Yuri Selivanov. The myth of US military omnipotence

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Yuri Selivanov. The myth of US military omnipotence


The other day, the official representative of the Pentagon said sad for this department news: “The Ministry of Defense no longer has the sole access to the most advanced technologies or the ability to control their development, as before.” Who exactly is responsible for depriving the US of the monopoly position in the field of military know-how, said First Deputy Secretary of Defense Robert Wark, who at a conference at the New American Security Center in Washington said that because of the growing capabilities of Russia and China, NATO countries need to invest in innovative weapons.

The military achievements of the two countries mentioned above deserve a separate discussion. And now it seems to us important to assess how this is the case in the United States. And not from the point of view of innovative exoticism, about which the grandmother said in two, it will give some effect or not, but taking into account the existing, the most essential components of their military power.

In addition, we will try to consider the power capabilities and prospects of America in a somewhat unusual perspective - not in an abstract global context, but exclusively in relation to the particular case of the so-called projection of force - in relation to the Russian Federation. After all, only the lazy is not talking about the growing likelihood of such a development of events in recent times.

So, what is the American military power in the context of its possible use directly against Russia? This is indeed a key issue on the military agenda, since no other country in Russia can even theoretically threaten, and after the collapse of the USSR, America also tried not to abuse direct projection of military power against the Russian Federation.

As a result, it turned out that everything that we know about the combat capabilities of the US Armed Forces is associated with the use of these forces against countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya or Yugoslavia. What, you see, in comparison with Russia is not the same thing. And from this it follows logically that the relative success of the American military formations in these local wars does not prove anything from the point of view of the Russian Federation, since they dealt with qualitatively different objects of force influence.

So how does the US Armed Forces look like in relation to the tasks that they may have to solve on the front of the fight against Russia? At once we will say that, in our opinion, they look rather pale. Especially if we put the nuclear-missile potential out of the brackets, according to which the United States and Russia maintain approximate parity, and its actual use is pure suicide from the military and state point of view. Especially for the United States, as a state, is more complex and extremely fragile.

Among the non-nuclear means of waging so-called conventional warfare, the first place in the United States is, of course, naval fleet. Which is quite natural from the point of view of the geographical position of this power, separated from most of the rest of humanity by two major oceans. Since the time of Admiral Mahan, who developed the theory of American sea power at the beginning of the 20th century, it was the navy that bore the main burden of conveying American “ideals” to all corners of the planet. The navy’s fundamental importance as the main military force was also emphasized by its own aviation (deck-based) and ground forces - in the form of a marine corps. That is, in fact, the US Navy is such an army in the army, which has everything necessary for an autonomous warfare even at the ends of the world. This strategy of the American long arm was fully completed in the middle of the XNUMXth century after the final formation of the aircraft carrier fleet, with the help of which it was possible to ensure the combat stability of military groups at any distance from the United States itself.

The Americans very successfully used their fleet during the war in the Pacific with Japan, where in conditions of an extremely large and comfortable ocean carrier theater for deck-based aviation, a real “aircraft carrier revolution” took place, following which these huge ships became the main striking force of the fleet and means of warfare.

In the post-war period, the justification of aircraft carrier strategy in the eyes of Americans was repeatedly confirmed during US military interventions in Korea, Indochina, Latin America, the Middle East and even in Europe (Yugoslavia).

It would seem that America has no reason to be discouraged. In her hands is the most powerful instrument of global military-political dictate, which has repeatedly confirmed in practice its highest effectiveness. Moreover, Russia, in any case, so far has no analogous counter force, and its possibilities for successfully combating aircraft carrier groups in the ocean are quite hypothetical.

However, one has only to take a close look at the globe of the planet Earth, as doubts immediately arise about the high effectiveness of the use of the US aircraft carrier fleet against Russia. Unfortunately for the American admirals, the Russian Federation is geographically located in such a way that it is practically impossible to approach it at a distance that provides at least the minimum efficiency of the use of aircraft carriers to support ground forces. Judge for yourself. In the south, the maximum that the American carrier-carrier strike group (AUG) can reach is the Turkish straits of Bosporus and Dardanelles. Further the continuous headache begins. Firstly, the passage of aircraft carriers into the Black Sea is legally prohibited by the Montreux Convention of the 1936 year. Secondly, it is far from a fact that Turkey, which has become very independent in recent years, will let them through there. The Turks have recently had quite a few additional motives for respecting Russia, which cannot be said about their attitude to the United States.

