Does the Libyan war develop into a people's stage?

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Does the Libyan war develop into a people's stage? interesting news come from Libya. Apparently, there is a possibility that ours is waiting for another stage of the Libyan war. On September 12, ITAR-TASS reported that Libyan rebels were preparing for a new assault on Bani Valid, and that fierce battles continued at Sirte, using rocket artillery, mortars, aviation NATO.

Speaking in a simple way - two days of the storming of Bani Walid ended without positive results for the PNS, the stories about the heroic seizure of almost the entire city turned out to be just another misinformation. The rebels are once again preparing to take Bani Walid once again.

This time, Gaddafi’s snipers have been named the main problem of the stormtroopers, and for some reason they don’t let the rebels take this town. According to the rebel military representative Abdullah Kanshil, 17 rebels died or were injured from their fire. The rebels never learned how to fight after the assault on Tripoli - the 17 people have lost and already retreated during the “assault on the city”. At the same time, it turned out that, in addition to the snipers of Bani Walid, it was not government units that defended, but about one thousand warfalla warriors. The emergence of militia seriously changes the situation on this front. In addition, 11-th in the victorious reports of the rebels the city center was confidently called taken under complete control of the PNS, 12-th revealed that the gangs did not reach him 2-2,5 km. In general, if you look at a map of the city on Google, you can see that the size of Bani Walid as a whole is such that 2-2,5 km from the center is the outskirts. Here in the suburbs yesterday's offensive stopped.

Failures under Bani Walid are superimposed on a completely deplorable situation for the rebels near Sirte. There, apparently, the situation for them is no better. And this is despite the brutal bombing of the NATO air force, and the shelling of the city. There is no significant advancement of the rebel forces. Apparently, and there the city is not protected by a handful of Gadhafi’s last associates, but by the people's militia. Given the factor that Sirt is the tribal nest of the Gaddafi tribe, they will not surrender. When taking the city they are waiting for genocide.

The information from Sebha is also very vague and sad for the rebels. Cyrenaica completely plunged into revolutionary chaos. If, prior to the capture of the capital of Libya, the eastern front was the main one, now there is no movement of rebel forces from the east. It seems that in the east everyone is busy with carving and clarifying the relationship with each other, and they simply don’t care for Gaddafi and his supporters. The fact of a hasty move, in fact, the flight of the PNS from Benghazi, is supported by a complete informational vacuum in this area in recent days.

This news, or lack thereof, may lead to the following conclusions. The Alliance of Rebels and NATO forces, taking the capital of Libya, for some unknown reason failed to develop its success (some experts talk about heavy losses in Tripoli), giving the government of Gaddafi time to regroup, regain control of loyal units and forces, to rebuild defense. Now, supporters of Gaddafi have received reinforcements in the face of the militias, who have a great advantage over the recruitment of Libyan rebels from the mercenaries - they protect their hometowns. The war gradually begins to turn into a national one, as the leader of the Jamahiriya said. There is no other explanation for such persistent resistance.

The people's war has its own peculiarity - the militia will fiercely defend their cities and their tribal territory, however, having repulsed the attacks of the rebels, they are unlikely to want to go further, and if they go, their combat capability will fall as they move away from their territory. This is the problem of the Colonel. Libyan leader to solve it. Perhaps somewhere in relatively calm places in the south of Libya will form new units that will become the basis of the new army of Gaddafi.

The war finally goes into a stage of protracted conflict. The West will have to decide whether to again carry out local land operations, or to contribute to the final collapse of Libya. It is clear that the Libyan rebels alone will not be able to break the resistance of the militia and government units, and the termination of air support will automatically lead to the military defeat of the Transitional National Council of Libya.

Other news

Gaddafi went on the air again. The leader of the Jamahiriya, Muammar Gaddafi, accused the Libyan opposition of betraying its people, yielding to "foreign influence," and promised to continue the fight against traitors and interventionists, the Associated Press reported on Monday.

The short address of the Colonel was broadcast on Monday on the Syrian television channel Al-Rai by its owner, the former Iraqi deputy Mishan al-Jaburi. Gaddafi called opposition supporters, PNS traitors to the motherland, who decided to transfer the oil wealth of Libya to foreign corporations.

China recognized the PNS as the legitimate government of Libya. As stated by the official Beijing, the Libyan PNS is "the ruling power of Libya and representatives of the Libyan people," the BBC reported, citing Chinese media. Until recently, China remained one of the few powers that did not recognize the power of the Libyan rebels, claiming that the Transitional National Council was only a party to negotiations with the legitimate authorities of the Jamahiriya. The legitimacy of the authorities of Gaddafi - Bolivia, Venezuela, Cuba, Ecuador, Erytheria, Zimbabwe, Syria, is still supported.
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  1. +2
    13 September 2011 09: 05
    On the 12th it turned out that the gangs did not reach him 2-2,5 km.

