results now.
                    1. +1
                      4 February 2015 11: 50
                      The first part of your statement is
                      "Why create a self-sufficient copy of the WHOLE WORLD within the country ??? What nonsense ??
                      RF is an integral part of the world! The Amer wants to isolate us, and you agree with that ?? "
                      The second part of your statement is
                      "ah, we have to produce most of the products at home. And this crisis will help us.
                      We are still raking the collapse of the USSR. "
                      Do you yourself understand what nonsense you are carrying?

                      Not exactly ... demolished to the ground .. liberal maraz .. ki, then they came to understand that no one needs them in the world and the situation AUTHORITIES ORDERING to restore what they destroyed, but at the same time stones to the past, which they themselves destroyed keep throwing with tripled strength ..
                      ARE YOU FAR AWAY WITH SUCH DIVERSITY OF CONSCIOUSNESS ??
                      1. -3
                        4 February 2015 12: 06
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        The second part of your statement is
                        "ah, we have to produce most of the products at home. And this crisis will help us.

                        Once again, carefully read my koment, and everything will grow together. I believe in it good
                      2. +1
                        4 February 2015 12: 46
                        You pull up your pants or put on a hat, but something tells me that you are as inattentive as you are not very smart when you contradict yourself in one comment and insist on your own stupidity.
                2. +1
                  4 February 2015 11: 36
                  “Personally, you are living now, much better than under the communists.” - AN OUTLOOK and in no way confirmed lies in relation to the overwhelming majority of the population.
            3. +4
              4 February 2015 10: 13
              Or take what is
              and what is there? endless reforms. Destruction of education and health. Fruiting homeless people and drug addicts. What is good in today's life? Bread and circuses are the delights of modern bourgeois Russia!
              1. +2
                4 February 2015 10: 43
                Quote: Gardamir
                . Destruction of education and health.

                They destroy, destroy, and cannot destroy anything in any way.
                Quote: Gardamir
                Fruiting homeless people and drug addicts.

                We have homeless people, thumps do not work, what prevents them from quitting drinking and becoming a man?
                There are drug addicts, but there are far fewer of them than in the 90s and early 2000s, when people suffered from hank due to lack of drugs.
                Quote: Gardamir
                What is good in today's life?

                Do not like it, go to another country.
                Quote: Gardamir
                Bread and circuses are the delights of modern bourgeois Russia!

                Everyone chooses what he needs in life. The ways are open.
                1. +1
                  4 February 2015 15: 39
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  . Destruction of education and health.
                  They destroy, destroy, and cannot destroy anything in any way.
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  Fruiting homeless people and drug addicts.
                  We have homeless people, thumps do not work, what prevents them from quitting drinking and becoming a man?
                  There are drug addicts, but there are far fewer of them than in the 90s and early 2000s, when people suffered from hunks for lack of them.
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  What is good in today's life?
                  Do not like it, go to another country.
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  Bread and circuses are the delights of modern bourgeois Russia!
                  Everyone chooses what he needs in life. The ways are open.

                  Alexander, you have already shown that in a democracy, they do not argue with moderators. But about healthcare, God grant you health, so that you do not know for as long as what matters are in healthcare. (I swore an oath at the age of D.F. Ustinov). About the homeless, when a person with a cunning precinct cop squeezed out an apartment and there is no one to turn to, what remains to be done? I do not remember the homeless under the USSR. Your gentlemen, the democrats did not fit into socialism and drive us into the market, but maybe you will go there where they have been able to sell for hundreds of years? Ways to talk? Where to where is everything sold and bought?
            4. +6
              4 February 2015 11: 02
              Quote: GSH-18
              The choice is not great. There are only THREE options. Monarchy, Democracy, Communism.
              Even if you take three options, you can immediately note in them that the same monarchy happens absolute и constitutional, and these are two big differences, how many shades of "democracy", in general, one can argue for a long time. Communism, my friend, we did not have any yet, there was initial socialism, moreover, having its own specifics, both in different countries and under different leaders. World capitalism is already a well-oiled instrument, this is a grand casino, this is a virtuoso world pyramid that can flourish only in the presence of suckers, in the form of colonies, and with a periodic reboot of the war due to the depravity of its essence, it has outlived its own, exhausted itself. It is impossible to endlessly spin the economies of entire countries in the trading of world exchanges and trust the dexterity of currency speculators. You cannot endlessly find new markets, new colonies. It is impossible to pass off the rules of the game for money as economic science, especially when the rules themselves are written in favor of a handful of world bloodsucking ghouls, world usurers, the main masters of such a life. Finally, capitalism is not a monopoly on truth, on mathematics, on the laws of nature, in principle, it does not matter what the system is called, but it is important what the true attitude to man is, what is the main motivation for the development of society. If the main thing as a cult is money and consumerism, such a society is unlikely to have a decent future. Oddly enough, but denying religion, the communists were much closer to the precepts of Christ than the mercantile bourgeoisie. Socialism was young and inexperienced, it was still far from perfect, but the future was behind it.
            5. +2
              4 February 2015 13: 24
              We dismiss communism as utopia, let us dwell on socialism. By the way, it also has no less than three roads, with different variants of ideology. I will not list again banned.
          2. -2
            4 February 2015 09: 47
            Quote: saag
            What are you saying, what about twice in the same river of capitalism?

            caught) But, I note that the history of Russian pre-Soviet capitalism will be shorter. I do not touch on the latest history with neophyte party apparatchiks and other degenerates. Russian neocap is more caricatured than academic.
            1. +4
              4 February 2015 10: 06
              Quote: U-47
              Russian neocap is more caricatured than academic.

              Well, yes, before Soviet capitalism, this is industrial capitalism, not financial
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 12: 48
                feudal-agrarian-industrial (pre-Soviet capitalism in Russia)
                1. 0
                  4 February 2015 13: 35
                  Quote: OldWiser
                  feudal-agrarian-industrial (pre-Soviet capitalism in Russia)

                  well, everything is better than no post-Soviet one.
                  1. +3
                    4 February 2015 14: 30
                    Quote: U-47
                    post-Soviet no.

                    Post-Soviet - a comprador criminal oligarchic, but by no means
                    no
        2. +5
          4 February 2015 09: 25
          Quote: U-47
          Leftist ideas, of course, are tenacious, but they will never become fundamental in Europe. The man in the street is very scared by the passionate "to the core, and then ...". And the idea itself spread. In Europe, the left is very easy to manipulate.

          Here you are completely right.
          Oddly enough, but the left (Communists, Bolsheviks, Stalinists) were not defeated by the bourgeois. Leftist Trotskyists.
          It has become especially clear now.

          But the leftist parties are not communists, and they have nothing to do with communism !!!
        3. -2
          4 February 2015 12: 00
          The common man is very scared by the passionate "to the core, and then ..." --- And why not, Soon it will be, the 3rd world thermonuclear, to the core, but how else, and then questioned fascism, we will build a new world who survived he will become everything.
        4. 0
          4 February 2015 13: 18
          Homosexuals are becoming fundamental in Europe, but this will ruin them. Colored nationalism will ruin liberal homosexuality. Their future is not so bright, if we take into account the nation and not the individual, although the individual can all this on the drum, the ass does not hurt.
      3. +8
        4 February 2015 09: 22
        Quote: GSH-18
        And I want to say to all returnees of the USSR 2,0, guys, what happened was gone. We must go forward, and not whine around the USSR.

        I totally agree.
        No need to repeat the mistakes of the past.
        It is necessary to build a new communist Russia.

        The word communism can be hidden for a while.
        But who is against the state. in which development is carried out on the basis of a scientific forecast, according to approved plans, distribution is made in accordance with the balance of social wealth in the interests of the development of society (children, education, health).
        They are not declared, but in reality there are equal rights of citizens: free medicine and free education - it’s quite possible.
        1. -2
          4 February 2015 09: 43
          Quote: Sergey S.
          I totally agree.
          No need to repeat the mistakes of the past.
          It is necessary to build a new communist Russia.

          It sounds like this: Let's not return the communist system of the USSR, but rather we will build communist Russia. The defining word here is communist. All differences will be in the size of the territory of these states, plus shocks during the change of order. And at the next collapse this territory will become even smaller!
          Enough to deal with henna! The change of order will no longer be!
          Democratic Russia is a powerful state, and I will not allow anyone else to banish it! am
          1. +2
            4 February 2015 09: 52
            Quote: GSH-18
            Democratic Russia is a powerful state, and I will not allow anyone else to banish it!

            I’ve recently removed an illegal fencing from the city roadway, through a comrade general. It really was powerful, but before that the district police officer would have been enough.
          2. +2
            4 February 2015 10: 07
            Quote: GSH-18
            The change of order will no longer be!

            How do you know this, do you look into the future? Tell me then what the ruble exchange rate will be :-)
          3. +5
            4 February 2015 10: 19
            "Democratic Russia is a powerful state, and I will not let anyone else rot it!" - what a loud statement .. if it were based on something stronger than the castles of dreamers, on a general society of consumers and preferably at the expense of others.
          4. +1
            4 February 2015 11: 25
            Quote: GSH-18
            Democratic Russia is a powerful state, and I will not allow anyone else to banish it!

            No contradictions.
            Communism is the process of bringing closer to a true democratic (people's) state.
            And we have a common desire to defend Russia.
            1. 0
              4 February 2015 12: 08
              Quote: Sergey S.
              Communism is a process

              yah? Classical communism is a static formation. Perfection)
        2. +7
          4 February 2015 11: 09
          Quote: Sergey S.
          It is necessary to build a new communist Russia.

        3. +1
          4 February 2015 11: 31
          Quote: Sergey S.
          It is necessary to build a new communist Russia.

        4. +1
          4 February 2015 11: 42
          Give the sausage 2.20 r. and a roll of toilet paper to everyone.
          1. 0
            4 February 2015 12: 13
            Quote: Signaller
            roll of toilet paper to everyone.
          2. Userpic
            +1
            4 February 2015 13: 07
            Quote: Signaller
            Give the sausage 2.20 r.

            80-e:

            Shop -


            Market -
      4. DPZ
        +7
        4 February 2015 09: 22
        USSR 2.0 will not be of course. but why cross out what was good? why reinvent the wheel? intelligent creatures differ from unreasonable ones in that they learn constantly and good skills need to be developed and not thrown into the trash
      5. Userpic
        +9
        4 February 2015 09: 22
        Quote: GSH-18
        USSR did not resist the United States is a fact
        How - did I oversleep the war ?! belay

        Why do we need such repetition-shock ??
        Sorry Yakunin - not recognized.

        We still have enough tasks
        Who exactly?

        We stand against the United States and NATO now, then the model of our state has taken place
        And because of what fuss - can be more detailed? Does the Russian Federation and the USA have any conceptual disagreements?

        and change it to a communist will only
        Moral decent person.
        But thieves, extortionists and scammers, thanks to their greed and rotten moods, the Union did not become - those, yes, with all limbs for capitalism and the current "statesmen" who privatized power.

        We must go forward, and not whine around the USSR.
        laughing I would like to clarify: if you call the rollback from more progressive almost socialism to capitalism a forward movement, then where do you call - into the slave system?
        1. +2
          4 February 2015 09: 50
          Quote: Userpic
          from the more progressive almost socialism

          laughing I'll take it to my quote book. I'll put it next to "a little pregnant with communism"
          1. Userpic
            +3
            4 February 2015 10: 54
            Quote: U-47
            I pull to my quote pad
            You're welcome.

            I recommend reading the first two chapters of the constitution - this is where almost this socialism is described, and in great detail. smile
      6. 10+
        4 February 2015 09: 25
        I’ll tell you a secret the collapse of the union was also a shock for the US leadership, they did not expect such a scenario and were preparing to admit defeat, our leaders of that period completely sold out to the Gobachev, cattle Shevarnadze, all kinds of Kravchuk and so on, these bastards and traitors ...
      7. +2
        4 February 2015 10: 02
        Quote: GSH-18
        . We must go forward, and not whine around the USSR.

        That's for sure +
      8. -1
        4 February 2015 12: 20
        In the USSR it is not necessary, but the model of the present is not wealthy; several% of the population cannot push the rest. It is worthwhile for a real leader to appear with the right moment in ideology and these few% will tear. In Ukraine, equal equals tear, but here God himself ordered.
      9. 0
        4 February 2015 15: 33
        Fashion designers damn ... Model when you show? We have been waiting for 20 years, but you don’t even have a sketch!
    4. 12+
      4 February 2015 08: 49
      Without the unifying force and support that was represented by one of the strongest states at that time - the USSR, these movements were a drop in the bucket. Although - who knows ...

      The USSR is no longer there, but even so it begins to reach people that democracy is not the best that they have come up with.
      1. -1
        4 February 2015 09: 15
        Quote: Karasik
        The USSR is no longer there, but even so it begins to reach people that democracy is not the best that they have come up with.

        The model of a democratic state system needs constant improvement, for which there are corresponding state instruments and public organizations. She is flexible, this is her unconditional plus.
        Different states will have a different model of democracy. Since it is universal and includes a local lifestyle.
        And here you are wrong. Democracy is the best that humanity has come up with (in terms of the state model). But this best needs improvement.
        1. +2
          4 February 2015 09: 56
          Quote: GSH-18
          Model of democratic government

          Democracy is a form of elections and nothing else, but they are trying to present it here as a social system :-)
        2. +5
          4 February 2015 10: 21
          Democracy is the best
          Democracy is the power of a demos. Deputies in modern realities can be considered as deputies, the salary is only 400k, well, those who own something.
          In modern realities (so as not to appear), we are allowed to plebs to throw ballots in ballot boxes ...
        3. +4
          4 February 2015 10: 25
          GSh-18 (
          "The model of a democratic state structure needs constant improvement, for which there are corresponding state instruments and public organizations. It is flexible - this is its absolute advantage." - Oh my, it turns out where the dog has crapped... it turns out in a democratic state, due to its flexibility, not having time to get out of one pile of crap, ugh in the sense of reform, we immediately find ourselves in another pile of crap, reform, which, on the basis of the old pile, with an admixture of the new, tries to mold something better than the material from which everything in a democratic state is molded??