But even if Washington manages to persuade Turkey by hook or by crook and force it to let the aircraft carriers through, this in no way changes the fundamental fact that the Black Sea is simply too small for the successful operational activities of such naval units. And this is not to mention the fact that Russian Crimea militarily reliably controls the entire Black Sea basin, and the aircraft carriers currently deployed there missile and aviation weapons are quite sufficient to solve the “aircraft carrier problem” in a matter of minutes.

Thus, the use of American AUGs from the south against Russia can be considered practically excluded. True, in addition to aircraft carriers, the US Navy has a fairly large number of smaller ships - the so-called amphibious assault helicopters with expeditionary forces of the marines on board. But the whole hitch lies precisely in the fact that without the support of carrier-based aviation from aircraft carriers, these essentially large floating barges do not represent any independent military value, and an attempt by them to land a naval landing without a full air cover will inevitably lead to a complete collapse of such an adventure. Of course, America always has the opportunity to achieve the deployment of its air force on the airfields of the states neighboring Russia. But this is a little different and also not easy storyIt has no relation to the topic of using the most powerful non-nuclear component of the US Armed Forces - the carrier fleet.

Exactly the same sad picture for Americans we see in other potential marine theaters. In the West there is a narrow neck of the Baltic Sea, which even now the aircraft of the Russian naval and long-range aviation are constantly being ironed. The attempt to introduce aircraft carrier fleet into such narrowness is not only aimless from a military point of view due to the presence of a number of ground bases of NATO, it is also extremely risky because of the extreme discomfort of the “Baltic puddle” for these ocean-going ships. That is, in this case, the US Navy will remain out of work. To the north, the American AUG is better not to go at all. This is a traditional patrimony of the Russian Northern Fleet, which, despite all the losses, is still able to reliably control the sea area within a radius of at least thousands of miles from its shores.

And even in the Pacific, where the US Navy traditionally feels masters of the situation, the outline of the maritime borders of the Russian Federation is so uncomfortable for American naval commanders that they can only bite their elbows. And indeed, in order to approach the main habitable spaces and centers of resistance in the Russian Far East, the American fleet would have to overcome the narrowness between the Kuril Islands, well swept by Russian anti-ship missiles and aircraft, or, by degree of risk, is approximately the same as the situation with Crimea on the Black Sea. Moreover, Russia is now actively equipping militarily these key island territories for the defense from the sea. And Japan, despite all the US harassment that is very understandable in this light, cannot solve the issue of control over the South Kuril Islands, which would provide the US Navy with a relatively safe passage to the mainland of the Russian Federation.

It turns out that although Russia is a country of three oceans and a half dozen seas, the main military force of America - the carrier fleet - is practically unable to approach its territory from sea directions. But it is precisely this fleet that is the basis of the entire Navy, and the Navy, in turn, is the main non-nuclear trump card of the United States. It turns out that Russia quite effectively neutralizes this trump before the start of its real use.

As for another key non-nuclear component of this supposedly “invincible armada” - dozens of ships equipped with Tomahawk cruise missiles, the combat effectiveness of this technology forty years ago with regard to the vast experience gained in the fight against such means of air attack causes more and more reasonable doubt. Let us say that the huge US missile fleet is close to exhausting its combat capabilities. However, in the best of times, its combat effectiveness raised many questions. Beautiful fireworks on CNN with the launch of cruise missiles on Baghdad and Belgrade had, of course, a psychological effect, but there were never any real results in the form of defeating important, especially mobile, military targets.

