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Day of the defeat by the Soviet troops of the German fascist troops in the Battle of Stalingrad

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72 a year ago - 2 February 1943 of the year - ended one of the bloodiest battles in stories of mankind - the battle for Stalingrad, which established the understanding that for the Nazi invaders and the entire Third Reich, the countdown began. The units that opposed the Red Army on the banks of the Volga, including soldiers of the German, Romanian, Hungarian, Croatian, Italian and Finnish armies ("volunteer" detachments), were surrounded and defeated. For the great Stalingrad feat 125 fighters were awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union. Four more Red Army men received the title of Hero of the Russian Federation for their military exploit in Stalingrad years after the great battle - already in the 90 and the beginning of the 2000.


Day of the defeat by the Soviet troops of the German fascist troops in the Battle of Stalingrad


In Russia, February 2 received the official status of the Day of Military Glory on the basis of a presidential decree of the model 1995 of the year. On this day, Volgograd becomes the center of celebrations dedicated to the liberation of the city from the Nazi evil, aiming to make the Volga breakthrough and access to the oil-bearing regions of the Caucasus while simultaneously cutting off the south of the USSR from its central territories. The break of the Soviet infrastructure and access to Caucasian oil, according to Hitler, were to become the defining point of the future "victory" over the Soviet Union and instill confidence in the German fascist units, which the Red Army taught a stern lesson near Moscow.

However, the plans of the brown command were not destined to become a reality. Neither bravura talk that the enemy’s army was close to defeat, nor attempts to saturate the territories adjacent to Stalingrad with new and new units, nor the presence of thousands of artillery pieces, mortars, helped tanksself-propelled guns aviation, not a thousand award crosses from the "Fuhrer."

Turning the city into ruins, leading targeted bombardments and shelling not only of strategic infrastructure facilities, but also of the private sector, Hitler's heralds tried to report on the “fact of victory” on the Volga and transfer this “good news” to Berlin, where they once again ran ahead, broadcasting reports that the city is about to fall, or "has already fallen."



Naturally, no reports of the genocide of the local population, no reports of the atrocities of the Nazi soldiers and officers. Although such reports could not have appeared by definition, after all, the war itself against the Soviet Union was represented by the ideology of Nazism as a war of the "exclusive German nation against the Eastern barbarians-communists." Surprisingly, after decades in the Western press, materials can be found that during the Battle of Stalingrad from the Soviet side "the overwhelming majority of the Communists" died. What is it? Attempt to veil the fact of genocide, covering it with the fact that, say, the war was precisely with communism and its main followers? Based on the facts of today, when historical facts are misrepresented in order to diminish the role of the Soviet people in the liberation of the peoples of Europe from fascism, such publications look like links in the same chain.

In 2013, in the German edition Die junge welt material appeared under the title: "Die Kommunisten fielen überpropor im im Kampf”, Which can be translated as“ the Communists killed in the battle were many times more. ” That is, the newspaper deliberately focused on the deaths of the Communists, and the fact of the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and ordinary fighters who had nothing to do with the party and its political slogans is consciously ignored.



In the German press, the state’s press, which claims to condemn and will condemn Nazism, it’s not how the Nazi army actually wiped the city off the face of the Earth and led the systematic destruction of its inhabitants, but what kind of “German soldiers” experienced. At the same time, the soldiers of the Hitler army are no longer regarded as invaders of the Soviet lands, they are almost the main sufferers. The Germans are discussing the "woeful" letters of the soldiers of the Third Reich, in which there are words about the horrors of war, about the shelling from the Russians, about hunger, encirclement, but there is not a word about repentance, about the fact that they themselves stepped onto the banks of the Volga, pursuing outright misanthropic goals



German publications present interviews with German citizens about their perception of the Battle of Stalingrad. In the overwhelming majority of cases, the Germans express words of pity for precisely those whom the Red Army defeated in Stalingrad. There are words of admiration for the courage of the Soviet people, but these words emphasize something like the following: “what else did Stalingradites who lived under the yoke of the communist regime still have?” This again speaks of an attempt to put an equal sign between Nazism and communism, and the Great Introduce the Patriotic War as the apogee of ideological confrontation and no more.

German engineer Thomas Edinger:
The battle of Stalingrad is like a black abyss to me. She swallowed a million boy soldiers.


An employee of the German clinic Eric Kleines:
My heart contracts when I imagine the nightmare of the soldiers sent to the eastern front. I read the memoirs of our officers who were stationed at Stalingrad. Painfully…


However, live witnesses of the Battle of Stalingrad and its participants remain in Germany. These people, who were themselves in the Stalingrad hell, warn modern Germans not to make sufferers from the representatives of the Wehrmacht army. From the interview of the interview correspondent "AIF" with the Wehrmacht soldier Dieter Birz, who participated in the storming of the Mamayev Kurgan.

Dieter Birz:
The Fuhrer ordered Stalingrad to be wiped off the face of the earth, and I saw how our planes bombed not only plants with train stations, but also schools, children's gardens, trains with refugees. (...) My colleagues, mad with anger, killed indiscriminately - the wounded and the prisoners. I was injured on September 15, I was taken to the rear. Lucky: I did not hit the Stalingrad cauldron. Until now, many historians in Germany differ in the estimates of Field Marshal Paulus, who "surrendered" the Sixth Army. I think Paulus was wrong about one thing: you had to fold weapon 19 November 1942 of the year when his group was surrounded. Then he would save the lives of hundreds of thousands of soldiers.


