Ukraine introduced a new tank engine

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Ukraine presented at the VIII International Exhibition of Armament, Military Equipment and Ammunition in Nizhny Tagil (RF) dimensional layout of the new engine 5TDFM. Experts recognized him as the best in the world in its class.

As the press service of the state-owned company Ukrspetsexport, which together with the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies represents Ukraine at this forum, said, “the exposition of our country is characterized by a high level of attendance and expert interest.” In particular, the leaders of the Ukrainian delegation held talks with Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Dmitry Bulgakov on cooperation in the armored industry.

The 5TDFM engine was developed by specialists of the State-owned Enterprise Kharkiv Engine Design Bureau. It has the highest overall power among existing engines for armored vehicles and can be operated in any climatic conditions (up to + 55 ° C). Now 5TDFM is being prepared for mass production, and it can be expected that armored vehicles based on it will be in great demand in countries of Asia and Africa with harsh climatic conditions.

The technical characteristics of the new engine were also presented to Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who praised the new Ukrainian development, noting that it was “promising.”

The head of the state concern “Ukroboronprom” Dmitry Salamatin has no doubt that the potential of the defense-industrial complex of Ukraine in the field of armored vehicle construction will be in demand in the global arms market.

“The high assessment given by Ukrainian military equipment to Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and the top military leadership of Russia confirms the strong intellectual, scientific, technical and production potential of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex capable of creating products competitive on world arms markets,” the head of the state concern said Friday international defense exhibition held in Nizhny Tagil.

At the Ukrainian booth, full-scale models of the BMP-1M infantry fighting vehicle with the Shkval combat module and tank T-72B.

Tank T-72B clearly demonstrated the capabilities and prospects of the Ukrainian industry in the repair and modernization of armored vehicles. This area is in great demand in the world, and experts highly appreciate the chances of Ukraine to get lucrative orders for the modernization of armored vehicles. First of all, we are talking about countries that are armed with a large number of Soviet-made vehicles.
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  1. nickname bj
    +2
    13 September 2011 10: 10
    Well done. What else can I say ...
  2. jamert
    +2
    13 September 2011 12: 09
    If you bought yourself. otherwise it’s only shown at exhibitions.
    1. Bogatir
      -2
      13 September 2011 17: 36
      Long standing already
  3. svvaulsh
    0
    13 September 2011 13: 59
    What will SuperDuck say? Like I heard they developed 6TD.
    1. Bogatir
      -1
      13 September 2011 17: 46
      And what does "developed" mean? For a long time they have stood at 1000, 1200 around the world. And at 1500 it is shown in Tagil.
      That is:
      http://www.ukrspecexport.com/photo/tagil/SIP_5562.JPG
      http://www.ukrspecexport.com/photo/tagil/SIP_5112.JPG
      http://www.ukrspecexport.com/photo/tagil/SIP_5697.JPG
      http://www.ukrspecexport.com/photo/tagil/SIP_5663.JPG
      http://www.ukrspecexport.com/photo/tagil/SIP_5715.JPG

      The head of the Ukroboronprom state concern Dmitry Salamatin has no doubts that the potential of the Ukrainian defense industry complex in the field of armored vehicles will be in demand on the world arms market.
      "The high assessment given to Ukrainian military equipment by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and the top military leadership of Russia is a confirmation of the strong intellectual, scientific, technical and production potential of the defense industry of Ukraine, capable of creating products that are competitive on world arms markets," the head of the state concern said on Friday during the international defense exhibition held in Nizhny Tagil (RF).
      At the same time, as the state-owned Ukrspetsexport informed the Interfax-Ukraine agency, D. Salamatin expressed confidence that the capabilities of the national defense industry complex demonstrated in Nizhny Tagil in the repair and modernization of armored vehicles allow counting on the expansion of Ukraine's military-technical cooperation with foreign states.
      “Now we have to consolidate our success. We expect that our proposals in this area will be in demand by potential customers,” he said.
      Ukraine will present at the 8th International Defense Exhibition in Nizhny Tagil on September 8-11, an infantry fighting vehicle BMP-1 with a Shkval combat module, a modernized T-72B tank, and a new 5TDFM tank engine.
      On Friday, the Russian booth at the exhibition was visited by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who, following the results of his acquaintance with Ukrainian developments, highlighted the good market prospects of the new tank engine, which had already caused increased interest of specialists and potential customers at the exhibition. It is expected that the armored vehicles based on it will be in great demand in countries with harsh climatic conditions: in Asia and Africa.
      As part of the exhibition, Ukraine has already discussed with Russia the prospects for cooperation in armored vehicles. Ukrainian armored vehicles also received high marks from the Deputy Minister of Defense, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation Nikolai Makarov.
      1. Bogatir
        0
        13 September 2011 18: 09
        Here are the links and photos:




  4. zczczc
    0
    13 September 2011 15: 28
    Putin needs to call Ukraine into the Customs Union with the promise of purchasing this engine for our tanks. You look, and catch up.
    1. svvaulsh
      0
      13 September 2011 15: 34
      Yes, they are not even being discounted for gas, not like engines!
      1. Bogatir
        -3
        13 September 2011 17: 42
        So far, everything is being led to the fact that in addition to YaMZ in Ukraine, in Russia all engines will be Ukrainian.
        1. zczczc
          0
          13 September 2011 17: 44
          Do not understand, translate? YaMZ is Yaroslavl.
          1. Bogatir
            -3
            13 September 2011 17: 51
            Yes, Ukraine is buying YaMZ so far, and Russia has a lot of engines in Ukraine. It is likely that 6TD will be taken.
    2. Bogatir
      -3
      13 September 2011 17: 39
      Ukraine does not want to TS. And the engine for the Russian tank is being worked out at No. 1.
    3. Bogatir
      -3
      13 September 2011 17: 52
      Ukraine is already on the verge of association with the EU. TS - Ukraine is not interested.
      1. +2
        14 September 2011 00: 22
        Ukraine is already on the verge of association with the EU.

        First, carefully read the Treaty on the European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Community, as well as all amendments to it, then think about whether your country is suitable for the criteria specified there. I'm afraid the fate of Yugoslavia (Serbia) awaits you.
    4. +4
      13 September 2011 19: 22
      I’m happy for Ukraine! You don’t have to call anyone, you have to decide for yourself! But it’s time for us to invest in a new engine ourselves. And for a long time, the new motor industry was not announced with the stigma Made in Russia
      1. 0
        19 February 2012 17: 05
        Quote: APASUS
        But it’s time we ourselves have already invested in a new engine. And for a long time, the new motor industry with the stigma was not announced

        A series of articles on Russian engines
        http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2011/09/blog-post_02.html
        http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2011/09/2_06.html
        http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2011/09/3.html
        http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2011/10/normal-0-false-false-false-ru-x-none-x.html
        http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2011/10/5.html
        http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2011/10/6.html
        http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2011/10/7.html
        http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2011/10/8.html
        http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2011/10/9_28.html
  5. Siberian
    +1
    13 September 2011 15: 34
    I don’t know, I don’t know ... Who ever served on the T-64 tanks (A, B, etc.) will probably agree with me that the predecessor (5TDF) was a very moody and unreliable engine.
    1. Bogatir
      -3
      13 September 2011 17: 43
      Clumsy hands were for 5TDF. Now there is no alternative to the TD series, at least half the world in diesel engines.
  6. -1
    13 September 2011 17: 48
    850 hp is not enough for a tank.
    Even, the model 5TDFMA with a capacity of 1050 hp is not suitable for a promising tank
    For special. platforms (self-propelled guns, ZSU, SAM) will still fit, but for the tank, obviously not enough power.
    Promising diesel engines should develop 2000 hp.
    1. zczczc
      +1
      13 September 2011 17: 51
      Yes, but with such energy costs, you really can begin to think that this is a dead end branch of armaments. 2000 bald is not a joke, and the mass of the motor, and the expense, and heat removal - all this is a problem.