What, besides this, remains with America, so to speak, “for the soul”? In fact, very little. The Americans, who always relied on the super-power ocean fleet, initially assigned the traditional land army a secondary role. So it was, so actually remained. The US Army is clearly not something that can be considered a serious threat to modern Russia. Fewer than a dozen deployed divisions and combat brigades, combined with the National Guard, which is very conditionally prepared (and mostly for the dispersal of demonstrations), and large, but already quite rusty, stocks of military equipment, to put it mildly, are not very impressive.

Americans in the period of their highest power did not attach any importance to this. Because they always and quite reasonably believed that cannon fodder for any land war they were plotting should be supplied by their numerous allies in all parts of the planet. So it was for many decades. But this mechanism, which worked flawlessly in those times when the global influence of the United States was indisputable, began to give noticeable failures as soon as it became clear to the same allies that Washington’s ability to control the world situation was far from limitless. This was especially vivid in the case of Ukraine, where the Americans, no matter how hard they try, cannot convince the Europeans to drag chestnuts out of the fire for them and for them. Europe this time is absolutely not eager to send its "big battalions" to the east at the whim of an increasingly decrepit America. And the United States itself, which is used to appearing for all the world wars only to divide production, clearly feel at ease and understand that they simply have nothing to replace the European cannon fodder.

Recently, the realization of this sad truth for Washington has begun to reach even before the American generals who had no doubts about their omnipotence. Who began to speak out in the sense that with all the wonders of military thought and the most remarkable achievements of digital hi-tech, the last word in the war always belongs to a simple soldier, whose foot is firmly in enemy territory. Russian soldiers (in this case it does not matter - Russian or Novorossiysk), in the opinion of the same Americans, now quite successfully confirm this eternal truth in the Donbas. Whereas America has no equivalent counter-arguments and, it seems, is not expected. In any case, aircraft carriers will definitely not help here.
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  1. -6
    3 February 2015 14: 18
    How much more will this topic be procrastinated ???
    1. +11
      3 February 2015 14: 23
      Quote: pomegranate
      How much more will this topic be procrastinated ???


      Until the Pentagon finally succeeds in begging Congress for a little more money. hi
      1. +1
        3 February 2015 14: 30
        Not only at the Pentogon, the message was made to NATO members. His dough for a cut is not enough.
        As usual, the farther into the forest the more appetites. I wonder what the geyropa will answer?
      2. +2
        3 February 2015 20: 41
        I believe that every thinking Russian should know this information! Therefore, you need to talk a lot about it! We must believe in ourselves. Crisis is a fiction!
  2. 0
    3 February 2015 14: 19
    how much the rope does not curl, but still the end will be ..
    No. No.
    1. 0
      3 February 2015 16: 27
      It is better to live in friendship with Russia, although Bardak Abramych does not understand. It may happen that while he chews his cud, from the USA he can get the Putin Canal, which will connect the Pacific with the Atlantic Ocean.
  3. +20
    3 February 2015 14: 22
    Once he explained to the geyropets where he lives. In the territory of the fire rampart. At first he laughed, then listened to the arguments, then he thought a lot, then he learned to swear. Itself.
  4. Rusin Dima
    0
    3 February 2015 14: 23
    Oh no wonder Vladimir Vladimirovich is arming our army. The Americans will think ten times before arming the Ruin and making money for the fifth point
    1. +3
      3 February 2015 16: 14
      Rusin Dima ..... Americans will think ten times before arming the Ruin and making money on the fifth point

