Chaos logic

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Logic ... too shaky the basis for reality, which must contain both harmony and chaos. "
Leland Ekston Modezitt, “Sunset Towers”


Chaos logicEvents taking place in the former Ukraine in recent days, give reason to reflect. The events that clearly do not fit into the "line of conduct" of those supporters "of the war party that seized power in Kiev. And this is not even the loss of the key point of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (Donetsk airport) and the actual destruction of two cyborg battalions." Although the incomprehensible events for us began right there. I’m talking about the rotation of personnel at the airport.

Who was replaced? Brought out the representatives of PMCs and fighters of the Right Sector? Who replaced? The subsequent illogical actions of the Kiev military, which provoked the response of the armed forces of the DPR and LPR, are very interesting for analysis and analysis. The hasty break-up of pseudo-agreements “Minsk-1”, a demonstrative rejection of “Astana”, rude statements “to give the teeth”, mobilization, a series of provocations with shelling of buses, trolley-buses and mass death of residents of the south-east of Ukraine, all of this forced the leadership of the people's republics to react based on the situation. Further more.

On the background of the transition to the offensive of the militia on almost the entire front, virtually without putting in reserves, the very fast delivery of a number of held settlements and a key point - Uglegorsk. It is illogical. Further, the very presence of the so-called "boiler" in Debaltseve, and for several months pumped in by the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and at the moment is grinding everything and everyone in it. The provoked scandal with the disbandment and reverse "rebirth" of the "Aidar" battalion and the statement of Sergey Melnychuk about the intention of the fighters, in their majority of adults, big men, return to the building of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine with many thousands rally. And this is at a time when the unshown, mobilized Ukrainian children are turning into cannon fodder. And the declared general mobilization itself, for the time being only male citizens, right up to 60 years, caused a logical reaction - flight beyond the limits of the Square, including into the “aggressor” country.

Following. Against the backdrop of peaceful speeches by the illegitimate president of Ukraine, Poroshenko - a vote in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and the declaration of Russia as an aggressor country, the requirement for additional sanctions. Against the backdrop of months of hysteria about the war with Russia, this is an illogical statement by the chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Viktor Muzhenko, that regular units of the Russian army are not participating in hostilities in eastern Ukraine. Here are his words: "At present, the Ukrainian army is not fighting with regular units of the Russian army." The subsequent screams with foam at the mouth that Muzhenko is a traitor, and calls for his lustration (the most harmless, by the way). The blasphemous statement of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland, Grzegorz Schetyna, regarding the release of prisoners by the Ukrainians from the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz (Auschwitz-Birkenau) and "historical the discovery of "some" figures "in Ukraine - what is it? An undisguised provocation that distracts us from something important? Forcing us to strain all available diplomatic, state, archival, public resources in order to remind everyone who defeated fascist Germany and how? Or maintaining the degree of conflict at the right level?

Against the background of the sanctions, the United States allowed private money transfers with the Crimea to its citizens and banks. This was reported on Friday 30.01.2015, the US Treasury Department. The permission concerns “non-commercial”, “personal” transfers to the Crimea or from the Crimea, in which the “ordinary inhabitants” of the peninsula are involved. At the same time, charitable donations or the sending of funds that support business in Crimea, including the family business, remain prohibited. Also, US citizens are allowed to transfer cash amounts to "ordinary citizens" of Crimea, which are not included in the list of personal sanctions. Telephone calls, support of accounts in US banks and mailings are allowed. Interesting, yes? Many questions. And we still do not know much, many events remain unnoticed by us, but this is enough to draw some conclusions.

1. Negotiations such as "Minsk-1", "Minsk-2" or, perhaps, "Tashkent-3", can lead to a halt of hostilities and the settlement of the situation. But that someone does not want in the United States. Hence, there will be an escalation of the conflict and the further collapse of Ukraine.

2. Ukraine is a hostage to the current situation; there is interest in some forces in the long, unceasing conflict between the US and Russia. If it were not for Ukraine, they would have found another reason, Belarus, Kazakhstan. And what remains of these states, America is not interested.

