The Central Bank decided to make fun

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The Central Bank decided to make funSymbolic reduction of the key rate will not solve any problems of our economy

In Soviet times, this would be said as follows: heeding the requests of labor collectives, the state bank corrected a previously adopted erroneous decision. Would say, perhaps, something about made "organizational conclusions".

But new times dictate new rhetoric. Of course, no "organizational conclusions", of course, there can be no talk of admitting mistakes.

The Central Bank is our Pope, he cannot be mistaken, it is his actions aimed at improving our life that can be misinterpreted. Therefore, it is obvious that the hopes of those who expect the Central Bank to continue to listen to the requests of the workers and reduce the exorbitant discount rate still in vain.

Maybe it will, or maybe not, it will not be decided by the workers in any case. Today they have been prescribed another sedative in the framework of the approved anti-crisis program.

Minus two percent of the former seventeen beyond the limit are designed to calm indignant minds. It seems to be a trifle, but as if very encouraging. It seems like a trend.

And that the loans for production did not now become any more affordable - so are all the time costs. Like, not all at once, rejoice at least this.

In general, the persistence of liberal financiers, who do not even want to assume in theory that our industry can rise to its feet under gentle credit conditions, is truly shocking. This would be "conservatism", yes to good deeds.

Fighting speculators is a good thing, a good thing, but why should it lead to problems in the real economy? Or are 2% bargained really healthy?

The decision of the Central Bank to reduce the key rate by as much as two percentage points in an interview with the columnist KM.RU was commented by well-known political scientist, Chairman of the Development Movement Yuri Krupnov:

- This decision can be compared with the situation when someone carefully carefully blows dust particles from the back seat in a crushed car. It is clear that we are dealing with a kind of demonstration measure, which is designed to show that the government has a plan, and not a plan, and a cunning one, that the situation is controlled in the same way.

But last year we already know that all such cunning plans ultimately lead to devastating failures. And now we see the same thing, because in the situation of the policy pursued by the Central Bank, the real economy will continue to suffocate and these 2%, of course, absolutely do not solve anything. This step just tells us that essentially the existing policy will not change.

So, the decision taken is related rather to the field of psychotherapy, but not to the reality in which 146 of millions of Russian citizens reside today.

The problem of high stakes is monstrous in itself, while the former stakes were also prohibitive. The problem is that our economy is catastrophically under-monetised,

The central bank should not take money from the economy, and print them for specific projects. This requires that its leadership radically change its policy, its worldview, and finally come to understand its place and role in the Russian economy.

But for now we see only that the government is not going to change anything drastically. The pilot deliberately sent his liner to the rock with all the ensuing consequences.
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  1. +31
    3 February 2015 18: 15
    Well, until Nae ..... the ulina will be at the head of the central bank and Aifonchik at the head of the government will not see us raising the economy as our ears !!!! request
    1. +18
      3 February 2015 19: 13
      An example of a "correct" comment to a "correct" article. And the fact that the author kept silent, and the commentator probably did not know that the Central Bank lowered the key rate, and long-term loans are issued at the refinancing rate - which is now 8,5% - is not important. And the industry is credited almost exclusively for a long-term ... The main thing is to shout loudly "guard, we were robbed by the liberals from the Central Bank !!" Success will be assured ...
      1. scarp
        -1
        3 February 2015 19: 26
        industry credits almost exclusively long-term

        Do we have an industry?


        And nothing that in Japan there is industry and is subsidized, and the rate is 0.1? Go, my dear, to the nearest "Messenger" and get a loan for an iPhone, I guarantee you will be pleasantly surprised. Or try a loan now at 8.5 to replenish working capital.
        1. +28
          3 February 2015 19: 33
          And here is no fucking taking loans for all sorts of toys. And then they first buy an iPhone, and then "oh, but I have nothing to pay, I'm a single mother, go all nafig!" Yeah.
          1. +24
            3 February 2015 19: 42
            + + +
            Buying luxury items on credit (and everything that you are not able to buy without borrowing money is a luxury for you, except for housing, some medical services and a few other vital necessities) is an example of categorically stupid behavior, and I apologize to stupid consumers.
            1. avg
              +2
              3 February 2015 22: 15
              If someone does not understand why our rate cannot be low now, then you can’t explain anything to him.
              And about the current reduction in the Central Bank rate, the numbers will say better (for February 3.02.2015, XNUMX):
              The ruble to dollar exchange rate increased by 4.07% (Usd/Rub 65,1456 - 4,073%)
              The ruble exchange rate against the euro increased by 2.76% (Eur/Rub 74,944 - 2,761%)
              The RTS stock index added more than 5% (RTSI 786,69 + 5,480%)
              MICEX stock index about 2% (MICEX 1654,36 + 1,787%)
              Finally, some of our officials began to realize that not only small changes in the% rate, but even verbal (verbal) interventions can both expand and bring down the market.
              1. +1
                3 February 2015 23: 15
                oil is growing so everything is strengthening
                1. WKS
                  +6
                  3 February 2015 23: 49
                  The author simply scolded the Central Bank and everything, well, that is not obscene. But if the author told a little more, and how to do in this situation, then the author would not have a price.
            2. 0
              4 February 2015 02: 16
              Explain how with s.p. 20000, s.p. 6000 wife accumulate 1000000, and two more young children?
              1. 0
                4 February 2015 11: 31
                need to earn extra money, like most people. Living on a salary is not camille

                And if you look at how the Japanese work ...

