It's time for a decisive blow.

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Once again, peace initiatives have turned into ruins, similar to those that remained from Donetsk airport. In general, there is nothing surprising. First, the “peaceful” Maidan with hundreds of victims in the center of Kiev, then the “peace plan” of Poroshenko, and finally - the “Minsk agreements”.


Again, the retribution of the punishers follows the same scenario. First, a hysterics begins in the Ukrainian media and among high-ranking representatives of the regime about many thousands of Russian troops with the most modern weapons. Then, when the defeat becomes apparent, informational stuffings about tactical retreats and numerous losses of the enemy are used. And in general it turns out that a settlement or an object does not matter so much for Ukraine. As a rule, the recognition of the retreat occurs in 2-3 days. So it was with the airport of Donetsk, with Novoazovskiy ... Only after weeks the information about the real state of affairs begins to appear. Yes, and it sounds, as a rule, from the Ukrainian military who survived the "victorious retreat".


With the losses of the Ukrainian National Security Council, everything is so successful that where is NATO? Even the most modern armies in the world cannot achieve the loss ratio of 1: 200, but the Ukrainian army succeeded! Thus, the adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs Zoryan Shkiryak 1 in July told Facebook readers that the APU had succeeded in destroying the militia before 1000 in a day (before that Poroshenko introduced a “ceasefire regime”). At the same time the next day Lysenko said that for the same July 1 only the entire 5 of the Ukrainian military died ... Impressive?

However, in six months, the Ukrainian army apparently lost its strength well. Already on January 19, Poroshenko’s adviser Yuriy Biryukov told Ukrainian TV viewers on the air of Svoboda Slova that the ratio of casualties at Donetsk airport is only 1: 50. It is 1: 50! And this is despite the fact that, in the opinion of the Kiev regime, almost all of the Russian special forces were operating there ...


What is this lie for? Any more or less thinking person can answer this question. The collapse of the economy, dismantling of the oligarchs and the fragmentation of society, the regime seeks to cover up unhealthy "patriotism", but essentially neo-Nazism.
However, liars sometimes tell the truth. Thus, the head of the General Staff of Ukraine, Colonel-General Viktor Muzhenko said that he had no evidence of the participation of the regular Russian army in Novorossia. Even Poroshenko was surprised by saying in an interview with the Polish television channel TVN that the Russian army is the strongest in the world, and Ukraine will not be able to withstand it, which finally discouraged jumping promidov Russophobes, who have been absorbing information about the invincible Ukrainian army for almost a year. Apparently, in this way he is asking for weapons from the States and some aggressive European countries. By the way, in the past, a resonant statement Poroshenko declared the Ukrainian army the most efficient in Europe. And even earlier, he said that if he gave the airport to the militia, they would be in Lviv ... Perhaps in this case Poroshenko would be right? smile



And still back to the fighting. In fact, during these six months, the Ukrainian army did not lose its strength at all, but significantly strengthened them. Militia offensive does not develop as fast as in August. Alas, this is true. Affects the lack of modern weapons and weak training of fighters. Next in turn is the largest defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine under Debaltseve. It is inevitable. Too vulnerable position of punitive.


For every successful advance of the militias, the Ukrainian Armed Forces respond with fire on residential areas. This happens without fail. The Grads have again been replaced by Uragans and Smerches. Most of the artillery simply won't reach. It is obvious that when the militia pushes the punishers back 100+ km, then Tochkas and aerial bombs will fall in the centers of large cities in Novorossiya. Although aerial bombs are already falling on Gorlovka. On January 18, several FAB-500 fell in the Bessarabka area. Previously, such weapons were used only in Snezhnoye. Then a "Khrushchevka" was damaged and people also died.


In fact, civilian casualties will also come from the actions of the armed forces of New Russia. The militia also have old, not high-precision equipment, certainly do not have their own satellites, and intelligence, sometimes, brings. It is only important to understand that the punishers do not even hide the intentions to destroy the “damned Colorado”, regardless of gender and age, and all their infrastructure. Okay, Donetsk and Gorlovka on the front line, but Lugansk and Stakhanov have nothing to do with it?

In this war, it is important to realize that it will not end in a peace agreement. Of course, the initiative in the hands of the inhabitants of Novorossia, but even to restore within the borders of the DNR and the LC, will succeed only in long bloody battles, in which part of the settlements will turn into Sands. What can we say about the attack on Odessa, Kiev or Lviv ...


That is why the intervention of the Russian army is extremely necessary. Only completely deprived of mind Bandera do not realize that the Russian aviation will turn most of their army into dust in a matter of days. Bandera come? Unlikely…

In the end, the Nazis can simply attack the Russian military in the Crimea. It was not by chance that a moat appeared on our border in the north of Crimea on our side. Apparently, the Ukrainian oligarchs have already dragged everything they could from Ukraine, and they intend to simply arrange a big war in order to cover their tracks and escape under the guise. Yes, and the West is already fed up with feeding the collapsing country. John Kerry insisted on the suspension of the IMF loan for Ukraine. In any case, the presentation comes to the final. Russia should not hold back anymore. A short full-scale war can put an end to the confrontation with the West in Eastern Europe for many decades and ensure security in the border zone. Do not be afraid of confrontation with the West. The conflict between NATO and Russia is impossible beyond the nuclear plane. And the prospect of the emergence of nuclear mushrooms in Washington because of Ukraine clearly does not warm potential opponents. Obama has already said that there can be no talk of a military confrontation between Russia and the United States.
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  1. +22
    2 February 2015 07: 30
    Negotiations are just a drag on time. You need to do what works well. And not to give them a break.
    1. +16
      2 February 2015 07: 45
      Do not let them recover, soak so that there is no break for lunch, so that there is no breakdown ......, and Russia should help put an end to it !!!
      1. +23
        2 February 2015 08: 02
        Obama has already said that there can be no question of a military confrontation between Russia and the United States.
        Ha, yes, Obama’s word is a flint. He doesn’t respect himself. Obama said that they don’t deliver weapons, but he opened the cyber-ebut, and then ......... in short, it’s time to start open deliveries of everything.
        1. +11
          2 February 2015 08: 42
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          .He doesn’t respect himself. Obama said that they don’t deliver weapons, but he opened the cyber-eagle, and there ......