3. Sanctions, economic losses of Russia, somersaults on the foreign exchange market, partial isolation in various areas, human sacrifices, growing anxiety within the country is a very high price for Russia for its position in Ukraine. Therefore, it is clear and clear to everyone that Russia will not change its attitude towards events in neighboring Ukraine.

4. Nobody believes in the actual military confrontation between the USA and Russia. There are many restraining factors here, such as: European partners in NATO, the proximity of European countries to a possible theater of military operations, the inevitability of a retaliatory strike by Russia's nuclear triad, a very cooling factor for any unruly head.

5. The US is still more concerned with its own interests, and not with the interests of other countries, Ukraine, or Ivory Coast. Only a subordinate of Colonel Yuri Mamchur could shout: “America is with us” (who remembers — he will understand), but even in a nightmare, Americans will not shout: “Forward, for Ukraine!” To get involved in a war with Russia over Ukraine is not in the plans of the United States.

6. All emerging views overseas can be summarized in one popular word - "Drain". Drain of Ukraine in the full sense of the word, sink into oblivion as a state. A state that for several reasons did not justify the geopolitical hopes of the United States and could not even come close to even a semblance of a European country.
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  1. +26
    2 February 2015 07: 40
    recourse But was Ukraine really considered by someone in the USA or the EU as a candidate for joining the EU ... unless the whole mess there was started only as a provocation against Russia ...The Moor has done his job, the Moor may leave - literally.
    1. +7
      2 February 2015 07: 53
      Wherever the US comes, there will be a war, that’s what is natural!
      1. +4
        2 February 2015 08: 03
        The Americans did what they needed; chaos and armed confrontation in Ukraine — done, NATO — brought back to life — done, budgets for arming Europe, and arms bought in America — done, the EU and Russia quarreled — done, Europe put up as a colony SSHA-done, Well, now it’s only to maintain a conflict in Ukraine and the goal has been achieved, although not yet completely done. In my opinion, the hot spot will be when BRICS announces the start of its bank.
        1. +3
          2 February 2015 11: 14
          The Americans did what they needed; chaos and armed confrontation in Ukraine — done, NATO — brought back to life — done, budgets for arming Europe, and arms bought in America — done, the EU and Russia quarreled — done, Europe put up as a colony SSHA-done, Well, now it’s only to maintain a conflict in Ukraine and the goal has been achieved, although not yet completely done. In my opinion, the hot spot will be when BRICS announces the start of its bank.

          I will add, but all the "partners" took off their good masks, and showed their rotten, real teeth ....., and this outweighs all their "achievements" !!!!
          1. WKS
            +1
            2 February 2015 12: 31
            The discharge of Ukraine in the full sense of the word, the discharge into oblivion as a state. A state that, for a number of reasons, did not live up to the geopolitical hopes of the United States and failed to even come close to at least some kind of European country.

            This "drain" means an automatic "drain" of American influence not only in the region but also in the world. Obama is unlikely to agree to this. In Ukraine, he will use anything but "drain".
            1. lg41
              0
              2 February 2015 18: 30
              During 2015, the attempts of amers to support Ukraine will cease. The USA will just quietly move away from there. And try to leave as quietly as possible. Sooner or later, it will become obvious that Ukraine remains in Russia's sphere of interests. Although, now, Russia will be extremely reluctant to help, only to prevent the country from falling apart. Moscow will remind the people of Ukraine that from now on they themselves are responsible for their own economic security. And we can assume what awaits them - the basis of the Ukrainian economy will be grain trade.
          2. 0
            2 February 2015 16: 55
            Well, about the "kindness" of our Western partners, only EBEEN harbored illusions, but fortunately, we have already turned this page over.
      2. +7
        2 February 2015 08: 09
        A beautiful article. Thoughtful. Indeed, now Ukraine is no longer a country, and Ukrainians are expendable material. The systematic destruction of Ukrainian statehood as such is underway...
      3. +3
        2 February 2015 12: 08
        Quote: Samaritan
        Wherever the US comes, there will be war