      America organized the Ukrainian crisis not for the US-Russia war, but for the Russia-Ukraine war (under the roof of NATO). Therefore, he will do everything to drag Russia into this war.
      If, nevertheless, it does not work out (the Ukrainians will not provocatively climb into the Crimea), then until the last ukrovoyaks will support the hotbed of "military chaos" in Ukraine, even if the DPR and LPR secede, they will continue to arm and prepare the remnants of Ukraine for a war with Russia. Only a change of the Ukrainian government to a pro-Russian one can calm the region.
      If the Americans fail to fulfill their plan, deployment of their bases in Ukraine
      (in a country ally of the United States that they quickly cook up without accepting to NATO), then they will be satisfied
      and endless chaos in the region between the EU and Russia.
      1. 0
        3 February 2015 22: 03
        Alexander I completely agree with you, they (the USA) do not particularly hide that they are ready to fight with Russia until the last Ukrainian.
        Only sometimes I tell myself if this is a mantra that we ourselves sing, or maybe we are still mistaken in our predictions, and Uncle Sam really sharpens his teeth on our country and is ready for a direct blow.
        After all, whatever you say, but since the collapse of the USSR, our combat readiness has not declined steadily.
        minimum mobilization reserve (meaning a call to the Armed Forces for citizens who have undergone military training), the armed forces are in the process of re-equipping and replacing military equipment. Thank God at least they took up their heads and began to actively restore everything, but this is also a matter of more than one year, if you do it with feeling properly.
        My opinion is that on 21 of June 1941 of the year we were more ready for war than now, one is glad that the US military machine is very far from VERMAHT, and the fact that the Russians have not forgotten how to fight they already see in the example of New Russia
      2. 0
        4 February 2015 02: 26
        Quote: askort154
        it will suit them
        and endless chaos in the region between the EU and Russia.

        "Infinite" will not suit you. They have time before the introduction of the altyn)).
  5. +2
    3 February 2015 14: 24
    I completely agree that the United States is now unable to destroy Russia, without serious consequences. Therefore, they will repent. But we need to rally and prevent more traitors from coming to power.
    1. +3
      3 February 2015 17: 32
      Quote: Hronyaka
      But we need to rally and prevent more traitors from coming to power.

      I agree with the first - but the people will not rust with this!
      And about the second - it would not hurt to first drive them out of power. IMHO hi
  6. +1
    3 February 2015 14: 25
    If everything was so, then it would be very good. Let's hope.
    1. +1
      3 February 2015 15: 47
      Quote: konvalval
      If everything was so, then it would be very good. Let's hope.

      100%. somehow everything is too optimistic. By the way, I like to read science fiction. I got into the hands of S. Anisimov's book "The Day Before the Day After Tomorrow". realistic to eerie. I recommend uryakalka. and whoever says that these are inflamed delusions of the author, let Bobrov be respected, and they will look at the term of writing his book ...
      1. 0
        3 February 2015 22: 09
        I downloaded it, I’ll read it for sure.
  7. Roshchin
    +4
    3 February 2015 14: 26
    The Americans owe their success in wars and military conflicts of the recent period to a large extent not only to the AUG, aviation and cruise missiles, but also to the support of the fifth column inside the states that they wanted to punish, direct betrayal of senior officials or the entourage of the head of state, division and stupefaction of people by bought media. A striking example is Ukraine. No aircraft carriers were needed. This kind of weapon, preemptive air strikes, is already being used against us. So we need to fight not only on the battlefield, the ideological front will be no less important and effective. The war can be won by television.
    1. +5
      3 February 2015 14: 34
      TV can win the war.

      Children need to explain this all by themselves, methodically and constantly, so that they get it !!! I started with my wife (in life, she had a distant idea of ​​politics and our relations with the West, imposed on the country's population from the beginning of the 90s), now not only she, but also older children, in general, have the right attitude towards the West in general, and to the SGA, in particular!
      1. +2
        3 February 2015 15: 29
        Probably all the wives are far from politics, I even need my job, the director of the technical school, but she doesn’t want to go by herself, she brings up my words.
    2. +1
      3 February 2015 15: 25
      It is a pity you can’t plus two times.
    3. 0
      3 February 2015 22: 12
      You forgot to mention Georgia, which Soros, Moldova, Lithuania, Latvia and Kyrgyzstan bought up on the root.
      They very well accepted and learned to apply the old truth that a donkey loaded with gold will take the fortress much faster and cheaper than the best army
  8. +2
    3 February 2015 14: 27
    America has enough available core and "reckless" leadership to arrange a complete Armageddon on the entire planet. And these are not myths.
    1. +3
      3 February 2015 15: 03
      They will not. They have a very strong instinct for self-preservation compared to us. I am not talking about the countries of Islam.
      And they also don’t have our expressions like: “Well, to hell with him”, “It’s a waste of time”, “Maybe it’ll blow over”, “Whatever” and others, which always help us in critical situations. wink
      1. +2
        3 February 2015 16: 08
        the unbending trinity - maybe, maybe and husim!!! smile
        1. 0
          3 February 2015 22: 15
          perhaps this is an ancient Slavic deity. oh who are the other two?
  9. +2
    3 February 2015 14: 43
    So the moment of truth has come. A big war in Europe is impossible, because the European countries of NATO are completely unwilling to lay down their soldiers for the interests of the mattress.
    1. Alf
      0
      3 February 2015 20: 44
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      European NATO countries are completely unwilling to lay down their soldiers for the interests of mattresses.