          Hi Cheburak laughing Sasha, are you sure that the supplies are American? I am sure that they are European... It's just logical, and Americans know something about logic, that modern weapons require a trained fighter. That same person from a Ukrainian village would rather kill himself with this weapon than the enemy. Remember the story with the free Canadian fighters... Take them and fight.. So what? And there is no one to fly them. Train pilots - for money... laughing
          And the Europeans will utilize the old Soviet equipment (all the same, according to the norms of NATO, it must be disposed of) and even they will have a pretty penny
          1. +4
            2 February 2015 11: 02
            Quote: domokl
            Sasha, are you sure that the supplies are American? I’m sure that they are European.

            Hello separatist wassat I'm sure CyberBerkut hacked their computers.Americans They are already supplying weapons. It is the US that is supplying them, not Europe. Stingers and other crap.
            Catch, here what and how much, amounts and so on
            http://www.kp.ru/daily/26311/3190625/
          2. 0
            2 February 2015 15: 22
            I completely agree. All eurometallol will be sold to VSUshniki.
            In every war, someone warms their hands. But the Americans are not the last in this matter, they can also show "charity".
          3. Bob
            +1
            2 February 2015 15: 32
            Quote: domokl
            Are you sure the supplies are American?

            The Ukrainian army uses the American self-propelled guns M109 Paladin
            When shelling Horlivka, the Ukrainian military uses American equipment. Evidence of this information was provided by Donetsk militias.
            http://3rm.info/main/54569-ukrainskaya-armiya-ispolzuet-amerikanskie-sau-m109-pa
            ladin.html
        2. +7
          2 February 2015 10: 54
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Obama said that they don’t deliver weapons, but the cyber-eagle opened

          The United States transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine 5 high-speed inflatable boats.
          This was during a briefing said the Acting Speaker of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Vladislav Seleznev.

          “As part of the provision of material and technical assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, another shipment of 5 high-speed inflatable boats manufactured by Willard Sea Force 730 and Sea Force 11M, which have a rigid hull and equipped with all necessary protective equipment, arrived from the United States,” said Seleznev .

          Presumably, a "female inflatable" battalion of "technical" support and a "male inflatable" platoon of psychological support for the Azov battalion will also arrive soon.
          1. +3
            2 February 2015 11: 03
            Quote: Oleg Sobol
            Presumably, a "female inflatable" battalion of "technical" support and a "male inflatable" platoon of psychological support for the Azov battalion will also arrive soon.

            Presumably, everything is much worse actually. Above is a link to Domoclu hi
          2. +3
            2 February 2015 11: 15
            Quote: Oleg Sobol
            The United States transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine 5 high-speed inflatable boats.
            This was during a briefing said the Acting Speaker of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Vladislav Seleznev.

            and where should I rush to them after being cheated? No.
            1. 0
              2 February 2015 16: 45
              It can be seen that they are preparing another provocation either in the Crimea or in Melitopol
      2. +4
        2 February 2015 08: 16
        and for what should Russia supply Tochka? request that there are no other rockets? what
        1. +4
          2 February 2015 08: 49
          The article is very far from reality. The truth is about shooting residential areas. The militia competently acts. Why the assault with losses? In the boiler and artillery. And what will happen then will be seen. But we have nothing to do there.
          1. avg
            +3
            2 February 2015 12: 44
            We should not get involved in a full-scale war, we should not even climb the front line, but it is simply necessary to form several full-fledged reconnaissance and strike complexes to eliminate the boiler and "bring to life" the reckless Ukrop artillerymen.
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          3. 0
            2 February 2015 18: 49
            That's right, if we "get involved", then it will not be the end, but the beginning of the war. Americans They won't attack us. But their Baltic mongrels and perhaps even the Poles...
    2. +5
      2 February 2015 09: 47
      Everything is fine, we won, Victory is ours! And what about longer? Where is the money to restore everything that was destroyed? There is no money in the Russian budget! God willing, we would have enough ourselves! You know perfectly well how things are. And don’t shout that I am a pessimist and a provocateur! I work in production, I go to the store and I see that the salary is falling (with each month of the crisis, and by today it has become 40% less due to the decline in production and the lack of orders - previously almost 70-80 percent were orders from Ukraine)) and prices, unfortunately, have risen. We cannot leave Novorossiya alone purely for moral reasons, but we cannot help financially either. What to do? Once again the eternal Russian question has arisen. Who is to blame is known!
      1. VSC
        +2
        2 February 2015 11: 45
        It is known who is to blame! What to do?


        To drive. Judge.
    3. +2
      2 February 2015 11: 42
      "Sunday evening" with Vladimir Solovyov (01.02.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX)
      Solovyov as the Beacon of Politics ......
      The tone of the program on Ukraine has changed very abruptly! (Part 1 of the program)
    4. +3
      2 February 2015 12: 20
      The VSN cannot lose the initiative, no more truces with Ukraine that benefit the VSU, we need to finish off the fascists until there are no more of them left in this world.
      1. +5
        2 February 2015 12: 48
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Do not miss the BCH initiative

        Dear Giant of Thought, the initiative must not be lost, that's for sure. But at the moment, against 20-25 thousand militiamen fighting for their land, there are over 50 thousand Ukrainian soldiers and quite a few national battalions. Do you know the necessary ratio of troops during an offensive? Purely from tactical science. There won't be enough militiamen everywhere! Even with a "northern wind". Therefore, nothing will be done quickly. No matter how much we would like it to be.
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    6. +1
      2 February 2015 14: 17
      On their part - yes!
      Interestingly, could Stalin talk about negotiations with the non-fool or only about complete surrender?
      Funny, huh?
      You must first hijack all the Natsiks, and then "talk"!
      Learn the story, gentlemen!
      Have you released the wounded from the boiler? Remember Stalingrad, when the army of Paulus in the role of prisoners received help only after a complete defeat! Everyone should rake in full, so that it would no longer be customary to fight.
      UNTIL THE LAST COOKHOL UNDERSTANDS THAT WAR IS DEATH, HORROR, DEPRIVATION, CRIMPING, ETC., HE WILL NURSE THOUGHT HOW I WOULD BITE RUSSIA.
  2. +11
    2 February 2015 07: 35
    Only one thing will stop them - a blow to the holiest for them: DOLLAR!
    1. +14
      2 February 2015 11: 32
      Quote: brelok
      Only one thing will stop them - a blow to the holiest for them: DOLLAR!
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  3. +17
    2 February 2015 07: 37
    Recognize the DNI and LC. Conclude an agreement on military cooperation, accept the CSTO.
    or take part in the Russian Federation. 90% of the population - FOR!
    The war will end.
    No one will dare to yap.
    1. +6
      2 February 2015 08: 11
      Quote: Mig-29
      Recognize the DNI and LC. Conclude an agreement on military cooperation, accept the CSTO.