          Well, for a long time, the whole country will shift the legacy of the Yeltsin toilet from one pile to another, hoping that Khottabych will come and turn this stinking pile into .. although a simple but comfortable wooden house ??
          1. -1
            4 February 2015 13: 38
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            in .. although a simple but comfortable wooden house ??

            "But remember, Cinderella, that exactly at midnight he will again turn into
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            fetid bunch
            1. 0
              4 February 2015 17: 19
              The stinking heap, thanks to all this heap of liberal-monetary ignoramuses and direct traitors to the country, hanging around in power corridors, isn’t it?
              And Glazyev directly speaks about it.
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 18: 08
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                The stinking heap, thanks to all this heap of liberal-monetary ignoramuses and direct traitors to the country, hanging around in power corridors, isn’t it?

                well maybe. You know better.
                1. 0
                  4 February 2015 19: 00
                  U-47 (1
                  And for yourself, from the German far, what can you see, Kiel, or keel resting at the bottom of U-bot No. 47?
                  1. 0
                    4 February 2015 19: 20
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    what to see, Kiel

                    Yeah, see. I will be in May, I will put flowers. From you a bouquet too, no?
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    keel resting at the bottom of the U-bot number 47?
                    I don’t understand, what did Gunther please you with?
                    1. 0
                      4 February 2015 19: 24
                      Each one has his own heroes, why do I need an Austrian boat sold to the Germans who fought in World War I, against it or not, but allies, shitty truth, but allies of Russia?
                      If this is that boat, and not at all from the Kriegsmarine.
                      1. +1
                        4 February 2015 19: 37
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Each one has his own heroes, why do I need an Austrian boat sold to the Germans who fought in World War I, against it or not, but allies, shitty truth, but allies of Russia?
                        If this is that boat, and not at all from the Kriegsmarine.

                        And what does the "seven" in Labeu have to do with this nonsense?
                      2. 0
                        4 February 2015 19: 49
                        U-47
                        nakalyalyat article, read, there and talk.
                      3. 0
                        4 February 2015 20: 38
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        play an article

                        amateur compilers, and so a dime a dozen.
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        we'll talk there.

                        sorry, but no desire.
                      4. -1
                        4 February 2015 20: 40
                        U-47 (1)
                        Well, if you are an amateur, then there is nothing to talk about.
                      5. +1
                        4 February 2015 20: 44
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Well, if you are an amateur

                        yes, of course, but at least I don’t puff out my cheeks and do not shower my opponent with hastily copied quotes from the network, believing myself to be completely dedicated. Goodbye. It is pointless.
                      6. 0
                        4 February 2015 21: 28
                        Go ahead. Nobody holds it.
      2. Userpic
        +8
        4 February 2015 09: 26
        Quote: Karasik
        The USSR is no longer there, but even so it begins to reach people that democracy is not the best that they have come up with.
    5. +4
      4 February 2015 09: 34
      Quote: skylare
      these movements are a drop in the ocean

      A charismatic leader, a clear program of action, the right timing - that's all that's needed for the people, who have suffered from liberal-democratic bullying, to instantly turn into an ocean in which the ferries of Anglo-Saxon paradigms will sink.
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    7. -6
      4 February 2015 10: 53
      The author spilled his thoughts over the table. Sheer nonsense. What is the idea of ​​communism, the whole world has long abandoned this utopia, and no one even has such a thought to destroy their country for the sake of some "ideas of communism". So the whole world, this bunch of idiots, do not want to build communism, and Russia should regularly step on the rake. In Europe and in the world there are many socialist parties, but none of them have plans to build communism. Their main task is to support gays and lesbians and to lobby for someone's interests.
      And yet, Russia (USSR) was a great power and will remain so regardless of whether tsarism, socialism or capitalism. Russia was great under the tsars, was under the communists, and will be under the democrats.
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    9. 0
      4 February 2015 11: 31
      What communism, on earth 7 billion, equality in poverty, whom will it attract? Socialism is the last of the possible formations, built on the principles of justice - from each according to ability, to each according to work, everything is fair and clear. You can still strive for this, the whole question is headed by what ideology, here there are a number of paths, the main thing is not to miss. These are both communist and fascist ideas, in the interpretation of the Italians and nationalist in the interpretation of the Russians, we must not say the truth with our own interpretation, but we clearly don’t smell National Socialism, we are a spiritual nation, philanthropists.
    10. 0
      4 February 2015 12: 30
      Communism in the 21st century - it does not sound absurd, but proudly and openly

      That sounds very dumb!
      Again calls for bespontovye revolutions ?!
      1. +1
        4 February 2015 12: 56
        bespontovym
        And what in nature is our show off. Well, start yelling glory to the liberals.
        1. -1
          4 February 2015 22: 25
          Quote: Gardamir
          Well, start yelling glory to the liberals.

          Shouting and jumping is more suitable for you. Do not know how? Velcom that Kiev.
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    12. +4
      4 February 2015 13: 27
      Communism is when from each according to his ability, and to each according to his need. So guess what each will be more? laughing Good upotopic dream. But without a dream in any way. hi
      And those who think that there was communism in the USSR, either did not live there, or were members of the Central Committee of the CPSU. The last thing we built was "socialism with a human face" (read the materials of the CPSU congresses). And what was socialism like before the 27th Congress of the CPSU (1985)?
      The party said - communism is already on the horizon. And the people understood that the horizon is such a line that you can never reach laughing But she was, this line.
      1. -1
        5 February 2015 00: 07
        New communism is a real social and economic system based on the principle of separation of duties and opportunities. The main postulate: Robots and highly automated systems under the control of Artificial Intelligence should create consumer values ​​in the necessary and sufficient volume, and Russian citizens consume them within the framework of reasonable needs, as well as cultivate high spiritual, moral, ethical and cultural values, changing the state paradigm (state -Best friend, citizen.)
        New communist ideology considers common sense, personal freedom, and mutual social responsibility of the state and the individual as the dominant concepts.
        Since such concepts as justice, equality, fraternity have extremely vague outlines and are strictly individual, they should be sought only through the concept of common sense .---------------- and this definition is what you don’t like.
        1. +1
          5 February 2015 10: 53
          Quote: New Communist
          New Communism - Real Public

          Yes, do not have your presentations here! Your neo-communism, the same communism, the same eggs from the side!
    13. -2
      4 February 2015 13: 44
      I want to advise the returnees of the USSR 2,0, this time train in the states. If everything goes well, then it will be possible to think and about the Russian Federation! And so, no one will throw on your communist chatter in Russia. After the 90s it's 100%!
      Sincerely. Go ahead.
    14. +1
      4 February 2015 19: 54
      In the photo, the vandals on the wall were written by the RKSM (b) apparently the Russian Communist Union of Bolshevik Youth, another crap.
      1. -2
        4 February 2015 20: 00
        RUSS (2)
        And to beat eggs to the cobblestones of Red Square is so democratic ...
        And on the drawbridge in Leningrad, to draw a huge penis, this is so remarkable for the unfinished.
        Yours is all in these deeds.
        NOTHING you can do useful.
        1. -2
          5 February 2015 11: 00
          Quote: vladkavkaz
          NOTHING you can do useful.

          Yeah! We are VERY far from the genocide of the Russian people and the collapse of the country! Thank God! Yes
  2. 16+
    4 February 2015 07: 50
    Why not, they still haven’t come up with anything better, Aurora is being docked :-)
    1. +6
      4 February 2015 08: 13
      Quote: saag
      Why not, they still haven’t come up with anything better, Aurora is being docked :-)

      Modern mankind has reached or is brought to such a bestial state that it is no longer able to create a communist society (present). Maybe the next civilization will succeed, although unlikely.
      1. Userpic
        +7
        4 February 2015 09: 28
        Quote: larand
        communist society (present) it is no longer able to create

        Not yet capable.
      2. +3
        4 February 2015 09: 29
        Quote: larand
        Modern mankind has reached or is brought to such a bestial state that it is no longer able to create a communist society (present). Maybe the next civilization will succeed, although unlikely.

        Very pessimistic.
        Although I agree in some ways.
        One thing inspires little optimism - in the world, changes are happening so fast that maybe people will turn towards a just society and productive labor, tired of endless speculation on any occasion and grandiose experiences without cause, simply by the results of football matches ...
      3. -1
        4 February 2015 13: 00
        the new communists will create. New communism will triumph by 2065, but for now, you have to pay the bills.
        1. 0
          4 February 2015 13: 25
          Quote: New Communist
          New Communism will triumph by 2065


          Intrigued by the date of 2065, why then?
          1. -1
            4 February 2015 13: 57
            Faster than that, consider yourself 2020-2030 3rd world thermonuclear, then from 2025 to 2065 a system of questioned fascism, then new communism. These are the laws of the development of human civilization. For example, the Russian Empire, civil war, socialism, oligarchic capitalism could not be otherwise.
            1. 0
              4 February 2015 14: 41
              Quote: New Communist
              Faster than that, consider yourself 2020-2030 3rd world thermonuclear, then from 2025 to 2065 a system of questioned fascism, then new communism


              You should write fiction for secondary school age, and not sit on the forums laughing
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 15: 02
                love - And you are so confident in the peacefulness of capitalism that you consider all alternative opinions to be fantastic. In Donetsk, they hit with a point, before a couple of years ago it seemed fantastic, but now it's come true.
    2. FID
      +7
      4 February 2015 09: 01
      Quote: saag
      Aurora is being docked :-)

      ... and the 17th year is just around the corner.
      1. +1
        4 February 2015 10: 21
        Quote: SSI
        Quote: saag
        Aurora is being docked :-)

        ... and the 17th year is just around the corner.

        will there be a peace in Brest? With whom?
        1. -4
          4 February 2015 13: 27
          Quote: U-47
          will there be a peace in Brest? With whom?


          Once the big ones have already signed the shameful world, they will sign for their ideas and more.
          1. Fox
            Fox
            +3
            4 February 2015 14: 07
            Quote: RUSS
            Once bigЕвИchki already signed a shameful world

            laughing how funny you are!, for comparison, the shameful peace was concluded in 1905 !!, after the same shameful war!
            1. -2
              4 February 2015 14: 45
              Quote: Kettu
              Quote: RUSS
              Once bigЕвИchki already signed a shameful world

              laughing how funny you are!, for comparison, the shameful peace was concluded in 1905 !!, after the same shameful war!


              Perhaps in 1905, the peace was signed, too, shameful, but the "Shameful Peace" entered into history precisely signed in 1918, when the Bolsheviks signed the peace and agreed that they had lost to the losing side, this precedent and precedent were made by the traitorous Bolsheviks.
              1. +3
                4 February 2015 14: 53
                Quote: RUSS
                The "shameful peace" entered precisely signed in 1918, when the Bolsheviks signed the peace and agreed that they had lost to the losing side, this precedent and precedent were made by the traitorous Bolsheviks.

                Ned. You are in the set-off.
                You forget that in 1918 Soviet Russia was already at war with the "Entente" in the north, north-west, Far East and south. if you are too lazy to drive to the library, google help! hi
                1. -2
                  4 February 2015 15: 43
                  Quote: DRA-88
                  Do you forget that in 1918 Soviet Russia was already at war with the "Entente" in the north, north-west


                  Are you not a friend of the Pole Shetina? Why distort historical facts? The Brest peace is signed with Germany.
                  And less "Google", it was necessary to skip lessons at school less, maybe they did not get confused in the obvious.
                  1. +2
                    4 February 2015 16: 48
                    Quote: RUSS
                    Why distort historical facts? The Brest peace is signed with Germany.

                    Pralna, but how to fight on a thousand fronts?
                    Quote: RUSS
                    it was necessary to skip classes less at school, maybe they were not confused in the obvious.

                    Never late to learn good which I sincerely wish you hi
                    1. -3
                      4 February 2015 17: 05
                      Quote: DRA-88
                      DRA-88 (4) Today, 16:48 ↑ New
                      Quote: RUSS
                      Why distort historical facts? The Brest peace is signed with Germany.
                      Pralna, but how to fight on a thousand fronts?


                      Well, of course you will find a thousand excuses for the shameful world and write off all the miscalculations and dark pages of Bolshevism, so the discussion with you is not productive and .... not interesting. hi
                      1. +1
                        4 February 2015 17: 12
                        Quote: RUSS
                        therefore, a discussion with you is not productive and .... not interesting.

                        ordinary zaputinsky leap to the side Yes
                        your "helmsman" also does not discuss before the elections what
                        As soon as you start talking with you from class positions, and having historical arguments and a Marxist-Leninist theory, you are immediately blown away crying
                        Because the TRUTH is not for you !!!!
                        And the Proletarian Truth, of course, cannot suit the bourgeoisie and their minions Yes
                  2. +2
                    4 February 2015 19: 09
                    RUSS (2
                    Oops .. everything is more fabulous and more fabulous, your knowledge in the History of your own country looks all the more wonderful and wonderful.