However, this opinion today is rather an exception. In a fashion of juggling the facts and twisting the history of the Second World War. The perversion of the actual course of military history fertilizes the soil for the growth of neo-fascist ideology. Our task - the task of the descendants of the warriors who fell in the battles of the Great Patriotic War - to do everything so that the memory of the war and the atrocities of the Nazi invaders, did not give the misanthropic ideas a single chance.



Eternal memory to those who defended Stalingrad, defended the Fatherland!
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  1. Omskgasmyas
    Omskgasmyas 2 February 2015 06: 30
    37
    Then the Debaltsevsky cauldron arrived in time for a glorious date.
    Once in the Donbass, our grandfathers smashed the Army Group South Ukraine, and now they are smashing units of the ukrovermacht in the boiler.
    Tradition, however.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 2 February 2015 07: 51
      29
      In the current environment, a distortion of the outcome of World War II, Russia needs to make a long overdue decision to restore the heroic and historical name of the city - Stalingrad, instead of the faceless Volgograd, smelling of the abandonment of its historic Victory, of the heroic deed of the Stalingraders.
      1. hedgehog in the fog
        hedgehog in the fog 2 February 2015 08: 24
        11
        nothing is forgotten, no one is forgotten, eternal glory and memory of the great heroes of the great war ..
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 2 February 2015 09: 03
          +4
          Glory and respect to all those who defended Stalingrad from the Nazis! good Thanks to them, we did not become the eastern colony of the Third Reich. soldier
          1. panfil
            panfil 2 February 2015 09: 28
            +9
            Our ancestors won at Stalingrad. We must win now. Eternal memory to the fallen and eternal glory to the heroes!
            1. Vorlon
              Vorlon 2 February 2015 17: 52
              0
              We owe it to many people for this victory. The people who died surrounded by the 41st (allowing us to regroup), the people who stopped the fascist scum, near Moscow. In Stalingrad, everyone, including workers (who assembled the tank and immediately enlisted as volunteers, led tanks to the enemy). And on the Kursk. To all those people who gave their lives (no matter at the front or in the rear), for the victory over the decay of mankind.
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      2. nimboris
        nimboris 2 February 2015 10: 31
        +1
        I also THINK ABOUT THIS, THE IDEA IS WALKING IN THE AIR, IT IS TIME TO MAKE LIFE BUT HOW HOW MOST VOLGOGRADEVS NEED TO ASK.
        1. Siberia 9444
          Siberia 9444 2 February 2015 15: 09
          +3
          But then imagine asking a Volgograd and what city do I live in STALINGRAD! Personally, I am for the name of the city to be called this way it is our story (very bloody and terrible) BUT THIS IS OUR story and you can’t forget then we are all worthless !!!
    2. dsf324rdg
      dsf324rdg 4 February 2015 06: 25
      0
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  2. Makarych
    Makarych 2 February 2015 06: 30
    37
    Today is the day of military glory of Russia. 72 years of the end of the Battle of Stalingrad. Eternal memory to the heroes of the Great Patriotic War. Low bow for their feat.
  3. strelets
    strelets 2 February 2015 06: 40
    +9
    A bright memory to everyone who fought against fascism!
    We were with my family on the Mamaev Kurgan, used the services of a guide: startling figures, an example of great courage, reverence for soldiers.
    I believe that all students during the holidays should be transported to Volgograd, St. Petersburg, Sevastopol, Moscow, Minsk, it would be nice to go to Kiev and Odessa. You must know and be proud of the history of your country!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2015 06: 55
      13
      The grandfather said: survived there, miraculously, two wounds. and Koenigsberg then took no scratches ... soldier
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 2 February 2015 08: 44
        +5
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        ed said: survived there miraculously, two wounds.