      Something no one is in a hurry, and first of all the Russian Federation
      1. +2
        2 February 2015 08: 19
        So there are good reasons for this.
        But this does not mean that until March this will not happen.
        1. +4
          2 February 2015 08: 33
          Quote: Mig-29
          But this does not mean that until March this will not happen.

          It will not happen, they definitely don’t recognize it, the leadership of the Russian Federation does not need complications, on the contrary, it wants to show itself on the good side, arguing that this is a Ukrainian matter and that it does not insist on federalization
          1. 0
            2 February 2015 12: 15
            The war will end.
            No one will dare to yap.

            This is unlikely! Such barking will begin, mother do not grieve!
            But it seems that there are no other options left.
      2. 0
        2 February 2015 16: 27
        Quote: saag
        Something no one is in a hurry, and first of all the Russian Federation

        Yes, the Russian Federation is in a hurry to make the Bandera state collapse, and not to accept Donetsk and Lugansk into its composition.
        But they still have to be recognized, it is highly desirable after the collapse of Ukraine into Banderlog, Hetmanism and the Wild Field. laughing
        And the Donetsk residents will restore themselves, having expelled oligarchs like Akhmetov.
        1. 0
          3 February 2015 15: 52
          Quote: Alekseev
          drove the oligarchs like Akhmetov

          And here the dog rummaged. Big and wicked.
    2. vitalich57
      +2
      2 February 2015 08: 22
      And where will the money come from to restore what was destroyed, pay pensions, and salaries to public sector workers? Your scenario is constantly dreaming of Obama Barakovich... Russia can't handle it yet, and then whoever danced with the girl, let him have her dinner
      1. 0
        2 February 2015 08: 35
        Quote: vitalich57
        And what kind of cones to restore the destroyed, to pay pensions, salaries to state employees?

        This money is in Ukraine, the hryvnia is not going anywhere, it will not be taken out to America by steamers
    3. +1
      2 February 2015 08: 58
      ... this is completely wrong - the ripened fruit itself will fall from the tree ...
    4. 0
      2 February 2015 09: 16
      ... or not Copenhagen, or a provocateur is one of two ..
    5. mda
      mda
      +1
      2 February 2015 16: 13
      Quote: Mig-29
      Recognize the DNI and LC. Conclude an agreement on military cooperation, accept the CSTO.
      or take part in the Russian Federation. 90% of the population - FOR!
      The war will end.
      No one will dare to yap.

      As for me, in the current situation, joining the DNI and LC is unprofitable, because:
      1. They have not even reached the borders of the regions.
      2. The accession of the DPR and LPR will be met with new sanctions and open arms supplies to Ukraine
      3.To restore Donbass it is necessary to spend a huge amount of money, which is currently not in the Russian budget.
      I repeat, all this is my IMHO
      1. 0
        3 February 2015 16: 01
        Quote: mda-a
        To restore the Donbass it is necessary to spend a huge amount of money, which is currently not in the Russian budget.

        Your Excellency, you reason like a hardened communist. Why budget money? Let's give the floor to the supporters of the liberal model. They will figure out how to attract an investor. First of all, invite PW to assess the damage. Entrust them with developing a business plan. Or announce a competition among their big six. And when the assessment and business plan appear, investors will flock here. And everyone will be happy. The main thing is that no money is needed, there is a lot of work for the deputies and the liberals who have joined them. That, Your Excellency, is a real market approach. There will be no other. And that's budget money. They came up with it.
  4. +4
    2 February 2015 07: 39
    Good luck to you guys! And less loss. They are waiting for you at home!
  5. +5
    2 February 2015 07: 39
    do not stop. to the cueva. well, or how much strength is enough. and then rest and cleanse the whole country from the Bandera fascist junta
  6. +6
    2 February 2015 07: 40
    One of Obama's Latest Interviews
    The American leader admitted that Washington "is engaged in strengthening the countries on the border with Russia that are part of NATO."


    It seems that the American government is seriously thinking that they will manage to sit out overseas in the event of a conflict with Russia and fight with other people.


    War "as usual" will not work for you.
    ... If you are beaten with a stick, you can break the stick - but it’s safer and more accurate to break the hands that hold the stick. Something like this...

    Look at America in the photo of the burning Donbass - your houses can be like that.
  7. +6
    2 February 2015 07: 41
    To increase and strengthen the militia's work "Voentorg".
    No sane person who wants the Victory of Novorossiya will understand peaceful stops
  8. +6
    2 February 2015 07: 49
    Not all economic methods of suppressing Ukraine have been used, but again, we are talking about the war. The war with Ukraine is the last thing. this can only be done if you get ahead of the NATO entry
  9. +4
    2 February 2015 07: 50
    If an attack is launched on the territory of Russia (the Crimean Peninsula), then there will be a war between Russia and Ukraine with all the ensuing consequences for Ukraine, or rather what will remain of it ...
  10. +10
    2 February 2015 07: 52
    Repost !!! "Punishers of the Armed Forces of the Mariupol military unit No. 3057 accidentally detonated a 120-mm mortar while shooting at Mariupol. Two punishers were killed, including an American instructor, six were injured."
    1. -1
      2 February 2015 11: 39
      Quote: Lukich
      accidentally blew up a 120 mm mortar.