                    Apparently, would you wish that the same world were not concluded and all of Russia, up to the line of Arkhangelsk-Astrakhan, smoothly so, back in 1918, became at least a German protectorate?
                    Fortunately, for example, the Don Ataman, later the lackey of the Nazi Krasnov, was not averse to organizing a Cossack republic in the Don under the auspices of Germany.
                    Mdya .. everything is more wonderful and wonderful .. people write who in history, like me in the knowledge of cosmobiology of another Galaxy ...
                  3. +1
                    4 February 2015 19: 14
                    In 1917, the Bolsheviks were behind the socialist choice of Russia, demonstrated by the results of the elections to the Constituent Assembly (more than 80% of the votes in the socialist parties). Under these conditions, the struggle with the Soviet government inevitably turned into a struggle against socialist ideas, which at the end of 1917 were predominant in the peasant and working environment. The white movement, which aimed to overthrow the Bolsheviks, could not establish itself even in those territories where it had a certain influence. For one proponent of vigorous action, there were several dozen armed opponents, hundreds and thousands of self-avoiding conflict in which their economic and social interests were not affected.
                    The results of elections to the Constituent Assembly are characteristic, according to which the Bolsheviks received about 22,5% of the vote, representatives of other socialist parties 60,5% (of which more than 55% of the Social Revolutionaries, including the Left Socialist Revolutionaries, about 6%), and representatives of various bourgeois and national parties less than 17% of the vote.
                    A six-fold socialist advantage over other political forces sharply reduced the possibility of active resistance to the new regime.
                    http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dic_diplomatic/241/БРЕСТ
                    In general, read and do not talk nonsense, "experts" about what you scratch with tongues, not understanding the essence of the issue at all ..
              2. Fox
                Fox
                +1
                4 February 2015 15: 28
                Quote: RUSS
                Perhaps in 1905 the world was signed too shameful

                Yes, not possible, but a shameful war and the same is the world! True, for some reason we remember it (the war) as the feat of the "Varyag" laughing strange yes!
                Quote: RUSS
                but it was signed in 1918 that entered the history of the "Shameful World"

                Where did he go ?, maybe he went into your personal story !, in mine he is in last place (in shame).
                Quote: RUSS
                when the Bolsheviks signed the world and agreed that they lost to the losing side,

                I am by no means a guru in the field of history, but it seemed to me that the world was concluded in March 1918 and the war ended in November 1918, of course I could be wrong!
                Quote: RUSS
                this precedent and precedent managed to commit traitors, the Bolsheviks.

                Does it all depend on who they betrayed?
      2. -2
        4 February 2015 13: 26
        Quote: SSI
        Quote: saag
        Aurora is being docked :-)

        ... and the 17th year is just around the corner.


        I will be the first to go out against the "crane maidan". angry
        1. 0
          4 February 2015 14: 03
          Quote: RUSS
          I will be the first to come out against the "red Maidan".

          Wait, friend, while theorists have gotten notes on Marxism-Leninism and are rubbing something into each other. Now the statistics of Soviet milk yield will be raised. This part is debatable and romantic. Not dangerous. On the Maidan is not yet called. They have illusions so far about a peaceful coup.
          1. +1
            4 February 2015 16: 10
            Quote: U-47
            Wait, friend, while theorists have gotten notes on Marxism-Leninism and are rubbing something into each other.

            Oops ... zaputintsy crawl out of the dollar trenches belay
            We twist, mutim, balamutim to rule ....... wassat
            1. +2
              4 February 2015 16: 50
              Quote: DRA-88
              zaputintsy crawl out of the dollar trenches

              well, trenches are not trenches ....
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 16: 58
                Quote: U-47
                well, trenches are not trenches ....

                neighing laughing it turned out that among the "putinoids" there are also People drinks
                1. +2
                  4 February 2015 17: 00
                  Quote: DRA-88
                  it turned out that among the "putinoids" there are also People

                  What are you ... I’ve entered ... Presented same ...
                  1. +1
                    4 February 2015 17: 24
                    Quote: U-47
                    What are you ... I’ve entered ... Presented same ...

                    This was where we had to start fellow
                    Your player in a foreign team, this is crucial !!!!! bully
                    1. +1
                      4 February 2015 17: 31
                      Quote: DRA-88
                      This is important !!!!!

                      - Your credo?
                      - Is always...
                      ©
                2. +1
                  4 February 2015 17: 35
                  Quote: DRA-88
                  neighing

                  and I feel sorry for the ruble ..
        2. Fox
          Fox
          +3
          4 February 2015 14: 10
          Quote: RUSS
          I will be the first to go out against the "crane maidan".

          Yes when we come to power Yes there aren’t enough psychiatric hospitals for you all! You need to think something else what
          1. 0
            4 February 2015 14: 47
            Quote: Kettu
            Yes, when we come to power there won't be enough mental hospitals for all of you! We need to think of something else


            Dreams, dreams ..... dreaming is not bad Sanya laughing
            1. Fox
              Fox
              +1
              4 February 2015 15: 30
              Quote: RUSS
              Dreams, dreams ..... dreaming is not bad Sanya

              Probably if people did not dream, then we would not have flown into space, who knows!
              1. +1
                4 February 2015 16: 24
                Quote: Kettu
                Quote: RUSS
                Dreams, dreams ..... dreaming is not bad Sanya

                Probably if people did not dream, then we would not have flown into space, who knows!


                It's one thing to dream about flying into space, it's another thing to dream about how you dream about mental hospitals ...
                1. Fox
                  Fox
                  +1
                  4 February 2015 16: 45
                  Quote: RUSS
                  It's one thing to dream about flying into space, it's another thing to dream about how you dream about mental hospitals ...

                  belay I don’t understand what you mean !, probably this is the case when the expression "people are not judged by themselves" is appropriate.
                  1. -1
                    4 February 2015 17: 08
                    Quote: Kettu

                    I don’t understand what you mean !, probably this is the case when the expression "people are not judged by themselves" is appropriate.


                    Do not "turn on the fool", you yourself wrote to me that- "
                    Quote: Kettu
                    Yes, when we come to power there won't be enough mental hospitals for all of you! We need to think of something else


                    Dream, dream, Sasha, about a mental hospital, but look yourself there.
                    1. Fox
                      Fox
                      +2
                      4 February 2015 17: 33
                      Quote: RUSS
                      Do not "turn on the fool", you yourself wrote to me that- "

                      I repeat for those who in the tank "don't judge people by themselves", you think too low in addition to misinterpreting my words !, on the way to any dream, it is inevitable to overcome various difficulties, so consider "psychiatric hospitals" (and the problem is not in them but as always in psychos) this kind of obstacle !, and if you thought that I had a dream to come to power, or it is even better to come to power in order to put everyone in psychiatric hospitals, then it is already clear that they will write down the second item in your medical history laughing
                      But whatever you say, people like you are also useful for, albeit artificial, but still, raising self-esteem hi
                      1. 0
                        4 February 2015 19: 13
                        Quote: Kettu
                        I repeat for those who are in the tank, "they don't judge people by themselves," you think too low, besides the fact that you misinterpret my words!


                        Do you want to leave your own words? Everything doesn’t work out, don’t sparrow the word, well, don’t worry about anything, it happens, you say, and then you regret with whom it doesn’t happen. laughing
                      2. Fox
                        Fox
                        +2
                        4 February 2015 19: 27
                        Quote: RUSS
                        Do you want to leave your own words? Everything doesn’t work out, don’t sparrow the word, well, don’t worry about anything, it happens, you say, and then you regret with whom it doesn’t happen.

                        laughing laughing I can not laughing well, what can you do? You won, I won you’ve even put a plus !, leave me alone laughing
                      3. 0
                        4 February 2015 20: 01
                        Quote: Kettu
                        I can't, what can I do with you? You won. I even gave you a plus! Just leave me alone.



                        I’m also a plus, I don’t like to be in debt, I lagged behind you laughing
          2. +1
            4 February 2015 16: 05
            Quote: Kettu
            Yes, when we come to power there won't be enough mental hospitals for all of you! We need to think of something else

            This is a medal for RUSS
            1. -2
              4 February 2015 17: 12
              Quote: DRA-88
              Quote: Kettu
              Yes, when we come to power there won't be enough mental hospitals for all of you! We need to think of something else

              This is a medal for RUSS


              Have you been discharged for a long time? I don’t need your badge. Keep it for yourself, maybe you will get some benefits for yourself or subsidies, for the mentally ill, it’s like benefits.

              PS Damn! Spring is coming soon, exacerbation, do not forget to drink the medicine, okay?
              I will worry about you. hi
              1. +3
                4 February 2015 17: 42
                Quote: RUSS
                I will worry about you.

                better money good We will transfer to New Russia good
                Quote: RUSS
                Have you been discharged for a long time? I don’t need your badge. Keep it for yourself. Maybe you can break some benefits for yourself or subsidies.

                And I already have, deserved righteous military labors! And it is written that the USSR is clearly there !!!
                and the overbearing handouts are yours !!!
                1. -1
                  4 February 2015 19: 17
                  Quote: DRA-88
                  and power handouts-- it's yours!


                  Why on earth, mine? I work myself to earn money, without handouts, but you probably have benefits if there are rewards?
                  1. +1
                    4 February 2015 22: 30
                    Quote: RUSS
                    without handouts, and you probably have benefits if there are rewards?

                    Yeah, my wife is tired of sewing her pockets, so that "benefits" what add up
              2. Fox
                Fox
                0
                4 February 2015 17: 43
                Quote: RUSS
                Have you been discharged for a long time?

                Correctly "d.u.rak himself" so them laughing why too original laughing
                1. 0
                  4 February 2015 19: 18
                  Quote: Kettu
                  Quote: RUSS
                  Have you been discharged for a long time?

                  Correctly "d.u.rak himself" so them laughing why too original laughing


                  Is there a gag in every barrel?
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        4. +2
          4 February 2015 15: 05
          Quote: RUSS
          I will be the first to go out against the "crane maidan".

          Where ?????
          1. -1
            4 February 2015 16: 25
            Quote: DRA-88
            Where ?????


            Crest ???
            1. +1
              4 February 2015 16: 30
              Quote: RUSS
              Crest ???

              noooooooooooooooo laughing
              here around RUSSIAN good even with a quality mark from perfume soldier
              1. -1
                4 February 2015 19: 19
                Quote: DRA-88
                there is RUSSIAN all around, even with a quality mark from perfume


                Well, what do you write on mov?
                1. +2
                  4 February 2015 22: 26
                  Quote: RUSS
                  Well, what do you write on mov?

                  In my platoon 4 real bulbash served, from them the tops and grabbed, "tudoy", "court", "head" laughing
        5. +2
          4 February 2015 17: 22
          If you live on the liberal coven of capitalist opportunists and their servants.
        6. -3
          4 February 2015 20: 03
          Quote: RUSS
          I will be the first to go out against the "crane maidan".


          Here is the first minus, the first red maydanuty.
          1. +1
            4 February 2015 20: 58
            get it and settle down, minus it is yes, red, rejoice ...
            1. -3
              4 February 2015 21: 38
              Quote: vladkavkaz
              get and calm down


              Why? Maybe you should buy a buy? And I forgot, you are a watchman-guard today for days?
              1. +1
                4 February 2015 22: 44
                Hamish undergrowth?
                1. -1
                  5 February 2015 12: 32
                  Quote: vladkavkaz
                  Hamish undergrowth?


                  And that the guard is already rudeness or an insult?
          2. -1
            4 February 2015 21: 52
            Quote: RUSS

            Here is the first minus, the first red maydanuty.

            Here is another almond negative
    3. +5
      4 February 2015 09: 13
      Quote: saag
      Why not, they still haven’t come up with anything better

      But you must agree that the very concept of communism is utopian in its own way, but SOCIALISM, under which we lived, and lived quite successfully and not badly (as it turns out looking back at the past), is a THING...
      1. +7
        4 February 2015 09: 18
        Quote: Corsair
        But you must admit, the very concept of communism is utopian in its own way, but SOCIALISM under which we lived and lived quite successfully and not badly (as it turns out with an eye to the past), THIS IS ...

        I agree, but communism should be a global goal, a challenge, then the achievements will be corresponding
        1. +3
          4 February 2015 09: 42
          Quote: saag
          I agree, but communism should be a global goal, a challenge, then the achievements will be corresponding

          I agree with you that communism as a GOAL, GUIDANCE in the construction of justice societies can well be used. But to achieve this goal (in the form of whom it was proposed) is not possible ...
      2. +3
        4 February 2015 09: 28
        Well, why is it utopian, today we are watching how people believe in extrasensors, sorcerers, guessing, and at the same time we say this normally ...
        The fact of the matter is that it is precisely communism, with modern calculating powers, that is the ponice of modern problems ...
        1. 0
          4 February 2015 13: 42
          Quote: Isk1984
          The fact of the matter is that it is precisely communism, with modern calculating powers, that is the ponice of modern problems ...

          Well, what a holiday it is! I'll steal it into the quote box. You guys are just gushing today. I can’t stop looking at the sharpness of thought:
          Quote: Isk1984
          it is precisely communism, with modern computing powers, that is the ponacea for contemporary problems ...

          Thank you friend. I will send an acquaintance to an IT specialist.
      3. Userpic
        +6
        4 February 2015 10: 26
        Quote: Corsair
        the very concept of communism is utopian in its own way, but SOCIALISM, under which we lived, and lived quite successfully and not badly (as it turns out looking back at the past), is a THING...
        Let's put dots over i, dots over e and dashes over th laughing

        Being determines consciousness. In the process of improving production relations, and, as a result, increasing the quality and quantity of goods, human life as a whole became more and more valuable, society was constantly humanized.