      Is there a SOLDIER in a geyrop? There are only soldiers who fight only on simulators.
  10. 0
    3 February 2015 14: 47
    Psaki offers to sail across the North Pole
  11. 0
    3 February 2015 14: 49
    And the United States itself, which is used to appearing at all world wars only to divide the loot, is clearly not at ease and understands that they simply have nothing to replace European cannon fodder with.

    Here's the key phrase. Now, in practice, we are seeing this. The United States is in every possible way aggravating the situation in Europe, trying to push Europe against Russia. It will turn out to fan the fire, well, it will have its dividends from all sorts of lend-leases, etc., and then at the right time will "divide the booty". No, then the "cold" war will come down, too, not bad. Only now, unlike past wars, the United States is now the main instigators and arsonists. And if the sane politicians of all countries involved in the confrontation understand this, then the United States will fail. And all that is needed is political will, and the politicians who have it, such as De Gaulle, for example. And those are not yet observed in Europe (in real power). But after all they should appear, tk. Europe is already on the edge of the abyss, someone needs to save it.
  12. -4
    3 February 2015 15: 20
    Delivered an article minus, and here's why ...
    Well, let's remove the nuclear weapons and everything connected with it.
    Now we’ll figure it out, the United States, attacked Russia, by all the truths, but launched its own 10 cruise missiles, of which we destroyed 000% (for example), the rest of it all reached the target.
    Their Aviation and all-ship ships also reached the cherished goal of 20% of the destroyed targets.
    Now we consider the losses on both sides:
    The United States lost only military equipment, which write off and for candy wrappers will build a new one.
    Russia will lose civilians, infrastructure, factories, ports, military equipment.

    And now what will be the answer of Russia?
    How can we answer? Do we have bases near their borders? Do we have a fleet? What will we answer ???
    Note those, I do not touch the allies here, because here if you take NATO, then the United States will not have to be very smart. Well, from our side, the Chinese brothers can help, but I think the Islamists will not really mind building a plot against the USA, or maybe against us.

    In general, one should not think that the United States will not attack the Russian Federation if they are sure that the Russian Federation will not use nuclear weapons. Only nuclear weapons are holding them back! In the event of a war without nuclear weapons, the United States has more trump cards than the Russian Federation, it will be much more difficult for us to answer them :(

    That's why the article and minus, the topic is not fully disclosed.
    1. +3
      3 February 2015 15: 47
      Quote: Login_Off

      And now what will be the answer of Russia?