      Here is the manual asshole!
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  11. +5
    2 February 2015 07: 59
    That the time has come for Russia to intervene more decisively in this conflict, I agree. At least with the help of sensitive equipment and weapons, without looking back to the west. The opinion that Russia is at war with Ukraine is still rooted there. And the supply of a country that recognized us as an aggressor, resources, and the active work of Ukrainian business in Russia does not fit into our heads.
  12. +3
    2 February 2015 08: 05
    What's this? A direct invitation to war, or preparation for the thought that it is inevitable?
  13. +9
    2 February 2015 08: 15
    Help from the Russian army? Only unofficial. And then they will hang this Ruin on us. No, the country must go bad and rot. That something decent had grown out of it.
  14. hohol33
    +3
    2 February 2015 08: 20
    Twenty-five again. Russia cannot be sent troops to Ukraine. It is necessary to help and spend time.
  15. +25
    2 February 2015 08: 26
    The article put a minus only for the phrase: "That is why the intervention of the Russian army is extremely necessary."
    The intervention of the Russian army ... The author, just imagine that our army put things in order there. That is, it went all over Ukraine. Imagine what you get in the end? Hate 40 million people. Because informational. psychological and other treatment of the population of Ukraine does not stop even for a minute.
    It's you, sitting in a comfortable chair, and having the opportunity to receive information from various sources, you can make some observations and conclusions. But in Ukraine it’s not so. There are still, though in different words: Yaku on Gilyak, Russia is an aggressor country, and other and other ...
    So the author does not set off.
    Think again and rewrite the article.
    1. +7
      2 February 2015 10: 20
      In Ukraine, there has always been a split of 50 to 50. 40 million - 100% of the population without the DNI, the LC and the Crimea. I do not believe that even under conditions of total propaganda such unity came to them. Moreover, at least half of the same Maidan supporters are not too radical and are susceptible to persuasion. In any case, while no one talks about the invasion. Well, let's wait until the punishers destroy tens of thousands more residents of New Russia and attack the Crimea. You should not hope for a new Maidan. Not Yanukovych. Crushed.
      1. 0
        2 February 2015 12: 57
        Quote: Airdefence_107
        Well, wait until the punishers destroy a few tens of thousands of Novorossi residents

        So the trouble is that the Ukrainians are 100% sure that Donetsk, Lugansk and other cities are being bombed by militias and Russian arimia! Trying to convince the opposite - Sisyphean labor! Everything that I show with us is turned over 180 degrees there. As an example - the next photo with supposedly our mobile crematoriums, where allegedly they burn Russian soldiers - conscripts. Such nonsense and reluctance to think with my head I have not yet met!
    2. 0
      2 February 2015 15: 09
      Quote: Metallurg
      Imagine what you get in the end? Hate 40-million population. Because informational. psychological and other treatment of the population of Ukraine does not stop even for a minute.

      Why is everyone shouting about forty million? Who was the first to say this nonsense? Who was the first to label all residents of Ukraine as fascists?? I believe that at least half of the population will remain loyal, and with the right policies, information campaign, etc., the percentage of loyalists will be much higher. Plus, don't forget about those who sincerely support Russia. It is through your inaction that you will get 40 million Russophobes. I believe that the process of slowing down the annexation of Donbass and part of greater Novorossiya to Russia began at the end of April 2014. Recently, to my regret, Nikolai Starikov has begun to repeat, like a mantra, picked up by others, the assertion that Russia supposedly had no reason to introduce troops in May, since in the referendum the residents of Donbass voted not for joining Russia, but for independence!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G04tXnvKx8Y
      But everyone who is at least a little bit related to the May referendum in Donbass remembers very well that there was a direct "twisting of hands" and requests "not to rush horses" in this matter. As if everything will be ok, you need to wait. Guys you just need with your oligarchs figure it out and then you will definitely see that the Russians have been fighting for almost a year! And we believe in nonsense about forty million Russophobes. They are already half of the country, and all because of inaction.
      I understand that Russia needs time (or the oligarchs), but during this time, Russians in the Donbass pay with blood.
      Donbass must become part of Russia ... Paid with blood, tears and sweat.
  16. +4
    2 February 2015 08: 33
    no, I do not agree. Our Army had to hammer dill back in April-May. Now why bother? Defeat from the former miners, what for the "great-breeds", what for their American masters will be an indelible shame! So let them be disgraced. Not a fig to save their reputation by defeat from the Russian Army.
  17. 0
    2 February 2015 08: 44
    The Negro is not given a go-ahead.
    And there will be no negotiations.
    In the light of recent reports about weapons, it makes no sense to talk about a ceasefire.
    At least some. wassat
  18. 0
    2 February 2015 09: 02
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7BO_74f8604.

    For the sake of such an attitude, I do not want to provide any assistance to the southeast. I haven’t seen such impudence anywhere ... maybe I’m wrong and this is just emotions, although refugees were hired and it was almost the same thing.
  19. +1
    2 February 2015 09: 06
    The truce is just a respite for the Ukronatsik. However, Russia should also refrain from directly intervening in this conflict! you are not afraid, because they are far overseas, and a new world war on the European "training ground" is extremely beneficial for them
  20. 0
    2 February 2015 09: 06
    Quote: Mig-29
    Recognize the DNI and LC. Conclude an agreement on military cooperation, accept the CSTO.
    or take part in the Russian Federation. 90% of the population - FOR!
    The war will end.
    No one will dare to yap.

    If you still have not recognized (as South Ossetia and Abkhazia), then the conditions do not allow it yet. Perhaps the West will immediately accept Ukraine into NATO, and this is a war. Ours are doing everything right, gradually squeezing out, not a word about the war, only negotiations, but things are going on at this time.
  21. +2
    2 February 2015 09: 09
    Russia should not restrain itself anymore. A short, full-scale war can put an end to the confrontation with the West in Eastern Europe for many decades and ensure security in the border zone. - In no case! Ukrainians themselves must rebuild their home after all the devastation. New Russia, yes, you need help, but Ukraine - in no case. They will forget and occupation will be called.
  22. calocha
    +2
    2 February 2015 09: 10
    It is high time to understand yesterday the Russian "peacekeepers" that the reptile must be URGENTLY finished off !!!
    1. +3
      2 February 2015 09: 33
      M.U.D.I.L.A. rants. He will raise Chechnya and Ingushetia. Oh well. The Chechens have already been fighting a hundred years ahead, and they won’t fight for the great Krajina. As for the Ingush, they did not fight with the Russians even during the time of Shamil. About Ossetians and Abkhazians can generally be silent. Kuban is a fantasy of a drug addict.
      In short, they are fake nonsense.
      1. +2
        2 February 2015 10: 24
        Quote: Prometey
        ..... rants.