    It’s right to call a spade a spade,
    1. ballian
      -5
      13 September 2011 09: 59
      "... it turned out that the bandit formations did not reach him."
      ___________
      Is the author so clueless ?? Russia recognized the PNS as the government of Libya on September 1. Now Gaddafi has "gangs" :)
      ==================
      "... and the termination of air support will automatically lead to the military defeat of the Transitional National Council of Libya."
      ______________
      And why on earth? Gaddafi has so much left from the army? In order to advance it is necessary to have big strengths, + the local population is not fond of Gaddafi in the East, and in many areas of the West of Libya - the same thing.
      1. dmb
        0
        13 September 2011 11: 56
        Funny logic, Russia determines who is the bandit and who is not.
  2. jamert
    -1
    13 September 2011 12: 04
    They said the same thing about Tripoli. They’ll take it, they won’t go anywhere.
  3. Muhabi
    +11
    13 September 2011 12: 51
    Gaddafi well done! Almost all supporters around the world turned his back on him, but he still fights to the end. But the betrayal of Russia is especially insulting.
  4. Crazyzy
    +6
    13 September 2011 14: 05
    NATO dropped leaflets in the city of Bani Walid.
    They urge each family to surrender, and in case of surrender they will receive 500 thousand dinars per family ... On the other side of the leaflets it is written: if they do not surrender, they will be bombarded with white phosphorus.
    The Bani Valida tribal response was:
    "We will not give up or betray the country, and we are ready to serve God and destiny."
    This is the answer of people who were born brave.
    Victory or martyrdom.
    1. +3
      13 September 2011 14: 09
      I looked now what it is, was shocked
      ".... When this substance gets on the skin, it causes irreparable injuries - the meat burns to the bone. Clothes may not burn, white phosphorus penetrates under clothes. If you inhale this mixture, it affects the respiratory tract and lungs and burns a person from the inside.
      It is an incendiary weapon that can be used against enemy personnel. "
      ".. A characteristic sign of phosphorus burns is a kind of garlic smell, glow in the dark, when the crust is broken, the wound begins to smoke (glowing and smoking wounds). White phosphorus is absorbed into the blood, exerting a resorptive effect (in mild cases, clinically it is weakness, dizziness, headache , bradycardia, nausea, in severe cases - disorders of the central nervous system, cardiovascular system, liver - pain, jaundice, hepatomegaly, bile pigments in urine, punctate hemorrhages on the skin, hematuria, weak arrhythmic pulse, hypotension, sharp nervous excitement with a transition to coma)."
      "..a characteristic feature of the phosphoric bomb is the charring of organic tissue while preserving clothing."
      Well, who are they if they go for it, people?
      1. svvaulsh
        +2
        13 September 2011 16: 07
        There is no humane weapon, there is a goal of war, and it is achieved by all possible means. No matter how cruel and cynical it sounds! And how to understand a humane or non-humane weapon if it kills both this and that!
        1. +1
          13 September 2011 16: 33
          Well, yes, you can just die, or you can from torture, what's the difference, you still die?

          If THESE go to such a thing, I hope not, if their politicians should be shoved into sulfuric acid ... slowly. No matter how cruel and cynical it sounds!
          1. jamert
            -4
            13 September 2011 16: 38
            Let's think up what nonhumans from NATO use chemical weapons. By the way, old Gaddafi had a lot of him.
            No facts, no evidence, no evidence ...
            1. +1
              13 September 2011 16: 54
              Old man Gaddafi has not yet used it in this war. Have you noticed the subjunctive "If" in my commentary? I am not saying that NATO has already applied it, I myself have just read the comment about the leaflets. So your phrase
              Quote: jamert
              Let's think up what nonhumans from NATO use chemical weapons.
              in this case is inappropriate.
              I think it doesn’t cause any doubts http://www.new-garbage.com/?id=12734&page=1
            2. Crazyzy
              +3
              13 September 2011 16: 57
              Allen Jules "NATO used chemical weapons in Libya"
              Source (there is a video of eyewitness accounts in English): http://allainjules.com/2011/09/12/libye-lotan-a-raye-tawarga-bombes-sales-a-bani
              -walid /
          2. svvaulsh
            +1
            13 September 2011 17: 05
            I'm not talking about "just dying", I'm talking about methods, about an end that is justified by any means.
            1. 0
              14 September 2011 00: 36
              The Americans in Iraq used a PSU with depleted uranium, how many are still lying there, no one knows ...
            2. 0
              14 September 2011 09: 55
              Then it's just a matter of the lack of morality in these "people". There are no SUCH goals to destroy people. Normal people.
  5. Siberian
    +1
    13 September 2011 15: 12
    All these "entertaining" things the Americans have long been used on a large scale in Indochina. So, they are unlikely to experience remorse.
  6. hellbringer
    +1
    13 September 2011 15: 20
    When I first read about Mukhamorych's tripoli delivery, I remembered "It's not for nothing that Skazhik's uncle ...", now I read the article and realized that it was not for nothing.
    Regarding white phosphorus, the wiki says: "The use of white phosphorus is prohibited by the UN convention in 1980. The US has not signed this convention." I think that it will backfire on them, this time with real terrorist attacks and not initiated by the Pindos themselves.
  7. 0
    13 September 2011 15: 30
    In the case of the use of these weapons, the case may be referred to the UN. They will recognize (surely) the need for peace, will introduce peacekeepers ... Further on, it is possible not to continue.
  8. Crazyzy
    +6
    13 September 2011 15: 32
    NATO needs to at least somehow save face.
    Damn it, 7 months!
    The city of Ben Walid is fighting, despite the NATO bombing.
    The city of Sirte is fighting, despite the NATO bombing, turned into an impregnable fortress. In Sebhi the same picture is observed.
    Tripoli, the capital of Libya, and other Libyan cities and towns are embraced by the partisan movement. A column of military vehicles with Gaddafi's loyalists crossed the desert and attacked at dawn an office building at the entrance to the Ras Lanuf refinery.
    On September 12, a powerful explosion shook Tripoli International Airport. There are dead and wounded. Libyan Resistance continues!