        Society has evolved to socialism - a formation, the basic principle of which is "from each according to his ability to each according to his work", or, more simply, as you drown, you burst.
        In such a society, all professions are needed and important (which is objective).
        In such a society, only honest work is possible with appropriate payment for time + quality + complexity / severity (the profit created by the whole society in one form or another is distributed to the whole society).
        In such a society, the exploitation of man by man is prohibited (hence the prohibition of private ownership of the means of production)

        With the development of socialism, with the development of production relations, society receives more and more benefits, over time there comes a time when society is able to satisfy all its needs and many wishes, and automation of production allows us to reduce working time - this is the beginning of communism (from each according to his ability to each according to his needs).
        But in parallel with the development of production relations, culture develops (in the broad sense) and society becomes even more humanized - to such an extent that at some point for most of it, the problems of any stranger who are not carriers of negative traits begin to be perceived as problems of a friend, friend, relative, friend. Such a change in the psychology of society will mean a transition to communism - communism is a qualitative concept.
        1. +2
          4 February 2015 13: 08
          A wonderful picture! Only there are unresolved issues - relations with the capitalist environment; the problem of artificial intelligence (how Asimov's laws of robotics are consistent with anthropic ideology); and ecology, which in a broad sense can be understood as the fundamental limitation of natural resources, which is a fundamental barrier to the unlimited growth of the productive forces of humanity (material and spiritual). I say this because "free development of all" has an upper limit.
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            +3
            4 February 2015 14: 19
            Quote: OldWiser
            there are unresolved issues - the relationship with the capitalist environment
            Did I write about one specific country? smile

            “... overthrow the power of the bourgeoisie and put the power of the proletariat in one
            "The victory of the proletariat in the country does not yet mean ensuring the complete victory of socialism. Having consolidated its power and led the peasantry, the proletariat of the victorious country can and must build a socialist society. But does this mean that it will thereby achieve the complete, final victory of socialism, i.e. does this mean that it can, with the efforts of just one country, finally consolidate socialism and fully guarantee the country from intervention, and therefore from restoration? No, it does not. For this, the victory of the revolution in at least several countries is necessary. Therefore, the development and support of the revolution in other countries is an essential task of the victorious revolution. Therefore, the revolution of the victorious country must consider itself not as a self-sufficient entity, but as a support, as a means to accelerate the victory of the proletariat in other countries." (I. Stalin "On the Foundations of Leninism" v.6 p.107.)

            "... our revolution is part of the world revolution, the base and instrument of the world revolutionary movement." (I. Stalin "Plenum of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks on July 4-12, 1928" v.11 p. 151.)

            "... the victory of socialism in one country is not an end in itself, but a means for the development and support of the revolution in other countries" (I. Stalin "Questions and Answers" v.7 p.168)

            This I mean that the "free development of all" has an upper limit.
            Only if development is either erratic or occurs only on one planet.

    4. +2
      4 February 2015 09: 36
      Quote: saag
      Aurora is being docked :-)

      We will prepare for the return.
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  3. -27
    4 February 2015 07: 52
    Somewhere I read a different assessment of the activities of the Communists — the communists came to our country as invaders, behaved in it like invaders, and fled like fair thieves by robbing the Russian people and destroying the state!
    1. 24+
      4 February 2015 08: 08
      You, dear sir, forgot to add that Stalin was a bloody dictator, and despite his actions, the enslaved people of the USSR won the war against almost all of Europe. And by the way, at that time it could be called the whole world. (For people who do not understand where sarcasm is and where it is not - THIS IS SARCASM)
      1. +6
        4 February 2015 10: 03
        Quote: kingnothing
        Somewhere I read a different assessment of the activities of the Communists - the communists came to our country as invaders, behaved in it like invaders

        You, dear, forgot to add that Stalin was a bloody dictator
    2. 10+
      4 February 2015 08: 18
      Dear Sergey! You must be able to give your assessments, and not "I read somewhere another assessment of the activities of commies ...". For this it is necessary to read a lot, including primary sources, to evaluate the practice in accordance with the conditions in which socialism was built. Then there will be no such "profound" conclusions: "the communists came to our country as invaders, behaved in it as occupiers, and fled like fairground thieves, robbing the Russian people and destroying the state!" Such conclusions are so absurd that it is not worth commenting on them. There is such a concept - pedagogy. This is when they pick up superficial knowledge and believe that everyone knows.
      1. -10
        4 February 2015 08: 25
        "Gold of the Party", I. Bunich, Epigraph ...
        So my conclusions are not here, the comment is nothing but an appraisal judgment to which I have the right by virtue of the 12.12.93 Constitution, but an appraisal judgment from you (chastity) is nothing more than an insult.
        1. +1
          4 February 2015 09: 59
          Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
          "Gold of the Party", I. Bunich, Epigraph ...
          So my conclusions are not here, the comment is nothing but an appraisal judgment to which I have the right by virtue of the 12.12.93 Constitution, but an appraisal judgment from you (chastity) is nothing more than an insult.

          Your conclusions were to select a quote and throw into the discussion an openly abominable attitude towards our past, people, state ...
          The communists did not "come", did not come with aliens.
          Absolutely the majority of communists are the best people of our people.

          Ask I. Bunich where he and his ancestors were in 1941. I’m not trying to offend him. Just according to the laws of the genre and mathematics, I suppose that not everyone is at the forefront, not everyone has raised people with hostility against tanks. Not everyone ran through the woods, piling initiative partisan units ...
          And not everyone remained in the besieged Leningrad ...

          So I would choose another quote about the Communists:
          "Life must be lived so that it would not be excruciatingly painful for the years spent aimlessly."
          This is from the novel How the Steel Was Tempered, written in 1932-1934 by the great man, Soviet writer Nikolai Alekseevich Ostrovsky (1904-1936).
        2. 0
          4 February 2015 10: 29
          If a person is talking blatant nonsense, and his nose is poked into his delusions, even if he persists in citing some chatterbox Bunich as an argument, then where is the insult?
          A smart person will understand that a stupid person immediately begins to be offended, instead of thinking about why his opinion is perceived as just stupidity ...
    3. 0
      4 February 2015 09: 47
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      Somewhere I read a different assessment of the activities of the communists - the communists came to our country as invaders, behaved in it like invaders,

      The Communist Party came to power under Stalin. Did he or someone from his entourage fled? But the party of Social Democrats, headed by Lenin, Trotsky, Sverdlov, does not belong to the Communists by any means. Even their new economic policy (NEP) is in no way fighting communist ideas. So read not somewhere, but history books.
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        +5
        4 February 2015 11: 02
        Quote: Armata
        The Communist Party came to power under Stalin. Did he or someone from his entourage fled? But the party of Social Democrats, headed by Lenin, Trotsky, Sverdlov, does not belong to the Communists
        “Lenin was such a man whose left little finger we are not standing, a man who was all forged from stainless steel” (I. Stalin. Speech at a reception at the Grand Kremlin Palace on January 20, 1938).

        "Workers cannot have faith in leaders where the leaders have rotted in the diplomatic game, where words are not backed up by deeds, where leaders say one thing and do another. Why did Russian workers trust Lenin so much? Was it only because his policies were correct? No, not only because of that. They also trusted him because they knew that Lenin's words did not diverge from his deeds, that Lenin would not deceive. This is what Lenin's authority was built on, by the way." (I. Stalin. Collected Works, Vol. 8, p. 114)

        "There can be no question of any" theory "of Stalin, Stalin never claimed anything new in theory, but only sought to facilitate the complete triumph of Leninism in our party." (I. Stalin, VII extended plenum of the ECCI, vol. 9 p. 116)

        “It turns out I have a doctrine of communism, as if Lenin, you see, spoke only about socialism and did not say anything about communism. And I, you see, said about communism. Further, as if I have a teaching on the industrialization of the country, on the collectivization of agriculture, etc. etc. In fact, it is Lenin who has the merit of raising the question of the industrialization of our country, also regarding the issue of collectivization of agriculture, etc. ...
        ...Nowhere is it clearly stated that I am Lenin's student. It is not understood... But only somewhere it is vaguely mentioned. In fact, I considered and consider myself Lenin's student. I clearly said this in the famous conversation with Ludwig... I am Lenin's student, Lenin taught me, and not vice versa. No one can say that I am not Lenin's student. He paved the way, and we are following this beaten path." (From a conversation with the authors' collective preparing the book "Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. A Brief Biography" 23.11.1946)

        “You know that we, the Bolsheviks, are used to going against the tide, and today, as a Bolshevik, I want to talk about a man who, although he has died, will live forever in history. I want to say about the man who raised us, taught us, sometimes chided, and sometimes praised, who made us people — about Lenin.
        It was he, Lenin, who taught us to work the way the Bolsheviks needed to work, without knowing fear and not stopping at any difficulties, to work like Lenin. We are his shadow, his chicks and students. It would be false modesty on my part to say that we, the current leaders of the party and government, have done nothing, we have no achievements. We have successes, but we owe all of this to Lenin. ” (I. Stalin. Speech at a reception in the Kremlin for participants in the decade of Tajik art, April 22, 1941.)
    4. +2
      4 February 2015 10: 29
      different grade
      Scolding the Soviet Union, you all forget about 1987-1993, when people who came to power plundered and destroyed everything that was possible, instead of a civil war there were gang warfare ...
  4. +1
    4 February 2015 07: 53
    The future is communism!


    I doubt .... the ideas of communism (in spite of fair spiritual values) do not take into account the negative traits of a person (hatred, malice, self-interest, meanness, etc.)

    How many people were formally members of the Communist Party and actually pursuing their own selfish goals that crawled out when committing disgusting acts.

    Read the wonderful book by Pavel Nilin “Cruelty” or watch a movie based on this book.

    Two opposites of the communist are shown in all their glory ... GOOD and EVIL are eternal rivals even in the Communist Party.
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      4 February 2015 08: 20
      do not take into account the negative traits of a person (hatred, anger, greed, meanness, etc.)

      That's the whole problem. I completely agree. Weak man. In general, it affects the overpopulation of the Earth. What to do with wild, hungry, lazy, semi-wild herds such as Africa. Or China. Block tomorrow the Russian market and will be the enemy number 1.
    2. GRF
      +5
      4 February 2015 08: 50
      What is communism?
      "Factories for workers, land for peasants, power for the people" ...

      Can this be organized with the negative traits of man under modern capitalism without revolutions and chaos?
      In my opinion it is possible. And for this it is necessary 1 to build new state-owned enterprises (so as not to select honestly previously looted). 2 to give profit from state enterprises to the owner of the state enterprise - the people (this is honest and quite capitalistic). 3 on important decisions to hold more often referenda ...

      But for these changes, the self-awareness of the people must rise ... And it often hurts ...
      1. +2
        4 February 2015 09: 23
        Quote: GRF
        Is it possible to organize with negative traits of a person

        Already organized
    3. +1
      4 February 2015 10: 05
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I doubt .... the ideas of communism (in spite of fair spiritual values) do not take into account the negative traits of a person (hatred, malice, self-interest, meanness, etc.)

      You can agree with this.
      But what does communism have to do with it?
      Just in the USSR under I.V. Stalin had a mechanism. cutting off the possibility of manifestation of the listed abomination.
      Perhaps. the only but very serious mistake. it was that the punitive organs did not have this very filter. and in them precisely anger, self-interest, meanness began to pile up ...

      The indicated drawback with today's awareness of the perniciousness of the repressive path of the Stalinists is easily correctable.
    4. +2
      4 February 2015 10: 42
      I doubt .... the ideas of communism (in spite of fair spiritual values) do not take into account the negative traits of a person (hatred, malice, self-interest, meanness, etc.)

      Aleksey, in connection with my present life, I often recall one episode from my life. I myself was a schoolboy in the early 70s. My parents, father is a carpenter, mother is a nurse, bought an old house for a wreck. We sawed down the forest and built a big beautiful house. The bottom line is that all our relatives helped us in construction, both from the mother's side and from the father's side. Just for bread and for "well, you will help us. If necessary." Tell me now is it possible when man is a wolf to man?
  5. +4
    4 February 2015 07: 56
    For communism, in addition to theoretical conclusions (which are certainly close and understandable to any sane person), there is a need for a "road map" for implementation, in which a mechanism for a mutually beneficial combination of public and private is found. Otherwise, again, "telephone law", queues, shortages ...
    1. +4
      4 February 2015 09: 24
      Quote: svskor80
      in which the mechanism of a mutually beneficial combination of public and private is found.

      This is so, it is necessary to combine social ownership of the means of production and the participation of private capital in the production of services, trade, and agriculture
    2. +1
      4 February 2015 14: 10
      Quote: svskor80
      in which the mechanism of a mutually beneficial combination of public and private

      NEP? Or will we reinvent the Chinese bicycle?
  6. +4
    4 February 2015 07: 57
    However :)
    From morning to earlier :)
    The day has set.
    Another of the Leberasts choked! :)
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 10: 06
      May choke!
  7. +4
    4 February 2015 07: 59
    Now, for sure, the commentators "swam-know" are coming out once again to cheat the great great USSR. winked
    1. -3
      4 February 2015 08: 32
      Quote: Kolka82
      Now, for sure, the commentators "swam-know" are coming out once again to cheat the great great USSR. winked

      Well so who ruined the USSR?
      In which party did Gorbachev, Shevarnadze, Aliyev, Yakovlev and others like them consist?
      I can remind you:
      Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev, member of the CPSU since 1952.
      Eduard Amvrosievich Shevardnadze, member of the CPSU since 1948.
      Heydar Aliyev, member of the CPSU since 1945.
      Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, member of the CPSU since 1944.
      All of them joined the Communist Party under Stalin, after the party was cleansed of the Trotskyists and other scum. The USSR was destroyed by the communists of the Stalinist set.
      1. +1
        4 February 2015 10: 24
        Quote: Nayhas
        All of them joined the Communist Party under Stalin, after the party was cleansed of the Trotskyists and other scum. The USSR was destroyed by the communists of the Stalinist set.