        and meanwhile, they bring here an unprecedented nonsense of imbitsilov - http://warfiles.ru/show-79517-express-perehvachennyy-velikobritaniey-tu-95-nes-n
        a-bortu-yadernoe-oruzhie.html
        Express: UK-intercepted Tu-95 carries nuclear weapons on board
        On Friday, Russian ambassador to London Alexander Yakovenko was summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs due to the fact that two Russian strategic Tu-95 bombers were spotted over the English Channel. British fighters climbed the intercept, but later it turned out that a military listening post belonging to Norway intercepted communications from the cockpit of a Russian plane, which confirmed that the bombers were armed with nuclear warheads, Express writes.

        If suddenly nuclear warheads appear on Russian planes - this is already a war! They don't carry them unnecessarily! Only for a real goal and they do not sit back with them, they honor the commandments of their grandfathers: "Do not take out the blade unnecessarily, And when you take it out, do not lay it in without victory" (c)! And only so!!!
        1. 0
          2 February 2015 17: 03
          It is the lords with peers who do not yet know that a year ago, from the port of Arkhangelsk, a caravan of underwater camels carrying bombs with Russian poppy cassettes left the shores of Albion, a weapon that amazes with its inhumanity. According to the latest reports from the fronts of the Outskirts, after the start of the broadcast, most of the APU lost the keys to the ass.
    2. +13
      2 February 2015 08: 13
      Despite the fact that the author of the article is "Captain Obvious", sometimes it is still necessary to number thoughts. It is clear that Ukraine is not a tenant, the main thing is for us not to get involved in "brotherly feelings" after the war and not to start restoring this territory, it is obvious that they are not our brothers, but a burden. Let them come and work in Russia on a general basis, permission, exam, registration.
      The inhabitants of this territory have confirmed everything that we thought of them, so now they are just human resources for Russia in the upcoming industrialization.
      1. -6
        2 February 2015 10: 14
        Quote: domokl
        Now Ukraine is no longer a country, but Ukrainians are consumables. There is a systematic destruction of Ukrainian statehood as such.

        Quote: Shaitan
        The fact that Ukraine is not a tenant is understandable, the main thing after the war we do not get involved in "fraternal feelings" and do not start to restore this territory, it is obvious that they are not our brothers, but a burden

        And the territory of chaos does not need strong statehood.
        Somalia on the border with Russia is beneficial and will be supported by the West in this form for as long as necessary. "Moment" is right
        Quote: Moment
        What the Americans needed; chaos and armed confrontation in Ukraine –– done, NATO –– brought back to life –– made, arms budgets for Europe, and arms bought in America –– made, the EU and Russia almost quarreled –– made, Europe put up as a colony SSA – done, but now only support the conflict in Ukraine and the goal is achieved, ...


        But the worst thing is that the Russian leadership finds positive moments in chaos on its borders.
        While ukrAina will demonstrate such a bloody "show", Putin can be calm about his position in the country, because, as you know, horses do not change at the crossing.
        1. 0
          2 February 2015 12: 29
          to write 1-2 obvious things, to attribute something of your own, doubtful, is the right approach laughing
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    3. +1
      2 February 2015 11: 09
      ... the Moor has done his job, the Moor may leave-

      Only in this way it will be more appropriate: "Mavra can be" left "....
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    5. 0
      2 February 2015 12: 12
      Mattress makers made Ukraine their foreign legion against Russia. Grandmas paid. So what, they abandon their project? War of attrition or until Victory.
  2. +4
    2 February 2015 07: 44
    The Americans are very pragmatic, even merging Ukraine, they will have benefits. All will spend as bloody and terrible as possible, which would be what to blame Russia.
  3. +1
    2 February 2015 07: 44
    drain of Ukraine in the full sense of the word, drain into nothingness as a state. A state that, for a number of reasons, did not live up to US geopolitical expectations.