    Khamis al-Gaddafi has risen five times, and today he is on his land.
    The bet on betrayal of the Berbers - shamefully failed, if these same Berbers - guard M. Gaddafi!
    Muammar Gaddafi is the worst nightmare for NATO!
    1. jamert
      -6
      13 September 2011 16: 28
      UUUUUUUUU .... Let's talk in a month.
      1. Crazyzy
        +4
        13 September 2011 16: 53
        What shall we talk about ?
        The fact that the small victorious war that was started by the West dragged on for 7 months.
        That the Libyans are resisting the invaders and "traitors from Benghazi"?
        1. ballian
          -1
          14 September 2011 21: 40
          Type in Benghazi not Libyans live and aliens?
          Are you so aware that it was precisely the "West" that started the "small victorious war"? Where do you see the "invaders" there - on the "Tornado" and "Mirages" Libya is directly captured?
          Have you betrayed the "real colonel"? Ayyay-yay - what bad guys.
          1. Crazyzy
            +1
            15 September 2011 15: 02
            ballian
            Take off finally the pink glasses and look at the world with different eyes.
            Who was the first to attack the government troops? - France.
            Who was the first to recognize the PNS? - France.
            Who dropped containers of weapons to the rebels? - France.
            Who will receive 35% of Libyan oil for helping rebels? - France.
            Which countries' special forces participated in the assault on Tripoli?
            Which countries instructors trained the rebels?
            French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister David Cameron flew to Tripoli Airport on the morning of September 15.
            Do you still need facts ???
    2. 0
      15 September 2011 15: 04
      Well, yes, in Yugoslavia they dealt faster
  9. svvaulsh
    0
    13 September 2011 15: 47
    One thing is clear! - It's unclear!
    1. andreypilot
      +1
      13 September 2011 16: 04
      you can’t figure it out without a bottle or a huge teapot with green tea, that's for sure smile
  10. Crazyzy
    +1
    13 September 2011 16: 19
    The war in Libya took on a “wrapping” (operetta) character, this is when we see, hear and read, there is a candy wrapper, like a candy wrapper. “Bright, beautiful, etc.” made by western media! But inside this candy wrapper is a rotten “plan of the West”, which means the victory of M. Gaddafi! And the whole point of the war for NATO came down to only one thing: to bomb, to bomb, as revenge on the people, for their loyalty to their Leader!
  11. Max
    Max
    -1
    13 September 2011 16: 24
    In war, all means are good, lady
    1. 0
      13 September 2011 16: 34
      Well, yes, especially if this is considered a revolution, not a war.
  12. +1
    13 September 2011 16: 38
    Gaddafi has no chance. As a winner, he will not return. The maximum that he can at the head of his tribe hold a piece of the territory of Libya. Yes, and they won’t let him. They will forget all their disagreements and make him a karachun, and then cut each other's throats. But if the country is not put together, then maybe they will remember it with a kind word. But present Libya has a chance, since there is a large source of money (Libyan oil per capita was heaps).
  13. +1
    13 September 2011 16: 46
    SAS and GIGN, Qatar specialists and others can again give them and to storm the last strongholds of Gaddafi. And the proud Libyan rebels will also take these "Stalingrad".
  14. 0
    13 September 2011 21: 02
    kagorta, and if they don’t? feel
    1. 0
      13 September 2011 21: 07
      Then Gaddafi’s chance to keep a piece of Libya under him, but is there any oil there and they will give the pipeline to buyers to bring a big question. This will give.
  15. +1
    13 September 2011 23: 19
    Gaddafi proved to the whole world that he is a warrior, not a rag, moreover wise. And what will happen next is only known to God.
  16. +1
    14 September 2011 09: 23
    As one literary hero said, everything is shrouded in the darkness of obscurity. But it is worth noting that the so-called "Libyan rebels" or as they are called by the European liberals of the NTC, will now divide Libya for a long time and they have yet to establish a normal life in the country, but one thing is already clear there will be no stability in Libya .....
    1. zczczc
      +1
      14 September 2011 15: 23
      They are not PNS, but PMS.
    2. 0
      14 September 2011 15: 33
      Yeah, in iraq and afghanistan they have already "established", and in kosovo - just a standard of democracy ...