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Planned Navy Replenishment in 2015

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Last year, the Russian navy received three new submarines, five warships and several types of 10 combat boats. In addition, the Navy began operating several support vessels of various types. In 2015, the construction of new ships and submarines will continue. Over the next 12 months it is planned to lay new ships, build already laid down and complete tests preparing to surrender. Consider plans for 2015 year.


This year, the Russian Navy was to receive the first helicopter landing ship “Vladivostok”, built in France according to the Mistral project. The construction of this ship was completed last year. In the fall, it should have been handed over to Russian shipbuilders, whose task is to install weapons and various equipment. However, due to political reasons, official Paris does not allow shipbuilders to hand over the ship to the customer, due to which the ship’s prospects have not yet been determined. Meanwhile, the French shipbuilders are completing the installation of the second ship of the same type.

At the very end of last year, the acceptance certificate was signed for the lead reconnaissance ship of the 18280 project - “Yuri Ivanov”. In early February, a solemn flag raising ceremony will be held, after which the ship will become part of the Russian Navy.

Planned Navy Replenishment in 2015


Last November, sea trials of the Admiral frigate began. fleet Kasatonov ”project 22350. A little later, another ship of this project,“ Admiral Golovko ”, was launched. If all the work will go on schedule and do not encounter any difficulties, then this year both frigates can be transferred to the fleet. It is worth noting that the delivery of "Admiral Golovko" can take place only next year, since the ship is not yet ready for the start of testing.



The construction of the 11356P / M frigates continues. The lead frigate of the project, the Admiral Grigorovich, is already undergoing mooring tests. It is expected that in February the ship will begin sea trials, which will be completed before the end of this year. In spring, the tests of the Admiral Essen, the second frigate of this project, should begin. In the absence of serious problems, they can also pass it by the end of the year.



Not so long ago, the deadlines for the delivery of the large landing ship Ivan Gren of the 11711 project were once again shifted. Construction of this ship began back in 2004, and in 2012 it was launched. For various reasons, the construction of the ship was delayed, which is why it has not yet come to the test. In the best case, the delivery of the ship may take place at the end of this year, although there is every reason to believe such plans are too optimistic.



In June last year, the launch of the base minesweeper “Alexander Obukhov”, built according to the 12700 project, took place. Currently, tests of the ship and its systems are underway. Delivery to the fleet is scheduled for the fourth quarter of 2015.



Until the end of the year, the Black Sea Fleet will receive two new submarines of the 636.3 Varshavyanka project. Two submarines of this type ("Novorossiysk" and "Rostov-on-Don") have already been transferred to the fleet and entered into its combat strength. The third submarine of the project, "Stary Oskol", is preparing for sea trials, the fourth, "Krasnodar", is being completed. By the autumn of 2015, both submarines of the 636.3 project must be handed over to the fleet.



The 2015 year is scheduled for delivery of two small missile ships of the project 21631 "Buyan-M". Three such ships last year were transferred to the Caspian Flotilla. This year, the first two "Buyana-M" are supposed to be transferred to the Black Sea Fleet. In total, Black Sea sailors will receive six small rocket ships of a new type.



Since 2013, the construction of the 03160 Raptor patrol boats has been underway. In accordance with the existing contract, the Pella plant (St. Petersburg) is to build eight such boats. Most of the boats ordered will be handed over to the navy this year.



By the end of the year it is planned to build and deliver to the customer four multi-purpose sea rescue tugs of the 02980 project. The lead ship of the project was launched at the end of October last year. Also in the autumn of last year, the third tug was laid. The pace of construction work on new tugs suggests that the order for the construction of four vessels will be completed before the end of 2015.

In addition to the four existing large hydrographic boats of the 19920 project, this year it is planned to commission three more. The eighth and last of the ordered boats will be built later. All three boats scheduled for delivery in 2015 will serve as part of the Pacific Fleet.

At the end of December, the head rescue ship of the 21300 project - “Igor Belousov” - was put to factory testing. To date, completed the first stage of testing. The first inspections of the onboard systems of the vessel were completed, and tests of the Bester-1 deep-sea rescue apparatus began. A rescue ship with a set of special equipment should be part of the Navy by the end of this year.



In the first half of the year, the fleet should receive the lead logistic support vessel for the 23120 project. The ship "Elbrus" was supposed to pass at the end of last year, but for several reasons, the dates have shifted to the right. "Elbrus" will serve as part of the Northern Fleet. The construction of two serial ships of the project 23120.

In early November last year, Zelenodolsk plant them. Gorky launched the Sviyaga transport floating dock of the 22570 project. This dock will be used to transport vessels of the appropriate size on inland waterways. Currently "Sviyaga" is being tested. Official delivery to the fleet is scheduled for 2015 year.



In the light of plans for the construction and delivery of new ships for the navy 2015, the year is not the easiest, but important. This year it is planned to complete a number of “long-term construction projects”, which for a long time made it difficult to update the fleet. In addition, much attention is paid to the construction of supply vessels of various types and classes. Although the 2015 year will not be able to boast much success in quantitative terms, the planned work has a high priority and is important in the context of the current update of the Navy equipment.


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  1. ps-1972
    ps-1972 20 January 2015 06: 39
    13
    I am glad that they began to introduce more new warships. Especially on the Black Sea!
    1. sub307
      sub307 20 January 2015 06: 55
      15
      It pleases, pleases ..., especially, I think, those who were "lucky" to serve in the first half of the 90s of the last century and personally observe what they were doing with the fleet then.
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. just exp
      just exp 20 January 2015 08: 22
      +6
      nothing pleases, as the liberals will now again explain to us that Putin has ruined the shipbuilding industry.
      and if you cite this article as an argument against them, they will say that again the damned Putin shoves people instead of oil guns.
    4. Civil
      Civil 20 January 2015 17: 13
      +6
      "Ivan Gren", poor uncle Vanya in the next world curses everyone for the deadline,
      1. Eggor
        Eggor 20 January 2015 18: 14
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        "Ivan Gren", poor uncle Vanya in the next world curses everyone for the deadline,
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  2. malikszh
    malikszh 20 January 2015 07: 13
    +6
    Last November, sea trials of the frigate Admiral of the Kasatonov fleet of project 22350 began - Kasatonov has not yet begun the test, the test is underway to Gorshkov. Kasatonov does not have an engine.
    1. altman
      altman 20 January 2015 16: 20
      0
      How could the name of the frigates be confused ...
    2. Dog of war
      Dog of war 20 January 2015 19: 41
      0
      To be precise, one is, but the second is trying to bring to life.
    3. The cat
      The cat 20 January 2015 21: 25
      0
      Quote: malikszh
      Last November, sea trials of the frigate Admiral of the Kasatonov fleet of project 22350 began - Kasatonov has not yet begun the test, the test is underway to Gorshkov. Kasatonov does not have an engine.