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        2. +9
          3 February 2015 19: 45
          Well, what narrow-minded are you? but nothing that Europe prints 1 trillion euros? just? But nothing that the debt of Japan 2 GDP? What are you leveling up? we have yet to go from perestroika for one more year!
          1. +1
            3 February 2015 22: 54
            Yes, EBN and Co. heaped in due time.
        3. +1
          3 February 2015 19: 54
          you have NO and we have it!
        4. +4
          3 February 2015 23: 19
          What, we don't have industry? Open the respected reference book "Industrial enterprises of Russia" - you will be surprised!
      2. 0
        3 February 2015 19: 43
        By the way, I also wanted to highlight this moment. did not have time. good
      3. +2
        3 February 2015 19: 47
        and at their head Putin
        1. +4
          3 February 2015 23: 21
          Excuse me, who? Obama
      4. +1
        3 February 2015 19: 58
        Still you need not skimp on labels and mow under the Charles, obscene distortions.
      5. +7
        3 February 2015 20: 14
        Well cool! Finally agony ... In our city, with a run, was the construction of a rather large federal facility. The general contractor returned from Moscow as a described poodle. Apparently he did not know which banks he should go to, went to those with which he had an agreement on a loan. And there it is - 17%. And his profitability at least somehow comes out only at twelve. In general, the construction was covered by something painfully familiar. 8,5% ... Well, you have to ...
      6. +6
        3 February 2015 22: 09
        The Central Bank does not directly give loans to industrial enterprises, it works mainly with commercial banks, and they are already giving loans to industrial enterprises. enterprises that dare to take them from them. But here's another problem - the bulk of loans were short, not long, and the increase in the key rate still raised interest on the rest of the "loan products". In our country, banks generally do not like to give long-term loans. Therefore, it seems to me that you shouldn't brand the author with shame, he is right in essence.
      7. rll-777
        0
        4 February 2015 10: 02
        I would like to clarify what specific loans and to whom with a rate of 8,5% in question? In the city where I live, before the New Year, all banks raised rates for industrial enterprises to an average of 21 -22%. There are above. And the terms of these loans are by no means short. And a number of bank managers, people as if professional, generally express the opinion that the price of money has not yet been determined.
      8. rll-777
        0
        4 February 2015 10: 02
        I would like to clarify what specific loans and to whom with a rate of 8,5% in question? In the city where I live, before the New Year, all banks raised rates for industrial enterprises to an average of 21 -22%. There are above. And the terms of these loans are by no means short. And a number of bank managers, people as if professional, generally express the opinion that the price of money has not yet been determined.
    2. Denis fj
      +5
      3 February 2015 19: 29
      It seems that the president of Russia is striving to bring the country to pre-revolutionary well-being and efficiency when a merchant's word, rather than a signature, could make a deal. The desire, of course, is good, but it is clear that the government does not know how to do this, using consultants like Kudrin, who is the modern incarnation of Witte, who harmed the country at one time no less than Gaidar.
      The president needs a modern Stolypin, a patriot of his country, not a cosmopolitan. New Stolypin will then advise the government to take control of the Central Bank so that it (the government) can conduct pricing and lending to businesses in the interests of the nation, and not of private individuals.
      The bottom line: new tasks - new people corresponding to these tasks. The old cosmopolitan methods and their performers have outlived their usefulness and will not benefit the country; rather, harm. The old ones do not have to be "surrendered". Old leaders can retire with dignity and dignity. Leaving power can be difficult, but removing power is not difficult. The Constitution gives the President all rights for this.
      The president and the government must answer the question: who are "theirs"? A limited number of former and current associates or the entire people of Russia? For an honest person, the answer is simple: the whole people. The integrity of the state and its independence depend on him personally, not on Kudrin, Chubais, the Central Bank and Co. New wine cannot be poured into old wineskins.
      1. 0
        3 February 2015 20: 47
        Quote: denis fj
        The president needs a modern Stolypin, a patriot of his country, not a cosmopolitan.


        And Shoigu will pull two posts?
      2. +4
        3 February 2015 21: 57
        Quote: denis fj
        The president and the government must answer the question: who are "theirs"?

        I beg you ... Why should they be unfounded, and so everything is clear. For example, Rusty Tolik, he is still a son of a bitch. But as they say, our (their) son of a bitch. And about the furniture maker, I generally keep quiet ...
        1. +3
          3 February 2015 23: 45
          Classics of the genre...
      3. +5
        3 February 2015 22: 31
        Denis fj

        Denis, don't you think that the guarantor is simply afraid... of a new Stolypin? As in general, to bring the strong closer to oneself?
      4. 0
        3 February 2015 23: 30
        Interestingly, Kudrin, when he learned that Medvedev would not be president, refused to work in the government. And even more than anyone he dreamed of reducing the military budget to a figure hardly distinguishable from zero. And now again in advisers. Academician Glazyev, who seems to be an adviser to the president, says perfectly reasonable things, but they are not listening to him, but to Kudrin. The Central Bank does not obey either the president or the government at all. But it obeys the IMF and the US Reserve System. And on the eve of the crisis, the Central Bank "invited" one interesting organization to improve the Russian economy, which is known for destroying a couple of dozen economies around the world (those who wish can read it on the internet). And what, for Russia they will make an exception? The Americans sleep and see a coup d'etat in our country, and do everything to bring it closer.
        1. 0
          4 February 2015 02: 23
          WHO put the dash, have you even read to the end?
      5. 0
        4 February 2015 02: 21
        Putin has Glazyev, and cheat, but nothing.
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    4. +9
      3 February 2015 19: 33
      Who coined the term "floating rate"? I understand that this is when a little higher, a little lower, but the surface on which it floats is somehow there. At least as a kind of landmark. Traders cannot change the price tags every day, taking into account such a voyage. But what about production? Everything is done for banking geshefts and timely payment of tribute to the Fed. An organized crisis is the same war that its organizers and accomplices profit from. And the people suffer, as always.
      1. +2
        3 February 2015 20: 51
        Quote: siberalt
        Who coined the term "floating rate"? I understand this when a little higher, a little lower, but the surface on which it floats is somehow there.

        With us all this swimming consists in one process - once it has surfaced, it is floating. At the very top. Down already.

        Let us leave the biological side of the issue and its allusion with senior management. A simple and well-known example. The dollar swam, swam the 30-32 ruble, and then abruptly as a SPOP up to 70! Now again, the plaaaaaet ........
    5. Denis fj
      0
      3 February 2015 19: 37
      The Greek word for "economy" is Russian for "household". Maybe it will be better if the economists first clean up the snow at least in the yard? And then let them distribute how much to whom to scoop out of the boiler with a spoon.
    6. +1
      3 February 2015 20: 29
      As long as conclusions are drawn on the basis of our own narrow-minded conclusions, using the "correct" political scientists, specialists, articles, etc., we will not see an economic recovery.
      1. 0
        3 February 2015 20: 38
        Quote: Terner38
        As long as conclusions are drawn on the basis of our own narrow-minded conclusions, using the "correct" political scientists, specialists, articles, etc., we will not see an economic recovery.

        Many do not bother with any conclusions and do not even try to realize what's what, just shout:
        - Chef, everything is lost, everything is lost! The cast is removed, the client leaves ... I will kill him! laughing
        1. Fox
          Fox
          0
          3 February 2015 20: 45
          Quote: GRAY
          - Chef, everything is lost, everything is lost! The cast is removed, the client leaves ... I will kill him!

          Yes funny laughing and the funny thing is that he was right in principle, the mustache disappeared in the end laughing
          1. -1
            3 February 2015 21: 01
            Quote: Kettu
            Yes, it's funny, and the funniest thing is that he was basically right, everything went to waste in the end

            Nothing was missing from me, I just looked around - everything is in place. smile
            1. Fox
              Fox
              +3
              3 February 2015 21: 24
              Quote: GRAY
              Nothing was missing from me, I just looked around - everything is in place.

              We must pay tribute to you "troll" you are professional! laughing it doesn’t come out differently!
            2. +4
              3 February 2015 22: 07
              Quote: GRAY
              Quote: Kettu
              Yes, it's funny, and the funniest thing is that he was basically right, everything went to waste in the end

              Nothing was missing from me, I just looked around - everything is in place. smile

              It’s even easier for me ... There’s nothing to disappear. This is even some form of invulnerability. Someone is getting richer, poorer, happier, suffering, and I look at what is happening with Zen calm. And Shukshinskoe comes to mind - did not live rich, neher and start wink (sarcasm).
      2. 0
        4 February 2015 05: 52
        Quote: Terner38
        As long as conclusions are drawn on the basis of our own narrow-minded conclusions, using the "correct" political scientists, specialists, articles, etc., we will not see an economic recovery.