    I'd love to believe it. But the money that the United States has already poured into Ukraine, it still has to work out. So she fulfills the destruction of cities and towns.
  4. +3
    2 February 2015 07: 46
    Bringing the Strategic Missile Forces into high alert is our answer to the adversary. A sign that Russia will stand to the end. Are you ready to sacrifice themselves, and not the Slavs, the Anglo-Saxons?
    1. +3
      2 February 2015 07: 55
      Quote: Mikhail M
      Bringing the Strategic Missile Forces into combat readiness

      and now, presumably, they are on conservation?
      1. +1
        2 February 2015 09: 47
        Hello my friend!

        I saw you live and immediately decided to add something terribly clever and, if possible, to the topic to your comment.

        Are we becoming arrogant or, on the contrary, humble at the sight of the misery of others? It acts on one in such a way, on the other in a different way - and this is affected by the difference in characters.
        Source address (you need to enter in the upper address bar): http://volchara1959.ucoz.ru/index/0-2
        1. +2
          2 February 2015 10: 45
          Quote: Vasily Ivashov
          Hello my friend!

          Salute, Vasily! I hope the weekend was spent on "yat"?)
          I can link arrogance and mess in Xoxland with the aphorism of Emperor Napoleon:
          "There is nothing more arrogant than the powerlessness that feels supported" ©
  5. +1
    2 February 2015 07: 46
    The situation in Ukraine is an occasion for official pressure on Russia! And that’s it.
  6. +4
    2 February 2015 07: 57
    They can’t merge Ukraine, as Georgia was merged in due time. This time, they got stuck stronger. Ukraine is a lever against us and Europe. But something will be corrected, preserving the previous course and rhetoric. First of all, salt will be shed, which will make it possible to put less odious figures. Poroshenko and Co. already intimidated Europe with their stupidity. It would be necessary for me. Return the aunt with a scythe.
    For a pomegranate monkey, apparently, a favorite toy. And he is offended by GDP too much. He cannot forgive his insignificant ratings.
  7. +13
    2 February 2015 07: 58
    But the US permission to transfer to Crimea is very, very alarming. Did you find the local white-bellies? Not only as the next fifth column will be sponsored.
    1. +5
      2 February 2015 09: 00
      Quote: nadezhiva
      But the US permission to transfer to Crimea is very, very alarming. Did you find the local white-bellies? Not only as the next fifth column will be sponsored.


      More interesting - the residency.
      1. Tanechka-clever
        +3
        2 February 2015 10: 53
        Quote: skeptic
        More interesting - the residency.


        I like to read smart and competent articles, and most importantly ... with a SERIOUS SUBTEXT. Thanks to the author.
        “... And this is not even the loss of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of a key point (Donetsk airport) and the actual destruction of two battalions of“ cyborgs. ”Although the events incomprehensible to us began there. I'm talking about personnel rotation at the airport".

        The smart one will read between the lines what the author wanted to say ... there is the MAIN THING ...
        I just want to say ... the days of the American Posner have passed ... when the "noodles" could be easily hung up, and then the "harvest" from the naive to collect.
        Fools ended Mr. Pozner ... and you see and now you have no place in Russia ...

        Now ... children need to be taught "be afraid of any adult uncle, do not open the door even to a familiar and good friend. And an adult is not worth your respect ... because they are liars, and in order to understand who is who, you must first go to "intelligence" and if you come back - then a friend .. ".
        And Nicholas the Bloody, as a saint, will certainly not help the church to change this in the consciousness and education of young people.
        As they say - it is worth changing first to the most ..... adult, so that childhood becomes happy, and then old age will be a joy.
        The article is frank, but sometimes it’s worth pretending that we don’t understand - the obvious.
        To the author of the article... special... THANKS...
        1. +1
          2 February 2015 12: 43
          It is interesting that Postner still makes money on Channel One. In what other country could this be? To go against the "party line", i.e. to select citizens of the country in which you were given a job, and of which you are not a citizen . Nonsense! And today on Vesti24 I saw the announcement of programs that will be aired on this channel on Saturdays and Sundays. The program is called: "Historical chronicles with .... Nikolai Svanidze"! How is that? Patriot Kiselev and the enemy of the people Svinidze on one channel , is it in “one bottle?” And the textbook, which is called “Russian language” (authors Svanidze and Albats) has already entered Russian schools?
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    2. +1
      2 February 2015 10: 15
      I got a different feeling from the article.
      It looks very much like preparing for the coup with the help of the Natsyks.
      To do this, weaken the Armed Forces of Ukraine (due, if necessary, to protect the constitutional order), squeezing dissenters abroad (due to the escape from mobilization).
      And in the Crimea - the possibility of replenishing NEEDS!
  8. +2
    2 February 2015 07: 58
    4. Nobody believes in the actual military confrontation between the USA and Russia.