      The facts are not very competent, but where is pr.20380 / 20385? And it is unlikely that both Buyan will be this year. Just to write, quality suffers
  3. Dangerous
    Dangerous 20 January 2015 07: 34
    +1
    What about the submarine?
    1. skiff-xnumx
      skiff-xnumx 20 January 2015 08: 40
      +6
      The nuclear submarine will not be in 15 for sure, and at 16 it is also doubtful if only Kazan would be lowered under the tree. Mass descent and entry should be expected only in 17-18 years. bookmarked late.
      1. Byshido_dis
        Byshido_dis 20 January 2015 18: 02
        0
        Very sorry((
  4. Utlan
    Utlan 20 January 2015 08: 22
    +1
    According to my information, two high-speed patrol boats of the Sobol project will be transferred to the fleet by the end of the year. Built at the Almaz plant in St. Petersburg.
  5. Teberii
    Teberii 20 January 2015 08: 23
    +1
    New ships are good. Especially strengthen the Black Sea fleet.
  6. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 20 January 2015 08: 26
    0
    "Less is better!" ..
  7. Wiruz
    Wiruz 20 January 2015 09: 23
    +1
    I would like to know when the laying of the sixth frigate 11356 for the Black Sea Fleet is planned, and is it planned at all?
    1. Sailor
      Sailor 20 January 2015 12: 04
      +2
      I read somewhere that the 6th was sadly postponed until better times.
      1. skiff-xnumx
        skiff-xnumx 20 January 2015 17: 18
        +2
        You're not right. The sixth is laid as soon as the slipway is vacated. Plan (if the stars converge) Q2 2015
  8. Wiruz
    Wiruz 20 January 2015 09: 24
    0
    Still a couple of frigates and submarines in the Baltic hi
    1. Gans1234
      Gans1234 20 January 2015 22: 09
      +2
      BF - a symbolic fleet. 4 corvettes for the eyes.
      Right now there is a saturation of the Black Sea Fleet and the Northern Fleet, Pacific Fleet somehow in the background, the ships will go to it later than all
  9. NEXUS
    NEXUS 20 January 2015 09: 46
    +2
    and what about the destroyers we have? It seems like the information about the Leaders was ...
    1. just exp
      just exp 20 January 2015 10: 04
      +2
      destroyers have just begun to design, they need to wait only after 2020, and then this is a bookmark.
    2. Crang
      Crang 20 January 2015 10: 43
      -5
      Quote: NEXUS
      and what about the destroyers we have? It seems like the information about the Leaders was ...

      Destroyers nafig are not needed. The Kasaton-class frigates will replace them quite well. Confused by another - the complete absence of the BOD construction program. How are we going to jam enemy lines? BOD are powerful ships. Those that we have now will sooner and later become obsolete and need to be changed for something. Instead of a ship of incomprehensible classification with an incomprehensible set of weapons called "destroyers", it is necessary to build new BODs.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 20 January 2015 11: 20
        +8
        Destroyers nafig are not needed. The Kasaton-class frigates will replace them quite well. Confused by another - the complete absence of the BOD construction program. How are we going to jam enemy lines? BOD are powerful ships. Those that we have now will sooner and later become obsolete and need to be changed for something. Instead of a ship of incomprehensible classification with an incomprehensible set of weapons called "destroyers", it is necessary to build new BODs.

        Here specifically for you. Take a look.
        A destroyer (abbreviated as "destroyer") is a high-speed combat ship of the ocean zone, designed to combat enemy submarine, surface, air and coastal forces. Under the Tsar, torpedoes were referred to as "self-propelled mines", hence the ship carrying them - destroyer, and since it is an integral part of the squadron, then - squadron... In other countries, most often, this class is referred to as "destroyer".
        It's just that the Soviet leadership took a slightly different path: the primary task of the destroyer was assigned to a separate class of ships - the BOD, and the destroyer was called a ship with "not ah" what capabilities to search for and destroy submarines, but with anti-ship missiles and air defense.
        And a ship of the type "destroyer" of the Navy, oh, how needed, and it should be just a wunderwolf, and not an 8 kiloton version of Kasatonov. IMHO, but at least 32 anti-ship missiles, plus the S-400 / S-500 air defense / missile defense system, a couple of art. guns, cruise strategists, anti-submarine missiles, a couple of turntables and a cruising range of 8000-1000 miles. I won't say anything about the power plant, but the displacement of 11-14 kilotons will probably be.
        hi
        1. Crang
          Crang 20 January 2015 11: 42
          -4
          Quote: Wiruz
          A destroyer (abbreviated as "destroyer") is a high-speed combat ship of the ocean zone, designed to combat enemy submarine, surface, air and coastal forces.

          Are you sho !? From the very name "destroyer" it is obvious that the main weapon of such a ship is self-propelled mines - torpedoes. Due to the peculiarities of torpedo weapons, namely, their relative short-range ability, for the successful use of torpedo weapons, such a ship should not only be fast, but also extremely small in size, maximally maneuverable. Accordingly, they cannot be "oceanic" either. Under the king it was so. Then the destroyers were really destroyers. And even then, successful attacks were possible only at night, or on heavily damaged large enemy warships. What's this now? The monster is 160-180m long, with a bunch of rocket and artillery weapons on board, with the same speed as everyone else. What the nafig destroyer is this?
          Quote: Wiruz
          During the reign of the Tsar, torpedoes were referred to as "self-propelled mines", hence the carrying ship was a destroyer, and since it was an integral part of the squadron, it was a squadron.