      But the armor must be developed - it should be easier and more reusable. And the effectiveness of weapons must be increased.
      1. Bogatir
        -2
        13 September 2011 17: 59
        2000 hp is.
      2. 0
        13 September 2011 18: 11
        An increase in tank mass to 70 tons is inevitable.
        To increase firepower and protection, you will have to sacrifice mass.
        Now, an MBT armed with a 152 mm gun is being developed (presumably).
        Quite the right direction, however, the mass of 55 tons is clearly insufficient for a machine with similar weapons.
        70t is the mass limit for MBT, and one should dance from here, optimally squeezing the maximum fire parameter and protection from the mass.
        For a 70-ton MBT, a 2000l.s diesel is needed
        This is not an easy task, but it must be solved.
        1. Bogatir
          -3
          13 September 2011 18: 21
          - For Russia 55t. - the ceiling, and not only for Russia.
          In Russia and the 1000s there is no normal tank, but by 2000 there’s nothing to say, and there’s nothing to it ... Unless for diesel locomotives, but something else.
          1. 0
            13 September 2011 18: 25
            Yes, unfortunately for the Russian Federation - the ceiling, however, the United States practices MBT weighing 70 tons.
            Need to pull up.
            I am sure that a Russian tank with the same mass as that of the Abrams will be 50 percent more powerful and protected.
          2. gans
            +1
            13 September 2011 23: 04
            in Russia there is everything, this year 1500 hp diesel engine was successfully tested in Chelyabinsk
            1. Bogatir
              -2
              13 September 2011 23: 47
              Where does the information come from?
    2. Bogatir
      -3
      13 September 2011 17: 54
      850 is more than on the T-90 with an output gearbox and a selection for cooling. 5TDFA - this is an approximation of the power of T-72 to T-80 and O.478
      1. 0
        13 September 2011 18: 38
        6TD-5 is currently being developed
        1800l.s
        Such power may well be considered satisfactory for MBT weighing 70 tons
        Russia should cooperate with Ukraine in the field of tank engine building, this is a promising direction.
        1. Bogatir
          -3
          13 September 2011 19: 15
          Quote: Ivan Tarasov
          Such power may well be considered satisfactory for MBT weighing 70 tons

          Russia is the birthplace of elephants - it was and will be, but 70t. - it does not shine.
          Quote: Ivan Tarasov
          6TD-5 is currently being developed

          Special works on 6TD-4 (1800) are not conducted.
          Quote: Ivan Tarasov
          Russia should cooperate with Ukraine in the field of tank engine building, this is a promising direction.

          - Many buy TD, which Russia can not? By the way - this engine should have been uniform in all tanks for a long time, but the collapse of the union prevented these plans.
  7. Bogatir
    -2
    13 September 2011 17: 48
    On engines of the TD series - half the world is transplanted. Egyptians, Iraqis. Pakistanis, Indians, Peruvians, etc. ...
    1. gans
      +1
      13 September 2011 23: 06
      blacks don't understand anything in engines
      1. Bogatir
        -1
        13 September 2011 23: 48
        The Chinese too?
      2. Superduck
        0
        17 September 2011 13: 03
        And some in Russian do not understand
  8. Bogatir
    0
    13 September 2011 18: 01
    By the way, in the photo news - 6TD-3. 1500ls - the second best tank diesel of its class in the world.
    http://otvaga2004.mybb.ru/uploads/000a/e3/16/123758-2-f.jpg
  9. Bogatir
    -2
    13 September 2011 18: 05
    In the photo news, the second best engine in the world of its class - 6TD-3.
    1. svvaulsh
      +4
      13 September 2011 19: 36
      Bogatyr, thanks for the detailed information, but I don’t understand why they announced 5TD, and not 6. Further, I believe that each national army should be self-sufficient and not depend on foreign components, especially such as engines. Since Ukraine is a different state (no matter how regrettable it is, especially since I myself am a Ukrainian), not so long ago declaring the goal of joining NATO, Russia should develop and implement its own engines for its equipment.
      1. Bogatir
        -6
        13 September 2011 20: 13
        Quote: svvaulsh
        why they announced 5TD, not 6

        - News about 5TDF, the best in its class. He stands on Bulat, at the exhibition stands on the T-72AG.
        6TD-3 was presented at the stand of Ukrspetsexport. I don’t know what the news is; maybe the toad is strangling.
        Quote: svvaulsh
        especially as engines

        - And if they are not? MTU-883 and TD are only sold in the world.
        Quote: svvaulsh
        recently declared the goal of joining NATO

        - Nothing seems to have changed. In any case - Iveco, Renault, Frechia, Mistral, etc. you do not mind something. So the reason is in another.
        Quote: svvaulsh
        sadly to realize this, especially since I myself am a Ukrainian

        “That is the reason.” They can scatter Ukraine in a frequent characteristic spirit only - Russians living in Ukraine, Ukrainians living in Russia and half-breeds. This has long been known.
        Quote: svvaulsh
        Russia should develop and implement its own engines for its equipment.

        “Where can I get them?”
        1. svvaulsh
          +1
          13 September 2011 20: 23
          I was disappointed. According to the latest comments. I thought you were smarter.
          1. Bogatir
            -3
            13 September 2011 20: 39
            You are not me - I have been reading you for a long time ...
        2. His
          +1
          13 September 2011 23: 12
          What is the state of Ukraine? Where is it located? And you're talking about motors ....
          1. Bogatir
            0
            13 September 2011 23: 49
            Where tank engines are likely to be exported to are coupled to aircraft, helicopter and ship.
            1. gans
              +1
              14 September 2011 08: 00
              Papuans can and will be, but we do not
              1. Bogatir
                0
                14 September 2011 17: 47
                So what Russia will not buy - helicopter, aircraft and ship engines?
                1. +1
                  14 September 2011 17: 54
                  Quote about helicopter engines, about others, I think everything will be the same (or anything personal, just business):
                  As part of the import substitution program in Russia, it is planned to deploy full-scale serial production of helicopter engines from 2013.