        I had an uncle both there and there. He was also wounded in Stalingrad, and also cost in Koenigsberg ...
  4. Turk
    Turk 2 February 2015 06: 41
    +7
    Low bow to you WWII Veterans. Eternal Glory!
  5. Name
    Name 2 February 2015 06: 42
    13
    Eternal memory to those who defended Stalingrad, defended the Fatherland!
  6. Denis
    Denis 2 February 2015 06: 42
    17
    In a fashion juggling facts and distorting the history of the Second World War
    Western pseudo-historians say that the turning point in the war was anywhere, in Malta or in Africa am
    Lied!
  7. avvg
    avvg 2 February 2015 06: 48
    15
    It is necessary to return the names of the city of the hero of Stalingrad, to the 70th anniversary of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War, for the sake of the Heroes - the Defenders of Stalingrad. GLORY TO THE DEFENDERS OF STALINGRAD! ETERNAL MEMORY!
    1. sannych
      sannych 2 February 2015 08: 21
      +4
      In the past year, it seems like progress has been outlined, they have already started talking about the city referendum. That's all, as before - Stalingrad only on holidays.
    2. 34 region
      34 region 2 February 2015 18: 09
      0
      In my opinion, such polls have already been conducted more than once. The answer is far from unambiguous given our enlightenment with 90s civilized people.
  8. andrei332809
    andrei332809 2 February 2015 06: 50
    +8
    THANKS to fathers and grandfathers for their feat!
    be silent for a minute on the dead soldier
  9. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 2 February 2015 06: 52
    +7
    Happy Holidays, all fellow countrymen!
  10. Sergey Vl.
    Sergey Vl. 2 February 2015 06: 53
    10
    Every century Russia sets the brains of Europe and indicates the true values ​​to the next generations of its inhabitants. But then "the eye becomes blurred", the brain shrinks, a parallel reality appears, and the next batch of "students" is prepared for the brutal education of reality. God forbid, of course, but the Russian army took Berlin twice, and the Trinity is present in everything. Forget the lessons of history, incl. Stalingrad, nobody is allowed!
    1. Cheshire
      Cheshire 2 February 2015 07: 20
      +2
      Unfortunately, you are completely right, especially about the Trinity. (((.
    2. 34 region
      34 region 2 February 2015 18: 16
      0
      This is whose phrase was, Where the Russian flag was raised, should not be lowered! That's how where the Russian flag drops, there the katavasia begins. We can’t lower our flag for the future. From this, all of our disasters occur. The flag is raised and life is calm. As soon as they lowered, the night begins over the Dikanka farm!
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 February 2015 06: 54
    +4
    Remember, mourn!
    The Great Victory of the Great People!
  12. Teberii
    Teberii 2 February 2015 07: 01
    +3
    We remember and honor the memory of all who gave their lives for our future.
  13. 3axap
    3axap 2 February 2015 07: 04
    +4
    Eternal memory to those who defended Stalingrad, defended the Fatherland! I read the article, and caught myself thinking. After all, I wasn’t there for a reason. While driving, I looked out of the train window and didn’t touch it live. In Moscow, I visited Poklonnaya, I went around all the museums with history, In Belarus I was not only on the Stalin line. Small Earth. Sapun Gora. And here is nearby, a neighboring region. It somehow didn’t feel good. I give myself a vow. This summer with my grandchildren and of course with my grandmother, we will go to Volgograd, and then to the sea. Although this word, or rather the name of the city of Stalingrad, sounds more historically true . hi
  14. brasist
    brasist 2 February 2015 07: 07
    +4
    My dad was giving the "Hans" snot here too.

    Honor and glory to veterans !!!
  15. valokordin
    valokordin 2 February 2015 07: 09
    +4
    What authority was the authority of the VKBb and Stalin, how our warriors rallied together by political workers in the name of the Motherland, showing true patriotism. I represent Hitler's slogan - a campaign against the liberals and democrats, who are now ready to surrender us with giblets. Yesterday I saw on television the 1st deputy prime minister how he got on his noodles and everything is folding, but the most important thing in his anti-crisis plan is all the difficulties at the expense of ordinary people and God forbid the reduction in the income of directors and bankers. So our country is still at the beginning of the Battle of Stalingrad.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 2 February 2015 18: 18
      0
      Quote: valokordin
      What authority was authority at the WKB б and Stalin

      Do not worry, there was authority (singular), and you have: authority + authority = two authorities (plural). The letter "b" in the name of the party should have been "quoted".
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 2 February 2015 18: 28
      0
      Quote: brasist
      authority at VKBb

      Don't believe me? Then take a look at the photo. The word "Bolsheviks" is in quotation marks.
      1. ICT
        ICT 2 February 2015 21: 20
        0
        (Bolsheviks) brackets
  16. Leonidych
    Leonidych 2 February 2015 07: 18
    +5
    it's time to arrange the Battle of Stalingrad to the remnants of the Leberasts and shit, along with the 5th column ....
  17. Private IITR
    Private IITR 2 February 2015 07: 30
    +4
    Do not forget the history of the Fatherland
  18. vitalm
    vitalm 2 February 2015 07: 45
    +4
    Battle of Stalingrad - Volgograd. Will the city be renamed or not? Veterans of V.V. Putin asked, who knows
    1. PV-Schnick
      PV-Schnick 2 February 2015 10: 14
      +2
      Volgograd is one of the poorest cities and we don’t have money to rename it. Although they have a conversation every year, Stalingrad is called the city on February 2, May 9 and August 23.
      1. PV-Schnick
        PV-Schnick 2 February 2015 19: 26
        +2
        another June 22 and September 2
  19. valokordin
    valokordin 2 February 2015 07: 58
    +1
    Quote: vitalm
    Battle of Stalingrad - Volgograd. Will the city be renamed or not? Veterans of V.V. Putin asked, who knows