        You vulgarly understand both communism and communists.
        In accordance with the Leningrad school:
        Communism is a process.
        Firstly, fully unattainable.
        Secondly. constantly changing.

        Accordingly, communism is only then. when the process is oriented in a specific direction.

        And these persons entered the CPSU, in their heads ripened grains of personal genius on the basis of mental limitedness.
        So the process started ...
        At all times there was the problem of degenerates and traitors.
        But they never blamed the state. in the fact that there are state criminals, in fact, the concept of the family, in that. that there are unfaithful husbands and wives ...

        so communism is not to blame for the fact that there are perverts to whom personal greed is closer than the homeland and the public heritage.

        By the way, capitalism generally sucks. for the greatness of thinkers K. Marx, F. Engels, V.I. Ulyanov (Lenin), I.V. Dzhugashvili (Stalin) brought up by Capitalism. and cursed him.
        And Jean-Jacques Rousseau, so that one ....
        1. +1
          4 February 2015 14: 36
          Quote: Sergey S.
          And Jean-Jacques Rousseau, so that one ....

          convinced. I enter.
      2. +2
        4 February 2015 10: 26
        Quote: Nayhas
        All of them joined the Communist Party under Stalin, after the party was cleansed of the Trotskyists and other scum. The USSR was destroyed by the communists of the Stalinist set.

        Stalin’s recruitment, but Khrushchev’s upbringing.
        This is for clarification.
      3. +1
        4 February 2015 10: 28
        Quote: Nayhas
        Well so who ruined the USSR?

        They threw about the minuses, though the uterus pierces the eyes wassat
      4. +2
        4 February 2015 10: 46
        Which party were
        Putin has not yet quit the CPSU.
        1. 0
          4 February 2015 13: 29
          Quote: Gardamir
          Which party were
          Putin has not yet quit the CPSU.


          How can one get out of what is not? request
      5. 0
        5 February 2015 11: 50
        Quote: Nayhas
        Well so who ruined the USSR?
        Eugene is 100% right.
        Over the past 6000 years, mankind has stepped far ahead in technological terms, but the greed of human nature has not changed at all.
        So there’s no reason to return to the political pyramid called communism, vanity will never allow equality to exist.
        From birth, we want to be stronger, faster, higher.
  8. +7
    4 February 2015 08: 00
    Thank you.
    Your article is very humane, and I would like justice to come in the world.
    My opinion is utopia.
    Envy will never disappear - we are such, although I can’t understand this vice, but I experienced its effects on myself during the USSR.
    It seems to me that very strict and enforceable laws are simply necessary. After all, this has already happened in the past.
    In addition, people need to be given humane advertising that promotes honest, beautiful work.
    Our contradictions do not come from the difference in money in wallets, but from the lack of respect like you.
    And the most important thing is the exaltation of Love for the child, for the neighbor ...
    1. +4
      4 February 2015 08: 36
      Quote: shishakova
      very strict and enforceable laws are simply necessary. After all, this has already happened in the past.

      There is one more point: communism is actually a religion, faith in a just society. When people believe in him, he draws near, people are confident in the future, and they live well. And when there was no faith in communism, and another religion did not come in its place, society rapidly degraded. And the top of the CPSU and the Komsomol had a hand in this: here they are these very market traders - at first they traded the idea of ​​a just society, and then they traded the country's resources and simply traded the country. Hope this ends.
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  9. +4
    4 February 2015 08: 02
    Well, from one extreme to the next ... the slogan "From each according to his ability to each according to his need" is unrealizable in our world. Maybe just remember the good:
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 13: 22
      Feasible, however. It is only necessary that two processes take place simultaneously - the growth of people's abilities and consciousness; and that needs be reasonable and not growing prohibitively.
      1. 0
        4 February 2015 14: 45
        This requires a much more developed social society. Or it will give a strong connectivity within society when approaching a technical singularity.
  10. +4
    4 February 2015 08: 07
    Pure communism is more utopia than reality. The main slogan "From each as possible, to each according to need" is not possible to realize. To do this, you need a completely new person who will lay out his capabilities 100%, and will consume without greed and greed.
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 08: 27
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The main slogan "From each as possible, to each according to need"

      That's right. Provided that the "need" is determined not by the person himself, but by society.
      1. 0
        4 February 2015 08: 51
        Then a coupon system? In fact, the need will be determined by the state or society was not implied.
        1. +2
          4 February 2015 10: 50
          Now the needs are determined by traders. Take, take, take more. No money, take loans. Here is a new thing, there is nothing new in it except the name. but take it anyway. Consume more, fuck them
    2. +4
      4 February 2015 10: 36
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Pure communism is more utopia than reality. The main slogan "From each as possible, to each according to need" is not possible to realize. To do this, you need a completely new person who will lay out his capabilities 100%, and will consume without greed and greed.

      I repeat:
      Communism is a process of approaching a just society.
      But - another slogan has been forgotten, or rather the law of communism:
      Labor should become a natural human need.

      You will excuse me for vulgarity, but I live in 90% of communism.
      The work is respected and appreciated by me. as extremely necessary to the motherland and the people (higher education).
      They pay little, for this reason they are not in danger of losing their minds on the basis of personal enrichment.
      Pasha all day - there is a certain wealth.
      And when you work a lot, there is too little time to go shopping and dream of gold toilets ...
      I work at night ...
      I’m participating in public life ...

      I was lucky to a certain extent - my wife shares a lot ...
      The son follows a similar path ...

      And who can prove to me that communism is unattainable?
  11. -1
    4 February 2015 08: 18
    Quote: Kolka82
    Now, for sure, the commentators "swam-know" are coming out once again to cheat the great great USSR. winked

    The Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the regional committees on the ground in the USSR were snickering celestials, so airy that the communist system was an asphalt-concrete stronghold among the swamp abyss, and the people were bio-robots in the same cockerels, covered sheepskin coats and bots "goodbye youth" and only for two / three years life they were dressed in military uniforms!
    You know Kolka82 (((, I remember the lessons of atheism in which the divine manifestations were called - stupidity, and the role of Orthodoxy as cement for Russian society was tied to drug addiction (opium for the people), and I heard prayers to God every night that my pro-Grandmother whispered full of love for me and my relatives!
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 09: 50
      Did you live under the USSR? Or judge by excerpts from 3 grade books only?
    2. -1
      4 February 2015 10: 31
      Another stupidity said loudly and with aplomb, and as reinforcement they brought in a grandmother...
    3. +4
      4 February 2015 10: 46
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      You know Kolka82 (((, I remember the lessons of atheism in which the divine manifestations were called - stupidity, and the role of Orthodoxy as cement for Russian society was tied to drug addiction (opium for the people), and I heard prayers to God every night that my pro-Grandmother whispered full of love for me and my relatives!

      No need to pile everything in a row.
      And you need to understand the images not literally. and then we get to the characters of I. Ilf and E. Petrov.

      Religion is opium for the people.
      I agree completely, but ...
      1. For "grandmothers", the weak and the sick - in small doses, this is a sedative medicine that promotes longevity and inner harmony.
      2. For government leaders, it is a drug in strong doses. which suppresses the personal in a person and a citizen, zombies him to fulfill the "divine" (from the leader) orders.

      So no contradictions .... and the complete separation of religion from the state. up to the prohibition of direct contacts between heads of state bodies. government officials and church leaders. No monetary relations between religious entities and the state.

      And, most importantly, a complete ban on sects in Russia, including the New Christian ones.
    4. +3
      4 February 2015 10: 51
      The Central Committee of the CPSU and regional committees on the ground in the USSR were snickering celestials,
      But now the governors are angels in the flesh.
  12. +9
    4 February 2015 08: 21
    from the Don.
    Consumerism, this postulate of liberalism, is very difficult to eradicate, as is envy. And this, like many other instincts, is an obstacle along the road to communism!
  13. +1
    4 February 2015 08: 22
    If we assume that the development of civilization occurs in a spiral, and not in a straight line, then why shouldn't communism be in the future? Of course! I lived under the communists in the Soviet Union and if they hadn't stolen so much, then now they probably would have built something similar to communism.
  14. 10+
    4 February 2015 08: 23
    Such as our capitalism, you will not wish the enemy! Down with feudalism, I am for socialist Russia, without oligarchs !!!!
  15. +6
    4 February 2015 08: 29
    Quote: Dembel 77
    If we assume that the development of civilization occurs in a spiral, and not in a straight line, then why shouldn't communism be in the future? Why, easily! I lived under the communists in the Soviet Union and if they hadn't stolen so much, then now they probably would have built something similar to communism.

    Against today's thieves, then babies.
  16. -2
    4 February 2015 08: 30
    Actually in Europe we have all hope for the German socialists and French national patriots.
    It is time for the EU to rise not from the knees, but from the knee-elbow. The left of Greece is the first swallow.
  17. +5
    4 February 2015 08: 32
    Quote: GRF
    can be done under capitalism with a human face ...


    Dear GRF! Capitalism with a human face DOES NOT EXIST!
    This is the same ridiculous assumption as, say, a fascist peacemaker, vegetarian tiger, salty sugar.
    Well, his nature is so predatory. There is nothing to be done.
    But I understand your idea. You probably meant socialism with a permitted petty form of private property. By the way, Lenin was named for such an initial form of socialism. So go the right way, comrades! wink
  18. +6
    4 February 2015 08: 33
    Quote: name
    Maybe just remember the good
  19. +4
    4 February 2015 08: 38
    * A society organized on a communist basis enables its members to fully utilize their comprehensively developed abilities.
    Source address (you need to enter in the upper address bar): http://volchara1959.ucoz.ru/index/0-2
    1. +1
      4 February 2015 09: 14
      * The main drawback of capitalism is the unequal distribution of goods; the main advantage of socialism is the equal distribution of deprivation.
      Source address (you need to enter in the upper address bar): http://volchara1959.ucoz.ru/index/0-2
  20. +2
    4 February 2015 08: 39
    It is necessary to support the forces that will tear the United States and the West from within, after which their sixes will disappear into oblivion.
    "The enemy of my enemy, my friend" is said very correctly, and now it is relevant for Russia.
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 10: 55
      How humor will pull. If China defeats the United States, then it will not seem to us much.
      1. 0
        4 February 2015 11: 44
        For us, radish is not sweeter, I agree. But what can you offer at the moment? If you choose from two evils, I would still choose China. Although, it would be because it is hard to compete with the Anglo-Saxons alone at this point in time. So, there are no jokes on my part.
        1. -1
          4 February 2015 12: 02
          new communism!
          1. 0
            4 February 2015 12: 25
            Quote: new communist
            new communism!


            New Vasyuki.
            1. -1
              4 February 2015 12: 36
              You can call any interesting program without reading, but there is New York, there is New Harlean, why not a fundamentally new model of communism, Marx is out of date, and there are no new ideologists besides the New Communists.
  21. 0
    4 February 2015 08: 42
    Wow? wassat Isn’t it for nothing that kakly jumped?
  22. +4
    4 February 2015 08: 43
    The future belongs to communism. I don’t doubt it, but we live in the present.
    The change in social formations is an objective process and does not come from our desire, but from real conditions - the level of development of productive forces, labor productivity, simply put.
  23. -9
    4 February 2015 08: 44
    the communists came to our country as invaders, behaved in it like invaders, and fled like fair thieves by robbing the Russian people and destroying the state!
    And what is false in this statement?
    The boorish people staged a violent coup d'etat and seized the full power - the Communist invaders,
    The Civil War, Red Terror, Dekulakization and the Gulag characterize them as occupiers.
    They destroyed the Russian empire and the private property of the individual passed into the hands of the communes!
    1. calocha
      +3
      4 February 2015 09: 10
      It’s evident that your brain swam in fat. You urgently need to see a doctor, otherwise it will be too late!
      1. -6
        4 February 2015 09: 24
        ))) the pancake must have swam, but you don’t have to refute my theses empirically, but you don’t need to throw your brain with shit!
        1. calocha
          +1
          4 February 2015 18: 47
          This is a useless exercise! You are an IDEOLOGICAL ENEMY, and KILLING THESE ONES! hi
    2. +6
      4 February 2015 09: 37
      Let’s once again recall the story of who the invaders, the coup d'état did not begin in October, and in February, the Bolsheviks had nothing to do with it, the bourgeoisie drove the tsar away, the communists, the invaders, as you call them, made a 10-year breakthrough by creating such a state, which broke into the Great Patriotic Ridge of all militant Europe (which is a sin to hide all Europe plowed on Hitler, and not by force)
    3. +4
      4 February 2015 10: 41
      Sitnikov

      "Hams staged a violent coup d'etat" - FEBRUARY 1917, 7 months of chatter, verbiage and rhetoric, the IMPREIA is falling apart, the Baltic states, Belarus, Ukraine, Central Asia are breaking off.
      I had to liberal boor, in October 1917, to throw out of public places.
      "The civil war, the Red Terror, dispossession and the GULAG characterize them as occupiers." - The civil war was unleashed by the WHITES, concentration camps, starting with OYUMUDYUG, the invention of the WHITES with the interventionists, the Red Terror - in response to the White, the GULAG - every revolution, the state is worth something, if they know how to suppress crime, know how to remove from society all kinds of elements that objectively work against the country.
      DISASSEMBLING is an objective process, as well as subsequent collectivization, otherwise in 1941 it would have been a defeat for the country and the army to be fed, and not stuffed a pocket for the snickering rural world-eater. Kulak was assessed by the Minister of the tsarist government under Alexander 3-world-eating.
      It is IMPOSSIBLE to occupy your country, taking advantage of the mass support of the population, by 1922, this issue was clearly shown by the armed people as part of the Red Army — having expelled all sorts of Bely’s gangs and their patrons of interventionists.
      The Russian Empire fell from the restless vanity, speculators of all stripes, the greed of its aristocracy, the inability to conduct the CASE, by those who imagined themselves masters of the country.
    4. +1
      4 February 2015 10: 52
      No need to insist on supporting immoral stupidity.
      If you start to quote that Bunich wrote, for example, about the Russo-Japanese War. then there is no truth at all, nor logic.
      And here is an ordinary attempt to show off at EBNe.