          No. The destroyer is an enlarged destroyer, capable act as part of a squadron. And not being its integral part. Tsarist destroyers had about 350 tons and really were destroyers.
          Quote: Wiruz
          In other countries, most often, this class is referred to as "destroyer".

          No. The Destroyer, or fighter, is a destroyer that is even larger in size and has more powerful artillery weapons to combat conventional destroyers. This is the same as "leader" or "mine cruiser", "rank II cruiser" according to the old classification.
          Quote: Wiruz
          And a ship of the type "destroyer" of the Navy, oh, how needed, and it should be just a wunderwolf, and not an 8 kiloton version of Kasatonov. IMHO, but at least 32 anti-ship missiles, plus the S-400 / S-500 air defense / missile defense system, a couple of art. guns, cruise strategists, anti-submarine missiles, a couple of turntables and a cruising range of 8000-1000 miles. I won't say anything about the power plant, but it will probably be 11-14 kilotons.

          This is not a respected destroyer. I described the signs of the destroyers. What you described is: a cruiser, a battleship, a large missile ship to choose from.
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 20 January 2015 12: 39
            +5
            Sorry, accidentally put you a minus, I wanted a plus.
            Now in fact. I understand that you do not like the very classification of a promising ship of the Russian Navy? Maybe then we will not call modern frigates frigates because of the absence of guns and sails on them? Check out the weapons of foreign destroyers, unrealized Soviet projects. And then in your opinion it turns out that the destroyer is a small anti-submarine ship.
            1. Crang
              Crang 20 January 2015 14: 01
              +1
              Quote: Wiruz
              Now in fact. I understand that you do not like the very classification of a promising ship of the Russian Navy? Maybe then we will not call modern frigates frigates because of the absence of guns and sails on them? Check out the weapons of foreign destroyers, unrealized Soviet projects. And then in your opinion it turns out that the destroyer is a small anti-submarine ship.

              Destroyers as such have long been gone. Destroyers transformed into torpedo boats and also sunk into oblivion. At the expense of frigates, everything is somewhat different. This classification is from ancient times, when the only naval weapon was artillery, and the only mover was sail. Accordingly, all the ships then actually differed and were classified purely by size and tonnage: corvette, frigate, etc. Now that maritime weapons systems have reached such a development that most ships have universal weapons on board, it makes sense to classify them in the same way as in the old days - simply by size. The revival of corvettes and frigates from here. Well, if we are talking about a specialized vessel, then it's just ships: MPK, BOD, MRK, BDK, etc. There is simply no place for the "destroyer" classification in the modern fleet. Well, there are no destroyers for a long time. Those ships that are traditionally still classified as destroyers - in fact, no destroyers are even close. I think you understand that. The cruiser can still be left.
              1. Wiruz
                Wiruz 20 January 2015 14: 58
                +2
                Those ships that are traditionally still classified as destroyers - in fact, no destroyers are even close. I think you understand that. The cruiser can still be left.

                Understand. But your phrase
                Destroyers nafig are not needed. The Kasaton-class frigates will replace them quite well. Confused by another - the complete absence of the BOD construction program
                Sorry, it smells nonsense. The fleet does not need BODs; corvettes and frigates can and will frighten submarines off our coast. However, you need a powerful multi-functional ship for operations in the ocean zone more powerful than 22350, and it doesn't matter what it is called (although I like the "destroyer").
                1. Crang
                  Crang 20 January 2015 15: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: Wiruz
                  The fleet does not need BODs; corvettes and frigates can and will frighten submarines off our coast.

                  They cannot. Off the coast, the IPC can do this. And the far zone of the BOD. BLARBs you know don't swim near our shores.
                  Quote: Wiruz
                  However, you need a powerful multi-functional ship for operations in the ocean zone more powerful than 22350

                  22350 this is the TFR of the far sea zone. And more powerful than it ... 1144.2 will do? 22350 is normal. It is 130 meters long (longer than "Aurora") and with seaworthiness, autonomy and even versatility, everything is in order. Around the world it is normal on it. For me, it's better to build 50 of these 22350s. How to overpower 10 22350s, use the rest of the funds on huge ships of unknown purpose and build 5 of them. Why? The core is modernized 1144. And the "wolf pack" - 22350.
                  1. Wiruz
                    Wiruz 20 January 2015 19: 06
                    0
                    They cannot. Off the coast, the IPC can do this. And the far zone of the BOD. BLARBs you know don't swim near our shores.

                    SSBNs do not swim near our shores, this is understandable, which can not be said about SSBNs.
                    The circumnavigation is normal on it

                    It has a cruising range of only 4000 miles. We are not NATO, we have no gas stations on every corner. A promising naval ship (I’ll call it that once you don’t like a "destroyer") needs twice the cruising range, at least I wanted to.
                    22350 this is the TFR of the far sea zone. And more powerful than him ...

                    It depends on what tasks it will be assigned to. They'll chase pirates — enough, to shoot down two or three planes — well, but if he has a meeting with a more or less serious group of enemy ships? By the way, it’s hard to talk about air defense 22350: some see 32 9M96D missiles on it, others 32 48N6DM. I want to rank myself second winked
                    1. Crang
                      Crang 20 January 2015 20: 22
                      +1
                      Quote: Wiruz
                      It has a range of just 4000 miles. We are not NATO, we do not have base stations on every corner.

                      But there are tankers.
                      Quote: Wiruz
                      It depends on what tasks it will be assigned to.

                      Any. Absolutely any. Dimensions and weapons 2235.0 will solve everything.
                      Quote: Wiruz
                      to shoot down two or three planes - completely,

                      Hmm ... Actually, the number of 2235.0 missiles can go up to 592 pieces. Of which 512 "Poliment-Redut" missiles and 64 "Broadsword" missiles. As an option, 512 small anti-aircraft missiles "Polyment-Redut" can be replaced with 128 medium anti-aircraft missiles with a firing range of 150 km or 32 large anti-aircraft missiles of this air defense system with a range of 250 km. There are not two or three planes here. Here you can easily mow the entire Nimitz air group.