        In your opinion, it turns out that you step on the same rake all the time and burn yourself in milk. I believe that our government has already acted in shit and this time will be able to get around a new pile of crap.
      3. 0
        4 February 2015 05: 52
        Quote: Terner38
        As long as conclusions are drawn on the basis of our own narrow-minded conclusions, using the "correct" political scientists, specialists, articles, etc., we will not see an economic recovery.


        In your opinion, it turns out that you step on the same rake all the time and burn yourself in milk. I believe that our government has already acted in shit and this time will be able to get around a new pile of crap.
    7. -6
      3 February 2015 20: 50
      What does Nae ... bulin have to do with it? She herself is a pawn in the hands of skilled puppeteers who do not give a shit about Russia. And while all these Grefs, Chubais and the rest of the shellup pull the strings, the people will be impoverished, no matter how hard they try to !!!
      1. Fox
        Fox
        +7
        3 February 2015 20: 54
        Quote: Bone
        What does Naye have to do with it ...

        It is rightly said here current would try forgot to quote!
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    9. +7
      3 February 2015 22: 38
      Government anti-crisis program:
      -In the year before last, we sowed 10 hectares of oats, all ate aphids; last year, we sowed oats with 20 hectares, again aphids ate everything; this year I propose to sow 40 ha with oats, nehai damned aphids will choke!
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  2. +25
    3 February 2015 18: 17
    I got this centro bank, we need to analyze it, look at its actions, it wants to destroy our economy so that we have a beggar people. It feels like it works for amers, it’s just not getting into the head.
    1. UN-IFOR-SFOR
      +12
      3 February 2015 18: 33
      The Central Bank is exclusively ours (according to the Constitution), but independent (according to the same Constitution) is too much. Just shamelessly uncontrollable by anyone. Therefore, as he wants, so and so on. The Central Bank itself (as a structure) is the right idea, but its "drivers by hand" are just a disaster. And together with the Government, this is a double disaster (Medvedev and the word "liberal" are no longer just annoying - they enrage!). Because of impunity, everyone, comrades, and from "ours do not surrender," that is why you cannot see those who are worthy in power, they will not be allowed there. Change, so all in a crowd.
      One can only hope that the unpopular measures of the Central Bank are temporary and compelled.
      And I really want to see the guilty whole families, mining uranium or digging channels.
      1. +2
        3 February 2015 21: 34
        You forgot about the Higher School of Economics, there the rector is the husband of Nabiulina. and HSE is a hotbed of liberalism, from the word wild, and who will this Nabiulin hat be listening to? glazyeva for example? or husband? which as they say e .... t and feeds? It’s a pity that the library in Moscow burned down and not this HSE. there would be more sense.
        ps if there was still like in the house of trade unions all this liberal riffraff from the government, the Central Bank and the Higher School of Economics was burned, I don’t know, it would be like the second of May 9 for me. a great victory!
    2. Userpic
      +1
      4 February 2015 02: 38
      Quote: gryaznov.igor.
      I got this centro bank, I need to analyze it
      Repent with haloperidol - the problem will disappear.


      Quote: UN-IFOR-SFOR
      independent (under the same Constitution) is not in moderation.
      Can the head of the hospital departments be banned from carrying out their functions and powers without the approval of the head physician? And then also independent not in moderation.

      Just unscrupulously uncontrollable to anyone
      Really? laughing
  3. +17
    3 February 2015 18: 18

    To begin with, let's take the momentary essence of all these twitching of the Central Bank - I think many have already guessed that we are talking about giving money to "their" (and the adjoining medium-small riffraff) and cutting off "strangers" - in fact, this is the essence and essence of almost ALL actions the top of the Russian Federation for the entire time of its existence.
    With a sharp increase in the rate of "strangers" at the "entrance" they cut off, and "friends" are playing out today (count under a trillion, after all, you can't shove it up so quickly!). Now they need to cut off the "strangers" at the "exit" - not only cut them off, but also leave them at a loss in order to show their "heads" to the President and the public / crowd. If they succeed in this, well, then Gerashchenko raised / left a good shift and bred speculators. But not financial strategists on the scale of Russia - he himself, a good COMMERCIAL banker and their regulator, has never been a strategist, in the Central Bank of a normal country his ceiling was the position of head of management.
    Well, if they cannot do this, they are absolutely useless people for a "cooperative".
    Okay, let’s leave this occupation - counting other people's / (our) money, back to the country.
    The Central Bank’s step to increase the refinancing rate can and will be justified under the following conditions:
    - The Central Bank will conduct a massive foreign exchange intervention, stopping speculation that week,
    - the Central Bank rate in the 2-th half of January will be sharply reduced (certainly below 10%!)
    - The Central Bank will be provided with money to carry out massive readjustments / liquidations / mergers of commercial banks in the 1st quarter. 2015 (rubles are in sufficient quantity - they cannot but be! - but according to the current rules, the Central Bank cannot provide them - that is, finally, these same "rules" will have to be changed)
    - the remaining commercial banks will begin lending to enterprises (primarily industrial and agricultural) according to orders / decrees of the Government, in accordance with the approved development programs.
    1. 0
      3 February 2015 18: 34
      Quote: Novel 1977
      - the Central Bank rate in the 2-th half of January will be sharply reduced (certainly below 10%!)

      I would not be surprised if the rate will gradually decrease by 1-2 percent per month.
      Just a scent. smile
      1. +3
        3 February 2015 18: 49
        God forbid, but ceased to believe in miracles for a long time ....
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      3. +3
        3 February 2015 19: 41
        Duc. January is already over laughing What are you talking about?
        1. -1
          3 February 2015 20: 13
          Quote: siberalt
          Well, January is already over. What are you talking about?

          And February is not yet smile .
        2. 0
          4 February 2015 02: 30
          This is not the last January.
  4. +14
    3 February 2015 18: 18
    Raise the key rate - "economic destruction". Lowering the key rate - "the death of the economy" ... Gentlemen, experts -You really decide how something, huh? Well, it goes without saying that we will all die laughing
    But for some reason the latest disastrous examinations only evoke a persistent grin. And doubts about the competence of the "experts".
    1. +1
      3 February 2015 18: 52
      Got these experts! Yes, there are few economists among us, but if we do not cry about every occasion, then we will overcome any difficulties! (Sorry for the "high calm")
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    3. 0
      3 February 2015 21: 00
      Why do you think the US has been pursuing a policy of quantitative easing for several years, pumping the country's economy with cheap money?
      As far as I understand, in order to restore the real sector of the economy that suffered as a result of the withdrawal of production to China. And as practice shows, they managed to revive the industrial sector. You think there is a Russian monetary way to revive the economy. Way to them. Nabibulina and Ublyukaev.
    4. 0
      3 February 2015 21: 06
      You don't need to be an expert to understand that the ideal rate of the Central Bank is "zero" (0,5% - 1,0%, taking into account the costs of the Central Bank).
      Then commercial banks will be able to issue long loans to industry and agricultural at 2%.
      1. 0
        3 February 2015 23: 56
        The same non-experts who understood everything once under Yeltsin launched hyperinflation.