        Prometey

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    2. 0
      2 February 2015 10: 35
      Death to Zatsu! He should know that Russia is solving its problems effectively, persistently and in a timely manner.
      Sam called.
    3. +1
      2 February 2015 14: 20
      And what kind of a chevron is it with Baron Munchausen at the core?
      1. 0
        2 February 2015 16: 40
        Quote: Anatolich
        And what kind of a chevron is it with Baron Munchausen at the core?

        So this is the Munchausen battalion (storytellers) laughing
    4. 0
      2 February 2015 19: 38
      What a beast... There are sooo many patriots in Kuban!!! And each of them is ready to die for Russia!!!! And the fascist scum has also donned the Kuban cap... Yes, the scum who join this gang just for the name Don and Kuban Cossacks - volunteers will take off the Kuban cap along with the head... So that not a single fascist dares to defile the bright name of the Motherland of the Black Sea Cossacks!!!!
  23. +5
    2 February 2015 09: 32
    There are no words! Well, the author, oh yes .... (Pushkin)! He twisted, twisted about unfit for combat dill and that's how he twisted it. Well, are we returning to the topic of bringing troops to Ukraine and the victorious march to Lviv again? Are they waiting for us there? And who will cancel the traditional Bandera raids of Svidomo on the settlements controlled by our army? And in this case, the world hysteria about the fact that "Russian punishers are burning out the captured villages" who can appease? Who will get it to restore what was destroyed with dill and take on the life support of the population? Do we have a lot of money for this? Or no more cases?
    Let's recall the materials about the boxes for denunciations in Slavyansk. They, as I recall, were not empty. And whom will the Russian army protect from there?
    So far, solid questions, and no one gives intelligible answers to them. Therefore, we, as this happens, will support New Russia, but it is impossible to send troops.
    1. 0
      2 February 2015 10: 27
      At least to Odessa. Perhaps Kiev will have to bomb. Why do we need Lviv at all? Would you like a fence? Will they fence. On the border with Novorossia.
  24. +1
    2 February 2015 09: 55
    The war in Ukraine with the participation of Russia and NATO is likely to be. And this year. The USA has less and less time left before the internal pindyk, which is turning into the global one. The United States and Co. will understand that Parashenko and Co. are unable to resolve the issue of New Russia (and Crimea) with Russia, and, having arranged another provocation or somehow, they will introduce a contingent there. What Russia will have to answer. The conflict is unlikely to enter the territory of Russia, because this will already mean a war in the phase of thermonuclear fusion, but in Ukraine we will clash like in Vietnam.
  25. -1
    2 February 2015 09: 58
    victory march to Lviv? Are they waiting for us there? A traditional Bandera raids Svidomo ....
    And, unfortunately, they don't wait in Odessa - there were so many friends there - in a year everyone turned into Svidomo! And they began to hate us. Jokingly told them Odessa will soon become a Russian city - their answer is "God forbid." But I am sure that when Ukraine calms down and not much time passes, they will ask to go to Russia themselves.
    1. +1
      2 February 2015 10: 23
      Do not draw conclusions on those who go outside. Odessa crushed. The resistance is fragmented. For St. George's ribbon beaten. Before TV, they usually get out active Maydanovtsy. We can not forget what made the creature 2 May.
    2. -1
      2 February 2015 14: 42
      So your friends are not from Odessa. And the inhabitants of Odessa are waiting. They read the news and wait.
      1. 0
        2 February 2015 16: 42
        Quote: ymNIK1970
        So your friends are not from Odessa. And the inhabitants of Odessa are waiting. They read the news and wait.

        Have you read the comments of Akim and Crystal? And they are from Odessa.
  26. +2
    2 February 2015 10: 00
    This hemorrhoid is already tired of everyone.
  27. +3
    2 February 2015 10: 08
    The time for the decisive blow has passed. When Crimea was annexed, then it was necessary to rattle with weapons. Maybe that would have happened! Although they seemed to rattle. But it’s not convincing enough. And now there is only one way out - with the hands of the Ukrainians, to restore order in the Donbass, and in Kiev, among the "like-minded" junta's, muddy the waters.
  28. +7
    2 February 2015 10: 15
    that's what I found on the net
    Chechen, "for which the Russian does not respect the Ukrainians."
    1) The first, of course, is for unscrupulousness and for the "truth" for every day. Russian loves fundamentalism, but not a floating opinion. For him, a floating opinion is a lie. The Ukrainian always adjusts events every time, which creates the illusion of unscrupulousness and adaptability.
    2) The Russian does not like betrayal and feels traitors in the Ukrainians. He knows that the Ukrainian will always have an argument to betray. The arguments may be different, but the essence is the same - to cause maximum harm to the Russian citizen. Everything that a Ukrainian does, he does not for himself, but to harm the Russians. As a rule, they do not care about themselves, and therefore they live poorly.
    3) Insecurity is the most important factor. Today is one, tomorrow is another. See paragraph one.
    4) A Russian does not respect Ukrainians for not respecting their history. For a Ukrainian, history does not exist. This for him is only a system of closed arguments, but not a science. He can rewrite it endlessly, because the Ukrainian still does not know his story. Ukrainian for a Russian is "Ivan, who does not remember kinship."
    5) The Russian will not take the blame on another. Yes, the United States is an enemy for him, but you rarely hear from a Russian that the United States is to blame for Russia's problems. The Russian blames only himself for his troubles. The Ukrainian, by contrast, is never to blame. He is all in white and a victim. Ukraine is a caramel country, near which there are only heaps of manure that prevent it from living.
    6) Ukrainians, in comparison with the Russians, do not feel the intimate zone of a person, his untouchable freedom. Ukrainians sometimes easily invade it with rudeness and non-sporting behavior. No matter how the Russians disperse the Golden Eagle, they will never chase them at home - sports behavior, the essence of the Russians. Ukrainians are not, they are trying to offend for the most lively, which emphasizes their petty, innate meanness. In Russia, the last thing is zapadlo.
    7) Gossip and rumors are not respected in Russia. They simply despise. In Ukraine, no.
    8) Demagogy. In everything and everywhere, with the use of double standards. See paragraph one. The Russians are still fundamentalists. They, even to me a Chechen, are easier to understand, and easier to negotiate with them. Moreover, you can agree with the Russians for a long time, but with the Ukrainians for an hour ... Further, Wishlist Ukrainians cross out the contract.
    9) It is not love for one’s homeland and people that is true Ukrainian, despite radical nationalism. A Ukrainian never compares Ukraine and Russia; he always compares Europe and Russia. This proves that unconsciously Ukraine is not for him ....
    10) A Ukrainian will not see a log in his eye, but he sees a straw from a Russian.
    11) From the experience of the Chechen war, I can see. Ukazinets will never fight on the front line as Russian. Ukrainians were at Gelayev for sabotage. The Russians, however, we got out of puddles of urine and feces, and in tears, but. They do not leave positions. Actually, it always led me into a stupor. Ukrainians are fighting when luck is only on their side. Actually, here I agree with Khattab, who called the Russians “stubborn silent men” ...
  29. +3
    2 February 2015 10: 16
    There is nothing for the Russian troops to get involved in anyway. Then they will write off all past crimes to our army. Let them shit themselves and answer. I feel that they are already exhausted in their lies. They made a scarecrow from the Russian army, so it’s better to let it be a scarecrow for them than a judge. Let history judge better. This is not our war, even if our people are there. THE DISPOSAL IS NOT TO INTRODUCE THE ARMY TO THE TERRITORY OF THE FOREIGN STATE OF UKRAINE. NO JUSTIFICATION IS NOT ENOUGH. I THINK TO HELP NEED AS PLEASANT, BUT DO NOT ENTER A MILITARY.
    1. +1
      2 February 2015 12: 22
      I THINK TO HELP NEED AS PLEASANT, BUT DO NOT ENTER THE TROOPS
      Of course, to supply flowers and pears, all kinds of forget-me-nots, hyacinths, pinocchio. And then some in dill have already begun to imagine cheburashki.
      1. 0
        2 February 2015 16: 50
        Quote: Blondy
        I THINK TO HELP NEED AS PLEASANT, BUT DO NOT ENTER THE TROOPS
        Of course, to supply flowers and pears, all kinds of forget-me-nots, hyacinths, pinocchio. And then some in dill have already begun to imagine cheburashki.