      The United States itself, of course, does not threaten the threat of occupation by the ground forces of the Russian Federation. Scarecrows and horror stories in the form of films and computer games (and their creators, by the way, should have questions) should be ignored in view of the complete absurdity and nonsense of the idea itself. Purely hypothetically - except perhaps Alaska, but this is at the level of fiction (it will require a very complicated landing operation + the US Navy, which will not spill such an opportunity). US pain points are located in completely different places - this is the Red Sea and the way out of it, this is Cuba, this is the Strait of Malacca and Taiwan, this is the oil field of the Arabian Peninsula. And, of course, this is Europe.
      And the loss by the Americans of their sphere of influence in Europe in such a situation is practically guaranteed. For all the countries in which American bases are located automatically fall under the crosshair, even of non-nuclear weapons. There and now the attitude towards them is far from the warmest, and in the hot phase armed excesses of the locals with the Americans are also possible. All that remains is to support their efforts and their own reputation as "polite". In the event that the nightmare of American geopoliticians - the economic union of Russia with Germany - comes true, the United States itself will quietly and peacefully turn into what it actually started with - a second-class island power.
    2. +3
      3 February 2015 16: 19
      Well, let's remove the nuclear weapons and everything connected with it.
      Now let's figure out the USA, attacked Russia
      If we are talking about the non-use of strategic nuclear forces on enemy territory, then in the event of aggression by the NGA and NATO, "other" options for using tactical nuclear weapons and aerospace defense are not so catastrophic for human civilization.
      by hook or by crook but launched its 10 cruise missiles, of which we destroyed 000% (for example) the rest of it all reached the target.
      Their Aviation and all-ship ships also reached the cherished goal of 20% of the destroyed targets.
      Well, the axes in the whole NAT something 5000? We have T72 in storage no less.
      Now we consider the losses on both sides:
      The United States lost only military equipment, which write off and for candy wrappers will build a new one.
      Russia will lose civilians, infrastructure, factories, ports, military equipment.
      I do not think that the loss of 80% of the sea, air and space fleets (we are talking about the military) is acceptable for the SGA. At the same time, they will not be able to achieve any strategic successes in the land operation under the conditions of the destroyed satellite constellation. In this case, the NATO bloc ceases to exist with a high degree of probability. (This is for those who want to "revise") A separate "bonus" for Mattresses - China - 1 in the world economy and 1 in the world is a military fleet. Total and allies of the Yankers in the Pacific Ocean - ay. And in such conditions, the abandonment of the dollar on a global scale is more than likely.
      Yes, the walk will not be easy... But where is that Rome now... (if it were not for the Pope, Carthage would be alive)
    3. +2
      3 February 2015 16: 20
      Quote: Login_Off
      The topic is not fully disclosed.

      and what topic is stated?

      Quote: Login_Off
      the most essential components of their military power.

      what their sea forces are

      We keep nuclear weapons in brackets, aviation at the airfields of foreign states is "a separate issue."
      The message was that it was difficult to fight remotely with the Russian Federation, and it became less effective to engage in direct combat contact. Or killed.

      To sum it up: the US cannot fight in a way that guarantees victory (they don't fight any other way), and their ally doesn't want to. Who is the lower classes and who is the upper classes is not so important, but the situation is unstable. smile
    4. +1
      3 February 2015 16: 34
      Delivered an article minus, and here's why ...
      Well, let's remove the nuclear weapons and everything connected with it.
      Now we’ll figure it out, the United States, attacked Russia, by all truths or not, but launched its 10 cruise missiles ..
      .
      Here you need to stop 10 thousand, this is not 100 or even 1000 of them you need to somehow hide, + they are subsonic, therefore, the flight time to strategic objects of Russia will be from 1 to 6 hours, depending on the coordinates, during this time Topol M from Bryansk to Moscow will reach. Let's not forget that Russia has intelligence: from "Stirlitz" to Sputnik. There are no hypersonic missiles yet, but this is a matter of time, but even the United States with its printing press will not pull it, even if it pulls: Russia has official and other surprises for the destruction of US-NATO facilities and it is not necessary to respond to a thousand missiles with a thousand, it can be less but more efficient.
    5. 0
      3 February 2015 17: 38
      Quote: Login_Off
      Now we’ll figure it out, the United States, attacked Russia, by all the truths, but launched its own 10 cruise missiles, of which we destroyed 000% (for example), the rest of it all reached the target.
      Their Aviation and all-ship ships also reached the cherished goal of 20% of the destroyed targets.
      I will not delve into the calculations of their penetrating ships and aircraft, cruise missiles and other things, we just read our military doctrine more closely and I hope that we understand that in this case the USA, as well as almost all its allies with American bases on their territory, receive an inevitable the strike by Russian nuclear weapons, and the goal of the strike is global destruction, because if this is not done, Russia will have no second chance. The military doctrine of Russia is not in vain available for acquaintance with everything on the planet, this is one of many elements of deterrence.
    6. UN-IFOR-SFOR
      +2
      3 February 2015 17: 47
      Indeed, a problematic and relevant issue was raised by Login_Off.
      Given that the American doctrine does not consider defense at all, but rather, interventions and a new tactic of a massive strike (up to 90 days in a row) with high-precision non-nuclear weapons against our nuclear arsenals and military infrastructure. T.N. strategy of the sixth generation of wars (let’s pass the fifth generation - nuclear).
      But..:
      1. Judging by the activity (methods, locations of units and subunits) of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, we anticipate this, we are working in anticipation and perspective (an example is the North, the Arctic, by the way as a possible bridgehead for a massive strike by cruise missiles).
      2. Many of our military technologies are no worse, and sometimes even superior, to American ones (the same high-precision weapons of different bases, air defense, electronic warfare, etc.).
      3. At the end of last year, we made changes to our Military Doctrine. Deterrence, active.
      4. The military industry is not standing still.
      Login_Off is right. We won’t go to the USA (we won’t sail). Not at all. Just hit.YaO.
      Between us, only a nuclear war is possible (meaningless, because the goal of any war is economic resources). Or a war "by someone else's hands", most likely on our territory (it’s unambiguously all of us proj..t), especially since the fronts were contoured: west, east, south. Downright pure geopolitics (sea-land, north-south ..).
      In general, it’s nice, finally, to speculate with knowledgeable and thinking people, especially on the topic (without pathos slogans).
  13. 0
    3 February 2015 15: 31
    Described great. The problem is that the PAST WAR is described. With the confrontation of armies and direct clashes.
    And if you ask a question on what (whose production) equipment the Russian communications (communication, television, Internet) and a bunch of technological processes are currently based on, including and hazardous industries, and then ask a question, what will happen with this whole economy at hour X - optimism will diminish.