        The rate rises after inflation, and not vice versa. If you lower the rate, this will create extra money from the air, which will accelerate inflation. What will happen to you about hyperinflation?) The central bank panicked, so in one night it raised its rate so sharply, and they were afraid of hyperinflation.

        By the way, I will not argue that the Central Bank acts in the interests of the Russian Federation. There are still many liberalists left at state institutes who want to sell their country for the ghost of their personal bright future.
    5. +2
      3 February 2015 22: 00
      Quote: tanit
      Raise the key rate - "economic destruction". Lowering the key rate - "death of the economy" ...

      A stick is always about two ends.
      But, in fact, there is only one valid goal for lending - boosting the economy. There are only two ways to do this: lending to production and lending to demand. Both are not possible at high interest rates (perhaps by force), and at low, the risk of issuing ineffective loans and the formation of financial bubbles is high. There is between Scylla and Charybdis.
      And to fight inflation with the help of the interest rate, in my opinion, is stupid (so that the "liberals" do not assert on this), because the cause of inflation is not "cheap" loans. Too expensive loans lead to even greater inflation (the easiest way to compensate for rising costs is the price), remember at least the 90s.
      In my opinion, there is only one reason for inflation - the thirst for profit (greed)!
      You can create conditions ("rules of the game") that restrict the appetites of sellers to reasonable limits, or you can force to raise prices even generally not greedy people (they will have to compensate for the increase in costs in any way).
      The main cure for inflation, in my opinion, is sustainable economic growth with sufficient rates, if the economy grows insufficiently, it will not be possible to restrict inflation exclusively by market methods, and in a falling economy it cannot be stopped by any methods other than dictatorship and direct noneconomic distribution (military communism), although even so, it will still remain on the "black market", which will be mandatory (not to shoot everyone who tries to sell something on the spot). This is the provision (stimulation) of economic growth, in my opinion, and should be the main responsibility of the Central Bank (and the Ministry of Finance too), and all other goals are secondary, only as long as they do not contradict this main goal.
      By the way, making a profit cannot be a goal at all and even a reason for praise (moreover, an excuse) of the Central Bank, this is not a commercial bank. I think the leaders of the Central Bank should not be praised for this, but punished "for incomplete compliance ...".
      I think so!
    6. 0
      3 February 2015 22: 25
      Quote: tanit
      Raise the key rate - "economic destruction". Lowering the key rate - "the death of the economy".


      And what if there is one? smile
  5. +14
    3 February 2015 18: 20
    So, the decision taken is related rather to the field of psychotherapy, but not to the reality in which 146 of millions of Russian citizens reside today.


    I have to say right away that ordinary citizens of RUSSIA will pay for the tricks of the government of MEDVEDEV and the CENTRBANK.

    I cannot attribute today's difficulties to US sanctions because they affect mainly banks and oil.

    Bankers and oil oligarchs, as in any CAPITALIST STATE, shift all the costs of sanctions onto the population of RUSSIA...in general, we live happily....

    Today I received a letter in my mailbox demanding payment of contributions for capital repairs of the housing stock... heh heh, although capital repairs of my five-story building, as far as I remember, have not been carried out for several decades, and as I understand it, will not be carried out in the future.

    Another MEDVEDEVA robbery of the population of RUSSIA is in full swing ..... I think Putin knows about this very well.
    1. +2
      3 February 2015 18: 46
      In addition to the requirement to pay contributions for capital repairs, the post office and Sberbank also charge a commission, supposedly for service, in the amount of 15%. I don’t know about other regions, but in the Novgorod region this is the commission rate. And no one even asked us, ordinary workers, whether we want such “comfort” in the form of taking away “extra” money. fool
      1. +5
        3 February 2015 18: 53
        And no one even asked us, ordinary hard workers, but do we want such "comfort" in the form of taking away "extra" money .. fool


        what For me, a sure sign of the beginning of he-he machinations with the savings of citizens of RUSSIA are the next reforms with the pensions of citizens of RUSSIA... THERE ARE SO MANY incomprehensible things happening HERE that the devil himself would break his leg.
        1. 0
          3 February 2015 19: 46
          Personally, I’m still 23 years old until retirement, however, I will consider it to be a pleasant surprise after the above period. Honestly - I do not hope for the state in this matter and I create the preconditions for myself to receive income in retirement age.
          1. 0
            3 February 2015 20: 33
            It seems to me alone that it is time for the State Bank to have in the country?
          2. +3
            3 February 2015 20: 52
            I don’t want to upset you, but the last few days there has been persistent talk about raising the retirement age. Plus, during this time another 5 times pension reform will be done.
      2. +2
        3 February 2015 19: 02
        mail, Sberbank also take a commission, supposedly for service, in the amount of 15% ..

        The mail may be taken, but as for Sberbank ... The wife pays for the entire communal apartment through a bar code from a bank card using the terminal what need to ask.
        1. lg41
          -1
          3 February 2015 19: 36
          Processing Center of the National Payment Card System (NSPK) started processing the first domestic Russian transactions on MasterCard cards,. The first five banks of Russia began on January 30, 2015 to process part of domestic Russian transactions on MasterCard cards.
          This is one of the steps away from the American SWIFT system.
          1. 0
            3 February 2015 19: 51
            Do not confuse sour with long! what SWIFT ?????
        2. -1
          3 February 2015 19: 50
          nobody charges a communal apartment and taxes with a commission. even all sorts of small jars
          1. +1
            3 February 2015 23: 25
            nobody charges a communal apartment and taxes with a commission. even all sorts of small jars

            Yes you SHO, really what
            If I pay the fine (and other taxes) through an ATM or the Internet, then there really is no commission, but if through the cashier - unfasten the percentage and do not spoil it. This is in Sberbank, and in commercial commission from any payment and transfer.
      3. +2
        3 February 2015 22: 13
        [quote=Igor F.]In addition to the requirement to pay contributions for capital repairs, the post office and Sberbank also charge a commission, supposedly for service, in the amount of 15%...
        Yes, for such a commission, any Western capitalist will either strangle himself or strangle anyone else (depending on: 15% from him or him), in most cases they only dream of such profitability.
        And our bankers, with such a margin, still talk about some kind of inflation, as if they themselves were not involved in it virgin ...
    2. +7
      3 February 2015 18: 53
      The next robbery of Medvedev population of RUSSIA is in full swing .....