      In general, this author is an outspoken fighter in the information war from that foreign side.
    5. +3
      4 February 2015 10: 56
      The boors staged a violent coup
      Are you talking about 1991? The drunk is still a boor.
  24. -5
    4 February 2015 08: 50
    Yes, we've already been there, and we know how it ends. Communism is paradise, but this paradise can only be built in heaven. And who wants to go to heaven????? NO ONE, except the "blessed".
  25. +1
    4 February 2015 08: 59
    Hmm ... Communism is the savior of mankind! Wake up people! Once again in history they try to rub another bullshit for you. At first they propose to ponastalge around the USSR, and then again the GULAGs, the Red Terror, the annihilation of any religious freedom, etc. will go. All these slogans about freedom, equality and brotherhood we have already heard ...
    1. +7
      4 February 2015 09: 42
      You know, I’m not against religious freedom, but the most striking thing about the Soviet Union was more than it is today, there are just few fires of the Inquisition, it strikes me, there are more and more churches and swords, the level of meanness is higher, clubs in villages have been closed, churches have been built, and sense, read who and what was in the Gulags for what, by modern standards, today we all governing with 90% of officials should go there, along with the Moscow ECHO redaction ...
    2. +1
      4 February 2015 11: 02
      Quote: saveall
      Hmm ... Communism is the savior of mankind! Wake up people! Once again in history they try to rub another bullshit for you. At first they propose to ponastalge around the USSR, and then again the GULAGs, the Red Terror, the annihilation of any religious freedom, etc. will go. All these slogans about freedom, equality and brotherhood we have already heard ...

      In any case, the Red Terror is less terrible for the people. than white terror.
      For 20 years, we have already understood this.
      ukroruina this direct reproach.

      And nevertheless, someone continues to vap to us how badly we lived in the USSR ...

      We lived not easily.
      It was not easy to learn - you cannot buy a grade, you cannot get a diploma for bribes.
      It wasn’t easy at work — they demanded in full, the plan — the law, and the system of the Military Acceptance and the Departments of Technical Control took out their souls, but sought their way.
      It was not easy in money - especially for young people, but real merits were respected, which appeared among workers only with experience.

      These are not easy to go on.
      But then there was a full understanding that I would die. children will be trained and educated that the Motherland is not defenseless, that there is happiness, and it is only possible to reach it together.
      And what were the holidays.
      On the table is Olivier, a herring under a fur coat. simple sausage and cheese with no complaints, and people walk ....
      It was easy to visit, because everywhere again Olivier. and there’s nothing to be ashamed of.
      Enjoy Your Bath! - in a word.

      And our girls were the cleanest ...
      1. +1
        4 February 2015 12: 13
        Quote: Sergey S.
        Quote: saveall
        Hmm ... Communism is the savior of mankind! Wake up people! Once again in history they try to rub another bullshit for you. At first they propose to ponastalge around the USSR, and then again the GULAGs, the Red Terror, the annihilation of any religious freedom, etc. will go. All these slogans about freedom, equality and brotherhood we have already heard ...

        In any case, the Red Terror is less terrible for the people. than white terror.
        For 20 years, we have already understood this.
        ukroruina this direct reproach.

        And nevertheless, someone continues to vap to us how badly we lived in the USSR ...

        We lived not easily.
        It was not easy to learn - you cannot buy a grade, you cannot get a diploma for bribes.
        It wasn’t easy at work — they demanded in full, the plan — the law, and the system of the Military Acceptance and the Departments of Technical Control took out their souls, but sought their way.
        It was not easy in money - especially for young people, but real merits were respected, which appeared among workers only with experience.

        These are not easy to go on.
        But then there was a full understanding that I would die. children will be trained and educated that the Motherland is not defenseless, that there is happiness, and it is only possible to reach it together.
        And what were the holidays.
        On the table is Olivier, a herring under a fur coat. simple sausage and cheese with no complaints, and people walk ....
        It was easy to visit, because everywhere again Olivier. and there’s nothing to be ashamed of.
        Enjoy Your Bath! - in a word.

        And our girls were the cleanest ...

        So after all, communism is nothing here. You can be a communist with your hands up to your elbows in blood (and this was), you can be a communist bawdy, boor and a moral monster (and that was). It is necessary to understand that the internal state of a person does not depend on the state system, but only on the person himself. Those people who lived under the USSR were brought up even before the revolution, and then the war cleared, and then they brought up their children in the same way, but these generations left and all the purity of the soul vanished as if by hand, and communism did not help and the country collapsed like a colossus on feet of clay. Where did those "pure" communists and girls go in the 90s? No guys ... communism has nothing to do with it ... Behind the beautiful slogans there is only a chimera, a utopia, and sometimes an animal grin. When faith and the spiritual component in a person are destroyed, he lives only by purely material ideas and it is possible to keep such a person within the framework only with the help of a system that would regulate and control, one way or another, the life of every citizen, but the problem is that those who have the authorities have no one to regulate and control, and the fish, as you know, rots from the head and the elite begin to corrupt (and what? This also happened with the USSR ...
        Is it really necessary to return to communism and step on the same rake in order to build a just society? We need to change ourselves, look at ourselves in the mirror to see what we ourselves are doing injustice, as well as remember who we are, who were our ancestors, what they believed for almost 1000 years, then our state will be just and strong.
  26. calocha
    +6
    4 February 2015 09: 05
    Kremlin bigwigs don’t think so! They are nicer to steal from the budget, they are already kleptomaniacs, and there’s no one to give them their hands! And what prevents us from taking into account the mistakes of the past and going further and higher than I.V. Stalin and V.I. Lenin ?!
    This is how to make repairs in the ..room, change the interior! This is of course to the detriment of those who are accustomed to fattening at the expense of the People ... and we must fight this! hi
  27. +9
    4 February 2015 09: 10
    Capitalism is the prostitution of all that is valuable that we have, friendship, love, justice, I am for Socialist Russia!
  28. -6
    4 February 2015 09: 11
    I will not argue about communism, this dispute will not lead to anything. But on the walls to dirty (pictured above) the communists are able, like some kind of punks, by God. The clumsy inscription on the wall "The future is behind communism" is certainly more beautiful than just a clean wall. lol The Communists cannot do otherwise; first, everything must be spoiled, broken, and then something can happen. It’s enough, breaking, spoiling. Let live calmly.
    1. +1
      4 February 2015 09: 45
      Well, the prosecutors who are roofing, the mediocre officials, the Chubais, of course, they must finally be allowed to live in peace, otherwise everything is not human, somehow ...
  29. -2
    4 February 2015 09: 11
    People tend to believe in fairy tales, incl. and about the "bright communist future" (or the past). Only they are poorly combined with real life, even worse are embodied in it. Then an acute desire arises to MAKE people believe in whom, a left-wing radical Bolshevism appears, knowing no mercy towards the "enemies of the people" (all those who disagree). Well, yes, these "rakes" have already passed ... In a new circle?
    One must believe in God, in His Commandments, which the Communists have successfully compiled into their "Moral Code". Believing, you can easily do without any "isms." Believe me, it's not worth being a "party member" (anyone). They, a member, twirl as they want!)))
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 09: 48
      Well, tell me that you are ready to believe in something abstract, intangible, but deny the possibility of human improvement, Well then, people are weak once everyone hopes for God, and he is silent ...
    2. 0
      4 February 2015 11: 36
      People tend to believe in fairy tales, incl. and about the "bright communist future" (or the past). Only they are poorly combined with real life, even worse are embodied in it. Then there is an acute desire to MAKE people believe in who, there is left-wing radical Bolshevism, knowing no mercy to the "enemies of the people" (all dissenting). Well, yes, these "rakes" have already passed ... In a new circle?
      One must believe in God, in His Commandments, which the Communists have successfully compiled into their "Moral Code". Believing, you can easily do without any "isms." Believe me, it's not worth being a "party member" (anyone). They, a member, twirl as they want!)))
      Are you talking about the shooting of the "White House" in 1993?
  30. 3vs
    -5
    4 February 2015 09: 18
    Enough about communism.
    Enough of crazy ideas.
    God gave man the ten commandments, obey and all will be happy!
    1. +2
      4 February 2015 09: 49
      Historically, he gave them to a specific people ... who successfully applies them ...
    2. 0
      4 February 2015 10: 34
      Quote: 3vs
      God gave man the ten commandments, obey and all will be happy!

      Which, he, a man of 2000 years with passion breaks, unfortunately in all beautiful ideas, religions, theories, the weakness is the man himself. Some can be realized but in an ideal environment, but how to create it?
    3. +2
      4 February 2015 11: 00
      Well, the commandment "do not steal" does not concern them. They don't steal, they privatize.
  31. +1
    4 February 2015 09: 21
    What is this in the morning?
    Who in the West stood in a line to go to the victory of communism? What "green tap water" did the author take?
    Communism as defined in the USSR is impossible in principle. It is impossible to satisfy all the needs of a person, he is a person and so that needs grow. Man is not an animal. And no speakers will convince anyone that we need to live in the barracks and get everything we need from the captain on schedule. Or it is necessary to average all needs, to satisfy at a minimum, without frills. And who will agree to this, except for those who have nothing at all? I do not believe in the victorious march of communism on the planet. In 70 years they have not reached, with great potential, so, is it time to fan a new world fire? No thanks, have seen enough.
  32. +8
    4 February 2015 09: 29
    The USSR was the best project of mankind. We reached such a height that we could not resist ... Sorry. Good - often does not know how to defend himself ... There were too many enemies and they were more inventive ...
    We in the field of spirituality, art have reached incredible heights and we ourselves did not understand this ... We allowed ourselves to be convinced that the West had gone ahead ... It was true, so we believed ... But it was only part of the truth ... West was moving forward ... And we went up, jumping over several turns of the historical spiral ... We took off!
    We must once again repeat everything, or rather return to the runway ...
    1. calocha
      +5
      4 February 2015 09: 41
      We exchanged spirituality for bubblegum, jeans, Beatles and Pepsi-Cola! There were JUDA-Gorbachev, Yeltsin and others who sold themselves to the West for beads and colored glass! And this was a KGB flaw ............ ...............................................!
    2. -1
      4 February 2015 10: 01
      Quote: Isk1984
      The USSR was the best project of mankind ... We must once again repeat everything.

      Back in USSR?
  33. +6
    4 February 2015 09: 45
    And after 1 year there will be no hungry people at all.
    Well, unless someone with a bullet on a diet put.
    And as there will be no hungry people, there will be no malice, theft, all ugliness.
    Of course, we close the prisons, but we’ll still leave one ... for the world counter, back and forth.
    And the rest are all for scrapping ... who to plant in them?
    - There is someone. - You doubt it ...
    Of course, we will feed, but in order to redo the brains -
    here 1 years is not enough. Maybe 2 is not enough.
  34. -8
    4 February 2015 09: 47
    What is the "minus" in the VO in comparison with the moral satisfaction from complicity in the destruction of the hated communist regime in the USSR? The regime of continuous opportunists - the Komsomol, joined the party in the army, the Komsomol organizer of the plant, district, regional committee, the Central Committee of the CPSU, in particular, it will turn out to be a lazy celestial, and on a national scale - running on the spot!
    He personally helped the soldiers to arrest the top of the Sverdlovsk DOSAAF who joined the PUTChists.
    Cons are only children's vindictiveness of those whom we (the people) dare in 1991 or their descendants.
    By the way, when that vile corpse is removed from the middle of the symbol of the nation - Egypt is some damn thing)))))
    1. +3
      4 February 2015 10: 41
      I thought you were just a builder of a "light liberal" society. And you, concurrently, also arrested. Probably they went to the Bolotnaya police station with fittings?
    2. +2
      4 February 2015 11: 02
      How many people died in the 90s because of people like you ***?
    3. 0
      4 February 2015 11: 46
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      He personally helped the soldiers to arrest the top of the Sverdlovsk DOSAAF who joined the PUTChists.
      Cons are only children's vindictiveness of those whom we (the people) dare in 1991 or their descendants.
      By the way, when that vile corpse is removed from the middle of the symbol of the nation - Egypt is some damn thing)))))

      No need to brag about the participation in the civil war that your direct leaders tried to unleash.
      I do not know. what then was right to do.
      I am convinced of one thing. If it were not for the predecessor of Gorbachev and his inner circle, then in 1989 the war between the USSR and the United States would have been less destructive for the country than the "peaceful" transformations of the liberal-occupation regime of EBN.
      And for the use of the army against the highest authority in 1993, the EBN will still be judged ...