    Stop it, not 37, but there is progress, on holidays Volgograd will be called Stalingrad.
  20. Belgam
    Belgam 2 February 2015 08: 03
    0
    To demand from the Germans that they do not have compassion for their ancestors is, in my opinion, nonsense. We are not wedging our great-grandfathers for the Russo-Finnish war. I’ve fought my fellow there, and when I think about that war, for some reason I don’t feel compassion for the finals, although by conscience they became a victim of our aggression. Peace to the fallen, Glory to the victors!
    1. VADIMKRSK
      VADIMKRSK 2 February 2015 19: 19
      0
      Both grandfathers began with the Finnish ... That unobtrusive war ... But after no one thought of objecting to the Red Army! Until the summer of 1941. All of Europe went on another campaign against Russia. Yugoslavia alone fought to victory. And in the Winners recorded France ...
  21. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 2 February 2015 08: 06
    13
    Among the medals of the ancestors, I also keep the medal of my great-grandfather "For the Defense of Stalingrad" hi Remember proud soldier
  22. Magadan
    Magadan 2 February 2015 08: 20
    +8
    Guys! Today is Motorola’s Birthday! Happy Birthday to you Warrior Arseny Pavlov !!!
  23. igorka357
    igorka357 2 February 2015 08: 33
    +4
    Stalingrad is our story ... the story of the military valor, stamina and courage of our soldier !!! Forgetting it or not passing it to posterity, like death !!!
  24. exiv200gt
    exiv200gt 2 February 2015 08: 45
    +4
    Quote: vladimirZ
    In the current environment, a distortion of the outcome of World War II, Russia needs to make a long overdue decision to restore the heroic and historical name of the city - Stalingrad, instead of the faceless Volgograd, smelling of the abandonment of its historic Victory, of the heroic deed of the Stalingraders.

    Keep!
  25. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 2 February 2015 08: 47
    +6
    In Stalingrad, his father became a communist and an officer.
  26. Nayhas
    Nayhas 2 February 2015 09: 07
    11 th
    Stalin in 1943 made a serious mistake, instead of further developing the attack on Rostov-on-Don, they threw all their forces into the destruction of the army surrounded by 6 ... The surrounded Germans did not have the opportunity to independently break out of the boiler because there was neither the strength for this nor the means. Tanks without fuel, soldiers frostbitten and hungry ... Either they would surrender by the summer, or they would all die of starvation ...
    After all, cutting off the entire southern grouping would have received a huge cauldron where more than one army would be "cooked" ... For the Wehrmacht, such losses would be irreparable ...
    1. Russian Uzbek
      Russian Uzbek 2 February 2015 09: 33
      +3
      Stalin was generally opposed to encirclement ... but Rokosovsky and Eremenko promised him to destroy Paulus "in a month", the reason for this is an error in determining the number of surrounded troops - Rokosovsky, for example, estimated the number of encircled troops at 90000 people, as a result, 90 were taken only prisoners, and the number turned out to be more than 000! to leave behind a grouping of a quarter of a million ?! dubious option ...
      of course now you can write about a "serious mistake" while sitting on the couch, but then this option seemed quite logical
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 2 February 2015 11: 36
        -1
        Quote: Russian Uzbek
        the real number was more than 250! to leave a quarter of a million in their rear ?! dubious option ...

        After the attempt to break through the boiler failed, it became clear that Paulus’s troops alone could not get out, the most important thing was that the equipment didn’t have fuel even to cover such a distance, not to mention the conduct of hostilities.
        Deprived of almost any connection with the outside world, enemy soldiers and officers were not only mostly morally suppressed, but also physically extremely exhausted by a prolonged hunger strike. Surrounded also lacked ammunition and fuel. ... the outer front of the circle moved 300 kilometers or more from the inner ring ...

        This is from the memoirs of A.I. Ereenko. "Stalingrad: Notes of the Front Commander"
        To develop an offensive after the defeat of the Germans near Kotelnikovo was quite real, about which the same Eremenko A.I. wrote in his diaries. Advancing along the right bank of the Don, advancing on Rostov, thereby cutting off the four German armies from the supply ...
        1. Aleksandr72
          Aleksandr72 6 February 2015 18: 28
          0
          I think it will not be superfluous to recall that it was only February 1942. The Red Army, after a year and a half of war, and a year and a half of the hardest defeats, retreated first to Moscow in 1941, then to the Caucasus and the Volga in 1942, just learning how to fight. What you are proposing could have been successfully carried out by the Red Army of 1945, which successfully smashed the Wehrmacht, who knew the joy of victories - this drug of a real warrior, making him fearless and invincible, not afraid to advance, leaving behind half-surrounded enemy groupings. With a certain degree of success, this operation, regardless of the size of the enemy, could be carried out by the Red Army of the 1944 model, led by commanders who felt the taste of victories, and not just the bitterness of defeat. But we have never been able to do this by the Red Army of the beginning of 1943, which did not have experience in operations aimed at encircling and decisively defeating the enemy, an army that had not yet learned how to advance without glance and smash any enemy. This required the successful victorious Kursk Bulge, the crossing of the Dnieper, the liberation of the Left-Bank Ukraine, and finally the Bagration operation. The Red Army still had to learn to win a whole year, an endless bloody year of war. And she and the Soviet generals learned how to fight.
          I have the honor.
      2. Lindon
        Lindon 2 February 2015 15: 58
        0
        Quote: Russian Uzbek
        Stalin was generally opposed to encirclement ... but Rokosovsky and Eremenko promised him to destroy Paulus "in a month", the reason for this is an error in determining the number of surrounded troops - Rokosovsky, for example, estimated the number of encircled troops at 90000 people, as a result, 90 were taken only prisoners, and the number turned out to be more than 000! to leave behind a grouping of a quarter of a million ?! dubious option ...
        of course now you can write about a "serious mistake" while sitting on the couch, but then this option seemed quite logical