      An example from life. The brother-in-law has established the production of packaging. He takes loans from a bank for the purchase of raw materials. After the sale of goods, it is always extinguished early. In January, he applied again for a loan. The bank offered him a loan under wassat 74%. Robbery? Robbery! And this despite the fact that our esteemed said that the interest rate for small and medium-sized businesses will not increase. He said something, and the bankers laid big and fat on him.
      1. +1
        3 February 2015 19: 13
        Quote: Sma11
        The bank offered him a loan at 74%.

        If he needs an amount of up to 60 million rubles, then let him steer to Sberbank, where about 20 percent.

        Did he turn to these bankers or something? lol
        1. +1
          3 February 2015 23: 32
          the whole of January 25% and the review is sooooo long
        2. +1
          3 February 2015 23: 37
          If he needs an amount of up to 60 million rubles, then let him steer to Sberbank, where about 20 percent.

          We turned to Sberbank - 25% for 5 years, if the percentage is shorter, the percentage is greater from 27 to 32. Bankers will not miss hi.
          Did he turn to these bankers or something?

          These give at 1-2% per day angry .
      2. +1
        3 February 2015 23: 27
        So his business was recognized as large! Small business under a small percentage, large under a large!
        1. 0
          3 February 2015 23: 51
          So his business was recognized as large!

          Here’s a bastard, and hid from me that he is a millionaire angry .
          We'll figure out.
    3. 0
      3 February 2015 22: 04
      Quote: The same Lech
      So, the decision taken is related rather to the field of psychotherapy, but not to the reality in which 146 of millions of Russian citizens reside today.

      I have to say right away that ordinary citizens of RUSSIA will pay for the tricks of the government of MEDVEDEV and the CENTRBANK.
      ... The next robbery of the MEDVEDEV population of RUSSIA is in full swing ..... I think Putin knows this very well.

      For some reason (or why?), Vodka has fallen in price ...
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      2. +1
        4 February 2015 00: 14
        We will be drunk and happy drinks
  6. +1
    3 February 2015 18: 23
    Dill discuss the decisions of our Central Bank, apparently already preparing to become citizens of Russia, in connection with the death of the Ruins laughing
  7. +1
    3 February 2015 18: 30
    Quote: tanit
    Raise the key rate - "economic destruction". Lowering the key rate - "the death of the economy" ... Gentlemen, experts -You really decide how something, huh? Well, it goes without saying that we will all die laughing
    But for some reason the latest disastrous examinations only evoke a persistent grin. And doubts about the competence of the "experts".

    I am joining. Hde Specific proposals, and to be responsible for their words.
  8. +11
    3 February 2015 18: 30
    Evil is not enough !! blah blah blah we can’t do without a banking economy, damn it, they can’t do without us, but we can do it !!!
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  10. Second
    -6
    3 February 2015 18: 44
    Ruble real kirdyk! Glory to the oligarchy!
    1. 0
      3 February 2015 18: 48
      Quote: Second
      Ruble real kirdyk! Glory to the oligarchy!

      Well, why would it be so peremptory if there were kirdyk - they would switch to dollars like Zimbabwe.
      1. Second
        +1
        3 February 2015 19: 32
        Quote: GRAY
        Well, why so peremptory would be kirdyk

        The dollar was 35 rubles, now it's almost 70 rubles. 100% of the savings of Russian citizens have been robbed. Do you like it? I don't! In any normal country, a government that robbed its citizens like that would get a kick in the ass, and many would go to jail. It seems like everything is the other way around here...
        1. -1
          3 February 2015 19: 48
          Do you live in the US and use dollars and pay them?
          1. Second
            0
            3 February 2015 21: 21
            Quote: Xeueys
            Do you live in the US and use dollars and pay them?

            Man, apparently in your math school there was a count. With what I congratulate you ...
            1. -2
              3 February 2015 21: 31
              Man, you, apparently, need to go to Goodwin's brain.
        2. 0
          3 February 2015 19: 53
          Give an example of such a country?
          1. Second
            +1
            3 February 2015 21: 19
            Well, such a country, for example. Corruption to the wall. And they did much less harm than our oligarchs in the government.
        3. 0
          3 February 2015 20: 09
          Quote: Second
          The dollar was 35 rubles, now almost 70 rubles. 100% Savings of Russian citizens were robbed.

          So what? There were only two ways: either to sharply collapse the ruble to the very bottom - then you would have to print new bills and it would hit the population even more, but it would open up interesting opportunities for the state, such as buying up cheaper assets of domestic companies, or even completely seizing them (returning state property) and the oligarchs would not like it much smile ; or to stop currency fraud by raising the rate (which is done) with further financing of the financial and industrial sectors of the economy on unfavorable conditions for the state, but with less losses for the population (but you can shake money from oligarchs - they don’t like the first option smile ).
          1. Second
            -1
            3 February 2015 21: 24
            Now yours (and ours) laughing oligarchs finish the stabilization fund and the national welfare fund. Rubles are converted into dollars, dollars are taken out. Questions?
            PS Of course there is no other way.
            1. 0
              3 February 2015 21: 35
              Quote: Second
              Questions?

              There is a question:
              Uncle Vova called them on the carpet, what do you think, for what?
              1. Second
                +2
                3 February 2015 21: 54
                Quote: GRAY
                Uncle Vova called them on the carpet, what do you think, for what?

                Damn, do we generally have a law, order, civil society, courts, public institutions? Or has Uncle Vova replaced the whole law with himself long ago? What kind of Louis said there "The State is me!"? And then another Louis finished on the guillotine.
                1. -3
                  3 February 2015 21: 58
                  In general, I understand you. You are the bulge of tolerance. Welcome to ignore.
                2. 0
                  3 February 2015 21: 58
                  Quote: Second
                  ? Or has Uncle Vova replaced the whole law for a long time?

                  Uncle Vova does not replace the law, he simply makes offers that cannot be refused.
                  1. Second
                    +3
                    3 February 2015 22: 08
                    Quote: GRAY
                    Uncle Vova does not replace the law, he simply makes offers that cannot be refused.

                    Did he tell you that? Or have you heard somewhere? I would like to be more specific.
                    1. 0
                      3 February 2015 22: 19
                      I think so. You can think differently - nobody forbids you from this.
        4. -1
          3 February 2015 21: 05
          so the whining began, no one will live easier.
        5. -2
          3 February 2015 21: 18
          Second, I did not begin to minus you, but, apparently, in vain. You are not the second, but the last in terms of mental development. Your judgment is worthy of a schoolboy brought up by Yusiya. Forgive me for not calling you, as usual, all unfamiliar interlocutors, but in this case it is justified.
          1. Second
            +1
            3 February 2015 21: 29
            Yes, minus the health. Take the rubles to Sberbank and put them in storage there. And everything will be fine with you. You are smart.
            PS Do you pay money for nonsense or relatives in your Central Bank?
            1. -1
              3 February 2015 21: 41
              Yes, I'm smart. And you are a fool. And Western propaganda made you a fool. Those. you, according to "universal human values", are never to blame.
              If anything, my welfare directly depends on exchange rates, because I import prom. equipment of European manufacture. And now my income has decently declined. But I do not whine.
            2. -2
              3 February 2015 21: 47
              And I would also say that we have a shitty legislation. You would have to the wall for treason. Just do not say that you are a dissident, you probably do not know such a word.
              1. Second
                +1
                3 February 2015 21: 56
                Quote: Xeueys
                You would have to the wall for treason.