        Oh, oh that terrible Che-bu-rush-ka, they are as afraid of his horror.
  30. +3
    2 February 2015 10: 17
    Chatter again. Itching again. What is the blow of the Russian army? This is the most extreme option, everyone will go to us. Nuclear mushrooms look bad not only in Washington, but also in Moscow. The situation for us is getting worse every hour. We must survive, try not to succumb to provocation. All this very much resembles the winter of 41 years. Two options: bad and very bad. The Russian Federation is not the USSR, do not have illusions. Although the United States made life difficult for Iran as much as possible, but because of the internal cohesion of the authorities before the threat, they did not dare to get involved. our weak link is ourselves. If we survive a sharp deterioration in the standard of living, and it is just around the corner, then we have every chance to survive. The power must change, it is necessary to show real actions to reformat the Government. I talked a lot with my friends as komersants - exactly those who produce, and so - EVERYTHING IS READY TO tolerate, ALL READY TO WORK and NO ONE BELIEVES THE AUTHORITY. There’s only one conversation - again they’ll scramble the state babki offshore, again there will be only talk. Well do not believe them. It is necessary to give a signal - WE ARE NOT YOUR SALT (Russia). And it will not rust after us.
    1. +2
      2 February 2015 11: 07
      They were afraid of attacking Iran, and will they start a nuclear war with Russia?
  31. +3
    2 February 2015 10: 22
    "A moat appeared in the north of Crimea from our side"

    Shaw, again dug up a dig? laughing
  32. 0
    2 February 2015 10: 28
    Forward and to the Dnieper! No negotiation.
  33. +5
    2 February 2015 10: 46
    I understand intellectually that it is impossible to introduce Russian troops. I understand that the army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able to resist. The population under the junta is already zombified and only time can convince them. BUT - I am ready to take up arms and in any rank and position to come forward to defend my homeland.
  34. +2
    2 February 2015 11: 05
    It's not the time... The US "Ukropostan" project has stalled and become a headache for the instigators - the US and Europe.
    They would be happy to dismiss and drop this suitcase without a handle, but at the same time understand that their image losses in the world will be catastrophic. Therefore, it turns out - you can’t quit and drag it unprofitable. What to do?
    Draw Russia at any cost.
    With the introduction of our troops, they will declare Russia an "aggressor" will abandon this ruin and demand that Russia restore it. Do we need it? America and the EU are already drowning in Ukraine ...
    By the way, today is the birthday of Arseniy "MOTOROLLY" - we wish the hero Health, longevity, military success and a speedy and complete victory over the junta !!!
    1. donechin1
      +1
      2 February 2015 11: 47
      I really want to believe your forecasts - tell me if possible where you got this opinion about the position of the US and the EU regarding the confrontation in Ukraine - it seems to me that America is confident that it can squeeze us economically - and is not particularly tense about the war in Ukraine and that time is catastrophically moving against us (I am against sending troops into Ukraine and this is not a hint about sending troops there) and the liberation of Novorossiya must be forced, why is there no information from us in the media - the facts that have already appeared regarding the supply of American large-caliber artillery weapons to Ukraine from the US, why are we silent.... for me all this is strange and incomprehensible, as well as many other things........
  35. 0
    2 February 2015 11: 27
    We should not take the first step to war. It is possible and even necessary to support, but it is not the time to directly participate in the war.
  36. oksanamcarevush
    +2
    2 February 2015 11: 30
    Guys - we all want the victory to be ours - the way it will be! But be patient - while the APU has no slippage - moreover, the present state of affairs is not entirely rosy - now the main task is not to let the advanced ones get exhausted and not to reserve - there will still be an offensive! Everything is happening randomly so far - there is no clear goal - the shock force has not been formed! Even if you go to the borders of the regions, it’s much harder to keep a large front - you need to cut the corridor to the Crimea and then use the reserve located in the Crimea.
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  38. DMB84-86
    +3
    2 February 2015 12: 00
    The article is a provocation, well, we will introduce troops, well, we will win and what will we get? A population that hates us, accusing us of all sins, and again feed, feed and feed ... Plus the reputation of the country of the aggressor all over the world! I understand that someone is sleeping and seeing such a variant of events ... Shish to you! And Ukraine must go its own way as Germany, that is, be cleansed with blood.
  39. 0
    2 February 2015 12: 00
    It’s just amazing how these warriors fight with the militia, or rather they don’t even fight, but they do something incomprehensible as fascists during the Second World War:

    carefully watch and listen to on 1.36 m. video

  40. Ivan 63
    +2
    2 February 2015 12: 14
    If you have to set the border, then, at least, along the Dnieper, taking into account that Novorossia will be from Tiraspol to Kharkov, otherwise, the game is not worth the candle.
  41. 0
    2 February 2015 12: 17
    Quote: Panikovsky
    Quote: Oleg Sobol
    The United States transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine 5 high-speed inflatable boats.
    This was during a briefing said the Acting Speaker of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Vladislav Seleznev.

    and where should I rush to them after being cheated? No.