    Before the Second World War, we also signed a non-attack pact with Germany. And the result ???
    I do not believe, amid all NATO actions, about their peaceful course with Russia.
  9. +1
    2 February 2015 07: 59
    Well, let's hope that this happens. And the wreckage of the country will be included in our country as a whole, and not as a sovereign unit.
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  11. +5
    2 February 2015 08: 13
    A single dill in Russia? Something disturbs me from this thought. But the fact that the mattress and the EU "removed from the allowance" dill is a fact.
    They beat him up and left.
  12. vitalich57
    +5
    2 February 2015 08: 15
    After the collapse and disintegration of the urkaini ... the next "seemingly" hetman will again crawl on his knees to the threshold of Russia and will beat his chest with his fists and groan, sho they say we are back ... sebe. And we will forgive the whore sister once again. So the mattress covers will destroy the stolen to the last, all the same Russia will restore it, no matter how sad it is
  13. +3
    2 February 2015 08: 16
    What the United States is doing all over the world lowers the standard of living of all countries.
    For what? - because only against the background of the poor can one look rich.
    What the war in Ukraine gives the US is a decline in the standard of living not only for Russia but also for Europe.

    A rose can grow
    Among the heap of manure
    But the scent of that rose
    A passerby will not hear.
  14. +1
    2 February 2015 08: 18
    The article is not about anything, but I will not minus it.
    Apparently, the author wanted to say something, but either "I'm bad, or foreign girls" (c).
  15. +1
    2 February 2015 08: 34
    Draining the pig will solve one more problem - how to get out of the Boeing story. The falsification has reached a dead end. They will say: he misinformed us, they will pay off the victims with his factories and will again be "good and correct."
    1. 0
      2 February 2015 12: 43
      ... They say: he misinformed us ...
      and he answered: "I was forced!" (if he has time to grunt) laughing
  16. +5
    2 February 2015 08: 47
    An article is not an analysis, an article is an opinion, nothing more. And we must treat it appropriately.
    As a discussion of the situation. Most likely there will be an escalation of the conflict initiated by amers. This is probably all interested in one. All protocols where states are not directly involved are useless. The fact that the life of Ukrainians (both Kiev and Donetsk) is not interested in Europe and the United States is not seen only by the Supreme Council and ukrosmi. Probably only the impact on public opinion in order to disrupt mobilization can create a situation in which the conflict itself goes out. It is necessary by all available measures to show the horrors of war, killed soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the population. It is necessary to decompose the APU from the inside.
  17. wladimir
    +1
    2 February 2015 08: 55
    No measures other than the defeat of the ukrofashists will stop the war in New Russia. But the defeat and collapse of Ukraine in Russia is no longer profitable. They don’t want to work and everyone will climb to Russia for bread, as they are now fleeing from mobilization. This is an extra burden for us and feeds of additional 30 million people, most of whom are anti-Russian
  18. +3
    2 February 2015 09: 00
    I read the article by P.K. Roberts about our economy, the opinion about our liberal financiers is very interesting: "In my opinion, the neoliberal economists who control Russian economic policy pose a greater threat to Russia's sovereignty than economic sanctions and US military bases combined. In order not to give in to Washington, Russia urgently needs people who do not have romantic illusions about the West, ”the ex-US Treasury Secretary concludes with economic words.!!!! "The question is why the truth is cut by the so-called partner, and not someone from the environment of GDP, hiding the truth is worse than a lie !!!! soldier
    1. 0
      2 February 2015 12: 24
      Well, it’s not clear to anyone that Ukraine doesn’t shine, because the oligarchy rules all processes ?! mani mani ...
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  19. +2
    2 February 2015 09: 07
    The discharge of Ukraine in the full sense of the word, the discharge into oblivion as a state. A state that, for a number of reasons, did not live up to the geopolitical hopes of the United States and failed to even come close to at least some kind of European country.
    I agree, it's a real leak. But what does "European country" have to do with it? Ruin Americans used as a territory inhabited by savages who, for a mirror and glass beads, must let the white masters into the gold mines. And at the same time they will create chaos in the neighboring territory, from which the natives will rush to the same Americans with a request to calm "their own", and for this - anything.
    They made Ukrostan from Ukraine, achieved war and extermination of the mass of people, but did not achieve a single goal. So they merge. And the sooner they merge, the more people will survive. It would be necessary to help drain.
    1. 0
      2 February 2015 17: 08
      Why didn’t they reach the goal? The purpose of drowning competitors (market law). So they are trying to drive everyone into the Middle Ages. I don’t see a plum. I see the achievement of the goal. There is destruction, the goal is achieved!
  20. +1
    2 February 2015 10: 45
    Barack Obama the day before (01.02.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX) said that the United States "acted as a mediator in the transfer of power in Ukraine." He also noted that the White House intends to further support the Ukrainian economy and the current Kiev authorities, and the president did not rule out that Washington would supply weapons to Kiev.