                Man, you really need a psychiatrist. hi
        6. -3
          3 February 2015 22: 09
          And you live for dollars or for rubles, I somehow didn’t notice on my hard-earned money that the dollar went up
          1. Second
            +1
            3 February 2015 22: 59
            Quote: RADIOACTIVE
            I somehow didn’t notice on my money that the dollar went up

            And no wonder. You're radioactive. good
  11. -5
    3 February 2015 18: 48
    And why this article on VO? Maybe the site made a mistake? request
  12. +3
    3 February 2015 18: 57
    Well, people - forgive me!!! I don't understand this circus (the Central Bank is a big circus), it's really not funny... Where else, except in the US, can GDP be calculated from the banking sector - banks are nothing more than loan money for the real sector (in the US - on the contrary, more than 50% of GDP is the banking sector and other financial institutions) .. so the question arises, why the hell should we save these banks if industrial production is not working or is dying??? What the hell do they need money for (the banks), money for production!!!! What the Bolshoi Circus is doing is nothing more than the deliberate destruction of the country's industrial potential, or what's left of it. How can its actions be assessed within the framework of the Criminal Code - either negligence (I think, after all, there isn't) or treason - I can't think of another article for these freaks... so as far as my memory serves me, the penalty for treason is 25 years - so to summarize, we can say - these scum from the government's economic bloc (including its head) and the head of the Bolshoi Circus - should be given 25 years of strict regime with confiscation of property (return confiscation for them to the Criminal Code). And then figure out who put them there... and for this we need an independent and real judicial system... in short, each of us needs to start with ourselves... not throw trash past the trash can, clean up the mess in the entrance OURSELVES and on this basis legally demand the same from our neighbors and then from the authorities of cities, regions and the government... let's start with ourselves and we can do everything... and it will be for us and for the Americans and for our surrogates who keep money abroad, etc., etc.... somehow, I think, that's it...
    1. -2
      3 February 2015 19: 39
      Quote: grog_bm
      Well people - sorry !!! I don’t understand this circus (the Central Bank is a big circus), the truth is not funny ... What, except in the USA, can GDP be calculated from the banking sector - banks are nothing more than loan money for the real sector (in the USA, on the contrary, more than 50% GDP banking and other financial institutions) .. and so the question arises: what is the best thing for us to save the banks if it does not work or the industrial production is bent ???

      And what have we already begun to give loans to the Central Bank? Something I have not heard of.
      One FIG takes all this production loans from banks, and it is those banks that will be allocated support funds that will give loans to enterprises operating in the real sector of the economy, and on favorable terms.
      At least that's how I understand it all.
  13. -5
    3 February 2015 18: 58
    There are no facts in the article, absolutely none. The only thing that has snapped up is the Central Bank by itself, the Central Bank is managed by the United States and other conspiracy theories. Again speculation on the topic of oligarchy (poor and rich). Yes, pounding, and where, in which country (the size of Russia) is communism, equality and fraternity in one bottle? Yesterday I listened to home-grown economists, they carry such nonsense, information from the finger, some speculation. We all already know what sucks. A game of switchman in its purest form, all, cheers, found a scapegoat. The Central Bank and personally Nabiulin are to blame. Okay, at least not V.V. Putin Where is the specifics?

    PS I'm not in defense of the Central Bank or anyone else there, no. But it’s just that this kind of article is under the order, on the whole Internet. And this leads to certain conclusions ......

    PS In the next thread about the "collapse" of the Belarusian economy, this is me, by the way ....
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    1. scarp
      0
      3 February 2015 19: 22
      I personally do not agree that the Central Bank is its own head.

      I also don't agree that my wife takes all my paychecks and also rummages through my stash (put aside for beer). No matter how much I give her, it's never enough. So why the hell is she such a wife?
    2. Userpic
      0
      4 February 2015 03: 40
      Quote: armored optimist
      His rights must be greatly curtailed
      Which ones? smile

      and he must be personally subordinate to the President
      Is it that which, in accordance with the 80th article of the constitution, determines the main directions of politics (including economic)? The one who represents and approves the head of the Central Bank, and then declares that the Central Bank is doing everything right? laughing

      but I must buy those in the west
      He decides when and how much money to print.
      And where is such nonsense written in the law? laughing

      anything and be unchallenged.
      Not - it's some kind of schizophrenia laughing
      Like adults ...
      Article 20.
      Chairman of the Bank of Russia:
      7) bears full responsibility for the activities of the Bank of Russia;
  15. +2
    3 February 2015 19: 06
    The Central Bank needs to be reformed, but for now it is an agent of US influence, and works for them ...
    1. scarp
      0
      3 February 2015 19: 20
      Disperse it in yenen. It is a pity, T. Paramonova is already retired. I think I could handle it. Then she managed for six months.
  16. scarp
    +4
    3 February 2015 19: 10
    I look at the activities of our government, the Central Bank, the Duma, ..., and I ask myself a question - do they really think that we, Russians, are idiots? Example (fairy tale):

    Japanese, American, European and Russian gathered to make a brick. Yes. Just a BRICK. FROM SCRATCH. It’s clear that you won’t make a brick without dough. We drowned everything on their banks. So, refinancing rates:

    Japan - 0.1%
    USA - 0.25%
    EU - 0.25%
    Russia - 17.5%

    They took loans. We bought carts, horses, horse feed, picks, shovels, clay, water, sand, firewood (the Russian is a bit more sp..l), imported Ketai stoves. Knead, burned. Now it's time to sell (to the great Ketai construction sites).

    The most important China comes to the market, looks, and is asking the price.

    Brick Price:

    Japan - 100 yen, 1 Sep
    EU - 1 oyro 25 cents
    USA - 1 buck 2 and a half dimes
    Russia - 115 rubles 51 kopecks

    Kitaes says, I got confused in your yens, bucks, rubles and euros, let's have one thing in one thread, well, according to tradition, in bucks

    It turned out a brick of Russian 1.5 bucks

    Kitaes says - you, ryusky, a fool of a fool, a drunkard and a thief, you can’t even make a brick, you fu

    Russian turnip scratched and thinks, maybe I really?

    And now we give the numbers. In dollars it’s not so scary. And in rubles it’s not fun. So:

    Took 100 cu Returned:

    Japan: 100 $ + 0.1% = 100.1 $ x 69.66 = 6702.69 rubles.
    EU: 100 $ + 0.25% = 100.25 x 69.66 = 6712.74 rubles.
    USA: 100$+0.25%=100.25 x 69.66 = 6712.74 rub.
    Russia: $ 100 + 17.5% x 69.66 = 8220,3 rubles.