    Rush to take Sevastopol laughing
  42. wladimir
    -1
    2 February 2015 12: 19
    A short, full-scale war can put an end to the confrontation with the West in Eastern Europe for many decades and ensure security in the border zone. Do not be afraid of confrontation with the West. The conflict between NATO and Russia is impossible outside the nuclear plane. And the prospect of the appearance of nuclear mushrooms in Washington because of Ukraine clearly does not warm potential opponents. Obama has already said that there can be no question of a military confrontation between Russia and the United States.
    But this is a provocation!
  43. 0
    2 February 2015 12: 57
    Obama has already said that there can be no question of a military confrontation between Russia and the United States.

    As the author has not said about Psaki. Obama can say anything.
    As for the next "duck" about the introduction of Russian troops, then, apparently, the disadvantages of the article are about this.
    and last. Now in Novorossia the golden rule of A.V.Suvorov is applied: to fight not by number, but by skill.

    The war plan will show ...
  44. 0
    2 February 2015 13: 01
    Quote: Lukich
    that's what I found on the net
    Chechen, "for which the Russian does not respect the Ukrainians."
    1) The first, of course, is for unscrupulousness and for the "truth" for every day. Russian loves fundamentalism, but not a floating opinion. For him, a floating opinion is a lie. The Ukrainian always adjusts events every time, which creates the illusion of unscrupulousness and adaptability.
    2) The Russian does not like betrayal and feels traitors in the Ukrainians. He knows that the Ukrainian will always have an argument to betray. The arguments may be different, but the essence is the same - to cause maximum harm to the Russian citizen. Everything that a Ukrainian does, he does not for himself, but to harm the Russians. As a rule, they do not care about themselves, and therefore they live poorly.
    3) Insecurity is the most important factor. Today is one, tomorrow is another. See paragraph one.
    4) A Russian does not respect Ukrainians for not respecting their history. For a Ukrainian, history does not exist. This for him is only a system of closed arguments, but not a science. He can rewrite it endlessly, because the Ukrainian still does not know his story. Ukrainian for a Russian is "Ivan, who does not remember kinship."
    5) The Russian will not take the blame on another. Yes, the United States is an enemy for him, but you rarely hear from a Russian that the United States is to blame for Russia's problems. The Russian blames only himself for his troubles. The Ukrainian, by contrast, is never to blame. He is all in white and a victim. Ukraine is a caramel country, near which there are only heaps of manure that prevent it from living.
    6) Ukrainians, in comparison with the Russians, do not feel the intimate zone of a person, his untouchable freedom. Ukrainians sometimes easily invade it with rudeness and non-sporting behavior. No matter how the Russians disperse the Golden Eagle, they will never chase them at home - sports behavior, the essence of the Russians. Ukrainians are not, they are trying to offend for the most lively, which emphasizes their petty, innate meanness. In Russia, the last thing is zapadlo.
    7) Gossip and rumors are not respected in Russia. They simply despise. In Ukraine, no.
    8) Demagogy. In everything and everywhere, with the use of double standards. See paragraph one. The Russians are still fundamentalists. They, even to me a Chechen, are easier to understand, and easier to negotiate with them. Moreover, you can agree with the Russians for a long time, but with the Ukrainians for an hour ... Further, Wishlist Ukrainians cross out the contract.
    9) It is not love for one’s homeland and people that is true Ukrainian, despite radical nationalism. A Ukrainian never compares Ukraine and Russia; he always compares Europe and Russia. This proves that unconsciously Ukraine is not for him ....
    10) A Ukrainian will not see a log in his eye, but he sees a straw from a Russian.
    11) From the experience of the Chechen war, I can see. Ukazinets will never fight on the front line as Russian. Ukrainians were at Gelayev for sabotage. The Russians, however, we got out of puddles of urine and feces, and in tears, but. They do not leave positions. Actually, it always led me into a stupor. Ukrainians are fighting when luck is only on their side. Actually, here I agree with Khattab, who called the Russians “stubborn silent men” ...

    How subtle and true. I always knew that we were different people.
  45. 0
    2 February 2015 13: 21
    Compare the top two photos. Both soldiers use the knee shooting method. Which of them is trained in shooting from AK.?
  46. +1
    2 February 2015 13: 43
    Quote: VSK
    It is known who is to blame! What to do?


    To drive. Judge.

    And who is to blame? whom to drive and judge? What is the surname, position? Logically, it’s the fault of those who do not want Russia to be brought back to their knees. Everything closes on our president. And I don’t want to live on my knees with a piece of sausage. I’ll tolerate it with a crust of bread, standing in full growth. the future of our children and grandchildren. For the future of Russia. Despite the most severe problems in our country, I continue to believe Putin.
  47. +1
    2 February 2015 13: 58
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: domokl
    Sasha, are you sure that the supplies are American? I’m sure that they are European.