    The United States officially took part in the coup in Ukraine.
  21. +1
    2 February 2015 10: 51
    when will the United States become the RSA ?! from the united states will turn into the divided states of america)
  22. 0
    2 February 2015 11: 31
    In general, plus an article, but a feeling of some kind of incompleteness of thoughts !!! Many interesting conclusions were made, but in the end ..... ????
    1. 0
      2 February 2015 12: 37
      In general, plus an article, but a feeling of some kind of incompleteness of thoughts !!! Many interesting conclusions were made, but in the end ..... ????
      to be continued...
      1. 0
        2 February 2015 16: 22
        New Russia needs official supplies of lethal weapons from Russia.
  23. 0
    2 February 2015 12: 36
    the goal of the Maidan is more clearly manifested - this is revenge of the GDP for an independent policy, the rollback of Russia to the time of the EBN’s rule, and more precisely, the collapse of the Russian Federation with its subsequent colonization ...
  24. 0
    2 February 2015 13: 07
    4. Nobody believes in the actual military confrontation between the USA and Russia. There are many restraining factors here, such as: European partners in NATO, the proximity of European countries to a possible theater of military operations, the inevitability of a retaliatory strike by Russia's nuclear triad, a very cooling factor for any unruly head.

    Well, well ... It’s not necessary to forget that in 1941 there were already similar assessments and how it all began (over - everyone remembers).
    It’s a big mistake in the war to think that they won’t get into you. Well nafik, this cannot be! But I would still advise you not to forget the helmet, and the armor will be warmer.
  25. +1
    2 February 2015 13: 51
    The author wrote everything correctly, but the conclusion he made was wrong. The US needs a slow war as long as possible! And they will start pumping Ukraine with weapons and bring a military junta to power by staging a coup. This is the correct scenario. This way they will weaken Russia and turn Europe against us. And then they will be able to seriously take on Russia itself.
  26. 0
    2 February 2015 14: 42
    Our advice, for Obama, will be very simple-
    Never stand on a Russian road!
    If you stick us in the wheel
    You’ll just remember about the country!
  27. 0
    2 February 2015 17: 05
    Normal people who still remained really sorry in Ukraine.
    1. vapl21
      0
      2 February 2015 19: 02
      Which side are left? Who is sorry for that? Who send their relatives to the civil war?
  28. 0
    5 February 2015 23: 40
    I’m very interested in whether there are studies on the subject of a massive thermonuclear strike on the Yellowstone volcano, and what will happen then? If anyone knows, write