    That is, our native brick is more expensive than a foreign one and a half pieces.

    ps if anyone else is lucky to grab a loan at 17.5 per annum, fly on, cheaper laughing
    1. 0
      3 February 2015 19: 54
      Quote: Scarp
      Took 100 cu Returned:

      Japan: 100 $ + 0.1% = 100.1 $ x 69.66 = 6702.69 rubles.
      EU: 100 $ + 0.25% = 100.25 x 69.66 = 6712.74 rubles.
      USA: 100 $ + 0.25% = 100.25 x 69.66 = 6712.74 rubles.
      Russia: $ 100 + 17.5% x 69.66 = 8220,3 rubles.

      Actually, with arithmetic you don’t really. At your rate, $ 100 is 6966 rubles, not 6700. Yes, and for rubles a little less is obtained. Kosyachok!
      1. scarp
        0
        4 February 2015 09: 59
        Yes, I haven’t got along with arithmetic since high school. But this is not the point. The bottom line is that 17.5% is greater than 0.25%. So, at what rate would you prefer to take a loan for production, at 17 for a year or at 0.25 for 10 years?
    2. 0
      3 February 2015 21: 28
      Quote: Scarp
      Brick Price:

      Japan - 100 yen, 1 Sep
      EU - 1 oyro 25 cents
      USA - 1 buck 2 with a half dime
      Russia - 115 rubles 51 kopecks

      I don’t know overseas, but where did you find such a brick? Our first-class kiln brick is sold for 21,5 rubles, fireclay (refractory) 27 rubles! And if you were sucked in at 115,51, it means that Ostap Bender is alive and full of energy!
      1. scarp
        0
        4 February 2015 10: 02
        Let's assume that the aforementioned "partners" are not going to make bricks, but, say, sewing thongs. The difference is what. Just for example, in numbers, and, a brick is somehow safer than a thong looks. laughing
  17. +7
    3 February 2015 19: 10
    But I am tormented by another question, as they say, back to our "rams" ie the relationship between oil prices and the impact of these prices on the ruble. When oil fell sharply, the ruble fell into the trail at the same rate, and this explained everything that happened. QUESTION: oil is actively growing, why is the ruble not actively growing against the dollar !? Moreover, when oil began to grow, the ruble continued to fall in price, and now, although it is gaining, but somehow reluctantly, there is a feeling that the people are doing a favor. And as previously written, the feeling is strengthened that we are all cool on .... here and we draw conclusions that it is not the external but the internal enemy that is terrible from him, more troubles and misfortunes.
    1. scarp
      +2
      3 February 2015 19: 17
      There is a rule verified by comrades with ABF - if you feel that you are on .. yum, then you are still on .. yut.
  18. +2
    3 February 2015 19: 13
    In general, the mortgage rate for the population is reduced to 13 percent. This is below the refinancing rate. And this is not a chatter. And industry is financed in other ways - through government orders. The official rate is PR for the West.
    1. scarp
      +2
      3 February 2015 19: 19
      Generally on Compensation 20 billion rubles were allocated for the mortgage from the budget. And this is not a chatter. But should someone put 20 billion in the nightstand? The official rate is p..c to the Russian economy. And for a long time.
  19. +6
    3 February 2015 19: 20
    Read the anti-crisis "plan." How much dough are given to banks and how much industry. Banks are all-industry kopecks. And where will we go with these archibes? Yes, nowhere. Only words and words again. No responsibility at all. Do what you want, anyhow the country was bad. O tempora, o mores.
  20. 0
    3 February 2015 19: 22
    The Central Bank plays according to American rules, and in modern times this means that he is an enemy of Russia.
  21. 0
    3 February 2015 19: 27
    According to Nabiulina and Medvedev, the resignation has long been crying!
    1. Fox
      Fox
      +1
      3 February 2015 19: 51
      Quote: Million
      According to Nabiulina and Medvedev, the resignation has long been crying!

      The resignation of the "scapegoats" alone will not achieve anything, the disease has been launched to the utmost, there is a need for "surgical intervention" laughing lustration almost the entire cabinet, a couple can while hold on, all of "we eat Russia" and most importantly uncle wow!, ideally, of course, it would be to lustrate everyone who voted for them, but I'm real laughing until we pull the drain!
      1. 0
        3 February 2015 20: 19
        Quote: Kettu
        You won't achieve anything by simply resigning the "scapegoats", the disease has been neglected to the point of no return, "surgical intervention" is needed here, the lustration of almost the entire cabinet of ministers is on everyone's lips today, a couple can be held back for now, the whole "we're eating Russia" and most importantly Uncle Vova!

        It is possible to put the entire government in one garbage can, but from this a competitive industry will still not appear. tongue
        1. Fox
          Fox
          -1
          3 February 2015 20: 28
          Quote: GRAY
          It is possible to put the entire government in one garbage can, but from this a competitive industry will still not appear.

          So, so, why does it appear? For example, children are clear why, but what about her? Please enlighten me! Oh yeah, it's not polite to stick your tongue out Yes
          1. -5
            3 February 2015 20: 57
            Quote: Kettu
            So-so and from what it appears here are the children, for example, it’s clear from what, but what about it, please? Oh yes, it’s not decent to show the language

            The main factors here are certainly a favorable financial climate and state support. Now the climate is in trouble and in the near future no improvement is expected, therefore there will be no new enterprises - here we would have kept the old ones. The government seemed to stir, but it was too late - enterprises had to start subsidizing five years ago, but now it will be more expensive.
            1. Fox
              Fox
              +2
              3 February 2015 21: 19
              Quote: GRAY
              The main factors here are certainly a favorable financial climate and state support. Now the climate is in trouble and in the near future no improvement is expected, therefore there will be no new enterprises - here we would have kept the old ones.

              laughing that is, judging by your words, the mythical "financial climate" does not depend on who sits where sits?, that is, here you can already use the "chief truncated" you mentioned ?? laughing
              Quote: GRAY
              The government seemed to stir

              Oh, come on to God, they just "sit" combed it!
              Quote: GRAY
              but too late

              You are just like the one in the picture (in the center) laughing never too late !, late then when already in the grave!
              1. -3
                3 February 2015 21: 54
                Quote: Kettu
                that is, judging by your words, the mythical "financial climate" does not depend on who sits where sits ?,

                So.
                It is no secret that the Russian economy rested on the sale of energy resources, and this is precisely why no one was engaged in industry, they say what for it is needed if there is oil - we’ll buy the rest. At the current oil price, there will be no previous profits and all that remains is to spend the accumulated reserves.
                And this situation does not depend on the composition of the government.
                Although ... Zhirinovsky could. I believe in him smile .
                Five "Topols" in Saudi Arabia and oil prices will be as before.
                1. Fox
                  Fox
                  +3
                  3 February 2015 22: 00
                  Quote: GRAY
                  And this situation does not depend on the composition of the government.