                  "Helicopter engines of the TV3-117 / VK-2500 type will be produced in Russia from 2013," Andrey Shibitov, General Director of the Russian Helicopters holding, told Interfax.

                  According to him, today the situation with engines for helicopters is complicated: not a single helicopter engine has yet been serially produced in the Russian Federation. "The most widespread helicopter engine TV3-117 and its more powerful version VK-2500, as is known, are produced in Ukraine," Shibitov recalled.

                  The volume of production of helicopters in Russia over the past 4 years has almost doubled, and in 2009 it will reach 200 aircraft, but all of them are equipped with Ukrainian engines.
                  1. Bogatir
                    -1
                    14 September 2011 18: 33
                    There will be a screwdriver assembly from Ukrainian machine kits. VK-2500 is a Ukrainian slightly redesigned Ukrainian engine, which, by the way, is put in a wrong way.
                  2. Bogatir
                    0
                    14 September 2011 18: 45
                    Screwdriver assembly, and what is given for assembly from Ukrainian car kits ... - That’s worse than what is being done in Ukraine.
                    VK-2500 is a converted Zaporozhye engine. All cars for export are delivered only with Ukrainian engines.
                    VK-2500 is not really where to put it. Holy others.
                    Another trick is that car kits supply less than engines are manufactured. - This suggests that the converted old ones are sold as new VK-2500s - they drive counterfeit goods. Togo helicopters and fall, as counterfeit goes only to the domestic market.
      2. Splin
        0
        14 September 2011 06: 41
        5TDFMA for the modernization of the entire Soviet tank fleet. It is enough to head on tanks weighing up to 48 tons.
        And in Ukraine, in general, in May 2010, a resolution was adopted defining non-aligned status.
        1. Bogatir
          -1
          14 September 2011 17: 48
          There is no arguing against the will of the people.
      3. Superduck
        +1
        17 September 2011 13: 06
        Quote: svvaulsh
        Thank you for the detailed information, but I don’t understand why 5TD was announced, not 6.

        Because at this exhibition Ukraine provided only kits and equipment for the modernization of production equipment of the USSR, and 6td for the modernization of the t-72 is somehow silly to use and the five is just right. I don’t know why the products of the new generation were not exhibited, I suspect that there was an agreement with the organizers of the exhibition.
    2. 0
      18 February 2012 20: 47
      Quote: Bogatir
      In the photo news, the second best engine in the world of its class - 6TD-3.

      Interestingly, fuel and oil consumption is not indicated (on the manufacturer’s website the fuel consumption is indicated at the level of our four-stroke fuel, and the oil consumption is almost half that of the B-92).
      Also, such an important indicator for a tank engine as the torque reserve is not indicated. For example, a V-92C2 engine (1000 l / s, weight 1020 kg) has a coefficient of 25 ... 30%.
      Declared motor resource where?

      What is the lack of information on these indicators? The fact that they are proud of nothing.
  10. Bogatir
    -1
    13 September 2011 20: 18
    Here is the T-72AG:

    And here is 5TDF:
  11. 0
    13 September 2011 23: 23
    An increase in tank mass to 70 tons is inevitable.

    Everyone follows the path of facilitating armor, what kind of monster will it be? something like the Apocalypse tank, the direct heir to the Mammoth from Red Allert 2,3?
  12. gans
    +3
    13 September 2011 23: 26

    our diesel to ours
    mu tank
    1. Bogatir
      -1
      13 September 2011 23: 52
      12N360 - is there?
      1. Bogatir
        -2
        14 September 2011 00: 11
        And in general I do not understand what relation he has to this news.
  13. -1
    14 September 2011 01: 38
    In fact, the article "Ukrainians" are ahead of us .. in this area .. in principle, they created the best engines in the USSR for tanks.
    1. gans
      -3
      14 September 2011 08: 04
      what fool said that?
      1. Bogatir
        -2
        14 September 2011 17: 49
        - Yes, there’s one about:

    2. Bogatir
      -3
      14 September 2011 17: 49
      And the tanks too.
  14. +2
    29 March 2012 22: 42
    and cars too (ZAZ)

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