        Should you listen to this Rokossovsky and Eremenko surrounded Paul in spite of Stalin? Rave. First, learn how to write correctly the name of the Victory Marshal "Rokossovsky".
        The operation was lowered by the Supreme Headquarters - Rokossovsky, Eremenko and others performed the task that they were assigned. Later, everyone attributed this operation to themselves, from Zhukov to Khrushchev. In fact, the operation was developed by Bet.
        1. Russian Uzbek
          Russian Uzbek 2 February 2015 17: 23
          +2
          not in spite of! Stalin was opposed to encirclement operations for various reasons, Zhukov mentioned this more than once in his "Reminiscences and Reflections" a catastrophic scenario for the Germans (as a result of the rampant flight of the "allies" covering the flanks and the lack of reserves to parry the offensive) and the actions of Hitler, who prohibited withdrawal due to political goals, made the catastrophe practically irreversible
          "" "Later, everyone from Zhukov to Khrushchev attributed this operation to themselves. In fact, the operation was developed by the Headquarters.
          All strategic operations were developed by the Headquarters and the General Staff! only TWO (2) people participated in the development of ALL strategic operations: Zhukov and Vasilevsky
          1. Lord of Wrath
            Lord of Wrath 3 February 2015 00: 58
            -1
            Quote: Russian Uzbek
            Zhukov's "Memories and Reflections" speaks about this more than once

            Zhukov has a lot of things "said." Zhukov, while just once again laid down the divisions near Rzhev.
            1. Russian Uzbek
              Russian Uzbek 3 February 2015 08: 43
              0
              Well then read Rezun-Suvorov! or Sokolov ... they certainly have everything correctly and accurately written ...
              1. Lord of Wrath
                Lord of Wrath 3 February 2015 11: 17
                0
                Quote: Russian Uzbek
                Well then read Rezun-Suvorov! or Sokolov ... they certainly have everything correctly and accurately written ...

                You see, it is Zhukov who is personally to blame for the tragedy of 1941. Namely, with the disposition of troops ready not for defense, but for attack and with the order "not to open fire"
                And I don’t know how Rezun’s is, but my grandfather received the Order of the Red Star, when something like nothing happened on the fronts. And after much prying and searching, it turned out that the famous Bagration operation had been launched 4 times. And after it, it was the only case in the whole war, we had fewer tanks in the army than the Germans
    2. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 2 February 2015 10: 09
      +1
      Quote: Nayhas
      Stalin in 1943 made a serious mistake ...

      The Germans are a serious enemy and, as it could be, one should not guess. The Germans knew how to fight.
      Quote: Nayhas
      For the Wehrmacht, such losses would be irreparable ...

      But no?
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 2 February 2015 10: 46
      0
      Quote: Nayhas
      Stalin in 1943 made a serious mistake, instead of further developing the attack on Rostov-on-Don, they threw all their forces into the destruction of the army surrounded by 6 ...

      There are two subtle points.
      Firstly, intelligence underestimated the number of Germans in the boiler. Therefore, it was believed that the encircled group would be crushed quickly.
      Secondly, logistics. :)
      Our group, assembled to attack Rostov, was supplied with a single railway line. And to add new forces to it was useless - the rear was barely able to cope with the supply of existing ones. It came to the formation of motor vehicles using captured equipment with captured drivers. To increase our strength, it was necessary to remove the traffic jam from communications - the Paulus encirclement. Only after that it was possible to restore the Stalingrad railway junction and establish supply.

      In principle, the only alternative to the Red Army could be the conduct of "Greater Saturn" without pulling apart the group to repel Manstein's unblocking strike. But here and from the side of the Germans all sorts of options are visible: for example, they could "mirror" our "Little Saturn" - by the threat of a breakthrough of the front at Stalingrad with access to the communications of our strike group to force our command to again use the forces of "Big Saturn" against Manstein.
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 2 February 2015 11: 56
        -1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Firstly, intelligence underestimated the number of Germans in the boiler. Therefore, it was believed that the encircled group would be crushed quickly.

        Here, in my opinion, it is clearly far-fetched. On the liquidation of the boiler rate allocated three! army ... Not too much?
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Secondly, logistics. :)

        Logistics in the war always interferes, wherever they fight ... ravines, then slush, they often blame their failures ...
        It is important to understand that the moment for the development of the offensive along the right bank of the Don was suitable. The Germans suffered significant losses, they have nothing in reserve. Eremenko notes that there was no threat in the Tormosino area as the rate suggested, i.e. there are no obstacles to attack Rostov.
        It is clear that Stalin preferred the tit ... but what was the crane ...
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 2 February 2015 13: 03
          +2
          Quote: Nayhas
          Here, in my opinion, it is clearly far-fetched. On the liquidation of the boiler rate allocated three! army ... Not too much?