                  U with you understand hi
  22. +3
    3 February 2015 19: 47
    Quote: Averias
    There are no facts in the article, absolutely none.

    Do you want facts? Please. I repeat one of my comments.
    "The work of the Central Bank will be assessed by investigators and prosecutors
    According to Nezavisimaya Gazeta, on the eve of Black Tuesday, speculators were given almost $ 5 billion at 1% per annum. Representatives of the Central Bank are not yet ready to respond meaningfully to criticism of his actions on the eve of December 16, when the ruble collapsed to record lows. The leadership of the Central Bank is accused, in particular, of distributing almost $ 5 billion to commercial banks on the eve of this day at just 1% per annum. The Federal Security Service (FSB) and the Prosecutor General's Office are already beginning to investigate the circumstances of the scandalous devaluation of the ruble. And the deputies are asking to involve the Accounts Chamber in the investigation. "From the Public.ru mailing list.
    And the rest, a beautiful marquise, all is well, all is well.
  23. 0
    3 February 2015 20: 02
    I don’t understand much in the BIG economy, but even less understand those who portend a catastrophe both from the concept and from the reduction in the interest rate ... we would have agreed that it’s good that bad ....
  24. +2
    3 February 2015 20: 07
    The bazaar power of economists trained in the United States, it would be better if a cook or shoemaker ruled the state
  25. 0
    3 February 2015 20: 45
    The economy, like the constitution, was written to us by foreign "partners". They were created for the colonial system that we have been building for the past 25 years under the strict guidance of the Zionists and Anglo-Saxons. Whatever we do within the framework of this model, the people will not benefit. Because the model itself is anti-national.
  26. 0
    3 February 2015 21: 27
    In many ways, the author is right, many on the forum probably support his conclusions. But the point is that the power in the country belongs to the oligarchs, and it is they who determine the vector of development of the country's economy. And the government provides them with legal opportunities to do their own unrighteous, in fact, business underpaid people working at their enterprises, and the budget in the form of tax has the minimum from them at which state can feel a little decent. They were so eager to get into the WTO that they did not even bother to pronounce themselves decent rights (an analogy with the desire of Ukraine to Europe). As a result, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation became an affiliate of the IMF and is subject to the rules of the IMF. And whose interest does the MPF observe? This is no secret, hence the entire investment policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which actually turns the lion's share of the budget into IMF funds, of course not directly! Even some Western economists in the current conditions are laughing at the toothless policies of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, directly indicating that it is time for him to cancel the rules of the game imposed by the IMF (read the USA).
  27. 0
    3 February 2015 21: 55
    I think the title of the material is inaccurate: "The Central Bank decided to mock." The Central Bank scoffs at the citizens of Russia by the very fact of its existence.
    1. 0
      3 February 2015 22: 05
      Quote: ava09
      I think the title of the material is inaccurate: "The Central Bank decided to mock." The Central Bank scoffs at the citizens of Russia by the very fact of its existence.

      I propose to switch to in kind exchange. fellow
  28. -1
    3 February 2015 21: 58
    Interesting about the central bank, the hidden truth:

    http://novorossia-novosti.com/rossiia-mojet-primeniat-iadernoe-oryjie-evgenii-fe
    dorov-2 /
  29. +2
    3 February 2015 21: 59
    Unclear. And where is the best person in the world of the year. God-like lamp and hope of Russia alpha and omega President? Does not see? Does not know? Does not understand? Or ... it's scary to think .... how are they deceiving Him and not afraid ...
  30. -2
    3 February 2015 22: 49
    In the summer, everything is stabilizing, but now we need to work.
  31. +1
    3 February 2015 22: 56
    The pilot intentionally sent his airliner into the rock with all the ensuing consequences.

    That's right: why should he (HER) be afraid? He has a guaranteed "golden parachute"! .. The same Glazyev has long ago assessed the level of "professionalism" of the current Central Bank! But who hears him? Not to mention the opinion of the people.
  32. 0
    3 February 2015 22: 57
    The central bank should not take money from the economy, but print it for specific projects.


    I agree ... But doesn’t this need to nationalize the Central Bank and amend the Constitution of the Russian Federation?
  33. +1
    3 February 2015 23: 08
    It would be better if we thought what to do with mass layoffs.
    For one vacancy in Moscow - 1000 applicants. Fact.
    1. -2
      3 February 2015 23: 17
      Quote: Bystrov
      For one vacancy in Moscow - 1000 applicants. Fact.

      Lies.
      https://rabota.yandex.ru
      1. 0
        3 February 2015 23: 26
        Quote: GRAY
        Quote: Bystrov
        For one vacancy in Moscow - 1000 applicants. Fact.

        Lies.
        https://rabota.yandex.ru

        Lies? I was laid off. Simply because the "last" one came to the company. Today I was interviewed at several companies. There they "shared", which is 600-900 responses for one vacancy.
        1. 0
          4 February 2015 09: 19
          Quote: Bystrov
          Lies? I was laid off. Simply because the "last" one came to the company. Today I was interviewed at several companies. There they "shared", which is 600-900 responses for one vacancy.

          You are welcome to the employment center. Are you a lawyer? laughing
  34. +2
    3 February 2015 23: 17
    Quote: pazuhinm
    nobody charges a communal apartment and taxes with a commission. even all sorts of small jars

    Indeed, only the post office, if you pay for electricity through them, takes a small percentage, therefore it is better directly through "ELECTROSBANK" or SBERBANK.
  35. 0
    3 February 2015 23: 53
    The Central Bank is essentially the domain of the US Federal Reserve in Russia and it is necessary to get rid of this phenomenon by nationalizing this institution. IMHO
    1. 0
      4 February 2015 10: 07
      For such thoughts a ghoul regularly minuses me. laughing
  36. -2
    4 February 2015 00: 29
    The author is trying, taking advantage of the low awareness of the layman, to tighten the mantra that the Central Bank of Byak and the beech government are all-inclusive. Finance is a delicate matter.
  37. 0
    4 February 2015 02: 10
    Generally persistence liberal finansistov..Eto not persistence, and the execution of instructions and the Fed nigger to stifle Rossii.Ob is already much has been said, written, but violate the instructions in any case impossible.
  38. 0
    4 February 2015 03: 51
    The previous reduction of the Central Bank rate is nothing more than a way back. If it is reduced sharply, the ruble will immediately collapse, but a gradual reduction may work. So there is no need to think that the Central Bank is sitting. Now oil has become a little more expensive, so it is quite possible that there will be a small reduction in the rate again. I think so...
  39. 0
    4 February 2015 04: 17
    The fifth column in action .... As we see even here ..
  40. 0
    4 February 2015 17: 38
    The Central Bank is the enemy, the government is the enemy, the liberals are enemies, not counting those external to the onc ...
    Can we stupidly "bred"?
    And who is the friend?