    I am convinced that a lot of responsible people have long asked these questions for themselves and know the answers. And appropriate measures are being taken. Will we succeed ?.
  14. 0
    3 February 2015 15: 35
    Plus, of course, but you cannot defeat urapatriotism alone. And the Yankees will not risk a direct invasion.
  15. 0
    3 February 2015 15: 53
    As for the military, everything is clear.
    Who would reassure - wrote similar in terms of finance, economics.
    1. +1
      3 February 2015 16: 25
      and here you take any two economists and ask any - the other will always object and challenge the first !! winked

      Economics is the only science where a Nobel Prize can be awarded for opposing conclusions !!! (WITH)
  16. -1
    3 February 2015 16: 32
    it’s time to surf the submarine in the steppes of Ukraine, you see, and the 6th fleet will also be able to swim to the belly with faith in the same place
  17. +1
    3 February 2015 16: 38
    the most accurate way to check the quality and combat characteristics of military equipment is to take part in military operations with an EQUAL enemy
    everything else is advertising!
    and with advertising, the amers are still buzzing - everyone is doing their bit, and Hollywood and hack-writers-journalists and "experts"
  18. +4
    3 February 2015 17: 22
    The states themselves will not go to war with Russia, everything will be as usual, they will pick up all the trash of Europe. I just think the old countries of Europe are unlikely to want, with the exception of mercenaries. The Baltic states remain with Poland, I don’t know how things are in Lithuania, Estonia and Poland, but Latvia the army is a rabble, one battle-worthy battalion will really be gathered from strength, and the rest of the Latvian army is a rabble of downs !!!
    1. +1
      3 February 2015 18: 52
      Peoples who have fresh memories of the war will not go to war of their own free will.
      Only mercenaries remain.
      The United States itself did not feel a single destructive war and, therefore, the spirit of their soldiers (meaning as an aggressor) is weak, and in order for a soldier-aggressor to fully fight, either a huge financial incentive or fear is needed.
  19. +2
    3 February 2015 18: 02
    - Girl, how old are you?
    - Soon it will be 8, but for now four.