                      But what if he faces a more or less serious grouping of enemy ships?

                      Yes, no question - it will do. You must understand - nothing happens for free. Well, you build this "big destroyer". But you can build two 2235.0s instead. What is better against a serious grouping of enemy ships? One large destroyer or two frigates 2235.0? I think the frigates. The latter have the optimal dimensions (130m and 4500t). And a wolf pack, an analogue of a ground tank armada, must be created from such ships: 2235.0 and 1135.6. And big ships ... Well, of course, they are needed in a certain amount - well, we have 1144 and 1164. But these monsters cannot be the basis of the striking force. It seems not so long ago already stepped on the dreadnought rake - why repeat. Impact force in the far operating zone - wolf pack 2235.0. In the near zone - MRK. They have always been to her. 1234.1 how many riveted.
              2. Dart2027
                Dart2027 20 January 2015 19: 32
                0
                It would be most reasonable to classify by displacement or hull length.
                What are now called destroyers are just ships designed for operations in the oceans. Frigates are ships for the maritime zone.
          2. just exp
            just exp 20 January 2015 14: 41
            -1
            and to hell with him a great speed? (by the way, both frigates and the future destroyer will be fast)
            that he must swim over the submarine in order to reset the GB?
            but I’m stupid, I thought that now they usually start PLUR.
      2. just exp
        just exp 20 January 2015 14: 38
        0
        Krang Soviet BODs were only called anti-submarine, because under the crunch everything was aimed at rockets and the fight against them, the fleet had to destroy the enemy SSBNs, so all the ships were anti-submarine, although in fact they were not.
        and modern ships already have anti-submarine equipment, and PLO and PLUR turntables and so on and so forth.
        What pure BOD can such that the same 22350 cannot?
        1. Crang
          Crang 20 January 2015 14: 52
          0
          Quote: just explo
          Krang Soviet BODs were only called anti-submarine, because under the crunch everything was aimed at missiles and the fight against them, the fleet had to destroy the enemy SSBNs,

          But was it wrong? Well done Nikita.
          Quote: just explo
          therefore all ships were anti-submarine

          No. Only IPC and BOD.
          Quote: just explo
          and modern ships already have anti-submarine equipment, and PLO and PLUR turntables and so on and so forth.

          Yeah. Just like destroyers pr.956. Everything seems to be there, but since it is frail. A little bit of everything, but overall unconvincing.
          Quote: just explo
          What pure BOD can such that the same 22350 cannot?

          The clean BOD has a powerful PLUR "Waterfall" installation with a nuclear warhead. Two quadruple torpedo tubes and two 10-barreled anti-submarine bombardments. Plus two anti-submarine helicopters. As anti-submarine - the armament of the BOD is extremely powerful and can destroy several submarines at all distances. And also in time to notice and repel their attack. The frigate 22350 of anti-submarine weapons has only 2x4 launchers of the PLUR of the relatively weak "Packet-NK" and one anti-submarine helicopter. Its PLO capabilities in comparison with the same BOD pr.1151.1 are several times less. Everything is universal, usually worse than specialized.
          1. Dog of war
            Dog of war 20 January 2015 20: 11
            +1
            They forgot about 16 UKSK launchers, which are optionally clogged with rocket torpedoes, + unknown launchers on the sides from UKSK, some argue that this is exactly the "bear", although it is very doubtful, but in many sources it is she who is indicated, acquaintances are silent, the cat wept at the very information about Gorshkov. And excuse me, but the BOD will not return, an erroneous decision, ships are now becoming much more universal and no one will revive the BOD, as a separate class of ships, it is costly and pointless, especially in the absence of the entire SKR + BOD + Destroyer system. And you are right in terms of universality, "an expert in everything, an expert in nothing", but on ships the displacement levels out this factor, and if you look at how they shoved something unpushed into a frigate (Gorshkov), it becomes clear what to give An 8-9 kiloton ship for submarine hunting is too wasteful. PS but about a couple of submarines as victims of the BOD, they would be ashamed to speak, as far as I know, you are quite a serious and adequate person for yourself, but write this. The BOD will never notice the SP before the SP notices it.
          2. just exp
            just exp 20 January 2015 21: 17
            0
            actually there’s a bear and the caliber has missiles with PLUR.
          3. bpk572
            bpk572 21 January 2015 19: 34
            0
            Plus two GB with SBCH for helicopter and towed GAS
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      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 20 January 2015 15: 25
        +1
        Quote: Krang
        Confuses another - the complete absence in the construction program of the BOD. And how will we suppress enemy eyeliners?

        Ahem ... are FRs not the heirs of the BOD?

        Those Admirals 1135.6 are direct heirs of Project 1135, which was originally a BOD.
        The ave. 22350 with anti-submarine capabilities is also not so bad.
        1. Crang
          Crang 20 January 2015 20: 11
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Ahem ... are FRs not the heirs of the BOD?

          No. Frigates are TFR of the far sea zone. And BOD is BOD.
      4. Gans1234
        Gans1234 20 January 2015 22: 15
        0
        BOD - this is the destroyers. Only sharpened for the fight against submarines.
        BOD will no longer be in our fleet. Soviet still 10 years swim, then write off.
        In the future, only universal destroyers will be built.
        What would be the sense of the BOD, they need to build a dozen 2-3 to build, and it is too fat for us to have so many anti-submarine destroyers. Only universal ones will be built. And you can forget about the term BOD for new ships.
        But the landing craft - a headache. They are not in fact. Projector 11711 Ivan Gren full of garbage. In fact, it’s not even a BDK, but a KFOR (medium, if not small, because it contains the whole company) But this class of ships is physically outdated, UDCs are needed, and they will not be built at least until 25 of the year
    3. Gans1234
      Gans1234 20 January 2015 22: 10
      0
      By 2025 the head will be - this is an optimistic forecast
  10. ZAM
    ZAM 20 January 2015 09: 50
    +4
    After decades of the collapse of the shipbuilding industry and the mediocre destruction of the existing Navy, positive news began to appear ... Though not as significant as we would like ... But damn, it's still nice to read ...
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 23 January 2015 19: 47
      0
      From the blue stream .. the river begins)))
  11. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 20 January 2015 09: 59
    +2
    When the "Ivan Gren" is finally handed over, you can arrange folk festivities about this) The ship is not very big in principle, but it has been tormented for so long. It's like we have in St. Petersburg with a site on the Obvodny Canal under the bridges. It is one and a half km long and for almost 10 years they could not do and open it - this is in the center of the city!
    According to "Yuri Ivanov," I want to note that they painted a completely different look already. Recently, an article here was about him, in the comments they were very skeptical about his appearance - like where did you get this stuff from)
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 20 January 2015 11: 46
      +1
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      When "Ivan Gren" is finally handed over, you can arrange folk festivities on this occasion