      By the way, the descendants of those whom you dare do not know who specifically dared them.
      And that is your happiness.
      And then you would be very surprised ... world order.
      About the mausoleum. The question is delicate.
      To bury V.I. Lenin is necessary.
      But this can only be done by people who are clean at hand, and not political enemies.
      That's when the Communists will be the ruling party, then, I am sure, our educated people will perform the rite of burial ...
      So vote for the Communists, we’ll bury Lenin sooner.
  35. +9
    4 February 2015 09: 47
    And after 1 year there will be no hungry people at all.
    Well, unless someone with a bullet on a diet put.
    And as there will be no hungry people, there will be no malice, theft, all ugliness.
    Of course, we close the prisons, but we’ll still leave one ... for the world counter, back and forth.
    And the rest are all for scrapping ... who to plant in them?
    - There is someone. - You doubt it ...
    Of course, we will feed, but in order to redo the brains -
    here 1 years is not enough. Maybe 2 is not enough.

    "Two comrades served"
  36. +1
    4 February 2015 09: 54
    I think that communism, with all the attractiveness of this idea, is a beautiful utopia. In real life, the restoration of socialism and a planned economy in Russia is more reasonable. Modern information and communication technologies will bring the planned economy to the desired efficiency. And the market, like communism, is utopia.
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 10: 51
      Communism according to Marx is utopia, and the new communism is reality, just many do not see the way how this will be done.
  37. +1
    4 February 2015 10: 06
    In my opinion, the problem is that at any time and in any state structure people who are not able to do anything are rushing into power; unprincipled insignificance and false opportunists.
    The percentage of "ideological" people is incommensurably insignificant.
    When I was in school and at a university, there was a specific tendency - those who did well did go to science, research institutes, design bureaus, and production. Lap-goers went to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, firefighters, etc. Quiet threesomes rushed to the Komsomol, the party and government agencies. They are there and rule the ball.
  38. 0
    4 February 2015 10: 08
    We do not understand, the defense of Karl Marx is not hostile to anyone, but we see a correlation / parallel, vrzkata / between the militarum of the year of the Evolution and the communist idea. And s'ya de!
  39. 0
    4 February 2015 10: 46
    The future is communism!

    With our oligarchs who have tasted the magic of power and money? If only a very distant future.
  40. -1
    4 February 2015 10: 49
    Future - 3rd world thermonuclear 2020, after 2025 for questioned fascism, then by 2065 New Communism will win. It will not be otherwise. New communism is the highest stage of development of human civilization.
  41. 0
    4 February 2015 10: 56
    An interesting article, especially after the previous publication of the author. laughing
    Put a plus. wink
  42. +2
    4 February 2015 11: 02
    ...comrade is right, we've had enough of these filthy bourgeois all over the world! And there's no peace from them in our own land!!!
  43. dmb
    +9
    4 February 2015 11: 15
    Oh, and I am amused by my fellow citizens who simultaneously praise Stalin for building socialism, are proud of the tricolor and the double-headed eagle, against which Stalin fought, scold Yeltsin, who returned to them the tricolor with the eagle and the dubious "values" that they personified, and idolize Putin, who calls Stalin a criminal and actively imposes "values" returned by the same Yeltsin. Well, you can't be half-pregnant. As for the article, the author skillfully copied what Khazin wrote a week earlier, but did not reveal the essence of the process. Although he gave it a more than correct title. I want to ask those who disagree with the title, and the essence of their disagreement is mainly that Zyuganov and Shevardnadze with Gorbachev are kaki, what can you offer in exchange. But they can't do anything, because their ideas about social order don't go beyond the idea that "bloody communists" will take away their kiosk and even collectivize their chickens. The most "advanced" ones also say that meanness and greed are the essence of human nature. If everything were so, then humanity would hardly have developed at all. Because a medieval knight was noble only to his equals, and not to the "vile class". By saying this, these fellow citizens are essentially repeating the "liberals" they dislike so much: "Why all these sacrifices of our ancestors, civilized Germans would have brought order to us and there would have been no point in resisting their nobility." They (the Germans), just like our current capitalists, would gradually realize their immorality and would have made the lives of these "advanced" fellow citizens much better. True, if you ask any "advanced" whether he is a scoundrel and a greedy person, the "advanced" will indignantly call you a slanderer. Read Lenin, communism will be built by conscious people, and they still need to be educated. This is a process not of one decade, but most likely of a century, but there are no other options.
  44. 0
    4 February 2015 11: 15
    Since it is still quite difficult for readers to concentrate on the essence of the theory of new communism, since the topic of new communism is huge and still little studied, we will meet you halfway and briefly characterize the theory of new communism. We will use the successful experience of the Bolsheviks and present the theory of new communism in theses. More details about any thesis are written in our program.
    1) The superbly functioning State Planning Committee.
    2) Type of ownership: State, superbly managed and private, with 100 percent protection of legally acquired private property.
    3) Management system, cyber management based on new principles.
    4) Life forms: Protein and electron-network (Peaceful and harmonious coexistence.)
    5) Financial system: hyperinflationary, tax-free,
    6) Class structure: tuxedo slackers, tailcoat workers, intelligentsia (hegemon), bourgeoisie, ruling elite.
    7) Trading system: new communist internet trading plus classical.
    8) A society of high spiritual and material wealth.
    9) Environmental problems have been solved.
    10) Total world labor productivity is over 88 percent.
    11) Changing the paradigm of the state (The state is the best friend for its citizens.)
    12) All possible freedoms for citizens within the framework of common sense.
    13) Replacement of competition with new communist competition.
    14) Replacement of patent law with copyright law. (New communist.)
    15) Unemployment over 80 percent with the unconditional right of every citizen to free, highly paid work.
    The tasks of the New Communist Party, and its philosophy.
    Now in Russia many new political parties have been created and this is good. But a simple question arises, why were they created? What philosophical ideas do they bring to their citizens? Let's be honest, many parties were created for the sake of being created and do not have any sensible philosophical ideas. The New Communist Party was created as a prototype of the future most mass party on planet Earth and has clear, implementable philosophical ideas. - that's where the future belongs!!!
  45. -1
    4 February 2015 11: 56
    It feels like half of the participants on the forum are either losers or "all-prospers".
  46. -3
    4 February 2015 12: 00
    Communism is the past. request Gentlemen, the Communists Gorbachev, Yeltsin and others have SACRED a great country. negative
    They had all the fullness of power, all the reserves of this country.
    The ideas of communism as well as Christianity are very good and no one argues about this.
    ? Give the Communists another chance? stop
    You had enough and you couldn't cope! stop Russia did not deserve to be experimented with, and even more so repeated failed ones.
    It is worth considering another idea for the country. hi
    Or do you think that the choice is only between communism and capitalism?
  47. +1
    4 February 2015 12: 08
    Our country has not formed a state ideology. And it should be. Otherwise, it will not be Power, but rabble. I see nothing wrong with taking left-wing ideas for this ideology. For example, social orientation. And not only to declare them, but also to fulfill them. We need a nationally oriented elite. Without it, it will be the same as with the USSR. Who was the first to rush to plunder the crumbling USSR? People who were party and Komsomol leaders.
    1. Userpic
      +2
      4 February 2015 13: 17
      Quote: Alexander1959
      Our country has not formed a state ideology.
      I see nothing wrong with taking left-wing ideas for this ideology. For example, social orientation.

      Look in the dictionary on the definition of the term "ideology" and read the first two chapters of the constitution.

      Their ideology is not formed ... Kindergarten ...
      1. -1
        4 February 2015 13: 35
        The entry in the Constitution about ideological diversity does not mean that it is impossible to form an ideology for the majority. And this Constitution was adopted after the shooting of the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation. There is no truth truer, but there is a truth more useful.

        Their ideology is not formed ... Kindergarten ...

        It has long been noticed that in forums, without seeing the opponent in person, you can write in an insulting and insulting-derogatory tone ....
        1. +1
          4 February 2015 14: 16
          Quote: Alexander1959
          There is no truth truer, but there is truth more useful.

          I mean, whose truth is truer?
          1. 0
            4 February 2015 14: 34
            In the sense, to whom something is useful, that is what it supports. And as for the absolute truth .... let us leave arguments to philosophers and theologians
            1. +2
              4 February 2015 15: 26
              Quote: Alexander1959
              In the sense, to whom something is useful, that is what it supports.

              it is useful to eat vitamins and enemas once a half-year to put good
              Quote: Alexander1959
              And as for the absolute truth .... let us leave arguments to philosophers and theologians

              Being, as a philosophical concept, carries a variety of forms, phenomena of all kinds, the totality and complex of moral standards! Yes
              ps almond is not mine .....
              1. +1
                4 February 2015 18: 36
                Quote: DRA-88
                Being, as a philosophical concept, carries a variety of forms, phenomena of all kinds, the totality and complex of moral standards!

                About how!
                And he pretended to be, I’m a paratrooper, a paratrooper! laughing wink
        2. 0
          4 February 2015 14: 38
          Interestingly, minus is for saying about ideology or for observing about behavior on forums?
        3. Userpic
          +3
          4 February 2015 20: 06
          Quote: Alexander1959
          It has long been noticed that in forums, without seeing the opponent in person, you can write in an insulting and insulting-derogatory tone ....
          There is such a thing, but it's really a kindergarten.

          Quote: Alexander1959
          The entry in the Constitution about ideological diversity does not mean the impossibility of forming an ideology for the majority
          WHAT IS IDEOLOGY ?!

          Understand this, read the first 2 chapters - and in the future you will read the 13th article as follows: None [OTHER] ideology can not be established as a state or mandatory.
  48. +2
    4 February 2015 12: 20
    The last days of the USSR, remember how it was
  49. -1
    4 February 2015 12: 45
    All this is an evolutionary process. And if you start the revolutionary process again, and with us, in Russia, God forbid, the blood will flow ...
    1. -1
      4 February 2015 14: 26
      without blood it will not work, and with blood you are a criminal, and how then what to do. and with blood it doesn’t work out for nothing that the law on PMCs is carried out.
    2. +2
      4 February 2015 14: 33
      Quote: Abbra
      blood will flow ...

      Sometimes it’s useful to donate some blood to improve the well-being of the whole body.
  50. 0
    4 February 2015 12: 55
    With good intentions, the road to Hell is paved.
  51. +3
    4 February 2015 12: 57
    I read many here, I was surprised, many chatlans did not get along sincerely consider oligarchic capitalism, a system based on greed, the pinnacle of human civilization. Of course, it is nice to sit in a swamp, make money, eat well, show off as much as possible and think that you will not have to pay for it. And the price is the 3rd world thermonuclear. In 1914, they paid for a well-fed life with the 1st world, millions and great empires perished, then it seemed not enough, they paid with the 2nd world, but many do not get it. Soon we will pay off the Gambarg account again.
  52. Tribuns
    0
    4 February 2015 13: 17
    The people of Russia deserve a better future...