    So far they have not 10000 KR, but only 7000.
    And most of them are not in PU or suspensions, but in warehouses.
    Preparation of a massive attack will take several hours, not hours. Secretly impossible to do.
    The carriers — surface ships, submarines, bomb carriers — still need to go to launch areas.
    So the counteraction can begin long before the start of the first CD. And it is nuclear weapons. We believe that half will not be released.
    The rest will be dominated by missile defense and air defense.
    Of course, some goals may suffer. For example, the outfit of forces in Moscow will be such that a defeat is guaranteed. Well, they then only have a missile defense system covering the Grand Forks Air Base. With the rest we do what we want.
    When we are told that our ICBMs will penetrate any American missile defense system, it must be understood that most of America, and especially Europe) is not covered by any missile defense system at all. The chatter about THAAD and Aegis is for those who don’t understand the difference between the speed and trajectory of ICBMs and intermediate or shorter-range missiles.
    An attacking ICBM gives up to a million false targets. No Aegis will cheat.

    Well, also consider our rearmament.
    Rogozin said that by the 20th year we will have parity in precision weapons. And ours will be mostly new. And with their CD and ICBMs will occur zilch like what is now the Ukrainians with rotten Tochka-U. Exploded, it seems, only one.
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    3 February 2015 18: 03
    In the steppes of Ukraine, the aircraft carrier could well "take root", as did the "submarine" and "ancient ukr. S" take root ... Americans could borrow the know-how of ancient wheeled ships, they are a technical nation, or as an option, excavate the Black Sea wider and deeper than the ancient ukr ... laughing fellow
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      3 February 2015 20: 00
      Op-ppa ... Minus apparently set themselves for the lack of a sense of humor per se ..)))
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        3 February 2015 21: 46
        Psaki managed to drive a whole 6 fleet to the shores of Belarus, and then there was only one aircraft carrier in the Ukrainian steppes, or sorry, the Donetsk mountains ... It’s not at all a question ...: D
  21. 0
    3 February 2015 19: 04
    I'm not a military man, but I'm still interested. And why, in fact, no one is trying to explore space militarily?

    The USA without Russian engines cannot even put a piece of shit into orbit.
    Let's set up the orbital missile carriers! Such killer companions can incinerate the entire territory of the United States in a few minutes. And then in general it will be possible to spit on the American fleet.

    Am I the only such genius?
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      3 February 2015 20: 04
      Quote: Russian Hacker
      I'm not a military man, but I'm still interested. And why, in fact, no one is trying to explore space militarily?

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      Why nobody? Dual-purpose satellites have been flying in space for a long time, these are the same GPS and GLONASS. There are other programs of military space exploration, in addition, military space exploration is negotiated by international law with relevant restrictions ...
  22. 0
    3 February 2015 19: 09
    Because Americans needed Svidomo. The fascists who absorbed hatred of Russia with the sperm of S. Bandera.
    Putin said correctly, the Armed Forces of Ukraine-is a foreign legion of NATO, no one will spare the life of Svidomo.
  23. 0
    3 February 2015 19: 59
    Churchill: "I know a hundred ways to lure a bear out of a den, but I do not know any how to drive it back!"
  24. 0
    3 February 2015 20: 03
    There is something in the article that the Russian fleet is not appreciated at all, I think that not a single aircraft carrier will approach the coast of Russia, the Russian fleet has enough forces and means to sink them on the way, the fleet will not let you down ...
  25. 0
    3 February 2015 22: 58
    Let this America mix its omnipotence with its poop, and eat an ento dish! - There are no further words for comment !.
  26. 0
    4 February 2015 00: 06
    And I believe that everything is so. Some people asked questions — how many aircraft carriers did we sink? And not one, because they are like the elusive John from a joke to us. And during the time of their victorious hegemonism, they relaxed a little. But there is no need to even talk about ground forces. You look with whom the valiant striped army fought after the Second World War? With third world countries. Yes, and in the great war, nemchur pressed them in the ardennes and snot flowed ... In general, the main weapon of the United States is their money Jews.
  27. 0
    4 February 2015 09: 51
    In general, the Chinese should not have started digging a new canal in Nicaragua. Russia just needs to think about disposing of its nuclear weapons and at the same time make a new strait Pacific Ocean + Atlantic Ocean. Cheap and cheerful. And put the cost of building the canal in your pocket, and that's about 50 billion so far. The Chinese will be able to save money!
  28. -1
    4 February 2015 13: 32
    +1 for a positive article, but underestimating the "partner" is dangerous.