      In the case of him, the word when, can be changed to if. :(.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 20 January 2015 15: 29
      +1
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      When the "Ivan Gren" is finally handed over, you can arrange folk festivities about this) The ship is not very big in principle, but it has been tormented for so long. It's like we have in St. Petersburg with a site on the Obvodny Canal under the bridges. It is one and a half km long and for almost 10 years they could not do and open it - this is in the center of the city!

      Heh heh heh ... remember the restoration of the Savior on Blood. A whole generation grew up, graduated from high school, college and went to work, seeing this cathedral in the woods.
      So the builders of Gren have something to look up to. laughing
  12. Crang
    Crang 20 January 2015 10: 22
    0
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    When the "Ivan Gren" is finally handed over, you can arrange folk festivities about this) The ship is not very big in principle, but it has been tortured for so long.

    Yes. A ship is good in itself. In general, our naval base makes up a substantial percentage of naval personnel. I think that all BDKs need to be modernized and equipped with shock missile weapons. Dimensions and displacement allow. And they will not have to be protected.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 20 January 2015 15: 32
      +4
      Quote: Krang
      I think that all BDKs need to be modernized and equipped with shock missile weapons. Dimensions and displacement allow. And they will not have to be protected.

      Yeah ... throw the nafig assault - and equip them with strike weapons. laughing

      Oh yes time no need to guard - then you still need to add SAM, PLUR, ZAK, TA, radar, GAS, communications, electronic warfare ... oh, why did he drown?
      1. Gans1234
        Gans1234 20 January 2015 22: 20
        0
        All BDK will be written off, and nefiga fools with scrap metal.
        Most 30-40 years with not the best service over the years.
        It is necessary to rivet the new Stakhanov pace, or the landing will be on the beach sunbathing for a very long time.
        As for the alteration of the BDK - utter stupidity
    2. Dog of war
      Dog of war 20 January 2015 20: 14
      0
      Dear Krang, like a serious person, but in this thread for the second time write such garbage. Apparently the Navy is not your element.
  13. NEXUS
    NEXUS 20 January 2015 10: 50
    0
    Quote: Krang
    Nafig destroyers are not needed.

    I asked about the Leader project destroyers. And the frigate will not replace a full-fledged destroyer, especially a destroyer with a nuclear power plant.
    1. Dog of war
      Dog of war 20 January 2015 20: 17
      0
      While the destroyers are deaf, the 22350M project with increased displacement and, accordingly, the armament composition is more feasible, but it is not worth waiting for it in the near term.
  14. kaplei
    kaplei 20 January 2015 11: 25
    0
    Very good news! smile Compared to what was going on in our fleets in the 90s sad With the laying of new nuclear submarines, of course, they messed up, BUT there are positive dynamics
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 20 January 2015 12: 30
      +1
      Of course, with the laying of new nuclear submarines

      Excuse me, where did you go?
  15. Sailor
    Sailor 20 January 2015 11: 59
    +2
    It is very pleasant to read that my native Black Sea Fleet will receive ships and boats, but nothing is said about the Pacific Fleet, and in the current realities I would call it the most important.
    1. Steel loli
      Steel loli 20 January 2015 12: 53
      +3
      At the Pacific Fleet the same situation as with "Ivan Gren". At the Amur shipyard, the first corvette for the Pacific Fleet has been tortured and more expensive for 10 years. Although in 10 years and the amount of the cost of this corvette it was already possible to build a new shipyard and a new corvette on it. Cut such a cut.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 20 January 2015 15: 33
      0
      Quote: Sailor
      It is very nice to read that my native Black Sea Fleet will receive ships and boats, but nothing is said about the Pacific Fleet

      The Pacific Fleet will receive the Borei. And then there are still "BDR without the letter M" go.
  16. fomkin
    fomkin 20 January 2015 13: 21
    0
    All this is good and even very, but inappropriately, an article in "VO" surfaced in my memory, where it was stated that in 14g. The navy will receive up to 150 warships. Those who do not believe can find it in the archive.
  17. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 20 January 2015 13: 28
    0
    Last November, sea trials of the frigate Admiral of the Fleet of Kasatonov of the 22350 project began.
    It's charming, how can you start sea trials in November of a ship launched on December 12, on a slipway or something? In November, namely on November 9, the frigate "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" entered the running gear, which is expected to be delivered to the fleet in November 2015.
    The lead frigate of Project 22350 "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" will enter the combat composition of the fleet in November 2015 after the completion of the tests, said the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Viktor Chirkov.

    http://flot.com/2015/182246/

    And taking into account the fact that the turbine was removed from Kasatonov to replace the damaged one at Gorshkov, and the turbines are made in Ukraine, this year we will not see Kasatonov in service.

    The frigate Admiral of the Fleet Kasatonov, located at the wall of the Severnaya Verf Shipbuilding Plant OJSC, is the second ship of Project 22350. St. Petersburg, January 2015
    The damaged engine on the newest frigate of Project 22350 "Admiral Gorshkov" was replaced with a similar one from the ship of the same type "Admiral of the Fleet Kasatonov", which is also being built at "Severnaya Verf".

    http://flotprom.ru/2015/181773/

    The construction of frigates of the 11356P / M project is ongoing.