          The headquarters did not allocate, but reassigned the Don Front to 3 armies, which were already in place and had previously participated in battles. You can look at Isaev's in "Stalingrad" - what kind of armies they were. The average number of divisions, EMNIP - 4-4,5 thousand. We had to compensate with artillery and tanks - and then in 3 days of the offensive, the number of tanks was halved.
          Quote: Nayhas
          Logistics in the war always interferes, wherever they fight ... ravines, then slush, they often blame their failures ...
          It is important to understand that the moment for the development of the offensive along the right bank of the Don was suitable. The Germans suffered significant losses, they have nothing in reserve. Eremenko notes that there was no threat in the Tormosino area as the rate suggested, i.e. there are no obstacles to attack Rostov.

          So the southern front of Eremenko in early January 1943 and so began an offensive on Rostov and Tikhoretskaya. And he ran into the Viking and the 17th Panzerdivision, which were also supported by the Tigers 503 and 502 TTBN. The Germans reduced the front and pulled back to the supply bases. As a result:
          Parts of the mechanized group of P.A. Rotmistrov conducted stubborn battles during the 24th, 25th and 26th of January and suffered heavy losses both in personnel, and in the material part and artillery. By January 30, tank formations of the 2nd Guards Army were already on their last legs. As of this date, the 3rd Guards Tank Corps had 9 tanks and 350 personnel in service, the 5th Guards Mechanized Corps — 8 tanks and 1000 “active bayonets”, and the 2nd Guards Mechanized Corps — 8 tanks and 2000 men. Four separate tank regiments totaled 24 tanks.
          (c) Isaev
          And as for the supply, this is what Rotmistrov writes:
          ... there was an acute crisis in the supply of troops with ammunition and especially with fuel. The army bases were very far from us, at a distance of 350-400 kilometers, and the front-line ones were further away. They remained in the same places where they were when the Stalingrad Front existed, and could use the Stalingrad-Tikhoretsk railway, which our corps was also far away, to transport everything necessary for the troops.

          Can. Of course, blame it on memoirial exaggerations, but in real life by January 14, the main striking force of the Southern Front - Rotmistrov's mechanic group - was left without fuel. Eremenko planned to spend 3 days to replenish the reserves, and they wanted to supply fuel by air. In reality, Rotmistrov went forward only on January 19, with:
          Since the fuel crisis was not overcome, P.A. Rotmistrov created a detachment of 8 T-34 and T-70 tanks, 5 armored vehicles, 9 armored personnel carriers and 200 machine gunners to break through to Bataysk.
    4. Volodin
      2 February 2015 13: 50
      +3
      How is the classic ...
      "Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side"
    5. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 3 February 2015 17: 16
      0
      Quote: Nayhas
      Stalin in 1943 made a serious mistake, instead of further developing a blow to Rostov-on-Don, they threw

      Again Stalin is to blame? But you would ... oh-oh-oh, how would you give! The forces of the Red Army at that time were only enough to reach Morozovsk. In 2009, in the summer, I went to my relatives in the Rostov region through Volgograd (pah for that Khrushchev name!) On my old Orbit, so I measured the road with wheels and in favorable conditions (not counting the money sucked by the gibbons). So I myself was driving and saw the distance!
  27. ZAM
    ZAM 2 February 2015 09: 22
    11
    Almost regularly in the Volgograd news, you hear something like this:
    "During the construction of a house, road, etc., human remains, a bomb from the Second World War, shells, etc. were found."

    And hundreds of graves in the vicinity ...
    Reading the names on the monuments, it is most likely NOT to find a nationality whose representatives would not be in these lists ...
    Just marvel at the scale of this battle ...
    The kingdom of heaven to all who perished for their homeland ...
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 2 February 2015 09: 54
      +1
      Quote: ZAM
      Just marvel at the scale of this battle ...

      Only a few people survived from the battalion in which the father fought. The units were, said, perished to the last and were completely replaced by new fighters. He did not like to talk about war.
      My father wanted to go to Stalingrad after the war, but it was not fate.
    2. begemot20091
      begemot20091 2 February 2015 09: 54
      +4
      the war is not over until the last fallen soldier is buried.
      the boiler of Debaltsovsky boiled - the descendants of the defenders of Stalingrad did not shame your honor, grandfathers, fathers. we do not need Berlin, but Nuremberg is ahead.
  28. mik667
    mik667 2 February 2015 09: 54
    +5
    My grandfather, Stepan Andreyevich, was wounded in Stalingrad in 1942.
    Eternal memory to HEROES !!!!
  29. infantry76
    infantry76 2 February 2015 09: 57
    +4
    STALINGRAD

    November 1942th, XNUMX
    our offensive began
    on the Stalingrad front.

    We fell asleep with the thought of you.
    At dawn, we turned on the speaker,
    to hear about your fate.
    You began our morning.

    In the cares of the day dozens of times in a row
    clenching my teeth, holding my breath,
    we kept saying:
    - Take courage, Stalingrad! -
    Your suffering went through our hearts.
    Hot blood flowed through our blood
    the stream of your inconceivable fires.
    We so wanted to shoulder to shoulder
    and take on at least part of the blows!

    ... And all the time I remembered the night
    in one distant collective farm, not rich,
    the night before the first plowing, in the thirtieth,
    second Bolshevik spring.
    Gradually, importantly, joyfully and strictly
    collective farmers were preparing for the morning,
    with a dream of a new life,
    new system
    with deep faith
    into a new, common work.
    Their novelty is immeasurable, alarming,
    still scared ...
    But the people kept repeating:
    - The Stalingrad tractor will help us ...
    - Stalingrad will send us its horses.