    The article contains no evidence (concrete arguments) in favor of the statement that “the future belongs to communism!”
    When will the wonderful communist future come and what is being done for it?
    Perhaps in a generation...and peacefully...
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 13: 20
      And if not peacefully and soon, for example by 2020, the 3rd world thermonuclear, if on planet Earth by 2030, by the end of the war there will be no more than 350 million left, then communism cannot be built for them.
  53. +4
    4 February 2015 13: 51
    To the above - purely based on facts:
    Today, among others, the two most dynamically developing economies, simply called "economic miracles", are China and Vietnam, where the communists are in power.
    Many here slander the CPSU and the Bolsheviks, but apart from them, no one else in the world was able to build a nuclear power from an agrarian country in 70 years. After the devastation in the post-revolutionary period, from 1921 they began minting silver coins, carried out electrification and industrialization of the country, broke the back of fascist Germany and from 1945 in 10 years restored the destroyed country, abolished food cards and carried out a monetary reform. Neither at the time of the collapse of the Russian Empire, nor during the Second Patriotic War - the communists did not allow territorial losses, but on the contrary, they carved out additional territories.
    I’m not even talking about what the communists gave to almost every village - Ilyich’s light bulb, a reading room (library), medicine, a school, a kindergarten, a post office, a cultural center - I listed what today, in the course of liberal reforms, in the majority The village was liquidated.
    The whole trouble is that during the stagnant Brezhnev years, the decay of the party nomenklatura began. In the shadow of old and rotten stumps, seeing themselves in Budenovkas, the Gorbachovs and Yeltsins grew up - sycophants and traitors, who were "timely" found by the CIA service, which is a big minus and failure of the KGB. Now we have what we have.
    There is no market - they had some shortcomings and kinks, but they were only 70 years old, and what development!!!
    China didn’t break anything - it supplemented what was available at that time with elements of capitalism, and everything the Chinese have is top-notch.
  54. Sendi7s
    0
    4 February 2015 14: 03
    If we get the same socialism in Russia as in Finland and Holland, then we don’t need any communism! smile
    Economic and political stability, clear legislation and a powerful system of social protection of the population are very attractive in both countries. And more than once, many analysts and historians have written that both of these countries are countries of true socialism, where its best principles are embodied, and the state really protects the rights and freedoms of its citizens.
    As always, it all depends on the people...
  55. 0
    4 February 2015 14: 21
    let’s say there wasn’t much justice under socialism, but now I’m not even trying to look for it
  56. 0
    4 February 2015 14: 32
    Yes, as they said before, a ghost is wandering around Europe, a ghost...., and then you can add it yourself
  57. +2
    4 February 2015 14: 59
    Let's remember which country took the Oath.
  58. +3
    4 February 2015 15: 28
    Comrades! Let me make a few comments.
    1. Before discussing anything, it is necessary to clarify the concepts, then the conversation will be substantive and the meaning will appear.
    2.What is "democracy"? According to ancient sources - the power of the people ("demos" - people, "kratos" - power).
    In fact, this concept is the beginnings of the doctrine of the common good. But since in ancient times this concept was only the beginning of theoretical developments, the meaning of this concept was not fully revealed, which allows the current so-called “elites” to simply manipulate this concept. Those. The doctrine of democracy speaks only about the power of the people, but does not show either the final goal or the ways to achieve it. Hence the nonsense of our politicians about building a “democratic”, “social”, “legal” state.
    2. What is "religion"? It's simple - faith. There is already a goal here - the construction of a just “kingdom of God” on earth. The goal is already more or less indicated in the commandments. However, again, religion does not say how to build such a “kingdom”.
    3. “Capitalism”, “socialism”, “communism” are nothing more than the development of the ideas of democracy and religion. According to the teachings of Marx, Engels, Lenin - socio-economic formations. I repeat, SOCIO-ECONOMIC FORMATIONS. Here ideas and faith are combined with real life, with the concept of “economy”.
    And at the heart of the life of each of us, whether we like it or not, lies our understanding of life (IDEOLOGY) and the way to implement ideology (politics, law, economics).
    4. “Ideology” is nothing more than a definition of a goal, ways to achieve this goal and rules of behavior along the way to the goal.
    If you believe that all people are equal, that the common good is higher than the personal, or rather, the personal is limited by the common, then you are an ideological communist
    If you think that people are not equal from birth, that among equals there are more equals who have more rights, then according to ideology you are a slave owner, a feudal lord, a monarchist, a capitalist (these socio-economic formations are united in relation to property - property must be owned by individuals and work primarily for these individuals).
    5. Before the Great October Socialist Revolution, there was slavery, feudalism (monarchy as the highest form of feudalism), and the beginnings of capitalism. Natural resources, means and fruits of labor were appropriated by a group of people. The composition of this group expanded during the transition from one formation to another, but constituted a small percentage of the population of a particular state.
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    2. Tanechka-clever
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      4 February 2015 22: 08
      Quote: Communist 1
      Comrades! Let me make a few comments.


      I personally liked your comment Vladimir - I give it a thumbs up.
  59. -1
    4 February 2015 15: 52
    Quote: saag
    Why not, they still haven’t come up with anything better, Aurora is being docked :-)

    You can come up with anything (communism), but no one could implement it. So, logically, what was invented is not correct. Unlike...
    “Democracy is a bad form of government, but humanity has not come up with anything better” W. Churchill
  60. +1
    4 February 2015 17: 14
    It seems to me that many people do not understand the essence of communism? For some reason they remember the Soviet Union. Yes, there were shortcomings then. But the confrontation in the minds between the USSR and the current Federation has nothing to do with communism. Just advice to both supporters and opponents, read what communism is. and then break the keyboards.
  61. Tanechka-clever
    +1
    4 February 2015 17: 24
    “Back in the early 2000s ... left Western countries without a sound alternative for political and social development”

    The article is written... easily and briskly, ... BUT the "fairy tale" with new HEROES is not written so quickly...
    And therefore I will express my THOUGHT ...
    First, an ideology is born in society, its conductors appear, and social relations are built on its foundation, in which economic relations are only part of these relationships.

    Is it possible to call Dugina Alexandra an ideologist - of course. He has his own concept, which he disseminates to the masses through the media.
    For example Igor Druz and Strelkov's assistant is very similar to a "conductor" of someone's ideology, which he calls "Orthodox". He also uses the media, but his speeches are only someone's slogans and interests, albeit under the banner of "Orthodoxy".
    And a very interesting character Egor Prosvirin. Personally, he does NOT remind me of an ideologist or a "guide" of someone's ideology. Although he and his supporters have made such attempts. Rather, he is a "cuckoo", abandoned by his mother cuckoo in someone else's nest. Simply, to be an IDEOGOGIST you need to be a deep thinker with a philosophical bent. Moreover, there are many who want to be a philosopher today, like weeds growing in the garden of the political space.

    If we imagine, for example, the sun as an ideology, then its rays are already conductors of the idea. And Yegor - among these rays there will only be a wandering atom. But instead of the sun, you can imagine any destructive natural element with its epicenter.
    In this way, It depends on the ideology in a society whether it leads society to creation or destruction.

    At school I was taught that the development of society occurs in a spiral, and also that first there was a primitive system and the human herd, which formed into a society through the community, then feudalism and only then CAPITALISM. Although I always doubted it.
    For example, capitalism from a philosophical point of view is a society in which there is a priority of the PRIVATE over the public and hence the exploitation of some by others.
    Communism is a commune where the public takes precedence over the private.
    And socialism as a formation of social existence, where a social compromise between private and public must be found. This is when the private provides for personal needs independently without exploiting anyone and does not receive income from this. In such a social space, the model of relations between people is built for the benefit of the public, and the development of the private pursues, first of all, the interests of the public.
    Thus, I believe that first in primitive society there was primitive CAPITALISM, in which PRIVATE RIGHTS prevailed and primitive accumulation of capital of "personal wealth" took place. Then comes COMMUNISM, because survival alone in the conditions of struggle with other communities is simply impossible. And only then socialism as the highest form of social development.

    Capitalism or world imperialism, therefore, will always be the most primitive form at the next turn of the spiral of social existence, followed by communism and only then the highest form of social existence - socialism.
    But for each NEW formation, conditions must arise, what the “BOTTOMS” want and how the “TOP” will resist. Soviet dissidents and our newborn liberal showed that when the private prevails over the public in a society, there will be no changes, but only “patriotic calls” like Yevgeny Fedorov about the national liberation movement in the country.
    I love listening to him...he speaks beautifully, but what he’s talking about...I still don’t understand.
  62. -1
    4 February 2015 17: 36
    Quote: saag
    Under communists, the vast majority of goods were made in the USSR; can the Russian Federation boast of this?

    But what quality? You had to chase a good thing, and the queues were for defects.
    Everyone went to Moscow, not only to buy sausage, but also to get dressed. I myself came and bought a suit in Moscow after a construction brigade (I earned money) And in 1974 I couldn’t buy a wedding suit in Moscow either. I lived in Tbilisi before the army, served in Mukachevo, I was in Lvov, and everywhere the stores were full of food, but when I got to central Russia, the stores were empty.
    I never dreamed of a car.
    No, I don't need that kind of communism, although I've been in the party since 69. Now I'm retired, but I work and have everything: an SUV, a nice house in the village, an apartment. I could tell you a lot about socialist reality. Communists, downvote me.
    1. dmb
      +2
      4 February 2015 21: 43
      Do you have any granddaughters? You probably think: “They will get an apartment and a house in the village. And a little money in VTB Bank, in the account. And then boom, such a nuisance, the bank burst, and the dollar jumped again, and my granddaughters have to pay for their studies at school, and God forbid, at the institute. And my daughter, yes, decided to give birth to another one at the wrong time, and the doctor tells her that you can give birth for nothing, but it’s better for money, it’s somehow more reliable. Well, I think I’ll get into the SUV and I'll go to the governor and complain about all this chaos, but I thought that an SUV wouldn't be enough to fill my salary along with my pension. I got on the lisaped and drove off. Our chief of the most democratic police overtook me on the way, but unsuccessfully. I'm in the hospital, but the apartment and the house in the village there were some shaven-headed policemen, or bandits who had already scratched the bosses of a Bentley on him, the boss was re-registered. And I finally understood why L.I. Brezhnev asked to bury him face down. Well, so that when they dig him up, it would be more convenient to kiss." I haven’t even described half the joys awaiting your descendants. Would you like to continue?
  63. 0
    4 February 2015 23: 14
    It is not necessary to recreate socialism in the form in which it was. You can still take all the best from him and leave everything that is not needed, as well as take something from democracy. Is it really not possible? It’s possible, but no one needs it.
  64. 0
    4 February 2015 23: 42
    I read the comments and... cursed. You can argue until you're blue in the face about the advantages of capitalism and socialism (communism theoretically possible only in an anthill or in a bee colony, i.e. in super totalitarian systems with complete suppression individual. And even then, if biologists are to be believed, even in these natural communities relationships are regulated through satisfaction andindividual needs of individuals. The insects plow for their ration of the queen's vital secretions, which workers are not capable of producing. But if the opportunity arises, these same seemingly unreasonable insects get caught just as much as people wink )
    The main reason why the Soviet system collapsed is that the majority of the population of the USSR agreed with it. Until the majority desires a return to the socialist path, it will not happen. The servants of the backstage are now in power in Russia, and these demons are excellent connoisseurs of human souls and unrivaled experts in the science of bribery. For the sake of interest, I conducted my own micro-study after the latest elections to government bodies. It would seem that the most ardent supporters of the communists should be those same old retired veteran grandmothers who remember the Soviet times better than others. But no, almost without exception they voted for Putin and his party. Male pensioners are mostly supporters of the communists. The fact that there are many times more grandmothers than grandfathers among pensioners is no secret to anyone. Grandmothers are very trainable. Under the communist regime, pensions began to be delayed - under the communist Gorbachev, and under the communist regime, pensions began to be paid almost hourly, and even regularly indexed - right, under the great democrat Putin. Moreover, future pensioners are no longer promised such a paradise. It is important now to shut the mouths of those who remember Soviet times with candy. Young people don't give a damn about elections, they have been given complete freedom, in schools the authority of teachers has been lowered below the baseboard, at home, parents have no time for politics either - they, with their tongues hanging out, work off loans for iPhones for growing blockheads. And the current leadership of the CPRF imitates vigorous activity: after observing the latest elections, I suggested that the communists add a tear-off stub with a duplicate number to the standard ballots, so that after the votes are counted, each voter, if desired, could check the results of their ballot via the Internet, since KAIBs are used almost everywhere, and receiving and transmitting such information via the Internet is not very difficult technically. In response, there is silence, although the CPRF after each election keeps repeating about fraud. In short, until people really get into trouble (like in 1917), nothing will change.
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 23: 52
      Quote: Velikorus
      I read the comments and...

      In general, you are of course right. But. The idea of ​​communism is still more humane than the social Darwinism of capitalism.
      Did the performance let you down? It's true. The ideal is generally unattainable, but this does not mean that movement towards the ideal is impossible. hi
      1. +1
        5 February 2015 00: 13
        From a practical point of view, building a communist society is impractical and practically unattainable. This is an ideal model with 100% efficiency. There will always be saboteurs, quitters, parasites, criminals and other “free apps”. Socialism is practically the most acceptable form of a socially just society, the most balanced of those actually possible. In the USSR, the discord began with the gradual curtailment of the responsibility and control of the rulers to the people under bravura speeches about the leading role of the party. The CPSU turned into an idol, within which the current masters of life were born. This is completely correctable by law. The main recipe is complete transparency of power to the people and full responsibility. No parliamentary immunity. If you get dirty, answer questions in the people's court. Everything is as simple as a rivet.
        1. 0
          5 February 2015 00: 24
          Quote: Velikorus
          From a practical point of view, building a communist society is impractical and practically unattainable. This is an ideal model with 100% efficiency. There will always be saboteurs, quitters,

          So I say
          The ideal is not achievable at all,

          Quote: Velikorus
          The main recipe is complete transparency of power to the people and full responsibility.

          But achieving this is probably no easier than building communism.

          Quote: Velikorus
          Socialism is practically the most acceptable form of a socially just society, the most balanced of those actually possible.

          Agree. But nevertheless, movement towards communism is necessary. Otherwise there will be stagnation and collapse.
          1. +1
            5 February 2015 00: 38
            An attempt to jump from feudalism to socialism in Afghanistan ended in a national catastrophe and rivers of blood. Whatever you say, any social formation requires for its existence the emergence and sustainable manifestation of certain conditions in society. The Soviet Union had something to improve and there was no need to force the transition to the communist model. It is necessary that the ideas of communism become an integral part of public consciousness, and then there will be no need to build, much less organize a revolution - communism will come by itself. Only this is again if we consider a system with 100% efficiency. I think if the socialist model works for at least 300 years, humanity itself will change for the better. But people with a penchant for parasitism will always be born and in fairly large numbers, so the construction of true communism is pushed into the foreseeable future bully
        2. 0
          5 February 2015 09: 36
          You simply do not see the path to building communism.
  65. 0
    5 February 2015 10: 49
    The future is communism!

    Of course. And who can argue? Well, maybe not now. And not tomorrow. And not the day after tomorrow.
    Well, certainly not in the 21st century.
    We must strive to study the issue thoroughly without fuss and without bloody foam.
    Let the communists turn at least one collective farm into millionaires, without foreign grandees.
    And without agricultural holdings. Where people are not needed. at all.
    The entire communist idea is built on such a shaky structure that there are simply no words.
    And they still want something else!
    You'll get the idea that mass corporations will come with communism. With slave labor.
    A sort of "Auschwitz".
    But the idea is bright. But for a very long term.
    Let the United States first experience all the delights of communism.