    There are no questions with the "Grigorovich", it is already on mooring trials, it will be on the road. In the spring-summer it is expected at the Black Sea Fleet:
    The submarine "Novorossiysk" and the patrol frigate "Admiral Grigorovich" will arrive at the Black Sea Fleet in May-June 2015. The head of the information support department of the press service of the Southern Military District for the Black Sea region told RG about this.

    http://www.rg.ru/2014/12/01/reg-kfo/submarine.html


    Perhaps by the end of the year the Essen, launched on November 7, will be delivered. "Makarov" is unlikely. Most likely, it will descend in late spring / early summer (but with a very good degree of readiness).

    And then problems with the Nikolaev engines, of which there are only 3 pieces, will begin.
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 20 January 2015 13: 50
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      Until the end of the year, the Black Sea Fleet will receive two new submarines of the 636.3 Varshavyanka project. Two submarines of this type ("Novorossiysk" and "Rostov-on-Don") have already been transferred to the fleet and entered into its combat strength. The third submarine of the project, "Stary Oskol", is preparing for sea trials, the fourth, "Krasnodar", is being completed. By the autumn of 2015, both submarines of the 636.3 project must be handed over to the fleet.

      Well, everything seems to be pah-pah ...
      B-262 "Stary Oskol" is planned to be delivered in June.
      The third and fourth diesel-electric submarines for the Black Sea Fleet - Stary Oskol and Krasnodar - will be handed over to the military in June and November, respectively, an informed source in the Russian defense industry told TASS.

      http://www.rg.ru/2015/01/13/vmf-anons.html

      The fourth boat of the B-265 Krasnodar project is planned to be launched in April and transferred to the fleet in November:
      "The launching of the Krasnodar submarine is planned for April," a source in the shipbuilding industry told RIA Novosti. He also noted that "the transfer of the third submarine Stary Oskol to the Russian Navy is scheduled for June."

      http://flotprom.ru/2015/182298/

      True, there are vague rumors about problems with the first submarine of the project B-261 "Novorossiysk", which is undergoing deep-sea tests in the North. Until now, for example, nothing has been heard about the missile firing of "Caliber" from it (ice interferes?). Even before NG, there was a rumor that something was really serious there and the boat would return to AB in the spring, and would not go straight to the Black Sea Fleet - but so far there is no confirmation of this and let's hope that these are just rumors ...
      The 2015 year is scheduled for delivery of two small missile ships of the project 21631 "Buyan-M". Three such ships last year were transferred to the Caspian Flotilla. This year, the first two "Buyana-M" are supposed to be transferred to the Black Sea Fleet. In total, Black Sea sailors will receive six small rocket ships of a new type.

      Well, there are no questions here, Zelenodol residents are great: "Rooks" and "Buyany-M" are baked like pies. In addition, it is possible to transfer part of the orders to the Crimea, especially since the Zelenodolsk shipyard bought the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch. But even here the deadline may be missed, as Zelenodolsk is waiting for an order for 3 export RTOs, project 21632 "Tornado" for the Kazakh Navy.
      http://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/118364/

      Plus, diesel engines of the German company MTU were installed on MRK ave. 21631, which, due to sanctions, suspended their deliveries to Russia.
      http://flotprom.ru/2014/178772/

      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 20 January 2015 15: 49
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        Quote: Novel 1977
        Well, there are no questions here, Zelenodol residents are great: "Rooks" and "Buyany-M" are baked like pies.

        There may also be problems - for a reason similar to the FR.
        For the power plant on the Buyans is MTU, and they also came under sanctions.
    2. Eggor
      Eggor 20 January 2015 13: 52
      +2
      Quote: Novel 1977
      And further problems with the Nikolaev engines will begin

    3. Anton Gavrilov
      Anton Gavrilov 20 January 2015 16: 29
      +3
      At the expense of the turbines, there are a bunch of ways to "wriggle out" of the current situation. In the first, there were rumors that our people tried to negotiate with the Ukrainians about smuggling some of the goods, and secondly, you can take spare parts for turbines from the Indians.

      At the expense of diesels, for 21631 there are so far, and for now there are enough of them. By my information, by the way, the launch of the 4 and 5 buoys-M is pre-scheduled for April and May this year, respectively. time should be enough to make appropriate changes to subsequent ships.
      1. Dog of war
        Dog of war 20 January 2015 20: 20
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        While the turbines are deaf, at least our double basses are silent, there is nothing that no one at least has seen the turbine and no one has ordered their transportation yet, maybe to the north, though we hear something interesting, but our counter north of Krasnodon is not doing anything.
  18. Moore
    Moore 20 January 2015 13: 45
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    Quote: Krang
    I think that all BDKs need to be modernized and equipped with shock missile weapons. Dimensions and displacement allow. And they will not have to be protected.

    Can you share your thoughts on why you plan to install "strike missile weapons" on the same 775s? Is there a lot of free space? And the radar for shooting? And the air defense system with radar for them?
    And the Americans seem to be really stupid. Their aircraft carriers are still operating without "strike missile weapons." And without long-range air defense systems with personal belongings. And they chase, stupid, a whole warrant for protection instead of using the permissible "dimensions and displacement."
    1. Crang
      Crang 20 January 2015 14: 09
      -1
      Quote: Moore
      And the Americans seem to be really stupid. Their aircraft carriers still operate without "strike missile weapons".

      Yes, stupid. Our strike aircraft carriers, even smaller displacement have shock missile weapons and therefore are considered the most powerful surface ships in the world.
      Quote: Moore
      Can you share your thoughts on why you plan to install "strike missile weapons" on the same 775s? Is there a lot of free space? And the radar for shooting? And the air defense system with radar for them?

      The 775, like the 775-M, are of sufficient size and area. I'm not suggesting to put monsters like "Volcanoes" or "Granites" on them. No. And PU PKR / OTR "Onyx" / "Caliber" have very modest dimensions and are mounted on the upper deck. It was with these missiles that the "stupid" Russians planned to equip the Sevastopol and Vladivostok DVKDs. It is these missiles that are the main armament of the Buyan-M small MRKs. Several Polyment-Redut missiles will fit in the same way. The radar is universal. They already have it. For shooting from 76mm UAU and 30mm ZAK.
      Quote: Moore
      And they chase, stupid, a whole warrant for protection instead of using the permissible "dimensions and displacement."