    No, not on the walls of buildings and factories,
    damned enemy, you bring your hand:
    you encroached on the love of the people
    you swung at the bastion of dreams!
    And the big farmers got up, got up,
    how warriors they came here
    so with the working class of Stalingrad
    save the darling of the working land.

    What was scary this summer
    they will also tell: the song is waiting for the singer.
    In our siege, below the line of the ring,
    everything was illuminated by the Stalingrad light.
    And looking at your ruins
    (oh, these pictures are in Pravda and Izvestia!),
    we forgot our burdens
    we prayed for one thing: - Revenge, revenge!
    And the hour struck. The first blow hit
    from Stalingrad the villain backs away.
    And the world gasped, learning what loyalty means,
    what does the fury of believing people mean.
    And we were not surprised, no! We knew it,
    what will be like this: half a month ago
    not for nothing soldier's oath exchanged
    two brothers: Stalingrad and Leningrad.
    Beautiful and harsh is our joy.
    Oh Stalingrad,
    in the hour of your wrath
    take a bow from Leningrad,
    from the army and his citizenship!
    (O. Berggolts)

    Eternal Memory and Glory to the heroic defenders of Stalingrad! Death to fascism!
  30. PV-Schnick
    PV-Schnick 2 February 2015 10: 07
    +6
    Tsaritsyn-Stalingrad-Volgograd!
    1. nimboris
      nimboris 2 February 2015 10: 34
      +1
      MANY MANY KNOW, BUT FORGOTTEN.
    2. exiv200gt
      exiv200gt 2 February 2015 12: 21
      +4
      I was at Mamevoi Kurgan last year, I drove a car with my family, although I live in the Altai Territory. For everyone should not only know his story, but also see live. An indelible mark leaves this place on man, pride and patriotism mixed with sadness and tears.
  31. Gray 43
    Gray 43 2 February 2015 10: 31
    +3
    My grandfather began to fight in Stalingrad and I am proud that he offended the "poor Germans", it is a pity that their veterans do not share their impressions with their descendants, so that they do not step on the same rake, although, it will be more accurate, they are not allowed to tell the truth, so how now in the West it is beneficial to rewrite history "upside down". Glory and eternal memory to the defenders of Stalingrad, the city where the back of the fascist beast was broken!
  32. Yuri from Volgograd
    Yuri from Volgograd 2 February 2015 10: 44
    +2
    Today in the kindergarten all the children at the parade and in caps! It’s a pity I don’t get to the matinee, the beginning of the month, meeting ...
    And the title photo by the way is almost online!
  33. ando_bor
    ando_bor 2 February 2015 10: 57
    +5
    An uncle fought in Stalingrad, a pontoon at the crossing, in the Dubovka area. He said: “On February 2 we celebrated the whole victory, and we buried the commander, the day before I went to Stalingrad I can pick up something from the captured equipment,” the sniper took off. And he was buried a few years ago, on the same day. I will remember.
    Kingdom of heaven to the defenders of the Fatherland.
  34. dmb
    dmb 2 February 2015 12: 18
    +1
    Even on a holy day, one cannot help but indulge. Moreover, the author does this more than competently, trying to separate the Communists from the rest of the people. Yes, the Germans fought with socialist Russia and the order for the execution on the spot of the commissars was not in vain issued. And the Communists in Stalingrad en masse., Not for benefits and privileges. And we won because we were a single Soviet people, who fought including for those values ​​that socialism gave him, and not the notorious tsar-father. For the last more and more Shkuro with Krasnov advocated.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 2 February 2015 13: 49
      +1
      Quote: dmb
      And we won because we were a single Soviet people, who fought including for those values ​​that socialism gave him, and not the notorious tsar-father. For the last more and more Shkuro with Krasnov advocated.

      Heh heh heh ... that's really for whom Shkuro and Krasnov did not particularly advocate, so this is for the tsar-priest.
      No, of course, in words, Krasnov was for autocracy:
      Not about independence and some kind of fantastic life outside Russia, the Cossacks think in the strong heads of their people, but about the fact that the "Sovereign Crowned Man" appears in Russia, who can pacify and introduce truth and order in Holy Russia

      But in reality, citizen Krasnov was a terry separatist who dreamed of the Don Army from the Volga to the Dnieper. What he wrote to Emperor Wilhelm in 1918 about - asked Krasnov to recognize the Don Army within the designated boundaries and help him with weapons and supplies.
      So words are one thing, but if Krasnov had sat firmly on the Don, he would have taken up the old again. Moreover, the Germans themselves actively supported the nationalists / separatists in the occupied lands - "divide and rule."