    Hello separatist wassat I'm sure CyberBerkut hacked their computers.Americans They are already supplying weapons. It is the US that is supplying them, not Europe. Stingers and other crap.
    Catch, here what and how much, amounts and so on
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26311/3190625/

    In Europe, the warehouses are full of old weapons. Why carry across the ocean? It’s hard to hide. Yes, and the mattresses do not want to provide ukram new. Anyway, after all, the militias will wring out.
  48. 0
    2 February 2015 14: 04
    The more determined the action, the less blood. If we hadn’t been afraid of decisive actions at the beginning of the Maidan, even with hundreds of victims, then there would not have been those thousands of dead in the DPR and LPR, and there would have been hundreds of thousands of refugees in Odessa on May 2. The political lack of will of rulers is expensive for citizens.
  49. +1
    2 February 2015 14: 06
    It seems to me that the retreat of the punitive forces is a tactical move... They prepared so much - and now this happens? The Ukrainian Armed Forces have prepared a decisive assault and are trying to pull out significant forces of the LNA to poorly equipped positions. Therefore, the matter of life and death for the LNA is the arrangement of an echeloned defense in dangerous areas. The most dangerous thing is the division into southern (Mariupol) and northern parts with access to the border with the Russian Federation. Here it is necessary to concentrate artillery units with crossfire on the terrain. Mobilization is necessary, but you cannot take the last breadwinners of families, and if there is no other way out, then you need to take such families for support.
  50. 0
    2 February 2015 16: 31
    With difficulty, I forced myself to finish reading. The surname of the creator of this opus, prompted what "spun on the tongue" - the unfinished "furniture minister of defense."
  51. 0
    2 February 2015 16: 56
    Obama has already said that there can be no question of a military confrontation between Russia and the United States.

    So what? he said a lot of things... and all his mongrels also wagged their tails, but they still try to bite harder...
    Why should we now open our arms and shout - Mr. Obama! Are we still friends? we are not enemies?!... they have all already shown their faces... so in the future it is better not to have any dealings with them at all!
    1. 0
      2 February 2015 18: 35
      Here this means that he will not fight for Ukraine. But the cold confrontation between the United States and Russia will always exist.
  52. +2
    2 February 2015 17: 16
    Quote: Hronyaka
    Quote: Metallurg
    Imagine what you get in the end? Hate 40-million population. Because informational. psychological and other treatment of the population of Ukraine does not stop even for a minute.

    Why is everyone shouting about forty million? Who was the first to say this nonsense? Who was the first to label all residents of Ukraine as fascists?? I believe that at least half of the population will remain loyal, and with the right policies, information campaign, etc., the percentage of loyalists will be much higher. Plus, don't forget about those who sincerely support Russia. It is through your inaction that you will get 40 million Russophobes. I believe that the process of slowing down the annexation of Donbass and part of greater Novorossiya to Russia began at the end of April 2014. Recently, to my regret, Nikolai Starikov has begun to repeat, like a mantra, picked up by others, the assertion that Russia supposedly had no reason to introduce troops in May, since in the referendum the residents of Donbass voted not for joining Russia, but for independence!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G04tXnvKx8Y
    But everyone who is at least a little bit related to the May referendum in Donbass remembers very well that there was a direct "twisting of hands" and requests "not to rush horses" in this matter. As if everything will be ok, you need to wait. Guys you just need with your oligarchs figure it out and then you will definitely see that the Russians have been fighting for almost a year! And we believe in nonsense about forty million Russophobes. They are already half of the country, and all because of inaction.
    I understand that Russia needs time (or the oligarchs), but during this time, Russians in the Donbass pay with blood.
    Donbass must become part of Russia ... Paid with blood, tears and sweat.

    50/50 - this was BEFORE the spring of 2014. But after Crimea and Donbass, anti-Russian sentiments grew sharply. So now the ratio is 75/25 and not in favor of Russia. And most of these people are in Donbass.
  53. +1
    2 February 2015 17: 52
    Quote: provincial
    Compare the top two photos. Both soldiers use the knee shooting method. Which of them is trained in shooting from AK.?

    There are actually two options:
    1. Neither one is trained; both shooters have postures that contradict the shooting course. belay
    2. Both shooters are super-professionals, they have been fighting for twenty years, and they didn’t care about the pictures in old textbooks, because unstable positions are the key to a speedy transition to the next maneuver. soldier
  54. +1
    2 February 2015 21: 26
    If there were no anti-Russian and Russophobic sentiments in Vorovino, there would be no Maidan and no war in Donbass, and maybe even this independent country itself! Even the overwhelming majority of current refugees in Russia blame Russia for everything! So what now? Should we blush, look down, and start to please them with a feeling of endless guilt, hoping to change their attitude towards us? We've been through this for 25 years, and they only opened their mouths wider! It's time to understand that we need to spit on all these "sentiments" and put them in their place in the stall in a harsh, rude, forceful manner! If we can't convince them otherwise in a good way, then let them at least be stupidly afraid to yelp something about Russia. And there's nothing to be afraid of, that 75% of them hate Russia - but the remaining 25%, with our support and by their example, will shut their mouths! And the eternal changeability and envy of the "Ukrainians" will eventually do its job with the remaining 75%. The main thing is to give support and freedom of action to the 25% who support us!!!
    And with a sober look, it was not clear that, practically, in the entire history of Russia, she never had, not just by her side, but under the most that neither, there was a more hostile, parasitic, malicious and unpredictable state misunderstanding how is the present Vorovin? !! And with what historical perspective, not so distant, can this threaten Russia? Here it’s somehow not up to tomatoes for 190 rubles. per kg If we all love our country and want everything to be good in it, and looking soberly at what is happening, we should not give a damn about tomatoes (let them tolerate at least 901 rubles per kg - we will tolerate), then at least political, at least economic, even by military means, even by carcass, or even by a scarecrow, but this infection must be eliminated as soon as possible! Only after this you can do the cheaper tomatoes with a quiet mind.
    And in general, the state "Ukraine" as never was, and now it did not work! The word "Ukraine" should go out of use as the name of something territorial-state, well, like "fascist" is not used anywhere and in any way! Only the old names Slobozhanshchina, Podolia, Little Russia, Novorossiya, Bessarabia, and even Galitskaya or Chervonaia NO RUSSIA !!! And all this is in a confederation, not among themselves, but with Russia to begin with, with the subsequent privilege of obtaining the status of a region within Russia.
    Well, the word "Ukraine" can be used as a horror attraction with elements of clowning in some Disneyland and then in the Far East, so as not to injure the psyche of those who survived it in reality once again!
    Py.Sy. By the way, the last paragraph can now be recommended to enterprising children.
  55. 0
    3 February 2015 21: 51
    In fact, there have always been bad military supplies. Remember the Hurricanes that we were sold under Lend-Lease. In desert livery, with wooden propellers and about 100 hours of flight time...