      Yeah. To the blunt cutters.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 20 January 2015 16: 19
        +2
        Quote: Krang
        Yes, stupid. Our strike aircraft carriers, even of smaller displacement, have strike rocket weapons and are therefore considered the most powerful surface ships in the world.

        Who are considered? And why is there no more CD on both the "pot" and the "kuz"?
        And, by the way, why does our "Kuzya" carry fewer aircraft than the smaller "Clemenceau"?
        Quote: Krang
        And PU PKR / OTR "Onyx" / "Caliber" have very modest dimensions and are mounted on the upper deck. It was with these missiles that the "stupid" Russians planned to equip the Sevastopol and Vladivostok DVKDs. It is these missiles that are the main armament of small MRK of the Buyan-M type. Several Polyment-Redut missiles will fit in the same way. The radar is universal. They already have it. For shooting from 76mm UAU and 30mm ZAK.

        Gorgeous. That is, you propose to use a box full of people as a strike ship. And put on it "modest" "calibers" 6 m long and weighing about 2 tons each. Moreover, PU for 400-kilogram missiles with a length of about 5 m.

        Tell me, how will this stuffed powder keg fulfill its main task - to land troops? After all, an over-horizon landing by our BDK does not shine - only landfall under enemy fire, only hardcore.

        By the way, only a couple of 775s have ZAK.
        1. Aladin
          Aladin 20 January 2015 18: 38
          +2
          Zenit (along) will enter the BDK well - everyone will be afraid. And to launch having sunk the stern - like Sea Launch! belay
        2. Crang
          Crang 20 January 2015 20: 04
          -1
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Who are considered?

          To all.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          And why is there no more CD on both the "pot" and the "kuz"?

          Broken PU boobs. They did not repair.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          And, by the way, why does our "Kuzya" carry fewer aircraft than the smaller "Clemenceau"?

          Because our Su-33 is the size of a 2MV strategic bomber.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Gorgeous. That is, you suggest using a box full of people as a strike ship.

          I do not propose. I propose to give people the opportunity to stand up for themselves in a box full of people.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          And put on it "modest" "calibers" 6 m long and weighing about 2 tons each. Moreover, PU for 400-kilogram missiles with a length of about 5 m.

          Yes. What is heavy or what? Or will they take up a lot of space? For a ship the size of an armadillo the beginning of the 20th century, capable of carrying 10 main battle tanks of 60 tons each, or 500 tons of other weapons.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Tell me, how will this stuffed powder keg fulfill its main task - to land troops? After all, an over-horizon landing by our BDK does not shine - only landfall under enemy fire, only hardcore.

          And not how. He will not be able to do this even in its present form. Find one or two T-55 tanks on the shore of the enemy and tryndets our BDK. They will wait in ambush until they come closer to the shore and shoot them like in a shooting range. It is clear now what was the advantage of the Sevastopol and Vladivostok DVDKDs?
          Quote: Alexey RA
          By the way, only a couple of 775s have ZAK.

          All BDK project 755-M. Three ships.
          1. gallville
            gallville 21 January 2015 14: 43
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            Quote: Krang
            Because our Su-33 is the size of a 2MV strategic bomber.

            I agree. Therefore, they ordered the Mig-29.
            Quote: Krang
            And no how. He in the present form will not be able to do this. Find one or two T-55 tanks and our BDK Trindets near the enemy on the shore. They will wait in ambush until they come closer to the shore and shoot like in a shooting gallery.

            Yes, no "tryndetsa". The landing zone must be prepared.
            Air reconnaissance. Air training. Art preparation.
            Next, reconnaissance landed on boats or helicopters (say with Kuzi), whichever is.
            And only then the BDK will be suitable. And even if the evil t-55s start shooting from an ambush wassat BDKs can fire a volley of A-215 - 320 missiles per 1 BDK. And that's not counting the air escort.
            Quote: Krang
            It is clear now what was the advantage of the Sevastopol and Vladivostok DVDKDs?

            So the DKVD is landing troops with boats, i.e. upon landing, the "evil" T-55s will again shoot like in a shooting range. It is doubtful that the 280 ton dugong will be difficult to miss. Although 4 thousand tons. BDK target is still the same here I agree.
      2. gallville
        gallville 21 January 2015 14: 32
        +1
        Quote: Krang
        Our strike aircraft carriers, even of smaller displacement, have strike rocket weapons and are therefore considered the most powerful surface ships in the world.

        And for some reason, during modernization both for India and for itself, it is planned to dismantle this very "shock" weapon. It is better to accommodate more than 8-16 aircrafts for a couple of aircraft. A pair of aircrafts will be able to carry both the PKR and fight back in the air.
        Quote: Krang
        Several Polyment-Redut missiles will fit in the same way.

        A few is how much? A few 3-4? So on frigates 22350 they are 4. Why make a frigate from the BDK?
        Of course, I support the replacement of the AK-630 with a Broadsword or Shell when it is finished. That polymer is superfluous.
        Quote: Krang
        And PU PKR / OTR "Onyx" / "Caliber" have very modest dimensions and are mounted on the upper deck. It was with these missiles that the "stupid" Russians planned to equip the Sevastopol and Vladivostok DVKDs.

        Proof in the studio. As far as I know, it was planned to place 2 * Bending and 2 * AK-630 (again, why not in the same number of broadswords).
        According to the French company, Vladivostok will be equipped with 30-millimeter AK-630 artillery guns and Gibka anti-aircraft missile systems.

        http://vpk.name/news/98616_dvkd_vladivostok_osnastyat_chetyirmya_desantnyimi_kat
        erami.html # m205271
        Here is my proof.
  19. Tektor
    Tektor 20 January 2015 15: 09
    -1
    Would Buyanchik-M look good on Lake Nicaragua?
  20. smoke break
    smoke break 20 January 2015 15: 31
    +4
    What strike weapon on the BDK ?! Have you ever climbed out of tanks? Do not think in the navy theme, just keep silent, you will seem smarter ...
    1. Crang
      Crang 20 January 2015 15: 38
      -1
      Quote: smoke break
      What strike weapon on the BDK ?!