      In general, the best "homogeneity" of the anti-Soviet movement was shown in "The Elusive Avengers" - a scene with the performance of "God Save the Tsar" and the enchanting fight that followed. laughing
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 3 February 2015 17: 21
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        the "homogeneity" of the anti-Soviet movement was shown in "The Elusive Avengers" - a scene with the performance of "God Save the Tsar"

        Do you seriously consider this a documentary?
  35. ejov1976
    ejov1976 2 February 2015 13: 28
    +1
    The more time separates us from those terrible military events, the more clearly the significance of the historical mission of the defenders of the hero city is realized. No matter what Western politicians say there, no matter how they strive to rewrite history, the sacred memory of the great feat of the participants in the battle today unites the participants in the war and the workers of the rear, middle-aged people and youth. A low bow to the winners for the saved world and freedom !!!
  36. Thomas
    Thomas 2 February 2015 14: 24
    0
    Today I found a site: http://podvignaroda.ru/. Highly recommend.
    On it you can see what awards our grandfathers and great-grandfathers received during the Second World War.
    I found my grandfather, and was very surprised. He and his brother did not tell us about this at all, for which he received awards. He showed his daughter, even if her generation knows about the feat of their ancestors.
  37. Roman 11
    Roman 11 2 February 2015 14: 37
    +1
    Without exaggeration, I think Battle of stalingrad and the victory of the most important in the history of our people, it can be set and even exalted over the Kulikovo victory, Borodino, Poltava, etc. In military history, these were the 2nd Cannes !! This was the most important victory in the history of the 2nd World War, after which the pendulum swung in the opposite direction and the initiative passed to the Allied powers ....... everything was literally on a thread, if we lost again, it’s not even clear where were able to stop - in the Urals, in Siberia? Not so long ago, Merkel told the truth to Putin about the loss of more than 1,5 million near Stalingrad, after this, the German army was not the same as that which blitzed 1939-1942.
  38. Elizabeth
    Elizabeth 2 February 2015 15: 14
    0
    Eternal glory and memory to all who defended Stalingrad, to all those who died cleansing the earth of the fascist plague in the Donbass and to all those killed and injured civilians on the border of two civilizations - the civilization of life and the civilization of death!
    The article put a "+", although I was strained by the photograph, which, according to the idea of ​​the article, represents Stalingrad - a view of a destroyed city and two women with a loaded cart. It is no coincidence that she wrote "arba", which does not at all look like a Russian cart, and two women are not at all Russian and not of Stalingrad. Dressed in summer, in oriental style. Maybe a photo from somewhere in the Middle East. such careless use of photographic materials can provoke another libel or provocative stuffing. This is already being done all the time. But there is no need to give this extra reason. I don't know how to draw the attention of the moderators to this picture in the article.
  39. Elizabeth
    Elizabeth 2 February 2015 15: 22
    +1
    On the Day of Military Glory I want to wish final Victory to all the soldiers who are now fighting in the Donbas for New Russia, for Russia, for the whole world with the descendants and heirs of the Nazis who were not yet complete. Let the heirs of the Nazis in the Debaltsevsky Cauldron inherit their fate in the battles near Stalingrad.
    And our children and civilians to stay alive !!!
    May the Lord save you!
  40. Blacks
    Blacks 2 February 2015 16: 01
    +2
    Grandfather was there ..............
    left at 16 ... (attributed 2 years) ..
    I’ve been gone for 10 years, but when I hear ..... tears
    He said that he signed on the wall ..... I want to see
  41. NordUral
    NordUral 2 February 2015 16: 01
    +1
    An employee of the German clinic Eric Kleiness:

    And you think how the hearts of Soviet mothers, wives, children and grandchildren of those whom the soldiers of Nazi Germany came to kill were compressed.
    And at the same time I will say about those who again kill women and children in the land of New Russia with the help and blessing of your country.
    Eternal memory to the fallen for Stalingrad, for our homeland!
  42. Yuri from Volgograd
    Yuri from Volgograd 2 February 2015 17: 37
    0
    Quote: exiv200gt
    I was at Mamevoi Kurgan last year, I drove a car with my family, although I live in the Altai Territory. For everyone should not only know his story, but also see live. An indelible mark leaves this place on man, pride and patriotism mixed with sadness and tears.

    And you can’t imagine how we have it on May 9! The whole mound is full of people and flowers. You have to go here to feel it. Here are just fewer veterans every year. As in the song of Igor Rasteryaev about Mamaev Kurgan.
  43. Yasondinalt
    Yasondinalt 2 February 2015 19: 43
    0
    Eternal memory to the heroes of the Great Patriotic War! Eternal memory to the heroes of Stalingrad, who instilled terror in the German "boy-soldiers", who happily went to kill the Russians with a smile. They came to us with a sword, from the sword and perished! Shame and oblivion to those who today are trying to belittle, erase your feat. While the Russian land is standing, your feat is in our hearts!
  44. parafoiler
    parafoiler 2 February 2015 20: 13
    0
    We didn’t put the Fritz in Stalingrad, otherwise their diarrhea ended too quickly. It is not difficult for us to remind the current generation of German revanchists of the lessons of Russian military art.
  45. Der grosse
    Der grosse 2 February 2015 23: 55
    0
    Eternal memory to Soviet soldiers to the heroes of the liberators of the Volgograd land soldier
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 3 February 2015 17: 24
      0
      Quote: Der Grosse
      Eternal memory to Soviet soldiers to the heroes of the liberators of the Volgograd land

      Warriors of the Red Army liberated Stalingrad land!
  46. Andrey84
    Andrey84 4 February 2015 02: 05
    0
    Eternal memory to the Heroes ...! Thanks for the article.