      Several PU PKR / OTR "Caliber". What they wanted to put on the UDC "Sevastopol".
      Quote: smoke break
      Have you ever climbed out of tanks?

      Ага.
      Quote: smoke break
      Do not think in the navy theme, just keep silent, you will seem smarter ...

      I think more than yours. And I do not suffer from complexes about the "smart look".
  21. Lukov
    Lukov 20 January 2015 15: 59
    +1
    Quote: just EXPL
    nothing pleases, as the liberals will now again explain to us that Putin has ruined the shipbuilding industry.
    and if you cite this article as an argument against them, they will say that again the damned Putin shoves people instead of oil guns.


    Not so. They screech like tugs instead of aircraft carriers and star cruisers.
  22. okroshka79
    okroshka79 20 January 2015 17: 58
    +2
    Dear Crang! But what about the metacentric height, draft and landing of the ship? After all, for PU with Calibers and Onyxes and Polyments-Redoubts with their weights on the upper deck, additional volumes and weights will "creep" for control devices, GAGs, power supply systems, security of sharing weapons and other necessary things. In addition, the Vympel and Rubka radars will certainly not provide Polyment-Redut with the necessary radar characteristics. And for shock complexes, both their own control center facilities and the reception of information from external ones are needed. Where to place the tanks with the marines?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 20 January 2015 18: 33
      +2
      He-he-he ... I immediately recall Kuzin's article on Atlanta 1164 - what the "small improvements" of weapons lead to:
      Thus, the dimensions of the missiles again directly "crawled out" through the ship. “Armed men” did not understand this at all: “Just think, they added“ just something ”(!) Less than a meter of length and less than a ton (!) Of weight” (meaning a new rocket). Looking ahead, we note that these “only something” cost the ship an extra 13 m of length, 2,3 m of width and 2700 of displacement.
    2. Crang
      Crang 20 January 2015 20: 47
      -1
      Quote: okroshka79
      Where to place tanks with marine corps?

      One tank less.
  23. xomaNN
    xomaNN 20 January 2015 18: 52
    0
    The pace is not bad at the ship industry. The timing of the next year 2016/1135 of the Kaliningrad TFR is doubtful. A Ukrainian was put there. GTU (JSC "Zorya-Mashproekt"). And now we urgently need to look for a replacement. GTU is a delicate and complex thing, it requires experienced personnel.
  24. forest park 86
    forest park 86 20 January 2015 20: 10
    0
    are we really doing something ourselves? This makes me happy!!! It’s a pity Mistral couldn’t get out, well, it’s not evening yet.
  25. NikWik
    NikWik 20 January 2015 21: 29
    +4
    "Lucky" to serve in the 90s, when almost new ships were sent to the needles. Including my beauty. So good luck guys, and 7 feet. Maybe the time will return when we will chase amers across all oceans.
  26. Manul
    Manul 20 January 2015 23: 11
    0
    And I think that if we still have the doctrine of the defense, we need floating radars with a multi-level air defense system. A sort of monster with Voronezh and the Container in the marine version (antennas can be floating, retractable during a storm), and the S-400 and S-500, for solving strategic tasks. Naturally, the ship’s safety will be provided by short- and medium-range air defense systems. It seems to me that this will be a very popular technique for guarding our borders.
  27. Richard. 1980
    Richard. 1980 20 January 2015 23: 28
    0
    wonderful submarines! It would be advisable to quickly see in the ranks of the submarine with the installation of the diesel engine in the underwater position.
  28. gallville
    gallville 21 January 2015 14: 53
    0
    In November last year, sea trials of the Admiral of the Kasaton fleet of the 22350 project began. A little later another ship of this project, the Admiral Golovko, was launched. If all work goes according to schedule and does not encounter any difficulties, then already this year both frigates can be transferred to the fleet. It is worth noting that the surrender of "Admiral Golovko" can only take place next year, because the ship is not yet ready for the start of the test.

    These three need to be completed and the project modernized.
    Make a displacement of up to 6-8 thousand tons. Increase to 32 units. PCR and 64 cells of the polymer. And already in this form, transfer 6-8 units. on the SF and Pacific Fleet. But send those 3 to the BF.
    submarines of project 636.3 Varshavyanka.

    The vacant places from the Vietnam order at the shipyard should not be taken by export, but by construction for this project for the Baltic Fleet.
  29. bpk572
    bpk572 21 January 2015 19: 29
    0
    And where is the author of this opus hiding?

    1) there was a typo in the article: instead of "Kasatons" and "Golovko", they meant "Gorshkov" and "Kasatonov"

    2) "Zeya", what's with it?
  30. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 21 January 2015 23: 23
    0
    Nevertheless, the best solution for the Black Sea Fleet (and not only) will be the reunification of Novorossia - from Tiraspol to Kharkov, I understand what to desire, it is not always to have, but I want to believe.
  31. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 22 January 2015 15: 32
    0
    Sorted out with the "Polyment" and gun mount, and it went. Good news for 22350 and 11356M
  32. Every
    Every 23 January 2015 02: 52
    +1
    Thank God, they began to build new ships, I hope this is a long-term trend, and not a one-time impulse, and so over the many years of inactivity, they lost all experience. The ships of project 22350 may not be bad, but they are clearly not enough for a presence in the ocean. Larger ships are already needed here. And, as it was correctly noted above, Russia does not have bases at every corner, and ships need appropriate ones, i.e. with long autonomy, and carry a large set of weapons, both shock and defensive, and so far only a cruiser meet these requirements. Of course, monsters like "Eagles" are too much (in general, in my opinion, "Peter" and "Nakhimov" are more like image ships, a sort of royal cruisers). But to develop the concept of Atlanteans (1164) is very much even necessary. Slightly more BOD, or rather they were built on the basis of BOD, i.e. the base is already ready, but at the same time it does not have to be in the group, such a cruiser can act alone, or be the flagship of the group. And accordingly, to destroy not only submarines, enemy aircraft, but also large ships, which the same BOD simply cannot cope with. Another thing is that the experience of designing and building such ships is practically lost.
  33. marder4
    marder4 23 January 2015 09: 57
    0
    good replenishment for one year